The one solution that I've seen that allows third party apps to write to the external SD card in Kit Kat required root access.
I know that root is not currently possible, and with the locked bootloader, things look pretty bleak, so are there any other solutions available that I've missed.
Thanks
PS: With all of the the little "gotchas" I'm experiencing with this 1 day old device, "this" may be the real deal killer.
osetivo said:
The one solution that I've seen that allows third party apps to write to the external SD card in Kit Kat required root access.
I know that root is not currently possible, and with the locked bootloader, things look pretty bleak, so are there any other solutions available that I've missed.
Thanks
PS: With all of the the little "gotchas" I'm experiencing with this 1 day old device, "this" may be the real deal killer.
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No other way, changing the file needed to allow sdcard write access requires root... It's in /system.
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Noticed your sig. re: HTC One M8
I'm an ES File Explorer user and noticed a comment from a M8 user that said his rooted M8 wasn't working properly with ES after the /system SD Card hack.
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/b...ns-android-4-4-kitkat-your-galaxy-s4-0152036/
(1st comment)
Are you rooted? SD Hack installed? Working properly?
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osetivo said:
Noticed your sig. re: HTC One M8
I'm an ES File Explorer user and noticed a comment from a M8 user that said his rooted M8 wasn't working properly with ES after the /system SD Card hack.
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/b...ns-android-4-4-kitkat-your-galaxy-s4-0152036/
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Are you rooted? SD Hack installed? Working properly?
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I dont use ES i use root explorer and it's worked perfectly without issue.
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[Edit] disregard, unrooted users. Apparently, my XOOM just wasn't cooperating with the older version of the app. Sorry for the false alarm.
Just a heads up for those of you who use root explorer. The app has been updated to allow for files to be associated with a specific app from within Root Explorer. What the change log failed to mention was that writing to the SD card in /mnt/external1 (aka, your removable SD card) is now functioning in the app.
Huzzah!
Ive always been able to write to my external sd card with root explorer... or am I missing something?
I wasn't able to until this morning's update. I see that they've also formatted the app for tablets (sort of) with the settings button in the upper right corner.
Ihaven't had a problem writing to my sdcard with Root Explore prior to today either.
I've always been able to write to my external SD card with Root Explorer (as well as every other file manager I've installed. However, I applaud the update as welcome news for those who could not.
Yes, let everyone know...just another good reason to root your Xoom.
This makes me curious. I've been rooted since the beginning, yet it just now works for me. I'm wondering if this fixes r/w access for non rooted devices.
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I have been able to write to my external SD since the first day of rooting. Root Explorer is the tool I have used since the beginning.
Sistema1927 said:
I have been able to write to my external SD since the first day of rooting. Root Explorer is the tool I have used since the beginning.
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same here, but Root Development is always a good thing.
But it wasnt true that in 3.2 sdcard was just "reading" or something like that?
Sorry for my english.
Ifiuse said:
But it wasnt true that in 3.2 sdcard was just "reading" or something like that?
Sorry for my english.
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People were complaining about that, but if rooted, you could change r/o to r/w in Root Explorer.
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This makes me curious. I've been rooted since the beginning, yet it just now works for me. I'm wondering if this fixes r/w access for non rooted devices.
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Nope. Just tried.
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hi
should be getting mine today
how is everybody coping with the low storage issue?
i have been reading up on directory bind and also rickywyatt method
i dont plan on unlocking the bootloader but i do plan on rooting
What low storage issue are you talking about?
While most of them are installed on the SD, I have a lot of installed applications (about a hundred) and I still have more than 3Gb available (internal storage).
An SDcard can be used for your pictures/videos/games, up 32Gb (at least).
If you want to root your phone and don't want to unlock your bootloader, then don't upgrade it.
However, depending on the installed firmware, it may be impossible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
Motorola has fixed the root exploit in the last update.
ciberbeb said:
What low storage issue are you talking about?
While most of them are installed on the SD, I have a lot of installed applications (about a hundred) and I still have more than 3Gb available (internal storage).
An SDcard can be used for your pictures/videos/games, up 32Gb (at least).
If you want to root your phone and don't want to unlock your bootloader, then don't upgrade it.
However, depending on the installed firmware, it may be impossible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
Motorola has fixed the root exploit in the last update.
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oh, that was something i wanna ask, so if i download Need for Speed MW the 2 gb will install on the SD?
I can't see that it goes to the sd card everything I have downloaded has gone onto the internal memory
App2sd doesn't work so I think the only two methods we can use are directory bind or the internal swap memory trick
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I can't see that it goes to the sd card everything I have downloaded has gone onto the internal memory
App2sd doesn't work so I think the only two methods we can use are directory bind or the internal swap memory trick
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Did u tried using this app? i dont have a good connection so i cant try it by myself with games https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.
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oh, that was something i wanna ask, so if i download Need for Speed MW the 2 gb will install on the SD?
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It depends on the application. Some apps put thier "big" files on the sdcard, some won't.
As emu123 said, you can use an app like Apps2sd to move them from the internal to the external storage.
Even if I install a lot of games, I never ran out of storage. That was the case with my old HTC Desire HD.
Big games can use up to 400Mb, I still have more than 3Gb, which means I can install, at least, 7 big games (but some of them will put files on the SDcard if present). It won't ever happen.
EDIT: I think Apps2sd doesn't work with Android 4.x. Not sure, but I think that the system manages where to install apps when internal storage is full.
I already suggested the ability to move apps to the SD card on the motorola forums, Razr I discussions:
I even got an answer!
I'm a new user so I can't post links search it
Agustinb14 said:
I already suggested the ability to move apps to the SD card on the motorola forums, Razr I discussions:
I even got an answer!
I'm a new user so I can't post links search it
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I'm not sure the "gosh that's a good idea, we'll pass it on" really counts as an answer - almost as if no-one had ever thought of it before!
Does anyone know how to disable vibro on screen unlocking?
Hi, I set up a thread (in my signature) specifically for for those of us new to Motorola - I just got my first Moto phone 2 days ago too. You may find the thread helpful - I will update it with any info. that people need.
How do you mean low storage? Internally? 8GB (practically 5GB) is low to you? Compared with what? Most phones in the upper tier of mid-range have 8GB and many top-range phones start with 8GB...it seems perfectly normal to me. Either way, do you have an SD card? I've a 32GB for my music and it's now full...some phones load the SDs so slowly...but NOT thins phone, all of my music is found in seconds. :fingers-crossed:
Is it possible?
Really struggling with space on my Z1 right now.
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Is it possible?
Really struggling with space on my Z1 right now.
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No, this has been mentioned a few times. You need to have root to be able to install apps on SD. Once you root you can use Folder Mount or GL to SD
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Is it possible?
Really struggling with space on my Z1 right now.
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And even if sony would add the feature like samsung and some others did
For example on the sgs4 you can put apps on sd but it will only add the .apk to your sd (i gues you have some heavy games that use your space)
The .obb files still will be on internal sd
So i guess the only way is using foldermoun(or something like that) but that will need root
But keep in mind if you root your phone and don't unlock the bl and you have some problems with the phone and flash stock rom trough xperiatool you will have guarantee
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Thanks for the quick replies guys.
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No, this has been mentioned a few times. You need to have root to be able to install apps on SD. Once you root you can use Folder Mount or GL to SD
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i rooted my device on iHackers and used link2sd to transfer my apps to sdcard but it said that you will not be able to do this because your deviuce cant support this function!!!
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i rooted my device on iHackers and used link2sd to transfer my apps to sdcard but it said that you will not be able to do this because your deviuce cant support this function!!!
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I have never actually used the function myself, but there is a thread dedicated to the topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466329
From what I found you might have to use this fix for it to work.
What possible reason (as in good reason), would google have for making it impossible for users to write to their own sd cards?
I just got this S5 (AT&T) and it updated when I turned it on before I realized that the SD card is mounted ro, AND that you can't root 4.4.4.
I've searched for workarounds and barring rolling back to 4.4.2 I haven't found any.
So, why did google do this?
And, is there really no way around it?
What good is an SD card that I can't even create, modify, or delete files from? Did they not realize that this is why we have external storage?
doesn't towelroot root 4.4.4? I'm a bit hungover this morning, but pretty sure you're rootable as long as you don't do an over the air (OTA) update to 5.0 from AT&T.
I'm on 5.0 rooted room and using at&t .
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doesn't towelroot root 4.4.4? I'm a bit hungover this morning, but pretty sure you're rootable as long as you don't do an over the air (OTA) update to 5.0 from AT&T.
I'm on 5.0 rooted room and using at&t .
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towelroot told me that it doesn't support this phone.
If 5.x is available for my phone, won't that cure the sdcard ro mess? I was reading on Android Police that 5 was supposed to fix things.
4.4.4 is rootable, 5.0 owa is not. Don't do anything before you read up on the process to root 4.4.4 first and then how to update to 5.0 while keeping root. As for the sdcard, it works fine, read and write, on all versions. You have a different issue.
From all I've read after searching, 4.4.4 is not rootable, and below 5.something the sd card is not writeable by any app that either google or the carrier did not install or include with the firmware. Are those points incorrect?
Thanks
Tref said:
From all I've read after searching, 4.4.4 is not rootable, and below 5.something the sd card is not writeable by any app that either google or the carrier did not install or include with the firmware. Are those points incorrect?
Thanks
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Downgrade to nce. Read the entire OP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3076803
Tref said:
From all I've read after searching, 4.4.4 is not rootable, and below 5.something the sd card is not writeable by any app that either google or the carrier did not install or include with the firmware. Are those points incorrect?
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Search Play Store for NextApp SDFix to make your SD card writable. Worked great for me.
From your pc, did your sd card are format in fat32? Did you see in esexplorer /storage/extSdCard?
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cmerlyn said:
Search Play Store for NextApp SDFix to make your SD card writable. Worked great for me.
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Does it require root?
jo0147 said:
From your pc, did your sd card are format in fat32? Did you see in esexplorer /storage/extSdCard?
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I've had this card in several phones, it's not new. This is a known issue with kitkat
All: I don't want to take a chance on a set of instructions that includes multiple mentions of others bricking their devices while trying to follow them. All I was hoping to do was first and foremost rant a bit about google, and second to learn whether or not google let common sense rule and restored full write access to "our" external cards in a later update. They shouldn't have messed with external r/w access in the first place. If they really want to make our phones more secure when installing apps they should do a better job of policing their appstore and the code they host on it, imo.
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Does it require root?
Yes, root is required for the app.
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Tref said:
Does it require root?
I've had this card in several phones, it's not new. This is a known issue with kitkat
All: I don't want to take a chance on a set of instructions that includes multiple mentions of others bricking their devices while trying to follow them. All I was hoping to do was first and foremost rant a bit about google, and second to learn whether or not google let common sense rule and restored full write access to "our" external cards in a later update. They shouldn't have messed with external r/w access in the first place. If they really want to make our phones more secure when installing apps they should do a better job of policing their appstore and the code they host on it, imo.
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1) @muniz_ri's instructions will never result in a brick if followed correctly
2) there is no way to get sd card access on kitkat without root.
3) lollipop does support 3rd party apps writing to sd cards. However, the apps need to be updated to use the new API. (Most apps worth installing are updated by now)
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Tanks for the info about 5.0
I thing tail use the same policy about external storage. I not able to copie file from my linux to my usb, except for an other usb with tail partition.
Might it be that by disabling our ability to write to the external SD card, and limiting the abitlity of apps to do the same, that google is pushing people toward google drive? Could/would they be that avaricious?
It shouldn't come as a surprise as most all companies are driving toward paid storage.
But it is particularly galling when we are denied the use of storage that is vital to what we do on these things, and that we paid for ourselves.
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Might it be that by disabling our ability to write to the external SD card, and limiting the abitlity of apps to do the same, that google is pushing people toward google drive? Could/would they be that avaricious?
It shouldn't come as a surprise as most all companies are driving toward paid storage.
But it is particularly galling when we are denied the use of storage that is vital to what we do on these things, and that we paid for ourselves.
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Nope.. Android M is going have full sd card support including encryption.
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Hello!
I own the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 (with stock Android 5.02) and programs such as uTorrent cannot save on the external SD card. Do I have to give extra write permissions to the apps? The apps can read only I think.
The tab is not rooted so far.
Did you try Stickmount ??
Look for sd card fix on play. You need to be rooted.
SD Fix KitKat writable USB worked for me.
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Hello!
I own the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 (with stock Android 5.02) and programs such as uTorrent cannot save on the external SD card. Do I have to give extra write permissions to the apps? The apps can read only I think.
The tab is not rooted so far.
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Apps like Root Explorer and others that support Lollipops write access will prompt you to select the drive it will have permission to. If the app doesn't then, its outdated and wont access it. It has to do with the write permission that Google removed.
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Apps like Root Explorer and others that support Lollipops write access will prompt you to select the drive it will have permission to. If the app doesn't then, its outdated and wont access it. It has to do with the write permission that Google removed.
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It's dysfunctional in lollipop. Only really works in MM.
WRITE permissions can be obtained globally as said by applying the sd fix.
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It's dysfunctional in lollipop. Only really works in MM.
WRITE permissions can be obtained globally as said by applying the sd fix.
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As the op states, he is not rooted. So only apps that can ask for permission to use the SD card will.
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As the op states, he is not rooted. So only apps that can ask for permission to use the SD card will.
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He stated 'Yet' and it becomes obvious that root is required when downloading the Sd card fix and I already stated it requires root in my previous post.
If he wants global freedom to write to the sd card then that's the road to take.
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He stated 'Yet' and it becomes obvious that root is required when downloading the Sd card fix and I already stated it requires root in my previous post.
If he wants global freedom to write to the sd card then that's the road to take.
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Well that is a no brainer. Having root allows for all things to work but sacrifice security. I personally do not root anymore. My main apps, Root Explorer-MX Player-PLay Movies work with the MicroSD after a the permission was given.
Hopefully when MM comes we can have the option to adopt the extra storage and move on from this night mare
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Hopefully when MM comes we can have the option to adopt the extra storage and move on from this night mare
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Adopted storage brings it's own issues. I for one don't use it as its implementation affects access to the sd card through custom recovery and other platforms.
However write access permissions are now much improved and any app can obtain these permissions if the user allows.
As regards security when rooting, it doesn't have to be a risk. It's up to the user to be aware of what rooting is and how to use it.
Root can still be Selinux aware. It's up to the user to ensure what they do with their device is safe.
I for one feel my device is more secure with root as *I* have control over my device not what the manufacturer decides.
I will take measures to protect myself if required.
Even some of the apps I use to protect myself need root.
The benefit of root to me personally far outweighs any perceived security issue.
^^^ agree 100%
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