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Really interested in the Moto X...

So I just bought an LG G2 on Verizon last Saturday for $550 and while I love the phone, the Moto X is really tempting me to return my G2 and buy an X instead. I've already got CM10.2 on here so its nearly the same as what the Moto X is running and can currently get around 5-7 hours of screen on time with 19-24+ hours off the charger.
From what I've read, the Moto X gets fantastic battery life and despite its lesser specs, it still performs wonderfully which I've witnessed first hand. And the fact that the camera is no longer complete garbage is a huge plus as well. I'm not a big camera guy, but when I use it I need it to take good pictures.
So, do you guys think I should keep the G2 or return it for a Moto X? Really struggling with this decision and could use some insight. Has anyone else been in a similar situation?

Just ordered one yesterday when I saw jcase had an updated root method. I currently have an mdk s4 but the phone is just too big and I don't like capacitive buttons. To me it's just a matter of build quality... The s4 feels big and cheap and after playing with the x it doesn't even compare
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I owned the G2 for tmobile before I switched to ATT Moto X. Best decision ever.
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I just got my MotoX a few days ago (coming from a Gnex). I cant believe I didnt get this phone 2 months ago. Best phone I've had thus far. I am on the phone for alot of hours during the work week. Probably 100+ calls per day. I have never been able to not have to charge a phone mid way through the day before. I got home today with 23% batt left, with 15hrs of charger and 4.5 hrs of screen time, 4 hrs of calls.
I thought i wanted a larger screen phone, dont think I ever will now.
A friend of mine has an S4. Even though the S4 with CM10.2 gets higher "benchmarks", the fluidity of the stock moto x is much better. It is just a better overall experience. Like I said, not sure why I didnt get this phone 2 months ago.

magicriggs said:
I owned the G2 for tmobile before I switched to ATT Moto X. Best decision ever.
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What do you like better?
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What do you like better?
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Okay I was running stock on the G2. I liked the knock on feature on the G2 but it was inconsistent. The UX felt very much like touchwizz and even tho it was quad core, I noticed some lag. The one thing I like more on the G2 over the X is the screen and camera.
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magicriggs said:
Okay I was running stock on the G2. I liked the knock on feature on the G2 but it was inconsistent. The UX felt very much like touchwizz and even tho it was quad core, I noticed some lag. The one thing I like more on the G2 over the X is the screen and camera.
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True, there is some occasional lag on the G2 but overall it's pretty fast I think. I'm also intrigued by the moto x but the AT&T version has no development.
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barondebxl said:
True, there is some occasional lag on the G2 but overall it's pretty fast I think. I'm also intrigued by the moto x but the AT&T version has no development.
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Bro if your rocking stock on the G2 then you'll love Moto X stock. Pretty much straight vanilla with useful tweaks. Active notifications is awesome with that touchless control and moto connect. And these tweaks are flawless not a single issue.
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magicriggs said:
Bro if your rocking stock on the G2 then you'll love Moto X stock. Pretty much straight vanilla with useful tweaks. Active notifications is awesome with that touchless control and moto connect. And these tweaks are flawless not a single issue.
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I'm not too much of a stock android guy, I like custom UIs and I'm running cleanrom XE on the G2, it's pretty solid with insane battery life. But I like to try new phones so maybe I'll give a shot to the moto x
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I got ya bro
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See I just don't know if it's worth it when I'm already running stock Android on my G2 with no problems while also getting crazy battery life. It's just something about the Moto X is drawing me towards it, not to mention that Verizon is rumored to be getting MotoMaker on Nov 11th. My main concern, just like another user said, is that development doesn't seem that active for the Verizon variant. Or maybe I'm just blind?

I'm also waiting for Verizon to have access to Moto Maker (need at least 32GB of internal memory of I can't have an SD card) with fingers crossed that the wooden backs will be an option at that time.
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I've had pretty much every high end phone and I love the moto x. I bought a iPhone 5s only because they just happen to have a gold one while I was there. I sold that, made my profit, and went back to buy the moto x. I really can't think of anything negative to say about it.

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I just got my MotoX a few days ago (coming from a Gnex). I cant believe I didnt get this phone 2 months ago. Best phone I've had thus far. I am on the phone for alot of hours during the work week. Probably 100+ calls per day. I have never been able to not have to charge a phone mid way through the day before. I got home today with 23% batt left, with 15hrs of charger and 4.5 hrs of screen time, 4 hrs of calls.
I thought i wanted a larger screen phone, dont think I ever will now.
A friend of mine has an S4. Even though the S4 with CM10.2 gets higher "benchmarks", the fluidity of the stock moto x is much better. It is just a better overall experience. Like I said, not sure why I didnt get this phone 2 months ago.
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the benchmark tests are BS. They provide some insight into things, but as many reviews of phones have pointed out, the moto x actually does better in a lot of areas in real tests than other high end phones with better processors. I think the moto dev team worked hard to create a phone with lower specs that works faster than other phones because of all the new coding and filing systems they put into the device. This is also one of the reasons that development isn't as fast. A bunch of things are new to the dev community that moto was using and it will take some learning. I bet a lot of phones move to this type of coding and processors running their own thing, which will then make dev easier for phones like this.
hashcode said in his forum on SS that this was the hardest device he worked on getting SS to run properly with. How the system is set up and runs commands is different from other phones so benchmarks are not really benchmarks ya know. They are old benchmarks used just to test a processor, not a phones ability to perform tasks in real life. It's real life benchmarks beat out the htc one in many respects.

I have this phone and totally love it! I have hd every phone you could imagine all the galaxys, htc one, lg's all the iphones except 5s and it is the best phone I have ever had. I have a Nexus 5 coming and I may just return to sender because of how much this phone just works

AndreaCristiano said:
I have this phone and totally love it! I have hd every phone you could imagine all the galaxys, htc one, lg's all the iphones except 5s and it is the best phone I have ever had. I have a Nexus 5 coming and I may just return to sender because of how much this phone just works
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You had the G2 too? And you still think the Moto X is better? Reasons? Thanks in advance!

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You had the G2 too? And you still think the Moto X is better? Reasons? Thanks in advance!
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It feels about a million times better in hand.
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I just recently purchased a Moto X, coming from a motorola Atrix 4G and I'll tell you why...
Motorola has always made good hardware. They have a integrated circuit and electronics division that creates very robust designs. Their consumer and industrial hardware has been top of the line since the beginning days of the 2-way handheld radio. They make good hardware. Solid and rugged stuff.
Now, the Atrix had some problems regarding software support. It was never officially updated past gingerbread. I was fine using the kernel that was developed, although it wasn't perfect. This was a major issue for many that pushed them away from Motorola. I still loved the ruggedness of the once-flagship phone.
However, now that Google and Motorola Mobility are one, I feel there is a good chance this will not be as big of an issue in the future. I really feel we will have the best of both worlds with Motorola now -- excellent hardware as well as long term software support (whatever long term really means nowadays). At least, it's a 'risk' I'm willing to take.
So far, I am extremely happy with my Moto X.

I was an android convert from an iPhone 5. I started with the G2, it was a pretty nice phone but I couldn't get used to the size. I operate my phone with one hand most of the time and couldn't secure it well. The actual hardware was nice. I switched to the moto X four days later. I can wholehearted say that I don't miss ANYTHING on the G2. I really do like all the features that Motorola built into the X and Android.
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I too had a LG G2 and returned it for a Moto X on verizon. My main concerns were lesser battery life and camera.... and, a little bit of a concern was the smaller screen size. I too also had rooted and placed CM10.2 on the phone.
My comparisons....
G2 Pros:
1) Screen is slightly nicer/crisper on the G2. Not by much, but it's noticeable to me.
2) Screen size was nice to have... not a deal breaker, but nice to have.
3) More development community.
4) Battery life was AMAZING
5) Camera was very solid
G2 Cons:
1) Back buttons!!!! If the LG G2 had not decided to place the buttons on the back, I would still have that phone.
2) Knock-on feature, while useful, didn't work all the time. So, you have to pick up the device and try and find the damn back buttons to check a notification. Or look like an idiot stabbing a black screen.
3) Slimy back. I felt like this thing would fall out of my hand. Please note, I really don't care what the phone is made of. I've owned the Note 2 and didn't feel the same way as with the G2. G2 was just slick in comparison.
4) cheezy LG UI. Why can't they just do like Motorola and improve camera/knock-on stuff and leave the stock apps to google?!?
Moto X Pros:
1) Form factor and build quality is really fantastic. Feels so good in the hand that the screen size argument vanishes.
2) Sound/speaker quality is noticeably better than any phone I've had. A little strange that I noticed this, but I've seen it mentioned before from others as well.
3) Active notifications are pretty handy, and am quickly getting used to them.
4) Always listening device... verdict still out on this, perhaps a bit gimmicky.
5) Prefect implementation of AOSP. improved in some areas, and left everything else alone! Hence, no needing for new ROMs. Root, yes. But only for Xposed stuff.
Moto X Cons:
1) Battery not up to par with LG G2... but very good. I get a full day and I'm a heavy user.
2) Camera not quite as good compared to the G2... but the sensor is faster...perhaps a tradeoff.
Anyhow, I think the Moto X is a winner. The fact that I had to

[Q] Motorola Moto X or Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition?

I've been using the LG Nexus 4 since February & I feel as if it is about time for an upgrade, we've had some great times together but I'm just about ready to retire from it. My main reason why, battery life. It's obvious that the Nexus 4 has awful battery life, I've never been able to make it through a full day even when I first bought it. I love it for the obvious reasons; vanilla android, updates, etc.
SO my question for you guys today is what seems like the better buy here? The Moto X or the GPE S4? Keep in mind that money is not an issue here. Now this is the Moto X thread & I know that many will say go with the X for sure but I want to hear everyone's take on this.
Reasons why I'd consider the Moto X:
Active Display - Just brilliant, I played with it on my friend's X the other day & it's TRUE. I don't think I could consider any other phone that doesn't have this feature. On my Nexus 4, I have to pull it out of my pocket, hit the power button, unlock it, check the notification, hit the power button again & then put it back in my pocket. -_-
Touchless Control - Is a feature I've always wanted without having to buy an S3, S4, with S-Voice. Being able to call out "Okay Google Now" while idle is genius.
Quicklaunch Camera: I was starting to believe that this feature was a gimmick but this isn't the case, I can see myself using this daily.
Vanilla Android: I don't do skins & this is probably why this phone is so damn fluid, I honestly think the X smokes my Nexus 4 with just about everything except maybe gaming. But I could care less about that I'm not a mobile gamer.
Moto Assist: Watching my friend use this feature while riding in the passenger seat of the car I was completely blown away, this works as advertised. Enough said.
AMOLED Display: Confession, I'm an AMOLED whore. I miss the over saturation on my Galaxy Nexus & active display takes full advantage of this. I'm reminded how much more battery I can save with blacked out apps. I don't care about burn in, I don't use a phone as my daily driver for more than two years & I don't find myself staying on one screen for very long.
Build Quality: This phone was obviously well built. It's the same 4.7 inch display on my Nexus 4 but yet somewhat a tad bit smaller which is a plus. I'll leave it at this, the Moto X feels like sex in my hand.
Battery life: Last but certainly not least. I haven't had the chance to play with one for a full day but from what I've been seeing on G+, people have reportedly been able to get through a FULL day of heavy use with an average of 5hrs of SOT consistently. Now that sounds like the kind of battery that I desperately need. If I do end up getting the X I'll probably pick one of these up just in case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0SC-000Y-00026
Timely updates: Android 4.4 KitKat was announced along with the Nexus 5 on Halloween, & every Moto X was updated within three weeks of that. That's quite impressive to me, the Verizon variant was first in line, word?
Cons: The only con that I've been hearing is the camera but apparently the recent update fixed it. I have never been a big smartphone camera dude but I guarantee that it bests my Nexus 4. Another con would be the specs but Moto has proved that the spec war is just about over. The only thing I'm curious about is how long will this phone get updates because of its hardware/processor. Another con, ROM Development: Doesn't really bother me one bit, all I need is XPosed Framework, Unicon, & GravityBox. Truth be told I'm sort of over flashing & flashing every other day. I'm one of the few crack flashers left, I wonder how many there are left out there.
Reasons why I'd consider the Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition: Let's get this out of the way now, I've been told to just buy the regular S4 & flash the GPE ROM on it, I refuse. I want the actual OTA to come to the phone.
Super AMOLED 1080P Display: Like i said before, I'm an AMOLED whore & the 1080P would sweeten the icing on the cake even more.
Timely updates: Another major deciding factor here, it already has KitKat, but after the Moto X which is okay.
IR Blaster: I DO wish the X had a dedicated IR port, this is a feature that I really need but so far the X has more going for it as you can see above.
Removable Battery: Something that I really miss with my GNex was the removable battery. Battery life means a lot to me and that's WHY I'm not buying a Nexus 5. They say "just flash a custom kernel" but no I want something that is great out of the box with little to no modification. & besides the Nexus 5 doesn't have an OLED display but that's neither here nor there so let's get back on topic. Some say they've switched from the S4 to the X & noticed better battery regardless of the S4 having a slightly larger battery. But this is something I'll purchase if I do pick up the GPE S4: http://zerolemon.com/details.php/zerolemon-2x-galaxy-s4-3000mah-slim-battery-charger
Earbuds: It comes with earbuds, which is something that shouldn't even be on this list but seeing as the GPE S4 is losing I'll add this ha ha.
Cons: I was upset to find out that the GPE S4 doesn't support the 1700mHz band on T-Mobile which is 3G/HSPA+. I did some research but this isn't true. This only applies to the GPE HTC One.
ROM Development: There are like no ROM's for this phone but again, all I need is the XPosed framework, good to go.
No Active Display: I could use Knock2+ Notifications or Dynamic Notifications to achieve the feature on the X but I'm not sure how reliable they are.
Plastic Build Design: The plastic on Samsung phones has NEVER concerned me, although I cannot speak for other's. As I just put a high quality case on it anyway.
That's just my take on it, if you don't mind I'd like to hear everyone's take on this.

I have had both phones and have to say it's not even close. The mha of the battery is misleading on this phone. With all bells and whistles turned on I get consistently around 16 to 20 hours, and I pound out my phone allot all day while professors are gabbing. More if you use tasker and other techniques. And I used to love huge phones but the Moto x just gets every thing right. I'll never own another phone until the Moto x successor, and that's coming from someone who used to switch phones every other month
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I also had a gs4 earlier this year. I was able to get good battery life on my GS4 and it had a great camera but the X overall is a better phone with better battery life and fairly comparable camera. The active notifications are simply amazing, voice control works well and everything else simply just works properly with no lag. The GS4 just seemed glitchy and the stock samsung ROM was laggy.
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Thanks guys keep them coming!

I just came from a Galaxy S4 and moving to Moto X was the best decision I ever did.
Moto X has a much better battery life, it doesn't lag AT ALL, active notifications, voice recognition, almost no bloatware (google apps don't count).

I came from a Galaxy Nexus. The hardware design alone is astounding - you would actually rather have it in plastic than in metal, like what the HTC One offers. I spoke at length about what's so wonderful about the phone in some other thread. Long story short, I'm not switching away from this phone for a long time. I haven't had such a regretless purchase in a while. heh

I came from an S3 so take it for what it's worth.
Don't worry about specs. This phone runs very smooth better than my note2(when I had it). Every touchwiz device seems to have that bit of a lag or stutter.
I purchased this phone primarily for the touchless control feature, bit I've found myself liking the active notification feature just as much.
Although I did think the twist to launch camera was a gimmick it's actually very handy to be able to launch the camera from anywhere with a flick of the wrist.
One con of this phone is the camera quality I do prefer the pics of the S3.
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Removable Battery: Something that I really miss with my GNex was the removable battery. Battery life means a lot to me and that's WHY I'm not buying a Nexus 5. They say "just flash a custom kernel" but no I want something that is great out of the box with little to no modification. & besides the Nexus 5 doesn't have an OLED display but that's neither here nor there so let's get back on topic. Some say they've switched from the S4 to the X & noticed better battery regardless of the S4 having a slightly larger battery. But this is something I'll purchase if I do pick up the GPE S4: http://zerolemon.com/details.php/zerolemon-2x-galaxy-s4-3000mah-slim-battery-charger
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I've been looking into alternate battery options on the Moto X lately and for what it's worth Zero Lemon are making batteries for the Moto X.

EternalAndroid said:
Removable Battery: Something that I really miss with my GNex was the removable battery. Battery life means a lot to me and that's WHY I'm not buying a Nexus 5. They say "just flash a custom kernel" but no I want something that is great out of the box with little to no modification.
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The highlighted text describes the Moto X so well, and that applies across the board. Well, except the camera maybe.
What other phone can you think of that has middle of the road specs yet offers a user experience that bests all the flagships? I had the S3, I still have my Note 2, and I've played with all the current flagships. I think it's rare that a device, which can't (or shouldn't) compete on paper with the latest and greatest, leaves users without envy.
The Moto X truly is greater than the sum of its parts.

I love how you mention how you'd never go back to a phone with a fixed battery. I switched from an S3 to the Moto X and I'm loving all the other features but I miss the camera picture quality.

I have both phones. Moto X is superior in pretty much every way, perhaps save the screen. The software on the s4 impedes use and causes lag and crashes. The Moto SW actually improves things (shocker I know). Love active notifications, and as long as I'm alone OK Google Now is pretty fun

Moto X. And I like Samsung phones. I don't miss the removable battery nor microSD slot.
Both have the full AOSP experience, Motorola takes it to the next level with their X8.

Any former S4 users jump ship to the X?

I've had my Verizon GS4 since late summer, and while it's a nice device, it's not as smooth as my GS3 was. No matter what ROM I use or what update I'm running, it still feels "laggy" a lot of times. My S3 was butter all around, never had a single hangup with it. However, I do enjoy the display on the S4, it's fantastic.
But, times are changing and I'm no longer picky about things as I used to be. I'm now looking for a device that's smooth, fast, and reliable. I'd also like to have a phone that's just a tad smaller, trying to carry the S4 with a case on my duty gear sucks sometimes.
I've been eyeing the Moto X since it came out and played with it in the store from time to time, seems really nice. I've bounced between the idea of getting the X or Droid Maxx, but it seems the X performs better.
Anyone here that used to have an S4 that went to the X? Thoughts?

Came from a S4...HTC One, Moto X, then iPhone (wat), DROID MAXX, and now Moto X. Yes call it abnormal but I like trying new things. Let me tell you, I normally don't go back to the same device twice but the Moto X is the first phone to do that to me. It's a fantastic phone for everyday use.
S4 was jank central, HTC One had, in my opinion, a well optimized Sense skin but terrible functionality on top of Android. Went to Moto X to try it out as I was skeptical if it could run well with its mid range specs. Hands down the best Android experience. Useful features such as Active Display and Touch less control is a great and useful thing to have.
Being adventurous and Ocd as I was, I wanted to compare it with the iPhone 5...let's not go there. Lasted 2 days until I went to a Droid MAXX.
Droid MAXX is just as smooth coupled with the same Moto X experience but the feel and ergonomics compared to the Moto X is unmatched.
And now I'm currently typing this from a Moto Made Moto X. My god is this thing a god send. So smooth and so efficient with Motorola's software optimization.
Do yourself a favor and switch to the Moto X. It has cured my flashing and device switching OCD for now.
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I jumped ship. I bought the S4 on release day and even though, on paper, it's superior spec wise it's nowhere near as smooth as my moto x. The only things I miss from my S4 is the camera, screen and the ir blaster. The feel, active notifications, and touchless controls trump all the things the S4 offered.

I did. I had the S4 for a bit but as soon as I found out about the Moto X and kept reading about it, I had to give it a try. Glad I did. It's much snappier and overall has a better feel in the hand then the S4 ever did.
The only thing I miss from the S4 is the awesome camera and a bit more dev support, there's definitely a lot more roms for the S4. But quite honestly there isn't much needed on this phone, it's awesome out of the box and with simply having xposed framework and some of those modules, you're set!

Well, I just found out that with the S4 on 4.3 (MJ7, etc), you cannot flash another kernel with Safestrap, you're locked into the stock kernel. I was hoping I could at least flash a different kernel to help with the lag issues, but that's not possible now.
Making the jump to the X more enticing, now.

I jumped and couldn't be happier!
First phone ever with "lower specs" but a much better experience (and battery life!)

I'm in the middle of considering it . I *LOVED* my Galaxy S 3, it worked great, then I upgraded to the S4 when it was released, signal strength never seemed as strong as with the S3 and I hoped a radio update would fix that, it never did...not to mention the weird storage partitioning they have (only 9gb available to the user on a 16gb device..da hell?)
When the Moto X price was reduced I bit the bullet as I had been tempted to buy it for quite awhile and that was the final straw, I purchased the Verizon Dev Edition, so far the screen is great, the speaker is AMAZING, and the battery life seems great!
I see a few of you have missed the camera from the S4, I was doing comparison shots yesterday with the S4 running CM11 (I know AOSP camera usually doesn't get as much love as stock), but the pictures looked pretty good on both phones to me, I actually preferred the Moto X versions on 9/10 pictures.

Can you only buy the Dev Edition from Motorola directly? If I go with the X, it will be the Dev Edition.

I'll be able to compare soon - I have an S4 for my work phone and my new moto arrives tomorrow. I love android, but wtf did Samsung do to make it so laggy? I can't flash it as its a work phone, so am stuck. Even the iPhone 5 feels fresh compared to it...!

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Can you only buy the Dev Edition from Motorola directly? If I go with the X, it will be the Dev Edition.
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Yeah
Either that, or websites like swappa

I switched last month to the MotoX from the S4... Haven't looked back. I like the software out of the box for the X. I even prefer it to CM11 that I was running on my S4. As a matter of fact I may be a dedicated Motorola (non-"droid") customer. I like what they did with the software from top to bottom.

Dusty Rhodes said:
I switched last month to the MotoX from the S4... Haven't looked back. I like the software out of the box for the X. I even prefer it to CM11 that I was running on my S4...
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Agreed, I fully expected the X to become my backup phone, just in case anything happened to my S4, but now I'm just selling the S4. It doesn't even matter that my subsidized X doesn't have custom recovery, of course you won't have that problem with the Dev Edition.

So far its the Samsung thats leading in Android updates.....Moto X is behind.

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So far its the Samsung thats leading in Android updates.....Moto X is behind.
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You mean 4.4.2 only to Note 3 owners specifically in Poland!
I dunno, I'm posting on a .com here and my X is running 4.4.

Had an s4 the day it came out. I also have a HTC one and lg g2. Just picked up the moto x Dev edition over Xmas and as a true power switcher I'm hooked. You won't be disappointed.
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I to am a former user of a GS4 , and before that was the HTC one .
Like some people here, i also like to try new gadgets, and i also had gs3, nokia lumia, htx 8x, but mainly i use in my day to day 2 phones, iPhone 5s and now the moto X . I still have my GS4 and the nexus 5, but the moto x is overall better, nothing on the papper can tell you that, it just is.. the iphone i still have, but it's been since GS3 that apple phones are not my go to phone, they are the one i leave in the car or at home when i don't want to carry 2 phones, but they are light , small, and if you don't use it much it last 4 days with a single charge.
I am now going back to GS4, just because i got bored with the moto x, but i'm sure i will be back to it in no time, and there is no good reason to use my gs4 back, coz the moto x reception is much better (4g all the time in my region, with galaxy it keeps switching between 4g and H+ all the time), also the speaker is much louder and clear that i actually use the speakerphone during a call, and i can't even say its beacause the camera, coz i don't use it that much, or the SD card too, 16gb is more then enought for my usage, so no logic in going back to GS4.
This year the story will be the same i guess, i will be buying the GS5 , and be waiting for the release of the New Moto X .

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You mean 4.4.2 only to Note 3 owners specifically in Poland!
I dunno, I'm posting on a .com here and my X is running 4.4.
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Yeah it started to roll from Poland....I though GS4 also rolling update

s4 to moto x
I had the s4 for awhile. it was a good phone, I hated touch wiz though. it was laggish and gimmicky. I rooted it and went to cyangenmod. the phone was good, no serious problems. I just recently got the moto x. its honestly the best experienced I've had. at first I was a littlie nervous with the "mid range specs". but from personal use you would never guess it had "mid range specs". it is buttery smooth. and the screen was pretty good to. The battery life is surprisingly good, considering it only had a 2200 mAh battery. the only thing that isn't that good is the camera. but it still does take good pics. just not as good as my s4.

damn, must have been the rom I was running on my S4, because my X takes better pictures.
Photo guy with dslr's for like 20 years... yeah, I'm that guy. I'm not even fat, lol.

Moto X is solid as stock. GS4 is best used with a GPE ROM IMO, even if left at 4.2 with safestrap. Add Google Experience launcher, root and use GravityBox to either the Moto X or GS4 and you have a very similar experience that is epic. The X certainly does an outstanding delivery with the human integration. If screen size matters to you, choose accordingly. It is a very close call! Pretty amazing really because the X has the CPU of the GS3, but with the same GPU as the GS4. Moto won my trust back when they delivered the X after having lost it when they left the Atrix 4G in the dust.

G Flex is so good I can't even find a real upgrade device

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/benchmarks
Look at iPhone 6s/6s+'s, 750p/1080p, beats Android flagships in benchmarks and destroys them in on-screen GPU tests and real world usage. It literally doubled note 5 in on-screen FPS.
G Flex with its 720p screen and Snapdragon 800 is THE best battery/performance combination period. I am on LTE all day browsing the web and playing Hearthstone against people in real time, and even with this heavy usage I get 4-5 hours screen time. If I am on WIFI easily 5-6 hours screen time. My phone never overheats and I haven't seen any of the Snapdragon 805/810 devices being faster in real usage because of their 2K screens. In fact, all of them are a step backward in battery life. I never felt the 720p non-pentile screen was lacking in any way, low resolution / large text is a benefit when viewing contents that don't dpi scale properly!
For me, LG G3/G4/GFlex 2 are without any question downgrades. Battery life is significantly worse, screens are smaller, increased performance of CPU/GPU don't even cover the resolution increase. Just look at on-screen tests.
Really wish they make more 720p/1080p devices with latest processors, it looks like I am being pushed to iPhone 6s+ / 7+ down the road if nobody in the Android camp wises up. 2K screen is a downgrade not an upgrade in overall user experience!

Z3 and z5 compact are the only things that come close but they have tiny screens, otherwise the oppo r7 plus just don't expect updates, I guess with the g flex you're used to that
I went from a nexus 5 (small battery) to the g3 (very warm and bad battery) to the z2 and I love it. 2 days battery life and magnetic charging port for a cool alarm clock.

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Hey man what up couldn't agree more love my flex. I have the g3 as well, live it but still use my flex about 50 50 with my g3. Just can't seem to let it go haha. I would suggest the new Lg nexus 5x, it's a 1080 seems to fit what your looking for!

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Hey man what up couldn't agree more love my flex. I have the g3 as well, live it but still use my flex about 50 50 with my g3. Just can't seem to let it go haha. I would suggest the new Lg nexus 5x, it's a 1080 seems to fit what your looking for!
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that 2800 battery sux
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For about a week I was looking for a replacement for my g flex. None found. The only thing I wanted additional was a sd card and I was good. Replacement must have amoled and not a Samsung device. Everything I've seen is a downgrade in to many areas.

Nexus 6 would be my only comparable upgrade from the flex
Amoled, pretty respectable battery, it does have a crazy screen but once you use one, it's definitely not something you can easily forget. stock android, snapdragon 805, decent camera... other than that, I don't think there's anything that would be competing for my pocket in the "phablet" category.

I dropped my flex then dropped it some more and spider webbed the screen terribly bad. Was tired of the locked BL and decided I wanted to go back to the nexus line, had the first and the n4 and now the N6. The flex was relegated to a card playing toy. I started messing around with it again recently, and it is a nice unit. I am going to replace the screen/housing ($90~) and put it back in service. I have been trying to get the weather app off of it cause I really love it, screen saver too. Not going so well, but we'll see.

I kinda want to upgrade, the new chaos and order 2 performs horribly on it, but then I keep talking myself out of it cause its like "Your going to pay $400 just to play that one game?" everything else about it is perfect.

I'm in the same boat.. nothing to upgrade to! Nothing!!!! Well maybe Nexus 6 when the price comes down as of not I am not willing to pay what they ask. I am so desperate I am considering another Flex so I have a spare and just stay with it until someone makes a decent 6" phone I care to have. I sort of wish I stayed with 5.5" phones so I have many options to upgrade ..

I switched from my Flex to the Huawei Mate 7 -> best desicion ever. Better Screen, better Battery and Lollipop 5.1.1
I will never buy any LG product again after what LG did with the Flex and their "Updates". I will stay with Huawei

The only upgrade from the G-Flex would be going to the Huawei P8Max. I can't wait to buy it. For me, it would be the perfect AIO device.

and i think about buying a new flex instead of old flex

I love g flex. A year ago I bought lg g3 for contract ,when I open the box suddenly I think....no,no,no,I have to sell g3 and buy g flex. After a week I have g flex in my hands....?. 4 months later I buy another for my wife and she loved as well. My contract finish soon and I have no idea what to do. I read in the web that lg g flex 3 was cancelled and I dont se any mobile that suits me. I went to shop and have a look,and when I hold in hand couple phones (not curved) was strange feeling. I decided to buy lg g flex 2 for my wife and grab g flex from wife for me. Really Im not see any phone who gonna be so perfect like g flex,obviously they are better phones,with better camera,more storage but I don't give a f....,...g flex forever.

Seriously...
I've had this phone two years. I used to upgrade AT LEAST once a year. Something is telling me to get anther phone but there is nothing better out. I don't want a smaller, flat screen. I put in a Windows 8 launcher and live that, it almost feels like a new phone, but deep down I know it's still the same amazing hand set. Sucks, but then again, it doesn't. People still see out and I can tell they love it.

I've had my flex since 2013 now its time to let it go. I switched to the Note 4 for now. The Flex 2 was smaller than liked so I passed on it, but hope to come back to LG when they release the G5...
The Note 4 isnt that bad... metal frame, more ram, fingerprint scanner, better camera and sdcard again

It's 2017 - is the Moto X (2014) still recommended?

I've the chance to buy probably BNDS / BNIB units at the same cost as say more recent MT6737M/ Snapdragon 435 even MT6795 units with microsd, 64bit support.
I'm tempted by having the snapdragon 801 at a low cost but is it too late now expecially with the lack of 64bit support or does its raw power still relevant?
What would you do?

Moto X was a great device in its era. Even today I still praise it for the most compact device with a 5,2 inch screen. I can operate it easily with one hand. But,in today's standart,it's an outdated device. You got plenty devices with better specs and prices to choose. The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life. I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X and comparing both is so pathetic. Battery endurance in Redmi Note 4 is so much better. If Moto X is the device with 4000 mah battery, I think it's still countable. With custom ROM,Moto X is still fast and fluid. I prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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I don't even know how to root it to get sunshine. Kingroot doesnt work and sunshine says the firmware isnt compatible.

Absolutely......................................not. Look I love my X 2014 but it was a flawed device when it came out and that didn't let it age well. The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison. The lack of fingerprint sensor might not seem like a big deal but until you use it, you don't know what your missing. The phone is still smooth but how long until developers move on. The design in my opinion was still one of the best, a classic for sure. It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.

Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus

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huatz84 said:
prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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Yeah I had hoped that the overall experience is still preferable even taking into account its cons.
huatz84 said:
The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life.
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I'm of the mindset that I can offset this issuee with phone with lots of powerbank choices now.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison.
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This is disappointing -- 1 factor that makes me consider this is (since i had no real life experience with it) -- that the AMOLED screen and camera would still be competent to comparable models.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
...It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
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DustArma said:
Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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OK, if while considering all the above I add the relative context that in my area if available the G5 plus is 200USD, while the Moto X would be 110USD bnew, would that make it more appealing?

I've had mine for 2 years, and still loving it. I bought it in a carrier store for 400 Canadian Dollars. Since I can only buy phones in a store at full retail price, my choices are somewhat limited. I still can't find a "better" phone at $500 CAD. My Moto X 2014 is running the latest Android perfectly with 2GB RAM, and will run Android 8.0 Oreo (custom ROMs). The only consideration is band support, as it may not support the latest and fastest LTE bands used by some carriers nowadays. Also, this phone has NFC, some lower priced new phones may not.
The things I would be looking for in a new phone: longer battery life, latest LTE bands support, and maybe a bigger screen, like 5.5+ inch.

I just got that phone about 3 days ago... It is just amazing..remember.. It was a flagship.. Soft/hdw integratiom are perfect. Even with low battery and 2 gb of ram.. It's more worthy than several mid ranges phone mentioned. Besides, you get plenty of development for at least one more year.. Go for it!