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Hey guys, I know that I don't post a lot but I couldn't help but notice that no one has put up and overclock program for the kaiser. The Kaiser after installing the overclock program, everything ran smoother!!!!!
Instructions:
1. Run Dynamic Clock.cab and install to Device
2. GO to Start > Dynamic Clock
3. tap the screen to install Dynamic Clock
4. after you restart, Go to Settings>System
5.There should now be a new option "Processor"
6.first time running, there will be a warning message, tap yes
7. Feel free to change the options around
8. Try running programs and stuff after changing the settings, you should be able to notice the speed difference!
I use Max performance on both battery and external power and the MHz is on 384 MHZ and auto power. after system idle and all the stuff after, its 192.00MHz
xhackerx said:
Hey guys, I know that I don't post a lot but I couldn't help but notice that no one has put up and overclock program for the kaiser. The Kaiser after installing the overclock program, everything ran smoother!!!!!
Instructions:
1. Run Dynamic Clock.cab and install to Device
2. GO to Start > Dynamic Clock
3. tap the screen to install Dynamic Clock
4. after you restart, Go to Settings>System
5.There should now be a new option "Processor"
6.first time running, there will be a warning message, tap yes
7. Feel free to change the options around
8. Try running programs and stuff after changing the settings, you should be able to notice the speed difference!
I use Max performance on both battery and external power and the MHz is on 384 MHZ and auto power. after system idle and all the stuff after, its 192.00MHz
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well done mate good post! thanks
Hmm, I downloaded the cab per instructions, found the icon, and tried to install. It just keeps freezing with an error message saying my device is blocking installation, do you want to reset? I select yes and it freezes up. I have to remove the battery.
try installing the attached .cab file on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36325&d=1175416351
same problem here...also tryied the second file and it returns a message "the install on your device was unsuccesfull"any ideas?i'm running the official rom!
dukeofdream said:
same problem here...also tryied the second file and it returns a message "the install on your device was unsuccesfull"any ideas?i'm running the official rom!
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Probably due to security provisions of stock ROM not allowing install.
is there a way to bypass this?
If it's running a driver in there normally not, if just a signing issue that's causing the problem sdkcerts can help.
Have never run a stock ROM for longer than a day so not 100% sure on stock just know due to releasing drivers and not being installed along with edited resources.
thanks a lot man...sdkcerts did the job...the program installed correctly...just rebooted after the install...i will post if it works ok!thanks again!
the program starts fine...then a big amount of errors pop up...one of them :"a problem has occured with services.exe" send, don't send buttons available...i will flash a new rom today and try it...can you point me to the fastes rom around?i want something visually good but fast...
Thank you! This great, but about a week ago i googled overclocking the kaiser, and all i could get was a handful of sites saying that the kaiser could not be over clocked.
dukeofdream said:
the program starts fine...then a big amount of errors pop up...one of them :"a problem has occured with services.exe" send, don't send buttons available...i will flash a new rom today and try it...can you point me to the fastes rom around?i want something visually good but fast...
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Same problem here dunno why this doesn't work, anyone figure this out?
from advanced configuration, disable security warning.
its in the misc category...
Whats the benchmark results for overclocking the kaiser?
After fixing some lags with I/O system by using filesystem LagFix I still have a Lag problem in my system and I think it's not related to Samsung.
I think this could be an Android problem.
After a fresh reboot I get 124MB of free RAM.
BUT... every day I need to reboot the phone because after 3 hours it became laggy.
Now I analysed this and read a bit about the memory management on several forums and was able to reproduce the lag 2minutes after reboot.
I just need to use much applications one after another to raise the RAM usage for every application.
When the free RAM reaches 40MB I think the system clears some pieces for using it for the app I now want to use and there is the LAG.
Is there any fix for Android not caching every activity of an application in the RAM?
Now for me Android feels like: Usage -> Full RAM -> Lag
Sorry for the new thread but after 2 hours of research I didn't find anything useful over search function.
Yea, every program should have as much ram available as their size. 2gig for program storage on sgs, so there should be the same amount of ram ;D Anyway, theres still less memory for programs on the sgs than for example in the N1. I'd say there is about 384MB of ram total on the sgs and not the 512 claimed.
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Not just the RAM for the apps... there's much more...all mails from internet, all google talk conversations, the wather I checked out from internet with any widget, feels like every interaction is cached into the RAM until it reaches the 40mb mark and after that every interaction on my system is laggy... for example: opening the notification bar needs 2-3 seconds.
I already talked to N1 users with the same problem
DasLeo said:
I already talked to N1 users with the same problem
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Heading out the door in a minute so can't comment on the rest, but I strongly disagree with that part of your statement.
As an N1 owner I've NEVER seen lag like I suffer on the SGS. Never seen the absolute FREEZE in the GUI like the SGS gets.
I'm running FroYo on the N1 now, so can't compare side-by-side to the SGS things like memory usage, but I don't think that's the issue here if you're going to use the N1 as a comparison, despite other users complaining of lag.
You might try Autokiller or the free memory manager app from the Market and see if that improves thing, they'll keep more or less memory free depending on settings. You could test how soon lag comes with default, minimal, and aggressive settings.
I never testet Froyo because everyone said, it's unstable but for me it seems like froyo has other RAM management than Eclair when you said you can't reproduce this problem.
I'm already using a task killer... I have my main apps ignored or excluded and most time there are 2 or 3 apps which will be killed after lock or time or what else.
What's the problem here... if I would use a PC with 512MB RAM and use only 10 small applications, it won't cache everything in the ram until it's full.
Hi, didn't read all the posts, but u should look into the RFS file system, which is samsung proprietery file system. It has a very bad implementation on android (i could be wrong). As for ram, the phone has 512 mb, but 128 are reserved for Gsm/data connection. Just think if you had an incoming call and all your ram was in use, u had to wait for the system to clear up some memory before being able to receive the call physiclly. That would be a long wait.
I could be wrong and sorry for the bad english.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Have you ever tried "Minfreemanager" app?
It can change the minimum available memory level in different app usage.
The device must be rooted first.
Then select "Aggressive" preset and see the result.
rkantos said:
. I'd say there is about 384MB of ram total on the sgs and not the 512 claimed.
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If this turns out to be true, samsung is up for a massive lawsuit from MANY angry customers who've been mislead due to false marketing
tra33372 said:
Have you ever tried "Minfreemanager" app?
It can change the minimum available memory level in different app usage.
The device must be rooted first.
Then select "Aggressive" preset and see the result.
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DAMN!!! Nice app... it does exactly what I need cleans my RAM so I'll get 120MB and after that loading of apps is much faster than starting apps with Android included RAM cleaning.
It just cleans my RAM like a reboot but without the reboot
This should be a temporary solution until someone finds a better solution or until froyo is released.
I would like to have an application like this with an autoclean option on 2 hours
Guys please,
Getting off-topic here. Here is Android Development.
Not Q&A or General.
Please post in the right section.
Here is getting too many off-topics that pose no relation to Android Development.
Too cluttered.
Thanks
DasLeo said:
DAMN!!! Nice app... it does exactly what I need cleans my RAM so I'll get 120MB and after that loading of apps is much faster than starting apps with Android included RAM cleaning.
It just cleans my RAM like a reboot but without the reboot
This should be a temporary solution until someone finds a better solution or until froyo is released.
I would like to have an application like this with an autoclean option on 2 hours
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Auto killer is better.Its exactly the same as minfreemanager but can be made to apply at boot.Minfree manager resets itself at boot.
I use Memory Booster Lite (free version) app to free up memory, must do that manually but it works very well, if you buy the app it free up memory automaticly.
Pika007 said:
If this turns out to be true, samsung is up for a massive lawsuit from MANY angry customers who've been mislead due to false marketing
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The phone does have 512mb of ram. It just isn't used properly.
MOJO783010 said:
Hi, didn't read all the posts, but u should look into the RFS file system, which is samsung proprietery file system. It has a very bad implementation on android (i could be wrong). As for ram, the phone has 512 mb, but 128 are reserved for Gsm/data connection. Just think if you had an incoming call and all your ram was in use, u had to wait for the system to clear up some memory before being able to receive the call physiclly. That would be a long wait.
I could be wrong and sorry for the bad english.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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No, wrong. The reserved ram is in the form of a ram disk, which seems to be a bit oversized. Not really sure why a ram disk is needed at all, personally.
sammy555 said:
Auto killer is better.Its exactly the same as minfreemanager but can be made to apply at boot.Minfree manager resets itself at boot.
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This is the correct solution. the JF* series of firmwares have very bad default settings for killing unused apps. Use this app to set them a bit better and you shouldn't have any problems.
Pika007 said:
If this turns out to be true, samsung is up for a massive lawsuit from MANY angry customers who've been mislead due to false marketing
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It does have 512 of ram, but some is partitioned off for the phone, so that you can always receive phone calls. Just about every device does this, because users would be more upset if they couldn't pick up the phone until they had closed a bundle of running programs. Don't you think that people here would have noticed earlier if the SGS physically had less ram than claimed ?
As far as the OP is concerned, sounds like you are just running too many programs at once. Its not an android problem, its user error.
Any task manager, but particularly an auto-killer will set you right, although alternatively you could try not leaving every app open when you're finished with it. You think your PC would run ok if you left one game open while you opened another ?
DasLeo said:
I never testet Froyo because everyone said, it's unstable but for me it seems like froyo has other RAM management than Eclair when you said you can't reproduce this problem.
I'm already using a task killer... I have my main apps ignored or excluded and most time there are 2 or 3 apps which will be killed after lock or time or what else.
What's the problem here... if I would use a PC with 512MB RAM and use only 10 small applications, it won't cache everything in the ram until it's full.
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I wasn't comparing a N1 on FroYo to the SGS on Eclair. My comments were in regard to when I was on Eclair, which was several months...FroYo's only been available for a couple of months. What I said was since I'm on FroYo now, I can't compare side-by-side, but my experience with an N1 on Eclair was never any lag problem or GUI freezes.
Anyways, I also suggested you try Autokiller, and you missed that or misunderstood it by saying you already run a Task Killer (which is generally considered a bad idea, but I see you picked up on Autokiller after someone else suggested it. Enjoy.
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Nah, all phones advertise the actual chip size in it, not the amount the system actually lets you use.
tra33372 said:
Have you ever tried "Minfreemanager" app?
It can change the minimum available memory level in different app usage.
The device must be rooted first.
Then select "Aggressive" preset and see the result.
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Thank you. This removes almost all lag I'm experiencing.
Hello evry one. I have problem in my captivate and other models of android. I installed almost every custom rom but problem of loading apps fast still exist. What i mean is.. that when i on my mobile, so first time apps like calender, messenging etc take a little time to load. than when i close the app and open again, it loads very quickly. When mobile goes to standby for more than 10 mins, and when i on it, it again take little time to load apps, and widget menu etc.
Why it is like that ??? and whats the solution to always load the apps quickly
majidshahab091 said:
Hello evry one. I have problem in my captivate and other models of android. I installed almost every custom rom but problem of loading apps fast still exist. What i mean is.. that when i on my mobile, so first time apps like calender, messenging etc take a little time to load. than when i close the app and open again, it loads very quickly. When mobile goes to standby for more than 10 mins, and when i on it, it again take little time to load apps, and widget menu etc.
Why it is like that ??? and whats the solution to always load the apps quickly
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It's how Android manages memory. It keeps your apps in memory until it needs to free some, at which point it starts to close apps to free some up. If they're already in memory they open fast because they're already open. If they aren't, they open more slowly.
There's not a ton you can do, really. Some 3rd party sms apps let you lock the app in memory, but I honestly never checked to see if it really works or not.
Personally, I restart my phone every morning when I wake up. This frees up the most memory and allows your phone to leave more apps open before closing them.
make sure you arent running any ****ty task killers.
You could flash an I9000 ROM/kernel that let's you tweak the lmk. (low memory killer)
Talon and semaphore both offer that option.
The trick is to make it weak enough to not kill the apps you want, but aggressive enough to not allow to run out of ram completely.
both of those kernels also have a "bigmem" version that gives the user a bit more ram at the cost of being able to record video in 720p.
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You could flash an I9000 ROM/kernel that let's you tweak the lmk. (low memory killer)
Talon and semaphore both offer that option.
The trick is to make it weak enough to not kill the apps you want, but aggressive enough to not allow to run out of ram completely.
both of those kernels also have a "bigmem" version that gives the user a bit more ram at the cost of being able to record video in 720p.
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I like ur answrr. But can u pls guide me abt lmk. I like this idea but never use such tweaks. I m using talon kernel right now and rom is much fast. But have same prb of apps loading
In the app memory freak, that installed with the kernel, there is a slider for you to adjust,
lower number the more aggressive the lmk but the better the overall performance.
Higher number is less aggressive and is better for multitasking, but can be a bit slower.
studacris said:
In the app memory freak, that installed with the kernel, there is a slider for you to adjust,
lower number the more aggressive the lmk but the better the overall performance.
Higher number is less aggressive and is better for multitasking, but can be a bit slower.
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Where to find app memory freak ? i haven't seen any option in CWM
Should have been installed when you flashed talon. If not, it should be linked in the talon op.
As promised earlier that I would share my work and yes I stand by that promise. The modified CPU editor script.
CREDITSsmokin1337 The original creator of the scriptupnndwn4par For his support
todobarato For suggesting optimization which was really useful
ONLY FOR ATRIX 4G Running ICSROM or ATRICS
The usual warnings. Do not blame me for bricked phones. This is still under testing phase and I need testers.
Please donot PM me with the results, Post them here in this forum
New Version
Added an optimization suggested by todobarato (thanks!!) Works fine. The only problem still is the sticky bit issue. Still Working on it
Download the New Version Here.
Instructions
1. Flash in CWM
2. Reboot
3. The script should start working on its own (Doesn't Work for now)
Open terminal > "auto-cpu" (Without quotes)
And also please let me know if the CPU frequencies are reverting at boot or not?
Changes Made
1. The original script by smokin1337 is kept intact , so advanced users can still use the script as usual.
2. The modifications automatically shutdown one of the cores when its not required.
So please go ahead test it and let me know results.
Anyone is welcome to help and provide suggestion or even modify this and contribute.
deathscream said:
As promised earlier that I would share my work and yes I stand by that promise. The modified CPU editor script.
CREDITSsmokin1337 The original creator of the scriptupnndwn4par For his support
ONLY FOR ATRIX 4G Running ICSROM or ATRICS
The usual warnings. Do not blame me for bricked phones. This is still under testing phase and I need testers coz I just lost my phone to my girlfriend for a week
Please donot PM me with the results, Post them here in this forum
Download the attachment.
Instructions
1. Flash in CWM
2. Reboot
3. The script should start working on its own (Couldn't test it , Sorry guys)
And also please let me know if the CPU frequencies are reverting at boot or not?
Changes Made
1. The original script by smokin1337 is kept intact , so advanced users can still use the script as usual.
2. The modifications automatically shutdown one of the cores when its not required.
So please go ahead test it and let me know results.
Anyone is welcome to help and provide suggestion or even modify this and contribute.
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Thanks for your job
I try it..to take off one cpu I have do it manually..on reboot the cpu starts both
andrea_marcello said:
Thanks for your job
I try it..to take off one cpu I have do it manually..on reboot the cpu starts both
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Yes I got those same results from others. Can you try using SManager and select the script /system/xbin/auto-cpu and let me know of the results.
Thanks!
what is this for?
and how do i know if it is working or not?
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what is this for?
and how do i know if it is working or not?
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It allows CPU mods without using an app (which of course uses battery).
You can change min/max frequencies on each core individually. You can even take one of the cores offline completely. Running on one core is not noticeably different from two for routine use. I hardly see a difference. I can't give any hard number for the increase in battery life since I have only been using it for less than two days. But battery life is definitely better.
There is some more info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34427620&postcount=785
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deathscream,
I just tried it. The script is not running automatically as far as I can tell. I am not seeing the second core shutting down.
Thanks, and keep up the good work.
I'll look into it. I just got my phone back. Now I can test it without any problems.
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Hello,
I am following this and I think you are complicating it to much.
I have test this script and the original and it never disable the 2nd core.
If you will disable it is very easy with the following command as su: echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/online
The only issue is that it comes online very fast again and you have to execute the command again... I have found the script that disable the 2nd core but only when the screen off, this isn't our problem, by CPU-spy it show deep-sleep is working.
I have changed the script to disable the 2nd core when the CPU frequency is under 350Mhz, this check every X second (I use 35seconds, this can be changed) , now the second core is offline when it detects low CPU frequency and stay offline, if you need it again I have observed after switch off and on again the screen it comes back online or by open set-CPU(I have it on widget to check CPU temp) if you have. If you use one very CPU intensive app comes only by itself too.
I put the script on /system/etc change the correct permission, run with SDmanager.
The script is:
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#!/system/bin/sh
#
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while [ 1 ]
do
CPU0=`cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq`;
if [ $CPU0 -lt "350000" ]; then && echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/online;
fi;
sleep 35
done
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I hope this help, I am using it on CM7 and work better that I have expected.
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Thanks a lot. Will try it out.
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It' dont work for me automatically after reboot.
I use the terminal to put the values by myself
It's a great tool.
Thanks for the work
Regards
You have a lot of features about OC on Atrix (scripts) here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23715720
And here
http://forum.frandroid.com/topic/93255-autoucuv-forcage-cpu-et-oc-uv-gpu/
And here
http://forum.frandroid.com/index.php?/topic/105205-[APP]-✖-AtrixTweaks-(19/08/12)#entry1701606
it works but not automatically. i noticed a little battery increase. from 12hrs i got about 15 hrs uptime running latest icsrom.
fabianowerner said:
it works but not automatically. i noticed a little battery increase. from 12hrs i got about 15 hrs uptime running latest icsrom.
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Yes. I tried it . The script doesn't run automatically. The sticky bit setting is driving me nuts. haven't slept the whole night. adding this to userinit also doesn't work , so I guess the only way would be try upacking the booimage, ramdisk and adding to the init.rc . I'll try running that there. That should probably work. But can't say for sure.
relax dude... even with the 2nd core disabled, the battery life had increased just a little almost insignificant hours. im pretty sure that we will have this serious issue solved only if someone can put hands on another ics kernel or this leaked kernel source.
fabianowerner said:
relax dude... even with the 2nd core disabled, the battery life had increased just a little almost insignificant hours. im pretty sure that we will have this serious issue solved only if someone can put hands on another ics kernel or this leaked kernel source.
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Yeah. Hope for the best . Released a new version. It's not automated but its even better working. The cores are managed better than the original one.
deathscream said:
Yeah. Hope for the best . Released a new version. It's not automated but its even better working. The cores are managed better than the original one.
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I just released a new version of ICSROM with init.d support.
It might help with your automation.
upndwn4par said:
I just released a new version of ICSROM with init.d support.
It might help with your automation.
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Perfect. I'll check it. At work now. Thanks!
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Perfect. I'll check it. At work now. Thanks!
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Thank you for your support!
I'm testing the new version on AOKP (not suggested, I know ) and it seems that doesn't switch well the cores status.....I'm able to set a maximum cpu1 settings but not it doesn't really applies it.
Within my tests I can see that the 2nd core is not so much important....I can play Riptide GP and Shine Runner (heavy games??? ) plus others apps with only 1 core without any noticeable lags...so
I'd like to ask you if you can make a unique profile and cut off other settings:
cpu0 @ 1ghz max, variable
cpu1 @ 456mhz max, variable (enabled only if cpu0 is @ 1ghz more than 5/10 seconds)
screen-off: cpu0 456mhz max, cpu1 disabled.
Thanks a lot for the suggestion. I'll definitely try adding those.
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If disabling a core is not fetching significant battery increase in leaked rom(s) then efforts to streamline sampling would we worthless as primary issue of battery drain would not get solved.
This came as a surprise as the second core was suspected to be the mAh drainer. Maybe it could be the GPU that runs at max..
After a long amount of observation, I found out that shutting down a core isn't reducing the battery drain. There is something more to it. Thanks to upndwn4par to release icsrom 1.4.5 so that I could test my scripts... I'm still working on the battery drain issue and will let you guys know the progress soon.
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Guys, I need a help. Tried everything, but still facing big lag especially when I click on dialer, contacts or messages (waiting couple of secs until they show up). This is more obvious when I click right after I 'woke up' my phone from deep sleep.
I'm using stock 20b with Iodak v8 kernel (tried v9 as well, but due to bluetooth and fm radio issue on stock, reverted to v8). Also, I did everything what I could found to improve performace: disabled and then deleted MLT, did a full wipe of everything (clean install), installed only apps that I need, turned off 3g, data and gps (only WiFi is on), installed Greenify and so on..
My current setup of kernel is following:
Governor: interactive (tried ondemand, but was even worst)
Max: 1600000
Min/Max Screen Off: 760000
Scheduler: SIO
CPUQuiet Power: userspace (noticed that only 3 cores are online instead of 4)
I appreciate any help, but please, don't tell me to search, 'cause I did. As for the other custom roms, I tried CM, but I prefer more stock, mostly because of Gallery, Polaris and FM Radio Apps.
Guys, is there any way to fix this lag issue? I don't care much for the battery, since this lag drives me crazy.
Thanks in advance.
Vladimir
vladja10 said:
Guys, I need a help. Tried everything, but still facing big lag especially when I click on dialer, contacts or messages (waiting couple of secs until they show up). This is more obvious when I click right after I 'woke up' my phone from deep sleep.
I'm using stock 20b with Iodak v8 kernel (tried v9 as well, but due to bluetooth and fm radio issue on stock, reverted to v8). Also, I did everything what I could found to improve performace: disabled and then deleted MLT, did a full wipe of everything (clean install), installed only apps that I need, turned off 3g, data and gps (only WiFi is on), installed Greenify and so on..
My current setup of kernel is following:
Governor: interactive (tried ondemand, but was even worst)
Max: 1600000
Min/Max Screen Off: 760000
Scheduler: SIO
CPUQuiet Power: userspace (noticed that only 3 cores are online instead of 4)
I appreciate any help, but please, don't tell me to search, 'cause I did. As for the other custom roms, I tried CM, but I prefer more stock, mostly because of Gallery, Polaris and FM Radio Apps.
Guys, is there any way to fix this lag issue? I don't care much for the battery, since this lag drives me crazy.
Thanks in advance.
Vladimir
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This is "normal" for system apps. Download custom apps from google store like ExDialer,GOSms.. That will resolve your lag.. When you install those apps from store, use titanium backup to freeze stock apps(dialer,contacts,messages).
@vladja10 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49272503&postcount=1986
Thanks guys, but neither of these two options helped. There's some improvements, but still pretty much laggy.
Think I found out what causing lag: synchronization. Every time when phone is synchronizing, everything is so laggy, otherwise is ok. Following accounts have sync turned on: Skype, Facebook, WhatsApp, Twitter and Google.
Does anyone of you have experienced similar problem? Is there solution for this?
vladja10 said:
Think I found out what causing lag: synchronization. Every time when phone is synchronizing, everything is so laggy, otherwise is ok. Following accounts have sync turned on: Skype, Facebook, WhatsApp, Twitter and Google.
Does anyone of you have experienced similar problem? Is there solution for this?
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I have all those apps running in my phone, but I did not face those lags.
But ya I did felt those lags when I'm still using stock JB OS. Stock JB from LG is sucks man, you should instal another ROM.
Currently I'm using CM11 (Kitkat 4.4.2 based), its lag free and have more free RAM. (around 350 - 400MB). :good:
The difference is like heaven and hell compared with the stock ROM (I only have 150 - 200MB Free RAM).
bomerzz said:
I have all those apps running in my phone, but I did not face those lags.
But ya I did felt those lags when I'm still using stock JB OS. Stock JB from LG is sucks man, you should instal another ROM.
Currently I'm using CM11 (Kitkat 4.4.2 based), its lag free and have more free RAM. (around 350 - 400MB). :good:
The difference is like heaven and hell compared with the stock ROM (I only have 150 - 200MB Free RAM).
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The ROM can make a difference, but it has nothing to do with "Free RAM". I wish people would stop perpetuating this myth.
Free RAM is wasted memory on an Android device. Unless you are getting below about 50MB there is not a problem as the device is designed to use as much as it can and then swap it out automatically.
I agree about CM11 though. I'm running the latest nightly and the only problem I have is the delay in waking when you press the power button
SimonTS said:
The ROM can make a difference, but it has nothing to do with "Free RAM". I wish people would stop perpetuating this myth.
Free RAM is wasted memory on an Android device. Unless you are getting below about 50MB there is not a problem as the device is designed to use as much as it can and then swap it out automatically.
I agree about CM11 though. I'm running the latest nightly and the only problem I have is the delay in waking when you press the power button
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Well.. Sorry for my false statement and thank you for correcting it
4X HD is my very first android device. But that's what I really thought after I flashed the CM11.. Its like whoa, more free space on RAM, and it feels like I'm using a new phone
bomerzz said:
Well.. Sorry for my false statement and thank you for correcting it
4X HD is my very first android device. But that's what I really thought after I flashed the CM11.. Its like whoa, more free space on RAM, and it feels like I'm using a new phone
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You might want a read of this;-
RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care
Well, I’m afraid that I’ll be forced to get back to CM (used it once, but missed some apps such are: FM Radio, stock gallery app (couldn’t find good replacement that synced photos with google acc) and Polaris Office – these apps I use on a daily basis). Anyway, before install CM, I’ll give one more try to Stock.
I did what @ottomanhero told me, and that actually helped. But, since I used Trickstermod to tweak governors, after every single reboot, stock values would be back, so I had to use init.d script, and there comes a problem.
Here is what I did (followed instructions from Iodak's OP):
- Using ES File Explorer created folder /system/etc/init.d and set permissions to rwxr-xr-x
- Created new file in init.d folder and name it 1script (used Note++ instead of Windows editors to avoid leaving an extra space at the end of each line or an invisible invalid character)
- Then added following commands:
Code:
#!/system/bin/sh
echo "70" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/interactive/go_maxspeed_load
echo "70" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/interactive/midrange_go_maxspeed_load
echo "60000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/interactive/min_sample_time
echo "20000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/interactive/timer_rate
echo 200 300 400 450 500 600 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/gpu_overclock
- and finally set permissions to 1script rwxr-xr-x and owner to root group to shell
So, that should be it, but didn’t work for me. Then, I installed SManager to check what’s wrong with the script, and it stated that with first 4 lines error is: no such file or directory (which is strange because exactly that's the path), and for the last line is stated: permission denied.
Did I miss something? Apologize if this question is too noob for you guys, but I’m running out of ideas.
Thanks all for your help.
Regards,
Vladimir
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You might want a read of this;-
RAM: What it is, how it's used, and why you shouldn't care
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Oh, really?
Free RAM is NOT wasted RAM.
It directly effects smoothness of the phone.Why do you think android would have Out Of Memory values if it was created to just fill up the RAM with only apps? It still needs some RAM free for caching.
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vladja10 said:
Well, I’m afraid that I’ll be forced to get back to CM (used it once, but missed some apps such are: FM Radio, stock gallery app (couldn’t find good replacement that synced photos with google acc) and Polaris Office – these apps I use on a daily basis). Anyway, before install CM, I’ll give one more try to Stock.
I did what @ottomanhero told me, and that actually helped. But, since I used Trickstermod to tweak governors, after every single reboot, stock values would be back, so I had to use init.d script, and there comes a problem.
- and finally set permissions to 1script rwxr-xr-x and owner to root group to shell
So, that should be it, but didn’t work for me. Then, I installed SManager to check what’s wrong with the script, and it stated that with first 4 lines error is: no such file or directory (which is strange because exactly that's the path), and for the last line is stated: permission denied.
Did I miss something? Apologize if this question is too noob for you guys, but I’m running out of ideas.
Thanks all for your help.
Regards,
Vladimir
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Code:
#!/system/bin/sh
echo "70" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/interactive/go_maxspeed_load
echo "70" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/interactive/midrange_go_maxspeed_load
echo "60000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/interactive/min_sample_time
echo "20000" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/interactive/timer_rate
echo "200 300 400 450 500 600" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/gpu_overclock
I think the script didn't execute at boot due to last line, you forgot the quotes.And while using Smanager you gotta tick "root" or else it won't run.Try this one
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I think the script didn't execute at boot due to last line, you forgot the quotes.And while using Smanager you gotta tick "root" or else it won't run.Try this one
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Well, you were right about the quotes (now, the new values are set), but as the other 4 lines, they still have the same error: No such file or directory, and all values are stock.
Do you have any idea what's going on? Why did it work for one, and didn't for the other lines?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48042187#post48042187
ottomanhero said:
Oh, really?
Free RAM is NOT wasted RAM.
It directly effects smoothness of the phone.Why do you think android would have Out Of Memory values if it was created to just fill up the RAM with only apps? It still needs some RAM free for caching.
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As I stated in my first post;-
Unless you are getting below about 50MB there is not a problem
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Of course you need some free memory, but not hundreds of MBs of it. I notice that you pointed the same XDA quote that is used and linked to by lots of different sites when this is being discussed. To use someone else's quote - better written than I could do so myself;-
In the most simplistic terms, here is how it works, and why "free RAM is wasted RAM," but also, why you don't want all RAM in use at any given time.
If an application is not in memory when you try to open it, that application haa to be loaded into memory, thus triggering a "load time." Having the application in memory (prefetched) prevents this load time and has the application load near insantly. This is why a modern OS will preload our most commonly used applications into memory. The more memory that you have, the more applications that can be preloaded, the smoother your device will run. Clearing this memory gives you no immeidate benefit, and will actually slow your device. Idle applications in memory consume almost no resources (CPU cycles, battery power, etc.). If an application is consuming resources, that means that it is doing something. Closing it will only force the application to re-load. Using a task killer for this purpose will cause a "boxing match" where the task killer closes the application, the app reopens itself, and back and forth. THIS will consume resources.
However, you want to have some memory free. Your devices will not have enough memory to preload EVERY application, so it has to guess based on your actions. It needs to have enough memory available to quickly load an app that you may want.
Let's say that you want to load an application that requires 256MB of RAM, but you only have 128MB available. This means that the OS is going to try to clear 128MB of RAM to accomodate your app, and as your app loads, will try to clear another 128MB to return to its previous state. This clear/load/clear causes a longer load time and more slowdown than just loading an app not already in memory.
So, the ideal situation is to have most common apps in memory (pre-fetched), but enough memory available to handle 1-2 common apps that are not already pre-loaded. Touchwiz (Samsung) devices allow you to clear memory from the task manager. My S2 had about 870MB of user-available RAM, and if I trashed all apps, it would go as low as 300MB in use. This may look cool, but it is a complete waste of resources, and the OS is simply going to re-load those apps over the next 2-3 minutes anyway. And if you use a task killer to keep your device idling at 300MB of available RAM? This is simply going to slow down the device, harm the battery, and give you the same memory performance and availability that you would get with an HTC G1.
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As the OP was stating that "I only have 150 - 200MB Free RAM" with the Stock ROM, that is definitely NOT what is causing a lag issue. If you have that much free memory (before Android goes caching stuff and not declaring it of course) then you are absolutely fine on any Android device there is.
vladja10 said:
Well, you were right about the quotes (now, the new values are set), but as the other 4 lines, they still have the same error: No such file or directory, and all values are stock.
Do you have any idea what's going on? Why did it work for one, and didn't for the other lines?
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Maybe your partitions aren't mounted.I took these lines from pimp my rom init.d script.Create another script but it has to come before the governor tweaks script.
#!/system/bin/sh
busybox mount -o remount,noatime,noauto_da_alloc,nodiratime,barrier =0,nobh /system
busybox mount -o remount,noatime,noauto_da_alloc,nosuid,nodev,nodir atime,barrier=0,nobh /data
busybox mount -o remount,noatime,noauto_da_alloc,nosuid,nodev,nodir atime,barrier=0,nobh /cache
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For example, name this script "93Mount" and name the governor script "94Governor" so the mounting script will be executed before governor script.
ottomanhero said:
Maybe your partitions aren't mounted.I took these lines from pimp my rom init.d script.Create another script but it has to come before the governor tweaks script.
For example, name this script "93Mount" and name the governor script "94Governor" so the mounting script will be executed before governor script.
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Well, I did like you said and here's what I got:
Code:
exec /system/bin/sh '/etc/init.d/93Mount'
h '/etc/init.d/93Mount' <
failed: No such file or directory
failed: No such file or directorybh on /data
mount: mounting atime,barrier=0,nobh on /cache failed: Invalid argument
Any idea?
For the People who want Stock Gallery on CM and hate Aosp Gallery like Iam, check facebook offical cyanogenmod. They send a link to their new gallery next. Its in beta stase, so its not avaible yet. But if its stable itll be in play store. Its like the stock gallery app. Very beauty
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vladja10 said:
Well, I did like you said and here's what I got:
Code:
exec /system/bin/sh '/etc/init.d/93Mount'
h '/etc/init.d/93Mount' <
failed: No such file or directory
failed: No such file or directorybh on /data
mount: mounting atime,barrier=0,nobh on /cache failed: Invalid argument
Any idea?
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Well try this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.stericson.remount&hl=tr
EDIT : check this link out. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381188
I'm not sure it's the right track or not, it does happen to me quite ago.
The problem is the SD (my case, luckily it's external). The system try to read files from card but it got error thus try again => laggy
I removed the card and it's alive. Try to check your internal sd. hope that help
App didn't help, I got the same error. Never mind, I give up Will use Trickstermod after every single reboot until finally find solution. Thanks @ottomanhero for all your help.
@GalaxyVolvoZ that app looks realy nice. Finally a good replacement for Stock Gallery.
@klbterminator I don't have any problems with SD, at least didn't so far
Thanks guys.
Regards,
Vladimir