I'm trying to get Straight Talk working with this Bionic. Could someone help?
Not sure but...
I used to be a Verizon Wireless agent (Straight Talk piggy backs on their network.) If I remember right straight talk/net10/verizon's own prepaid phones are limited to 3G devices only. Policies may have changed, or I could potentially be wrong but I am going to guess that you won't be able to get it working on their network because they won't be able to issue you a compatible SIM
You have to edit the build.prop and create a local.prop (it probably doesn't exist). I recently put SlimKat 4.4.4 on my friend's Bionic, and got it working well with Straight Talk (Voice, MMS, Data, etc). Just edit build.prop with:
persist.radio.ap.phonetype=1
ro.mot.phonemode.vzw4gphone=0
ro.mot.phonemode.vzwglobalphone=1
ro.telephony.default_network=3
ro.telephony.gsm-routes-us-smsc=0
telephony.lteOnCdmaDevice=0
Create a local.prop file and add:
ro.telephony.ril.v3=signalstrength
Move this into /data/
Next, go into system/etc/ and get your apns-conf.xml file and delete all the entries you don't need, keeping only the one relevant to Straight Talk. In my friend's case:
Code:
<apns version="7">
<apn carrier="StraightTalk ATT" mcc="310" mnc="410" apn="tfdata" port="80" mmsc="http://mms-tf.net" mmsproxy="mms3.tracfone.com" mmsport="80" type="default,supl,mms,hipri" />
</apns>
For the novices, to do this last part, you'll need a file manager like ES that can utilize root permissions after enabling in settings.
After this, any 4.3 or 4.4 ROM should let you edit APN settings, etc. You may need to set your radio to GSM (auto PRL) by going into your dialer and hitting *#*#4636#*#* and going into Phone Information then down to network type or whatever. I don't have a Motorola phone in front of me If that doesn't work, I've noticed GSM/WCDMA (auto PRL) works for some.
Good luck
Edit: I forgot one crucial thing you must do. You have to use RadioComm to enable GSM/UMTS bands. You can find it with Google. The version I used is 11.12.2. You'll either have a green or purple light on the right side, signifying that your phone is connected. It should show up in the status bar too. Steps:
Ensure you have correct Motorola drivers and that device shows up in device manager (You may need to use Google USB driver, as this has worked with some Motorola phones for me)
Ensure that USB is in PC Tools mode
In Radiocomm go to MA->COMMON->MDM 6x00
Go to the FTM Common1 tab, and wait for purple or green light on side
Toward the top of NVAccess you'll see a select box. Scroll to NV item 1877 NV_RF_BC_CONFIG_I
Click on read value
Once read, replace the first 8 bytes with: 8703E80400000200 (back up original as a .txt file or something)
Write the new value to the device and reboot
There's also a flashable zip that does this, but I've not tested it. Use at your own risk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1048524&d=1336485537
All of the information I presented is from others, but I can't remember all the threads I got this from. I take no responsibility for any bricked phones or the like.
shadolis said:
You have to edit the build.prop and create a local.prop (it probably doesn't exist). I recently put SlimKat 4.4.4 on my friend's Bionic, and got it working well with Straight Talk (Voice, MMS, Data, etc). Just edit build.prop with:
persist.radio.ap.phonetype=1
ro.mot.phonemode.vzw4gphone=0
ro.mot.phonemode.vzwglobalphone=1
ro.telephony.default_network=3
ro.telephony.gsm-routes-us-smsc=0
telephony.lteOnCdmaDevice=0
Create a local.prop file and add:
ro.telephony.ril.v3=signalstrength
Move this into /data/
Next, go into system/etc/ and get your apns-conf.xml file and delete all the entries you don't need, keeping only the one relevant to Straight Talk. In my friend's case:
Code:
<apns version="7">
<apn carrier="StraightTalk ATT" mcc="310" mnc="410" apn="tfdata" port="80" mmsc="http://mms-tf.net" mmsproxy="mms3.tracfone.com" mmsport="80" type="default,supl,mms,hipri" />
</apns>
For the novices, to do this last part, you'll need a file manager like ES that can utilize root permissions after enabling in settings.
After this, any 4.3 or 4.4 ROM should let you edit APN settings, etc. You may need to set your radio to GSM (auto PRL) by going into your dialer and hitting *#*#4636#*#* and going into Phone Information then down to network type or whatever. I don't have a Motorola phone in front of me If that doesn't work, I've noticed GSM/WCDMA (auto PRL) works for some.
Good luck
Edit: I forgot one crucial thing you must do. You have to use RadioComm to enable GSM/UMTS bands. You can find it with Google. The version I used is 11.12.2. You'll either have a green or purple light on the right side, signifying that your phone is connected. It should show up in the status bar too. Steps:
Ensure you have correct Motorola drivers and that device shows up in device manager (You may need to use Google USB driver, as this has worked with some Motorola phones for me)
Ensure that USB is in PC Tools mode
In Radiocomm go to MA->COMMON->MDM 6x00
Go to the FTM Common1 tab, and wait for purple or green light on side
Toward the top of NVAccess you'll see a select box. Scroll to NV item 1877 NV_RF_BC_CONFIG_I
Click on read value
Once read, replace the first 8 bytes with: 8703E80400000200 (back up original as a .txt file or something)
Write the new value to the device and reboot
There's also a flashable zip that does this, but I've not tested it. Use at your own risk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1048524&d=1336485537
All of the information I presented is from others, but I can't remember all the threads I got this from. I take no responsibility for any bricked phones or the like.
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I'm not sure what the deal is - I'm trying to do the same thing, but with T-Mobile US rather than Straight Talk... Should work fine, but when I make the above changes, I get com.android.phone stopped working over and over. If I follow every step above, but instead of "ro.telephony.default_network=3", I use "ro.telephony.default_network=7", it works fine, I can make calls on T-Mobile, but the signal strength is horrible. I can be where I normally have full 2G/3G signal, and the Bionic barely has one bar if anything. Most of the time it just says "No Service" unless I step outside, whereas my other T-mobile specific phones have no problems with the signal anywhere in my house.
What might I be doing wrong here? I just bought the Bionic as a backup as I've been told it works fine with GSM when you do the above tweaks, but I'm finding it's real-world operability on GSM to be less than stellar.
gully52 said:
I'm not sure what the deal is - I'm trying to do the same thing, but with T-Mobile US rather than Straight Talk... Should work fine, but when I make the above changes, I get com.android.phone stopped working over and over. If I follow every step above, but instead of "ro.telephony.default_network=3", I use "ro.telephony.default_network=7", it works fine, I can make calls on T-Mobile, but the signal strength is horrible. I can be where I normally have full 2G/3G signal, and the Bionic barely has one bar if anything. Most of the time it just says "No Service" unless I step outside, whereas my other T-mobile specific phones have no problems with the signal anywhere in my house.
What might I be doing wrong here? I just bought the Bionic as a backup as I've been told it works fine with GSM when you do the above tweaks, but I'm finding it's real-world operability on GSM to be less than stellar.
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What rom are you using? I've used this technique on a ridiculous number of bionic roms to make them GSM so hopefully I can help, it's worth noting that I do not create a localprop. I found that most roms have the "ro.telephony.ril.v3" line in the default.prop and I can simply amend them by adding "signalstrength," (note the comma to include the end of the quotes) at the beginning of the entry. You might try wiping the rom and starting over but skip the step changing the radio with the *#*#4636#*#* part
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shadolis said:
For the novices, to do this last part, you'll need a file manager like ES that can utilize root permissions after enabling in settings.
After this, any 4.3 or 4.4 ROM should let you edit APN settings, etc. You may need to set your radio to GSM (auto PRL) by going into your dialer and hitting *#*#4636#*#* and going into Phone Information then down to network type or whatever. I don't have a Motorola phone in front of me If that doesn't work, I've noticed GSM/WCDMA (auto PRL) works for some.
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The settings adjusted in the default.prop permit that you do not need to change the radio. since i started using these particular settings, I've never had to change it and additionally found it to be commonly problematic. I also found that MOST roms do not need you to add the straight talk APN. Cyanogen and Paranoid, I know for fact include them. When you boot the phone for the first time you'll need to go into the settings and select the appropriate Straight Talk APN (mine is the MVNO one).
HW-A vs. HW-C
Plasmaleto said:
What rom are you using? I've used this technique on a ridiculous number of bionic roms to make them GSM so hopefully I can help, it's worth noting that I do not create a localprop. I found that most roms have the "ro.telephony.ril.v3" line in the default.prop and I can simply amend them by adding "signalstrength," (note the comma to include the end of the quotes) at the beginning of the entry. You might try wiping the rom and starting over but skip the step changing the radio with the *#*#4636#*#* part.
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I've tried with stock JB, as well as CM11 M11 in Slot 1. I've wiped and started over more times than I can count.
What do you mean that you add "signalstrength," at the beginning of the ro.telephony.ril.v3 entry? It's my understanding that the entry should be "ro.telephony.ril.v3=signalstrength". I don't understand what you mean by putting signalstrength at the beginning of the entry. Also, what's up with that comma?
Then again, all my difficulties could be in the fact that I have a "HW C" Bionic. Just got a "HW A" model, and will be tinkering with that soon too. It actually came with original Stock 5.5.886 Gingerbread ROM... Right now, I plan on upgrading to the 232 ICS leak (so I can go back to GB if needed), and see if I can get GSM working on it a little better.
How would you recommend I proceed with a bone stock ICS 6.7.232 ROM?
Thanks a BUNCH for your reply on this old (but fun to tinker with) phone!
Brian
gully52 said:
I've tried with stock JB, as well as CM11 M11 in Slot 1. I've wiped and started over more times than I can count.
What do you mean that you add "signalstrength," at the beginning of the ro.telephony.ril.v3 entry? It's my understanding that the entry should be "ro.telephony.ril.v3=signalstrength". I don't understand what you mean by putting signalstrength at the beginning of the entry. Also, what's up with that comma?
Then again, all my difficulties could be in the fact that I have a "HW C" Bionic. Just got a "HW A" model, and will be tinkering with that soon too. It actually came with original Stock 5.5.886 Gingerbread ROM... Right now, I plan on upgrading to the 232 ICS leak (so I can go back to GB if needed), and see if I can get GSM working on it a little better.
How would you recommend I proceed with a bone stock ICS 6.7.232 ROM?
Thanks a BUNCH for your reply on this old (but fun to tinker with) phone!
Brian
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Ahhhh yes, i believe you found the root of the issue. The method that was used for Ginger Bread was slightly different which almost certainly why the above may not be working for you. I practically forgot about that, I upgraded mine years ago. I've grown so fond of the bionic I'm on my third you can buy them second hand for like $50 to $100. So i Just keep fixing/repairing them haha.
I'm gonna dig through some old book marks and tutorials and find out how I upgraded mine originally and I'll post them up here for you. The timing of this coming up is almost bizarre. I'm actually in the middle of working on a website that lets you point it at a rom, it downloads it, modifies it for GSM, then provides you a link to download it. I'd actually like to make it an Android app because when I download rom updates, I have to make them GSM compatible first.
Plasmaleto said:
Ahhhh yes, i believe you found the root of the issue. The method that was used for Ginger Bread was slightly different which almost certainly why the above may not be working for you.
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As I mentioned above, I just received the phone that's still running Gingerbread on Rev. A Hardware. Haven't even tried to start messing with that phone yet.
The original phone I was having trouble with, prompting the post to this thread, was running stock Jelly Bean on Rev. C hardware.
You say you're on your 3rd Bionic because you like them so much! They are a rugged and capable phone, for sure. What carrier have you been using it with? I've been attempting plain old T-Mobile, but assume making it work for Straight Talk would make it work for T-Mobile as well, aside from APN settings.
How's your signal strength on your bionic compared to an official GSM phone, both for calls and data?
gully52 said:
As I mentioned above, I just received the phone that's still running Gingerbread on Rev. A Hardware. Haven't even tried to start messing with that phone yet.
The original phone I was having trouble with, prompting the post to this thread, was running stock Jelly Bean on Rev. C hardware.
You say you're on your 3rd Bionic because you like them so much! They are a rugged and capable phone, for sure. What carrier have you been using it with? I've been attempting plain old T-Mobile, but assume making it work for Straight Talk would make it work for T-Mobile as well, aside from APN settings.
How's your signal strength on your bionic compared to an official GSM phone, both for calls and data?
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The #1 reason I continue using bionics is because of how cheap parts are if I need them (like when I drop them and break the screen ) and accessories. Like I have several docks that I've bought for like $7 a piece (retail was like ridiculous $40 or something but just for a dock $7 is dirt cheap). I even got the lapdock that I picked up on ebay for $50. You can't beat it. That thing is awesome. Add to it that you can get a micro HDMI to HDMI cable, hook this thing up to a TV and use it as an entertainment player sorta like a roku and it just keeps getting better. You can then use another android device and run AllCast to turn it into a chromecast wannabe. I've just found endless fun, with this particular model of android.
I personally utilize Straight Talk. No BS, $45 every month, no surprises. Love it. As far as GSM signal goes, it's like any other GSM phone!
gully52 said:
As I mentioned above, I just received the phone that's still running Gingerbread on Rev. A Hardware. Haven't even tried to start messing with that phone yet.
The original phone I was having trouble with, prompting the post to this thread, was running stock Jelly Bean on Rev. C hardware.
You say you're on your 3rd Bionic because you like them so much! They are a rugged and capable phone, for sure. What carrier have you been using it with? I've been attempting plain old T-Mobile, but assume making it work for Straight Talk would make it work for T-Mobile as well, aside from APN settings.
How's your signal strength on your bionic compared to an official GSM phone, both for calls and data?
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So here's what I would do
1) Update to Jelly Bean (you can do this with official Motorola OTA updates or more info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2235946)
2) Power on phone and edit the hex values with Radiocomm see: post 29/30 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714&page=3
- - Be PARTICULARLY picky about this part, I found this to be extraordinarily difficult time and time again. Even though I've done it at least 5 or 6 times, I felt like it never went exactly as it should. After changing the value, you might even disconnect, reconnect, and make sure the hex value has changed.
3) Root the phone (this guide seems a little indepth but it works very well once you get it down compared to other methods http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256439)
4) At this point you have a choice of either modifying stock rom or use custom ROMS. I HIGHLY recommend custom ROMS, the stock ROM is highly bloated. I have found that AOSP based ROMS like Cyanogen or Paranoid (personal recommendation), work considerably better in general in addition to being more suited for GSM usage.
Should you choose custom roms then here's what I would do next, I have found this is the easiest way to consistently use GSM:
a) You'll want to install SafeStrap or something similar (I've only got experience with SafeStrap personally and understand the developer has suspended his project from future updates but still works for me) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391875
b) Once you have that, you can download almost any ROM, extract it to a folder, change the build.prop with the proper GSM configuration you listed, find the line for "ro.telephony.ril.v3" inside build.prop and add "signalstrength," (including punctuation) immediately after the equal sign. Don't bother with local.prop.
c) Re-zip it just like it was before, then install the ROM in a SafeStrap slot (probably want to add GApps)
d) Once it's booted, you can connect to wifi to setup the Google Acct and whatnot, then (this part varies slightly depending on the rom but AOSP roms are all pretty similar) go into the Settings: Mobile Networks: Access Point Names: Select the carrier of your choice (there's literally hundreds preloaded)
Lot of detail but a lot of specifics left out, if I can expound on anything please let me know which areas are too vague.
UPDATE: Here's the ROM I'm currently using. I literally install this thing with safe strap along with the pa gapps modular micro and just use it. No editing files, no thing. Just use it.
Paranoid Android Legacy Original - http://get.aospa.co/legacy/targa
Paranoid Android Legacy GSM Ready - http://dailen.bitnamiapp.com/roms/pa_targa-4.6-BETA5-20141022.GSM.zip
PA Gapps Modular Micro - https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=15801
Above and Beyond
Plasmaleto said:
Here's the ROM I'm currently using. I literally install this thing with safe strap along with the pa gapps modular micro and just use it. No editing files, no thing. Just use it.
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Wow! This is above and beyond! Truly thankful for this guide. I'm fairly familiar with ROMs in general and putting Safestrap on the Bionic... but the fact that you hand-edited the PA ROM and provided a link... I deserve not such service!
Will attempt a flash tonight and let you know. Still plan to keep stock 232 ICS leak, since it will never get used once PA is installed! Will reply tomorrow if I get everything working!
Thanks again!
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Plasmaleto said:
a) You'll want to install SafeStrap or something similar (I've only got experience with SafeStrap personally and understand the developer has suspended his project from future updates but still works for me)
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What version of Safestrap are you running? I installed 3.73, and once installed, my stock ICS 232 gets stuck on the boot animation forever. FXZ back to 905 and then update to 232 to get back into ICS...
I dunno, maybe I'm making a big deal out of wanting to keep the path back to gingerbread. I should probably just bite the bullet and go up to stock JB first as you mentioned...
gully52 said:
Wow! This is above and beyond! Truly thankful for this guide. I'm fairly familiar with ROMs in general and putting Safestrap on the Bionic... but the fact that you hand-edited the PA ROM and provided a link... I deserve not such service!
Will attempt a flash tonight and let you know. Still plan to keep stock 232 ICS leak, since it will never get used once PA is installed! Will reply tomorrow if I get everything working!
Thanks again!
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What version of Safestrap are you running? I installed 3.73, and once installed, my stock ICS 232 gets stuck on the boot animation forever. FXZ back to 905 and then update to 232 to get back into ICS...
I dunno, maybe I'm making a big deal out of wanting to keep the path back to gingerbread. I should probably just bite the bullet and go up to stock JB first as you mentioned...
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For some reason I distinctly remember their being a link between the stock rom, and those installed in rom slots. I'm currently using 3.7.2. I also THINK I recall that a while back when I wanted to use SafeStrap 3.5 I only could do so if I upgrade to JB. I can't find any documentation to back these up so take it with a grain of salt. Personally, I'm one who upgrades and never looks back so maybe I'm just biased haha
(P.S. your eyes do not deceive you, my username changed from Plasmaleto to Dailen, special request made to XDA webmasters!)
I've made a tool to convert Bionic ROMS to GSM ready if anyone would like to give it a shot I'm likely to move or relocate this at some point btw
http://dailen.bitnamiapp.com/roms/convert.php
Relocated:
http://dailen.net/roms/convert.php
Dailen said:
For some reason I distinctly remember their being a link between the stock rom, and those installed in rom slots. I'm currently using 3.7.2. I also THINK I recall that a while back when I wanted to use SafeStrap 3.5 I only could do so if I upgrade to JB. I can't find any documentation to back these up so take it with a grain of salt. Personally, I'm one who upgrades and never looks back so maybe I'm just biased haha
(P.S. your eyes do not deceive you, my username changed from Plasmaleto to Dailen, special request made to XDA webmasters!)
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Dailen (the artist formerly known as Plasmaleto),
I took the plunge and updated to stock JB, rooted, installed Safestrap 3.73, then installed your pre-GSM-configured version of Paranoid ROM. Rebooted, connected to wifi, got everything setup. Powered down, inserted my T-Mobile SIM card, and voila! Full HSPA signal! 5.01mb/sec download, 1.22mb/sec upload. Outgoing calls work! Incoming calls work! Data works! Super cool! Thanks again!
Congrats! Glad that worked for ya!
Dailen said:
I've made a tool to convert Bionic ROMS to GSM ready if anyone would like to give it a shot I'm likely to move or relocate this at some point btw
http://dailen.bitnamiapp.com/roms/convert.php
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Just trying your tool on the CM11 M11 release. Will let you know how it works. Do you know, if I came across some older ROMs... JB 4.2/4.3, would your tool work for them as well?
Also, since you're a Bionic nut, I don't suppose you have a version of CarbonROM sitting around from before they dropped support for the Bionic? I contacted them and was surprised to learn that they have absolutely ZERO archive of old version downloads.
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Just trying your tool on the CM11 M11 release. Will let you know how it works. Do you know, if I came across some older ROMs... JB 4.2/4.3, would your tool work for them as well?
Also, since you're a Bionic nut, I don't suppose you have a version of CarbonROM sitting around from before they dropped support for the Bionic? I contacted them and was surprised to learn that they have absolutely ZERO archive of old version downloads.
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Well in theory the answer is yes. The way my script works, it changes only what it finds. If you can send me a link to one of the roms you'd like to try I'd be happy to take a look at the build.prop and tell you for sure if anything is missing.
Also, I don't recall having the carbonrom sitting around anywhere but I see their github still has the source posted, I suppose I could always try compiling for you. I got a couple ubuntu systems running I could put to some good use. Might take a few days.
Give it a shot!
Going to give this a shot right now on a friends Bionic. Unfortunately have to wait a few days for the Straight Talk Sim card to arrive. I'll report back.
Think I screwed up!
Dailen said:
Congrats! Glad that worked for ya!
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I believe I have screwed up. I tried the radiocomm program last night and everything was green for me but I didn't write to the phone. I installed the pa_targa-4.6-BETA5-20141022.GSM.zip file, and the Gapps for that ROM. When I tried to go into Radiocomm again, it comes up red when I try to read (1877). Do I still need to do that or will the phone be good to go once I pop in an AT&T sim card? Thanks, Howie
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I believe I have screwed up. I tried the radiocomm program last night and everything was green for me but I didn't write to the phone. I installed the pa_targa-4.6-BETA5-20141022.GSM.zip file, and the Gapps for that ROM. When I tried to go into Radiocomm again, it comes up red when I try to read (1877). Do I still need to do that or will the phone be good to go once I pop in an AT&T sim card? Thanks, Howie
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Radiocomm is EXTREMELY particular and I swear it only works 3 out of 5 times. I seem to recall that when I did it, it wasn't "writing" the settings properly and I had to change the USB connection type. If my current setup is any indicator, it was set to "PST USB Driver". I also recall that one time I uninstalled the bionic drivers and reinstalled them and it started working.
It's probably worth mentioning that I would connect to your phone in Radiocomm while in the stock rom if possible. There's no telling if there's some quirky specific USB driver in the rom that Radiocomm depends on. When in doubt, try a different machine. Be sure to get the Bionic USB drivers working 100% (meaning no device errors in device manager) prior to doing the radiocomm stuff.
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what up yall! My ATT tilt died a few weeks ago (flex cable went bad, decided it was time to move on) so i got a G1 from my buddy that had a broken digitizer and LCD. ordered the parts online and got it put back together today. few questions though.... it seems that about the bottom 1/4 inch of my touch screen dosent respond....its brand new and the rest of it works fin...just the small strip that seems to not work. any ideas? also t mobile are assholes...i cant get them to unlock it but i will work on that one...im quite sure that answer is on here. Also...do i really need to get a data package or can i choose to keep my phone from constantly connecting and updating my gmail and other apps? thats the reason i continue to get HTC is because i think data plans are silly when everywhere in america has WiFI....i think thats all for now...and ive been a member on here for quite sometime but this android mess is totally different. lol. thank yall!
That 1/4" at the bottoms sounds like a bad digitizer. =/ *Most* likely not software. But you can check by flashing a new ROM and if its a software problem, the new ROM will override whatever was causing it not to work before.
You can get it unlocked for $20 from one of many unlocking websites, just google it. You can't get it free anywhere other than T-Mobile sorry to say.
You don't *need* a data package, I don't have one. There are applications that can disable your data connection except for when you need it (i.e. MMS). Or its a built-in widget with the Hero ROMs.
Unless you have a rooted ROM, you will be required to use your data to even use your phone for the first time as it requires you to sign in to your Google account, but doesn't give you the option to use WiFi. But honestly, I think this phone is crippled without a data connection even if you don't use it all the time, I'm currently waiting for my current plan to end to sign another 2-year contract with data. But its up to you, its certainly still usable with enough WiFi connection points.
darn....its not very fun to take apart...plus i have to wait even longer...im currently using an old school , non color green screen nokia probably digitizer and not some random flex cable along the lines? maybe the black one? i guess there wouldnt be any way to check without replacing. and im not real addicted to any apps or anything, just mainly want it as phone/organizer. im a studennt and have wi fi at the house and at school, and every bar i go to has wi fi so i think im covered =) just making sure i could regulate it so it dosent pull and jack my bill up. if i were to flash a new rom, wouldnt that unlock it....and can you still downgrade it to rc29 when you dont have a t mobile sim card....or rather is there any other way besides adp or should i just go ahead and learn how to use it...seems a bit intimidating to anything ive done on a WMo phone.
you can use apndroid to block data from being used accidentally
flashing a rom will not unlock the phone.
Yes you can downgrade to RC29 without a tmo card
mmmk. so rooting and flashing a HTC rom wouldnt do it? if im correct i either have to go through t-mobile or i have to pay like 20 bucks so i can use it with ATT?
ztch10 said:
mmmk. so rooting and flashing a HTC rom wouldnt do it? if im correct i either have to go through t-mobile or i have to pay like 20 bucks so i can use it with ATT?
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You are correct.
h.nocturna said:
Unless you have a rooted ROM, you will be required to use your data to even use your phone for the first time as it requires you to sign in to your Google account, but doesn't give you the option to use WiFi.
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I haven't tried it myself, but this thread tells you how to get around that.
note how that thread tells you to obtain root...
B-man007 said:
note how that thread tells you to obtain root...
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I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
Chahk said:
I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
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ah ok i figured he already found that or would.
sorry
You can root without data. Just activate wifi at RC29 when trying to sign in
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Rooted ROMs usually have an option to just skip signing into Google don't they? I know they have that for Hero for sure, but I was pretty sure they implemented that to all the cupcake/Donut ROMs too no?
Basically, you'll only need to use that with RC29. And if you do need to sign in and don't wanna use the work around, I would just go ahead and use the data, its only a few KB of info I think (I've never actually measured it, but I very small amounts on my bill even if I do use it to sign in, also using ATT btw).
h.nocturna said:
Rooted ROMs usually have an option to just skip signing into Google don't they? I know they have that for Hero for sure, but I was pretty sure they implemented that to all the cupcake/Donut ROMs too no?
Basically, you'll only need to use that with RC29. And if you do need to sign in and don't wanna use the work around, I would just go ahead and use the data, its only a few KB of info I think (I've never actually measured it, but I very small amounts on my bill even if I do use it to sign in, also using ATT btw).
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all ROM's based on adp (and most modded tmo) have the option to skip (at least im pretty sure)
He just wants to activate his phone without data, which would require him to get down to a root level rom (RC29)
after he logs in, he has the option to root or wait for the OTA update if he wants to stay stock
if he wants to try to use his data, he can try but it doesnt always work (it did for me at first, but not the next few times)
ok so update... believe it was a bad digitizer...sending it back monday for a replacement so a few more days without the new toy) I got it registered to my Gmail and everything, and im currently waiting on my unlock code, so that is squared away. now...new questions.....
1. can i not just uncheck the auto sync and all the other data options or do i have to run adp? to make sure it dosent stay connecting and updating my mail and apps?
2. what positives do i have with rooting/flashing? obviously most of you probably have gone that route, and i really enjoyed flashing with my Tilt and having the newest WinMo, but it was always at the cost of it either being buggy or somethings not working. i know this can be searched but i want the simple answer if yall dont mind
3. i also noticed that the only thing so far that dosent work, is the camera/camcorder. keep in mind i got this phone with a broken lcd/digi. so there may have been other problems but i couldnt tell untill the screen was replaced. could it be i put it back together and missed a cable/contact for the camera, or could it just be software related?
...for now i think thats all the problems i have stumbled across... Thanks you all you are making this very easy for a Android Newbie!
ztch10 said:
ok so update... believe it was a bad digitizer...sending it back monday for a replacement so a few more days without the new toy) I got it registered to my Gmail and everything, and im currently waiting on my unlock code, so that is squared away. now...new questions.....
1. can i not just uncheck the auto sync and all the other data options or do i have to run adp? to make sure it dosent stay connecting and updating my mail and apps?
2. what positives do i have with rooting/flashing? obviously most of you probably have gone that route, and i really enjoyed flashing with my Tilt and having the newest WinMo, but it was always at the cost of it either being buggy or somethings not working. i know this can be searched but i want the simple answer if yall dont mind
3. i also noticed that the only thing so far that dosent work, is the camera/camcorder. keep in mind i got this phone with a broken lcd/digi. so there may have been other problems but i couldnt tell untill the screen was replaced. could it be i put it back together and missed a cable/contact for the camera, or could it just be software related?
...for now i think thats all the problems i have stumbled across... Thanks you all you are making this very easy for a Android Newbie!
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1. That would stop just contacts, calendar, and gmail not all of the other apps that come with the phone
2. Rooting is definitely worth it, loving my hero rom
3. If your on RC29 there is no camcorder, but if not then it's definitely a hardware issue, when I was on stock everything worked fine
Just FYI: the unlock code is phone specific, so if your getting a replacement, the unlock code wont work on that one if the code you got was for the other.
1) If you want to disable data, download and run APNDroid. You can turn off autosync if you want but data will still be used.
2) Rooting has lots of advantages. Themes, faster updates (i.e youll get the latest android before its released OTA) more modifications, use of certain apps such as Ad-Free, etc. cooked android roms are more stable than winmo cooked roms, and you have the option between stable/experimental
3) if it was stock, its probably a hardware error
so could i potenitally not have any apps and not have a data pull problem? or it seems as though just rooting and flashing to hero (would you all go hero, or newer 1.6 stock rom, or custom 1.6?) and ill be taking it back apart to send the bad digitzer back, so ill check the ol camera out. still is stock T-mobile 1.5....no rc29 or anything....yet...
if you still have 1.5, you can use the 1 click root
im using hero right now, but i switch between hero and cyan using the switchrom script
the g1 on stock android will still use data even if you have everything disabled. the only way to completely disable it is by changing the apns, or by disabling mobile data on a hero rom
what was wrong with the camera? give a little more detail so we know if it really is a hardware or software problem
Quiccest way to get unlock code..just tellem you are goin to the uk or sum and you are in need of unlocking since u will be on there network for a while.. Usually that works!
Hi there,
There has been a lot of discussion about how to get the USA ATT version of the P925 Thrill4g up and running fully with 4g enabled and working.
I have upgraded my LG Thrill 4G from stock froyo direct from the AT&T store to Android Version: 2.3.5 with Baseband: L620_MODEM_SIC_01.1042.00 showing Model Number: LG-P925g with Kernel Version 2.6.35.7 and Build Number GRJ90. I assure you, I am too stupid to make any of this up, so if you are interested in reading the easily enough accomplished, very descriptive method, read on.
After many a try due to the numerous blind alley posts and dead links, here are my findings:
Ingredients: Tip: Download and extract these BEFORE following the process:
The flashing tool that I found here
The flashing tool fixes 1 & 2 that I found here
The driver that I had to use (attched) named "LGAndroidDriver_Ver_1.0_All.exe".zip
The rom/kdz that I found here
The program to root the rom that I found here
The cleanup program to remove the unwanted programs from the new rom that I found here
Fine Print:
1. Back Up Everything - This will wipe your phone, which isn't that big of a deal if your most important data is in the cloud with Google.
2. I created NOTHING. I just failed until I found exactly what works and could perform the tasks with relative ease, precision, and get reliable and predictable results. All the links and downloads here....please follow those links and give those people some love.
3. Yada Yada I take no responsibility if you roger your phone but good. I can help you, but I assure you, there are many other people here who are more experienced who would be happy to do that for you.
4. This post is intentionally verbose so that everyone can participate in unscrewing themselves from AT&T, please feel free to comment on your findings with this process.
5. Unless explicitly otherwise specified, run all programs as administrator, and, if you can, in XP SP2 compatibility mode.
(Relatively easy method): Read ALL instructions completely before proceeding.
A. Install Small Server And Modify It
I went here and followed the instructions - they are basic:
1. Download http://smallsrv.com/ - the latest version will do nicely
2. Install and Run program as an administrator (right click on program)
3. Go to Settings (right click on the top menu bar of the program)
4. Go to HTTP Settings
5. Change Port to 9002
6. Extract the Content of the zip file named "www.zip" into C:\shttps\www
7. Edit C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\host in notepad and add the following line:
127.0.0.1 csmg.lgmobile.com (click here for screenshots of all of this)
8. Save and close the file
B. Drivers, Parsers, and COM-Phone Connection
I followed the instructions here . Follow along!
1. Install Drivers (attached) and msxml.msi (found in the flashing tools you downloaded), then reboot your computer
2. Open Server Program, leave it running
3. Remove your phone battery
4. open your pc device manager (in control panel) and look at COM and PORT section
5. hold volume up button (only) and connect your mobile to pc through USB while pressing this button, and keep pressing until you see a new port has been added and installed in your COM and PORT section (about 15-20 sec), now you can release the button, be sure that port will stay apparent after releasing the button, or repeat this step (with longer press on volume up button)
6. At this point, you may/will need to point your COM/PORT (LGE MOBILE) to the newly install drivers (found at C:\Program Files\LG Electronics) so that the computer knows what device you just plugged in)
7. put your battery back and don't touch your phone again (edit: It took me a bit to get the COM/PORT to register, but when it does - LET GO OF THE VOLUME+ BUTTON. Alternatively you can, while holding the volume+ button, right click on the COM/PORT error you see and then start pointing the computer to the appropriate driver) Do not proceed until your computer recognizes the device. If you would like, you can map the PORT/COM to COM41 by clicking on ports, right click on the LGE USB, select properties, click on the tab port settings, click on advanced, change port to 41 and click ok
8. As an aside, you can also begin the flashing process below without completing the above steps by putting your device in debugging mode. That post is here but it did not work for me that way so I provided the instructions above for those of you who need a more certain method
C. Flash Phone
Open/unzip/extract the flashing tools to begin the flashing process with screenshots here
1. Install "B2CAppSetup.exe" and run LGMobile update - the ONLY error you should encounter is that LGMobile update can't find an internet connection. Good! The Server is working and LGMobile won't kill the update process.
2. Run as administrator "windows enabler.exe" and switch to the "ON" position( left click on icon in icon tray)
3. Your phone is already connected, so you need to Start "UpTestEX_mod2_marwin.exe", select and browse to your v20c KDZ file.
Set options emeregency, 3gQCT as pictured and press "NORMAL WEB UPGRADE TEST"
4. On the next screen, hit upgrade start
5. On the pop-up, hit clear registry, other country in the dropdown, and your language of choice (presumably english) and select ok.
6. The program will start the official LG Flasher - have a 5 minute coffee break.
D.Clean Up
Your phone is now flashed.
1. Hit exit on the LG Flasher and unplug your phone.
2. Press and hold the 3D button and the Volume- (down) button, and the power button until you feel a vibration
3. Once the wipe screen comes up, go ahead and clear out everything one at a time (the volume keys are up and down and the 3d key is enter)
4. After that, select the reboot phone option
5. Reinstall SIM card and External SD
6. Power phone on
7. Skip or exit all prompts
8. Set phone in debugging mode (settings/applications/development/debugging)
9. Connect phone to computer - device manager should still be open - make sure it picks up the COM/PORT - you don't have to hold down any buttons
E. Root phone
We're getting close - almost there!
1. You downloaded Megatron from here - open run.bat
2. It will root your phone for you (one of the easiest steps ever) by pressing enter.
3. The phone will restart many times. When run.bat is all finished, it will ask you to press enter to exit - do not remove phone due to the next step - just press enter and the window will go away
F. Clean Up
Clean up Rogers Bloat referenced from post here
1. In the Remove Roggers File folder, click run.bat and make your selections
2. I chose 1 and 3 and leave the APN alone
3. Then, press 4 to reboot your phone
4. Finally, disconnect phone from computer
G. Enable Data Connection
Set your APN to enable data connection (you should already see 4g, but you won't yet have data or MMS
1. On your phone, go to Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile Networks -> enable Data Enabled -> Access Point Names -> menu button -> New APN ->
2. Place these values in manually: excerpted from post here
Name: AT&T
APN: wap.cingular
Proxy: leave blank
Port: leave blank
Username:[email protected]
Password:CINGULAR1
Server: leave blank
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: wireless.cingular.com
MMS Port: 80
MCC:310
MNC:410
Leave the rest of the fields blank
APN Type: leave blank
3. Save and Select APN
4. Reboot Phone
---At this point, you should be all finished with a working Gingerbread AT&T Thrill4G getting 4G on your phone, receiving MMS, etc. so go ahead and set up your google account and finish that pot of coffee.
I believe the last method for 4g works to get data enabled, but not at 4g speeds ( or at least their h+ speeds)
There's a method to update/replace the flex provider.HTML, I'm still not 100% clear on how to change that so i stuck to the method you laid out and have had no problems.
Besides, i keep my antenna on 2g mode only to save battery life, I'm on wifi at home and at work so i hardly have a need for their faux g.
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Thank you! I had tried the modify flex.xml post and was met with force close errors. I experienced fauxG when I enabled flex as well. I know that it is different for everyone, so take this with a grain of salt, but my speeds were back to where they were out of the box when I followed this method. For me, that meant my speeds were doubled compared to when I used Flex.
As to the method to change flex.xml, I got a file explorer from the market specifically for rooted phones. Found the flex.xml file, edited the permissions and then edited the file per the post. Then I rebooted and lo and behold, it said 4g, but that was simply not the case in terms of the speeds I experienced.
The OP is a method for USA users that worked for me to get my full 4g working again. I also tested that with netspeed (i realize it is flawed, but that's what I use).
Let us know when you start missing calls and texts.
TylDurden said:
Let us know when you start missing calls and texts.
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How would you know if you missed a call or text?
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TylDurden said:
Let us know when you start missing calls and texts.
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Ghosting is not a known issue on v20c. Can you specify?
A lot of people are experiencing ghost calls on v20c and I'm willing to bet that those who think they aren't don't realize when they do. I tried everything and still got ghost calls and missed texts. My wife would call my office and ask why I'm not answering my cell phone.
Oh yes. Durden - I remember your post. You are referencing, I believe
this thread
or
here
The majority of the complaints tend to center around using roms that were not in some way stock. This puts your phone out in stock Rogers, which I can't find any explicit issues with. I haven't put that in there because what you do with your phone after you flash is isn't covered in the post. I'm describing the method and providing the links, as stated in the OP.
The other type of complaint is from people using some form of 21. The posts I link to also have downgrade explanations. While there are several complaints, there are many happy folks. Here as well.
Interesting, thanks for the guide. I'll give this a try in a few days.
No problem. I posted this in general so everyone could take a look. I posted my findings in the OP - let us know yours so we can edit the guide for readability if need be.
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The majority of the complaints tend to center around using roms that were not in some way stock. This puts your phone out in stock Rogers, which I can't find any explicit issues with. I haven't put that in there because what you do with your phone after you flash is isn't covered in the post. I'm describing the method and providing the links, as stated in the OP.
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I never rooted my phone or flashed anything but stock KDZs. No matter which one I tried I always got ghost calls. Most of the articles and public complaints come from others on stock GB especially since root for v20c has only been around for a week or so. This is a really good tutorial (albeit found a couple other places), it's what I did back when Rogers first released GB and I posted my own little tutorial. I honestly hope you guys don't miss any calls. I'm tempted to even try it again cause Froyo is slow as hell and freezes up on me a ton but at least I'm not missing any calls or texts. I would be very interested in hearing from all of you after several days. It seems like I went a couple weeks on Rogers GB before I realized how bad of an issue I was having.
BTW when you said "Hold Vol Down+3D+Power to get the recovery menu and wipe everything one by one" did you mean all of these?
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
wipe cache partition and package recovery
clear nv dynamic partition
I have been running v20c for almost two weeks and can assure you I am not getting any ghosting. How do I know? I use youmail, and get e-mails when I miss calls and/or get voicemails. All the missed calls I see in youmail are also on my phone as missed calls-usually happening while I am asleep. Seems pretty solid. As for my APN, I only set mine up for data as I could care less about MMS. My APN setup is
Name-ATT HSDPA
APN-phone
The rest are left blank.
Speedtest.net app confirms my data speeds run comparable to my SGS2 Skyrocket speeds (to be fair, I live in an area with 3G, and no HSDPA or 4G LTE as of yet). So all in all, I am very pleased with the Rogers v20c on my AT&T LG Thrill. Lord knows AT&T is never going to get around to releasing an official GB for it. As far as official releases go, you are probably more likely to see ICS before GB. Although, both are probably just pipe dreams. Thank goodness for XDA devs.
I use youmail too. Sometimes the person calling me got my voicemail. Sometimes they got "the subscriber you are calling is unavailable"
Thanks for this writeup, I followed it to flash over the Rogers gingerbread from the European open one. The only thing I did different is use drivers from Adixtra's writeup for the KDZ, for some reason the ones you provided wouldn't recognize the phone correctly. All I can say is wow, I totally forgot how nice it is to have the 850 MHz band lol. I never get less than 3 bars now, while the European one I would barely get the 3G/4G signal most places and would be flaky even on the EDGE network. And just a note to all the people confused about the whole "4G" speeds thing on different basebands: The only thing different about the European baseband is that you lose the 850 MHz band. From my experience, it provided the same 3G/4G speeds whether I was on the North American baseband or the European one, the only difference was in the coverage. But losing the 850 MHz band sucks, that's the one that penetrates buildings better I think.
good news i got everything downloaded and ready to follow the next step and http://smallsrv.com/ is down. what now
Yes I did. @TylDurden Wipe them individually.
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good news i got everything downloaded and ready to follow the next step and http://smallsrv.com/ is down. what now
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It is up and running. Having trouble?
lg_haters_make_me_lol said:
Thanks for this writeup, I followed it to flash over the Rogers gingerbread from the European open one. The only thing I did different is use drivers from Adixtra's writeup for the KDZ, for some reason the ones you provided wouldn't recognize the phone correctly. All I can say is wow, I totally forgot how nice it is to have the 850 MHz band lol. I never get less than 3 bars now, while the European one I would barely get the 3G/4G signal most places and would be flaky even on the EDGE network. And just a note to all the people confused about the whole "4G" speeds thing on different basebands: The only thing different about the European baseband is that you lose the 850 MHz band. From my experience, it provided the same 3G/4G speeds whether I was on the North American baseband or the European one, the only difference was in the coverage. But losing the 850 MHz band sucks, that's the one that penetrates buildings better I think.
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NP - that was a biggie for me too. I am glad you found a working driver. No one has really been able to isolate the ghosting issue, although it has been demonstrated that it is not a hardware issue. I would recommend using the driver provided to standardize the results of this writeup, though, for the others who are looking to give it a shot.
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I use youmail too. Sometimes the person calling me got my voicemail. Sometimes they got "the subscriber you are calling is unavailable"
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I am using Google Voice (free). I have used youmail in the past and it became apparent that if I wanted transcribed voicemail for free, I would need to go to Google. I really liked the youmail features though.
can i use v21D_00 instead of V20?
Geez, I read the sticky in General and still ended up putting a question there. Sheesh. Apologies.
So, I have an original i987 ATT GTab 7 that I somehow got to GB a year or so ago, but it doesn't save settings consistently, loses my xfinity and yahoo mail account info, doesn't run half the apps I had under Froyo, and has some residual Skype config stuff from install on Froyo that won't let me install or run Skype anymore. Also, the wifi stack has always been sketchy. I also unlocked the Tab and managed to run it on another provider in China. I tried to root recently with SuperOneClick 2.3.3 and it pops up a window "SuperOneClick has stopped working..." I know how to set to USB debug and used Sideloader until ATT finally opened up the markets. I tried reloading the drivers and still get an exclamation mark.
The question is: does anyone do upgrades for a fee?
What I'm looking for is to enable the dialer, get the best wifi stability, have 3g data, the newest stable OS, have my apps run and be able to use it on ATT and Straight Talk (got the SIM already) for data, voice, and messaging.
I can recommended overcome method (see my signature for links)
With at&t stock modem and correct APN, you can go all the way to jellybeans if you want, and gel 3g and dialer.
The actual dialing though, is a problem. At&t knows you are a tablet, from their list of IMEI, and you likely can't dial on tablet plan.
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priyana said:
I can recommended overcome method (see my signature for links)
With at&t stock modem and correct APN, you can go all the way to jellybeans if you want, and gel 3g and dialer.
The actual dialing though, is a problem. At&t knows you are a tablet, from their list of IMEI, and you likely can't dial on tablet plan.
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So, will the Overcome 7 wipe give me a functional dialer (assuming the provider allows a call), or do I need to load the wifi fix or stock theme version? And what do those do differently from the wipe version?
Thanks,
Dan
No need those.
wifi fix is for those who has issue of wifi disconnecting.
stock theme version is for those who want it to look like Samsung stock.
Yes, if the provider allows making call, it will work fine.
I guess I didn't read your initial problem properly.
But tab not saving settings properly or can't get rid of old info, is a sign of internal nand chip going bad...
If that is so, you will have more problem ahead of you.
Hope it isn't the case.
priyana said:
I can recommended overcome method (see my signature for links)
With at&t stock modem and correct APN, you can go all the way to jellybeans if you want, and gel 3g and dialer.
The actual dialing though, is a problem. At&t knows you are a tablet, from their list of IMEI, and you likely can't dial on tablet plan.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using xda app-developers app
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priyana said:
No need those.
wifi fix is for those who has issue of wifi disconnecting.
stock theme version is for those who want it to look like Samsung stock.
Yes, if the provider allows making call, it will work fine.
I guess I didn't read your initial problem properly.
But tab not saving settings properly or can't get rid of old info, is a sign of internal nand chip going bad...
If that is so, you will have more problem ahead of you.
Hope it isn't the case.
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Oh, great. Well, it's all done now, apparently successfully, just need to go to Straight Talk.
So, this NAND chip. Any chance reflowing the board will fix it, or is it the chip itself? guess I could change the chip, unless it is a BGA.
It is just the chip,
there are two threads in the general forum I think that deals with damaged internal sd and how to use external only.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877585
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463756
Apparently it is glued on!
No talk about replacement so far. It is a Sandisk chip.
It will be great if you know how to get the replacement, I am sure many here are now running without one after removing it.
priyana said:
It is just the chip,
there are two threads in the general forum I think that deals with damaged internal sd and how to use external only.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877585
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463756
Apparently it is glued on!
No talk about replacement so far. It is a Sandisk chip.
It will be great if you know how to get the replacement, I am sure many here are now running without one after removing it.
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Well, at least on mine, the Overcome seems to have fixed the issue there, in addition to running much that so far. So, is this the latest? You have really gotten behind Overcome, but what about Cyanogen or others? Seems Overcome is based on Gingerbread, or is it ICS? Just need to get Straight Talk going and see if I can dial.
Is there a donation fund for Overcome?
It is GB based.
teamovercome website is down for so long, I wonder if they are still around as a group.
You can easily move on to ICS and JB of CM/AOKP
Just download the ROM and the correct gapps for it
and put in SD card
and boot to CWM recovery and flash it.
Watch the message on the screen.
Too many people saying it is bootlooping while actually each flash produce a different message as it progress with the process.
Hey everyone I am new here. My problem is i had an issue with my xt861 the other night it froze went into boot mode and i took the battery out not knowing what to do well i contacted Motorola they were very little to no help lol as i expected. I started reading on here and a few other places and finally got back into boot mode after a few failed recovery attempts. i used RSD Lite to flash it with solana_cdma_solana-user-2.3.6-5.5.1.1-84_D3G-25-120731-release-keys-ACG-US.xml and went into ##PROGRAM after it booted up and put my info back in it works as expected with 2 minor setbacks mms and 3g doesnt work. i know the online photo album address but it wont let me edit it for my mms but the 3g im lost. also this phone has had signal issues since day 1 would the radio mod i have read about on other threads help fix this by the way my mother is on my contract and all of my settings read the same as hers except for the online album thing and her phone is stock
rayratliff said:
Hey everyone I am new here. My problem is i had an issue with my xt861 the other night it froze went into boot mode and i took the battery out not knowing what to do well i contacted Motorola they were very little to no help lol as i expected. I started reading on here and a few other places and finally got back into boot mode after a few failed recovery attempts. i used RSD Lite to flash it with solana_cdma_solana-user-2.3.6-5.5.1.1-84_D3G-25-120731-release-keys-ACG-US.xml and went into ##PROGRAM after it booted up and put my info back in it works as expected with 2 minor setbacks mms and 3g doesnt work. i know the online photo album address but it wont let me edit it for my mms but the 3g im lost. also this phone has had signal issues since day 1 would the radio mod i have read about on other threads help fix this by the way my mother is on my contract and all of my settings read the same as hers except for the online album thing and her phone is stock
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It sounds like you put Verizon stuff on there so you may have to SBF to the 861 ROM. But I'd look around more first. I wonder if the APN got messed up?
I think thats what I did. I noticed the base band version is the only thing different. is their anyway i can pull the radio image off of another phone and just import it everything else matches up on this one sorry for the dumb question I am new at messing with smart phones and trying to learn everything I can. Also the working phone and phone thats not working with data both read System Version 5.8.25.XT861.ACG.en.US Android 2.3.6 and Kernel Version 2.6.35.7-g0cce2f0 I did the *228 to update the eri and prl version.
MrObvious said:
It sounds like you put Verizon stuff on there so you may have to SBF to the 861 ROM. But I'd look around more first. I wonder if the APN got messed up?
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rayratliff said:
I think thats what I did. I noticed the base band version is the only thing different. is their anyway i can pull the radio image off of another phone and just import it everything else matches up on this one sorry for the dumb question I am new at messing with smart phones and trying to learn everything I can. Also the working phone and phone thats not working with data both read System Version 5.8.25.XT861.ACG.en.US Android 2.3.6 and Kernel Version 2.6.35.7-g0cce2f0 I did the *228 to update the eri and prl version.
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Just use the SBF stuff but only flash the radio file. Go to the dev section and get the files from the AT&T/T-Mobile thread but instead use the 861 radio from the 861 SBF.
Thank you I fixed the baseband version now just working on getting my data working lol im learning and taking notes I made a backup of the build.prop file from the working phone and backed up the apn's
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Just use the SBF stuff but only flash the radio file. Go to the dev section and get the files from the AT&T/T-Mobile thread but instead use the 861 radio from the 861 SBF.
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Thank you I fixed the baseband version now just working on getting my data working lol im learning and taking notes I made a backup of the build.prop file from the working phone and backed up the apn's
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You're welcome. Now I'm not sure how you'd get data working. Try checking all the programming then force it to EVDO only (*#*#4636#*#* should do it in there).
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You're welcome. Now I'm not sure how you'd get data working. Try checking all the programming then force it to EVDO only (*#*#4636#*#* should do it in there).
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I figured it out if i can work all of the bugs out of building a flash for it tried doing it with rsdlite safestrap and root toolbox but each say im missing something in a xml file. anyway it had the wrong apn settings it wont let me just install a apn for some reason i did notice it has around 13 different apn files in the system folder. I wont give up til i fix what i broke lol and i enjoy learning all of what i have
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I figured it out if i can work all of the bugs out of building a flash for it tried doing it with rsdlite safestrap and root toolbox but each say im missing something in a xml file. anyway it had the wrong apn settings it wont let me just install a apn for some reason i did notice it has around 13 different apn files in the system folder. I wont give up til i fix what i broke lol and i enjoy learning all of what i have
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I managed to make a nandroid backup of a phone exactly like this one thats working with thats is on my account but its just being a headache to load I will post as i make progress and i will post the final software after I get it finished
Alright guys thank you for all of the help and advice. I used Rom Manager to load a backup I made of a working phone just like the one i was having issues with to my phone it took a little tweaking but it is identifying the network now my mms server and apn's are correct now so all is looking good
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I managed to make a nandroid backup of a phone exactly like this one thats working with thats is on my account but its just being a headache to load I will post as i make progress and i will post the final software after I get it finished
Alright guys thank you for all of the help and advice. I used Rom Manager to load a backup I made of a working phone just like the one i was having issues with to my phone it took a little tweaking but it is identifying the network now my mms server and apn's are correct now so all is looking good
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Good to hear.
rayratliff said:
Hey everyone I am new here. My problem is i had an issue with my xt861 the other night it froze went into boot mode and i took the battery out not knowing what to do well i contacted Motorola they were very little to no help lol as i expected. I started reading on here and a few other places and finally got back into boot mode after a few failed recovery attempts. i used RSD Lite to flash it with solana_cdma_solana-user-2.3.6-5.5.1.1-84_D3G-25-120731-release-keys-ACG-US.xml and went into ##PROGRAM after it booted up and put my info back in it works as expected with 2 minor setbacks mms and 3g doesnt work. i know the online photo album address but it wont let me edit it for my mms but the 3g im lost. also this phone has had signal issues since day 1 would the radio mod i have read about on other threads help fix this by the way my mother is on my contract and all of my settings read the same as hers except for the online album thing and her phone is stock
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I believe that file is for an alltel milestone 3. Pretty sure its the one I used to restore one I had. I think the acg in the title stands for allied cellulr group or something similar. They are or were owned by a company name atni.
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every1nosme said:
I believe that file is for an alltel milestone 3. Pretty sure its the one I used to restore one I had. I think the acg in the title stands for allied cellulr group or something similar. They are or were owned by a company name atni.
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Thanks guys I thought i had all of the bugs worked out but it keeps going mobile network state Connecting then it will say Disconnected so i have a few bugs to work out but i am on the right track lol it recognizes my carrier as Appalachian wireless now lol I think its something to do with my Radio.img file so im reading up on how to back it up as well I also noticed that the main account is the one I have on the other phone. Im glad its a close family member lol but its making progress on this company thats very small when put up against a national carrier so maybe soon ill be able to mod the roms and have something I like without all of the motocrap lol but im just taking it one step at a time.
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Thanks guys I thought i had all of the bugs worked out but it keeps going mobile network state Connecting then it will say Disconnected so i have a few bugs to work out but i am on the right track lol it recognizes my carrier as Appalachian wireless now lol I think its something to do with my Radio.img file so im reading up on how to back it up as well I also noticed that the main account is the one I have on the other phone. Im glad its a close family member lol but its making progress on this company thats very small when put up against a national carrier so maybe soon ill be able to mod the roms and have something I like without all of the motocrap lol but im just taking it one step at a time.
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alright ive figured this much out the carrier specific info is stored partly in the root Data/property/ folder it has 7 files that can be edited with a text editor and will allow input of your number and home carrier info
also several db files in the data/data/ sub folders contain info some with sid and nid's i tweaked my signal this way using a free db editor I still dont have the correct token to log into my mobile internet but im wrking on that I have the correct apn's set on the acg flash files Appalachian wireless is apn 7 I noticed about 48 apn files in my flash
Problems: No sim card (I have a different network), unable to download or update anything, even over wifi. (Wifi does work for internet browsing.) Runs slowly.
First time Captivate owner and first time delving into tampering with electronics. Most of my "programming" experience is just learner's stuff: html in HS with a little JavaScript, then some intro to C++ a while back in my freshman year of college, so I'm not completely useless when it comes to files, codes and such.
My phone was stolen a few months back and a relative gave me a Captivate to use when they upgraded since the main function I was missing was the ability to take and send pictures instantly (for work and family). The phone has no SIM. I thought about trying to unlock it and using it as my primary phone but after a few days research it seems it wouldn't do me any good since it is an AT&T phone and I have Sprint, so not compatible networks (as far as I can tell).
Still, there are certain apps that I use on my tablet that would be easier to use on a smaller, more portable device. They are current Google Play apps. but the phone is on android 2.1 and still has the old market. I'm sure I'll need to update to a more current android version (which I'm not sure how to do). Without the SIM, it won't let me update through the phone itself. I thought I'd found a helpful response in another thread on how to update via USB, but it went to a mediafire file that was no longer available. It seems as though the lack of a SIM card is preventing any downloads, even over wifi. I can browse the internet, check email, log into facebook, etc... but at the same time even some of the current apps already on the phone won't work. I've tried looking to see if a sim is required for downloads to work, but so far I haven't found anything particularly useful.
Where/how do I update to the current version of Android? Do I need to update the ROMs & Kernels as well? What other files would need updated to "bring it up to speed"? What order? (I've read that is important.) I'm generally quick at picking up on things like this and looking forward to learning from you all.
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Problems: No sim card (I have a different network), unable to download or update anything, even over wifi. (Wifi does work for internet browsing.) Runs slowly.
First time Captivate owner and first time delving into tampering with electronics. Most of my "programming" experience is just learner's stuff: html in HS with a little JavaScript, then some intro to C++ a while back in my freshman year of college, so I'm not completely useless when it comes to files, codes and such.
My phone was stolen a few months back and a relative gave me a Captivate to use when they upgraded since the main function I was missing was the ability to take and send pictures instantly (for work and family). The phone has no SIM. I thought about trying to unlock it and using it as my primary phone but after a few days research it seems it wouldn't do me any good since it is an AT&T phone and I have Sprint, so not compatible networks (as far as I can tell).
Still, there are certain apps that I use on my tablet that would be easier to use on a smaller, more portable device. They are current Google Play apps. but the phone is on android 2.1 and still has the old market. I'm sure I'll need to update to a more current android version (which I'm not sure how to do). Without the SIM, it won't let me update through the phone itself. I thought I'd found a helpful response in another thread on how to update via USB, but it went to a mediafire file that was no longer available. It seems as though the lack of a SIM card is preventing any downloads, even over wifi. I can browse the internet, check email, log into facebook, etc... but at the same time even some of the current apps already on the phone won't work. I've tried looking to see if a sim is required for downloads to work, but so far I haven't found anything particularly useful.
Where/how do I update to the current version of Android? Do I need to update the ROMs & Kernels as well? What other files would need updated to "bring it up to speed"? What order? (I've read that is important.) I'm generally quick at picking up on things like this and looking forward to learning from you all.
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There's a guide on here to unlock the Captivate. You should be able to use it on Sprint once it's done.
As for updating, the cappy lost Samsung support a while ago but you can flash a custom ROM from here which should give you much better results thant stock firmware. You can follow a guide to do so, it's fairly straight forward.
If you do go for a custom ROM, I suggest you stick with JellyBean. Kitkat is a bit heavy for the Captivate.
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There's a guide on here to unlock the Captivate. You should be able to use it on Sprint once it's done.
As for updating, the cappy lost Samsung support a while ago but you can flash a custom ROM from here which should give you much better results thant stock firmware. You can follow a guide to do so, it's fairly straight forward.
If you do go for a custom ROM, I suggest you stick with JellyBean. Kitkat is a bit heavy for the Captivate.
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I've been going over the Wiki as I've had time. I installed Kies Mini and have almost upgraded from Eclair to Gingerbread. I'll try looking again at the unlock guides. The only ones I had seen before required a sim card. I thought sprint wouldn't be compatible since it doesn't use a card though? And any ideas why I can't download from the market over wifi?
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I've been going over the Wiki as I've had time. I installed Kies Mini and have almost upgraded from Eclair to Gingerbread. I'll try looking again at the unlock guides. The only ones I had seen before required a sim card. I thought sprint wouldn't be compatible since it doesn't use a card though? And any ideas why I can't download from the market over wifi?
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Not so sure why you can't download over wifi, that should work w/o a sim card (as long as you're connected to your Google account).
And Sprint does use sim cards (just like any other carrier). You don't really need another card to unlock. But being with Sprint, don't you have a sim card? Otherwise, you can always get one from them for fairly cheap.
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Not so sure why you can't download over wifi, that should work w/o a sim card (as long as you're connected to your Google account).
And Sprint does use sim cards (just like any other carrier). You don't really need another card to unlock. But being with Sprint, don't you have a sim card? Otherwise, you can always get one from them for fairly cheap.
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Just finished the update to Gingerbread. Couldn't download with Eclair, but Gingerbread was letting me (albeit slowly). If I update to Jellybean would that fix the slowness?
I don't think my last phone had a sim, at least I do not remember seeing a card. It was a Galaxy S3..
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Unlike the other carriers with Galaxy S3 phone availability, Sprint opted not to have a removable SIM card for their version. Instead, the SIM card is embedded into the S3 phone itself.
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Even so, my last phone was stolen, otherwise I wouldn't have needed this one. Thanks anyway though. I'll see if I can get a sim card. My current phone doesn't have one either (Samsung Seek) When you mentioned sprint had sims, I thought I'd lucked out, but nope! lol
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Just got off the phone with sprint. I only told her it was a galaxy S, but she said that sprint doesn't use sim cards anymore, they're for international use. Not sure how accurate that is but I'm going to try unlocking it without a sim and see if it'll work. If not they said they could try to get one for me. ^_^ Either way, looks like my main project will be speeding it up (if possible). Thanks again!
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Just finished the update to Gingerbread. Couldn't download with Eclair, but Gingerbread was letting me (albeit slowly). If I update to Jellybean would that fix the slowness?
I don't think my last phone had a sim, at least I do not remember seeing a card. It was a Galaxy S3..
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Even so, my last phone was stolen, otherwise I wouldn't have needed this one. Thanks anyway though. I'll see if I can get a sim card. My current phone doesn't have one either (Samsung Seek) When you mentioned sprint had sims, I thought I'd lucked out, but nope! lol
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Just got off the phone with sprint. I only told her it was a galaxy S, but she said that sprint doesn't use sim cards anymore, they're for international use. Not sure how accurate that is but I'm going to try unlocking it without a sim and see if it'll work. If not they said they could try to get one for me. ^_^ Either way, looks like my main project will be speeding it up (if possible). Thanks again!
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Getting a JB custom ROM on it will surely speed it up. As for the download speed though, not a whole lot can be done. It has some old hardware and it also depends on your router. That being said, a newer kernel could help.
I found finally a thread for rooting my phone. (All the other methods I'd found seemed to have issues with GB). Worked great! Found the Galaxy_S Unlock by helroz (after tons of searching), but it's "not available in your country". I'm searching for a way to get it downloaded anyway, but don't know if it'll work w/ GB. Tried Superoneclick and it said device was already rooted (true) but when I tried to get the unlock code, nothing happened. It apparently doesn't work with GB, only Eclair & maybe Froyo. So right now it's either get helroz's app downloaded or I have to go back to Froyo some how (since going back two builds is apparently not recommended), find a way to unlock it, and upgrade it again. I'm going to keep looking, but if anyone knows how a better way to unlock it, I'd appreciate it!
Phone: Samsung Galaxy Captivate
Firmware: 2.3.5
Baseband: I897UCKK4
Kernael: 2.6.35.7-I897UCKK4-CORNv70A
Build: GINGERBREAD.UCKK4
Sumegitsune said:
I found finally a thread for rooting my phone. (All the other methods I'd found seemed to have issues with GB). Worked great! Found the Galaxy_S Unlock by helroz (after tons of searching), but it's "not available in your country". I'm searching for a way to get it downloaded anyway, but don't know if it'll work w/ GB. Tried Superoneclick and it said device was already rooted (true) but when I tried to get the unlock code, nothing happened. It apparently doesn't work with GB, only Eclair & maybe Froyo. So right now it's either get helroz's app downloaded or I have to go back to Froyo some how (since going back two builds is apparently not recommended), find a way to unlock it, and upgrade it again. I'm going to keep looking, but if anyone knows how a better way to unlock it, I'd appreciate it!
Phone: Samsung Galaxy Captivate
Firmware: 2.3.5
Baseband: I897UCKK4
Kernael: 2.6.35.7-I897UCKK4-CORNv70A
Build: GINGERBREAD.UCKK4
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You don't need another root if it's already rooted. I'm not sure about the steps to unlock the Cappy but it's possible that it needs to be on a older version.