i just got my motomaker X that thankfully was still running 4.4,from what i was reading (and correct me if im wrong) i needed to RSD back to 4.2.2 to start the root process? and if i have to go all the way back can i use the safestrap 4.4.2 with the kernel and radio zip straight from 4.2.2?
mr4r4n said:
i just got my motomaker X that thankfully was still running 4.4,from what i was reading (and correct me if im wrong) i needed to RSD back to 4.2.2 to start the root process? and if i have to go all the way back can i use the safestrap 4.4.2 with the kernel and radio zip straight from 4.2.2?
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The answer lies within this link!!!
mr4r4n said:
i just got my motomaker X that thankfully was still running 4.4,from what i was reading (and correct me if im wrong) i needed to RSD back to 4.2.2 to start the root process? and if i have to go all the way back can i use the safestrap 4.4.2 with the kernel and radio zip straight from 4.2.2?
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well that link is to every guide you would need to get your phone rooted.
but here are a couple question i need you to answer and i can point you in a better direction
1.what Carrier is your device on
2. is your device a Dev Edition or no
answer these questions for me and i will point you to the guide you need to use
here is also some other basic info you may want to know.
if you device is a non Developer edition then you will only be able to root up to 4.4 as of right now the only way to root 4.4.2 is with a device with its bootloader unlocked. the only way to unlock a devices bootloader is for it to be a developer edition or with a carrier that allows the devices bootloader to be unlocked.
hope all this information helps you and i will be waiting for you to answer my questions so i can point you in the right direction.
Its a non developer edition moto maker x VZW , I'm actually had issues with rooting it, but finally got it under 4.2.2 and was also having issues because I was using my work computer, and unfortunately that is the only computer I have access to that works, I saw on the rootzwiki that there is a safestrap version of 4.4.2 and it has the kernel and radio to flash and I was hoping I'd be able to do a jump to that
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I haven't done the RockMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo processes on the locked bootloader X. There were some threads where some had written up the process with their tips and hints inline.. You might want to try and follow one of them if you've had issues. Just be sure to NOT install the 4.4.2 OTA on your phone in the process!!
If you ultimately need help getting to rooted 4.4 w/Safestrap 4.4.2, you'll probably want to have a thread title that is better suited to it.
For rooting you'll usually get pointed to one of the many threads on rooting via SlapMyMoto, but for safestrap with 4.4.2, I've only seen posts/links back to rootzwiki.com, so you might want to check over there.
@mr4r4n @dray_jr The link is to the guide that shows how to get to 4.2.2 way more than just rooting in that post. Then after you get there you would need follow @KidJoe advice.
as of right now you cant root 4.4.2 on a locked bootloader device. so if you want to keep root you will have to stay at 4.4
I managed to install a safe strap version of 4.4.2 and kernel/ radio files so far without having to have had gone through 4.4 only issue is getting busy box going
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mr4r4n said:
I managed to install a safe strap version of 4.4.2 and kernel/ radio files so far without having to have had gone through 4.4 only issue is getting busy box going
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But on 4.4.2 you will have write protection enabled....so if you hard reboot or power down, all changes you made will be gone.
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Even the safe strapped version ?
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Im not 100 percent up to date on all moto happenings, since giving it to my wife....but unless something has changed, there is no fully working root on 4.4.2. Only root with write protection enabled. So if you do a normal reboot...or it powers off....any root changes have to be done again, as they are all wiped.
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kj2112 said:
But on 4.4.2 you will have write protection enabled....so if you hard reboot or power down, all changes you made will be gone.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
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I don't think that is the case with 4.4.2 safestrap running on a 4.4 device.
I thought so as well especially considering I did not come from 4.4 when installing 4.4.2 lol
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mr4r4n said:
I thought so as well especially considering I did not come from 4.4 when installing 4.4.2 lol
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Like I said earlier though... most of the safestrap stuff is happening/being talked about over on Rootzwiki.com so for the SS stuff, you'll probably want to stop over there
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I don't think that is the case with 4.4.2 safestrap running on a 4.4 device.
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Yeah...im not a safestrap expert. Lol
If I accidentally bought a phone I couldn't lock, I'd have sold it or returned it the minute I found out....and shelled out more for one I could unlock. ?
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
I'm working on a script for the boot loader key, so it will happen believe you me, I just want working root in the mean time as since android 2.0 on the og droid I've been rooted, lol
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I'm working on a script for the boot loader key, so it will happen believe you me, I just want working root in the mean time as since android 2.0 on the og droid I've been rooted, lol
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I'm sure many have tried unlocking the bootloader to claim the $1200 bounty....and died trying....but I wish you luck. ?
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kj2112 said:
Im not 100 percent up to date on all moto happenings, since giving it to my wife....but unless something has changed, there is no fully working root on 4.4.2. Only root with write protection enabled. So if you do a normal reboot...or it powers off....any root changes have to be done again, as they are all wiped.
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Hi, I keep seeing references to being able to get root with write protection enabled. That would at least be better than no root at all for some things, right? And yet I can't find info on how to get to that point. Links, advice, search keywords? I've perused the massive reference guides looking for more concrete info and I may just have missed the obvious. Any help would be much appreciated.
EDIT: Did some more reading, feel like I may have found the disappointing confirmation that root isn't possible on 4.4.2. Clarification: If you managed to root before 4.4.2, you can retain root and upgrade to 4.4.2 with SafeStrap, but you won't be able to disable write protection, so you lose any changes you have made invoking superuser privileges after a soft reset of the device. If you didn't have root before, and you can't unlock the bootloader now, you're completely screwed, rootwise. Correct?
Jumnhy said:
Hi, I keep seeing references to being able to get root with write protection enabled. That would at least be better than no root at all for some things, right? And yet I can't find info on how to get to that point. Links, advice, search keywords? I've perused the massive reference guides looking for more concrete info and I may just have missed the obvious. Any help would be much appreciated.
EDIT: Did some more reading, feel like I may have found the disappointing confirmation that root isn't possible on 4.4.2. Clarification: If you managed to root before 4.4.2, you can retain root and upgrade to 4.4.2 with SafeStrap, but you won't be able to disable write protection, so you lose any changes you have made invoking superuser privileges after a soft reset of the device. If you didn't have root before, and you can't unlock the bootloader now, you're completely screwed, rootwise. Correct?
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It seems there's a couple ROMs now that may allow you root with write protection disabled on 4.4.2....IF you're still on 4.2.2 or 4.4. They are in development section, and there's a thread about it in general I think.
But if you're already on 4.4.2, no, you're out of luck. For now anyway. You can't downgrade 4.4.2 to do the process.
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I really HATE to have to post this and I will do so quite reluctantly....
I am certainly NOT a noob when it comes to Android, rooting, etc. But, the X is my first Moto android phone. I recently purchased mine via CTO with the AT&T Kitkat leak already installed. The person I bought it from claims there is NO WAY to gain root. He said he installed the leak via stock recovery.
The leak I'm running is 140.44.3.ghost_att.ATT.en.US.
Can anyone who's kind enough and well versed in Moto devices explain to me HOW I can how I can gain root on this leak and/or get Safestrap TWRP installed and if not, will I still be able to receive OTA updates being that the bootloader is locked and the stock recovery is intact? I just don't understand enough about Moto devices. I've searched and searched and can't really find the answers myself otherwise I wouldn't post here on XDA like the moron that I am.
I have a hard time accepting that I can't gain root despite not being able to unlock the bootloader. I realize that certain versions are only compatible with Safestrap (I hope I'm understanding that correctly) but, again I don't understand enough of how Moto's work. I've always had Samsung's or HTC's which are SUPER easy to use via ADB, etc.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
t3chn0s1s said:
I really HATE to have to post this and I will do so quite reluctantly....
I am certainly NOT a noob when it comes to Android, rooting, etc. But, the X is my first Moto android phone. I recently purchased mine via CTO with the AT&T Kitkat leak already installed. The person I bought it from claims there is NO WAY to gain root. He said he installed the leak via stock recovery.
The leak I'm running is 140.44.3.ghost_att.ATT.en.US.
Can anyone who's kind enough and well versed in Moto devices explain to me HOW I can how I can gain root on this leak and/or get Safestrap TWRP installed and if not, will I still be able to receive OTA updates being that the bootloader is locked and the stock recovery is intact? I just don't understand enough about Moto devices. I've searched and searched and can't really find the answers myself otherwise I wouldn't post here on XDA like the moron that I am.
I have a hard time accepting that I can't gain root despite not being able to unlock the bootloader. I realize that certain versions are only compatible with Safestrap (I hope I'm understanding that correctly) but, again I don't understand enough of how Moto's work. I've always had Samsung's or HTC's which are SUPER easy to use via ADB, etc.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Have you read this thread? It should give you a headstart if you haven't.
RagnaParadise said:
Have you read this thread? It should give you a headstart if you haven't.
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Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
Sent from my Nexus 5
t3chn0s1s said:
Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
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RagnaParadise said:
You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
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If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
t3chn0s1s said:
Thanks Ragna... I haven't. I appreciate the help greatly. Moto's are so different from anything I'm used to and being that I am not starting out from a stock position makes it even more confusing.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
theraffman said:
If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
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I wasn't certain because it was flashed over. I'm running on a Verizon ROM and frankly I wouldn't have known it was a Latin America version if I got it like that. So... Oh well. I suppose the probability that it is an AT&T version is much higher. In that case, OP's SOL for a bootloader unlock. Lol
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theraffman said:
If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
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I'm just reading your post now but, this is exactly what I did... I just used RDS Lite to return to stock 4.2.2 and then OTA'd to 4.4 and now I'm gonna use jcase's exploit to gain root. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE INFO GUYS!
theraffman said:
If he has an att moto x then it has a locked bootloader.
To get back to stock all you need to do is download the 4.2.2 stock firmware images and then use rsdlite to install them... Assuming you have adb anyway configured, it only takes a few minutes.
From there you can do a fresh install of the 4.4 ota or take the steps to get 4.4 ota with root.
AT&T Moto X rocking rooted 4.4
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RagnaParadise said:
You might want to check out whether your phone is bootloader unlockable. I think you should be able to flash 4.4 on it completely soon, I would suggest holding out until then.
By the way, welcome to the Moto X camp.
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Thanks Ragna. I appreciate the info and being the "welcome wagon", LOL. Yeah - I'm obviously on the AT&T version (not a Dev Edition) so my BL is unlockable which - is complete bulls**t. I don't get why Moto has to pull this crap or why AT&T gives a rats ass what we do with our phones.
I was able to root my Verizon on 4.4 Just take your time and read thoroughly.
It's sort of a rough set of instructions not for the faint of heart.
SYNSYNACKACK said:
I was able to root my Verizon on 4.4 Just take your time and read thoroughly.
It's sort of a rough set of instructions not for the faint of heart.
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Yea... So I've read. Telnet is SO old school... Was kinda surprised to see that as part of the process. I haven't yet taken the plunge but will probably eventually go for it. Just a little confused since I'm already on stock 4.4 so I'm not sure if I should start at step 1 or what. Oh well... I'll figure it out. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Has anyone successfully installed and used Safestrap with 4.4 Kitkat (Non-Developer Edition)? Looks like Safestrap 3.65 works but I am not seeing a lot of chatter about it. Please share if you have! Thanks!
dlscott1111 said:
Has anyone successfully installed and used Safestrap with 4.4 Kitkat (Non-Developer Edition)? Looks like Safestrap 3.65 works but I am not seeing a lot of chatter about it. Please share if you have! Thanks!
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Yes I have. 3.65.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
With me being wp off does that make any difference in how to install safestrap?
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dlscott1111 said:
With me being wp off does that make any difference in how to install safestrap?
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Nope. Just install as normal.
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Ok dumb question, but I'm still trying to learn here.
*a bit of background
Rogers 4.4.2 moto x
Locked boot loader
No root
Dead stock
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There are 3 custom recoveries for the Moto X I've found out about so far.
TWRP and CWM (used Clockwork on all my other rooted devices) but these are specifically for unlocked boot loader device. Unlocking the boot loader doesn't seem that difficult (just go to the Motorola website I believe (I have the Rogers XT1058 so it should work )).
Then there's Safe Strap. Supposedly you don't have to have the boot loader unlocked for this to work so this seems like an easier method to gain custom recovery.
Now my dumb question(s):
Is the only difference the need if the boot loader to be locked or unlocked?
Do I need to run slap my moto or a similar tool to disable write protection?
The main question really:
I am really interested in Gravity Box! Would SafeStrap be the way to go? Or do I need to go through Slapmymoto, TWRP or CWM and go from there?
Any help is greatly appreciated! Still trying to learn about what's what because I love this phone but really just want to get rid of the navigation bar and have PIE controls for a full screen mode
Thanks everyone! Good day to all!
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Since you're updated to 4.4.2 you will need to unlock your bootloader to root the phone(which also voids the warranty on a Rogers phone).
Once it is unlocked install whichever custom recovery you prefer and have fun modding.
thatdude02 said:
Ok dumb question, but I'm still trying to learn here.
*a bit of background
Rogers 4.4.2 moto x
Locked boot loader
No root
Dead stock
*
There are 3 custom recoveries for the Moto X I've found out about so far.
TWRP and CWM (used Clockwork on all my other rooted devices) but these are specifically for unlocked boot loader device. Unlocking the boot loader doesn't seem that difficult (just go to the Motorola website I believe (I have the Rogers XT1058 so it should work )).
Then there's Safe Strap. Supposedly you don't have to have the boot loader unlocked for this to work so this seems like an easier method to gain custom recovery.
Now my dumb question(s):
Is the only difference the need if the boot loader to be locked or unlocked?
Do I need to run slap my moto or a similar tool to disable write protection?
The main question really:
I am really interested in Gravity Box! Would SafeStrap be the way to go? Or do I need to go through Slapmymoto, TWRP or CWM and go from there?
Any help is greatly appreciated! Still trying to learn about what's what because I love this phone but really just want to get rid of the navigation bar and have PIE controls for a full screen mode
Thanks everyone! Good day to all!
Sent from my XT1058 using xda app-developers app
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Steve-X is right because you are not rooted right now you wont be able to install safestrap.
your only option if you want root is to unlock your bootloader.
but if you do that you have a choice of Clockwork mod or TWRP custom recovery.(me personally i would not use safestrap on a unlocked bootloader)
if you dont want to unlock your bootloader then im sorry to say there is no root option for you right now or custom recovery's
if you do thou rooting your phone is very simple
unlock bootloader
install customer recovery of your choice
flash SuperSU
then you have Root.
dray_jr said:
Steve-X is right because you are not rooted right now you wont be able to install safestrap.
your only option if you want root is to unlock your bootloader.
but if you do that you have a choice of Clockwork mod or TWRP custom recovery.(me personally i would not use safestrap on a unlocked bootloader)
if you dont want to unlock your bootloader then im sorry to say there is no root option for you right now or custom recovery's
if you do thou rooting your phone is very simple
unlock bootloader
install customer recovery of your choice
flash SuperSU
then you have Root.
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Awesome thank you so much! I was worried that I had to work around write protection and all that. I've found the TWRP forum for this device so I think its time to do a bit of reading!
Steve-x said:
Since you're updated to 4.4.2 you will need to unlock your bootloader to root the phone(which also voids the warranty on a Rogers phone).
Once it is unlocked install whichever custom recovery you prefer and have fun modding.
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Cool! Well the phone is a Rogers device but I don't have a warranty just because I unlocked it and took it to a different carrier (bought on Craigslist for $275). Man I was worried about a ton of other stuff to use. Thanks for your help!
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Is there any Roms compatible with safe strap for at&t?
MOTO X Slapped
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Is there any Roms compatible with safe strap for at&t?
MOTO X Slapped
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the roms are not recovery based they are device based if there is a AT&T rom you like just flash it with safestrap
dray_jr said:
the roms are not recovery based they are device based if there is a AT&T rom you like just flash it with safestrap
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I can't seem to find any Roms. I tried eclipse for vzw and gsm but it didn't work.
MOTO X Slapped
[email protected] said:
I can't seem to find any Roms. I tried eclipse for vzw and gsm but it didn't work.
MOTO X Slapped
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what do you mean it didnt work can you explain abit more like what errors you got and so forth
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I can't seem to find any Roms. I tried eclipse for vzw and gsm but it didn't work.
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You have to flash it to stock slot.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
dray_jr said:
what do you mean it didnt work can you explain abit more like what errors you got and so forth
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I created a ROM slot for it. I've used safestrap with my gs4 so I know how it works. I created a ROM slot then flashed eclipse on that ROM slot rebooted and go the dead android with the red triangle warning.
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lowvolt1 said:
You have to flash it to stock slot.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
if you have found me to be helpful, throw me a thumbs up.
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I didn't know. So you can only flash it on the stock slot? And if any thing just revert back with rsdlite? I've used Odin and it seems like its the same thing.
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I created a ROM slot for it. I've used safestrap with my gs4 so I know how it works. I created a ROM slot then flashed eclipse on that ROM slot rebooted and go the dead android with the red triangle warning.
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I didn't know. So you can only flash it on the stock slot? And if any thing just revert back with rsdlite? I've used Odin and it seems like its the same thing.
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You can use safe strap to create a back up of stock slot the if anything you can restore stock to the slot.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
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Hi, I have a sprint Moto X on 4.4. I haven't unlocked the bootloader or rooted anything because I haven't felt the need to but since 4.4.2 came out it keeps nagging me to update but I don't want to loose my chance to root so I figured now would be a good time to root it. I've looked around the forums but haven't seen a guide specifically for the Sprint Moto X root for 4.4. What is the process to root my phone? Once I do I can just disable the moto ota app and I'll stop getting the notifications to update right?
Thanks
Edit: Also, is it possible (and a good idea) to flash a stock 4.4.2 rom and keep root?
If you unlock your bootloader, rooting is simple by flashing twrp.
If you want to leave your bootloader locked, you need to use safestrap and all that other stuff. Much more work.
Its all in the stickied complete guide to Moto x. Or in the dev threads. Doesn't matter if you are sprint. You want the locked bootloader method, or unlocked method....depending what you decide.
Lots of info in the sticky in general.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
kj2112 said:
If you unlock your bootloader, rooting is simple by flashing twrp.
If you want to leave your bootloader locked, you need to use safestrap and all that other stuff. Much more work.
Its all in the stickied complete guide to Moto x. Or in the dev threads. Doesn't matter if you are sprint. You want the locked bootloader method, or unlocked method....depending what you decide.
Lots of info in the sticky in general.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
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I don't have a warranty on the phone so are their any cons to unlocking the bootloader?
I looked at the complete guide and it seems pretty straightforward.
My last question. Is there a way I can upgrade to stock 4.4.2 after unlocking and rooting? I don't want a rom with a bunch of changes and unneeded features.
Rayz321 said:
I don't have a warranty on the phone so are their any cons to unlocking the bootloader?
I looked at the complete guide and it seems pretty straightforward.
My last question. Is there a way I can upgrade to stock 4.4.2 after unlocking and rooting? I don't want a rom with a bunch of changes and unneeded features.
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If you unlock the bootloader, the only con is warranty. Everything else is a pro.
4.4.2 can be rooted just as simply as any other version, if your bootloader is unlocked. So the easiest thing to do is do the 4.4.2 OTA for your phone, then root after upgrading. Or flash 4.4.2 manually if the files are available yet.
Keep in mind, unlocking the bootloader will completely wipe your phone.
Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
Rayz321 said:
I don't have a warranty on the phone so are their any cons to unlocking the bootloader?
I looked at the complete guide and it seems pretty straightforward.
My last question. Is there a way I can upgrade to stock 4.4.2 after unlocking and rooting? I don't want a rom with a bunch of changes and unneeded features.
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there is one Con like said and that is the warranty but i could care less because being able to root any version of android is a huge plus side i would really unlock your bootloader
dray_jr said:
there is one Con like said and that is the warranty but i could care less because being able to root any version of android is a huge plus side i would really unlock your bootloader
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I'm unlocking my bootloader now.
Once it's done I just update to 4.4.2 and flash twrp?
Thanks for all the helps guys.
Yup.
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Yup.
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Thanks so much, I got everything working!
Is there an way that I can stop the warning bootloader unlocked screen from coming up on every boot?
Rayz321 said:
Thanks so much, I got everything working!
Is there an way that I can stop the warning bootloader unlocked screen from coming up on every boot?
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Awesome!
Look in themes and apps section. There's a few threads with different boot screens and instructions.
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I have a motomaker moto x on vzw which is obviously locked...im rooted on 4.4 because i need gravity box at least since i cant get custom roms(ugh) so i havent upgraded to 4.4.2 yet because it hasnt been rooted...my question was has it been rooted because i cant find anything about it anywhere...and if not is anyone working on it? as much as i love this phone i really miss unlocking and rooting
chris420o said:
I have a motomaker moto x on vzw which is obviously locked...im rooted on 4.4 because i need gravity box at least since i cant get custom roms(ugh) so i havent upgraded to 4.4.2 yet because it hasnt been rooted...my question was has it been rooted because i cant find anything about it anywhere...and if not is anyone working on it? as much as i love this phone i really miss unlocking and rooting
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there is no root method for 4.4.2 (covered extensively). your only option (for now) is to sit on your current version or apply a ROM that gives you 4.4.2 functionality (but you're still on 4.4 kernel).
BUMPING for interest
I feel ya man. I'm also sitting on rooted 4.4 wishing I could update to 4.4.2. I like the stock OS on this phone so I don't feel the need to have an unlocked bootloader, but I would love to be able to have the latest OS version. Although I don't think it's a huge update anyways. I've seriously thought about going back to stock and updating to 4.4.2, but I would miss root WAY too much. I love being able to tether without asking for Verizon's permission.
At least you have root. I'm sitting on 4.4.2 waiting for root. So wish I could use xposed...
underdog1799 said:
At least you have root. I'm sitting on 4.4.2 waiting for root. So wish I could use xposed...
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Did you order your x from the moto design website? Or from verizen?
doitinthedirt said:
Did you order your x from the moto design website? Or from verizen?
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Woodback VZW MotoMaker here...
doitinthedirt said:
Did you order your x from the moto design website? Or from verizen?
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I ordered it from the moto maker website
When did you order it? I placed an order two days ago for a design your own.. a guy here posted he got his two days ago and it had 4.4 on it so thought mine might come with 4.4
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When did you order it? I placed an order two days ago for a design your own.. a guy here posted he got his two days ago and it had 4.4 on it so thought mine might come with 4.4
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Mine was ordered a month ago or so. I think it probably is hit or miss whether it has been updated or not. But mine was actually on 4.4 and it updated to 4.4.2 overnight
If you realllllly want root....i'd return the phone and get a dev edition. Otherwise you may be stuck on 4.4.
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Or sell it and add some cash for the dev edition if you can't return it. ?
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kj2112 said:
If you realllllly want root....i'd return the phone and get a dev edition. Otherwise you may be stuck on 4.4.
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Or sell it and add some cash for the dev edition if you can't return it. ?
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
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Well 4.4 would be fine, Im stuck on 4.1.2 as of now on my razrM since they quit updating than.
The first fone i rooted was the razrM and i changed the entitlementcheck to get tethering for my unlimited data.. since than ive accepted two OTA and lost root but the change i made to entitlement check when i had root and write protection disabled still stayed after root was wiped by the OTA. This is puzzling i dont see why guys are loosing entitlement check after losing root with 4.4.2 on moto x
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Well 4.4 would be fine, Im stuck on 4.1.2 as of now on my razrM since they quit updating than.
The first fone i rooted was the razrM and i changed the entitlementcheck to get tethering for my unlimited data.. since than ive accepted two OTA and lost root but the change i made to entitlement check when i had root and write protection disabled still stayed afyer root was wiped by the OTA. This is puzzling i dont see why guys are loosing entitlement check after losing root with 4.4.2 on moto x
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Basically I think moto saw the exploit and simply closed the door on it. ?
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Yeah I'm dying hoping someone will swoop in and help us get a root exploit going. I'm not quite sure why no one has done it...maybe we need to make a thread like the bootloader unlock one where the dev would make some money if they got root going.
Unlocking the bootloader does solve all this. And the bounty is huge.
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You are asking about root, but if you want usable root on the X you need two parts 1. Root Exploit, and 2. An Exploit that allows for disabling Write Protection.
When Write Protection is enabled (the phone's default state with locked bootloader, or the state you are in after you take the 4.4.2 OTA), any changes made to /system, or the like, (including, but not limited to, App installs, file modifications, deletions, renames, etc) are not permanent and are lost at power off/on.
Even if you have root, but lost Write Protection, any apps you've installed that need to write to system can't permanently save their changes (you have to re-do every time your phone powers off/on), and any Root type app, or app that gets installed to /system after WP is enabled will be lost at power off/on.
MotoWpNoMo was used on 4.4. and below to Disable Write Protection. Part of the 4.4.2 update patches the exploit that MotoWpNoMo used, so it wont work on 4.4.2.
SlapMyMoto/RockMyMoto/etc, used on 4.4 and lower, involved downgrading the rom to use an exploit in 4.2.2 to gain root. But with 4.4.2 you can't downgrade the rom safely, without risk of bricking your phone, anymore.
JCASE has already posted he has an exploit to use to gain root on 4.4.2, but due to job and family, wont release it until the fall. Who knows what ROM Moto will push out by then, and if they will have patched the exploit already. BUT before you get made at JCASE for waiting so long, that doesn't address a Write Protection dis-abler. I've not seen any talk about work on that for locked bootloaders (when you unlock the bootloader, like on Dev Editions, the write protection is disabled). So JCASE could release his Root exploit, he or someone could develop that process, but it would be kind of useless without the ability to disable write protection.
Trust me, *IF* or when a Root and Write Protection bypass is out, you will see threads on it. Until then, you have to sit tight.
If you are rooted with write protection disabled, you might want to check out the SafeStrap discussions over at Rootzwiki.com. That might at least afford you a way to run 4.4.2
And of course @kj2112 suggestion of getting a Develpper Edition so you can unlock the bootloader and root no matter what rom version, is the best advice. Yes, its more expensive than a subsidized X, signing a contract, but its worth it if you *NEED* or *WANT* root & write protection disabled. (and selling your current X is an option to get cash towards the Dev Edition)
This website claims root on 4.4.2.
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Root-Moto-X-KitKat
Anyone hear or try it yet?
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This website claims root on 4.4.2.
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Root-Moto-X-KitKat
Anyone hear or try it yet?
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It's already being discussed here. I don't think it works as that site claims it does though.
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This website claims root on 4.4.2.
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Root-Moto-X-KitKat
Anyone hear or try it yet?
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As @The Tallest says, its already being disucssed in that other thread.
Even so, *IF* it safely works, it is only a potential root, but does nothing for write protection.
Too bad. At least it's a possible step in the right direction.
Just got this phone from my job, had a nexus 5 before. I'm used to wug's nexus root toolkit, something like that would be great. I just need root and a custom recovery. Thanks.
If you have a non-Dev edition, you can't do either. I'm guessing you're on 4.4.2, so you're stuck.
And if you need a toolkit to root a Nexus phone, you should just buy an iPhone.
Sent from my Moto X
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If you have a non-Dev edition, you can't do either. I'm guessing you're on 4.4.2, so you're stuck.
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you are correct.. KX120.16-1.25.2 is definitely 4.4.2 on Verizon.
@patass imnuts is correct. Unless you have the Dev Edition, once 4.4.2 is on your phone, your stuck. (components that get upgraded in 4.4.2 prevent downgrading, and/or cause issues resulting in bricking or future bricking of the phone.) The 4.4.2 upgrade patches the exploits used by the rooting and write protection disable processes.
There is the Chinese Website/Middle man option, but it voids your warranty.
Tell your job to get you a developer edition. Tell them that it's safer and you want to ensure their data is protected. Then unlock and root that bad boy...
It's what I'd do.
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Just got this phone from my job, ...... I just need root and a custom recovery. Thanks.
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So your job lets you run with a rooted phone?
Most companies I've supported BLOCK rooted devices.