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Hi,
I, after the long wait, foolishly updated my Xperia T to Android 4.3 (build 9.2.A.0.295). Before doing so I made a nandroid backup of my 4.1.2 install (can't remember what build). Only now do I realize this mistake as the current method for rooting requires you to start from a rooted Android 4.1.2 base. So this leaves me in a situation with a lot of questions that need answers.
Firstly, is there a back up technique that I can use (instead of nandroid) that doesn't require a rooted 4.3 device? And if so to what level does it backup (i.e what will I lose)? Or can I create a nandroid without a root? I would like to be able to use it as a safety net so that I don't lose everything if I screw something up.
If there is such a method I would like to root my device but I have been unable to find any instructions rooting from 4.3 for newbies like me. The current post by DaRk-LOrD just says "Install 4.1.2". How do I do that? Is it possible I can just skip downgrading and somehow go straight to installing CWM on 4.3 (I might be talking garbage, I don't know...)?
Also if I am to root I would like a way to get as close as possible to my current installation of Android 4.3 as possible (apps, app data, settings, etc.). How would I go about doing this? Maybe I install Android 4.1.2 from my nandroid I made before updating?
Also, does anyone know if it is likely we will be seeing a tool such as this one for Xperia T 4.3? Maybe if such a tool is in the works I should hold off for a bit longer.
I know these are a lot of question but I have been unable to find this information which is either relevant or applicable to my situation or what I find is just too complicated (steps are too broad and assume too much prior knowledge). If I have left out any information you need please don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks,
JamesStewy
JamesStewy said:
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I know these are a lot of question but I have been unable to find this information which is either relevant or applicable to my situation or what I find is just too complicated (steps are too broad and assume too much prior knowledge). If I have left out any information you need please don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks,
JamesStewy
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I have a short answer for you: 4.3 is not ready for prime time.
I recommend downgrading to 4.12, root it, install CWM, then flash another ROM of your choice. Look for downgrade to 4.12 threads, such as this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655182
Is your bootloader locked, or unlocked? If it is unlocked simply flash a custom kernel. Then flash the supersu zip file you can find in this forum. Next step is to flash the kernel from the ftf file, make sure to exclude everything else.
St.Jimmy90 said:
Is your bootloader locked, or unlocked? If it is unlocked simply flash a custom kernel. Then flash the supersu zip file you can find in this forum. Next step is to flash the kernel from the ftf file, make sure to exclude everything else.
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I do have an unlocked bootloader.
Does the steps you have outlined above root 4.3 with out a downgrade? Will this process wipe my phone (if so how can I get it back afterwards)? Also, where can I find "a custom kernel" (which one?), "supersu zip" (like the one from Dark Lords post? What version of supersu?) and "the ftf file" (the Xperia T, Android 4.3, build 295 ftf file?) ??? Sorry but I am too new to this to understand exactly what you are saying from what you gave me but it does sound like what I want .
Thanks,
JamesStewy
JamesStewy said:
I do have an unlocked bootloader.
Does the steps you have outlined above root 4.3 with out a downgrade? Will this process wipe my phone (if so how can I get it back afterwards)? Also, where can I find "a custom kernel" (which one?), "supersu zip" (like the one from Dark Lords post? What version of supersu?) and "the ftf file" (the Xperia T, Android 4.3, build 295 ftf file?) ??? Sorry but I am too new to this to understand exactly what you are saying from what you gave me but it does sound like what I want .
Thanks,
JamesStewy
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1. You will not have to downgrade
2. It will not wipe your phone
3. Download for example CM or Omni rom, extract the kernel and flash it via flashtool
4. http://download.chainfire.eu/382/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93.zip
5. Yes, the Xperia T .295 ftf file, if you were using it before
St.Jimmy90 said:
1. You will not have to downgrade
2. It will not wipe your phone
3. Download for example CM or Omni rom, extract the kernel and flash it via flashtool
4. http://download.chainfire.eu/382/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93.zip
5. Yes, the Xperia T .295 ftf file, if you were using it before
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Is there a way of doing this without CyanogenMod or OmniROM? I would really prefer to just stick with Sony's 4.3 just rooted.
You need a custom kernel with a recovery. If you already have a custom recovery installed you can skip this step
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You need a custom kernel with a recovery. If you already have a custom recovery installed you can skip this step
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"custom recovery"??? Sorry....
Can this be achieved from a what is basically a stock install of 4.3 with a load of apps on it?
You said that you did a nandroid backup. I'm pretty sure you did this in a recovery. There has been a guide of how to root stock 4.3 with unlocked bootloader. Search for it here and you will find it. If you have any further questions feel free to ask.
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You said that you did a nandroid backup. I'm pretty sure you did this in a recovery. There has been a guide of how to root stock 4.3 with unlocked bootloader. Search for it here and you will find it. If you have any further questions feel free to ask.
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It was a nandroid of 4.1.2 from an app. Can I make a nandroid of my 4.3 install without a root (that would be awesome)?
I will search for that post.
No you can't
This post is for TX (i would assume it is adaptable by downloading the T versions of the files) but it does say wipe personal data in the instructions which isn't really ideal.
There's Dark Lords post which I found originally which goes through the steps of having 4.1.2 installed and it it also says "do a factory reset" which isn't ideal either.
There is this post which looks quite promising but is about the Xperia V (could that be adapted?)
And that is the first three pages of searching "xperia t 4.3 root unlocked"
JamesStewy said:
This post is for TX (i would assume it is adaptable by downloading the T versions of the files) but it does say wipe personal data in the instructions which isn't really ideal.
There's Dark Lords post which I found originally which goes through the steps of having 4.1.2 installed and it it also says "do a factory reset" which isn't ideal either.
There is this post which looks quite promising but is about the Xperia V (could that be adapted?)
And that is the first three pages of searching "xperia t 4.3 root unlocked"
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I meant this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647496
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I meant this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647496
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Ok. I will give this a go. One thing, it doesn't specify a version or link for SuperSU, is the one from this post ok?
Thanks.
JamesStewy said:
Ok. I will give this a go. One thing, it doesn't specify a version or link for SuperSU, is the one from this post ok?
Thanks.
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It brings you to the same link as I gave you:
http://download.chainfire.eu/382/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93.zip
Which means you can use it
Whoops. Silly me . Thanks a lot, I will try this out when I have a bit more time.
Thanks Again,
JamesStewy
JamesStewy said:
Whoops. Silly me . Thanks a lot, I will try this out when I have a bit more time.
Thanks Again,
JamesStewy
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You're welcome
Rooted!
It worked .
For reference I found this post in the tread quite useful. I following this tutorial to back up most of my things before proceeding.
IMPORTANT:
This method is now obsolete and not needed, we are able to root directly onto 4.3 now thanks to geohot, please see towelroot thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
OLD METHOD:
I see many threads about rooting Android 4.3, especially with locked bootloaders, along with many users getting confused about it so decided to make this guide on how to get root on your Android 4.3 device
Unfortunately there is no method to root directly on the Xperia T/TL/TX/V with Android 4.3, we must downgrade first!
Step 1, Getting flashtool installed:
You need to download flashtool and install the latest drivers, this can all be found here and here
Step 2, Getting your device running Android 4.1.2 which is rootable!:
You need to download a 4.1.2 FTF file, I recommend using this one if you are an Xperia T user,
Use this one if you are an Xperia V user.
Use this one if you are an Xperia TX user
although any will do as long as has a build number earlier than 9.1.A.1.141
Next what you need to do is open up flashtool which you installed in Step 1. Next click on the lightning bolt button which is the flash button, flashmode should be selected by default, click OK!
Now you are in the firmware selection area, navigate to where you downloaded the FTF file using the browse button in the top right.
Select the correct firmware, then click OK!
It'll process a bit, then will tell you to connect your device, firstly put your cable into the computer/laptop first, then hold down the volume down button on your device and connect the micro USB part to the device.
If all goes well it will start flashing, finish and tell you to restart the phone, the process could easily take 15 minutes, so be patient.
Step 3, Lets root the device:
Try rooting with the root option within FlashTool
Should that not work try this:
You want to download bin4rys rooting toolkit, which is found here and here
This part you will be walked through in the command prompt of the toolkit, it will tell you what to do and when, it is very simple!
Step 4, Now we're rooted, we want a recovery:
Now we need to get CWM recovery for locked bootloaders installed!
Download CWM installer here
Next extract the folder to somewhere on your computer, connect your phone to the computer, remember to allow unknown sources to be installed and to allow usb debugging, these can be found in 'security' and 'developer options' respectively.
Once done, double click on 'install.bat' and let the installer do it's magic.
If you have issues with this step, take a look at the 'Unable to enter recovery' section in the CWM for locked bootloaders thread here
Step 5, Download a rooted 4.3 update:
If you are an Xperia T user download from here
If you are an Xperia V user download from here
If you are an Xperia TX user download from here
Now transfer the package to the SD card on your device.
Next you want to power off your device, once that is done power back on, when you hit the first vibrate you should see a blue led, start repeatedly pressing the volume up button, the led should turn green and you will enter into CWM recovery.
RECOMMENDED: Now you are in recovery you should do a complete wipe data/factory reset, now this can be skipped but if it leads to errors and problems then you may need to go back to step 1, you have been warned!
Head to install zip from SD card and locate to where you downloaded the file, then flash the file!
Step 6, Enjoy:
You should now be all up to date with Android 4.3 and have root access, feel free to comment and ask questions in the thread if you are having problems or things didn't work as they should.
You also now should have PhilZ Touch Recovery installed which will allow you to install mods, make backups etc. To enter it is the exact same procedure as for CWM earlier on!
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I hope this has been a pain and stress free experience for you and that it worked
matt4321 said:
I see many threads about rooting Android 4.3, especially with locked bootloaders, along with many users getting confused about it so decided to make this guide on how to get root on your Android 4.3 device
Unfortunately there is no method to root directly on the Xperia T/TL/TX/V with Android 4.3, we must downgrade first!
Hello, can i root without cmw?
I hope this has been a pain and stress free experience for you and that it worked
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Hi, works on Xperia TX?
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matt4321 said:
I see many threads about rooting Android 4.3, especially with locked bootloaders, along with many users getting confused about it so decided to make this guide on how to get root on your Android 4.3 device
Unfortunately there is no method to root directly on the Xperia T/TL/TX/V with Android 4.3, we must downgrade first!
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Hi, can i root whitout cmw?
augustox said:
Hi, works on Xperia TX?
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Hi, can i root whitout cmw?
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It will now that you have a 4.3 rooted update in the dev section
No, CWM must be used to get up to 4.3
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It will now that you have a 4.3 rooted update in the dev section
No, CWM must be used to get up to 4.3
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Ok. But can i use OTA to get up to 4.3?
augustox said:
Ok. But can i use OTA to get up to 4.3?
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No, this is why you need to follow the guide, if you OTA, you will lose root
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No, this is why you need to follow the guide, if you OTA, you will lose root
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The CWM4XperiaT_v8i_JB.zip works on Xperia TX?
augustox said:
The CWM4XperiaT_v8i_JB.zip works on Xperia TX?
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Yes, that should work fine
I have instaled CWM recovery, but phone stucks with logo "Sony". Is it something I am doing wrong?
matt4321 said:
No, this is why you need to follow the guide, if you OTA, you will lose root
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You are wrong. You just have to do it rigth.
Just like i described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2661698
[Lt30p]Keeping root with OTA-update!
Sent from my LT30p using xda app-developers app
Skyguar said:
I have instaled CWM recovery, but phone stucks with logo "Sony". Is it something I am doing wrong?
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Which step did you get too? what device do you have? which ftf did you use?
thurin said:
You are wrong. You just have to do it rigth.
Just like i described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2661698
[Lt30p]Keeping root with OTA-update!
Sent from my LT30p using xda app-developers app
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Fair enough, if it works for some people they can go this method. OTA updates with root isn't fool proof though so some users may find they loose it.
This is also more for people who have already OTA updated and don't have root
matt4321 said:
Which step did you get too? what device do you have? which ftf did you use?
Already sort it out, thanks for the guide!
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Skyguar said:
Which step did you get too? what device do you have? which ftf did you use?
Already sort it out, thanks for the guide!
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glad you got it sorted mate!
hey
im just wondering
if im doing this, are they gonna wipe out the entire data inside my phone??
because for some time, i was thinking about unlock the bootloader (even receive the request code from sony)
but after doing some research, i found many people regretting their decision to unlock, and even try to relock that thing
-thelastTsubasa
Works on my Xperia TX (locked bootloader), but i want to use the T9 Xperia Keyboard, can you give it to me please?
squillaciukm said:
hey
im just wondering
if im doing this, are they gonna wipe out the entire data inside my phone??
because for some time, i was thinking about unlock the bootloader (even receive the request code from sony)
but after doing some research, i found many people regretting their decision to unlock, and even try to relock that thing
-thelastTsubasa
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If you are on 4.1.2 then you can root and backup your data with Titanium Backup, If you're already on 4.3 and have to downgrade then you will have to wipe, otherwise you can get into problems
augustox said:
Works on my Xperia TX (locked bootloader), but i want to use the T9 Xperia Keyboard, can you give it to me please?
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I don't have a copy, download an official release from the dev section and get the apk out the /system/app folder
hey its me again
right now, i've done downloading all the required file.
just in step 5 (for xperia v) i only download LT25i.199_ch_deodex_root_philz_v1.zip
so, do we need to download LT25i_9.2.A.1.199_1269-5999_customized_CH
whats the difference between those two.
is it possible to root with flashtool instead the step 3? because i cant download from uploaded.net (idk why) in any browser please help
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If you are on 4.1.2 then you can root and backup your data with Titanium Backup, If you're already on 4.3 and have to downgrade then you will have to wipe, otherwise you can get into problems
I don't have a copy, download an official release from the dev section and get the apk out the /system/app folder
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I can't find it
isko95 said:
is it possible to root with flashtool instead the step 3? because i cant download from uploaded.net (idk why) in any browser please help
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try and see, if it doesn't work look for a mirror in the root many android thread, I'm sure there will be one
squillaciukm said:
hey its me again
right now, i've done downloading all the required file.
just in step 5 (for xperia v) i only download LT25i.199_ch_deodex_root_philz_v1.zip
so, do we need to download LT25i_9.2.A.1.199_1269-5999_customized_CH
whats the difference between those two.
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I believe the first one is the flashable zip and the second one is the ftf
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I can't find it
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make a backup of it before you update?
matt4321 said:
try and see, if it doesn't work look for a mirror in the root many android thread, I'm sure there will be one
I believe the first one is the flashable zip and the second one is the ftf
make a backup of it before you update?
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Working rooting with flashtool instead of step 3, now i have 4.3 rooted
Hi guys, My names Tom, i have recently bought an Xperia Z1 to replace my nackered S4, im really impressed with the phone except the wifi range is so poor on it! After some googling some people agree its not so good but others are fine with it, whether its a problem with a specific batch of phones or what i dont know. But yeah done some googling and found this page...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/help/fix-wifi-signal-problem-t2190462
Says there i need root, so again done some googling, and from what i understand i can downgrade firmware, then i can use Vroot to gain root access? So i have downloaded flashtool i think it was called? I cant remember been on the go since 3am! And i also downloaded the FTF file and i also downloaded vroot. I have done rooting and rom installs and all this jazz before with my samsung so i have a grasp of whats going on so to speak, but not done a Z1 before and this seems to be a bit of a longer winded task. So problem is, once i have root access will upgrading to a more recent firmware again revoke my root access? So to speak.
Also if anyone has any advice on the wifi issue that would be great, im really enjoying the phone in its standard form at the moment so dont want to go for a custom rom just yet. Just trying to make sure im doing it right so i dont balls it up lol!
Also just to add i have done a bit of reading (hopefully you can tell) just sometimes a bit of tailored help goes alot further than hours and hours of reading stuff, hopefully that makes sense aha, Thank you everyone :laugh:
xda official position is to warn anyone that uses Vroot that is sends your IMEI number to an IP address in china for no known reason.
Use it at your own risk
these are the steps to follow
1) Flash a FTF ending in 534 (Files and instructions to be found in the mega collection thread in the general section)
2) Install dual recovery (Files and instructions found in the dual recovery thread in the cross device development section)
3) Flash a pre rooted ROM of your choice (Files and instructions found int he ROM of your choice thread in the development section)
That's is all that is needed, 3 easy steps...
gregbradley said:
xda official position is to warn anyone that uses Vroot that is sends your IMEI number to an IP address in china for no known reason.
Use it at your own risk
these are the steps to follow
1) Flash a FTF ending in 534 (Files and instructions to be found in the mega collection thread in the general section)
2) Install dual recovery (Files and instructions found in the dual recovery thread in the cross device development section)
3) Flash a pre rooted ROM of your choice (Files and instructions found int he ROM of your choice thread in the development section)
That's is all that is needed, 3 easy steps...
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Ah right on, thank you sir, that does seem alot easier than the method i had divised.
Is there a stock rooted rom i can use?
tomw1123 said:
Ah right on, thank you sir, that does seem alot easier than the method i had divised.
Is there a stock rooted rom i can use?
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Yes
gregbradley said:
these are the steps to follow
1) Flash a FTF ending in 534 (Files and instructions to be found in the mega collection thread in the general section)
2) Install dual recovery (Files and instructions found in the dual recovery thread in the cross device development section)
3) Flash a pre rooted ROM of your choice (Files and instructions found int he ROM of your choice thread in the development section)
That's is all that is needed, 3 easy steps...
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gregbradley said:
Yes
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I cant find the bloody thread :crying: I think im being stupid.
http://prntscr.com/3cfdhp
tomw1123 said:
I cant find the bloody thread :crying: I think im being stupid.
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Yes, you are, ..:laugh:.. just kidding...
Here you go, this is the latest one Update Pre-Rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711982
Haha thank you! I was looking for a thread called "Rom of your choice"
gregbradley said:
http://prntscr.com/3cfdhp
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ROFLMAO!! ..you are the Best! :good:
tomw1123 said:
Haha thank you! I was looking for a thread called "Rom of your choice"
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Hahaha
Sorry, I was meaning that you choose your ROM...
Just read the OPs, see which one you like the sound of, make sure its a suitable for your phone and flash it...
Thanks for the help so far guys, just downloading a mass of files so i have everything ready to follow your instructions, bloody internet out here in the sticks means im going to have to give it a go tomorrow, probably for the best considering the amount of sleep i have had lately
gregbradley said:
xda official position is to warn anyone that uses Vroot that is sends your IMEI number to an IP address in china for no known reason.
Use it at your own risk
these are the steps to follow
1) Flash a FTF ending in 534 (Files and instructions to be found in the mega collection thread in the general section)
2) Install dual recovery (Files and instructions found in the dual recovery thread in the cross device development section)
3) Flash a pre rooted ROM of your choice (Files and instructions found int he ROM of your choice thread in the development section)
That's is all that is needed, 3 easy steps...
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hi ^^
is flashing a FTF with ending in 534 realy required?
in DualRecovery instructions there is no rom-version specified and in the instructions for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711982 ther is also no rom-version specified who should be pre-installed.
i havnt tried it jet, so i wanted to ask before ^^
k.r.
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oh, ok, sry -.-"
missundersood something in the rom-thread.
but im now bit confused. in the rom-thread it points me to the required pre-rootet rom, but in that threat it tells me i must have a rootet 14.1.G.1.534.
so is the 534-rom in the mega-collection preroutet? if not, why i need it then?
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missundersood something in the rom-thread.
but im now bit confused. in the rom-thread it points me to the required pre-rootet rom, but in that threat it tells me i must have a rootet 14.1.G.1.534.
so is the 534-rom in the mega-collection preroutet? if not, why i need it then?
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This is why I said to Root first with Bin4ry instead of Installing DualRecovery only, which will granted Root anyway.. There is no pre-rooted .534 in mega-collection, they are all stock, and you need that one because is the only one which can be rooted directly with Bin4ry. Also I will search for the .534 by NUT to avoid IMEI lost, not because you will but because many reported they lost it after flashing stock .534. It should be in Post #3 in Stock Pre-Rooted .290 by NUT.
eclyptos said:
This is why I said to Root first with Bin4ry instead of Installing DualRecovery only, which will granted Root anyway.. There is no pre-rooted .534 in mega-collection, they are all stock, and you need that one because is the only one which can be rooted directly with Bin4ry. Also I will search for the .534 by NUT to avoid IMEI lost, not because you will but because many reported they lost it after flashing stock .534. It should be in Post #3 in Stock Pre-Rooted .290 by NUT.
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so can you pls explain me pls step by step? ^^"
from where i get the "Bin4ary"-rooting-methode?
the pinned "Xperia Z1 How to blabla thread" seems to be outdated.
i had before a Xperia Z, so i miss the "key-combinations" for hard-restart and hard-shutdown and so on.
what keys i must hold to can connect with flashtool?
sry, for my noobish questions ^^"
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i downloaded 534 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439328 (2nd post)
so:
- i flash the .534 with flashtool
- do root with "Bin4ry" (from where i can get?)
- install DualRecovery
- flash ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711982)
correct?
spam.anonym said:
i downloaded 534 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439328 (2nd post)
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This one is from krabappal, not NUT, but should be the same, check always for which model it is.
spam.anonym said:
so:
- i flash the .534 with flashtool
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Yes,
spam.anonym said:
- do root with "Bin4ry" (from where i can get?)
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Yes...(from XDA),
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- install DualRecovery
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Yes,
spam.anonym said:
- flash ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711982)
correct?
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Correct.
There absolutely no use in using bin4rys root method if in the next step you install dual recovery on a 534 FTF
Installing dual recovery on a 534 FTF will also root your phone.
Flashed the 534 now onto the custom recovery!
Custom recovery flashed, onto the rom now...
gregbradley said:
There absolutely no use in using bin4rys root method if in the next step you install dual recovery on a 534 FTF
Installing dual recovery on a 534 FTF will also root your phone.
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Ok, understood, but why this was not mentioned nowhere on instructions to Root your phone? We was saying all over the threads that we have to root with Bin4ry or other first, now people come out whit this, that the recovery root the phone.
eclyptos said:
Ok, understood, but why this was not mentioned nowhere on instructions to Root your phone? We was saying all over the threads that we have to root with Bin4ry or other first, now people come out whit this, that the recovery root the phone.
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It is in the XZDualRecovery thread, in instructions for UNROOTED devices.
Hi all,
I have a c6903 Z1 currently on Kitkat 4.4.2 (after an OTA update I really wish I'd never done) and I want to root it so I can install the SD card permission fix - can't put up with not being able to write to external SD, it's infuriating. If I can fix that, I can probably put up with KitKat.
If I'm still not happy with that then I want to go back to 4.3
Having read a lot, and I mean pages, and pages, about it, and having to downgrade, I've picked up that I would have to use NUT's .534 ftf to avoid losing the IMEI, and then I was going to root with vRoot.
Does anyone know, does that install Superuser or will I need the Superuser zip too?
At that point I want to then install recovery, so I'm looking at NUT's Z1 Locked Dual Recovery.
I rekon that should all be fine.
To get it back on KitKat I should then put the 757 zip on my SD card and flash in recovery, reboot and flash the stripped ftf with Flashtool, along with the recovery again.
If I still don't like it, I could then just repeat the above, but with the .136 zip and stripped ftf.
Am I thinking right here?
The only thing that's a bit worrying is that, for example, the .136 update thread says to come from .290.
Is this so, do I have to install that first, or can I go straight from the newly rooted .534 directly?
Sorry if this has been answered before, but my eyes are killing me staring at this screen now.
The only other thing I'm thinking is to just not root, and simply flash a Jelly Bean full ftf.
I'd rather have root and recovery though.
Thanks,
Mick.
wow, you didn't read much
DO NOT USE VROOT, IT SEND YOUR IMEI TO AN IP ADDRESS IN CHINA.
To get root on 757, just follow the step sin my signature
No need to use any root methods or unlock the bootloader
3 steps, 5 minutes work max.... a bit longer if you have slow download speeds
gregbradley said:
wow, you didn't read much
DO NOT USE VROOT, IT SEND YOUR IMEI TO AN IP ADDRESS IN CHINA.
To get root on 757, just follow the step sin my signature
No need to use any root methods or unlock the bootloader
3 steps, 5 minutes work max.... a bit longer if you have slow download speeds
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Just wasn't looking in the right places, so it seems.There is an awful lot of info on here though, and one link leads to another, however very informative reading.
Thank you so much for your help, don't mean to be a pain, and I do appreciate it.
All you guys do an amazing job.
Will it make any difference if I use the Z1 locked recovery instead of the XZ one, or should I just use the XZ anyway? Does it matter?
MickieH said:
Just wasn't looking in the right places, so it seems.There is an awful lot of info on here though, and one link leads to another, however very informative reading.
Thank you so much for your help, don't mean to be a pain, and I do appreciate it.
All you guys do an amazing job.
Will it make any difference if I use the Z1 locked recovery instead of the XZ one, or should I just use the XZ anyway? Does it matter?
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download the file for the Z1 from [NUT]s page since that one is for this phone.
the XZ is for the xperia Z and that is a different phone. It is always advisable to download and flash things that are deigned/made for the phone you have, not another phone....
u don't need to install the 290 version first, get nut's 534 stock, then install dualrecovery and go straight with the 136 one.
Check nut's instructions or use this youtube video which is foolprove.
youtube.com/watch?v=1aq9YTlfCgc
help
I have an unrooted sony Xperia z1 (C6902), and I want to have the timeshift video and 4k video recording features on my phone, please help me out,
I don't want to loose my warranty,
Tried to install z2 super camera apps from various threads but didn't worked,
gregbradley said:
download the file for the Z1 from [NUT]s page since that one is for this phone.
the XZ is for the xperia Z and that is a different phone. It is always advisable to download and flash things that are deigned/made for the phone you have, not another phone....
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Thanks again, and sorry, it does complicate things as I have the Xperia Z and a Z1.
I'll go with the Z1 recovery then.
Your help is greatly appreciated, it really is.
Sometimes you just can't see the fire for the smoke, you know.
Thanks again,
Mick.
MickieH said:
Thanks again, and sorry, it does complicate things as I have the Xperia Z and a Z1.
I'll go with the Z1 recovery then.
Your help is greatly appreciated, it really is.
Sometimes you just can't see the fire for the smoke, you know.
Thanks again,
Mick.
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I am not sure if we got our wires crossed before.
the XZDR installer will install dual recovery on your phone from PC
the Z1 flashable file will upgrade to the latest version from recovery itself, but will only work on a Z1.
gregbradley said:
I am not sure if we got our wires crossed before.
the XZDR installer will install dual recovery on your phone from PC
the Z1 flashable file will upgrade to the latest version from recovery itself, but will only work on a Z1.
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Oh, right, well, I've downloaded this installer -> Z1-lockeddualrecovery2.7.123-BETA from NUT's site.
I'll flash NUT's .534 ftf with flashtool first, then I'll run the installer from my lappy, and that should root and install the recovery.
I have also downloaded the Z1-lockeddualrecovery2.7.123-BETA.flashable - I assume that's what I need to flash after flashing another ROM if it doesn't include it's own recovery.
I have noticed some ROMS have earlier version recoveries, like .80, built in. Can I still flash the .123 on to of those with no issues? I have read there had been some issues with flashing over older recoveries.
Has anyone figured out why the IMEI was being lost? Was it due to the baseband
I've already got the drivers installed, in fact I successfully flashed back to .136 just to try it (last flashing I did was on my Arc S, so been a while) last night as I just couldn't be bothered with KitKat anymore.
Thanks again,
Mick.
MickieH said:
I have noticed some ROMS have earlier version recoveries, like .80, built in. Can I still flash the .123 on to of those with no issues? I have read there had been some issues with flashing over older recoveries.
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If the installation was successfully then it doesn't matter. The older one working well. In the case you want flash the newets one then you have to wipe your phone with a stock FTF.
MickieH said:
Has anyone figured out why the IMEI was being lost? Was it due to the baseband
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kind of, but don't worry, you will have your IMEI back after upgrade again.
I can open a topic for this question, but i'll just ask it here to prevent extra spam etc hehe.
If i get to a 757 rooted firmware using these methods, and i want to go to a non rooted firmware like 769 if it comes out. Will that be just a matter of reflasing the tft that belongs to that firmware using flashtool, or do i have to make more steps?
Thanks for answering!
saintgein said:
I can open a topic for this question, but i'll just ask it here to prevent extra spam etc hehe.
If i get to a 757 rooted firmware using these methods, and i want to go to a non rooted firmware like 769 if it comes out. Will that be just a matter of reflasing the tft that belongs to that firmware using flashtool, or do i have to make more steps?
Thanks for answering!
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When 769 will be out then NUT will have Pre-Rooted FTF like the 757, so you will have just to repeat the same steps. If you will want go to 769 Stock then 1 step will be required, flash it via Flashtool.
I want to remind you also that we do not predict future so we don't know what Google will do to they future Firmwares so the steps can be less or more, nobody know it.
Just one more thing, sorry to be a pain.
I'm happy with the process, flash NUT's. 534 ftf, then run the recovery installer to get root and recovery.
I don't want to install a custom rom right now.
I either want to end up on 4.3 with root and recovery, or 4.4.2, root, recovery, and the SD card fix.
If I use the zip and stripped ftf files from NUT's download page, I'll still retain root access, is that right?
Then just reflash the recovery zip before rebooting, and job done?
I've had no issues with the stock .136 firmware I've currently downgraded to other than the NFC icon not appearing when active. Something I've gathered can be fixed by editing the build.prop, but doesn't bother me anyway.
MickieH said:
If I use the zip and stripped ftf files from NUT's download page, I'll still retain root access, is that right?
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Yes, that's why is called Pre-rooted.
MickieH said:
Then just reflash the recovery zip before rebooting, and job done?
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No, the Recovery will still there from the first installation, it will not be wiped. After installing zip and strippied files, you will be able to boot into recovery.
eclyptos said:
Yes, that's why is called Pre-rooted.
No, the Recovery will still there from the first installation, it will not be wiped. After installing zip and strippied files, you will be able to boot into recovery.
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Ok, thank you for your help, I understand now, just needed to be clear before I went ahead.
Better to ask than mess it up.
To get root on 757, just follow the step sin my signature
Where to find steps??
I really am getting confused with a lot of different info, please help with simple instructions.
maid said:
Where to find steps??
I really am getting confused with a lot of different info, please help with simple instructions.
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Yes, I had the same problem, there's lots of info on here. There's hundreds of pages to read and it can get confusing.
I'll assume your phone hasn't been messed with. i.e. The bootloader is locked, and it's not rooted, and that you're using a Windows PC.
If you have changed your phone, let us know.
Make sure you have USB debugging turned on in your Developer Options, and Unknown sources in the Security settings.
To enable Developer Options in your settings, go to Settings, About phone, and keep taping Build number until it says 'You are now a Developer'
You'll need to download the latest version of Flashtool from here --> http://www.flashtool.net/download.php
You'll need to install the drivers for your phone too. The driver installer is in the flashtool/drivers folder.
Ok, so this is what I've gathered so far :
This is the link to the steps, thanks to gregbradley --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52407809&postcount=2
If you follow those, you'll end up with a rooted phone with whatever stock based rom you fancy.
Now the following are my thoughts, and what I've learned so far, but I'm not an expert.
My advice would be read more, and make sure you feel comfortable with what you are going to do, before you do it.
If you are unsure about anything, ask.
You'll need to use Flashtool to flash your phone.
The second post here,from DoomLord, shows how to connect your phone in flash mode --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565 - Basically turn the phone off, then press volume down and connect to the PC via USB when Flashtool tells you to.
I downloaded the .534 ftf from NUT's download page which is here --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/
I downloaded this file --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMS5HLjEuNTM0X1tOVVRdLmZ0Zi50b3JyZW50
You have to download that with your torrent program.
If you don't know how to do that, I've uploaded the ftf to my cloud storage.
You can direct download the .534 ftf here --> https://mega.co.nz/#!mgwkAagR!6_iTB3LwVkGz6yvSaKQsEVPtyaIPq3BJGFCk1EDw9XQ
Place the .534 ftf in the c:/flashtool/firmwares folder
Make sure your phone is fully charged, and back up anything you want keeping, as flashing will wipe your phone.
Now run Flashtool, click the Flash icon (top left) and select the .534 ftf.Flashing the .534 ftf that NUT provided will prevent loss of IMEI.
Don't mess with any settings, and click Flash, and follow the instructions on screen.
That will return your phone to stock 14.1.G.1.534
Download the Z1 Locked Dual Recovery Installer from NUT's page --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=WjEtbG9ja2VkZHVhbHJlY292ZXJ5Mi43LjEyMy1CRVRBLmZsYXNoYWJsZS56aXA=
Connect your phone to your PC and run the install.
That will root your phone, and install recovery.
From there you can then install whatever stock based ROM you want.
If you want your phone on KitKat 4.4.2, rooted, with recovery, then download the .757 files from NUT's download page.
You'd need the flashable zip --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMy5BLjAuNzU3LmZsYXNoYWJsZS56aXAudG9ycmVudA==
Download is via torrent.
Flash that zip from recovery.
The stripped part --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMy5BLjAuNzU3X1N0cmlwcGVkLmZ0Zg==
Flash that from Flashtool
That should be it.
Unless your bootloader is unlocked, do not try to flash anything other than stock based roms as it won't work, and will brick your phone.
Hope that helps :good:
MickieH said:
Yes, I had the same problem, there's lots of info on here. There's hundreds of pages to read and it can get confusing.
I'll assume your phone hasn't been messed with. i.e. The bootloader is locked, and it's not rooted, and that you're using a Windows PC.
If you have changed your phone, let us know.
Make sure you have USB debugging turned on in your Developer Options, and Unknown sources in the Security settings.
To enable Developer Options in your settings, go to Settings, About phone, and keep taping Build number until it says 'You are now a Developer'
You'll need to download the latest version of Flashtool from here --> http://www.flashtool.net/download.php
You'll need to install the drivers for your phone too. The driver installer is in the flashtool/drivers folder.
Ok, so this is what I've gathered so far :
This is the link to the steps, thanks to gregbradley --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52407809&postcount=2
If you follow those, you'll end up with a rooted phone with whatever stock based rom you fancy.
Now the following are my thoughts, and what I've learned so far, but I'm not an expert.
My advice would be read more, and make sure you feel comfortable with what you are going to do, before you do it.
If you are unsure about anything, ask.
You'll need to use Flashtool to flash your phone.
The second post here,from DoomLord, shows how to connect your phone in flash mode --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565 - Basically turn the phone off, then press volume down and connect to the PC via USB when Flashtool tells you to.
I downloaded the .534 ftf from NUT's download page which is here --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/
I downloaded this file --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMS5HLjEuNTM0X1tOVVRdLmZ0Zi50b3JyZW50
You have to download that with your torrent program.
If you don't know how to do that, I've uploaded the ftf to my cloud storage.
You can direct download the .534 ftf here --> https://mega.co.nz/#!mgwkAagR!6_iTB3LwVkGz6yvSaKQsEVPtyaIPq3BJGFCk1EDw9XQ
Place the .534 ftf in the c:/flashtool/firmwares folder
Make sure your phone is fully charged, and back up anything you want keeping, as flashing will wipe your phone.
Now run Flashtool, click the Flash icon (top left) and select the .534 ftf.Flashing the .534 ftf that NUT provided will prevent loss of IMEI.
Don't mess with any settings, and click Flash, and follow the instructions on screen.
That will return your phone to stock 14.1.G.1.534
Download the Z1 Locked Dual Recovery Installer from NUT's page --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=WjEtbG9ja2VkZHVhbHJlY292ZXJ5Mi43LjEyMy1CRVRBLmZsYXNoYWJsZS56aXA=
Connect your phone to your PC and run the install.
That will root your phone, and install recovery.
From there you can then install whatever stock based ROM you want.
If you want your phone on KitKat 4.4.2, rooted, with recovery, then download the .757 files from NUT's download page.
You'd need the flashable zip --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMy5BLjAuNzU3LmZsYXNoYWJsZS56aXAudG9ycmVudA==
Download is via torrent.
Flash that zip from recovery.
The stripped part --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMy5BLjAuNzU3X1N0cmlwcGVkLmZ0Zg==
Flash that from Flashtool
That should be it.
Unless your bootloader is unlocked, do not try to flash anything other than stock based roms as it won't work, and will brick your phone.
Hope that helps :good:
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Bootloader is unlocked I have flashed firmware before but not rooted.
My main reason for wanting to root was to get rid of apps I dont want like the google ones.
Do you already have a recovery installed?
If not, installing the Z1 locked dual recovery will also root your phone. Just make sure USB debugging is turned on, plug your phone in normally, and click install.
As per my post above, I've just flashed NUT's .534 ftf, booted up, then ran the recovery installer, and it's working well.
I can boot into recovery, and have already done a nandroid backup. Best to do that before anything else.
All I have to do now is choose a rom and flash it.
In all honesty, if your bootloader is unlocked, I'd probably flash a custom kernel which has recovery and root already. I don't know much about flashing with unlocked bootloaders as I don't intend to unlock mine just yet.
Did you backup your TA partition before unlocking?
MickieH said:
Do you already have a recovery installed? No
If not, installing the Z1 locked dual recovery will also root your phone. Just make sure USB debugging is turned on, plug your phone in normally, and click install.
As per my post above, I've just flashed NUT's .534 ftf, booted up, then ran the recovery installer, and it's working well.
I can boot into recovery, and have already done a nandroid backup. Best to do that before anything else.
All I have to do now is choose a rom and flash it.
In all honesty, if your bootloader is unlocked, I'd probably flash a custom kernel which has recovery and root already. I don't know much about flashing with unlocked bootloaders as I don't intend to unlock mine just yet.
Did you backup your TA partition before unlocking?
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No
If I flash a custom kernel do I just use flashtool?
Hi all,
I havnt flashed a device since the first android ROMS for the HTC HD2, so that gives you an idea of how rusty I am, so please bare with me. I've been reading and searching for hours and my eyes feel like they are bleeding so I'm typing this plea for help whle I atill have some vision.
I ve got a c6903 z1 running the latest 5.1.1 update. stock kernel etc, locked bootloader.
I was on 5.02 rooted and now want to root 5.1.1
After lots of reading I realise that I need to downgrade to 4.4.4 kitkat, then root then install dual recovery, then installl a pre rooted 5.1.1... FIRSTLY - Does this sound right? are these the right steps to root 5.1.1?
Secondly, It took me a while finding Generic .108 ftf files but now I've found a few (through the ftf 'mega thread') and dont know which one I need... the options are:
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_1276-7939_R3C Generic MY.ftf 1060174KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Customized KR.ftf 948416KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Customized UK.ftf 1034553KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic-MEA_1277-2880_R5C.ftf 1010011KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic FR 1276-5833_R5C.ftf 1019704KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic IT 1276-0557.ftf 1050780KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic RU 1276-7743.ftf 973615KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic_SG_1276-7937_R3C.ftf 1048335KB
Will any of these work considering I'm not staying on 4.4.4?
I assumed I could safely use the 'UK' file from the above list but then got paranoid I might brick my z1 by flashing a Ukranian ROM lol.
I've now got 'the fear' and am afraid I might **** this whole process up and brick my device.
which reminds me, one last thing... Ive downloaded the official SONY Flashtool (ver. 0.9.19.8).. is this the right tool for the job? I seem to remember reading that the official flashtool only works on unlocked bootloaders, but I've read so much im confused as hell at this point.
Sorry for the long post,
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Correct. There is no direct root for 5.1.1 currently. You could also downgrade to 5.0.2 instead, it doesn't really make a difference between that and 4.4.
It doesn't really matter what your interim ROM is as long as you do a clean flash when updating to 5.1.1 again.
Flashtool is the correct tool to be using. It has a utility called XperiFirm built it. You can use that to get any FTF that's publically available so that you don't have to depend on FTF threads.
The only way to have rooted 5.1.1 is with a pre-rooted zip, so you'll have to use PRFCreator to create that zip if there isn't one already posted for the specific variant you want to use.
thesweeney80 said:
Hi all,
I havnt flashed a device since the first android ROMS for the HTC HD2, so that gives you an idea of how rusty I am, so please bare with me. I've been reading and searching for hours and my eyes feel like they are bleeding so I'm typing this plea for help whle I atill have some vision.
I ve got a c6903 z1 running the latest 5.1.1 update. stock kernel etc, locked bootloader.
I was on 5.02 rooted and now want to root 5.1.1
After lots of reading I realise that I need to downgrade to 4.4.4 kitkat, then root then install dual recovery, then installl a pre rooted 5.1.1... FIRSTLY - Does this sound right? are these the right steps to root 5.1.1?
Secondly, It took me a while finding Generic .108 ftf files but now I've found a few (through the ftf 'mega thread') and dont know which one I need... the options are:
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_1276-7939_R3C Generic MY.ftf 1060174KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Customized KR.ftf 948416KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Customized UK.ftf 1034553KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic-MEA_1277-2880_R5C.ftf 1010011KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic FR 1276-5833_R5C.ftf 1019704KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic IT 1276-0557.ftf 1050780KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic RU 1276-7743.ftf 973615KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic_SG_1276-7937_R3C.ftf 1048335KB
Will any of these work considering I'm not staying on 4.4.4?
I assumed I could safely use the 'UK' file from the above list but then got paranoid I might brick my z1 by flashing a Ukranian ROM lol.
I've now got 'the fear' and am afraid I might **** this whole process up and brick my device.
which reminds me, one last thing... Ive downloaded the official SONY Flashtool (ver. 0.9.19.8).. is this the right tool for the job? I seem to remember reading that the official flashtool only works on unlocked bootloaders, but I've read so much im confused as hell at this point.
Sorry for the long post,
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hey there! Welcome to the Z1 community
All you have to do is make sure you flash the ftf specific to your device. As long as it says C6903 in the ftf, you're good to go. all these locations are just country specific customizations with some apps and stuff. I'd say you can just flash the SG ftf for a mostly bloat free system.
In addition, you can't use the SONY flashtool (EMMA) unless you have an unlocked bootloader. I'd recommend you use flashtool (just google it) which lets you flash on both lock and unlocked bootloaders. Once you flash KK, use one of the rooting programs (Turn on USB debugging, and connect it to your computer, run the application and go through the steps. Let me know if you need help on what method of root to use.)
Once rooted, you should have a recovery, which should let you flash a prerooted zip easily.
If you have an unlocked bootloader, just flash any custom kernel through fastboot, boot into its recovery By pressing vol up or down at boot logo) and flash the zip.
Final tip is, make sure you have the prerooted zip on your sd card before you flash a custom kernel, as not all can mount to the PC from the reovery and flashing an incompatible kernel (such as a 4.4.4 kernel on a 5.0 rom) won't let you boot into the ROM.
Feel free to ask if you have any doubts, come across any issues, or need any help at all.
SOURCE: I flashed a customized TW ftf on a Singapore bought C6902 which I'm using in India with no issues at all.
xasbo said:
Correct. There is no direct root for 5.1.1 currently. You could also downgrade to 5.0.2 instead, it doesn't really make a difference between that and 4.4.
It doesn't really matter what your interim ROM is as long as you do a clean flash when updating to 5.1.1 again.
Flashtool is the correct tool to be using. It has a utility called XperiFirm built it. You can use that to get any FTF that's publically available so that you don't have to depend on FTF threads.
The only way to have rooted 5.1.1 is with a pre-rooted zip, so you'll have to use PRFCreator to create that zip if there isn't one already posted for the specific variant you want to use.
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Thanks for the quick reply mate. Sounds good, I might just go to 5.02 then as rooting that was fairly painless.
Ive already found a pre-rooted zip for stock 5.1.1 so I think I'm good to go on that one. Almost ready to dive in... thanks for clearing that up.
AnrgKrshn said:
Hey there! Welcome to the Z1 community
All you have to do is make sure you flash the ftf specific to your device. As long as it says C6903 in the ftf, you're good to go. all these locations are just country specific customizations with some apps and stuff. I'd say you can just flash the SG ftf for a mostly bloat free system.
In addition, you can't use the SONY flashtool (EMMA) unless you have an unlocked bootloader. I'd recommend you use flashtool (just google it) which lets you flash on both lock and unlocked bootloaders. Once you flash KK, use one of the rooting programs (Turn on USB debugging, and connect it to your computer, run the application and go through the steps. Let me know if you need help on what method of root to use.)
Once rooted, you should have a recovery, which should let you flash a prerooted zip easily.
If you have an unlocked bootloader, just flash any custom kernel through fastboot, boot into its recovery By pressing vol up or down at boot logo) and flash the zip.
Final tip is, make sure you have the prerooted zip on your sd card before you flash a custom kernel, as not all can mount to the PC from the reovery and flashing an incompatible kernel (such as a 4.4.4 kernel on a 5.0 rom) won't let you boot into the ROM.
Feel free to ask if you have any doubts, come across any issues, or need any help at all.
SOURCE: I flashed a customized TW ftf on a Singapore bought C6902 which I'm using in India with no issues at all.
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Thanks for the in depth reply mate much appreciated. And thanks for the welcome, cheers
Ive got a locked bootloader so I'll check out that unnoficial flashtool, thanks.
Now here is where my confusion and lack of knowledge becomes another problem... You say that after rooting kitkat (using something like 'easy root tool'?) I "should have a recovery, which should let you flash a prerooted zip easily.".......
I was under the impression that after rooting kitkat I would have to install
'XZ Dual Recovery' to let me flash the pre-root zip.
Do I not have to install XZ dual recovery?
Thanks again for all your help... just trying to clear up the details before I start the whole process.
Cheers mate.
thesweeney80 said:
Thanks for the in depth reply mate much appreciated. And thanks for the welcome, cheers
Ive got a locked bootloader so I'll check out that unnoficial flashtool, thanks.
Now here is where my confusion and lack of knowledge becomes another problem... You say that after rooting kitkat (using something like 'easy root tool'?) I "should have a recovery, which should let you flash a prerooted zip easily.".......
I was under the impression that after rooting kitkat I would have to install
'XZ Dual Recovery' to let me flash the pre-root zip.
Do I not have to install XZ dual recovery?
Thanks again for all your help... just trying to clear up the details before I start the whole process.
Cheers mate.
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Some root kits will install a custom recovery for you, but it's so easy to just install XZDR, that's what I always do. XZDR will actually give you multiple recoveries to choose from (but TWRP is generally considered the best), but it also has some nice addition features like RIC killer (which allows you to have full root vs partial root).
I should also clarify my previous statement - XperiFirm is great for getting *new* firmware.. but you will either need to back up copies of old firmware for future use, or seek them out in threads if you need them later.
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Some root kits will install a custom recovery for you, but it's so easy to just install XZDR, that's what I always do. XZDR will actually give you multiple recoveries to choose from (but TWRP is generally considered the best), but it also has some nice addition features like RIC killer (which allows you to have full root vs partial root).
I should also clarify my previous statement - XperiFirm is great for getting *new* firmware.. but you will either need to back up copies of old firmware for future use, or seek them out in threads if you need them later.
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ahhh, now that makes sense (re: some root solutions including a recovery), thank you for clearing that up.
One final thing (before I dive in and at least get KK installed+rooted)...
If I have to start reading one more subject I think my head will explode lol so If you could just clear up one thing about RIC Killer....
I want full root, not partial - do I have to mess with RIC Killer or can I leave it alone?
On the guide I am trying to follow; someone said they ended up 'half rooted' - would that be because of RIC killer or user error when creating the pre-rooted zip?
just dont want to go through all this and end up only being half rooted haha, cheers.
edit: ok so after checking flashtool it seems I already have the right one (NOT SONY)... I have version 0.9.19.7 But there are two warnings (pasted below) on the flashtool thread.
Does the first warning simply mean 'Use the latest version'??
I have no clue about the second warning...do i just uncheck the uption regarding simlock.ta IF it is in the list of options when I flash kitkat? I have no clue if my ftf file includes simlock.ta.
Both warnings mention bricks and hard bricks so I'm taking them pretty seriously haha.
Any advice on these warnings would be great, thanks for your patience.
"WARNING : Since Xperia Z, sony added a new set of files I called bootbundle. Those files can be bundled from 0.9.13 and can be flashed from 0.9.13 only. To all those flashing devices from Z edition to all after Z, it is highly advised to use 0.9.13 and to be sure FTF you flash contain the bootbundle set. I've been reported of hard bricks because of missing such set of files from bundles.
I WANT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION ABOUT THE LATEST BRANCH 0.9.19. Without FSC, the tool will by default include simlock.ta if this file is present in the FTF. The result will be a bricked phone
As a workaround, until I release a patch, please please tick the exlude simlock.ta if you see it in the list.
0.9.19.6 fixes the simlock.ta issue. This file is by default excluded. Then it will not be flashed until you explicitely untick the exlcude simlock box. Do it at your own risk."
thesweeney80 said:
ahhh, now that makes sense (re: some root solutions including a recovery), thank you for clearing that up.
One final thing (before I dive in and at least get KK installed+rooted)...
If I have to start reading one more subject I think my head will explode lol so If you could just clear up one thing about RIC Killer....
I want full root, not partial - do I have to mess with RIC Killer or can I leave it alone?
On the guide I am trying to follow; someone said they ended up 'half rooted' - would that be because of RIC killer or user error when creating the pre-rooted zip?
just dont want to go through all this and end up only being half rooted haha, cheers.
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Even if you don't have a RIC killer installed, most root stuff will work fine. On the Z1, the RIC will prevent you from doing specific things, most importantly mounting /system as writable, which is necessary for certain type of advanced modifications.
However, if you install XZDR, you'll get the custom recovery + the RIC killer. I would just do that.
edit: ok so after checking flashtool it seems I already have the right one (NOT SONY)... I have version 0.9.19.7 But there are two warnings (pasted below) on the flashtool thread.
Does the first warning simply mean 'Use the latest version'??
I have no clue about the second warning...do i just uncheck the uption regarding simlock.ta IF it is in the list of options when I flash kitkat? I have no clue if my ftf file includes simlock.ta.
Both warnings mention bricks and hard bricks so I'm taking them pretty seriously haha.
Any advice on these warnings would be great, thanks for your patience.
"WARNING : Since Xperia Z, sony added a new set of files I called bootbundle. Those files can be bundled from 0.9.13 and can be flashed from 0.9.13 only. To all those flashing devices from Z edition to all after Z, it is highly advised to use 0.9.13 and to be sure FTF you flash contain the bootbundle set. I've been reported of hard bricks because of missing such set of files from bundles.
I WANT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION ABOUT THE LATEST BRANCH 0.9.19. Without FSC, the tool will by default include simlock.ta if this file is present in the FTF. The result will be a bricked phone
As a workaround, until I release a patch, please please tick the exlude simlock.ta if you see it in the list.
0.9.19.6 fixes the simlock.ta issue. This file is by default excluded. Then it will not be flashed until you explicitely untick the exlcude simlock box. Do it at your own risk."
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Correct, the warning is to just make sure you use a version later than 0.9.13; you're fine to use 0.9.19.7. It will tell you that .8 is out, but the change is not important to you. You don't need to do anything special regarding simlock.ta.
If you have an external SD card, copy everything you want to flash onto the phone before starting (5.1.1 prerooted, SuperSU, XZDR), so it's already there when you need it.
xasbo said:
Even if you don't have a RIC killer installed, most root stuff will work fine. On the Z1, the RIC will prevent you from doing specific things, most importantly mounting /system as writable, which is necessary for certain type of advanced modifications.
However, if you install XZDR, you'll get the custom recovery + the RIC killer. I would just do that.
Correct, the warning is to just make sure you use a version later than 0.9.13; you're fine to use 0.9.19.7. It will tell you that .8 is out, but the change is not important to you. You don't need to do anything special regarding simlock.ta.
If you have an external SD card, copy everything you want to flash onto the phone before starting (5.1.1 prerooted, SuperSU, XZDR), so it's already there when you need it.
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THANKS.
So As long as I install XZDR I will have RIC killer and that will ensure a full root? thats great, cheers..
Thanks for clearing up the flashtool warnings too, very much appreciated.
As for your final tip about the SD card... do you mean copy everything to the SD card? or the phone? I'm ASSuming you mean the SD card as the phone memory will get wiped during flasshing if I clear everything? no?
Sorry mate I'm having a total brain-fart after everything Ive read, my comprehension skills are at an all time low lol. Tired.
Thanks again for all ya help mate, I'm just about ready to get this crap done... and then once Ive finished I know I'll be thinking 'wtf was all the panicking about? lol.
THANKS.
thesweeney80 said:
THANKS.
So As long as I install XZDR I will have RIC killer and that will ensure a full root? thats great, cheers..
Thanks for clearing up the flashtool warnings too, very much appreciated.
As for your final tip about the SD card... do you mean copy everything to the SD card? or the phone? I'm ASSuming you mean the SD card as the phone memory will get wiped during flasshing if I clear everything? no?
Sorry mate I'm having a total brain-fart after everything Ive read, my comprehension skills are at an all time low lol. Tired.
Thanks again for all ya help mate, I'm just about ready to get this crap done... and then once Ive finished I know I'll be thinking 'wtf was all the panicking about? lol.
THANKS.
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Make sure you flash SuperSU and XZDR at the same time. If you do not, it will not work correctly (still only partial root). If you make your own pre-root ZIP, you can roll them into it and do it in one fell swoop.
Yeah. External SD card = not the phone. If you do a clean flash (which you should), you will be wiping the phone storage.
xasbo said:
Make sure you flash SuperSU and XZDR at the same time. If you do not, it will not work correctly (still only partial root). If you make your own pre-root ZIP, you can roll them into it and do it in one fell swoop.
Yeah. External SD card = not the phone. If you do a clean flash (which you should), you will be wiping the phone storage.
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You're the man, man...THANKS. :highfive:
I'll check the pre-root zip I found and if it doesnt have Supersu included I'll make my own and include XZDR too - I like the idea of having things 'slipstreamed' into one flash - thanks for the tip.
Thanks a lot for all your help in calming all my little worries about this process,,, very much appreciated.
I'll do the whole lot tomorrow and report back... thanks again.
Suggestion - since you are re-learning and your goal at the moment is to have a rooted 5.1.1, I suggest you download and install Flashtool for windows. Go to http://www.flashtool.net/index.php. Now in Flashtool, your need to install the appropriate drivers for your device/s. Instructions searching (I'm doing my lunch while typing reply - lol). Then use XperiFirm which is integrated in Flashtool. It has its own icon, just click it so you can download a 5.0.2 FTF for yor region. Install that 5.0.2 FTF on your phone using Flashtool (Flash it Baby! Flash it!) Then you can root 5.0.2 with ease using Kingroot. Replace Kingroot with SuperSU. Then install NUT's Dual recovery. Then you can download any of the pre-rooted 5.1.1 FTFs XDA peeps are putting up under the General section and boom. You are now on 5.1.1. with root.
Deathschythe33 said:
Suggestion - since you are re-learning and your goal at the moment is to have a rooted 5.1.1, I suggest you download and install Flashtool for windows. Go to http://www.flashtool.net/index.php. Now in Flashtool, your need to install the appropriate drivers for your device/s. Instructions searching (I'm doing my lunch while typing reply - lol). Then use XperiFirm which is integrated in Flashtool. It has its own icon, just click it so you can download a 5.0.2 FTF for yor region. Install that 5.0.2 FTF on your phone using Flashtool (Flash it Baby! Flash it!) Then you can root 5.0.2 with ease using Kingroot. Replace Kingroot with SuperSU. Then install NUT's Dual recovery. Then you can download any of the pre-rooted 5.1.1 FTFs XDA peeps are putting up under the General section and boom. You are now on 5.1.1. with root.
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cheers mate, I appreciate all the help I can get lol.
I decided to go with 5.0.2 instead of kitkat, but when I click on the .270 firmware links in xperifirm I get an error which says:
"Incomplete Firmware.
The following files are missing on the server:
fsp.zip.
Proceed with caution"
I clicked on the latest 5.1.1 firmwares and none of them give this error... so does the error simply mean that .270 is not the latest version? I couldnt find the answer in google. Are thes firmwares without fsp.zip safe to flash?
Thanks again.
edit: hmmm looks like i'll have to flash 4.4 instead.
When I try to download a .270 (5.0.2) firmware in xperifirm; it stops downloading after a few seconds and says a reuired file is missing
If I try to download one of the .368 firmwares it downloads ok
edit 2: F*ck my life... Not enough space on C: for unpacked ftf file (Small c partition on SSD) ... so unless there is a way for flashtool to flash from d:\...\firmware im screwed. I'll try compressing (NTFS) the c drive and hope thats enough
thesweeney80 said:
edit 2: F*ck my life... Not enough space on C: for unpacked ftf file (Small c partition on SSD) ... so unless there is a way for flashtool to flash from d:\...\firmware im screwed. I'll try compressing (NTFS) the c drive and hope thats enough
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There is a solution, but it's slightly complicated. Proceed at your own risk, maybe do a little research to make sure you understand what I'm tell you to do.
1) Browse to C:\Users\<username>\. if you aren't already, show hidden files and folders.
2) Grab the .flashTool directory and move it onto a drive with sufficient free space (e.g., D:\.flashTool).
3) Go to Start and type cmd into the search field. When cmd.exe shows up, right-click and select Run As Administrator.
4) Change to the user directory ("cd C:\Users\<username>").
5) Make a junction point named .flashTool pointed to where ever you moved the folder (e.g., "mklink /j .flashTool D:\.flashTool").
This will make flashtool think that its settings/data folder is in the right place, when really it's just a fake folder linked somewhere else.
xasbo said:
There is a solution, but it's slightly complicated. Proceed at your own risk, maybe do a little research to make sure you understand what I'm tell you to do.
1) Browse to C:\Users\<username>\. if you aren't already, show hidden files and folders.
2) Grab the .flashTool directory and move it onto a drive with sufficient free space (e.g., D:\.flashTool).
3) Go to Start and type cmd into the search field. When cmd.exe shows up, right-click and select Run As Administrator.
4) Change to the user directory ("cd C:\Users\<username>").
5) Make a junction point named .flashTool pointed to where ever you moved the folder (e.g., "mklink /j .flashTool D:\.flashTool").
This will make flashtool think that its settings/data folder is in the right place, when really it's just a fake folder linked somewhere else.
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Thanks again mate. Ive done that once before and forgotten all about it.
This time I just compressed c:\ with NTFS compression and it gained just enough space (F*ck you Winsxs).
But the above info will surely come in handy in future, so once again: Thanks! Tou've been a big help.
Just about to install XZDR and a pre-rooted 5.1.1 :fingers-crossed: Cheers mate :good:
thesweeney80 said:
Thanks again mate. Ive done that once before and forgotten all about it.
This time I just compressed c:\ with NTFS compression and it gained just enough space (F*ck you Winsxs).
But the above info will surely come in handy in future, so once again: Thanks! Tou've been a big help.
Just about to install XZDR and a pre-rooted 5.1.1 :fingers-crossed: Cheers mate :good:
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What a way you went through.
As you already were on 5.0.2 and rooted you just had to install xzdr to your phone.
After that you could flash one of the Pre-Rooted zip files you need.
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motorazrv3 said:
What a way you went through.
As you already were on 5.0.2 and rooted you just had to install xzdr to your phone.
After that you could flash one of the Pre-Rooted zip files you need.
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well I know that now dont I? :silly: haha
yeah I was on a kingrooted 5.02, and should have just installed XZDR etc but I upgraded to 5.1.1 ASSunming I could root it with kingroot again, big mistake.
If I had read about kingroot not working on 5.1.1 I could have saved 24hrs worth of headaches.
Oh well... all done now. Rooted on 5.1.1, busybox installed and all
Now begins the long process of re-installing and customizing all over again *yipee*
No doubt I will go through all this again in a few weeks when I decide to unlock the BL and install a customROM And kernel
THIS is why I spent a few years with a 'dumb' phone after my HD2... ohhh the joys of flashing.
BIG Thanks to evryone who helped me out on this especially Xasbo, Gamer4Life and Deathschythe33. CHEERS
:good: glad you got it sorted.
Please Xasbo help, I Have loop all the time
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:good: glad you got it sorted.
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Please, kan you help, I flashed downgrading my C6903 from .386 to C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Stripped, and got loops. Then I Tried again with several firmwares.108 and .386 and got the same result Loop :crying::crying:
I flashed with C6903_14.4.A.108 Generic SG and everything went fine, I got this massage:"NFC Firmware updating" "Don´t turn off you device", and got loop. Oh my god???? What Iam doing wrong?
Any suggestion. Thank you
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Please, kan you help, I flashed downgrading my C6903 from .386 to C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Stripped, and got loops. Then I Tried again with several firmwares.108 and .386 and got the same result Loop :crying::crying:
I flashed with C6903_14.4.A.108 Generic SG and everything went fine, I got this massage:"NFC Firmware updating" "Don´t turn off you device", and got loop. Oh my god???? What Iam doing wrong?
Any suggestion. Thank you
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Hmm. I've never seen that NFC message before. Did it look like that firmware update completed before the phone restarted?
Are you still able to flash anything to the phone? What are you trying to accomplish?