Hi all,
I have a c6903 Z1 currently on Kitkat 4.4.2 (after an OTA update I really wish I'd never done) and I want to root it so I can install the SD card permission fix - can't put up with not being able to write to external SD, it's infuriating. If I can fix that, I can probably put up with KitKat.
If I'm still not happy with that then I want to go back to 4.3
Having read a lot, and I mean pages, and pages, about it, and having to downgrade, I've picked up that I would have to use NUT's .534 ftf to avoid losing the IMEI, and then I was going to root with vRoot.
Does anyone know, does that install Superuser or will I need the Superuser zip too?
At that point I want to then install recovery, so I'm looking at NUT's Z1 Locked Dual Recovery.
I rekon that should all be fine.
To get it back on KitKat I should then put the 757 zip on my SD card and flash in recovery, reboot and flash the stripped ftf with Flashtool, along with the recovery again.
If I still don't like it, I could then just repeat the above, but with the .136 zip and stripped ftf.
Am I thinking right here?
The only thing that's a bit worrying is that, for example, the .136 update thread says to come from .290.
Is this so, do I have to install that first, or can I go straight from the newly rooted .534 directly?
Sorry if this has been answered before, but my eyes are killing me staring at this screen now.
The only other thing I'm thinking is to just not root, and simply flash a Jelly Bean full ftf.
I'd rather have root and recovery though.
Thanks,
Mick.
wow, you didn't read much
DO NOT USE VROOT, IT SEND YOUR IMEI TO AN IP ADDRESS IN CHINA.
To get root on 757, just follow the step sin my signature
No need to use any root methods or unlock the bootloader
3 steps, 5 minutes work max.... a bit longer if you have slow download speeds
gregbradley said:
wow, you didn't read much
DO NOT USE VROOT, IT SEND YOUR IMEI TO AN IP ADDRESS IN CHINA.
To get root on 757, just follow the step sin my signature
No need to use any root methods or unlock the bootloader
3 steps, 5 minutes work max.... a bit longer if you have slow download speeds
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Just wasn't looking in the right places, so it seems.There is an awful lot of info on here though, and one link leads to another, however very informative reading.
Thank you so much for your help, don't mean to be a pain, and I do appreciate it.
All you guys do an amazing job.
Will it make any difference if I use the Z1 locked recovery instead of the XZ one, or should I just use the XZ anyway? Does it matter?
MickieH said:
Just wasn't looking in the right places, so it seems.There is an awful lot of info on here though, and one link leads to another, however very informative reading.
Thank you so much for your help, don't mean to be a pain, and I do appreciate it.
All you guys do an amazing job.
Will it make any difference if I use the Z1 locked recovery instead of the XZ one, or should I just use the XZ anyway? Does it matter?
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download the file for the Z1 from [NUT]s page since that one is for this phone.
the XZ is for the xperia Z and that is a different phone. It is always advisable to download and flash things that are deigned/made for the phone you have, not another phone....
u don't need to install the 290 version first, get nut's 534 stock, then install dualrecovery and go straight with the 136 one.
Check nut's instructions or use this youtube video which is foolprove.
youtube.com/watch?v=1aq9YTlfCgc
help
I have an unrooted sony Xperia z1 (C6902), and I want to have the timeshift video and 4k video recording features on my phone, please help me out,
I don't want to loose my warranty,
Tried to install z2 super camera apps from various threads but didn't worked,
gregbradley said:
download the file for the Z1 from [NUT]s page since that one is for this phone.
the XZ is for the xperia Z and that is a different phone. It is always advisable to download and flash things that are deigned/made for the phone you have, not another phone....
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Thanks again, and sorry, it does complicate things as I have the Xperia Z and a Z1.
I'll go with the Z1 recovery then.
Your help is greatly appreciated, it really is.
Sometimes you just can't see the fire for the smoke, you know.
Thanks again,
Mick.
MickieH said:
Thanks again, and sorry, it does complicate things as I have the Xperia Z and a Z1.
I'll go with the Z1 recovery then.
Your help is greatly appreciated, it really is.
Sometimes you just can't see the fire for the smoke, you know.
Thanks again,
Mick.
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I am not sure if we got our wires crossed before.
the XZDR installer will install dual recovery on your phone from PC
the Z1 flashable file will upgrade to the latest version from recovery itself, but will only work on a Z1.
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I am not sure if we got our wires crossed before.
the XZDR installer will install dual recovery on your phone from PC
the Z1 flashable file will upgrade to the latest version from recovery itself, but will only work on a Z1.
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Oh, right, well, I've downloaded this installer -> Z1-lockeddualrecovery2.7.123-BETA from NUT's site.
I'll flash NUT's .534 ftf with flashtool first, then I'll run the installer from my lappy, and that should root and install the recovery.
I have also downloaded the Z1-lockeddualrecovery2.7.123-BETA.flashable - I assume that's what I need to flash after flashing another ROM if it doesn't include it's own recovery.
I have noticed some ROMS have earlier version recoveries, like .80, built in. Can I still flash the .123 on to of those with no issues? I have read there had been some issues with flashing over older recoveries.
Has anyone figured out why the IMEI was being lost? Was it due to the baseband
I've already got the drivers installed, in fact I successfully flashed back to .136 just to try it (last flashing I did was on my Arc S, so been a while) last night as I just couldn't be bothered with KitKat anymore.
Thanks again,
Mick.
MickieH said:
I have noticed some ROMS have earlier version recoveries, like .80, built in. Can I still flash the .123 on to of those with no issues? I have read there had been some issues with flashing over older recoveries.
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If the installation was successfully then it doesn't matter. The older one working well. In the case you want flash the newets one then you have to wipe your phone with a stock FTF.
MickieH said:
Has anyone figured out why the IMEI was being lost? Was it due to the baseband
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kind of, but don't worry, you will have your IMEI back after upgrade again.
I can open a topic for this question, but i'll just ask it here to prevent extra spam etc hehe.
If i get to a 757 rooted firmware using these methods, and i want to go to a non rooted firmware like 769 if it comes out. Will that be just a matter of reflasing the tft that belongs to that firmware using flashtool, or do i have to make more steps?
Thanks for answering!
saintgein said:
I can open a topic for this question, but i'll just ask it here to prevent extra spam etc hehe.
If i get to a 757 rooted firmware using these methods, and i want to go to a non rooted firmware like 769 if it comes out. Will that be just a matter of reflasing the tft that belongs to that firmware using flashtool, or do i have to make more steps?
Thanks for answering!
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When 769 will be out then NUT will have Pre-Rooted FTF like the 757, so you will have just to repeat the same steps. If you will want go to 769 Stock then 1 step will be required, flash it via Flashtool.
I want to remind you also that we do not predict future so we don't know what Google will do to they future Firmwares so the steps can be less or more, nobody know it.
Just one more thing, sorry to be a pain.
I'm happy with the process, flash NUT's. 534 ftf, then run the recovery installer to get root and recovery.
I don't want to install a custom rom right now.
I either want to end up on 4.3 with root and recovery, or 4.4.2, root, recovery, and the SD card fix.
If I use the zip and stripped ftf files from NUT's download page, I'll still retain root access, is that right?
Then just reflash the recovery zip before rebooting, and job done?
I've had no issues with the stock .136 firmware I've currently downgraded to other than the NFC icon not appearing when active. Something I've gathered can be fixed by editing the build.prop, but doesn't bother me anyway.
MickieH said:
If I use the zip and stripped ftf files from NUT's download page, I'll still retain root access, is that right?
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Yes, that's why is called Pre-rooted.
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Then just reflash the recovery zip before rebooting, and job done?
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No, the Recovery will still there from the first installation, it will not be wiped. After installing zip and strippied files, you will be able to boot into recovery.
eclyptos said:
Yes, that's why is called Pre-rooted.
No, the Recovery will still there from the first installation, it will not be wiped. After installing zip and strippied files, you will be able to boot into recovery.
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Ok, thank you for your help, I understand now, just needed to be clear before I went ahead.
Better to ask than mess it up.
To get root on 757, just follow the step sin my signature
Where to find steps??
I really am getting confused with a lot of different info, please help with simple instructions.
maid said:
Where to find steps??
I really am getting confused with a lot of different info, please help with simple instructions.
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Yes, I had the same problem, there's lots of info on here. There's hundreds of pages to read and it can get confusing.
I'll assume your phone hasn't been messed with. i.e. The bootloader is locked, and it's not rooted, and that you're using a Windows PC.
If you have changed your phone, let us know.
Make sure you have USB debugging turned on in your Developer Options, and Unknown sources in the Security settings.
To enable Developer Options in your settings, go to Settings, About phone, and keep taping Build number until it says 'You are now a Developer'
You'll need to download the latest version of Flashtool from here --> http://www.flashtool.net/download.php
You'll need to install the drivers for your phone too. The driver installer is in the flashtool/drivers folder.
Ok, so this is what I've gathered so far :
This is the link to the steps, thanks to gregbradley --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52407809&postcount=2
If you follow those, you'll end up with a rooted phone with whatever stock based rom you fancy.
Now the following are my thoughts, and what I've learned so far, but I'm not an expert.
My advice would be read more, and make sure you feel comfortable with what you are going to do, before you do it.
If you are unsure about anything, ask.
You'll need to use Flashtool to flash your phone.
The second post here,from DoomLord, shows how to connect your phone in flash mode --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565 - Basically turn the phone off, then press volume down and connect to the PC via USB when Flashtool tells you to.
I downloaded the .534 ftf from NUT's download page which is here --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/
I downloaded this file --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMS5HLjEuNTM0X1tOVVRdLmZ0Zi50b3JyZW50
You have to download that with your torrent program.
If you don't know how to do that, I've uploaded the ftf to my cloud storage.
You can direct download the .534 ftf here --> https://mega.co.nz/#!mgwkAagR!6_iTB3LwVkGz6yvSaKQsEVPtyaIPq3BJGFCk1EDw9XQ
Place the .534 ftf in the c:/flashtool/firmwares folder
Make sure your phone is fully charged, and back up anything you want keeping, as flashing will wipe your phone.
Now run Flashtool, click the Flash icon (top left) and select the .534 ftf.Flashing the .534 ftf that NUT provided will prevent loss of IMEI.
Don't mess with any settings, and click Flash, and follow the instructions on screen.
That will return your phone to stock 14.1.G.1.534
Download the Z1 Locked Dual Recovery Installer from NUT's page --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=WjEtbG9ja2VkZHVhbHJlY292ZXJ5Mi43LjEyMy1CRVRBLmZsYXNoYWJsZS56aXA=
Connect your phone to your PC and run the install.
That will root your phone, and install recovery.
From there you can then install whatever stock based ROM you want.
If you want your phone on KitKat 4.4.2, rooted, with recovery, then download the .757 files from NUT's download page.
You'd need the flashable zip --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMy5BLjAuNzU3LmZsYXNoYWJsZS56aXAudG9ycmVudA==
Download is via torrent.
Flash that zip from recovery.
The stripped part --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMy5BLjAuNzU3X1N0cmlwcGVkLmZ0Zg==
Flash that from Flashtool
That should be it.
Unless your bootloader is unlocked, do not try to flash anything other than stock based roms as it won't work, and will brick your phone.
Hope that helps :good:
MickieH said:
Yes, I had the same problem, there's lots of info on here. There's hundreds of pages to read and it can get confusing.
I'll assume your phone hasn't been messed with. i.e. The bootloader is locked, and it's not rooted, and that you're using a Windows PC.
If you have changed your phone, let us know.
Make sure you have USB debugging turned on in your Developer Options, and Unknown sources in the Security settings.
To enable Developer Options in your settings, go to Settings, About phone, and keep taping Build number until it says 'You are now a Developer'
You'll need to download the latest version of Flashtool from here --> http://www.flashtool.net/download.php
You'll need to install the drivers for your phone too. The driver installer is in the flashtool/drivers folder.
Ok, so this is what I've gathered so far :
This is the link to the steps, thanks to gregbradley --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52407809&postcount=2
If you follow those, you'll end up with a rooted phone with whatever stock based rom you fancy.
Now the following are my thoughts, and what I've learned so far, but I'm not an expert.
My advice would be read more, and make sure you feel comfortable with what you are going to do, before you do it.
If you are unsure about anything, ask.
You'll need to use Flashtool to flash your phone.
The second post here,from DoomLord, shows how to connect your phone in flash mode --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440565 - Basically turn the phone off, then press volume down and connect to the PC via USB when Flashtool tells you to.
I downloaded the .534 ftf from NUT's download page which is here --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/
I downloaded this file --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMS5HLjEuNTM0X1tOVVRdLmZ0Zi50b3JyZW50
You have to download that with your torrent program.
If you don't know how to do that, I've uploaded the ftf to my cloud storage.
You can direct download the .534 ftf here --> https://mega.co.nz/#!mgwkAagR!6_iTB3LwVkGz6yvSaKQsEVPtyaIPq3BJGFCk1EDw9XQ
Place the .534 ftf in the c:/flashtool/firmwares folder
Make sure your phone is fully charged, and back up anything you want keeping, as flashing will wipe your phone.
Now run Flashtool, click the Flash icon (top left) and select the .534 ftf.Flashing the .534 ftf that NUT provided will prevent loss of IMEI.
Don't mess with any settings, and click Flash, and follow the instructions on screen.
That will return your phone to stock 14.1.G.1.534
Download the Z1 Locked Dual Recovery Installer from NUT's page --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=WjEtbG9ja2VkZHVhbHJlY292ZXJ5Mi43LjEyMy1CRVRBLmZsYXNoYWJsZS56aXA=
Connect your phone to your PC and run the install.
That will root your phone, and install recovery.
From there you can then install whatever stock based ROM you want.
If you want your phone on KitKat 4.4.2, rooted, with recovery, then download the .757 files from NUT's download page.
You'd need the flashable zip --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMy5BLjAuNzU3LmZsYXNoYWJsZS56aXAudG9ycmVudA==
Download is via torrent.
Flash that zip from recovery.
The stripped part --> http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=QzY5MDNfMTQuMy5BLjAuNzU3X1N0cmlwcGVkLmZ0Zg==
Flash that from Flashtool
That should be it.
Unless your bootloader is unlocked, do not try to flash anything other than stock based roms as it won't work, and will brick your phone.
Hope that helps :good:
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Bootloader is unlocked I have flashed firmware before but not rooted.
My main reason for wanting to root was to get rid of apps I dont want like the google ones.
Do you already have a recovery installed?
If not, installing the Z1 locked dual recovery will also root your phone. Just make sure USB debugging is turned on, plug your phone in normally, and click install.
As per my post above, I've just flashed NUT's .534 ftf, booted up, then ran the recovery installer, and it's working well.
I can boot into recovery, and have already done a nandroid backup. Best to do that before anything else.
All I have to do now is choose a rom and flash it.
In all honesty, if your bootloader is unlocked, I'd probably flash a custom kernel which has recovery and root already. I don't know much about flashing with unlocked bootloaders as I don't intend to unlock mine just yet.
Did you backup your TA partition before unlocking?
MickieH said:
Do you already have a recovery installed? No
If not, installing the Z1 locked dual recovery will also root your phone. Just make sure USB debugging is turned on, plug your phone in normally, and click install.
As per my post above, I've just flashed NUT's .534 ftf, booted up, then ran the recovery installer, and it's working well.
I can boot into recovery, and have already done a nandroid backup. Best to do that before anything else.
All I have to do now is choose a rom and flash it.
In all honesty, if your bootloader is unlocked, I'd probably flash a custom kernel which has recovery and root already. I don't know much about flashing with unlocked bootloaders as I don't intend to unlock mine just yet.
Did you backup your TA partition before unlocking?
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No
If I flash a custom kernel do I just use flashtool?
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Hi Sirs/Masters,
I would like ask for your help. I wasn't able to root my z1. I recently updated it to 14.2.A.136 via Sony pc companion. After a couple of weeks I tried to root my phone but an error always appears. Please help me. I need to root my phone because it heats up whenever I use it.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
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Hi Sirs/Masters,
I would like ask for your help. I wasn't able to root my z1. I recently updated it to 14.2.A.136 via Sony pc companion. After a couple of weeks I tried to root my phone but an error always appears. Please help me. I need to root my phone because it heats up whenever I use it.
THANKS IN ADVANCE.
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There is no direct method to root the phone. You need to downgrade first. Use this guide to get root on .290 first:
and then go on this thread to get on a rooted .136:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2628185
Please the step by step to root .136 in LB
shem2409 said:
There is no direct method to root the phone. You need to downgrade first. Use this guide to get root on .290 first:
and then go on this thread to get on a rooted .136:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2628185
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Hello, can some one explain me (in short words) the step by step to get full root in LB .136 since I follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2628185 and for some hours a get full root but need to do some steps to restore some apps, integrate some in System and in these steps need to clean dalvik cache in cwmr and for some reason the full root gone out. In the tread is some confuse because most people have UB and are different steps (sorry I´m novice an can´t post in dev treads)
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Hello, can some one explain me (in short words) the step by step to get full root in LB .136 since I follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2628185 and for some hours a get full root but need to do some steps to restore some apps, integrate some in System and in these steps need to clean dalvik cache in cwmr and for some reason the full root gone out. In the tread is some confuse because most people have UB and are different steps (sorry I´m novice an can´t post in dev treads)
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Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2628185
..bit if you are not on .290 Rooted you have to start from HERE
@jael65, I think this Guide Step by Step can help you to understand more how to root your phone, there is no other guide like that, Page 2, Post #16 HERE
just unlock
jael65 said:
Hello, can some one explain me (in short words) the step by step to get full root in LB .136 since I follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2628185 and for some hours a get full root but need to do some steps to restore some apps, integrate some in System and in these steps need to clean dalvik cache in cwmr and for some reason the full root gone out. In the tread is some confuse because most people have UB and are different steps (sorry I´m novice an can´t post in dev treads)
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Just unlock the freakin bootloader already like i did last night. and use flashtool 9.11 instead of 9.13 for some reason it keeps installing the wrong driver for the phone which results in a header error.
redkelah said:
Just unlock the freakin bootloader already like i did last night. and use flashtool 9.11 instead of 9.13 for some reason it keeps installing the wrong driver for the phone which results in a header error.
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I don't know if you know that the v.9.11 is not recommended with Z1 and you risk to brick your phone. Unlocking Bootloader is needed for Custom Kernel only and if you do that you will lose Warranty and some features. Just follow the Video and you will be fine. BTW, windows installed the drivers for me and all was fine.
Get the root
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I don't know if you know that the v.9.11 is not recommended with Z1 and you risk to brick your phone. Unlocking Bootloader is needed for Custom Kernel only and if you do that you will lose Warranty and some features. Just follow the Video and you will be fine. BTW, windows installed the drivers for me and all was fine.
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The finally way to get full Root was:
Downgrade to .134 (NUT's provide) Root and Install the last XZDual Recovery (NUT provide)
In TWRP Flash iHakers 2.1 (minimal) Before boot to system, Flash Lastest XZDual Recovery (NUT provide) and flash lastest Supersu Zip Flashable (Chainfire provide)
Boot to system and restore all my apps with TB open each and every one app that needs root to get it (root)
Go back to TWRP and Now Flash .136 (NUT provide) With only wipe cache and dalvik cache (this is important because is the only way that a could gets the root in .136) Flash again last Supersu.zip flashable.
Turn off my phone And flash the properly stripped.ftf provided by NUT, turn on my phone and get full root.
(in other ways only gets partialy root)
In the NUT thread some people have same problem like mine (Even NUT comment it)
Sorry my english, to bad
Thanks all for your help.
i con upgrade to .136 without loosing my configuration and apps?
i need help i wanto to know how to upgrade mi firmware without loosing my saved apps i just download music from google play and i dont know if they will be erased... i need help!
ibandasanchez said:
i need help i wanto to know how to upgrade mi firmware without loosing my saved apps i just download music from google play and i dont know if they will be erased... i need help!
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In Flashtool uncheck "Wipe Data". In PC Companion use Backup & Restore, Update and if you lost something Restore with PC Companion.
Guys i got the phone recently, i unlocked my bootloader yesterday and i am on 136 now... I dont want to bother with downgrading and so on but i don't have root nor recovery... can't i just flash something rooted with flashtool so that afterwards i'll be able to just flash through recovery on the phone?
I moved from an Xperia S and none of these issues existed there...
Thank you in advance.
Oh nevermind gentlemen, thanks for the help
I Solved the issue by simply installing Ihackers advanced kernel.img trough Flashtool with the fastboot method... Pretty simple it got me an instant recovery and trough it i rooted and then installed SuperSU from the playstore... I finally understood the general concept...
P.S. I am with an unlocked bootloader so thats why i managed to install the kernel...
Hi experts,
before i try the new 4.3 rom i would like to know if it is possible to revert back to 4.1.2 later on.
Thanks
Attila
Of course. Flashtool + appropriate FTF file which you can find anywhere in this subforum and you can easily revert back to 4.1.2
Thx
Thank you,
then i give it a try.
Cheers.
no need to flash kernel or basebands? i want to go back ics 4.0.4 .212 russian tft is the best for battery
redneck82 said:
no need to flash kernel or basebands? i want to go back ics 4.0.4 .212 russian tft is the best for battery
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if u using ftf file it should come integrated with the baseband and kernel unless u untick it while u in falshtools
how to dowgrade from jellybean 4.3 to 4.1.2
how to downgrade from jellybean 4.3 to 4.1.2 on xperia V?
if i try to use FTF of 4.1.2 it goes in boot-loop
4.3 working but having lots of bugs
please suggest urgent
romcio47 said:
Of course. Flashtool + appropriate FTF file which you can find anywhere in this subforum and you can easily revert back to 4.1.2
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Which needs unlocked bootloader, correct?
Which additional drivers need to be installed?
Is there a way to downgrade with locked bootloader? I am actually ok with the function of .199 but not with it's tons of bloat, and no way to install certain apps. No root is almost like having no sex ever.
peter-k said:
Which needs unlocked bootloader, correct?
Which additional drivers need to be installed?
Is there a way to downgrade with locked bootloader? I am actually ok with the function of .199 but not with it's tons of bloat, and no way to install certain apps. No root is almost like having no sex ever.
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Of course yes, flashtool is both for locked and unlocked bootloaders! The drivers I always install is something called "Gordon Gate driver", the FlashTool itself and this is enough for the phone to be recognized while plugging. Be sure to plug in the phone one time in flash mode before the final flashing so that the PC recognizes it and installs drivers, after that unplug it for a while and turn it off again because it will probably turn on, it always happens in my case when I plug the phone for the first time after f.e. installing a brand new OS and not every drivers are installed. Then run FlashTool and you can start the magic!
But, you can always disable certain apps in Settings>Apps>All. You will be actually freezing them (just like with titanium backup) but it's pretty useful. Aaaaand there are two ways of flashing recovery on locked bootloaders so that you can i.e. flash SuperSU .zip file with the app and appropriate binaries (you can find it on its dedicated thread here on XDA), that's what I'm always doing.
My phone is T. Xperia T.
romcio47 said:
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Of course yes, flashtool is both for locked and unlocked bootloaders! Also, you can always disable certain apps in Settings>Apps>All. You will be actually freezing them (just like with titanium backup) but it's pretty useful. Aaaaand there are two ways of flashing recovery on locked bootloaders so that you can i.e. flash SuperSU .zip file with the app and appropriate binaries, that's what I'm always doing
My phone is T. Xperia T.
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I am on Windows 8.1, can not install ADB / fastboot drivers. Can you comment on that, too? I did install the Microsoft patch.
peter-k said:
I am on Windows 8.1, can not install ADB / fastboot drivers. Can you comment on that, too? I did install the Microsoft patch.
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For now I'm afraid I can't... I still use Win7...
My phone is T. Xperia T.
romcio47 said:
For now I'm afraid I can't... I still use Win7...
My phone is T. Xperia T.
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Ok, I have still a notebook somewhere in the corner running XP. I'll see what this one can do. If I can downgrade to 4.12, then I can rrooooot that one. At least I would not feel so naked and vulnerable anymore.
Can Flashtool make a mirror or image of the current ROM?
And thanks bunches for your helpful answer!
Here are the rough steps to downgrade:
- use a PC which runs Windump XP or 7
- install Flashtool
- install drivers (in the Flashtool drivers folder)
- download a 4.12 FTF of your choice. Nordic and Singapore seem pretty good.
- switch phone to USB debugging
- open Flashtool, click on the flash symbol and chose flashmode, follow the instructions, don't disable any of the flashing options
- after successful installation root with DooMLoRD_Easy-Rooting-Toolkit_v17_perf-event-exploit
- after successful rooting update SuperSu
- install recovery CWM4XperiaT_v8i_JB
From here you can install a rooted 4.3 if you can live with it's shortcomings, or any 4.2. I choose Pure-X-Blaster 4.2.2.
If I am not the most ignorant XDAdevelopers member I am certainly in the top 10. That said here is my dilemma.
Equipment:
* Phone: Sony Xperia Z1
* Model: C6906
* Android Version: 4.3
* Build: 14.2.A.0.209
Goals:
* I would like root access (SuperSU).
* I don't want ClockWork Mod Manager (permanently, if I need to use it at some point).
* I DON'T want a custom ROM (I want to keep the stock firmware).
* Xposed Framework provide all the functionality I need.
* IF boot loader unlocking is necessary I would like to be able to relock the boot loader.
From my readings KINGO would appear to be amongst the simplest root tools, but from the KINGO site it does not appear to support the Z1. On the other hand, I have read posts where users say they have used KINGO on this phone.
Is a full nandroid backup possible/necessary given the above prior to making changes?
As I already feel like the South end of a horse facing North, please be gentle with any comments.
Thanks in advance.
hip
You want a full nandroid backup but no recovery? I suggest you install a recovery and leave it there. It wont make any difference to you
First, if all you want is root them do this
1) Downgrade to 4.2 FW ending in .534
2) Install dual recovery from the cross development thread
3) Flash SuperSU.zip from chainfire
4) Upgrade to your chosen ROM, there are several stock based ones in the development section.
No need to unlock your bootloader, you will be rooted and your choice of ROM with the ability to use xposed
gregbradley said:
You want a full nandroid backup but no recovery? I suggest you install a recovery and leave it there. It wont make any difference to you
First, if all you want is root them do this
1) Downgrade to 4.2 FW ending in .534
2) Install dual recovery from the cross development thread
3) Flash SuperSU.zip from chainfire
4) Upgrade to your chosen ROM, there are several stock based ones in the development section.
No need to unlock your bootloader, you will be rooted and your choice of ROM with the ability to use xposed
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gregbradley is right as always
OR
You should try this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687443 that's a based Stock ROM 4.4.2 and rooted, just tell me if you have any troubles i'll help you step by step.
QualQuek said:
gregbradley is right as always
OR
You should try this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687443 that's a based Stock ROM 4.4.2 and rooted, just tell me if you have any troubles i'll help you step by step.
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C6906 model does not appear to be supported.
Thanks
fiiish
fiiish said:
C6906 model does not appear to be supported.
Thanks
fiiish
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Look carefully my friend and the truth will appear to you clearly... It is supported as you seed at this line :
How to update to 14.3.A.0.681:
Files:
For C6906: Download C6906_14.3.A.0.681.flashable.zip (Bittorrent: 956MB) and C6906_14.3.A.0.681_Stripped.ftf (21MB)
You don't heave to Unlock Bootloader to get Root. I don't know what is ClockWork Mod Manager? For sure you will need a recovery, permanently like TWRP or Philz to make Update with Pre-Rooted Androids.
Download the FTF .534 Rogers for your model form FTF Collection in general Section, flash it with Flashtool v0.9.15, when you are on 4.2.2 FW .534 Root it with Bin4ry Method (from PC, there is not simplest way), Install SuperSU from Play Store or Flash the .zip file (you will find the link on How Root 4.3 or 4.4), then Instal XZDualRecovery (from PC, there is not simplest way), now you are ready to update to your favorite Android 4.3 or 4.4 and follow the instructions of "Hot to" in the specific thread.
eclyptos said:
I don't know what is ClockWork Mod Manager? For sure you will need a recovery, permanently like TWRP or Philz to make Update with Pre-Rooted Androids.
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CMW recovery-Clock Work Mod recovery
Its the one Philz is based on...
You do not need it permanently, you can delete it and reinstall it when you want it, but I don't see the point in that, just leave it there to be used as when is needed.
BTW, I am not soo fast in typing so I am the last one!!
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gregbradley said:
CMW recovery-Clock Work Mod recovery
Its the one Philz is based on..
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Right, it was looking similar.
gregbradley said:
You do not need it permanently, you can delete it and reinstall it when you want it, but I don't see the point in that, just leave it there to be used as when is needed.
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Of curse. Nothing to say about that. :good:
I was hoping to avoid what appears to me major modifications like flashing firmware (next phone is a nexus).
Another question, if I root only will a factory restore remove root?
Thanks to all the help. Off to work now, looking forward to reading more comments if any more are offered.
fiiish
yes, flashing stock FTF will revert your phone back to a factory state
This process of rooting will take about 10 minutes once you have everything downloaded, its not difficult.
QualQuek said:
gregbradley is right as always
OR
You should try this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2687443 that's a based Stock ROM 4.4.2 and rooted, just tell me if you have any troubles i'll help you step by step.
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QualQuek;
I am lost. There does not appear to be a single set of directions that I can follow. Go to this site to get this, except that, then go here or there. I just can't get my head around what I can now see are only a few steps.
I have downloaded:
- C69XX_14.3.A.0.681.patch.zip
- C6906_14.3.A.0.681.flashable.zip
- flashtool-0.9.15.0-windows.exe
If the offer still holds for help with step-by-step I will gratefully accept your help!!!
Thanks and regards.
fiiish
fiiish said:
QualQuek;
I am lost. There does not appear to be a single set of directions that I can follow. Go to this site to get this, except that, then go here or there. I just can't get my head around what I can now see are only a few steps.
I have downloaded:
- C69XX_14.3.A.0.681.patch.zip
- C6906_14.3.A.0.681.flashable.zip
- flashtool-0.9.15.0-windows.exe
If the offer still holds for help with step-by-step I will gratefully accept your help!!!
Thanks and regards.
fiiish
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Step-by-Step Post #2 Here. Maybe it help you a bit.
eclyptos said:
Step-by-Step Post #2 Here. Maybe it help you a bit.
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Haha, thats mine that I was about to post it here
fiiish said:
QualQuek;
I am lost. There does not appear to be a single set of directions that I can follow. Go to this site to get this, except that, then go here or there. I just can't get my head around what I can now see are only a few steps.
I have downloaded:
- C69XX_14.3.A.0.681.patch.zip
- C6906_14.3.A.0.681.flashable.zip
- flashtool-0.9.15.0-windows.exe
If the offer still holds for help with step-by-step I will gratefully accept your help!!!
Thanks and regards.
fiiish
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First you need the requirement
Download the 534 firmware of your country here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469191
Install XZDualRecovery here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261606
Now you can follow the instructions of NUT :
Put 'C69XX_14.3.A.0.681.flashable.zip' on (the external) SDcard1;
Put 'C69XX_14.3.A.0.681_Stripped.ftf' inside the Flashtool/firmwares folder;
Start your phone in recovery mode (boot the phone and after the 2 vibrations push vol down)
Create a backup of your phone in TWRP and don't forget to backup the contents of 'SDCard' (the internal storage!);
Flash 'C69XX_14.3.A.0.681.flashable.zip' in TWRP (select install and select your file)
NOTE: do not reboot but go back to the main menu, then go to reboot->power off;
Flash everything in 'C69XX_14.3.A.0.681_Stripped.ftf' using flashtool;
Reboot to system.
Hi all,
I havnt flashed a device since the first android ROMS for the HTC HD2, so that gives you an idea of how rusty I am, so please bare with me. I've been reading and searching for hours and my eyes feel like they are bleeding so I'm typing this plea for help whle I atill have some vision.
I ve got a c6903 z1 running the latest 5.1.1 update. stock kernel etc, locked bootloader.
I was on 5.02 rooted and now want to root 5.1.1
After lots of reading I realise that I need to downgrade to 4.4.4 kitkat, then root then install dual recovery, then installl a pre rooted 5.1.1... FIRSTLY - Does this sound right? are these the right steps to root 5.1.1?
Secondly, It took me a while finding Generic .108 ftf files but now I've found a few (through the ftf 'mega thread') and dont know which one I need... the options are:
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_1276-7939_R3C Generic MY.ftf 1060174KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Customized KR.ftf 948416KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Customized UK.ftf 1034553KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic-MEA_1277-2880_R5C.ftf 1010011KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic FR 1276-5833_R5C.ftf 1019704KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic IT 1276-0557.ftf 1050780KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic RU 1276-7743.ftf 973615KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic_SG_1276-7937_R3C.ftf 1048335KB
Will any of these work considering I'm not staying on 4.4.4?
I assumed I could safely use the 'UK' file from the above list but then got paranoid I might brick my z1 by flashing a Ukranian ROM lol.
I've now got 'the fear' and am afraid I might **** this whole process up and brick my device.
which reminds me, one last thing... Ive downloaded the official SONY Flashtool (ver. 0.9.19.8).. is this the right tool for the job? I seem to remember reading that the official flashtool only works on unlocked bootloaders, but I've read so much im confused as hell at this point.
Sorry for the long post,
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Correct. There is no direct root for 5.1.1 currently. You could also downgrade to 5.0.2 instead, it doesn't really make a difference between that and 4.4.
It doesn't really matter what your interim ROM is as long as you do a clean flash when updating to 5.1.1 again.
Flashtool is the correct tool to be using. It has a utility called XperiFirm built it. You can use that to get any FTF that's publically available so that you don't have to depend on FTF threads.
The only way to have rooted 5.1.1 is with a pre-rooted zip, so you'll have to use PRFCreator to create that zip if there isn't one already posted for the specific variant you want to use.
thesweeney80 said:
Hi all,
I havnt flashed a device since the first android ROMS for the HTC HD2, so that gives you an idea of how rusty I am, so please bare with me. I've been reading and searching for hours and my eyes feel like they are bleeding so I'm typing this plea for help whle I atill have some vision.
I ve got a c6903 z1 running the latest 5.1.1 update. stock kernel etc, locked bootloader.
I was on 5.02 rooted and now want to root 5.1.1
After lots of reading I realise that I need to downgrade to 4.4.4 kitkat, then root then install dual recovery, then installl a pre rooted 5.1.1... FIRSTLY - Does this sound right? are these the right steps to root 5.1.1?
Secondly, It took me a while finding Generic .108 ftf files but now I've found a few (through the ftf 'mega thread') and dont know which one I need... the options are:
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_1276-7939_R3C Generic MY.ftf 1060174KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Customized KR.ftf 948416KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Customized UK.ftf 1034553KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic-MEA_1277-2880_R5C.ftf 1010011KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic FR 1276-5833_R5C.ftf 1019704KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic IT 1276-0557.ftf 1050780KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic RU 1276-7743.ftf 973615KB
C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Generic_SG_1276-7937_R3C.ftf 1048335KB
Will any of these work considering I'm not staying on 4.4.4?
I assumed I could safely use the 'UK' file from the above list but then got paranoid I might brick my z1 by flashing a Ukranian ROM lol.
I've now got 'the fear' and am afraid I might **** this whole process up and brick my device.
which reminds me, one last thing... Ive downloaded the official SONY Flashtool (ver. 0.9.19.8).. is this the right tool for the job? I seem to remember reading that the official flashtool only works on unlocked bootloaders, but I've read so much im confused as hell at this point.
Sorry for the long post,
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hey there! Welcome to the Z1 community
All you have to do is make sure you flash the ftf specific to your device. As long as it says C6903 in the ftf, you're good to go. all these locations are just country specific customizations with some apps and stuff. I'd say you can just flash the SG ftf for a mostly bloat free system.
In addition, you can't use the SONY flashtool (EMMA) unless you have an unlocked bootloader. I'd recommend you use flashtool (just google it) which lets you flash on both lock and unlocked bootloaders. Once you flash KK, use one of the rooting programs (Turn on USB debugging, and connect it to your computer, run the application and go through the steps. Let me know if you need help on what method of root to use.)
Once rooted, you should have a recovery, which should let you flash a prerooted zip easily.
If you have an unlocked bootloader, just flash any custom kernel through fastboot, boot into its recovery By pressing vol up or down at boot logo) and flash the zip.
Final tip is, make sure you have the prerooted zip on your sd card before you flash a custom kernel, as not all can mount to the PC from the reovery and flashing an incompatible kernel (such as a 4.4.4 kernel on a 5.0 rom) won't let you boot into the ROM.
Feel free to ask if you have any doubts, come across any issues, or need any help at all.
SOURCE: I flashed a customized TW ftf on a Singapore bought C6902 which I'm using in India with no issues at all.
xasbo said:
Correct. There is no direct root for 5.1.1 currently. You could also downgrade to 5.0.2 instead, it doesn't really make a difference between that and 4.4.
It doesn't really matter what your interim ROM is as long as you do a clean flash when updating to 5.1.1 again.
Flashtool is the correct tool to be using. It has a utility called XperiFirm built it. You can use that to get any FTF that's publically available so that you don't have to depend on FTF threads.
The only way to have rooted 5.1.1 is with a pre-rooted zip, so you'll have to use PRFCreator to create that zip if there isn't one already posted for the specific variant you want to use.
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Thanks for the quick reply mate. Sounds good, I might just go to 5.02 then as rooting that was fairly painless.
Ive already found a pre-rooted zip for stock 5.1.1 so I think I'm good to go on that one. Almost ready to dive in... thanks for clearing that up.
AnrgKrshn said:
Hey there! Welcome to the Z1 community
All you have to do is make sure you flash the ftf specific to your device. As long as it says C6903 in the ftf, you're good to go. all these locations are just country specific customizations with some apps and stuff. I'd say you can just flash the SG ftf for a mostly bloat free system.
In addition, you can't use the SONY flashtool (EMMA) unless you have an unlocked bootloader. I'd recommend you use flashtool (just google it) which lets you flash on both lock and unlocked bootloaders. Once you flash KK, use one of the rooting programs (Turn on USB debugging, and connect it to your computer, run the application and go through the steps. Let me know if you need help on what method of root to use.)
Once rooted, you should have a recovery, which should let you flash a prerooted zip easily.
If you have an unlocked bootloader, just flash any custom kernel through fastboot, boot into its recovery By pressing vol up or down at boot logo) and flash the zip.
Final tip is, make sure you have the prerooted zip on your sd card before you flash a custom kernel, as not all can mount to the PC from the reovery and flashing an incompatible kernel (such as a 4.4.4 kernel on a 5.0 rom) won't let you boot into the ROM.
Feel free to ask if you have any doubts, come across any issues, or need any help at all.
SOURCE: I flashed a customized TW ftf on a Singapore bought C6902 which I'm using in India with no issues at all.
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Thanks for the in depth reply mate much appreciated. And thanks for the welcome, cheers
Ive got a locked bootloader so I'll check out that unnoficial flashtool, thanks.
Now here is where my confusion and lack of knowledge becomes another problem... You say that after rooting kitkat (using something like 'easy root tool'?) I "should have a recovery, which should let you flash a prerooted zip easily.".......
I was under the impression that after rooting kitkat I would have to install
'XZ Dual Recovery' to let me flash the pre-root zip.
Do I not have to install XZ dual recovery?
Thanks again for all your help... just trying to clear up the details before I start the whole process.
Cheers mate.
thesweeney80 said:
Thanks for the in depth reply mate much appreciated. And thanks for the welcome, cheers
Ive got a locked bootloader so I'll check out that unnoficial flashtool, thanks.
Now here is where my confusion and lack of knowledge becomes another problem... You say that after rooting kitkat (using something like 'easy root tool'?) I "should have a recovery, which should let you flash a prerooted zip easily.".......
I was under the impression that after rooting kitkat I would have to install
'XZ Dual Recovery' to let me flash the pre-root zip.
Do I not have to install XZ dual recovery?
Thanks again for all your help... just trying to clear up the details before I start the whole process.
Cheers mate.
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Some root kits will install a custom recovery for you, but it's so easy to just install XZDR, that's what I always do. XZDR will actually give you multiple recoveries to choose from (but TWRP is generally considered the best), but it also has some nice addition features like RIC killer (which allows you to have full root vs partial root).
I should also clarify my previous statement - XperiFirm is great for getting *new* firmware.. but you will either need to back up copies of old firmware for future use, or seek them out in threads if you need them later.
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Some root kits will install a custom recovery for you, but it's so easy to just install XZDR, that's what I always do. XZDR will actually give you multiple recoveries to choose from (but TWRP is generally considered the best), but it also has some nice addition features like RIC killer (which allows you to have full root vs partial root).
I should also clarify my previous statement - XperiFirm is great for getting *new* firmware.. but you will either need to back up copies of old firmware for future use, or seek them out in threads if you need them later.
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ahhh, now that makes sense (re: some root solutions including a recovery), thank you for clearing that up.
One final thing (before I dive in and at least get KK installed+rooted)...
If I have to start reading one more subject I think my head will explode lol so If you could just clear up one thing about RIC Killer....
I want full root, not partial - do I have to mess with RIC Killer or can I leave it alone?
On the guide I am trying to follow; someone said they ended up 'half rooted' - would that be because of RIC killer or user error when creating the pre-rooted zip?
just dont want to go through all this and end up only being half rooted haha, cheers.
edit: ok so after checking flashtool it seems I already have the right one (NOT SONY)... I have version 0.9.19.7 But there are two warnings (pasted below) on the flashtool thread.
Does the first warning simply mean 'Use the latest version'??
I have no clue about the second warning...do i just uncheck the uption regarding simlock.ta IF it is in the list of options when I flash kitkat? I have no clue if my ftf file includes simlock.ta.
Both warnings mention bricks and hard bricks so I'm taking them pretty seriously haha.
Any advice on these warnings would be great, thanks for your patience.
"WARNING : Since Xperia Z, sony added a new set of files I called bootbundle. Those files can be bundled from 0.9.13 and can be flashed from 0.9.13 only. To all those flashing devices from Z edition to all after Z, it is highly advised to use 0.9.13 and to be sure FTF you flash contain the bootbundle set. I've been reported of hard bricks because of missing such set of files from bundles.
I WANT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION ABOUT THE LATEST BRANCH 0.9.19. Without FSC, the tool will by default include simlock.ta if this file is present in the FTF. The result will be a bricked phone
As a workaround, until I release a patch, please please tick the exlude simlock.ta if you see it in the list.
0.9.19.6 fixes the simlock.ta issue. This file is by default excluded. Then it will not be flashed until you explicitely untick the exlcude simlock box. Do it at your own risk."
thesweeney80 said:
ahhh, now that makes sense (re: some root solutions including a recovery), thank you for clearing that up.
One final thing (before I dive in and at least get KK installed+rooted)...
If I have to start reading one more subject I think my head will explode lol so If you could just clear up one thing about RIC Killer....
I want full root, not partial - do I have to mess with RIC Killer or can I leave it alone?
On the guide I am trying to follow; someone said they ended up 'half rooted' - would that be because of RIC killer or user error when creating the pre-rooted zip?
just dont want to go through all this and end up only being half rooted haha, cheers.
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Even if you don't have a RIC killer installed, most root stuff will work fine. On the Z1, the RIC will prevent you from doing specific things, most importantly mounting /system as writable, which is necessary for certain type of advanced modifications.
However, if you install XZDR, you'll get the custom recovery + the RIC killer. I would just do that.
edit: ok so after checking flashtool it seems I already have the right one (NOT SONY)... I have version 0.9.19.7 But there are two warnings (pasted below) on the flashtool thread.
Does the first warning simply mean 'Use the latest version'??
I have no clue about the second warning...do i just uncheck the uption regarding simlock.ta IF it is in the list of options when I flash kitkat? I have no clue if my ftf file includes simlock.ta.
Both warnings mention bricks and hard bricks so I'm taking them pretty seriously haha.
Any advice on these warnings would be great, thanks for your patience.
"WARNING : Since Xperia Z, sony added a new set of files I called bootbundle. Those files can be bundled from 0.9.13 and can be flashed from 0.9.13 only. To all those flashing devices from Z edition to all after Z, it is highly advised to use 0.9.13 and to be sure FTF you flash contain the bootbundle set. I've been reported of hard bricks because of missing such set of files from bundles.
I WANT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION ABOUT THE LATEST BRANCH 0.9.19. Without FSC, the tool will by default include simlock.ta if this file is present in the FTF. The result will be a bricked phone
As a workaround, until I release a patch, please please tick the exlude simlock.ta if you see it in the list.
0.9.19.6 fixes the simlock.ta issue. This file is by default excluded. Then it will not be flashed until you explicitely untick the exlcude simlock box. Do it at your own risk."
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Correct, the warning is to just make sure you use a version later than 0.9.13; you're fine to use 0.9.19.7. It will tell you that .8 is out, but the change is not important to you. You don't need to do anything special regarding simlock.ta.
If you have an external SD card, copy everything you want to flash onto the phone before starting (5.1.1 prerooted, SuperSU, XZDR), so it's already there when you need it.
xasbo said:
Even if you don't have a RIC killer installed, most root stuff will work fine. On the Z1, the RIC will prevent you from doing specific things, most importantly mounting /system as writable, which is necessary for certain type of advanced modifications.
However, if you install XZDR, you'll get the custom recovery + the RIC killer. I would just do that.
Correct, the warning is to just make sure you use a version later than 0.9.13; you're fine to use 0.9.19.7. It will tell you that .8 is out, but the change is not important to you. You don't need to do anything special regarding simlock.ta.
If you have an external SD card, copy everything you want to flash onto the phone before starting (5.1.1 prerooted, SuperSU, XZDR), so it's already there when you need it.
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THANKS.
So As long as I install XZDR I will have RIC killer and that will ensure a full root? thats great, cheers..
Thanks for clearing up the flashtool warnings too, very much appreciated.
As for your final tip about the SD card... do you mean copy everything to the SD card? or the phone? I'm ASSuming you mean the SD card as the phone memory will get wiped during flasshing if I clear everything? no?
Sorry mate I'm having a total brain-fart after everything Ive read, my comprehension skills are at an all time low lol. Tired.
Thanks again for all ya help mate, I'm just about ready to get this crap done... and then once Ive finished I know I'll be thinking 'wtf was all the panicking about? lol.
THANKS.
thesweeney80 said:
THANKS.
So As long as I install XZDR I will have RIC killer and that will ensure a full root? thats great, cheers..
Thanks for clearing up the flashtool warnings too, very much appreciated.
As for your final tip about the SD card... do you mean copy everything to the SD card? or the phone? I'm ASSuming you mean the SD card as the phone memory will get wiped during flasshing if I clear everything? no?
Sorry mate I'm having a total brain-fart after everything Ive read, my comprehension skills are at an all time low lol. Tired.
Thanks again for all ya help mate, I'm just about ready to get this crap done... and then once Ive finished I know I'll be thinking 'wtf was all the panicking about? lol.
THANKS.
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Make sure you flash SuperSU and XZDR at the same time. If you do not, it will not work correctly (still only partial root). If you make your own pre-root ZIP, you can roll them into it and do it in one fell swoop.
Yeah. External SD card = not the phone. If you do a clean flash (which you should), you will be wiping the phone storage.
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Make sure you flash SuperSU and XZDR at the same time. If you do not, it will not work correctly (still only partial root). If you make your own pre-root ZIP, you can roll them into it and do it in one fell swoop.
Yeah. External SD card = not the phone. If you do a clean flash (which you should), you will be wiping the phone storage.
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You're the man, man...THANKS. :highfive:
I'll check the pre-root zip I found and if it doesnt have Supersu included I'll make my own and include XZDR too - I like the idea of having things 'slipstreamed' into one flash - thanks for the tip.
Thanks a lot for all your help in calming all my little worries about this process,,, very much appreciated.
I'll do the whole lot tomorrow and report back... thanks again.
Suggestion - since you are re-learning and your goal at the moment is to have a rooted 5.1.1, I suggest you download and install Flashtool for windows. Go to http://www.flashtool.net/index.php. Now in Flashtool, your need to install the appropriate drivers for your device/s. Instructions searching (I'm doing my lunch while typing reply - lol). Then use XperiFirm which is integrated in Flashtool. It has its own icon, just click it so you can download a 5.0.2 FTF for yor region. Install that 5.0.2 FTF on your phone using Flashtool (Flash it Baby! Flash it!) Then you can root 5.0.2 with ease using Kingroot. Replace Kingroot with SuperSU. Then install NUT's Dual recovery. Then you can download any of the pre-rooted 5.1.1 FTFs XDA peeps are putting up under the General section and boom. You are now on 5.1.1. with root.
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Suggestion - since you are re-learning and your goal at the moment is to have a rooted 5.1.1, I suggest you download and install Flashtool for windows. Go to http://www.flashtool.net/index.php. Now in Flashtool, your need to install the appropriate drivers for your device/s. Instructions searching (I'm doing my lunch while typing reply - lol). Then use XperiFirm which is integrated in Flashtool. It has its own icon, just click it so you can download a 5.0.2 FTF for yor region. Install that 5.0.2 FTF on your phone using Flashtool (Flash it Baby! Flash it!) Then you can root 5.0.2 with ease using Kingroot. Replace Kingroot with SuperSU. Then install NUT's Dual recovery. Then you can download any of the pre-rooted 5.1.1 FTFs XDA peeps are putting up under the General section and boom. You are now on 5.1.1. with root.
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cheers mate, I appreciate all the help I can get lol.
I decided to go with 5.0.2 instead of kitkat, but when I click on the .270 firmware links in xperifirm I get an error which says:
"Incomplete Firmware.
The following files are missing on the server:
fsp.zip.
Proceed with caution"
I clicked on the latest 5.1.1 firmwares and none of them give this error... so does the error simply mean that .270 is not the latest version? I couldnt find the answer in google. Are thes firmwares without fsp.zip safe to flash?
Thanks again.
edit: hmmm looks like i'll have to flash 4.4 instead.
When I try to download a .270 (5.0.2) firmware in xperifirm; it stops downloading after a few seconds and says a reuired file is missing
If I try to download one of the .368 firmwares it downloads ok
edit 2: F*ck my life... Not enough space on C: for unpacked ftf file (Small c partition on SSD) ... so unless there is a way for flashtool to flash from d:\...\firmware im screwed. I'll try compressing (NTFS) the c drive and hope thats enough
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edit 2: F*ck my life... Not enough space on C: for unpacked ftf file (Small c partition on SSD) ... so unless there is a way for flashtool to flash from d:\...\firmware im screwed. I'll try compressing (NTFS) the c drive and hope thats enough
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There is a solution, but it's slightly complicated. Proceed at your own risk, maybe do a little research to make sure you understand what I'm tell you to do.
1) Browse to C:\Users\<username>\. if you aren't already, show hidden files and folders.
2) Grab the .flashTool directory and move it onto a drive with sufficient free space (e.g., D:\.flashTool).
3) Go to Start and type cmd into the search field. When cmd.exe shows up, right-click and select Run As Administrator.
4) Change to the user directory ("cd C:\Users\<username>").
5) Make a junction point named .flashTool pointed to where ever you moved the folder (e.g., "mklink /j .flashTool D:\.flashTool").
This will make flashtool think that its settings/data folder is in the right place, when really it's just a fake folder linked somewhere else.
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There is a solution, but it's slightly complicated. Proceed at your own risk, maybe do a little research to make sure you understand what I'm tell you to do.
1) Browse to C:\Users\<username>\. if you aren't already, show hidden files and folders.
2) Grab the .flashTool directory and move it onto a drive with sufficient free space (e.g., D:\.flashTool).
3) Go to Start and type cmd into the search field. When cmd.exe shows up, right-click and select Run As Administrator.
4) Change to the user directory ("cd C:\Users\<username>").
5) Make a junction point named .flashTool pointed to where ever you moved the folder (e.g., "mklink /j .flashTool D:\.flashTool").
This will make flashtool think that its settings/data folder is in the right place, when really it's just a fake folder linked somewhere else.
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Thanks again mate. Ive done that once before and forgotten all about it.
This time I just compressed c:\ with NTFS compression and it gained just enough space (F*ck you Winsxs).
But the above info will surely come in handy in future, so once again: Thanks! Tou've been a big help.
Just about to install XZDR and a pre-rooted 5.1.1 :fingers-crossed: Cheers mate :good:
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Thanks again mate. Ive done that once before and forgotten all about it.
This time I just compressed c:\ with NTFS compression and it gained just enough space (F*ck you Winsxs).
But the above info will surely come in handy in future, so once again: Thanks! Tou've been a big help.
Just about to install XZDR and a pre-rooted 5.1.1 :fingers-crossed: Cheers mate :good:
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What a way you went through.
As you already were on 5.0.2 and rooted you just had to install xzdr to your phone.
After that you could flash one of the Pre-Rooted zip files you need.
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What a way you went through.
As you already were on 5.0.2 and rooted you just had to install xzdr to your phone.
After that you could flash one of the Pre-Rooted zip files you need.
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well I know that now dont I? :silly: haha
yeah I was on a kingrooted 5.02, and should have just installed XZDR etc but I upgraded to 5.1.1 ASSunming I could root it with kingroot again, big mistake.
If I had read about kingroot not working on 5.1.1 I could have saved 24hrs worth of headaches.
Oh well... all done now. Rooted on 5.1.1, busybox installed and all
Now begins the long process of re-installing and customizing all over again *yipee*
No doubt I will go through all this again in a few weeks when I decide to unlock the BL and install a customROM And kernel
THIS is why I spent a few years with a 'dumb' phone after my HD2... ohhh the joys of flashing.
BIG Thanks to evryone who helped me out on this especially Xasbo, Gamer4Life and Deathschythe33. CHEERS
:good: glad you got it sorted.
Please Xasbo help, I Have loop all the time
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:good: glad you got it sorted.
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Please, kan you help, I flashed downgrading my C6903 from .386 to C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Stripped, and got loops. Then I Tried again with several firmwares.108 and .386 and got the same result Loop :crying::crying:
I flashed with C6903_14.4.A.108 Generic SG and everything went fine, I got this massage:"NFC Firmware updating" "Don´t turn off you device", and got loop. Oh my god???? What Iam doing wrong?
Any suggestion. Thank you
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Please, kan you help, I flashed downgrading my C6903 from .386 to C6903_14.4.A.0.108_Stripped, and got loops. Then I Tried again with several firmwares.108 and .386 and got the same result Loop :crying::crying:
I flashed with C6903_14.4.A.108 Generic SG and everything went fine, I got this massage:"NFC Firmware updating" "Don´t turn off you device", and got loop. Oh my god???? What Iam doing wrong?
Any suggestion. Thank you
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Hmm. I've never seen that NFC message before. Did it look like that firmware update completed before the phone restarted?
Are you still able to flash anything to the phone? What are you trying to accomplish?
Hey guys!
I finally decided to update my z1 compact to 5.1.1
Currently I'm on 4.4.4 (.0.157 firmware); it's rooted thanks to a guide found on this forum that let me to not unlock my bootloader (but sincerely I don't remember which one was since it's passed about one 1 year :cyclops: )
I have to say that I've NOT backuped my DRM keys yet (bc I'm very very lazy :angel: )
Now, what should I do in order to experience new Lollipop thrill on my device but still keeping root and bootloader locked on it? Can I update directly with new official firmware using Flashtool (and then root it) or os there some pre-rooted firmware that can be suitable with my case?
Sorry guys, I wrote in wrong section. I reported the thread to moderator already. I'm waiting for the shifting. I'm really sorry
Have a look at this thread --> PRF Creator
Basically, download the Lollipop firmware, and create a pre-rooted, flashable zip file that you can flash from your existing recovery.
If you look in the forums, some users will probably have uploaded a pre-rooted lollipop zip for you to try if you don't feel comfortable trying to do it yourself.
Hope that helps
MickieH said:
Have a look at this thread --> PRF Creator
Basically, download the Lollipop firmware, and create a pre-rooted, flashable zip file that you can flash from your existing recovery.
If you look in the forums, some users will probably have uploaded a pre-rooted lollipop zip for you to try if you don't feel comfortable trying to do it yourself.
Hope that helps
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Could this be a solution for the c6916 American z1s as well?
Helgaiden said:
Could this be a solution for the c6916 American z1s as well?
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Hiya,
It should work with any firmware really.
I've used it for my Z1, and my Z3, and used UK, CE1, and CE5 firmwares with no problems at all.
If you need any help, let me know.
MickieH said:
Hiya,
It should work with any firmware really.
I've used it for my Z1, and my Z3, and used UK, CE1, and CE5 firmwares with no problems at all.
If you need any help, let me know.
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Even with a locked bootloader?
Helgaiden said:
Even with a locked bootloader?
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Yes. They're only stock roms. They still have stock kernels.
You only need to unlock the bootloader if you want to run a custom kernel, like Cyanogenmod, or any other custom rom that doesn't use a stock Kernel.
All of my phones still have locked bootloaders.
All PRF does (very cleverly) is inject root and recovery into a stock ROM. The only reason the output file is a zip file is because we can't create ftf files ourselves. Those are signed by Sony. All you do is install the zip from an already existing recovery, so your phone must be rooted, with recovery already.
MickieH said:
Yes. They're only stock roms. They still have stock kernels.
You only need to unlock the bootloader if you want to run a custom kernel, like Cyanogenmod, or any other custom rom that doesn't use a stock Kernel.
All of my phones still have locked bootloaders.
All PRF does (very cleverly) is inject root and recovery into a stock ROM. The only reason the output file is a zip file is because we can't create ftf files ourselves. Those are signed by Sony. All you do is install the zip from an already existing recovery, so your phone must be rooted, with recovery already.
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I don't think recovery exists for the z1s c6916, but I do have root. What options are there for that?
Helgaiden said:
I don't think recovery exists for the z1s c6916, but I do have root. What options are there for that?
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XZ Dual Recovery should work on the C6916 according to NUT.
I don't see why it wouldn't, it's still a Z1
It's in the compatibility list here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647487
Have you ever tried it?
MickieH said:
XZ Dual Recovery should work on the C6916 according to NUT.
I don't see why it wouldn't, it's still a Z1
It's in the compatibility list here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647487
Have you ever tried it?
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I have not. Thus far the bootloader has not been unlockable so I haven't really tried doing much, or anyone else for that matter.
Helgaiden said:
I have not. Thus far the bootloader has not been unlockable so I haven't really tried doing much, or anyone else for that matter.
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You don't need an unlocked bootloader for nuts xz dual recovery.
The only thing you need is root, because you need permission to write to your phones system partition.
motorazrv3 said:
You don't need an unlocked bootloader for nuts xz dual recovery.
The only thing you need is root, because you need permission to write to your phones system partition.
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So then I wonder if anyone has used this method to flash a newer 5.1.1 factory image from a regular z1 onto the US tmo Z1s...
Helgaiden said:
So then I wonder if anyone has used this method to flash a newer 5.1.1 factory image from a regular z1 onto the US tmo Z1s...
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I don't know but I think not. Because the phones hardware isn't the same on all z1 types, you get the risk that something is not working or you are bricking your phone. That's the reason we have the different phone models like 6902, 6903,....
That's right. You can flash NUT's recovery on locked bootloader devices, that is what it was designed for, and the reason it's called 'lockeddualrecovery' :good:
If you flash a different model numbers firmware, then the modem is likely to be wrong for your carrier. If you look at some of the rom threads you'll see a lot of the Z1 C6903 roms contain patches for the C6902 also, which I'm assuming is the C6902's correct modem.
I don't know if you could flash another models on yours, but exclude the modem, thus retaining your own.
If you want to remain on stock, then I would highly recommend downloading your own model firmware from XperiFirm, SuperSU, and lockeddualrecovery for the Z1, then run it through PRF Creator. That way you'll end up with the correct firmware (and thus modem) which would be pre-rooted, with locked dual recovery.
Which firmware do you want to have? The latest for the US TM that I can see is
1277-0679 USA T-mobile US 14.5.B.0.247
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I wonder if we could create a pre-rooted zip from the unbranded UK 14.6.A.1.236 by not including the modem whilst creating the zip.
If you flash a zip containing that firmware, but not the UK modem, it would leave the most up to date modem that you already have, so connectivity should not be lost.
When running PRF Creator, there is a tick box to include the modem or not.
I'm just thinking out loud here, as it seems to be a similar issue to the C6902 patches on C6903 firmares.
I'm no developer, so I could be wrong.
MickieH said:
That's right. You can flash NUT's recovery on locked bootloader devices, that is what it was designed for, and the reason it's called 'lockeddualrecovery' :good:
If you flash a different model numbers firmware, then the modem is likely to be wrong for your carrier. If you look at some of the rom threads you'll see a lot of the Z1 C6903 roms contain patches for the C6902 also, which I'm assuming is the C6902's correct modem.
I don't know if you could flash another models on yours, but exclude the modem, thus retaining your own.
If you want to remain on stock, then I would highly recommend downloading your own model firmware from XperiFirm, SuperSU, and lockeddualrecovery for the Z1, then run it through PRF Creator. That way you'll end up with the correct firmware (and thus modem) which would be pre-rooted, with locked dual recovery.
Which firmware do you want to have? The latest for the US TM that I can see is
1277-0679 USA T-mobile US 14.5.B.0.247
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I wonder if we could create a pre-rooted zip from the unbranded UK 14.6.A.1.236 by not including the modem whilst creating the zip.
If you flash a zip containing that firmware, but not the UK modem, it would leave the most up to date modem that you already have, so connectivity should not be lost.
When running PRF Creator, there is a tick box to include the modem or not.
I'm just thinking out loud here, as it seems to be a similar issue to the C6902 patches on C6903 firmares.
I'm no developer, so I could be wrong.
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I like where you're going with this. Hopefully a dev chimes in.
I just want to be off the broken memory leak firmware the z1s c6916 got stuck with. It gets absolutely crippling at times.
Helgaiden said:
I like where you're going with this. Hopefully a dev chimes in.
I just want to be off the broken memory leak firmware the z1s c6916 got stuck with. It gets absolutely crippling at times.
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Same here buddy, same here.
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Right, well, first things first.
To install recovery, download this --> Z1 Locked Dual Recovery 2.8.21 by NUT
This is the installer which you can run from your PC.
Make sure you have unknown sources ticked in your security settings, and USB debugging turned on in Developer options for it to work.
I use that one as I haven't tried the new combined installer/flashable recovery yet, and I know this one works fine on my Z1.
You could always download and use the newer combined one from NUT's download page if you wish, it's here --> Combined installer and flashable package
It's up to you on that.
Extract the zip file, then connect your phone to your PC while it's turned on, and double click the 'install.bat' and follow the on screen prompts. You will find that it will test reboot into recovery once it's finished anyway, if I remember correctly.
Once you have installed it, I would boot into recovery. You can press volume up or down when you turn your phone on, and it vibrates, or look for the NDR Utils app in your app drawer which is great for getting into recovery.
I like to use TWRP myself.
I'd create a backup once you're in recovery then at least you won't have to worry too much if anything does go wrong later.
Make sure you have a copy of the backup on an external SD card I would recommend.
That solves that problem.
Now, the newest firmware I have on my Z1 I have used PRF Creator, and created a zip file of it without including the modem files.
If you open the zip and look inside you will see the amss modem files, which are usually in the root directory, are missing.
This pre-rooted zip is C6903_Customized UK_1276-0875_14.6.A.1.236_R6D but without the modem files.
The zip can be downloaded here --> 14.6.A.1.236 For C6916 TM - UK Unbranded firmware with NO MODEM FILES
Be warned anyone downloading this that IT DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY MODEM FILES.
If you flash this in recovery, it will leave your current modem as is.
Now I can't guarantee that this will work, but you will have a working recovery anyway, so if it does go pear shaped, you can always restore that, and you'll be good.
PRF Zips will not wipe your userdata either, so anything on your internal memory will not be wiped.
While I find this good for minor OS version jumps, like 5.02 to 5.1.1, I do not recommend it for jumping different versions, i.e Lollipop back to KitKat for example. For something like that, I would personally prefer a full wipe.
Anyway, get the recovery installed and working, and once you're happy that you know how to use it, go ahead and flash the zip and see how you go.
If you do try it, and it works, great, just check your connectivity, mobile data, 2G, 3G, LTE, to make sure it's working ok.
If it doesn't work, I'm really sorry to have wasted your time, but you should be fine with a backup ready to fix any problems. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will be along with a fix.
Anyway, good luck :good:
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Right, well, first things first.
To install recovery, download this --> Z1 Locked Dual Recovery 2.8.21 by NUT
This is the installer which you can run from your PC.
Make sure you have unknown sources ticked in your security settings, and USB debugging turned on in Developer options for it to work.
I use that one as I haven't tried the new combined installer/flashable recovery yet, and I know this one works fine on my Z1.
You could always download and use the newer combined one from NUT's download page if you wish, it's here --> Combined installer and flashable package
It's up to you on that.
Extract the zip file, then connect your phone to your PC while it's turned on, and double click the 'install.bat' and follow the on screen prompts. You will find that it will test reboot into recovery once it's finished anyway, if I remember correctly.
Once you have installed it, I would boot into recovery. You can press volume up or down when you turn your phone on, and it vibrates, or look for the NDR Utils app in your app drawer which is great for getting into recovery.
I like to use TWRP myself.
I'd create a backup once you're in recovery then at least you won't have to worry too much if anything does go wrong later.
Make sure you have a copy of the backup on an external SD card I would recommend.
That solves that problem.
Now, the newest firmware I have on my Z1 I have used PRF Creator, and created a zip file of it without including the modem files.
If you open the zip and look inside you will see the amss modem files, which are usually in the root directory, are missing.
This pre-rooted zip is C6903_Customized UK_1276-0875_14.6.A.1.236_R6D but without the modem files.
The zip can be downloaded here --> 14.6.A.1.236 For C6916 TM - UK Unbranded firmware with NO MODEM FILES
Be warned anyone downloading this that IT DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY MODEM FILES.
If you flash this in recovery, it will leave your current modem as is.
Now I can't guarantee that this will work, but you will have a working recovery anyway, so if it does go pear shaped, you can always restore that, and you'll be good.
PRF Zips will not wipe your userdata either, so anything on your internal memory will not be wiped.
While I find this good for minor OS version jumps, like 5.02 to 5.1.1, I do not recommend it for jumping different versions, i.e Lollipop back to KitKat for example. For something like that, I would personally prefer a full wipe.
Anyway, get the recovery installed and working, and once you're happy that you know how to use it, go ahead and flash the zip and see how you go.
If you do try it, and it works, great, just check your connectivity, mobile data, 2G, 3G, LTE, to make sure it's working ok.
If it doesn't work, I'm really sorry to have wasted your time, but you should be fine with a backup ready to fix any problems. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will be along with a fix.
Anyway, good luck :good:
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i tried to do a clean install and wiped the data, dalvik cache, internal memory (zip file was on external SD), and cache then flashed the zip. After complete, I pressed "reboot." Screen went black and now the LED blinks orange. If I hold the power button, I feel the phone vibrate but nothing happens. Damnit.
edit: got fastboot and flashmode working again and I'm flashing stock 4.4.4. Maybe I'll try this method again to make sure I didn't mess something up along the way.
edit 2: after restoring stock 4.4.4 , re-rooting, re-doing the nuts recovery, then reflashing the the above zip...same problem. No hope for us on the c6916. I'll go back to 4.4.4 that ran better than 5.0.2 and just deal with the SD card issues in KK. Maybe i'll root it to fix that though..
So I just found out that Android auto still require lollipop or better. DAMNIT. Just when I'm happy by moving back to 4.4.4 i find out that to use a feature of the vehicle I'm getting soon, I need to go back to the broken ass 5.0.2 lollipop firmware us Z1s owners are stuck with.
There has to be a solution to get us to 5.1. There just has to be. Any ideas?
What would happen if we tried creating a 5.1.1 pre-rooted zip for the tmobile z1s without the kernel and without the modem. I assume 5.1.1 would just not boot with the outdated kernel for 5.0.2, but it might still be worth trying, right?