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X8 chip upgrade?

Do you think motorola will upgrade the present X8 chip with 2 krait 300 cores to a new X8 chip with krait 400 cores? Snapdragon 800 already has a low power always listening core in it right? wonder whats in store for summer

eeshlikhith said:
Do you think motorola will upgrade the present X8 chip with 2 krait 300 cores to a new X8 chip with krait 400 cores? Snapdragon 800 already has a low power always listening core in it right? wonder whats in store for summer
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Who knows, but we should definitely see the core upgrade.
Moto X successor is still slated for late summer release. So it could be as late as August. By that time we will have Snapdragon 610 and 615 in market and those make perfect sense for new Moto X. Still not the high end for that time, but plenty of oomph while consuming less power and significant upgrade over current MSM8960DT.

Haven't heard of the 610 and 615. Thanks

The new Moto X should improve very nicely over the current.

I'm curious to see what new clever way Motorola will use the new tech.
I'm always for 'smarter' technology over more 'powerful' technology

roweboat56 said:
I'm curious to see what new clever way Motorola will use the new tech.
I'm always for 'smarter' technology over more 'powerful' technology
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I remember Dennis Woodside saying the next generation Touchless control wont require you to speak the command phrase first.

Current phrase is too long. With the android wear, we will be saying "OK Google" all the time. Then to say "OK Google now" for phone will be little odd. They can simply go for "Moto" or " Hey Moto". No phrase is not ideal. You don't want your phone to trigger touches control all the time.
From my Moto X, in your face!

If they keep with the theme of last year the x8 will be quietly upgraded and they will add new one useful features. Maybe slightly faster but still dual core. I would love for some upgrades on the rest of the phone. 1080p but still 4.7" display, better camera, wireless charging, more customizations?
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Better yet, a personalized command of your choice

For android wear you don't always have to say okay google now. In the video the guy in the train simply says "Reply" which is cool. I'd love to see that translated to the X. I wish Motorola has an X series which would keep the 4.7 size and some other series for other sizes all while maintaining the same specs in all series except the G.

The problem with a 1080p screen is eats more battery without much if any real increase in picture screen is to small.

T-Keith said:
If they keep with the theme of last year the x8 will be quietly upgraded and they will add new one useful features. Maybe slightly faster but still dual core. I would love for some upgrades on the rest of the phone. 1080p but still 4.7" display, better camera, wireless charging, more customizations?
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The problem with a 1080p screen is eats more battery without much if any real increase in picture screen is to small.
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while 1080p does eat some battery up, there have now been advancements made in the newer 801 chipsets in regards to battery life. it would be great if MotoX 2 could get a dualcore variant of that, while also beefing the battery up to maybe 2600maH while retaining the same 4.7" screen. i'd also like to see a better camera for low light shots. if these were the upgrades, while also adding more useful features to the phone, i'd be sold day1.
i feel fairly confident that the screen size of the device will stay small. to most, that's one of the selling points of the MotoX.

I would also like an improved battery. Maybe next phone for me will be back to the Maxx. My fiancee is using my old RAZR maxx and I miss the crazy battery life she gets. The new maxx was just priced out of my reach so hopefully moto x 2 can bridge nicely.
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I am not really interested in tegra stuff but the 64bit dual core Denver might be a beast. I really hope more OEM's pull their heads out of their asses and go back to beefier dual cores rather than forcing quad on us. Heck, there's very few games that take full advantage of quad and I bet it's mostly tegea optimized games. Other benefits of going back to dual core besides pure power draw of cores themselves are using the spacing for bigger channels, faster ram, more ultra low voltage co processors, or dsp's/multi dsp's which ios and android still aren't taking full advantage of. What would be really awesome is if motorola comes out with something to compete with note3. Large screen with stylus, swappable battery, 64bit dual core, Kepler k1 or adreno 420, micro SD, heck two micro SD slots while I am dreaming, wireless charging, software nav buttons and Moto's legendary reception.
sent from my sm-9005.

I don't care what processors they use, like the Nexus devices need to do, put a BIGGER battery.
but I'm willing to bet some kind of S800 dual core variant.

I'm guessing it'll be a 5 inch FHD screen, quad core, and improved camera. The Moto X was crucified for its mid-range specs, despite calling itself a flagship phone, thus it won't be able to withstand another such release.
While many of the thoughts in this thread are correct, you have to keep in mind that the general consumer is a slave to the specs marketing game and that Motorola is struggling just to survive.

I'm not sure if I agree with that. The average techy may be obsessed with specs, but the average consumer probably buys based on price and marketing. They want a phone from a name they trust and something they can relate to. Samsung has this down. Motorola did step up their marketing, but they missed the mark. They should have played up their history.
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T-Keith said:
I'm not sure if I agree with that. The average techy may be obsessed with specs, but the average consumer probably buys based on price and marketing. They want a phone from a name they trust and something they can relate to. Samsung has this down. Motorola did step up their marketing, but they missed the mark. They should have played up their history.
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In the world of android, you need specs and/ price on your site to effectively market the phone.
If your phone is proceed like a high end phone, it better have high end specifications. Otherwise no matter how cool the phone is, how well it performs, it is difficult to market it.
See how many dumb @$$ reviews are there on popular shopping portals complaining about dual core CPU of Moto X.
Moto G is on the other hand received overwhelmingly positive reviews on same sites due to it's price and praises for its quad core CPU.
Hell there are multiple people complaining about moto x not being value for money when compared to "Quad core" Moto G..
Lot of techies who understood the potential of Moto X got it. Not masses.
When it comes to android, sadly average consumer does care about the specs.
Bit that mentality does mean that moto x owners have rather exclusive phone
From my Moto X, in your face!

I don't know. Most non-techy people I talk to never mention specs. They just want a "deal" on the newest Samsung phones. Because they don't want an apple phone and Samsung has marketed themselves as the anti-iphone. Just like the original Droid which had much success.
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Funkym0nkey said:
In the world of android, you need specs and/ price on your site to effectively market the phone.
If your phone is proceed like a high end phone, it better have high end specifications. Otherwise no matter how cool the phone is, how well it performs, it is difficult to market it.
See how many dumb @$$ reviews are there on popular shopping portals complaining about dual core CPU of Moto X.
Moto G is on the other hand received overwhelmingly positive reviews on same sites due to it's price and praises for its quad core CPU.
Hell there are multiple people complaining about moto x not being value for money when compared to "Quad core" Moto G..
Lot of techies who understood the potential of Moto X got it. Not masses.
When it comes to android, sadly average consumer does care about the specs.
Bit that mentality does mean that moto x owners have rather exclusive phone
From my Moto X, in your face!
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I love the X as I do my favorite shaving razor the Bic Metal. These are still available in Europe & on Amazon. They lossed market share for the same reason-humble appearance.

[Q] Is the nexus 6 amazing/worth it? I'm close to buying one..

Okay well. Right now i have the oneplus one. Its a great phone and i like it and all... But no android l support yet (no cm12s), my touch screen is going bad, support is eh... and im just wanting to buy something that has been improved over many years... And is reliable. opo is kinda new.. with a single device.
So i thought of the nexus 6. It looks and feels amazing (as i have held/saw one) scores really nice on benchmarks despite the quad hd display.
My opo currently has the bamboo back (swap cover) and its in perfect condition, should be worth a good amount, and i get paid soon. So now i am tempted to buy the nexus 6.
Afew questions.
Firstly, I am all about having fast/latest hardware, so here is where my concern comes in. Is this nexus 6 a first of a soon soc snapdragon 805? Because i remember when the nexus 5 was out, half a year later there was a much better soc snapdragon 801. I know the nexus 6 will be fast, but i am just thinking ahead..
Next, is $700+ (as i would get the 64gb one) worth it?.. Its a HUGE jump from the previous $400 32gb nexus 5.. I thought nexus devices were always going to be cheap.. I mean, a bigger screen, a better build quality and snapdragon 805.. that's about all.
Middle, Will it be worth alot by next year when the next nexus arrives? (for resale purposes)
And lastly, should i just go for the nexus 6? And stay in the nexus line.. Or wait for a snapdragon 810 model phone to release.. As 64bit is arriving this year.
PS: Is metro PCS supported?
That's about all i am wondering..
Thanks for anyone that can help me.

Snapdragon 810 is just around the corner, the LG G Flex 2 will be using SD 810. You can have the best hardware possible but if the software is not optimized for it then that hardware is not fully utilized to its fullest potential. In my opinion, get a phone with good development support from the community, not a phone because it has better specifications.
The question of the N6 being "worth it" is subjective and no one can answer that but yourself. You posting a thread in here will attract people say "yeah its worth it, get it ASAP" because you're in Nexus territory but if you're in the OPO territory, they would say no because OPO has a better value. Both phones have its pros and cons, the decision of whether the "N6 is worth it" is not as black and white.
Will it be worth a lot? I don't predict the future, but it most likely will retain a large % of its value. Nexus 5 is still a popular phone and people are still buying them.
Should you go for the N6? I already answered this. I personally was using the OPO and switched to a N6, the OPO community is great but it was no where as good as the Nexus line of devices. Snapdragon 810, don't really care about it unless a Nexus has its name to it.
If development is something you care about when it comes to a phone, a Nexus won't disappoint.
MetroPCS... do the research on your own and compare bands.

zephiK said:
Snapdragon 810 is just around the corner, the LG G Flex 2 will be using SD 810. You can have the best hardware possible but if the software is not optimized for it then that hardware is not fully utilized to its fullest potential. In my opinion, get a phone with good development support from the community, not a phone because it has better specifications.
The question of the N6 being "worth it" is subjective and no one can answer that but yourself. You posting a thread in here will attract people say "yeah its worth it, get it ASAP" because you're in Nexus territory but if you're in the OPO territory, they would say no because OPO has a better value. Both phones have its pros and cons, the decision of whether the "N6 is worth it" is not as black and white.
Will it be worth a lot? I don't predict the future, but it most likely will retain a large % of its value. Nexus 5 is still a popular phone and people are still buying them.
Should you go for the N6? I already answered this. I personally was using the OPO and switched to a N6, the OPO community is great but it was no where as good as the Nexus line of devices. Snapdragon 810, don't really care about it unless a Nexus has its name to it.
If development is something you care about when it comes to a phone, a Nexus won't disappoint.
MetroPCS... do the research on your own and compare bands.
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You sir should write books thanks!

TeChNoC4AzY said:
You sir should write books thanks!
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Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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zephiK said:
Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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Alright! Thanks again

If you can wait for a device that you like (form factor, screen, brand) that has the 810 processor in it, I would wait for that. But if you want a phone this second then the Nexus 6 is a decent choice. With that being said you have a few things to consider.
1)Curved back - For some people this is a deal breaker. Don't ask me why it just is.
2)Large size- At a whopping 5.96" it is large in the average person's hand. I have large hands so this was actually fine for me.
3)Battery life- Because of the screen size the battery life isn't best in class. I will say that it is decent though. You can check threads with users posting their SOT. I on average get about 5.5-6 hours screen on time over the course of a day. (If I ever have time to use it that much.)
But with all those things considered there are a few benefits too, which I'm sure you've heard. When it all comes down to it if you are considering the Nexus 6 the other phone you might want to consider is the Note 4. It is close to the same screen size, same processor, and same battery size. I for one thought the Nexus 6 was the better option because of the Nexus phone support and that it has a bone-stock version of Android. I can't stand Samsung's bloatware.
TL;DR:If you want a phone right now it's a good choice. If you can wait a few months, wait a few months.

melgibson666 said:
If you can wait for a device that you like (form factor, screen, brand) that has the 810 processor in it, I would wait for that. But if you want a phone this second then the Nexus 6 is a decent choice. With that being said you have a few things to consider.
1)Curved back - For some people this is a deal breaker. Don't ask me why it just is.
2)Large size- At a whopping 5.96" it is large in the average person's hand. I have large hands so this was actually fine for me.
3)Battery life- Because of the screen size the battery life isn't best in class. I will say that it is decent though. You can check threads with users posting their SOT. I on average get about 5.5-6 hours screen on time over the course of a day. (If I ever have time to use it that much.)
But with all those things considered there are a few benefits too, which I'm sure you've heard. When it all comes down to it if you are considering the Nexus 6 the other phone you might want to consider is the Note 4. It is close to the same screen size, same processor, and same battery size. I for one thought the Nexus 6 was the better option because of the Nexus phone support and that it has a bone-stock version of Android. I can't stand Samsung's bloatware.
TL;DR:If you want a phone right now it's a good choice. If you can wait a few months, wait a few months.
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There's no point waiting for a few more months, just a couple months later. the Nexus 6 will be even better because the development will be more mature in terms of custom ROMs and kernels.
Going to a phone that is a non-Nexus will have less development and the software will be more bloated with carrier apps and manufacturer skins. Once you go to a Nexus, you stay a Nexus. If a user is wanting something that works outside of the box and doesn't care too much about development then by all means go to a non-Nexus but if you care about custom ROMs and kernels then Nexus devices are the way to go.

I came from a G3 and before that a Note 3
. the Nexus 6 is by far my favorite phone. The development for it is far beyond any other device I have seen, we have kernels, ROMs and everything in between.
The size isn't bad in fact I really like how big it is. It only took a day or two to get used to. Note when I use my wife's Moto X 2014 or S5 its like looking at a iPhone 4. While here may be other devices out there shortly with the SD810 its not going to be as good without devs working on making it better. I had the G3 F460S which had the SD805 and it was much slower than the Nexus with the same processor. LG didn't optimize the chip set well enough to make it worth the upgrade over the regular G3. My antutu score with it was ~46K which is the same as the Moto X that my wife has which is 100% stock. While my G3 was rooted and tweaked with some mods at the time.
The AMOLED display looks great compared to a LCD and its very responsive.
It boils down to preference and I love my Nexus and will buy the next one as well.

zephiK said:
There's no point waiting for a few more months, just a couple months later. the Nexus 6 will be even better because the development will be more mature in terms of custom ROMs and kernels.
Going to a phone that is a non-Nexus will have less development and the software will be more bloated with carrier apps and manufacturer skins. Once you go to a Nexus, you stay a Nexus. If a user is wanting something that works outside of the box and doesn't care too much about development then by all means go to a non-Nexus but if you care about custom ROMs and kernels then Nexus devices are the way to go.
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Nexus phones aren't the end all be all. Usually they have the most developer support but buying something just because it's a Nexus branded phone sounds an awful lot like those "Fruit" buying fanboys that will buy anything their cult favorite company puts out.

zephiK said:
Not going to lie though, the opo is a great value phone where the specifications don't compromise. It's a very hot phone and the development is pretty good as I've owned one. The development is better than some of the other non nexus devices.
Essentially you're paying to have a bigger screen and front facing speakers as well as a number of other features such as turbo charger.
But you're losing, notification led (can be enabled on n6), ips for a amoled, battery life.
Opo battery life is much better than n6 by 1 hour sot in my personal experience. I still prefer the n6, I love the big size phone and I can't see myself using a screen that isn't as wide.
Ultimately, the choice is up to you. My recommendation is go to a t mobile store and play with the demo. Although, the size isn't a problem once you've used the phone for week, you get used to it.
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i would also add that battery life is the most subjective issue. it literally depends on how you use the phone. if you're playing games or generally playing around with your phone, your battery life will suck. i use mine as a phone and tool for work and music in the gym and i get 2+ days of use.

Comes down to this....
TeChNoC4AzY said:
Okay well. Right now i have the oneplus one. Its a great phone and i like it and all... But no android l support yet (no cm12s), my touch screen is going bad, support is eh... and im just wanting to buy something that has been improved over many years... And is reliable. opo is kinda new.. with a single device.
So i thought of the nexus 6. It looks and feels amazing (as i have held/saw one) scores really nice on benchmarks despite the quad hd display.
My opo currently has the bamboo back (swap cover) and its in perfect condition, should be worth a good amount, and i get paid soon. So now i am tempted to buy the nexus 6.
Afew questions.
Firstly, I am all about having fast/latest hardware, so here is where my concern comes in. Is this nexus 6 a first of a soon soc snapdragon 805? Because i remember when the nexus 5 was out, half a year later there was a much better soc snapdragon 801. I know the nexus 6 will be fast, but i am just thinking ahead..
Next, is $700+ (as i would get the 64gb one) worth it?.. Its a HUGE jump from the previous $400 32gb nexus 5.. I thought nexus devices were always going to be cheap.. I mean, a bigger screen, a better build quality and snapdragon 805.. that's about all.
Middle, Will it be worth alot by next year when the next nexus arrives? (for resale purposes)
And lastly, should i just go for the nexus 6? And stay in the nexus line.. Or wait for a snapdragon 810 model phone to release.. As 64bit is arriving this year.
PS: Is metro PCS supported?
That's about all i am wondering..
Thanks for anyone that can help me.
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If you like to tinker and have the time to spend doing so, the Nexus is the obvious choice. If on the other hand you spend more time doing things, working, recreation, socializing, then another phone will probably suit you better. Unfortunately this was my first Nexus device, and I got it thinking that it would be great to have a phone without all the carrier bloat. After getting it I found that many things I've come to consider standard in a phone, settings, options, etc. are sadly not present and probably will be in time with tinkering and trial and error, but I no longer have the time nor the patience to experiment on a device that I paid a large premium for that just seems to not only be crippled by sloppy software but also with possible hardware inconsistencies. I am lucky that I can jump any time I want and probably will here as soon as more devices come to market. But one thing the Nexus will do for you is help you to appreciate the care that other manufacturers put into their devices to support many features and options that a pure android device does not. So, with that in mind, make your won decision and live with it.

IMO, it's overpriced based on the quality of screen and some parts they used + poor QC.

Worth buying now ?

Hello guys.
I don't know if motorola droid turbo worth buying now in 2016 since it has been released in 2014 with Snap 805 which is a 32 bit processor.
So i need some help from you guys is this a good choice now ?
The Resolution, Super AMOLED Screen with top quality material and of course the battery capacity with Fast battery charging 2.0 are noticable facts.
So What do you think ?
Thank you .

It's definitely still a good midrange phone. I actually just pulled mine out today. Was ahead of its time and still keeps up pretty well. It all comes down to the price, honestly.
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Right. Ahead of its time and has kept up. Not many "mid-range" phones have 3GB RAM. Most have 2GB.
And several other features "mid-range" phones don't have.
decent quad core Snapdragon 8xx series chipset
3 GB RAM
3900 mAh battery.
64GB storage (at least mine has that)
Qi wireless charging (Google screwed up by removing that from the 2015 Nexus phones)
AMOLED display (even Apple is moving to that. I already have it)
1440p display (no Apple phone has that, and still only top tier Androids do)
IR sensors (tell me what new mid-range phones have this?)
ballistic nylon back (which is REALLY ballistic nylon + kevlar underneath. This is why the ballistic nylon option is better -- it's ballistic nylon AND kevlar, instead of kevlar only. Quite unique among phones and no "mid-range" phones have that.)
I still think of it as a top tier phone even though I know the specs are 1.5 years old. Last summer I won a 2015 LG G4 I never even used because I like this phone so much. I even bought a 3rd one recently, to have a backup. (My wife uses my 2nd one.)
If only it had rear camera OIS and stereo speakers... This was the phone Google should have released as the gen6 Nexus, instead of the "whale". Except for those two options, it's identical to the Moto Nexus 6, except in a better size.

Considering that you can get a used Turbo in good condition starting at $150 yes its a good deal. This is my 2nd one and my wife has one as well. I am switching devices this week because I plan to use my phone outside a lot the next few months and the Turbo screen isnt very good in the sun.

I bought mine 250€ brand new one month ago from eBay. I think it's the best you can get for that much money here in France, it may be cheaper in other countries like U.S. for example. Good QuadCore + AMOLED 1440p + 3900MaH + Nice design. This phone is the only with these kind of specs at this price.

It's 2017 - is the Moto X (2014) still recommended?

I've the chance to buy probably BNDS / BNIB units at the same cost as say more recent MT6737M/ Snapdragon 435 even MT6795 units with microsd, 64bit support.
I'm tempted by having the snapdragon 801 at a low cost but is it too late now expecially with the lack of 64bit support or does its raw power still relevant?
What would you do?

Moto X was a great device in its era. Even today I still praise it for the most compact device with a 5,2 inch screen. I can operate it easily with one hand. But,in today's standart,it's an outdated device. You got plenty devices with better specs and prices to choose. The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life. I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X and comparing both is so pathetic. Battery endurance in Redmi Note 4 is so much better. If Moto X is the device with 4000 mah battery, I think it's still countable. With custom ROM,Moto X is still fast and fluid. I prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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I don't even know how to root it to get sunshine. Kingroot doesnt work and sunshine says the firmware isnt compatible.

Absolutely......................................not. Look I love my X 2014 but it was a flawed device when it came out and that didn't let it age well. The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison. The lack of fingerprint sensor might not seem like a big deal but until you use it, you don't know what your missing. The phone is still smooth but how long until developers move on. The design in my opinion was still one of the best, a classic for sure. It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.

Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus

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huatz84 said:
prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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Yeah I had hoped that the overall experience is still preferable even taking into account its cons.
huatz84 said:
The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life.
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I'm of the mindset that I can offset this issuee with phone with lots of powerbank choices now.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison.
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This is disappointing -- 1 factor that makes me consider this is (since i had no real life experience with it) -- that the AMOLED screen and camera would still be competent to comparable models.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
...It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
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DustArma said:
Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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OK, if while considering all the above I add the relative context that in my area if available the G5 plus is 200USD, while the Moto X would be 110USD bnew, would that make it more appealing?

I've had mine for 2 years, and still loving it. I bought it in a carrier store for 400 Canadian Dollars. Since I can only buy phones in a store at full retail price, my choices are somewhat limited. I still can't find a "better" phone at $500 CAD. My Moto X 2014 is running the latest Android perfectly with 2GB RAM, and will run Android 8.0 Oreo (custom ROMs). The only consideration is band support, as it may not support the latest and fastest LTE bands used by some carriers nowadays. Also, this phone has NFC, some lower priced new phones may not.
The things I would be looking for in a new phone: longer battery life, latest LTE bands support, and maybe a bigger screen, like 5.5+ inch.

I just got that phone about 3 days ago... It is just amazing..remember.. It was a flagship.. Soft/hdw integratiom are perfect. Even with low battery and 2 gb of ram.. It's more worthy than several mid ranges phone mentioned. Besides, you get plenty of development for at least one more year.. Go for it!

What have you replaced your beloved Droid Turbo with

Since its nearing the end of 2018 and many of us have made the decision to transition away from our beloved XT1254, either for newer Android experience or security update concerns, etc. It still seems many Turbo users are still hanging in there as the performance of the 2014 beast is still relevant today, or currently deciding which phone to get as the holiday season approaches! Lets give them a hand and give feedback on the phone we updated to. There are many diverse choices out their and each of us have DIFFERENT PRIORITIES on the features we finally decided on, so please NO PHONE BASHING from individuals on why their choice is the ONE AND ONLY CHOICE (there is another thread for that below if that is what you are into) , everyone is different and value different features above others - Great!
I will start with my choice the OnePlus 6t. I checked out all the phones this season and there were some great choices, but staying on the Verizon network was a priority for me so it made certain brands unavailable. When I found out that the 6t would be certified by Verizon it peaked my interest right away. Knowing the OnePlus brand and liking the direction they are headed, basically giving a heads up to the established brands that you need not spend 1000$ for a flagship performance phone in 2018. I jumped because it had everything that I valued, the latest 845 processor 8 g RAM and 256 g internal storage. The camera system is completely capable for me though I know there are superior cameras in other brands. Also Android Pie out of the box and the phone is bloat free, only the Android suite of apps, no even a OnePlus mail app! The speed and smoothness of the operating system is amazing coming from our Turbos and there is a very active XDA community for those who want to unlock and root the device. Its also refreshing that OnePlus seems to embrace the XDA community and OEM unlock is a simple ADB command! They also have a history of quick security and system updates.
EDIT: how can I forget the battery performance, with a 3700 mah and the efficiency of Android 9 it actually beats our 2014 beast!
So what were your choices and why? Lets give our fellow Turbo owners a hand!

Well, a bunch of us have bought LG V30...
@schwinn8, @gimpy1, @nnjimmy59, and a half dozen other Droid Turbo owners have joined us in the LG V30 forum...
schwinn8 said:
I was jealous of my wife's new phone, so she is getting me one for Xmas now... so I'll be off my Turbo soon!
For those interested, I can recommend the ebay store I bought ours from, since they are BNIB units... and the store just dropped the price a bit more, so it's $299 for a brand new 64GB version! https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-64GB-US-Cellular-Smartphone-Silver-Mint/173602248812
As ChazzMatt was right to point out, ignore the "US Cellular" mentions... it ran on Total Wireless (VZ MVNO) without ANY modifications. I still went to VS996 anyway, (he flashed US998 to Verizon VS996 firmware after bootloader unlock and root) but it's not limited to US Cellular in any way, contrary to the listing.
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@schwinn8, the middle option below is your phone. It's there because of you. But posting all this here so others can choose which one they want.
Holidays coming up. Here's THREE great deals on 64GB V30/128GB V30+ on eBay below. You always need a spare! Also, very likely eBay will suddenly throw out one of their site-wide 15%-20% off coupons around Black Friday or Cyber Monday? I'm just guessing. They tend to do that around various holidays. A bunch of us bought "mint" V30+ for ADDITIONAL 20% off "Buy It Now" price during Father's Day week.
* LG V30 LS998- 128GB - Titan Black (Sprint) Smartphone A Mint - $299
I've bought from that guy several times or had others buy from him. Just make sure you get the "mint" one. Use Frankenstein to convert to US998 or Verizon VS996. Or convert to US998, bootloader unlock, install TWRP, root -- and THEN convert to Verizon VS996, like @schwinn8 did. But US998 also works on Verizon; US998 works on ANY North American carrier.
OR if you want BRAND NEW IN BOX -- with 2-year LG warranty:
* BRAND NEW IN BOX - LG V30 US998 64GB US Cellular Smartphone-Silver - $299
Same price as the "mint" V30+ but it's NEW and already US998...
* BRAND NEW IN BOX. Ignore that the listing title says "mint" -- the listing itself makes clear it's brand new AND the two users above bought THREE of these new V30 and can verify it's BRAND NEW and eligible for 2-year LG warranty. I've re-written the listing title above to be what it SHOULD say.
* Also ignore the statement it's for "U.S. Cellular only". It's a genuine, new US998 V30+. Seems to be U.S. Cellular overstock, but we all know all US998 are carrier unlocked. The ONLY difference between the B&H Photo "open market" US998 and the U.S. Cellular US998 was the "open market" was eligible for OFFICIAL bootloader unlock. We don't need that with WTF. This thread has a MUCH simpler bootloader unlock for US998 than the OFFICIAL LG bootloader unlock (which I did for one of my V30). Many, many people have bought U.S. Cellular US998 here in this forum and know they are carrier unlocked. That's just leftover language from OTHER U.S. Cellular phones they sell.
REMOVED THE THIRD LISTING, WHICH WAS FOR NEW V30+ -- AS THE SELLER IS SHIPPING 64GB V30 IN A V30+ BOX. I RETURNED MINE AND GETTING A REFUND.
LG V30/V30+
1440P OLED (537 ppi)
Qi wireless charging
3.5mm headset jack
Quad DAC
IP68 dust/water resistance
rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
superfast fingerprint sensor
64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
microSD port for additional storage
bootloader unlock and root
no notch
Just make sure you buy a decent case, like Spigen. These V30 can be slippery as fish wiggling around. Love this one.
Spigen Rugged Armor LG V30 with Resilient Shock Absorption and Carbon Fiber Design for LG V30 (2017) - Black
https://www.amazon.com/Spigen-Rugged-Resilient-Absorption-Carbon/dp/B071JV1L9Z?ref_=nav_ya_signin&

That's an excellent point. There are some killer deals online for the older 2017 flagships, S8s, V30, Pixel 2s all Verizon friendly and still competent performers. Even the more powerful early 18 flagships, S9s and V40 should have some competitive holiday pricing.

Keep in mind, most of the other new phones give up some of the features that were important to ChazzMatt (and myself). For me, the important things were a headphone jack, bootloader unlock/root, and no idiotic notch. The SD card capability was a bonus I wasn't expecting... which allowed me to choose the NEW 64GB phone instead of the Mint 128GB phone - I figured I can upgrade storage later if I need to. The other features mentioned above are good bonuses as well...
I'm very happy with the phone... only complaint may be the weird 18:9 aspect of the device. It's not a problem, but just weird... on the other hand, it keeps the phone skinny so it's easier to handle in one hand. Chazz had a great thread where he went into a lot of detail on why he landed on this phone... if you're interested, it's a good read... but in the end, many of us agree with the LG V30, especially at this price.
EDIT: As for the case, I got the Ringke Onyx in purple, from here: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B3NVL6W - they have a black if you prefer. I like the "brushed" texture on the back, and like ChazzMatt said, it makes the phone easier to hold (and it's protected from drops, of course). I had a basic TPU case on my Turbo as well, and it lasted me 4 years, so I expect this will be sufficient (we take good care of our phones!)

Yes if headphone jack is a priority, it seems like dwindling choices, basically Samsung and LG if you want a Verizon friendly flagship. Industry insiders agree that the jack may last another 2019 season at best so get it while you can. Once Samsung gives it up ( S10 prediction) then it will be history as technology moves forward. By getting an S8/9 or V30/40 at least you will have the headphone jack option for a number of years until you upgrade again, then there will always be dongles to fall back on.

It was hard to let go the turbo. What a great phone and the roms from @BHB27 just kept it going strong. Being a Verizon / Straight Talk customer and knowing the 3g phase-out was on the horizon, I started investigating options for replacement and upgrade. Indeed we each have our own priorities and constraints, and the search proved difficult. The Turbos set a high standard and some of the recent design decisions and fads like elimination of headphone jacks and the notch are not to my liking. The v30 met all of my requirements, and I had my fingers crossed that bootloader unlock would be released by LG or achieved by other means. I pulled the trigger on a pair of open market LG v30s's in May shortly after the WTF unlock was announced. The v30s model has an extra dose of ram vs the v30 and v30+ siblings, 6gb vs 4; and is otherwise the same. The decison proved to be a good one; the v30's match or beat the Turbo in nearly every way while retaining most of its desireable attributes. It is durable per the MIL spec. The display is clear and bright. Despite the slightly smaller battery, it runs longer on a charge. The camera and video capabilities are incredible. The quad dac and a 3.5 mm jack give super sweet sounding audio. There is a growing mod community, too. I could go on but you get the idea.
As @ChazzMatt points out, there are exellent deals making v30's a great value in terms of bang for the buck. B&H Photo has an awesome sale going on for the v30s right now, too. The Moroccan blue looks nice, BTW!
Lastly, please don't take this as unwanted advice. I am just sharing my experience with fellow Turbo users to help in making their own decison in the not too distant future.

cmrntnnr said:
It was hard to let go the turbo. What a great phone and the roms from @BHB27 just kept it going strong. Being a Verizon / Straight Talk customer and knowing the 3g phase-out was on the horizon, I started investigating options for replacement and upgrade. Indeed we each have our own priorities and constraints, and the search proved difficult. The Turbos set a high standard and some of the recent design decisions and fads like elimination of headphone jacks and the notch are not to my liking. The v30 met all of my requirements, and I had my fingers crossed that bootloader unlock would be released by LG or achieved by other means. I pulled the trigger on a pair of open market LG v30s's in May shortly after the WTF unlock was announced. The v30s model has an extra dose of ram vs the v30 and v30+ siblings, 6gb vs 4; and is otherwise the same. The decison proved to be a good one; the v30's match or beat the Turbo in nearly every way while retaining most of its desireable attributes. It is durable per the MIL spec. The display is clear and bright. Despite the slightly smaller battery, it runs longer on a charge. The camera and video capabilities are incredible. The quad dac and a 3.5 mm jack give super sweet sounding audio. There is a growing mod community, too. I could go on but you get the idea.
As @ChazzMatt points out, there are exellent deals making v30's a great value in terms of bang for the buck. B&H Photo has an awesome sale going on for the v30s right now, too. The Moroccan blue looks nice, BTW!
Lastly, please don't take this as unwanted advice. I am just sharing my experience with fellow Turbo users to help in making their own decison in the not too distant future.
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Pixel 3 directly from google (unlocked) with the buy one get one half off sale last week. Already have the bootloader unlocked & rooted w/Magisk. Will keep my Turbo nearby since it tethers/wifi hotspot to my other devices with ease. I am still working on getting my Pixel to do the same thing with Magisk since I am on an unlimited plan. The newer phone's screen is slightly smaller width wise but a hair taller. I am trying to get used to it. The speed of the Pixel though is insane compared to the Turbo. Also went to 128GB vs my old 64gb.

FYI, even Wallyworld is getting in on the game, as they have a V30+ for $399 on their site: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-V30-S...-MP-5-MP-front-camera-Android-black/272122892

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FYI, even Wallyworld is getting in on the game, as they have a V30+ for $399 on their site: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-V30-S...-MP-5-MP-front-camera-Android-black/272122892
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Installed a magisk module in the Pixel 3 that allows me to switch the squeeze method to whatever I want the phone to do. Now I squeeze the phone and the flashlight turns on! :laugh: No more nun-chuck action needed.
Battery seems to be slightly better than the turbo too. I think the Pixel 3 was a good choice. The camera is also way better than any phone in the world at the moment, pictures look excellent. :good:

Rumsfield said:
Installed a magisk module in the Pixel 3 that allows me to switch the squeeze method to whatever I want the phone to do. Now I squeeze the phone and the flashlight turns on! :laugh: No more nun-chuck action needed.
Battery seems to be slightly better than the turbo too. I think the Pixel 3 was a good choice. The camera is also way better than any phone in the world at the moment, pictures look excellent. :good:
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Sounds like a great choice, the camera undoubtedly gets the best reviews to date in a smart phone. What's your position on getting updates with a rooted phone, will you be able to side load and then reroot, or will the OTAs still come through, then reroot?

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FYI, even Wallyworld is getting in on the game, as they have a V30+ for $399 on their site: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-V30-S...-MP-5-MP-front-camera-Android-black/272122892
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Interesting. I'm having trouble finding a NEW US998 128GB V30+ for a decent price. B&H Photo is still selling them for outrageous amount, but this is $100 less than theirs.
eBay allegedly has a "new" LG V30+ for $378 but they shipped me a new V30 instead, then asked me if I would accept a refund of $45 for the difference. Uh, NO. Your Wal-Mart link has it for $399...
I should probably just buy another "mint" 128GB V30+ for $299... but I decided I really want a brand new in box. I've bought both, so I'm all for the "mint" ones when they are truly mint.

jrmt077 said:
Sounds like a great choice, the camera undoubtedly gets the best reviews to date in a smart phone. What's your position on getting updates with a rooted phone, will you be able to side load and then reroot, or will the OTAs still come through, then reroot?
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No idea how its going to play out since they are still tinkering with TWRP for the P3 phones, I just downloaded the OTA update image from googles site and flashed it with ADB, then flashed TWRP + Magisk in recovery. I think the OTA's automatically coming in will knock custom recovery out. I haven't had a new phone in almost 5 years so I am re-learning everything. I do miss the Turbo but the speed of the P3 is on a different level.

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No idea how its going to play out since they are still tinkering with TWRP for the P3 phones, I just downloaded the OTA update image from googles site and flashed it with ADB, then flashed TWRP + Magisk in recovery. I think the OTA's automatically coming in will knock custom recovery out. I haven't had a new phone in almost 5 years so I am re-learning everything. I do miss the Turbo but the speed of the P3 is on a different level.
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Yes that's why I am debating the worth of rooting a 2018 phone. All my previous reasons, to remove bloat and optimize battery life no longer seem relevant to me with 6t - no need - same with your P3 - not sure I have the patience to side load and reroot for updates but nice to have the option. Agree on the speed and smooth response of a new 845 processor device, I didnt realize what I was missing as technology moves forward at such a fast pace. Hopefully this will give people on the fence a reason to jump.

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Yes that's why I am debating the worth of rooting a 2018 phone. All my previous reasons, to remove bloat and optimize battery life no longer seem relevant to me with 6t - no need - same with your P3 - not sure I have the patience to side load and reroot for updates but nice to have the option. Agree on the speed and smooth response of a new 845 processor device, I didnt realize what I was missing as technology moves forward at such a fast pace. Hopefully this will give people on the fence a reason to jump.
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Plus the P3 has a fingerprint scanner for unlocking (I LOVE THIS NOW) and wire-(less?) charging @10Watts with the stand I purchased half off last week. I received the SCREEN CALLING feature a few days ago and its awesome to mess with SPAM/ROBO callers. I got one today and they hung up soon as they heard it. Low light night photos shoot options, the new yellow tinted screen when its late at night...Its just a great new experience. :good:

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Plus the P3 has a fingerprint scanner for unlocking (I LOVE THIS NOW) and wire-(less?) charging @10Watts with the stand I purchased half off last week. I received the SCREEN CALLING feature a few days ago and its awesome to mess with SPAM/ROBO callers. I got one today and they hung up soon as they heard it. Low light night photos shoot options, the new yellow tinted screen when its late at night...Its just a great new experience. :good:
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V30 has all that -- plus headset jack and quad DAC. . Yeah, all Androids have had Bluetooth for YEARS. Just because you have Bluetooth doesn't mean you also don't want headset jack. I use both.
Just like ALL my phones have had Qi wireless charging since 2013... I won't buy a phone without Qi wireless charging. Nexus 5 had it as well as Moto Quark. Sure, I also want to plug in sometimes to charge. You can do both.
Yeah, super fast fingerprint scanner is great. Plus IP68 dust/water resistance -- which some pretender phones don't have.
microSD card? Nice to have. I've had phones with them, and without. V30 has it, so that's good. But it's not my line in the sand, like Qi wireless charging.
Real premium phones have lots of features like that. I don't want to buy a "basic" phone that doesn't have premium features like Qi wireless charging, IP68 (or any kind of IP rating?), headset jack. QUAD DAC for the headset jack is cherry on top. MicroSD card is just bonus points.

I think the current trend is that most people stopped using wired headphones with their phones a very long time ago. If I want audiophile clarity with my music, I'll listen at home with a FLAC file through over the ear headphones. Also, the current internal memory storage sizes are so much larger than they used to be that micro sd cards are no longer needed...I like having physical copies of CD's too but Best Buy just quit selling them all-together in their stores... tech & trends change and as much as I don't agree with some design choices or older features being left out, I don't think the big companies like Google or Apple are going to switch back anytime soon. IMHO the LG has more "features" but the P3 does what it does better than any other android phone at the moment.

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FYI, even Wallyworld is getting in on the game, as they have a V30+ for $399 on their site: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-V30-S...-MP-5-MP-front-camera-Android-black/272122892
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ChazzMatt said:
Interesting. I'm having trouble finding a NEW US998 128GB V30+ for a decent price. B&H Photo is still selling them for outrageous amount, but this is $100 less than theirs.
eBay allegedly has a "new" LG V30+ for $378 but they shipped me a new V30 instead, then asked me if I would accept a refund of $45 for the difference. Uh, NO. Your Wal-Mart link has it for $399...
I should probably just buy another "mint" 128GB V30+ for $299... but I decided I really want a brand new in box. I've bought both, so I'm all for the "mint" ones when they are truly mint.
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@schwinn8, thanks again for the Wal-Mart link. Used it last night to order GUARANTEED new open market/carrier unlocked 128GB V30+ US998.
All the other "new" US998 V30+ on EBay seem to be Chinese sellers pretending to look like U.S. dealers, and they are selling refurbished models with inaccurate descriptions. In their pictures, they all have red flag stuff like "B&O" branded backs (which LG does not have rights to in North America) or "V30" logos on the back on what is supposedly a V30+. The one that I ordered -- which LOOKED legitimate -- when delivered turned out to be a 64GB V30 in a 128GB V30+ sealed box and came with B&O earbuds -- which was another dead giveaway it was NOT new. (North America V30/V30+ came with LG-branded earbuds.) Plus, the phone had 128GB microSD card already inserted. Besides again confirming the phone was NOT new, 128GB microSD card does NOT make up for me paying for (and not getting) 128GB internal storage! I already have a 256GB microSD card, thank you. Got a refund, and they gave me extra $25 for not giving them a negative review. I still said they shipped me "wrong item" but they refunded the money and communicated well. So, I am getting this NEW Wal-mart US998 V30+ for basically same price, once you consider I got paid $25 to receive and ship back a phone.
I have ordered many times from eBay dealers with satisfaction, but in this case trying to get an actual new-in-box 128GB US998 V30+ is a challenge.
So, since this LG V30 series phone has been on the market for a year now, I'm afraid of it disappearing -- with only worse-for-wear used models showing up in the future. I gave my mom my backup V30 US998 phone (the one I was forced to waive 2-year warranty on which has the now unnecessary LG "official" bootloader unlock -- since now ANY V30/V30+/V30S can bee bootloader unlocked and rooted without LG's permission), and my wife has the other 64GB V30 US998 phone. But I have a V30+, and I want another as backup. I gave both my eBay "mint" LS998 V30+ > US998 V30+ to relatives who desperately needed new phones. I even locked the bootloader back and restored full US998 20E KDZ...
But I feel naked without a backup phone. Even for Quark, I owned THREE Moto XT1225 -- one for me, one for wife, and one still new in the box. I sold that one last year in preparation for buying the V30. Never used it, still had Kitkat 4.4.4 But it gave me comfort that if my daily phone was lost or stolen, I could easily be up and running again with EXACTLY the same beloved phone.
So, I have ordered this new US998 V30+ from Wal-mart, and will be arriving next week.
If I wasn't insisting upon brand new V30+ US998 this time, I could get basically the same thing for much less...
LG V30 LS998- 128GB - Titan Black (Sprint) Smartphone A Mint - $285
LS998 V30+ easily/fully converted to US998 V30+ in 10 minutes... I have already-activated AT&T SIM card, so just slap it in. I've done it twice before, so I don't know why I'm wasting money this time.
Here's another seller below. Looks like he's already converted them to US998 or possibly AS998? He doesn't say the model, but says they are "GSM Unlocked" -- but both US998 and AS998 ARE GSM/unlocked while still having Verizon CDMA bands.
*Mint* LG V30+ V30 Plus - 128GB - Black (GSM UNLOCKED) Smartphone! - $295

Rumsfield said:
I think the current trend is that most people stopped using wired headphones with their phones a very long time ago. If I want audiophile clarity with my music, I'll listen at home with a FLAC file through over the ear headphones. Also, the current internal memory storage sizes are so much larger than they used to be that micro sd cards are no longer needed...I like having physical copies of CD's too but Best Buy just quit selling them all-together in their stores... tech & trends change and as much as I don't agree with some design choices or older features being left out, I don't think the big companies like Google or Apple are going to switch back anytime soon. IMHO the LG has more "features" but the P3 does what it does better than any other android phone at the moment.
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I absolutely agree with you. I haven't used a wired headphone in years have no intention of ever using - so a headphone jack is just a useless hole in a phone for me. I have a set of premium wireless headphones and the sound is more than adequate for my needs. Among my decisions, as yours I suspect, were to have cutting edge 2018 processor speed and smooth performance & an android experience without a heavy OEM skin. I gave up wireless charging and official IP68 rating in favor of OnePlus 6t aggressive pricing, I thought I would give it a try and I am very happy with my device. I like how they are shaking up the market. If you want to have those features then I think the Pixel 3 or 3XL is the best overall choice for 2018. There are so many good reviews on both devices you really cannot go wrong, its just a matter of choice.

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LG V30 LS998- 128GB - Titan Black (Sprint) Smartphone A Mint - $285
LS998 V30+ easily/fully converted to US998/VS996 V30+ in 10 minutes...
Here's another seller below. Looks like he's already converted them to US998 or possibly AS998? He doesn't say the model, but says they are "GSM Unlocked" -- but both US998 and AS998 ARE GSM/unlocked while still having Verizon CDMA bands.
*Mint* LG V30+ V30 Plus - 128GB - Black (GSM UNLOCKED) Smartphone! - $295
LG V30/V30+
1440P OLED (537 ppi)
Qi wireless charging
3.5mm headset jack
Quad DAC
IP68 dust/water resistance
rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
superfast fingerprint sensor
64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
microSD port for additional storage
bootloader unlock and root
no notch
Just make sure you buy a decent case, like Spigen. These V30 can be slippery as fish wiggling around. Love this one.
Spigen Rugged Armor LG V30 with Resilient Shock Absorption and Carbon Fiber Design for LG V30 (2017) - Black
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Spigen-LG-...h=item3af07ab512:g:0fcAAOSwrtVZsv-A:rk:2:pf:0
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jrmt077 said:
I absolutely agree with you. I haven't used a wired headphone in years have no intention of ever using - so a headphone jack is just a useless hole in a phone for me. I have a set of premium wireless headphones and the sound is more than adequate for my needs. Among my decisions, as yours I suspect, were to have cutting edge 2018 processor speed and smooth performance & an android experience without a heavy OEM skin. I gave up wireless charging and official IP68 rating in favor of OnePlus 6t aggressive pricing, I thought I would give it a try and I am very happy with my device. I like how they are shaking up the market. If you want to have those features then I think the Pixel 3 or 3XL is the best overall choice for 2018. There are so many good reviews on both devices you really cannot go wrong, its just a matter of choice.
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You can have headset jack and still use inferior wireless earbuds if you wish. Your choice. But you know that no wireless earbuds are going to compare to headset jack with LG's quad DAC, but it's your choice. Bluetooth has been in Android phones for year.
I'm not meaning to criticize you but it seems your entire post is justifying giving up features for no reason at all: headset jack, IP68 dust/water resistance, Qi wireless charging, 1440p QHD. (Why would you want to buy a "replacement" phone for your 1440p QHD Droid Turbo and downgrade the resolution?) I wanted a phone as good as or better than the Moto Quarks I was replacing. In fact, I count SEVEN features listed above that OnePlus 6T does NOT have, including 4 features the Droid Turbo has. I have a premium phone with smooth performance AND those features. "Never settle." Yes, it's a matter of choice.
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FYI, even Wallyworld is getting in on the game, as they have a V30+ for $399 on their site: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-V30-S...-MP-5-MP-front-camera-Android-black/272122892
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24 hours after I ordered, they drop the price by $20. Now $379 for new in box with 2-year warranty. ARghh. But Android Authority is touting this price reduction, so I"m afraid if I cancel and try to re-order they will suddenly be out of stock or something!
I'll try to get a $20 refund when I pick up the phone at the store...

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I absolutely agree with you. I haven't used a wired headphone in years have no intention of ever using - so a headphone jack is just a useless hole in a phone for me. I have a set of premium wireless headphones and the sound is more than adequate for my needs. Among my decisions, as yours I suspect, were to have cutting edge 2018 processor speed and smooth performance & an android experience without a heavy OEM skin. I gave up wireless charging and official IP68 rating in favor of OnePlus 6t aggressive pricing, I thought I would give it a try and I am very happy with my device. I like how they are shaking up the market. If you want to have those features then I think the Pixel 3 or 3XL is the best overall choice for 2018. There are so many good reviews on both devices you really cannot go wrong, its just a matter of choice.
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I think this thread should be titled "Why you should replace the Turbo with the LG V30 and if you disagree you are wrong".
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