Help how to Flash zip file without custom recovery - Moto X Q&A

Hi xda community
I have at&t motox 4.4.2 rooted but locked bootloader and I need to Flash zip file without custom recovery can I ?
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MoMoGAX said:
Hi xda community
I have at&t motox 4.4.2 rooted but locked bootloader and I need to Flash zip file without custom recovery can I ?
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If you're rooted you can use ADB instead. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to do it, and I know it may be a little hard to use install recovery on a locked BL.
You can ask for help here but that's not our forum, it's the S4 Active. Hope that helps.

MoMoGAX said:
Hi xda community
I have at&t motox 4.4.2 rooted but locked bootloader and I need to Flash zip file without custom recovery can I ?
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Try flashify from the play store
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SafeStrap!

If you're on rooted 4.4.2...that means write protection is enabled. So won't whatever you flash get undone on a reboot or power off?
Just curious....never had a locked boot loader....building my knowledge.
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MoMoGAX said:
Hi xda community
I have at&t motox 4.4.2 rooted but locked bootloader and I need to Flash zip file without custom recovery can I ?
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If you have a locked bootloader, and are on 4.4.2, as @kj2112 brings up, write protection would have been re-enabled when you took the 4.4.2 OTA, so any "system" changes you make will be lost at power off/on.
Next, having a locked bootloader, you'll kind of stuck. You can't flash/install anything that isn't digitally signed by Moto. You can side load APK's, but that is about it.

Thanks a lot @KidJoe and all people responded to my post
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What is the past of least resistance to root a 4.4 tmo X? In order to keep data, is it still that insanely long process?
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WIth the T-Mobile variant you have two choices to root..
1. Unlock bootloader, flash twrp recovery, boot into twrp and install SU (or use TWRP's option to root). But this voids your warranty (since you don't have the developer edition), and unlocking the boot loader will wipe your device and data.
2. Use SlapMyMoto which has a lot of manual steps, and you need to reboot to "recovery" (well its modified and you don't have recovery), when you want R/W ability. (Or you have to also do the MotoWpNoMo process to gain R/W full time). But this has many steps.
KidJoe said:
WIth the T-Mobile variant you have two choices to root..
1. Unlock bootloader, flash twrp recovery, boot into twrp and install SU (or use TWRP's option to root). But this voids your warranty (since you don't have the developer edition), and unlocking the boot loader will wipe your device and data.
2. Use SlapMyMoto which has a lot of manual steps, and you need to reboot to "recovery" (well its modified and you don't have recovery), when you want R/W ability. (Or you have to also do the MotoWpNoMo process to gain R/W full time). But this has many steps.
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thanks - re #1, will upgrades be painful i.e., new OTAs?
km8j said:
thanks - re #1, will upgrades be painful i.e., new OTAs?
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OTA's will be more painful with #2 as there will be more to restore to stock. And of course the unknowns of if the new OTA will be rootable or not, and how long before a root process comes out.
For #1, you should be able to just put stock recovery back and take the OTA, then reflash TWRP and re-root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400
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Just following up. There is still no easy root method right?
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km8j said:
Just following up. There is still no easy root method right?
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Can't be any easier than unlocking your bootloader ,flash recovery and install superuser. 3 simple steps from my perspective
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flashallthetime said:
Can't be any easier than unlocking your bootloader ,flash recovery and install superuser. 3 simple steps from my perspective
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Unless u have Dev. Edition u cannot unlock boot loader.. I'm on 4.4 and I am fully rooted.
Slapped my Moto
xpsychox said:
Unless u have Dev. Edition u cannot unlock boot loader.. I'm on 4.4 and I am fully rooted.
Slapped my Moto
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You can unlock the Sprint & Tmo version. No dev edition required.
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Same with Rogers, only versions that can't unlock are Verizon and AT&T consumer version
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quickstang said:
You can unlock the Sprint & Tmo version. No dev edition required.
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I knew u couldn't do on at and Verizon...but he also never said what he had..not that I saw
Slapped my Moto
and what if you have the T-Mobile Moto X, haven't got the email to unlock bootloader and you can't get adb to recognize device?
DanRo80 said:
and what if you have the T-Mobile Moto X, haven't got the email to unlock bootloader and you can't get adb to recognize device?
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There was another thread about this... Guy said he used a new gmail account and got email
Slapped my Moto
Just bumping to see if there are any new reasonable ways of rooting kitkat?
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km8j said:
Just bumping to see if there are any new reasonable ways of rooting kitkat?
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Well, if you don't have an unlocked bootloader, SlapMyMoto (which now incorporates the MotoWpNoMo process into its steps) is the only way (there have been some efforts to consolidate/automate the process). And may not be usable if you're already on 4.4.2 (taking the 4.4.2 OTA update or flashing the full 4.4.2 SBF prevents you from flashing older ROMs which is a crucial step in using SlapMyMoto).
I've not see a 4.4.2 specific root process for locked bootloaders yet, but to be honest, I have a unlocked bootloader, so I haven't been completely paying attention.
If you have an unlocked bootloader, root process is still the same.
there is not going to be any new way to root 4.4 is not going to get a new exploit because 4.4.2 is out and Devs are working on finding a way to root it so the people with locked bootloaders can update.
if you want to root your device you have allready been giving the only 2 ways to do it
Locked bootloader - SlapMyMoto
Unlocked bootloader - Customer Recovery and SUPERSU
please dont bump your thread for info you allready have.
here is a link to both guides for both methods and a guide for unlocking your bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358

[Q] Safestrap with 4.4 non-dev edition?

Has anyone successfully installed and used Safestrap with 4.4 Kitkat (Non-Developer Edition)? Looks like Safestrap 3.65 works but I am not seeing a lot of chatter about it. Please share if you have! Thanks!
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Has anyone successfully installed and used Safestrap with 4.4 Kitkat (Non-Developer Edition)? Looks like Safestrap 3.65 works but I am not seeing a lot of chatter about it. Please share if you have! Thanks!
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Yes I have. 3.65.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
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With me being wp off does that make any difference in how to install safestrap?
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dlscott1111 said:
With me being wp off does that make any difference in how to install safestrap?
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Nope. Just install as normal.
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Ok dumb question, but I'm still trying to learn here.
*a bit of background
Rogers 4.4.2 moto x
Locked boot loader
No root
Dead stock
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There are 3 custom recoveries for the Moto X I've found out about so far.
TWRP and CWM (used Clockwork on all my other rooted devices) but these are specifically for unlocked boot loader device. Unlocking the boot loader doesn't seem that difficult (just go to the Motorola website I believe (I have the Rogers XT1058 so it should work )).
Then there's Safe Strap. Supposedly you don't have to have the boot loader unlocked for this to work so this seems like an easier method to gain custom recovery.
Now my dumb question(s):
Is the only difference the need if the boot loader to be locked or unlocked?
Do I need to run slap my moto or a similar tool to disable write protection?
The main question really:
I am really interested in Gravity Box! Would SafeStrap be the way to go? Or do I need to go through Slapmymoto, TWRP or CWM and go from there?
Any help is greatly appreciated! Still trying to learn about what's what because I love this phone but really just want to get rid of the navigation bar and have PIE controls for a full screen mode
Thanks everyone! Good day to all!
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Since you're updated to 4.4.2 you will need to unlock your bootloader to root the phone(which also voids the warranty on a Rogers phone).
Once it is unlocked install whichever custom recovery you prefer and have fun modding.
thatdude02 said:
Ok dumb question, but I'm still trying to learn here.
*a bit of background
Rogers 4.4.2 moto x
Locked boot loader
No root
Dead stock
*
There are 3 custom recoveries for the Moto X I've found out about so far.
TWRP and CWM (used Clockwork on all my other rooted devices) but these are specifically for unlocked boot loader device. Unlocking the boot loader doesn't seem that difficult (just go to the Motorola website I believe (I have the Rogers XT1058 so it should work )).
Then there's Safe Strap. Supposedly you don't have to have the boot loader unlocked for this to work so this seems like an easier method to gain custom recovery.
Now my dumb question(s):
Is the only difference the need if the boot loader to be locked or unlocked?
Do I need to run slap my moto or a similar tool to disable write protection?
The main question really:
I am really interested in Gravity Box! Would SafeStrap be the way to go? Or do I need to go through Slapmymoto, TWRP or CWM and go from there?
Any help is greatly appreciated! Still trying to learn about what's what because I love this phone but really just want to get rid of the navigation bar and have PIE controls for a full screen mode
Thanks everyone! Good day to all!
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Steve-X is right because you are not rooted right now you wont be able to install safestrap.
your only option if you want root is to unlock your bootloader.
but if you do that you have a choice of Clockwork mod or TWRP custom recovery.(me personally i would not use safestrap on a unlocked bootloader)
if you dont want to unlock your bootloader then im sorry to say there is no root option for you right now or custom recovery's
if you do thou rooting your phone is very simple
unlock bootloader
install customer recovery of your choice
flash SuperSU
then you have Root.
dray_jr said:
Steve-X is right because you are not rooted right now you wont be able to install safestrap.
your only option if you want root is to unlock your bootloader.
but if you do that you have a choice of Clockwork mod or TWRP custom recovery.(me personally i would not use safestrap on a unlocked bootloader)
if you dont want to unlock your bootloader then im sorry to say there is no root option for you right now or custom recovery's
if you do thou rooting your phone is very simple
unlock bootloader
install customer recovery of your choice
flash SuperSU
then you have Root.
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Awesome thank you so much! I was worried that I had to work around write protection and all that. I've found the TWRP forum for this device so I think its time to do a bit of reading!
Steve-x said:
Since you're updated to 4.4.2 you will need to unlock your bootloader to root the phone(which also voids the warranty on a Rogers phone).
Once it is unlocked install whichever custom recovery you prefer and have fun modding.
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Cool! Well the phone is a Rogers device but I don't have a warranty just because I unlocked it and took it to a different carrier (bought on Craigslist for $275). Man I was worried about a ton of other stuff to use. Thanks for your help!
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Is there any Roms compatible with safe strap for at&t?
MOTO X Slapped
[email protected] said:
Is there any Roms compatible with safe strap for at&t?
MOTO X Slapped
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the roms are not recovery based they are device based if there is a AT&T rom you like just flash it with safestrap
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the roms are not recovery based they are device based if there is a AT&T rom you like just flash it with safestrap
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I can't seem to find any Roms. I tried eclipse for vzw and gsm but it didn't work.
MOTO X Slapped
[email protected] said:
I can't seem to find any Roms. I tried eclipse for vzw and gsm but it didn't work.
MOTO X Slapped
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what do you mean it didnt work can you explain abit more like what errors you got and so forth
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I can't seem to find any Roms. I tried eclipse for vzw and gsm but it didn't work.
MOTO X Slapped
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You have to flash it to stock slot.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
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dray_jr said:
what do you mean it didnt work can you explain abit more like what errors you got and so forth
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I created a ROM slot for it. I've used safestrap with my gs4 so I know how it works. I created a ROM slot then flashed eclipse on that ROM slot rebooted and go the dead android with the red triangle warning.
MOTO X Slapped
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lowvolt1 said:
You have to flash it to stock slot.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
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I didn't know. So you can only flash it on the stock slot? And if any thing just revert back with rsdlite? I've used Odin and it seems like its the same thing.
MOTO X Slapped
[email protected] said:
I created a ROM slot for it. I've used safestrap with my gs4 so I know how it works. I created a ROM slot then flashed eclipse on that ROM slot rebooted and go the dead android with the red triangle warning.
MOTO X Slapped
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I didn't know. So you can only flash it on the stock slot? And if any thing just revert back with rsdlite? I've used Odin and it seems like its the same thing.
MOTO X Slapped
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You can use safe strap to create a back up of stock slot the if anything you can restore stock to the slot.
slapped the sh*t out of my X
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Is it okay to unlock Bootloader while rooted 4.4 slapmymoto?

I'm currently rooted with 4.4 using the slapmymoto method. I'm ready to void my warranty by unlocking my bootloader via Motorola. Is it recommended to unlock the bootloader the way the phone is set up now, or should I go back to factory 4.4 and then unlock the bootloader? I'm just trying to make sure I don't brick my phone.
Thanks
biggiestuff said:
I'm currently rooted with 4.4 using the slapmymoto method. I'm ready to void my warranty by unlocking my bootloader via Motorola. Is it recommended to unlock the bootloader the way the phone is set up now, or should I go back to factory 4.4 and then unlock the bootloader? I'm just trying to make sure I don't brick my phone.
Thanks
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Doesn't matter how you do it. It will work fine.
Just know that unlocking the bootloader will WIPE YOUR DATA. That means everything that was stored on your SD card is not gone.
zerogun said:
Doesn't matter how you do it. It will work fine.
Just know that unlocking the bootloader will WIPE YOUR DATA. That means everything that was stored on your SD card is not gone.
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Doesnt slap my moto remove the recovery? So if I unlock the boot loader will it not ve able to wipe and factory reset?
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biggiestuff said:
Doesnt slap my moto remove the recovery? So if I unlock the boot loader will it not ve able to wipe and factory reset?
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That's a good question! What does slapmymoto do to recovery? very curious..
biggiestuff said:
Doesnt slap my moto remove the recovery? So if I unlock the boot loader will it not ve able to wipe and factory reset?
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Humm.... Not really sure. I thought it loaded a modified version of the stock recovery, but with write protection disabled. If this is the case, then it will still wipe your data.
Hopefully someone with more knowledge chimes in. I have not used slapmymoto since I unlocked my bootloader.
SlapMyMoto 1.0 does not touch the recovery. Your recovery is completely stock. MotoWPNoMo disables write protection for the system. I unlocked my bootloader while rooted via SlapMyMoto and retained root so I did not have to flash a custom recovery to gain root. However, there is nothing wrong with playing it safe and flashing back to stock and then you unlocking your bootloader.
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Dark9781 said:
SlapMyMoto 1.0 does not touch the recovery. Your recovery is completely stock. MotoWPNoMo disables write protection for the system. I unlocked my bootloader while rooted via SlapMyMoto and retained root so I did not have to flash a custom recovery to gain root. However, there is nothing wrong with playing it safe and flashing back to stock and then you unlocking your bootloader.
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Even though you unlocked nd day rooted on 4.4 do you still have white protection off?
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JGoN86 said:
Even though you unlocked nd day rooted on 4.4 do you still have white protection off?
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Once you unlock your bootloader write protection is disabled.
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Dark9781 said:
Once you unlock your bootloader write protection is disabled.
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Awesome thanks
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Dark9781 said:
SlapMyMoto 1.0 does not touch the recovery. Your recovery is completely stock. MotoWPNoMo disables write protection for the system. I unlocked my bootloader while rooted via SlapMyMoto and retained root so I did not have to flash a custom recovery to gain root. However, there is nothing wrong with playing it safe and flashing back to stock and then you unlocking your bootloader.
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So use rsdlite and flash stock 4.4 and unlock boot loader after ?
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biggiestuff said:
So use rsdlite and flash stock 4.4 and unlock boot loader after ?
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You can if you want to play it safe, but if you are already rooted with SlapMyMoto then you really don't have to. The only issues you may run into is if you modified the system and there is an ota update.
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4.2.2 VZW Moto X

Just picked it up have root and WiFi tethering through xposed. What next? I'm doubting theres a possibility of the boot loader being unlocked.
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Possible bootloader unlock (currently for 2014 models?) -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
otherwise, if you can't unlock, do not upgrade past 4.4. i.e. do NOT take 4.4.2 if you want to stay rooted with write protection disabled.
KidJoe said:
Possible bootloader unlock (currently for 2014 models?) -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
otherwise, if you can't unlock, do not upgrade past 4.4. i.e. do NOT take 4.4.2 if you want to stay rooted with write protection disabled.
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If I boot to the rw protection off with locked boot loader I still can't flash a custom recovery without having to use safestrap correct?
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Zombieincdev said:
If I boot to the rw protection off with locked boot loader I still can't flash a custom recovery without having to use safestrap correct?
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With a locked bootloader you can not flash 3rd party parts like recovery or roms.
Yes, rooted and using safe strap you can somewhat get around this. I believe you can flash a custom recovery in safe straped rom. But I'm not 100% sure as I have an unlocked bootloader and don't use safe strap.

Its possible to adb sideload Android M to a completely stock AT&T Moto X XT1095?

Im using an Unrooted completely Stock Android 5.1 AT&T Moto X XT1095 and i really want to have Marshmallow.
Its possible? Thanks
ImBuGs said:
Im using an Unrooted completely Stock Android 5.1 AT&T Moto X XT1095 and i really want to have Marshmallow.
Its possible? Thanks
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Not through sideload no. You can flash it with RSDLite or fastboot, but only if your bootloader is unlocked.
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AGISCI said:
Not through sideload no. You can flash it with RSDLite or fastboot, but only if your bootloader is unlocked.
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The problem is that my bootloader is locked and CANT be unlocked due to at&t (fastboot cant get unlock key)
So I cant install a custom recovery, is there ANY way I can get Android 6?
ImBuGs said:
The problem is that my bootloader is locked and CANT be unlocked due to at&t (fastboot cant get unlock key)
So I cant install a custom recovery, is there ANY way I can get Android 6?
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No.
However you can unlock your bootloader with sunshine. After you unlock it, then you can do it.
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AGISCI said:
No.
However you can unlock your bootloader with sunshine. After you unlock it, then you can do it.
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I know about sunshine but i dont have a credit card much less a PayPal account to pay for it, if there isnt any other way, well i guess i'll wait until i get a new phone. Thanks for your help

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