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So i have had my Bionic for about 2 months now and im looking to get a new phone already. Love the Bionic to death, just bored of it, and was wondering what phones compare to the Bionic for specs and root capabilities and BL unlock. I know Verizon is pretty tight when it comes to phones that have bL that are unlockable. So what would you all recommend as an upgrade?
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XperianceIT said:
So i have had my Bionic for about 2 months now and im looking to get a new phone already. Love the Bionic to death, just bored of it, and was wondering what phones compare to the Bionic for specs and root capabilities and BL unlock. I know Verizon is pretty tight when it comes to phones that have bL that are unlockable. So what would you all recommend as an upgrade?
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If I didn't lose my unlimited plan I'd get the Galaxy S3, that being said, how can you be bored with the Bionic? It's not a clown:laugh:, just a phone.
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It's not a clown:laugh:, just a phone.
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LMFAO! Mine didn't come with the red nose and after 6 months stopped making animal shaped balloons!
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I've had mine since December, and am planning to have it for 2 years (longer if I don't break it). What's to get bored of? Does a 6 month newer phone get you a different internet?
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Well if you're going from 3G to 4G i'd say it's not any different but faster XD. With the new ICS coming out your Bionic will be different. Not sure how you get bored with a phone after 2 months. I've had mine sometime after launch and with the new ICS Leak it's like a whole new phone. I am not sure what you're looking for especially if you're looking at a phone with near specs. If after 2 month you're bored of it obviously the phone wasn't meant for you. ICS brought more life out of the phone for me. As stated above I intend on keeping this phone for years especially with VZW's so called shared plans. Almost all VZWs phones have a locked bootloader. Hopefully Hashcode gets us the ability to load custom kernels then that's when the fun begins.
I find the bionic to be as good as a nexus with the leaked ics. Then again I prefer stability and sticking to a rom for several months at a time unless there's major bugs
So personally id keep the bionic as there really aren't any huge upgrades out there.
Unless you love a amoled screen but I really like the display on the bionic as I can make out things in sunlight
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Keep it!
There aren't really any phones out with more horsepower than the Bionic - with dual core and a gig of ram it can run any Android flavor just fine.
I'm curious - what is it that "bores" you with the Bionic? What feature would you be looking for?
Not meaning this to be snarky - but seems to me if you're "bored" with your phone you have waay too much time on your hands. Start developing with it if you have free time - us regular users will love you for the work!
I tried to like this phone, but I have come to the realization that I just don't. No bumper, charging mat or screen protector has helped me enjoy it anymore. Getting this device to work correctly on at&t is a nightmare, I'm having connection issues to this day. No apn, imei or change of plan has fixed it. The phone has light bleed, which is frustrating to look at and buzzing which is annoying to hear. Rma is not my thing it takes to long and I've heard to many horror stories.
Stock android is nice though I feel the experience of say the note 2 is better. I'd rather have a skinned version of android and then when I am looking for a vanilla look and feel I can ROM aokp or cm 10 which seems to be the better version of stock android anyway with added utility and customizations.
Think my run with at&t and my nexus is over. Time for a new beginning with Verizon LTE which is available 100% in my area where at&t is not and I think I'm going with a droid DNA.
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Cool story bro. Tell it again..:thumbup:
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Good choice man! this device is not for everyone :good:
As for me AT&T works fine in my area, never had any problems. Had a few friends not getting signal earlier with their sprint iphones and I let them use mine to make a call :silly:
Hey man, it's your choice! Pure capitalistic decision here. You are not satisfied with the device, which you have every right to feel that way. It doesn't fit your needs and you like the Note 2. You don't need some AOSP zealots approval to move on. I hate AT&T personally. They treat you like crap, and though they are the No.2 carrier, with GSM, I wouldn't go back to them for all the tea in China. If I was a high roller, I might consider Verizon as they hands down have the best coverage in the USA. Their 3g is slower than my T-Mobile... and even sometimes their LTE, but good luck getting ANY 3g coverage in upstate NY (aunt lives there) on T-Mobile outside Rochester proper. If you would be served better with a Verizon Note 2, go there brother and be happy with your purchase! I personally don't want to go back to touchwiz (been AOSP too long), but the phone is awesome! Has a beautiful screen, expandable storage, great processor, 2nd best Android battery life (Razr HD Maxx being No.1), S-Pen, multi-window multitasking, etc.
Don't think you have to have a Nexus or the acceptance of the Nexus crowd. Vote with your bucks and your feet. Wish you well with the Note 2.
Are you going to sell the Nexus?
I personally have had zero issues on AT&T via Straight Talk and love this device. I would highly recommend sticking with a GSM provider though, if you have service in your area, T-Mobile perhaps? As GSM unlocked devices gives one much more freedom to move carriers, plus, I suffered hell with Verizon, they are by far one of the worst companies I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with; never again.
Either way, good luck.
It's called T mobile?
I honestly never see the purpose of these threads. The forum isn't your personal blog. And I don't think any body necessarily has any care what you're saying (as mentioned previously by the person who said cool story bro). If you don't like the phone that's fine, just be on your way. Not being mean or anything but the general forum isn't ones blog
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We don't need a thread to be made just because someone is either new to the device or if they're selling it. Just move along quietly and it will be better for everyone.
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how much for the n4???
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how much for the n4???
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Buying a device on xda is against the rules
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Guys, we should band together and hold a candlelight vigil in an attempt to convince the OP to stick with the Nexus. That's what a good community does, right?
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The beauty of android is, there are tons of devices out there and great choices. Ill suggest the note 2.
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Guys, we should band together and hold a candlelight vigil in an attempt to convince the OP to stick with the Nexus. That's what a good community does, right?
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Nah, we'll just tie him up to a log and send him off in a viking funeral.......except that he is still breathing when we light the first torch.
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I tried to like this phone, but I have come to the realization that I just don't. No bumper, charging mat or screen protector has helped me enjoy it anymore. Getting this device to work correctly on at&t is a nightmare, I'm having connection issues to this day. No apn, imei or change of plan has fixed it. The phone has light bleed, which is frustrating to look at and buzzing which is annoying to hear. Rma is not my thing it takes to long and I've heard to many horror stories.
Stock android is nice though I feel the experience of say the note 2 is better. I'd rather have a skinned version of android and then when I am looking for a vanilla look and feel I can ROM aokp or cm 10 which seems to be the better version of stock android anyway with added utility and customizations.
Think my run with at&t and my nexus is over. Time for a new beginning with Verizon LTE which is available 100% in my area where at&t is not and I think I'm going with a droid DNA.
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Feel sorry for you, love mine N4!
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Damn, how much is that Verizon plan going to cost a month?
Enjoy your new phone though Droid DNA looks like a great phone too.
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We don't need a thread to be made just because someone is either new to the device or if they're selling it. Just move along quietly and it will be better for everyone.
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Well my wife and I got a call from T-Mobile about their new warranty plan and I think I would like to upgrade my phone.. i'm torn because I do like the exhibit (ONLY BECAUSE OF ALL THE HARD WORK FROM THE DEVELOPERS ON THIS SITE) and so i'm hesitant to let it go.. but I would like something that has a faster processor.. bigger screen.. and some built in new features..
I shopped around a little bit.. but you all here know so much about these phones.. I wanted your opinions.. what is the best phone sold by T-Mobile and why?
I originally thought i'd get the Galaxy S4... but I know a lot of guys here decide to get the Nexus 4.. I saw that the Nexus is a pure google experience verses the S4 has a Skinned version.. I did see this morning that there is an S4 "google play edition".. but not sure if T-Mobile sells it..
I also saw the HTC One and Xperia on the shelf.. Can you all please let me know your thoughts?
Thank you!
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Well my wife and I got a call from T-Mobile about their new warranty plan and I think I would like to upgrade my phone.. i'm torn because I do like the exhibit (ONLY BECAUSE OF ALL THE HARD WORK FROM THE DEVELOPERS ON THIS SITE) and so i'm hesitant to let it go.. but I would like something that has a faster processor.. bigger screen.. and some built in new features..
I shopped around a little bit.. but you all here know so much about these phones.. I wanted your opinions.. what is the best phone sold by T-Mobile and why?
I originally thought i'd get the Galaxy S4... but I know a lot of guys here decide to get the Nexus 4.. I saw that the Nexus is a pure google experience verses the S4 has a Skinned version.. I did see this morning that there is an S4 "google play edition".. but not sure if T-Mobile sells it..
I also saw the HTC One and Xperia on the shelf.. Can you all please let me know your thoughts?
Thank you!
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Its all personal reference no T-Mobile doesn't sell the Google edition s4. I think why ppl like the nexus its a Google phone it will always be the first to receive stock updates. Plus your get the pure android experience and doesn't cost a arm and a leg plus your first born Lol. But if you want all the bells and whistles go with the s4.
Does anyone know if any new phones will be out soon?
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Im leaning towards the nexus but i am nervous about internal battery and no external sd slot. Thoughts?
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Does anyone know if any new phones will be out soon?
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A couple moto x , lg has a new one and samsung note 3 will be coming up
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Im leaning towards the nexus but i am nervous about internal battery and no external sd slot. Thoughts?
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It's only my opinion, and you are free to dismiss it at your leisure, but a replaceable sd card and battery are very important. This Exhibit is just about perfect for my needs, and the size is perfect. My wife liked it so much, she bought one (tho she's still on the stock T-Mobile flavor of GB).
Keep up the good work, guys! I hope to use this phone for many years.
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Im leaning towards the nexus but i am nervous about internal battery and no external sd slot. Thoughts?
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Get the 32gb I think there's been talk about a 64gb version
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A couple moto x , lg has a new one and samsung note 3 will be coming up
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Whats the new lg coming put? The biggest plus for me and the nexus is quick op updates
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It's only my opinion, and you are free to dismiss it at your leisure, but a replaceable sd card and battery are very important. This Exhibit is just about perfect for my needs, and the size is perfect. My wife liked it so much, she bought one (tho she's still on the stock T-Mobile flavor of GB).
Keep up the good work, guys! I hope to use this phone for many years.
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Thank you. You are right the exhibit is a great phone with these newer roms thanks to all the guys who work on them. I do know the size of some of these new phones is awkward.
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Jaws4God said:
Whats the nexus g coming put? The biggest plus for me and the nexus is quick op updates
(key lime pie soon? )
Thank you. You are right the exhibit is a great phone with these newer roms thanks to all the guys who work on them. I do know the size of some of these new phones is awkward.
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Lg has the new g2 and another one nexus is a good phone I have one for work and car phone and like the stock 4.2 experience and just leaving it the way it is til I get bored then I'll download the 4.3 update.
Well i got the s4. Gonna take time to get use too... so much bigger in my hand...
Anyone interested in buying my exhibits?
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Jaws4God said:
Well i got the s4. Gonna take time to get use too... so much bigger in my hand...
Anyone interested in buying my exhibits?
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No selling allowed on xda.
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Is anyone going from the nexus 4 to the moto x? I think I am going to custom order it tomorrow and try it out. Just not sure if I will miss the customization
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Is anyone going from the nexus 4 to the moto x? I think I am going to custom order it tomorrow and try it out. Just not sure if I will miss the customization
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I'm giving it some serious thought. I have been trying to move away from running custom Roms and its not that easy. I've been running android since DEC 2009 and its in my skin. Very hard to break this habit! I'm thinking that the moto x just might be the phone that I won't have to mess with to be happy but I may be delusional for who knows what lurks in the long run...
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I'm giving it some serious thought. I have been trying to move away from running custom Roms and its not that easy. I've been running android since DEC 2009 and its in my skin. Very hard to break this habit! I'm thinking that the moto x just might be the phone that I won't have to mess with to be happy but I may be delusional for who knows what lurks in the long run...
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Lol. Same Problem I am having. I am almost sick of tinkering and would like to just have a phone that I don't have to mess with. I am thinking about ordering it custom tomorrow. I will at least have 14 days if I don't like it.
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Lol. Same Problem I am having. I am almost sick of tinkering and would like to just have a phone that I don't have to mess with. I am thinking about ordering it custom tomorrow. I will at least have 14 days if I don't like it.
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Will they give us our money back if we return within 14 days? It's not very clear on the website terms and conditions. Has anyone contacted Motorola and asked?
I'm right there with you guys, I had a nexus 4 (but sold it due to weak reception and limited storage), then a s3 running cm10.1. I wanted a solid phone running aosp and I think the moto x could be that phone. Mine came today and its almost pure stock android. Only the camera is really different. My only real complaint is the lack of wireless charging.
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I know what some of you mean, I'm almost sick of HAVING to root, custom ROM a phone because the offering out of box is still awful, whether it's the skin, bloatware, etc.
There's still so much benefit to rooting that honestly, I feel Android is useless without it still.
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Will they give us our money back if we return within 14 days? It's not very clear on the website terms and conditions. Has anyone contacted Motorola and asked?
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Yes I called. You have 14 days starting the day you receive your phone. If you bought the card from att for the moto maker than you can return to store. If you customized without that then you ship back to moto for full refund - 36 dollar restocking
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dblake15 said:
Lol. Same Problem I am having. I am almost sick of tinkering and would like to just have a phone that I don't have to mess with. I am thinking about ordering it custom tomorrow. I will at least have 14 days if I don't like it.
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Yes I called. You have 14 days starting the day you receive your phone. If you bought the card from att for the moto maker than you can return to store. If you customized without that then you ship back to moto for full refund - 36 dollar restocking
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Seems like a no brainer then...I think I will order one to test...
Thanks for the info,
Y2J
I think I will just buy one at the store tomorrow test it and if I like it I will custom order
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I am in the same boat ... i will read your opinion here !
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I am in the same boat ... i will read your opinion here !
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Will give some preliminary thoughts tomorrow night as I will get it in the morning.
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I Am Marino said:
I know what some of you mean, I'm almost sick of HAVING to root, custom ROM a phone because the offering out of box is still awful, whether it's the skin, bloatware, etc.
There's still so much benefit to rooting that honestly, I feel Android is useless without it still.
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Wow and here I am thinking I was the only one on XDA of all places that was getting tired of custom ROMing. It's not so much a hassle for me as much as I feel that there are some drawbacks to using a custom ROM. I feel that any slowdowns or battery drains, which are getting fairly often with my Nexus 4 on 4.3, are due to CM10.2/PA/AOKP's code and not present with stock ROMs.
As much as the customization is important too, I'd almost give it all up if I can get a smooth, clean, and battery friendly ROM out of the box as intended by Google/Motorola. Tired of all the variabilities. As such, the Moto X is attractive.
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Wow and here I am thinking I was the only one on XDA of all places that was getting tired of custom ROMing. It's not so much a hassle for me as much as I feel that there are some drawbacks to using a custom ROM. I feel that any slowdowns or battery drains, which are getting fairly often with my Nexus 4 on 4.3, are due to CM10.2/PA/AOKP's code and not present with stock ROMs.
As much as the customization is important too, I'd almost give it all up if I can get a smooth, clean, and battery friendly ROM out of the box as intended by Google/Motorola. Tired of all the variabilities. As such, the Moto X is attractive.
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I said it in another thread, if the One or Moto X had a larger battery, would have been perfect.
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Is anyone going from the nexus 4 to the moto x? I think I am going to custom order it tomorrow and try it out. Just not sure if I will miss the customization
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Sold my N4 and got the X a few days ago. Couldn't be happier.
If Google had a restore system that worked like Apple's does I wouldn't even root.
I was thinking about picking up a $199 Nexus 4 or paying the off-contract price to get the custom Moto X.
The more I think about it, while the Nexus 4 is a fabulous deal, it's just cheaper really. No LTE isn't good for me where I am since LTE is very fast in St. Louis. The hardware customization cannot be understated.
The other features such as Active Notifications and Touchless Control, which won me over originally on my X decision, don't exist the same way on the N4. So it's still a big difference to me. If I already had the N4, it would be tougher to sell now since the resale value instantly just dropped. But I am still thinking Moto X.
I am torn between purchasing the Moto X off contract (for 550) or buying the N4 at the price it is now but then possibly regretting it since google is putting it at this price because of a new Nexus along the way some time in October, which I am assuming it will be somewhere in the 350 range like the N4 was.
But then again if the Nexus 5 (or whatever it is called) is still cheaper than the Moto X it makes it kind of easier to decide still on what to get.
Doesn't the N4 not have LTE? Seems like that would be a big reason to get the moto X.
I haven't received my X yet, but I think the only thing that is going to bother me is not being able to wifi tether to my laptop. Hopefully this is something that can be enabled if someone just figures out a root exploit (as opposed to a bootloader expoit and a custom rom).
I had the nexus 4 and it was stolen. I just got the Moto X and it is great. However I miss the nexus 4. I loved slim bean on it. All the custom features along with root really made that phone the best phone available especially for the price. Don't get me wrong the active notifications and always on capability of the moto x are awesome but not for almost 600 dollars. I'm going to return it in 14 days and hopefully the nexus 5 will be out. If not I will just get a cheap nexus 4 on craigslist until it does. Since Google just cut the price I should be able to find one for around 100 bucks. That is a ridiculous price for such a great phone. I will miss the always on Google now functionality but will live without it. Who knows maybe the nexus 5 will have it......
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Ok so got the moto x and loving it so far. I have only had it since 1030 cst but this is great. I don't have to worry about root or roms and the phone just works. It is very snappy and love the screen colors. Once again something I had to customize on my n4. Anyway great phone so far.
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For those that came from the galaxy nexus, let me know if you've been happy with the moto x.
I was all set to ditch Verizon and buy the nexus 5. However the nexus 5 has not impressed me as much as I'd have hoped, and my wife is still worried about T-Mobile's service.
What worries me is losing control of my device. I would like to at least have root for backups and tethering. An unlocked bootloader would be nice too.
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You're going to love the moto x coming from a gnex I guarantee it. Better screen, much better battery life, way better performance overall, feels good in the hand and the screen size to device ratio is pretty awesome. Its like all screen looking at the front. Verizon actually pushed the first update fairly quick by their standards and there is root now available for the update too. Its not as easy to root/mess around with this phone as the gnex but its not that bad either.
What he said. This phone is leaps and bounds about the GNex. It's one of those things that you're just going to have to try. If you don't like it, just take it back. But I can guarantee that you won't take it back.
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If you liked the gnex then you'll love the X.. trust me.
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So is the moto x bootloader unlockable and relockable or is the only option the developer version? I'm thinking of sticking with my current plan which would be cheaper than shared data even buying the phone outright.
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So is the moto x bootloader unlockable and relockable or is the only option the developer version? I'm thinking of sticking with my current plan which would be cheaper than shared data even buying the phone outright.
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All are unlockable except att , Verizon and mexico nextel.
Just to clarify, it would be staying on Verizon.
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From what I understand the Verizon boot loader is locked. But you can use safestrap to partition up to 3gb and install a custom ROM to the partition. You would then "dual boot" and select to boot to the custom ROM.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've had the Gnex, GS4, and now the Moto X. All with VZW.
Moto X is the best phone I've ever used.
Get the Dev Ed if you can.
I had the GNex on Verizon and loved it, then I (stupidly) went to T-Mobile and got an HTC One and had nothing but problems from the phone and the carrier, and I'm now happily back on Verizon with the Moto X. I feel confident that I've made the right decision for the next two years. As the others have stated, this phone is monumentally, significantly better than the GNex. Think of it as the GNex 2, where they took all the issues from the GNex, fixed them, and then added a few even more amazing things to really top of the whole experience. You have absolutely NOTHING to worry about if you get this phone. The only thing this phone lacks in relation to the GNex is the unlockable bootloader.
Posted from the comfort of my Moto X.
Pay full retail and get the Dev Edition with unlockable bootloader. Right now you have options for rooting the stock versions, but that may not always be the case, and unlocking the bootloader is the only way to insure complete control over your user experience in the future.
Hashcode and dhacker do brilliant work with SasfeStrap to give stock users options to have limited ROMs but even they will tell you to get a dev device if you can afford it.
New changes in the security in 4.4 KitKat will further complicate rooting and running modified systems on all devices that aren't bootloader unlocked and have custom kernel/boot.img. This is how the intend to segregate the user base into those willing to give up their warranty and take responsibility for managing their devices themselves and normal users. Basically developers and extreme enthusiasts in one group and everyone else in the other group.
^Moto diehard, right here.
You rocking an X, cell?
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Pay full retail and get the Dev Edition with unlockable bootloader.
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Well I would but I don't like the looks of the half white half black, and it may cost significantly more.
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^Moto diehard, right here.
You rocking an X, cell?
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Yes sir! Well...two actually...I have T-Mobile and the VZW Dev editions.
I also am a current Verizon Galaxy Nexus user and considering the Moto X. I have unlimited data and because of my usage it is in my best interest to pay full retail for the phone (trying to hold out for the wooden backs).
Now when you say that the battery life is better, how much better? What is your screen time to total time ratio?
Any signal issues?
How much has the software update improved the camera?
These are my and I am sure others main issues with the Galaxy Nexus. I loved the form factor, the closet to pure Android we Verizon customers could get. The Moto X appears to be the next best or closet thing Verizon customers can get to another Nexus at this point.