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Came home from work to my new nexus 7! I gotta say opening the box was a pain in the ass but well worth the patience. Overall I have to admit I am very impressed with this device, incredibly fast and truly "buttery" smooth. Jelly bean is incredible and this is my first "pure" android experience and so far so good. At first I was concerned about the quality of the display and the "washed" out look but contrary to what everyone thinks I happen to think it looks great! And fortunately I am very grateful that my n7 doesn't have the screen displacement that everyone has been talking about. And I really didn't want to go through the trouble of returning mine to Google play and waiting for another one lol. I come from a family that absolutely loves apple phones, laptops, and ipads. I'm sort of an android junkie and love the freedom that comes with it, with that being said I figure this would make a perfect first tablet for me to own and after extensive use of my families ipads In my personal opinion I have to say that the n7 is superior in many ways. Great tablet, specs, and price! So kudos to Asus and Google for bringing this bad boy to the market!
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Yeh, just opened mine yesterday and love it! The first time opening the box was fine was easy for me. But I put the documents back in the box. When I tried to open it to read hem, it was really hard. Overall it is a great tablet. Can't wait to root!
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Stevenator21 said:
Yeh, just opened mine yesterday and love it! The first time opening the box was fine was easy for me. But I put the documents back in the box. When I tried to open it to read hem, it was really hard. Overall it is a great tablet. Can't wait to root!
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Mine is actually quite easy to open now that I've taken the tablet out of the box lol. Yes! I cannot wait to root this either!
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I'd recommend unlocking the bootloader right now, because it wipes all your user data.
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+1 for unlocking now. I waited a couple of days and it was a pain doing the usual backup routine.
I blanked out and didn't unlock it when I got it. What I'm gonna do is root it do a nandroid backup then unlock and restore.
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Yeah I still haven't gotten around to rooting or unlocking yet... This thing is amazing I can't put it down lol. Is the root toolkit compatible with the latest update 4.1.1? Haven't updated yet but it keeps asking me every single time I power it on
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3vo kid said:
Yeah I still haven't gotten around to rooting or unlocking yet... This thing is amazing I can't put it down lol. Is the root toolkit compatible with the latest update 4.1.1? Haven't updated yet but it keeps asking me every single time I power it on
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Yup! Wubfreshes toolkit is compatible with 4.1.1. I agree I really can't put it down, a steal for $249!
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I blanked out and didn't unlock it when I got it. What I'm gonna do is root it do a nandroid backup then unlock and restore.
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Can you install a custom recovery to do a nandroid backup with the bootloader locked?
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I blanked out and didn't unlock it when I got it. What I'm gonna do is root it do a nandroid backup then unlock and restore.
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I'm pretty sure that your nandroid will get wiped as well with the boot loader unlock
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I'm pretty sure that your nandroid will get wiped as well with the boot loader unlock
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If you could make a nandroid backup, copying the file to a computer for storage would allow you to wipe the tablet and then copy the file back and restore.
Thats what I was going to do
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I'm right there with you. I was nervous after reading the negative reviews, but I've had mine 2 weeks and no problems. I also come from a long line of Apple lovers and cant wait to show off all the "buttery" goodness of this fine device.
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Making a nandroid didn't even cross my mind when I did it, I wouldn't worry..... anyways, don't you need an unlocked bootloader or root to install a recovery to make a nandroid? Just my thoughts, I ,might be wrong.
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On mine I did a simple adb backup and restore. Took about an hour including set up(never done it before) and it was a painless way to keep all apps and app data as well as settings. Anyone looking to unlock and not have to deal with losing app data should Google it and check out out.
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Gonna root first, do a nandroid and titanium back up move the files onto my desktop unlock then move them over and restore
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Gonna root first, do a nandroid and titanium back up move the files onto my desktop unlock then move them over and restore
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You needed to be unlocked to root. I just unlocked my boot loader, no problem. To do a backup, use the backup for apps in wugfresh's toolkit, you don't need root to do it.
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I love my N7!!
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Literally can't stop playing with this thing! However I have to send it back to Google for a replacement I have several dead pixels and the touchscreen has started bugging out on me. It goes from not registering my touch to randomly pressing apps. Already contacted Google for my RMA for, shipping label, and new replacement ready for order. Hopefully the new one will be defect free lol
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Hey,
Well I got my N7 yesterday and played around with it and all in all I think that it's a good tablet with 4.2.1. I find it to be slow sometimes when I am typing fast or using chrome.
If I did decide to root could I backup my device before I do so I can just restore and carry on like nothing has changed.
What are the advantages of rooting the N7, I know I can speed it up and delete stock apps.
Would appreciate it if someone helped me out.
Also if I do root can someone post
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So that its a good idea to root then, can I backup before I root so I can carry on from normal?
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I suggest that you learn what is root access and what you can do with it before doing so, rooting is not a goal, but the means to an end.
What I usually tell anyone who asks this question is: Do it if you need root access for something specific (can be as insignificant as one app). And if you need to ask without knowing if you have to root, then the answer is no until you understand what it is you're doing.
Edit: Do some research on root access and it's benefits/drawbacks and Nexus factory restore images to put your mind at ease on rolling back to stock. Having root access in and out of itself is harmless, what the user chooses to do with that can be dangerous, especially if what they are looking to do is delete system files.
Edit 2: Assuming that you are using stock firmware, I have heard of slowdowns caused by Google currents and its background sync. Try turning off the background sync and see if that helps with your issues.
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Spunkiest said:
So that its a good idea to root then, can I backup before I root so I can carry on from normal?
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Don't just do something just to do it. Rooting alone will add nothing to your device or its performance. Rooting allows access to areas of the operating system for apps that require it, but these are generally limited to backup apps and those that modify certain settings. It also makes a device more vulnerable to some serious problems if done wrong or if you misuse an app that has root access. If you are unsure, best to leave it alone until you know what the benefits are exactly and whether or not you need it. BTW, rooting will void your warranty on most devices and unless you understand how to recover from a problem and return your device to stock in the event you need warranty service or exchange, I would stay away from it.
I was also thinking of rooting with the Nexus Root Kit. And i also saw that you have an option to "Flash Stock+Unroot" has anybody tried this toolkit ?
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ROOTING is a NECESSITY!!!
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meh, like others said, only root if there is something you need and to those that say you dont lose anything thats a tad wrong, some apps check for root and dont let you run them. There are apps that hide the root but from personal experience they dont always work for everything.
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Brandon Simion Sebok said:
I was also thinking of rooting with the Nexus Root Kit. And i also saw that you have an option to "Flash Stock+Unroot" has anybody tried this toolkit ?
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I tried it. I unlocked and rooted my N7 with it and I also flashed stock and unrooted it, because something went wrong and I had to do it (that mistake was made by me, not by the program). Everything went very good and fast, I recommend it (it's your choice to use a toolkit or not), but read everything carefully!
Of course all of this depends on what you want to do with the device after root. There is no point if you want to stick custom ROMs on it as being a nexus device it will constantly be updated. Only if you require root access to a specific application should you root the device. But also take into consideration if it is worth it. If it is for a minor improvement then you have the potential to brick the device and void warrenty for nothing. Only do it if there is a genuine need.
Adinaky said:
I tried it. I unlocked and rooted my N7 with it and I also flashed stock and unrooted it, because something went wrong and I had to do it (that mistake was made by me, not by the program). Everything went very good and fast, I recommend it (it's your choice to use a toolkit or not), but read everything carefully!
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Thanks a million i was hesitating , but if you say it works great , I'll take your word
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Is there any way to backup all my app and games ( with all my progress I have made) before unlocking the boothloader?
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AngryGamer025 said:
Is there any way to backup all my app and games ( with all my progress I have made) before unlocking the boothloader?
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In a word, no. Titanium Backup will not even run on an unrooted device. Other backup apps may run on an unrooted device, but you will not be able to restore data from them if you are not rooted, only the actual apps. You need to first unlock the bootloader to root a Nexus 7.
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Brandon Simion Sebok said:
Thanks a million i was hesitating , but if you say it works great , I'll take your word
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So you decided to take the advice of people who have been here months over that of others who have been here years. Good for you!:good:
I know I've been here only for one year, but I learnt many useful things. I tried this program and it works great, I recommend it, but only if you need something fast and simple and you don't want to learn anything. You can do it the hard way to discover something new, right? It's his choice after all, isn't it?
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ROOTING is a NECESSITY!!!
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+1
Not for everyone though.
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I was also thinking of rooting with the Nexus Root Kit. And i also saw that you have an option to "Flash Stock+Unroot" has anybody tried this toolkit ?
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I don't advocate against the use of toolkits myself (as I've used even used them on my own N7), but I would at least urge you to understand what it is you're doing before you do it. And by that I don't mean knowing enough to manually input every command, just know enough to understand why you're doing something and have a general idea of how it is accomplished.
Trust me, learning a little bit before using the automated route saves you and everyone else a lot of crying and hand holding over simple matters if something ever goes wrong.
littleemp said:
I don't advocate against the use of toolkits myself (as I've used even used them on my own N7), but I would at least urge you to understand what it is you're doing before you do it. And by that I don't mean knowing enough to manually input every command, just know enough to understand why you're doing something and have a general idea of how it is accomplished.
Trust me, learning a little bit before using the automated route saves you and everyone else a lot of crying and hand holding over simple matters if something ever goes wrong.
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Yep, certainly. It's nothing wrong in learning something, it won't hurt anybody.
littleemp said:
I don't advocate against the use of toolkits myself (as I've used even used them on my own N7), but I would at least urge you to understand what it is you're doing before you do it. And by that I don't mean knowing enough to manually input every command, just know enough to understand why you're doing something and have a general idea of how it is accomplished.
Trust me, learning a little bit before using the automated route saves you and everyone else a lot of crying and hand holding over simple matters if something ever goes wrong.
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Yep agreed. As someone that's done it the hard way too many times I can't wait to use a toolkit when i get this device. Lol
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littleemp said:
Trust me, learning a little bit before using the automated route saves you and everyone else a lot of crying and hand holding over simple matters if something ever goes wrong.
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This guy gets it.
Just root as soon as possible and be done with it and never look back.
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Yeah, go ahead and root it. What could possibly go wrong?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080183
Hi, guys
I think that it's great to have the ability to root your N7 without USB cable and perhaps without PC (like the transformer prime) :laughf course after unlocking your boot loader (unfortunately using PC) there got to be away. I'm 99.9% sure that it's possible but nobody cares to find it .
Any thoughts? Ideas?
Thanks for your input.
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Hi, guys
I think that it's great to have the ability to root your N7 without USB cable and perhaps without PC (like the transformer prime) :laughf course after unlocking your boot loader (unfortunately using PC) there got to be away. I'm 99.9% sure that it's possible but nobody cares to find it .
Any thoughts? Ideas?
Thanks for your input.
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Well, there's an 'exploit' that will ROOT the Nexus 7 without unlocking the BOOTLOADER... but, unfortunately, it still requires a PC and USB cable.
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I remember, several years ago, running something called z4ROOT (which uses the rageagainstthecage exploit) on my Advent Vega..
z4ROOT was an app (an apk, sideloaded) that acquired root by 'exploit'... no cables or PC required. Just run the app, and upon reboot, you're rooted.
So I suspect that what you propose is entirely possible for the Nexus 7... given an 'exploit' is already available.
The 'exploit' runs with the Nexus 7 fully powered up (as normal), cabled to a PC, and with ADB debugging on.... so maybe it's just a case of 'encapsulating' the exploit into an APK, in much the same way as z4ROOT, which ran successfully on my Vega a few years ago.
Of course, I'm just speculating here, as I simply don't have the required level of technical knowledge...
But, I agree... there's got be a way....
Rgrds,
Ged.
All I did was unlock the boot loader using pc, twrp roots the device if its not already rooted.
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keith843 said:
All I did was unlock the boot loader using pc, twrp roots the device if its not already rooted.
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Yeah... straightforward and the standard way of ROOTING (roughly)...
I think what the OP is getting at, is ROOTING without the need for a PC or other cabled encumbrances... just ROOT via app (or maybe some command line in Android Terminal Emulator).
Rgrds,
Ged.
GedBlake said:
Well, there's an 'exploit' that will ROOT the Nexus 7 without unlocking the BOOTLOADER... but, unfortunately, it still requires a PC and USB cable.
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I remember, several years ago, running something called z4ROOT (which uses the rageagainstthecage exploit) on my Advent Vega..
z4ROOT was an app (an apk, sideloaded) that acquired root by 'exploit'... no cables or PC required. Just run the app, and upon reboot, you're rooted.
So I suspect that what you propose is entirely possible for the Nexus 7... given an 'exploit' is already available.
The 'exploit' runs with the Nexus 7 fully powered up (as normal), cabled to a PC, and with ADB debugging on.... so maybe it's just a case of 'encapsulating' the exploit into an APK, in much the same way as z4ROOT, which ran successfully on my Vega a few years ago.
Of course, I'm just speculating here, as I simply don't have the required level of technical knowledge...
But, I agree... there's got be a way....
Rgrds,
Ged.
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I found the app of course it didn't work however it might be a good idea to contact the Dev
I'm pretty sure that app only worked on old devices. Like froyo and down.
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spitfire2425 said:
I'm pretty sure that app only worked on old devices. Like froyo and down.
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I'm pretty sure you're right... but my point wasn't to suggest it could be used on the N7 (in fact, I'm pretty certain it wouldn't work at all), but to highlight it as an example of how 'root by exploit' could be (indeed, has been) encapsulated within an app.
And given an exploit for the N7 already exists... how difficult can it be to turn that exploit also into an app.
Maybe it's not possible at all; maybe I'm talking out of my hat (it wouldn't be the first time)... but it's the only way I can see how the N7 can be rooted without a PC... which is the OPs desired intent.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Some exploits need to run on a PC. The device is "open" when connected to a PC through debugging. The exploits take advantage of that. That's why it is done the way it is.
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almost done !
OK I found a way but there is one BIG problem .
i successfully connected the device to my PC using wireless adb but it's listed as offline because of the RSA whitelist so is there anyway to overcome the RSA checksum .
Please help
Hey. I suddenly have this issue. My phone is starting to refuse copying files sometimes. Don't know why. Including a pic of the error message I get.
Anyone have an idea?
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johnequickiii said:
Hey. I suddenly have this issue. My phone is starting to refuse copying files sometimes. Don't know why. Including a pic of the error message I get.
Anyone have an idea?
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I've had this issue when copying alot of files (gigs at a time). I think it has to do with the time limit you set to lock your phone. Once the timer hits and your phone is locked (meaning you need to enter pin or lockscreen pattern to unlock), it'll disconnect the usb connection as well.
What I tend to do is every once in awhile, I'll tap the screen to make sure it stays on and unlocked. Haven't had this issue since then.
Hope that helps in your case.
It's just strange though. I never had this issue before. Also, it does this when trying to copy playlist files and it started doing it when trying to copy folders. Files were fine, but folders weren't. So weird.
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johnequickiii said:
It's just strange though. I never had this issue before. Also, it does this when trying to copy playlist files and it started doing it when trying to copy folders. Files were fine, but folders weren't. So weird.
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Are you using the OEM USB cable for your transfer? I've got several micro USB cables but only one of them works reliably (the OEM one). It's also possible the OEM cable is going bad if you've had it a while. Maybe you have some extra cables you can test it with?
Surprisingly, I was using it. I used the cable from my EVO 3d for the longest time without issues, but as soon as use the OEM one I start having issues.
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Ok so i did the HTC-Dev Bootloader unlock and root. ok so i have tried firewaters S-Off method and it looks like im not gonna have any problems Except for when i connect my device and open cmd and Type (ADB Devices) usually you get the rsa prompt on your screen asking to approve what you are doing. Theres my issue! i cannot get that prompt at all no matter what i do ive tried diffrent ports ive swapped roms i always have USB Debugging enabled . i have never had this problem before. my note 2 had no problems with its root when i typed ADB devices in cmd. but i do realise i am messing with an htc device.
all drivers are installed. because weird thing is when i type adb devices in cmd it shows my device but does not pop up on my screen!
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Mount your device as file manager and not HTC Sync or whatever
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i forgot to mention that i did that aswell and it kept ignoring the fact that my phone was there
regardless of the permissions not popping up on my phone i went ahead and ran the CMD Commands for a 9th time and repeatedly everytime get these results
The 60 seconds Bllahhh blahh
1st bottle open;
Chugging
OOOPS Sorry we cant screw your phone tonight all the mumbo jumbo
there is somthing im doing wrong and its pissing me off
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regardless of the permissions not popping up on my phone i went ahead and ran the CMD Commands for a 9th time and repeatedly everytime get these results
The 60 seconds Bllahhh blahh
1st bottle open;
Chugging
OOOPS Sorry we cant screw your phone tonight all the mumbo jumbo
there is somthing im doing wrong and its pissing me off
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I would suggest trying a different usb cable and can you get adb version for me and report back?
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how do i determin the ADB version? and i was using the standard htc supplied cable. i will try a samsung cable when i get home today
when i type adb reboot it does respond and does reboot
Type adb version in command prompt
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version 1.0.31
What type of PC are you using, software wise
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i have tried both windows 7 and windows 8.1 pro
Hmmm, you have teamviewer I can check some things on the Windows7 machine to make sure it's correct
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Hmmm, you have teamviewer I can check some things on the Windows7 machine to make sure it's correct
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What do i need to check to ensure its all correct
Command prompt path, Erm adb isn't running in background already , usb cable, correct files you are trying to s off with... Mainly just them things
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you provide me with links on how it should be done the exact way you did it and ill stay on that track
provide me with the files you used to s off and i will creat a folder and put them all in there and press shift and right click and open cmd prompt and do exactly as you did
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provide me with the files you used to s off and i will creat a folder and put them all in there and press shift and right click and open cmd prompt and do exactly as you did
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If you have gotten the whelp this sucks message there is nothing you can do but wait.
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If you have gotten the whelp this sucks message there is nothing you can do but wait.
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I don't think he got that, I think he's having problems keeping adb connection while running the exploit... Though I could be wrong :roll:
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I don't think he got that, I think he's having problems keeping adb connection while running the exploit... Though I could be wrong :roll:
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regardless of the permissions not popping up on my phone i went ahead and ran the CMD Commands for a 9th time and repeatedly everytime get these results
The 60 seconds Bllahhh blahh
1st bottle open;
Chugging
OOOPS Sorry we cant screw your phone tonight all the mumbo jumbo
there is somthing im doing wrong and its pissing me off
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I was interpreting this as the whelp message lol