I'm still running android 4.2.2(no otas) and I was wondering if root keep works in this device.
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Biom4st3r said:
I'm still running android 4.2.2(no otas) and I was wondering if root keep works in this device.
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You mean if you upgrade?
If you have an unlocked bootloader, yes, you can root and disable write protection no matter what ROM is on your X.
If you can't unlock your bootloader, then you are safe to install 4.2.2 with camera fix update, or 4.4 update. You can continue to use SlapMyMoto to root, and MotoWPNoMo to disable write protection.
BUT DO NOT install 4.4.2. If you have rooted with SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo and take the 4.4.2 OTA, you might keep root, but will lose the important Write Protection Disabled that MotoWpNoMo gave you, with no way to get it back. When Write Protection is enabled (the phone's default state with locked bootloader, or the state you are in after you take the 4.4.2 OTA), any changes made to /system, or the like, (including, but not limited to, App installs, file modifications, deletions, renames, etc) are not permanent and are lost at power off/on.
SlapMyMoto doesn't work on 4.4.2, and at this time, no new working root exploit and process has been released. And part of the 4.4.2 update patches the exploit that MotoWpNoMo used, so it wont work.
The 4.4.2 update also updates the bootloader which will prevent safely being able to downgrade the ROM version on your phone. If you try to flash 4.4. or lower, you will either brick your phone, or get it in a state where you will brick when taking an update.
So then I could still take the camera update as long as I don't go to 4.4?
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Biom4st3r said:
So then I could still take the camera update as long as I don't go to 4.4?
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You can still root 4.4 as well. Its 4.4.2 that You can't, and you'd want to stay away from if you have a locked bootloader.
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So then I could still take the camera update as long as I don't go to 4.4?
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You should check the stickies on that. The rooting methods have been updated a lot since pre camera 4.2.2 which is what you're on. Please read the stickies and Jcase's root threads as those are going to give you the best info.
Oh ok thank you both!
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Hello,
I have a 2012 nexus seven, do android 4.3 will work on it using normal android system upgrade from settings? Because it says that there isn't any update available.
And can I root the device normally afterwards?
And my data will be saved?
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Machlev said:
Hello,
I have a 2012 nexus seven, do android 4.3 will work on it using normal android system upgrade from settings? Because it says that there isn't any update available.
And can I root the device normally afterwards?
And my data will be saved?
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Over the air updates often take time to roll out. Give it time and the update will come.
Of course, you can root and flash a custom ROM based on 4.3, but unless you already have an unlocked bootloader, you will lose your data.
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mikeyd85 said:
Over the air updates often take time to roll out. Give it time and the update will come.
Of course, you can root and flash a custom ROM based on 4.3, but unless you already have an unlocked bootloader, you will lose your data.
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I have rooted my n7 without unlocking my bootloader. I'm using stock ROM. So my data will be saved?
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Machlev said:
I have rooted my n7 without unlocking my bootloader. I'm using stock ROM. So my data will be saved?
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You'll lose root, but so long as you made no changes to the preinstalled /system portion of the ROM, the OTA should run without killing any of your data.
Rirere said:
You'll lose root, but so long as you made no changes to the preinstalled /system portion of the ROM, the OTA should run without killing any of your data.
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OK, so tomorrow morning/afternoon I'll see the update?
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It can take a lot longer than that, several days or a few weeks sometimes.
I just installed the factory image on my Nexus 7, but this will delete all your data...
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You'll lose root, but so long as you made no changes to the preinstalled /system portion of the ROM, the OTA should run without killing any of your data.
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If he has Superuser he can download OTA Root Keeper off Google Play to keep root when he installs the OTA or if he uses SuperSU instead, the pro (paid) version has an option to protect root.
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Got the 4.3 upgrade OTA this morning but had to use the old trick.... "Google Services Framework > Force stop > clear data" to make it show up.
johnny15 said:
Got the 4.3 upgrade OTA this morning but had to use the old trick.... "Google Services Framework > Force stop > clear data" to make it show up.
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Been doing that all day no luck here.
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This is why it pays to have an unlocked bootloader.
You would be running 4.3, rooted, and no loss of data if you did.
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If he has Superuser he can download OTA Root Keeper off Google Play to keep root when he installs the OTA
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Not at this stage, it seems.
"It means preserving root with OTA Root Keeper won't be possible anymore as new rooting techniques rely on more than just a setuid su binary in /system."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241517
roshea66 said:
Not at this stage, it seems.
"It means preserving root with OTA Root Keeper won't be possible anymore as new rooting techniques rely on more than just a setuid su binary in /system."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1241517
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Yeah you are right. They updated their app to show it at the moment does not have 4.3 support. Rooting a Nexus device is easy enough, though, that I would not worry about it.
OTA link for Nakasi is posted over the OTA repository
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phonic said:
This is why it pays to have an unlocked bootloader.
You would be running 4.3, rooted, and no loss of data if you did.
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Fastboot oem unlock is the first I do when I get home with a new nexus device lol. Of course this thing has seen less than an few hours of stock ROMs in the past year lol.
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Just updated my nexus 7 via. OTA.
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Finally got the update this evening! Had a notification to say it'd downloaded and was ready to install, but I was in the middle of fixing a Play Store issue which meant removing and reinstating my Google account...
Of course, this meant that the notification disappeared and I'm still stuck on 4.2.2 with the manual update via 'About tablet' not working.
If it's downloaded, can I assume that it's still somewhere on my device? If not, will I possibly have to wait days or weeks to receive the update again?!
I'm not rooted by the way.
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Finally got the update this evening! Had a notification to say it'd downloaded and was ready to install, but I was in the middle of fixing a Play Store issue which meant removing and reinstating my Google account...
Of course, this meant that the notification disappeared and I'm still stuck on 4.2.2 with the manual update via 'About tablet' not working.
If it's downloaded, can I assume that it's still somewhere on my device? If not, will I possibly have to wait days or weeks to receive the update again?!
I'm not rooted by the way.
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Check your cache folder, should be there.
johnny15 said:
Got the 4.3 upgrade OTA this morning but had to use the old trick.... "Google Services Framework > Force stop > clear data" to make it show up.
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4 Days have passed and still no upgrade
What do I do? And I have rooted using motochopper without unlocking boot loader, so my data will be saved?
Should I use this?: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-to-android-4-3-jwr66v-and-root-it-right-now/
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Hey guys I have an unlocked bootloader and rooted device on 4.2.2. Just received ota update notification. If I proceed with the update will it keep root? When I updated via ota the past few times it kept root but with 4.3 I am unsure as I don't want to brick my device
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rkanwar said:
Hey guys I have an unlocked bootloader and rooted device on 4.2.2. Just received ota update notification. If I proceed with the update will it keep root? When I updated via ota the past few times it kept root but with 4.3 I am unsure as I don't want to brick my device
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No, not unless you install one of the 4.3 zips floating around XDA via custom TWRP recovery.
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I just ordered a Moto X Verizon, and I will be rooting it and flashing Eclipse rom onto it. Is there any reason not to take all the OTA updates from Verizon, and then root and do safestrap or? Not sure how it works. I
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Go read Jcase "slap my moto" thread in original development and after your done....read it again. The many posts in that thread have the answers your looking for pertaining to OTAs and what goes along with rooting the moto x on 4.4
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Do you have a dev edition?
No
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thrgk said:
No
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No custom rom for you then unless you install SafeStrap.
Yea I know I'd have to use safestrap. But is the latest OTA root able and safestrapable? Just wanted to be sure before I take the ota update from Verizon
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Safestrap is not KK compatible yet AFAIK.
And yes it is rootable. Good amount of work though.
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ok i got the moto x, its on 4.2.2 android, so should I take any OTA updates, or root from where I am?
thrgk said:
ok i got the moto x, its on 4.2.2 android, so should I take any OTA updates, or root from where I am?
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there is no know root explot for 4.4.. u have to root on 4.2.2.
on that note, I have used jcase's RockMyMoto to root mine and I get threw everything having root access and try to install the 4.4 OTA update and it keeps rebooting.. won't stop (on 5th time now?) ideas?
I flashed ML2 and I got issue with WiFi I really need root my phone to able flash a ROM
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A) answers don't always come in less than an hour. Sometimes they don't come at all. B) There is no ability to flash a ROM on an i537 as it has a locked bootloader. The only way to use a different ROM is with Safestrap. C) There is no root for the OTA 4.3. D) You need to use some periods and commas so your posts make some sense.
thanks I know the bootloader is locked and we can't get custom recovery the roots helps and fix alot of issues on android phones .. i used safestrap on MF1 with s4 Google Edition and Hyperdrive ROMs
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Then what was the point of starting this thread?
Needs are duly noted. Thread closed.
Now that we have root for 4.4, I'm planning to upgrade from 4.3 to 4.4, but I haven't come across any simple method to do it. Mazdamiata has a method to do it, but it requires downgrading to MJ5, which would be a huge inconvenience. My update fails at 27% even with all the original apps restored and unfrozen. I have Xposed installed and my device is rooted with Kingo. Any suggestions?
I'm with you! I sat down and wanted to upgrade to kit Kat but following those directions were not easy for me. I am now stuck on 4.3 until there is an easier way to get there. What stinks is there isn't even a YouTube video to show how to go back to mj5 and the upgrade
Isn't there any other solution to safely upgrade without reverting to MJ5?
here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712039
kobeback said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712039
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Thanks, but it's not a simple method and has steps to install other components which increase the complexity.
Is the best way just to factory reset my device, retain the root and then try to upgrade?
Factory reset then upgrade to kit kat then root with towelroot
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antawnm26 said:
Factory reset then upgrade to kit kat then root with towelroot
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I don't think it's that easy. Please try and let us know if factory reset they update works?
It won't there is a thread in the general section that tells you how to do it
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antawnm26 said:
Factory reset then upgrade to kit kat then root with towelroot
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Did that work for you?
No I didn't do it exactly that way....I wasn't rooted at all
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You could go to a best buy and request them to reflash it for you.
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mrkhigh said:
You could go to a best buy and request them to reflash it for you.
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I went to best buy and they said since I was rooted the could not re flash
Unroot?
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doesn't Kingo give you the option to UnRoot?
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I've wondered if we undid whatever frozen apps ect then used the kingo unroot if we would get the ability to upgrade.
Kingo renamed some files and installed a few
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mrkhigh said:
I've wondered if we undid whatever frozen apps ect then used the kingo unroot if we would get the ability to upgrade.
Kingo renamed some files and installed a few
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thats exactly what im currently trying. i went into tibu, did a batch unfreeze, then used kingo to unroot. restarted and am now downloading the update. hopefully it will get me up to kitkat and let me root again with towelroot.
Let us know if it works then all I have to do is unfreeze the updater apo and unroot with kingo
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nope didn't work... it would download, then when it tries to install the update, it stops at about 24%, reboots and gives an error saying update interrupted.
I tried manually doing it also by putting the update file on SD card and applying in recovery mode... it starts, errors, and wiped my data....
the only way seems to be the harder way heh
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There is a thread that talked about what files to rename and delete but nobody ever got it written down perfectly
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So I'm planning to root my X for the first time and I'm on stock 5.1.
As long as I remain on stock the moto features do not get affected right?
Also, if I am on stock rom but rooted, will it affect any future OTA?
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The stock features remain unchanged after root.
You can't take an ota with root. You have to be 100% stock for updates to work.
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Its worth noting that you can just fastboot flash the system prior to taking an OTA to allow it. No need for a full factory reset or anything.
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AGISCI said:
The stock features remain unchanged after root.
You can't take an ota with root. You have to be 100% stock for updates to work.
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There you go. 100th thanks
Also, how do I check the status of my bootloader? I've got a pure edition. Pardon me for the stupid question but I've never used a device other than a Samsung which were pretty straight forward to root.
If by any chance I need to come back to stock rom what would the steps for that be?
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xKroniK13x said:
Its worth noting that you can just fastboot flash the system prior to taking an OTA to allow it. No need for a full factory reset or anything.
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Alright!
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pulley06 said:
There you go. 100th thanks
Also, how do I check the status of my bootloader? I've got a pure edition. Pardon me for the stupid question but I've never used a device other than a Samsung which were pretty straight forward to root.
If by any chance I need to come back to stock rom what would the steps for that be?
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1) Power off phone; 2) Tap and briefly hold Power and Volume Down. The bootloader version will show at the top of the next screen.