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[Bounty - Up to *$755.00 + 3 New Devices & 1 Used (See Details)] AT&T VIVID Unlock
*UP TO $755.00 PLUS 4 devices!
*Please note: some restrictions apply to the devices & the amount of time needed to achieve the required stipulations. If not completed by certain dates, some pledged donations are withdrawn. PLEASE READ THREAD CAREFULLY TILL I CAN COMPILE THE DETAILS INTO THE FIRST POST!
Okay , let's motivate some Developers to join Vivid Development.
I used to do much more with lower level firmware on POX & WM. I would like to do so again, but Android is brand new to me. That said, I learn fast & am willing to beta risky firmware as the basic concepts are similar and I learned a lot from Jockey, BuzzLightYear, Oli, Cmonex, etc.
We just need a few more good teachers.
After this past week I have decided to pass up the SkyRocket & stick with the Vivid. As such, I would like to entice some of the great devs that haven't gotten their Vivid yet to do so.
I am personally willing to make a small (for now) commitment to whomever achieves and posts a working tool our guide allowing users to do the following:
1. Unlock Bootloader - HBoot
2. Achieve a PERMANENT S-Off status
3. True Permanent root
& as a bonus the engineering HBoot would bee great.
I myself am going to be trying to catch up & contribute.
Anyone willing to add to the bounty, please post the amount you are willing and any other low level firmware unlocks or access you would like to also be a part of the bounty.
I also think that if a Dev gets one or two of the three items listed, the bounty be split accordingly, but I'm open to suggestions.
Update - Wild Child has offered 3 devices as seen below.
Wild Child said:
All these must be done and confirmed by myself or Pirateghost to be working 100% before HTC unlocks....or within 1 months time
1st Place....
1. Unlock Bootloader - HBoot
2. Achieve a PERMANENT S-Off status
3. True Permanent root
4. Engineering HBoot
2nd Place....
1. Unlock Bootloader - HBoot
2. Achieve a PERMANENT S-Off status
3. True Permanent root
3rd Place....
Any of the other two mentioned above after the time frame has expired (1 months time...)
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NOW WHAT???.....WHO WANTS THIS BAD ENOUGH?
WC
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As of today, I start the pledges with $30.00 U.S.
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I'd pitch $10 for the above. please?
EDIT: assuming this is achieved before my 30 day return policy, ending around 12/4. if this isn't done by then I may end up returning for GSII(Non skyrocket)
I'll give $20 once we get unlocked bootloader and permanent root
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I've never done much in the way of low-level stuff, but I've been getting more into the details of how Android works, and I'd love to help out!
I have alreadyfound a root and a way to unlock the bootloader but cuz I'm a nice guy ill toss in 10 if someone else can figure it out.. ;p
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i'm raising hell with an HTC representative. I hope to get it escalated soon.
What is the timeframe on allowing the HTC VIVID to be bootloader unlocked. I am fully aware of the consequences, but since this is a device that I bought, I expect to have control of it. As of right now, AT&T gets to dictate what I have installed, and whether or not I have root access. This is ridiculous and unacceptable.
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their first reply:
I understand that you're looking to unlock your phone's bootloader, and would like to know when this can happen. Unfortunately, our technical support department does not have any advanced information about when any phone will be unlockable through our developer website. I would recommend checking the Bootloader section of our developer website (http://htcdev.com/bootloader/), as we update this page as soon as unlock software for any phone becomes available. Thank you for taking the time to contact us.
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my response (awaiting an answer)
I feel like I am being lied to. The exact same device on every other carrier is unlockable, yet the AT&T version is not. Why is that? Is AT&T the one causing the hold up? Do I need to start raising this issue there too? I don't appreciate the Vivid being locked down like this when the Raider is not. Completely unacceptable. I used to praise HTC products after owning so many, but tactics like this are really making me question my choice in manufacturer preference. I might have to return the Vivid and stick with the Galaxy S II at this point. I am wondering, between you and Motorola, who is feeding us more lies?
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i realize this isnt getting very far with some level 1 csr, but i will continue to push the issue as far as i need to get an answer. i really want to know why the AT&T version is the one gimped out of the gate.
tacotino said:
I have alreadyfound a root and a way to unlock the bootloader but cuz I'm a nice guy ill toss in 10 if someone else can figure it out.. ;p
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this just sounds counter productive. if you have ideas, share them.
bounty? absolutely!
I would happily donate to this effort. i would easily donate 40 dollars if everything is achieved!
p.s. PG did you get a vivid???? hooray!!
tacotino said:
I have alreadyfound a root and a way to unlock the bootloader but cuz I'm a nice guy ill toss in 10 if someone else can figure it out.. ;p
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Sharing is caring.
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dagnus said:
p.s. PG did you get a vivid???? hooray!!
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of course
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i'm raising hell with an HTC representative. I hope to get it escalated soon.
their first reply:
my response (awaiting an answer)
i realize this isnt getting very far with some level 1 csr, but i will continue to push the issue as far as i need to get an answer. i really want to know why the AT&T version is the one gimped out of the gate.
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By the way I got the same exact response so I think that is an automated response.
I am also tending to believe AT&T is the reason we are so locked down due to the fact that HTCDev has this statement on their website now that I don't recall seeing when I first got this phone.
"HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions. We continue to work with our partners on this, check back often for ongoing updates about unlockable devices."
The Operator Restrictions sounds like BAD news for us to get an Unlock from them.
I wish I knew about all this coding stuff so I could help. But unfortunately I dont. So like I said in my first post I'll do my part by giving my part in the bounty.
I read an earlier post about sim unlock. The guy got a response from att saying there will be no sim unlock because the phone is exclusive to att. I call bs on that. The same device is on other carries just a different name. Excuses are like a$$h0le$. Everybody's got one and they all stink.
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Take notice that none of the unlocked devices are from AT&T.
As for the SGS2, I had both since 9am on the 6th of November & as you can see in my OP, I kept the Vivid & gave the (unlocked) SkyRocket to the misses.
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By the way I got the same exact response so I think that is an automated response.
I am also tending to believe AT&T is the reason we are so locked down due to the fact that HTCDev has this statement on their website now that I don't recall seeing when I first got this phone.
"HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions. We continue to work with our partners on this, check back often for ongoing updates about unlockable devices."
The Operator Restrictions sounds like BAD news for us to get an Unlock from them.
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yeah, i was assuming this as well. crazy that its like this.
I'm trying to get my hands on a Vivid so I can finally start dev-ing and debugging on my own lol
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I'll pony up some geedus as well. I'd love to see this thing cracked open like the Inspire and have an awesome Dev group.
Tx
I will be willing to assist in any capacity. I have been learning a lot with android devices since few months with the inspire and now the vivid. If any dev would like to recruit some help I certainly be able to learn quickly
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tacotino said:
I have alreadyfound a root and a way to unlock the bootloader but cuz I'm a nice guy ill toss in 10 if someone else can figure it out.. ;p
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Yes, if you have some insight, please do share! We've gotten to where we are with a stable temp root because several of us were tackling the problem and sharing information! I hope that we can continue that towards a real HBOOT unlock!
Put me down for $20
I'll chip in 25 bucks for this project.
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Finally thanks to fjordell the phone is here and I love it !! Buying the battery off tmr morning and the development starts .. Love the incs community u guys are the best !!
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noo!! thsi is bad news!!! but frankly speaking, i feel happy to know that people i know are going for HTC oNE X !! i actually feel as if i have it !!! i battle daily for the one x against the s3!!!also i'd not expect U to go for s3 but still thumbs up and really thanks for ur contributions here!!! still waiting for the transformer though
Sorry to hear this, buddy.
But life goes on, as alwayse. There will alwayse be bumps on the road.
Im happy, that you will keep on working on this device
Im on your codename rom now and i love it. If you keep working on it, to a final realese, it will be my final rom for my incs
I dont use my phone that much more. Not after i got the Nexus 7. Thats also where i know codenames work from
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Too bad... But my IncS is gonna get screwed soon too. At least i think it is charging problems and stuff...will follow u to one x maybe if i get money somehow... But till then IncS until it dies completely
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It's bad news that your IncS is screwed. In the first place for you, but also for us. You are a great developer, and I love all the hard work you did for our device. Your roms are the reason I rooted my phone again after going back to stock for a while. This type of THC phone is aging so we all knew this day was coming. I'm looking forward to your transformer update, I'm sure that ROM will rock! After that I hope to meet you in less then a year in the THC one X section.
Again, thanks for all your hard work!
all develepors wants to get one x
and they deserve it like nik
congratulations you at one x section(league of the biggest players) nik
thanks for all
thanks you made me love my inc s again
This is really bad news...but thanks for your support for incS... Waiting for your transformer...
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Guys to tell you all recently i reported my device was screwed and i got it fixed . after using it for two days the device still had problems with the charging and stuff .. so i went to the service centre and they told me that the motherboard seems screwed .. Finally the phone was dead and i had already spent lots of money already on it .. My Htc Incredible s is gone ..
I got the HTC OneX as i found no use in fixing the incredible s as it costed like lots..
But no worries i didnt have the desire hd or desire s but still roms were released for them .. so its gna be the same for the incredible s from now ..
I am surely gonna be continuing my work for the incs no matter what !!
All the good things have to come to an end .. Im sad but im happy for the support i got from this community .. Look forward to the Transformer cz its still coming .. if anyone has a crappy old incs ( extra one ) i would really appreciate it !!
and if u guys want to upgrade , do upgrade to the HTC OneX cz im gna be there in a wile
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Dude, we are sorry 4 your Fone. But we are always thankful 4 all yo work. Luv most your work and wud luv 2 have even more. Hope we can find a way 2 help u as u ll find a way 2 help us . Congrats n All the best wid yo One X mate :good:.
Its the End of an Era I gez ...
nooooooooo(((((
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that bad news nik =(, I hope you can get another incs in the future and continue your work, it is also amazed with your roms in oneX
Ahhh. I was tempted to get a one x in November, I guess I deffo am now.
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Sorry to hear you lost your phone, at the same time congratulations for your new one!
Unfortunately I'll try to stick out with the IncS for as long as possible, so I won't be able to move on with you...
Thanks again for bringing Jelly Bean to the best (old and retro by now) device around!
Sorry to hear that Nik, we appreciate everything you've done.
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Congrats Nik on the new phone...but really am sad to hear that your inc s broke down... also glass to know that you will continuing working on inc s a bit more...eagerly awaiting the transformer...all the best..:thumbup:
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Nik...WAITING FOR THE TRANSFORMER ROM...!!! pls man...make a gift 4 us (hopefully not the last one):
or Nik hoping for a port on JB Sense 4.5 from OneX to your old friends
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Sorry to hear about the loss of your phone but maybe this will stir some of us who feel confident and capable of doing our own roms in to gear. This does prove nik your one of the best devs out there as I think you made us all lazy with your great roms.
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Nik, thanks for bringing the Inc s to level none of us would have expected. Your Dev skills are unsurpassed as is your loyalty to our group of flashaholics. One xers are very fortunate to be getting your services, any further development
for us is genuinely appreciated. We all know you will be extremely successful in your new endeavors. Thanks for everything!
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Bad news for sure. Thank you for all your hard work, I do fear this is the end of quality development for our device though.
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Best of luck in the HOX community. Will your ports here be released to the public domain now?
Nik, this is not the way to give such news...
A caution at the beginning required,
"Not for faint or weak hearted. Read further at your own risk"
Because, this can lead to heart failure for some IncS fan.
IncS development work was nearly ended, when you come up.
So many ROMs, Project X, Transformer, JB Codename, JB evolution, paranoiddroid appeared in no time, all thanks to you.
It all was looking like dream.
Suddenly, got this news and looks like dream come to end.
Anyway, I believe your priority will be shifted to your new one x. But request you to give at least one stable JB ROM to your old IncS community.
I know you have promised development work for IncS, still putting my request.
Just like my other threads, this one is about the Google Nexus 4 and Root-A-Lot. From what some people have told me this thing has been a hit or miss, but it's rooted and s-off'd a lot of users devices, phone and tablet.
I am not the creator of this one click, but I was told it could be shared freely, as it also describes in the .ZIP contents.
I did not personally try this out myself (My One X is already rooted + S-OFF) so be sure to check it out and read all the documents before trying out this new root exploit.
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It did finally pick up my One X after about 10 mins (more like 2), but like I said I'm already rooted. It looks like it supplies a good amount of phones, and with the 3 different methods for rooting, especially the third, hopefully we will see some good results!
I'm not responsible for harm that comes from this file, I have ran and tested it out to SOME EXTENT. Please be aware of this, and like I said, READ THE DOCUMENTATION.
It states it can:
Root Android 2.x
Root Android 3.x
Root Android 4.x
Rooting Phones and Tablets
Supplies S-OFF as well (80% Chance)
So, like I said, try it out and let me know if it works!
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Why? S-off is technically for HTC only.. Yes?.. Why would we need to unlock our NAND, assuming this can, when there aren't any limitations. Also I'm not sure if the NAND is truly locked like on HTC, as this is my first non HTC phone. And as for Root it isn't that necessary is it? It I thought there was a way to root already through flashing recovery and not unlocking boot loader. Unless secure boot removes the root without unlocked bootloader.
I Downloaded it just to see what it was, and avg yelled at me. Not saying its a virus, but I also have no need for it.
http://goo.gl/HxaiA
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From what the text file reads it's not for just HTC phones... at all..
Eset Smart Security identifies a trojan horse (http://205.196.122.163/3jnnbd3yu38g/rr4ewaa9bp6ben0/Rootalot_106A.zip = ZIP = bin/androidraldaemon.exe een variant van Win32/Injector.ADPP trojan) and cut off the connection. No need for it anyway as unlocking the bootloader and rooting is a piece of cake on this phone.
Maybe it is best OP deletes this thread imo.
https://www.virustotal.com/pl/file/...76e54442cd19c39a6bd2f297e79474bacf6/analysis/
I don't think that this file is somehow harmful to PC. Lots of antiviruses are too sensitive.
lol is this the HTC One X forum???
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Eset Smart Security identifies a trojan horse (http://205.196.122.163/3jnnbd3yu38g/rr4ewaa9bp6ben0/Rootalot_106A.zip = ZIP = bin/androidraldaemon.exe een variant van Win32/Injector.ADPP trojan) and cut off the connection. No need for it anyway as unlocking the bootloader and rooting is a piece of cake on this phone.
Maybe it is best OP deletes this thread imo.
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One out of 34 Virus Scanners identified it as a "injector" variant to me. I'll leave it for the users to decide, if a Mod wants it gone so be it, I don't see the harm though, I ran it myself and noticed no difference in anything.
A lot of these type of apps are flagged by Anti-Virus, there's nothing new there
What I can't understand is why you've come in a Nexus/LG device forum with a "one click root" and S-OFF solution? S-OFF has absolutely nothing to do with the Nexus 4.
The manufacturer of this phone has provided an app called "Fastboot" which allows you to unlock the bootloader and to flash the recovery partition. It's a feature. Source.Android.com walks you through, step-by-step the incredibly simple, secure process of how to do it.
The Nexus phones released us from downloading suspicious EXE's that do God-knows-what from people off of forums, yet here we still are. It's really unbelievable.
I'd be interested in more information about this "root-a-lot" exploit. I've never heard of it, and a quick search on Google doesn't pull anything up.
As for the other two (ZergRush and PSNeuter), those holes were patched a long time ago, and they haven't worked on Android since version 4.0.1.
Somebody, sniff the traffic going through the application for suspicious trojan-like connections. Nexus devices are exclusively made for developers, with everything provided to securely unlock and do whatever you want with the device.
Do not even try to install this app without understanding the risks. Topic must be removed, author - banned.
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I'd be interested in more information about this "root-a-lot" exploit. I've never heard of it, and a quick search on Google doesn't pull anything up.
As for the other two (ZergRush and PSNeuter), those holes were patched a long time ago, and they haven't worked on Android since version 4.0.1.
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That's a point, when i realised something here is wrong
I searched root a lot, and this dude posted it in every forum essentially. It does not work, its a fake program. It was made in VB.net or C#, it claims to s-off phones like the HTC one, he didn't make it, there is no source to track it back to an author, it claims to s-off the HTC One X, when the only method is the one made by beaups and jcase. The list goes on.
Bottom line - it is a fake program and possibly a virus. Thread needs to be closed, as it has in almost every other XDA forum.
If you ran this program, I suggest scanning with anti-virus/malware scanners,
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
http://www.safer-networking.org/
http://www.superantispyware.com/
it may not be a virus, but it is a fake program, and virustotal picked up 2 possible threats. They may be false positives. But you should NEVER take a chance unless you know for 100000% it is in fact a false positive
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Yeah I posted it for popular phones it SHOULD work with. If you're going to hate on me for simply SHARING something I thought would do good, and apparently does NO BAD then I do apologize and I'll remove it. 2/34 Virus scanners pick it up as what looks like to me, personally, to be false positives. If I was going to try to infect people with someone, I wouldn't use my main account, I've donated more then "fake programs" while I've been here, including a lot of damn time on sometimes what ends up to be nothing.
So if you want to warn people about to program, please do, but don't involve me like I'm doing something intentionally to harm people. I ran it myself, I tried it, my phone was already rooted. It just hung on me for awhile. I could of posted it in every forum, but I didn't.
Just don't make me out to be a bad guy, mkay?
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Yeah I posted it for popular phones it SHOULD work with. If you're going to hate on me for simply SHARING something I thought would do good, and apparently does NO BAD then I do apologize and I'll remove it. 2/34 Virus scanners pick it up as what looks like to me, personally, to be false positives. If I was going to try to infect people with someone, I wouldn't use my main account, I've donated more then "fake programs" while I've been here, including a lot of damn time on sometimes what ends up to be nothing.
So if you want to warn people about to program, please do, but don't involve me like I'm doing something intentionally to harm people. I ran it myself, I tried it, my phone was already rooted. It just hung on me for awhile. I could of posted it in every forum, but I didn't.
Just don't make me out to be a bad guy, mkay?
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Okay
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jSterling said:
Yeah I posted it for popular phones it SHOULD work with. If you're going to hate on me for simply SHARING something I thought would do good, and apparently does NO BAD then I do apologize and I'll remove it. 2/34 Virus scanners pick it up as what looks like to me, personally, to be false positives. If I was going to try to infect people with someone, I wouldn't use my main account, I've donated more then "fake programs" while I've been here, including a lot of damn time on sometimes what ends up to be nothing.
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Cool story dude, really glad you're so sure of yourself. You know who's donated more then "fake programs" ... Grim.
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So if you want to warn people about to program, please do, but don't involve me like I'm doing something intentionally to harm people. I ran it myself, I tried it, my phone was already rooted. It just hung on me for awhile. I could of posted it in every forum, but I didn't.
Just don't make me out to be a bad guy, mkay?
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How about you stop being so goddam defensive about something potentially dangerous. You clearly have no idea what it does so before you get your feathers ruffled and get snippy with Grim how about you just relax there bub.. mmkay?
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I could of posted it in every forum, but I didn't.
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Define "every"
Lmao
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HTC Butterfly thread:
Quote by PG101:
Doesn't work.. I tried on the x920d (UB1).. while on, while in bootloader, while in fastboot.. doesn't work.. just sits there with message "looking for HTC Butterfly" for almost 20 mins, before I closed it.
Since I have tested it myself, I am going to close this thread, just incase someone tries something else and has a brick.
Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39081847#post39081847.
Clearly MALWARE. OP should be warned/banned imo.
I'll throw my opinion in as well.
That app will not s-off the international hox (endeavoru) because even the top devs haven't even found an exploit yet. Tripnraver has managed to brick one of his hox's for the cause
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galaxys2Tav said:
I'll throw my opinion in as well.
That app will not s-off the international hox (endeavoru) because even the top devs haven't even found an exploit yet. Tripnraver has managed to brick one of his hox's for the cause
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Exactly. The dual core one x just recently got s-off, but about 8 were bricked for the effort. I dissected the zip and the files/method to s-off the dual core one x don't exist. Also, the dual core one x could only be rooted through 2 very particular exploits. One was checking for an OTA and the other was through restoring a backup app of the dialer i believe and doing some other things
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Exactly. The dual core one x just recently got s-off, but about 8 were bricked for the effort. I dissected the zip and the files/method to s-off the dual core one x don't exist. Also, the dual core one x could only be rooted through 2 very particular exploits. One was checking for an OTA and the other was through restoring a backup app of the dialer i believe and doing some other things
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You know your stuff
beaups said:
You know your stuff
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No no no no.. you sir.. know your stuff
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ChongoDroid said:
No no no no.. you sir.. know your stuff
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Yep, because even he face palmed when it said s-off in the boot loader screen, as did we all. Lol
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So my dear friend from Chicago messages me and says do you know korea_chun on xda stole my work that I was working for on the vivid and took the Rom and used it as if it was his own..... And after a week of searching to contact chun I eventually wrote him today and here is what we were saying....
I've know this kid since I was about 5 so I believe his word
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The kanged venom Rom is the one we are talking about right.?
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The kanged venom Rom is the one we are talking about right.?
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Yeah but it was my friend, whos nick name is y2j was studying venoms coding and built the Rom from scratch but couldn't figure out ril and chin fixed it.... Y2j was making it to see if he could join team venom due to his hard work and chun stole it and changed alit to make it look like he created it
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24ky said:
Yeah but it was my friend, whos nick name is y2j was studying venoms coding and built the Rom from scratch but couldn't figure out ril and chin fixed it.... Y2j was making it to see if he could join team venom due to his hard work and chun stole it and changed alit to make it look like he created it
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Yea - that happens all the time. then they post it on the chinese forums where they don't have kanging rules and there's nothing anyone can do about it. sucks for your friend, but take a look on the chinese forum - you'll see 90% of the roms from here being passed off as someone else's work. since he didn't post it on xda, xda mods can't and won't do anything about it. fortunately this team venom code has fallen back into team venom's hands. I'd suggest your friend talk to them and try to plead his case as a reasonable, mature person. That's really all he can do.
This really pisses me off that this someone took the time to port a venom rom to our device ( which isn't very popular )and then chun steals our one chance of having a venom rom early and ruins y2j's chance of becoming a venom dev.
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Yea - that happens all the time. then they post it on the chinese forums where they don't have kanging rules and there's nothing anyone can do about it. sucks for your friend, but take a look on the chinese forum - you'll see 90% of the roms from here being passed off as someone else's work. since he didn't post it on xda, xda mods can't and won't do anything about it. fortunately this team venom code has fallen back into team venom's hands. I'd suggest your friend talk to them and try to plead his case as a reasonable, mature person. That's really all he can do.
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I'll suggest that to him
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I'll suggest that to him
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Thanks 24ky for doing this for me, I just decided to make a account to talk to a venom dev. and pm me, I need to know when you coming down again to Chicago..... But anyways chun really pee'd off, I had this phone about almost a year ago and I spent hours of studying venom coding to make a Sense 4 or 4.1 Rom for you guys and I started when raffyvitto couldn't get ril to work.... And I was going to present my work to Team Venom so I could bring people something good to the community ( but my wife got the iPhone and I liked it so I got one, but a year later I missed developing. ) I hear from 24ky that homeslice976 and wildchild have sense 4.1 roms out and I want my Rom that chun stole to be out, but I need a venom dev to contact me or vice versa.
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Thanks 24ky for doing this for me, I just decided to make a account to talk to a venom dev. and pm me, I need to know when you coming down again to Chicago..... But anyways chun really pee'd off, I had this phone about almost a year ago and I spent hours of studying venom coding to make a Sense 4 or 4.1 Rom for you guys and I started when raffyvitto couldn't get ril to work.... And I was going to present my work to Team Venom so I could bring people something good to the community ( but my wife got the iPhone and I liked it so I got one, but a year later I missed developing. ) I hear from 24ky that homeslice976 and wildchild have sense 4.1 roms out and I want my Rom that chun stole to be out, but I need a venom dev to contact me or vice versa.
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No problem, I pmed you by the way. And I hope I or someone can get a venom dev get ahold of you. They deserved a venom Rom, if it wasn't for Sportsstar89, homeslice976, or Wildchild, this community would be dead.
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Its pointless anyway, wildchild or bish (whichever name he goes by on a particular forum) is a venom dev and the only one who will be able to release a vivid venom rom
So it doesn't matter who did what or when as it relates to venom stuff cuz its not gonna be allowed on xda unless its from us
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Its pointless anyway, wildchild or bish (whichever name he goes by on a particular forum) is a venom dev and the only one who will be able to release a vivid venom rom
So it doesn't matter who did what or when as it relates to venom stuff cuz its not gonna be allowed on xda unless its from us
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I honestly don't see why not. If ide supply the rom or you Venom members let me release it. Because for anyone who has ran my rom. ( the one chun decided to take credit for ) it is by far the best/stable rom yet, Its ready for full release, no beta testing needed, has everything a venom rom has. And wildchild blocks all u.s up addresses from his forum anyways and prolly never be released on xda.
Y2j - I understand where you're coming from.. but bottom line is it is team venoms code to do with as they please. Wildchild has non us IPs blocked for the same reason you're upset now (not to mention all the spammers from foreign IPs). Unfortunately that's what it had to come to. I understand the amount of work that you may have had in it, and I feel for you. At the same time, your intentions probably should have been made to team venom before starting the project.
Nitsuj has stated what will happen a few times in the forum..
I am curious why none of this came up months ago when the build originally popped up?
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I'm not attacking team venom here or nothing. Just Curious, does team venom coding have a licence. I know they have a sharing policy "that no one can use there files unless it was made for the rom.... But if someone spent hours on the rom and ported venom coding its theirs... And just because codes could match up to your 100% doeant mean they copied you, just means they are as good as you. So it wouldt besidered kanging if he change all venom files in it. Meaning changed the name where ever it says venom.....
P.s. another thing on the coding, just because he studied your coding, and makes thing operate just like your doeant mean he stole, venom work, files, or frameworks.
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I mean I'm not p*ssed or anything just upset because I worked my num nums off on it. Lol. If Venom devs were nice ide release it, but they won't let 2 devs have 2 seperate roms.... I mean my rom even has jellybean features on ics. And 24ky I agree with you there
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And if I the codes are not in use then the coding lines are just useless space, and yeah I studied your coding but all coding is different between each device and OS. Meaning if I remove the files to make the tweaks active, then its a stock costomized rom. With the chance for people that decide to add venom tweaks app. So there for I wouldn't be premoting a venom rom, just a potentially a venom rom for those who chose to install the correct tweak app.
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I'm not attacking team venom here or nothing. Just Curious, does team venom coding have a licence. I know they have a sharing policy "that no one can use there files unless it was made for the rom.... But if someone spent hours on the rom and ported venom coding its theirs... And just because codes could match up to your 100% doeant mean they copied you, just means they are as good as you. So it wouldt besidered kanging if he change all venom files in it. Meaning changed the name where ever it says venom.....
P.s. another thing on the coding, just because he studied your coding, and makes thing operate just like your doeant mean he stole, venom work, files, or frameworks.
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Xda supports our position on non sharing as much of the code is written by members of our team specifically monarx
No one told you to spend your time porting our work
We can allow device support to devices we choose and work with devs we want to work with
Not a hard concept to understand....write your own code without using our teams work and there is no problem
Removing tweaks but leaving our framework mods that are controlled by it is still kanging
Do it and we ll report it and get it shutdown
You really have a lot of learning to do if this is your entrance to the community
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Xda supports our position on non sharing as much of the code is written by members of our team specifically monarx
No one told you to spend your time porting our work
We can allow device support to devices we choose and work with devs we want to work with
Not a hard concept to understand....write your own code without using our teams work and there is no problem
Removing tweaks but leaving our framework mods that are controlled by it is still kanging
Do it and we ll report it and get it shutdown
You really have a lot of learning to do if this is your entrance to the community
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Yeah they may support that but you should let some of us unrecognized developers have a chance on your teams, this way more devices could be supported. Not all noobies are ret*rds like you think. Some of us are really good at things that some devs are not.
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And ill delete framework and apps, then there will be no complaints.
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I am curious why none of this came up months ago when the build originally popped up?
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It didn't come up because I didn't have the phone and wasn't aware chun was using it publicly. And 24ky didn't know till this week. That I had been the one who created the viper rom
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Yeah they may support that but you should let some of us unrecognized developers have a chance on your teams, this way more devices could be supported. Not all noobies are ret*rds like you think. Some of us are really good at things that some devs are not.
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And ill delete framework and apps, then there will be no complaints.
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It didn't come up because I didn't have the phone and wasn't aware chun was using it publicly. And 24ky didn't know till this week. That I had been the one who created the viper rom
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If you want to be respected by developers don't act entitled to things that aren't yours, and earn it by starting small
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If you want to be respected by developers don't act entitled to things that aren't yours, and earn it by starting small
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And nits I was attacking you or any venom member I was just saying what I think and I will not break those rules and get banned
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And nits I was attacking you or any venom member I was just saying what I think and I will not break those rules and get banned
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You were making a bizarre statement that if some takes the time to copy our code changes than the work becomes theirs, which makes no sense
People can write similar mods without copying (see lyapotas modpack for the one x)
But when someone else's work is kanged/copied its theft, not someone being as "smart" as the creator
Nothing related to modifying sense files is gpl, no requirement to share or post source of changes
Now obviously we can't prevent people from doing whatever with our work outside of sites like xda and rootzwiki which respect developers rights to exclusivity....on crap sites like droidevs or just about any Chinese forum you can post stolen work all you want
However we do actively check rom releases for kanging here on xda when someone clues us in or if we notice something that seems stolen...and hiding tweak calls or renaming methods doesn't work, as anyone with rudimentary understanding of smali and java code can spot what's what
Please let this thread die, and work on your own projects...we all know chun is a thief anyway
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You were making a bizarre statement that if some takes the time to copy our code changes than the work becomes theirs, which makes no sense
People can write similar mods without copying (see lyapotas modpack for the one x)
But when someone else's work is kanged/copied its theft, not someone being as "smart" as the creator
Nothing related to modifying sense files is gpl, no requirement to share or post source of changes
Now obviously we can't prevent people from doing whatever with our work outside of sites like xda and rootzwiki which respect developers rights to exclusivity....on crap sites like droidevs or just about any Chinese forum you can post stolen work all you want
However we do actively check rom releases for kanging here on xda when someone clues us in or if we notice something that seems stolen...and hiding tweak calls or renaming methods doesn't work, as anyone with rudimentary understanding of smali and java code can spot what's what
Please let this thread die, and work on your own projects...we all know chun is a thief anyway
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Oh I'm letting this go because I'm not that worried about it neither is 24ky, just we both had opinions and we said them. It's just a rom that I made it wasn't really that hard, just time consumimg. but it was just disappointing that there's nothing I can do about it. I should of presented my work before doing so. It's all good now. I'll just sit back and watch how stable sense 4.1 roms will get.... I am supprised that no one can make sense 4+ though.
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Oh I'm letting this go because I'm not that worried about it neither is 24ky, just we both had opinions and we said them. It's just a rom that I made it wasn't really that hard, just time consumimg. but it was just disappointing that there's nothing I can do about it. I should of presented my work before doing so. It's all good now. I'll just sit back and watch how stable sense 4.1 roms will get.... I am supprised that no one can make sense 4+ though.
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That sucks that all that happened without you knowing until recently. But if you want to gain major credit you could be the first to release a full sense 4+ rom. I'm not saying that would be easy, but that would give you plenty of credit. Then from there you could possibly discuss with Venom about making a Venom Sense 4+ rom for the Vivid if you are looking to partner up with a team. I could be wrong, but as of this point it does not appear there is any current work being done on bringing Sense 4+ and JB to the Vivid (with the exception of AOSP).
OUR DEVELOPER GOT FIRST DONATIONS
Hi community. Bad news our device is high outdated from nvidia,but i know ho have expiriance to fix it @Ziyan . He hellp me a lot to learn more about andorid. He ported new kernel to galaxy nexus and to acer iconia with is more interest to us, he full update kernel to 3.1 nvidia soruces and got half working 3.4 kernel. his 3.1 kernel link his 3.4 kernel link!!. It will be nice to he become one more developer to our community. It will ok to donate used tablet or some litle chash, i didnt tell you must donte, i just want everyboy who cant and want to donate and i think that is ok. i read rulez but i didnt find are it ok to make some theard like this i sent pm to mike if he say its not ok i will remove it. have nice day.
paypall email for donte to our developer: [email protected] you can also find it under his profile
Cherrs :highfive::highfive::good::good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
ps i forgot to say:
me and @HTCDreamOn done some proggres on porting new kernel but we realy need help from Ziyan.
Our progres
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n1kolaa said:
Hi my name is Nikola i senior developer around here, learned a lot of stuff about real developing i tryed to port never 3.1 kernel for my grouper but i faild. I know someone who ported it allready to other tegra 3 tablet. I want to make donation theard for him, i allready asked him and hi say is ok but i want to know are it againt rolez? :highfive:
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Hi
Well we do allow "Bounty" threads but they need to be clear and have specific goals:
The developer needs to be made aware, approve of the action, and post in the thread
In the same post as above, the developer should detail his intentions once the device/software/product/etc is obtained, and if possible a rough timeline.
The developer should have at least one or two major contributions to the community under his belt before any large donation thread is made,
There should be a clear statement from the developer and/or the thread starter that there is absolutely NO obligation on the developers part to release a final product.
Mike
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@MikeChannon i think i said all what is needed
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He got a lot big contributions: NEW GPU FOR G NEXUS-witout that galaxy nexus wont able to boot from 4.4+
Ported 3.4 to other tegra3 device
Almost no developer left on community, we will refresh things.
He is here to help us proting new 3.1 and to bringup 3.4
I'd be glad to help you guys, if I can get my hands on this device if someone could send me a spare one, that would be awesome (or I could buy one for about $100 locally).
My plans would be:
- bring up grouper's kernel to nv-3.1 (like I did on the Galaxy Nexus, with omap-3.0)
- become your CM maintainer, as I see it's not really maintained
- try to get 3.4 working
Proof of my previous work...
nv-3.1 kernel
nv-3.4 kernel
I'm their omni maintainer
Unfortunately, I no longer have access to that device (never had, used my father's one to mess with it, it was fun!), so I can't work on Tegra 3...
My Galaxy Nexus work: 1, 2 (first rom with the new shiny kernel + gpu driver), 3, 4 (I'm our CM maintainer), 5, 6...
nice so noone is interest as i can see -.-
I think not lot of people watch in general thread try posting in original development.
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I think not lot of people watch in general thread try posting in original development.
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Agreed, this needs to be in the development threads, bolded and stickied to the top with neon signs flashing around it. Lol
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19dragon98 said:
I think not lot of people watch in general thread try posting in original development.
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I agree with you.....
Okay back to the topic, only if some here knows how to UART on Nexus 7, we can debug kernel 3.4. UART required for porting/debugging Kernel 3.4 thou....
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mrchezco1995 said:
I agree with you.....
Okay back to the topic, only if some here knows how to UART on Nexus 7, we can debug kernel 3.4. UART required for porting/debugging Kernel 3.4 thou....
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He have uart and he know who to use it.
Its stupid to post it in original developing and against rulez
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Okay back to the topic, only if some here knows how to UART on Nexus 7, we can debug kernel 3.4. UART required for porting/debugging Kernel 3.4 thou....
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I could try, as I have all the equipment needed for it (I'm using it on another device). Although I was able to get USB working without an UART cable on the A510/A700, since not much changed USB-wise between 3.1 and 3.4 /)
I have received an $5 donation for grouper. If I reach about $50, I may be able to buy one from eBay, or some bad condition one locally or I could give it to the one who offers me a spare one.
As i can see nobody care about this or eaven this tablet. Im stating new KANG project next weakend.
I just received another $30, now I can almost buy one of these so I'll watch out for a good offer and buy it if I find one
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I just received another $30, now I can almost buy one of these so I'll watch out for a good offer and buy it if I find one
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I just sent you 10€ (round about 11,35$). I'd really love to see this kernel fully ported on my good old grouper, so I can use it for at least one more year [emoji6] [emoji106] So if I'm right you almost have 50$. I hope that's enough [emoji16]
BIG thanks to anone ho helped. :good::highfive::highfive:
Thanks to all of you, my N7 just arrived. Now I just need some time to mess with nv-3.1
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Thanks to all of you, my N7 just arrived. Now I just need some time to mess with nv-3.1
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Good luck all for the kernel project.
I know @Ziyan from the galaxy nexus threads and his amazing work he bought to us there.
Fantastic to see you here helping out to bring another "old" device back to some more life.
I just bought a grouper in nearly new conditions from eBay Kleinanzeigen for 70€ including a case. Now I am following your work here on grouper forum.
May this kernel work w/ tilapia?
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Thanks to all of you, my N7 just arrived. Now I just need some time to mess with nv-3.1
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Wow! Good luck bro! /)