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Hi all, I am not a hacker but am very interested in windows phone 7. Currently, I have a Samsung Galaxy S from Bell, and I was wondering if windows phone 7 can be hacked on to it since it is a near identical to the Samsung Focus?
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I am interested too. Can put in donation for the developers.
Well considering there are hardware differences between even just the Vibrant and the Captivate that require different kernels for Android I think a port of Windows Phone 7 would be rather difficult to pull off as there won't be any source released that can be tweaked & recompiled for the Captivate.
Android = Open Source (Open-source software (OSS) is computer software that is available in source code form for which the source code and certain other rights normally reserved for copyright holders are provided under a software license that permits users to study, change, and improve the software. Open source licenses meet the requirements of the Open Source Definition. Some open source software is available within the public domain. Open source software is very often developed in a public, collaborative manner. Open-source software is the most prominent example of open-source development and often compared to (technically defined) user-generated content or (legally defined) open content movements.[1] The term open-source software originated as part of a marketing campaign for free software.[2] A report by Standish Group states that adoption of open-source software models has resulted in savings of about $60 billion per year to consumers.[3][4])
Microsoft = Proprietary (Proprietary software is computer software licensed under exclusive legal right of its owner. The purchaser, or licensee, is given the right to use the software under certain conditions, but restricted from other uses, such as modification, further distribution, or reverse engineering.)
But, the HTC HD2 has recently booted into a real version of Windows phone 7. So, if a version of Windows Phone 7 is obtained, it could quite possibly be put onto the Galaxy S devices, you know, if a Galaxy S owner really wants to.
I don't think this is possible. No android phone has dual booted yet. Plus WM isn't as open as android so I doubt it. Its not bad to dream though is it?
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ChechenTDG said:
But, the HTC HD2 has recently booted into a real version of Windows phone 7. So, if a version of Windows Phone 7 is obtained, it could quite possibly be put onto the Galaxy S devices, you know, if a Galaxy S owner really wants to.
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That phone is a windows phone already though. Captivate is android
Well.. leave it up to the hackers and I know they will find a way to do it.
But... most of the hacks out there have been done with devices with a *nix backbone in it.
Apple = Free BSD
Android = Java/Linux
Windows = Windows
I think you will see some hacks for the Windows 7 phones - I'm pretty sure it won't be as nice as the Android series, nor do I think anyone would want to port Windows onto an existing Android device.
I really think someone should get windows phone 7 onto this device, I would easily choose it over froyo. I am in love with everything about that phone and would love to be able to have it on my Captivate
^so get an hd2 or samsung focus or whatever
Thats the Point dude. Samsung Focus is almost like the Galaxy S. So I could imagine, that if you can gain the source files from Focus, you can port winphone7 to galaxy s So everybody with a Samsung Focus. UNlock the phone, read out the nand, give it to a coder/dev And lets hope for the best and support him
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Microsoft = Proprietary (Proprietary software is computer software licensed under exclusive legal right of its owner. The purchaser, or licensee, is given the right to use the software under certain conditions, but restricted from other uses, such as modification, further distribution, or reverse engineering.)
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You or any dev is *not* authorized to hack and release the windows ports. It could become a legal issue.
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Thats the Point dude. Samsung Focus is almost like the Galaxy S. So I could imagine, that if you can gain the source files from Focus, you can port winphone7 to galaxy s So everybody with a Samsung Focus. UNlock the phone, read out the nand, give it to a coder/dev And lets hope for the best and support him
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Just offer your Captivate for trade on craigslist. You'll get WP7 a lot faster that way vs. waiting for an SGS port (because never is a really long time).
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Thats the Point dude. Samsung Focus is almost like the Galaxy S. So I could imagine, that if you can gain the source files from Focus, you can port winphone7 to galaxy s So everybody with a Samsung Focus. UNlock the phone, read out the nand, give it to a coder/dev And lets hope for the best and support him
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Captivate = Hummingbird vs Focus = Snapdragon
what...
About the only way this is going to be possible is if you have friends at Microsoft that have the authority to develop windows mobile on a phone that they have no actual interest in. Not to mention I doubt Samsung would even let them haha. In summation no you cant put windows on the captivate.
Maybe with the new MS - ARM agreement we will be able to get a working ROM for Galaxy S(I and II).
Guys , with the unbrickable mod(I have it) we can test it . And AdamOutler said it would be possible to do it because WP supports our processors.
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Guys , with the unbrickable mod(I have it) we can test it . And AdamOutler said it would be possible to do it because WP supports our processors.
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Lemme know. I'm unbrickable also.
sent from my unbrickable modded captivate.
I'm willing to do anything since my phone is unbrickable
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Hi b-eock and bulletproof1013
Unbrickable mod? Please tell me more. I have a Galaxy S that needs reloading....badly
Thanks
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Hi everybody. I've already checked the various threads but the answers don't satisfied me. I want the Samsung Galaxy s Advance and I've the chance to buy it for 250 euros. The device is perfect for what I have to do (the only drawback is the RAM, because I wanted it to be 1 gb). Anyway, my question is: is it good to buy it now? I fear that it will not be upgraded anymore. I've another question: should I wait for new devices coming at the MWC? Any release date? My budget is limited to 250 euros.
Thanks in... advance
Sorry for my bad English
Look Bro.... SGSA may not be that popular or might have some bugs but what it does have is a damn good processor and gpu
...... Given the price range..... Also we have a small but good developer team which have released kernel and roms which are brilliant...... Also SGSA HAS RECEIVED JB update and it runs like butter....
This is all I can say the rest is up to you as you are the one who is gonna buy it not us.... But if you buy this device you won't regret that you invested in this piece
IF I HELPED PRESS THANKS!!
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Look Bro.... SGSA may not be that popular or might have some bugs but what it does have is a damn good processor and gpu
...... Given the price range..... Also we have a small but good developer team which have released kernel and roms which are brilliant...... Also SGSA HAS RECEIVED JB update and it runs like butter....
This is all I can say the rest is up to you as you are the one who is gonna buy it not us.... But if you buy this device you won't regret that you invested in this piece
IF I HELPED PRESS THANKS!!
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thanks. I think I'll get the Advance. So I hope xda developers will continue rocking on this device!
I don't mean to discourage you or anything but if you are looking for a phone with atleast 1 GB RAM then you do have an option to get S3 Mini instead... its 250 EUR now and it has the "same" hardware as the Galaxy S Advance - only thing that differs is that this device has 1 GB of RAM.. and S Advance has 768 MB instead...
PS: The 4.1.2 update for S Advance may be the "last" official update from Samsung... but on other side the S3 Mini may even get 5.0 update..
But I'm SATISFIED with my S Advance... if you do the "proper" Tweaks and Modifications then this phone might get too fast for you to handle
Warning: If you are planning to buy a Galaxy S Advance then make sure its i9070 and NOT i9070p... The "P" version is the NFC version - here on XDA only one developer has this and that too is bricked... so you might not get any dev support if you own a i9070p!!
And do checkout this thread too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945806
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I don't mean to discourage you or anything but if you are looking for a phone with atleast 1 GB RAM then you do have an option to get S3 Mini instead... its 250 EUR now and it has the "same" hardware as the Galaxy S Advance - only thing that differs is that this device has 1 GB of RAM.. and S Advance has 768 MB instead...
PS: The 4.1.2 update for S Advance may be the "last" official update from Samsung... but on other side the S3 Mini may even get 5.0 update..
But I'm SATISFIED with my S Advance... if you do the "proper" Tweaks and Modifications then this phone might get too fast for you to handle
Warning: If you are planning to buy a Galaxy S Advance then make sure its i9070 and NOT i9070p... The "P" version is the NFC version - here on XDA only one developer has this and that too is bricked... so you might not get any dev support if you own a i9070p!!
And do checkout this thread too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1945806
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I Think we might get future updates....as our device is equivalent to S3 mini......and it is a recent release also!!
if S3 Mini can be updated(i am asuming it will go to 4.2 or larger) i dont see a reason why our model wont be?
But that is just MY perspective!
Don't buy it if you expect development.
It's a solid performer but nothing more. I came here from a ****ty, low-end htc device that had more development done in a month than SGSA since it had it's own subforum on xda.
So for the time being you can choose from:
1. JB update X or JB update Y - both provided by our hefty russian branch :>
2. two custom kernels which do have some bugs and glitches (but hey, nothing's perfect right?)
Device was released nearly a year ago. Do the math.
The only reason i would recommend you to avoid samsung smartphones is problem with keeping dialer and sms applications locked in RAM. So far i have not seen the device (from ancient devices like spica or i5500 to s3) that manage this properly without custom rom (@official samsung software dev's wtf?). So i would probably go for LG/Sony
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I Think we might get future updates....as our device is equivalent to S3 mini......and it is a recent release also!!
if S3 Mini can be updated(i am asuming it will go to 4.2 or larger) i dont see a reason why our model wont be?
But that is just MY perspective!
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Neither s3 mini or s advance will get 5.0 that much is assured. Only note 2 and s3 have the hardware to run such a hefty(I'm assuming after seeing the RAM eaten by JB) so it doesn't really matter whether s3 mini or the advance is depends on personal preference only!
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Neither s3 mini or s advance will get 5.0 that much is assured. Only note 2 and s3 have the hardware to run such a hefty(I'm assuming after seeing the RAM eaten by JB) so it doesn't really matter whether s3 mini or the advance is depends on personal preference only!
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android 5.0 may run....on our device!!! coz 756MB is quite sufficient.....
else we will also have ubuntu and firefox
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android 5.0 may run....on our device!!! coz 756MB is quite sufficient.....
else we will also have ubuntu and firefox
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One thing is "may run" and another is "Samsung will give it to us".
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@shut_down we wont know until google gives some more DETAILS!!??
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@shut_down we wont know until google gives some more DETAILS!!??
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Offcourse, but we can't say Android 5 is comming to our phone for sure.
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Offcourse, but we can't say Android 5 is comming to our phone for sure.
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I don't we will get 5.0 update.. maybe S2 may not also get it.. S2 and our phone may get 4.2 update and that would be it!
But I'm just guessing.. the rest depends on Google and Samsung
discussion about future OS's is almost irrelevant for this topic. you cannot expect from any mid range phone to support many future os's so this won't help him with his dilemma. IMO only relevant thing could be that samsung usually don't support AT ALL models older than approx. 1 year, in favor of selling newer, more expensive models. which is not the case with some other manufacturers
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discussion about future OS's is almost irrelevant for this topic. you cannot expect from any mid range phone to support many future os's so this won't help him with his dilemma. IMO only relevant thing could be that samsung usually don't support AT ALL models older than approx. 1 year, in favor of selling newer, more expensive models. which is not the case with some other manufacturers
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HTC is way worse than Samsung......
P.S. I was an X-HTC user
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It doesn't really matter what updates will samsung release, that I've learned while owning an original Galaxy S. The last fw officially relased to it was GB 2.3.6. Right now it rocks Jelly Bean 4.2 stable. (yes, of course CyanogenMod ^^)
It's quiet an old device, but still, the dev support is amazing! And do you know why it's possible? Firstly, sales. More than 10 million sold. More popular device means more devs, usually. Secondly, it's hardware is identical to Google's Nexus S which received an official Jelly Bean and that means source codes released in timely manner to work with!
As for the S Advance, the only problem is popularity. It was an awful mistake to release it with gingerbread instead of already long available ICS. This repels users, who are interested in tinkering with their phone. This means only those few people (and to whom I thank their efforts) are here and capable to do anything with development for our device. Honestly, the list of roms and kernels are short.
On the other hand the chipset is quiet popular and I'm sure other handsets with the same chipset will help somewhat to keep this device up to date for as long as possible.
Cheers!
Hi everybody!
I am a fully satisfied Galaxy Wonder I8150 user, however - since I found an offer for the Galaxy S Advance I9070 for about 200€ - I am thinking about changing my phone.
What would you suggest?
Are you happy with the I9070?
I am a bit worried that you do not have many ROMs available - while I8150 has plenty of them and good developers, just to name one, arco! - and it seems to me that the I8150 is not very widespread...
Opinions and discussions are more than welcome, tx.
The number 1 advantage in s advance is good value for money and good specs for that price. If specs are your only concern try s3mini . It may be costlier but has more ram. As regards s advance, now after Jb update development has picked up and we do have at 3 least good custom ROMs and other mods. CM10 official may come soon and there will be more ROMs based on it.
But if you are buying a phone now look for something newer as Samsung mostly won't release next android update for advance
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... And take care with the P version...
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@ Sadvance: I surely agree with the fact that I9070 seems to be good value for money.
I would go for S3 mini (although I prefer the design of I9070 actually!) but paying 100€ more for having 1GB Ram instead of 768MB is not justifiable imho.
Are there other significant differences between S3 mini and I9070 (I cannot find any other)?
@R_a_z_v_a_n: what do you mean?
Should I look for the P version since it also has NFC reader?
Or should I look for the normal (i.e. NOT P version) because it seems to be more widespread?
Tx a lot.
hi I currently own Samsung Omnia w with windows phone 7.8 , its a great phone love wp , a huge fan
but there are no new apps or games for wp7 so I need to upgrade
what do you guys suggest to stick with windows phone 8 or go android
my options
Nokia lumia 920
Samsung galaxy s4
sony xperia ZR
which one will you guys suggest???
the only reason android is an option for coz it has lots of free and good 3d games with good graphics
wp8 lacks the free thing
and no piracy is not my thing....I will buy the game rather steal it
also with android I have a possibility of tweaking phone which I like to do in free time
other then this I love wp
so plz suggest
Hi there, If I were you, I wouldn't hesitate for a second: go for the Samsung Galaxy S4! I had a HTC Mozart and then a Windows Phone 8X, which I swapped for my old HTC One S and I couldn't be happier. I don't think I'm looking back any time soon!
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Hi there, If I were you, I wouldn't hesitate for a second: go for the Samsung Galaxy S4! I had a HTC Mozart and then a Windows Phone 8X, which I swapped for my old HTC One S and I couldn't be happier. I don't think I'm looking back any time soon!
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don't you miss the smoothness of WP???
as far as I have heard (not used) that android freezes a lot???
will you plz take a look on ZR as well and tell me which one to go
Thanks
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don't you miss the smoothness of WP???
as far as I have heard (not used) that android freezes a lot???
will you plz take a look on ZR as well and tell me which one to go
Thanks
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Actually, I've used both Android and Windows Phone a lot, and I can tell you that Android is as smooth as WP. Obviously, if you use a crappy Android phone, it's not going to be smooth, but I guess the same applies to WP. As for the Xperia ZR, it looks like a great phone, but I've never been a fan of Sony phones; it's just a matter of personal preference. But I can assure you that either of the phones you are considering is going to be as smooth as any Lumia 925, Samsung ATIV or HTC 8X.
"The same" doesn't actually apply to WP - the minimum requirements for WP7 and WP8 devices are high enough to ensure good performance of the OS (Android has no such restrictions).
Android will get worse battery life and (especially depending on where you get your apps from, and no, XDA isn't even always safe) a higher risk of malware, but you do also get a larger number of apps and a more tweakable system. Also, the S4 has better specs than any current WP8 device (my phone, the Samsung ATIV S, has hardware equivalent to that of the S3).
My boss has the Sony phone, and has had nothing but trouble with it. The features they advertise are there, and work well, but the USB port failed quickly (makes charging and synching tricky), the external speakers (including speakerphone) are very soft, and it has had various other problems. Definitely not recommended, unless the consideration of "high-end waterproof phone" overrules everything else.
Dear Omni ROM team,
ever since waiting for my upgrade to Android 4.0.4 on my LG Optimus 3D, I was wondering, how the community would treat such devices in the near future.
Why is a 2011 smartphone already considered "old" and why not ? The Optimus 3D is no exception here and I hope I can start a discussion about this matter here.
On my Optimus 3D I can run (nearly) any app, without problems, without frameloss. I can take photos in a good quality, I can listen to mp3s, use it as flashlight, I can use youtube, facebook or use it as a navigation system. It tells me about the weather, I can recieve emails and sms and in the end I can use it as phone. Just like any other smartphone.
I have to admit, I dont have OctaCore, I dont have 4 GB of RAM and I cant use the android PS2 emulator above 12 fps. But that is okay to me. Maybe adding a lighter to smartphones would be a good idea. Or a knife, or a screwdriver...
Im not one of those "Hey, I got the newest Android Custom ROM on my device, how about you ?" guys. But for sure I dont want to be the last guy on earth using 4.0.4. Also, I wont buy a new device, just to have a newer android running.
For example, I maybe think of the day that I want to download an app and it will throw out an error ala "You need Android 4.4 to run this", while I know, that my device is still able to run that app / still powerfull enough to run that app.
I just recieved a LG G2 from my provider today and already decided to sell it on eBay. It wont recieve Android 4.3 and probably around march 2014, LG might introduce Android 4.4 for it. Might...sounds just like the story of the Optimus 3D to me. Sounds just like the story of most other smartphone brands out there.
Google claims, KitKat "was made" for devices with 512 MB RAM. Hey, I DO have that ! :highfive:
So why cant I use it ? :crying:
I know, it will never come. Neither from LG, nor from Cyanogen. Maybe as OmniROM ? I dont think so.
But why is that ? Is it "just" the huge variety of different smartphone models that makes development teams concentrate on the "newer" ones only ?
Are there just too many different smartphones around...too many to cover them all with custom roms ?
Why even include a function like OTA into smartphones, if a smartphone is already considered "old" after 1 year and beeing forgotten ?
It happened on the notebook/netbook/laptop market already. 10+ year old devices running on WIndows 7. Linux, Mac OSX and even Android (x86) made it into the PC sector.
Even the HTC Dream has a higher Andorid version then mine now. And it (nearly) works perfect.
I can see Optimus 3D development coming to a stop soon on xda. I try to understand why, but it is not easy.
What are your thoughts ?
•Lack of proper documentation .. (similar to galaxy nexus)
•Lack of a dedicated device maintainer(must for omni rom )
• that time developers now shifted to newer devices
• optimus3d was never a flagship ..hence never got any real attention..
•too heavy
•dedicated device owners who got lg g2 decided to sell g2 instead of o3d
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•Lack of proper documentation .. (similar to galaxy nexus)
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I hate LG for that.
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•Lack of a dedicated device maintainer(must for omni rom )
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You dooo like the Optimus 3D *magic hand gesticulation*
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• that time developers now shifted to newer devices
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Switch back to the Optimus 3D...if you ever had one. *magic hand gesticulation*
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• optimus3d was never a flagship ..hence never got any real attention..
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It is still very powerfull...*magic hand gesticulation*
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•too heavy
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In terms of weight ?
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•dedicated device owners who got lg g2 decided to sell g2 instead of o3d
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Im not that dedicated owner who got lg g2 and sold it. *magic hand gesticulation*
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Maybe LG will re-think about their update policy next year... x'D
The Tab Pro 10.1 has tons of development activity. Tab S 10.5 not so much (i.e., practically none as far as roms). Just private messaged the top Developers in the Tab Pro forum asking if their work there can be ported to the Tab S. Hardware other than the screen is very similar. Seems like it should be doable (although I'm not a developer and there may be complications of which I am unaware).
Anyway, flare fired, emergency beacon activated. Let's hope we can get some port love here and get a solid rom or two going.
** They may need some guinea pigs to test things out. But these are extremely experienced recognized Devs and you should take some comfort in that.
UPDATE: All development for the 10.1 is for the SM-T520 which is the Exynos 5 wifi model. Should be no issues there.
TAB PRO 10.1:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
TAB S 10.5:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
Identical.
UPDATE:
Good news folks! Our little project here has resulted in a working, smooth and pretty dammed fast rom for the 10.5 (US Version). It is still in Beta but based upon my experience, everything seems to be working.
Special appreciation to @Shaheer who came here from the 10.1 Pro Forums and without the benefit of his own device built a working rom for us. My thanks also go out to all the smart people who teamed with him to make it happen.
Go give it a flash. It only gets better from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/sm-wip-rom-t2832360
** Update: Have just heard from @mrwookie6379 in the Tab Pro 10.1 forums. He has also expressed interest in developing for us. Cool.
There is a big difference between tab pro and tab s.
Maybe I'm wrong but the development is only on snapdragon version of the tab pro...
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There is a big difference between tab pro and tab s.
Maybe I'm wrong but the development is only on snapdragon version of the tab pro...
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All development for the 10.1 is for the SM-T520 which is the Exynos 5 wifi model. Should be no issues there.
TAB PRO 10.1:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
TAB S 10.5:
Chipset Exynos 5 Octa 5420
CPU Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU Mali-T628 MP6
Identical.
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If any of these devs ported CyanogenMod or aosp, I would love to take a look at their device directory. I am getting closer with my port but running into a crash with surfaceflinger and the mali driver.
My wife would be happy if I got this working so I could stop obsessing.
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If any of these devs ported CyanogenMod or aosp, I would love to take a look at their device directory. I am getting closer with my port but running into a crash with surfaceflinger and the mali driver.
My wife would be happy if I got this working so I could stop obsessing.
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i have the 10.1 and have been considering the S and so looking around here to make my decision. i will say that the Exynos component is probably going to prevent us from every seeing CM11 becase they dont develeop for it. also there is very little dev for the 10.1 and what little there is sees very little updates and most roms seem to be abandoned.
none of the 10.1 to date have developed far enough to make me want to install them yet.
you can look here to see them and then check OP for last update and you will see what i mean
Ah the mondrianwifi, I took a look at that one initially but unfortunately it had enough subtle differences it wasn't much use.
Edit: So just did some digging, still can't find any ports of cyanogenmod to 10.1 (SM-T520). Ill spend a little bit more time digging but as far as I can tell the closest port has been the exynos 5410 samsung galaxy s4 which is what I forked my current port.
When I said there was no development on the Tab Pro, I meant the T520 of course, as the T525 is snapdragon...
It seems I was right, I didn't see any cm11 work for the T520.
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When I said there was no development on the Tab Pro, I meant the T520 of course, as the T525 is snapdragon...
It seems I was right, I didn't see any cm11 work for the T520.
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By "development" are you referring only to CM? That's a pretty narrow definition of development. And of course no CM for Exynos but lots of TW based roms as you can see from the Tab Pro forum.
CM is awesome and clean and light and fast but you also give up the entire TW ecosystem including multiwindow which is a big price to pay for a little more speed.
Yes TW can go to the junk, CM is the best thing we could have on our tablets.
I consider TW based Rom more as tweaks / tuning than real development.
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Yes TW can go to the junk, CM is the best thing we could have on our tablets.
I consider TW based Rom more as tweaks / tuning than real development.
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Well using that argument, CM is just tweaked Android.
Yes of course ...........
Well so far no responses to my private messages from the developers at Tab Pro forum. Next step will be to post in the actual threads and ask nicely for help. These guys probably get a million PMs so I'm not surprised not to hear a response.
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And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
eousphoros said:
And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
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Contact UpInTheAir. He knows a lot about this stuff.
eousphoros said:
And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
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I know slim had been built for the 5410... maybe poking about their Gerrit may help?
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I know slim had been built for the 5410... maybe poking about their Gerrit may help?
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Unfortunately the 5410 doesn't use the mali gpu which is where I am currently getting a crash. I just imported a bunch of code from the arndale_octa (Raspberry pi like board that uses the 5420 SOC) and waiting for my build to finish.
eousphoros said:
Unfortunately the 5410 doesn't use the mali gpu which is where I am currently getting a crash. I just imported a bunch of code from the arndale_octa (Raspberry pi like board that uses the 5420 SOC) and waiting for my build to finish.
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Power VR...totally forgot. Does anything other than 5420 and arndale use the T628?
You think the crash is at the 3D render...or the handoff back to the a15 display controller?
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I know slim had been built for the 5410... maybe poking about their Gerrit may help?
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Poser said:
Power VR...totally forgot. Does anything other than 5420 and arndale use the T628?
You think the crash is at the 3D render...or the handoff back to the a15 display controller?
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5420, 5422, and the 5800 use the T628.
As for the crash it looks like its happening somewhere between hwcomposer, gralloc, libEGL, and libGLES_mali. I put that fork on pause while I try take a look at the arndale_octa mali code.
eousphoros said:
And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.
Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.
I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis.
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Thank you, I taught it was useless to argue with mitchellvi but you explained it very well.
I couldn't do as good as you did.
Thank you a lot
Orphee said:
Thank you, I taught it was useless to argue with mitchellvi but you explained it very well.
I couldn't do as good as you did.
Thank you a lot
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Lol, argue with me about what, that only CM development is real development? The entire Development section of any Samsung forum is dedicated to non-CM based roms and represents 95% of all development for that device - and simple they're not.
The purpose of this thread is to draw rom development to the Tab S 10.5. Denigrating TW developers and comparing their efforts to model rocketry doesn't help. As far as CM being the space shuttle, that ship is already built and on the pad, you're just looking for the launch codes.