For modders Only bug rooms STOP - LG Optimus 4X HD

I know that build a rom it's not that easy, and make it stable and fully working it's even harder. I also know that drivers and blobs are closed-source, so it's hard to make a device fully working.
But I wanna give some advice, because who want to mod his phone finds about 30/40 roms all unstable and full of bugs.
In my opinion, it's useless to release a rom if it isn't finished, wifi or bluetooth doesn't work, apps force-close, phone reboots randomly or maybe drinks the battery in 2 hours.
Lags in games, the home screen lags with 3/4 widgets. Maybe after a clean install the rom performs well but then you discover that it's not so good.
Let's not forget also that despite the roms are not finished, many times they aren't update any more to solve the bugs, or they are updated but the bugs remain.
I don't mean that ALL the roms have ALL the bugs, but each rom has at least two of those problems.
Some people may say that there are hardware limits to justify the bugs. Or maybe that the battery has to be changed. But those are only excuses considering that on three pages of roms, ONLY one performs well.
I have always been told “you have to change the battery”, or “the phone has got few ram” to justify the bugs. But why with the FluidRom gType (an Italian rom) I manage 24 hours with a normal usage (mobile data always on, wifi, background apps, little playing with games, several calls, facebook and whatsapp)? No lags in games, home and browser. So I assume that “change the battery” and “we have few ram” are only excuses.
If you release a rom only to show that you are able to develop something but then it’s full of bugs, stop. Don’t release it. Or release it when it performs really well.
The 4X it’s a 2012 flagship phone, but the roms are badly developed. So let’s not blame the hardware.
Some people may say “who forces you to change rom?” People try new roms because modders promise improvements.
Maybe this topic will be closed to restrict freedom of speech. But mine are only suggestions.

Serial67 said:
I know that build a rom it's not that easy, and make it stable and fully working it's even harder. I also know that drivers and blobs are closed-source, so it's hard to make a device fully working.
But I wanna give some advice, because who want to mod his phone finds about 30/40 roms all unstable and full of bugs.
In my opinion, it's useless to release a rom if it isn't finished, wifi or bluetooth doesn't work, apps force-close, phone reboots randomly or maybe drinks the battery in 2 hours.
Lags in games, the home screen lags with 3/4 widgets. Maybe after a clean install the rom performs well but then you discover that it's not so good.
Let's not forget also that despite the roms are not finished, many times they aren't update any more to solve the bugs, or they are updated but the bugs remain.
I don't mean that ALL the roms have ALL the bugs, but each rom has at least two of those problems.
Some people may say that there are hardware limits to justify the bugs. Or maybe that the battery has to be changed. But those are only excuses considering that on three pages of roms, ONLY one performs well.
I have always been told “you have to change the battery”, or “the phone has got few ram” to justify the bugs. But why with the FluidRom gType (an Italian rom) I manage 24 hours with a normal usage (mobile data always on, wifi, background apps, little playing with games, several calls, facebook and whatsapp)? No lags in games, home and browser. So I assume that “change the battery” and “we have few ram” are only excuses.
If you release a rom only to show that you are able to develop something but then it’s full of bugs, stop. Don’t release it. Or release it when it performs really well.
The 4X it’s a 2012 flagship phone, but the roms are badly developed. So let’s not blame the hardware.
Some people may say “who forces you to change rom?” People try new roms because modders promise improvements.
Maybe this topic will be closed to restrict freedom of speech. But mine are only suggestions.
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Haha, there are so many angles i can take on this.
I and the other 4x developers and users don't owe you ANYTHING, dont like our roms? dont use them, Simple. It amazes me some people are so entitled...

Go and make some Roms by yourself we'll see how good they would be .
For your information bringing roms to device in long chain of more people than just our devs
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I know that... TL;DR
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Wow ! Never thought I'd read something like this on the 4X forum !
You're so wrong. So so wrong !
Do you realize that when a dev releases a ROM he does this on his time and (most of the time) he doesn't expect anything in return.
Have you ever tried to build a ROM from source ? To compile ? To fix bugs ? To spend hours developing ? I really doubt since you don't realize what this is and the time it takes.
Moreover, our device is "special". The last official update we had was 4.1.2 and thanks to the dev you criticized we are now at 4.4.2 !!! I'm not sure you realized the work of these devs.
Also you say that we don't have any stable ROM but you're wrong ! For me, "stable" means that you can use the ROM daily and profit of all basic and important features of the ROM therefore there ARE stable ROMs ! Since I'm in charge of Beanstalk 4.4.2 I won't give any name but for having personally tried many customs ROMs I can say that we do have stable ROMs.
Everybody has its opinion but man... You're wrong and some devs may understand your post as an offence.
I hope you see what I'm trying to explain.
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ectoplasma22 said:
Wow ! Never thought I'd read something like this on the 4X forum !
You're so wrong. So so wrong !
Do you realize that when a dev releases a ROM he does this on his time and (most of the time) he doesn't expect anything in return.
Have you ever tried to build a ROM from source ? To compile ? To fix bugs ? To spend hours developing ? I really doubt since you don't realize what this is and the time it takes.
Moreover, our device is "special". The last official update we had was 4.1.2 and thanks to the dev you criticized we are now at 4.4.2 !!! I'm not sure you realized the work of these devs.
Also you say that we don't have any stable ROM but you're wrong ! For me, "stable" means that you can use the ROM daily and profit of all basic and important features of the ROM therefore there ARE stable ROMs ! Since I'm in charge of Beanstalk 4.4.2 I won't give any name but for having personally tried many customs ROMs I can say that we do have stable ROMs.
Everybody has its opinion but man... You're wrong and some devs may understand your post as an offence.
I hope you see what I'm trying to explain.
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Don't worry ecto, we are talking about it in the italian forum where this kind of discussion began.. And we are composing it saying exactly what you're saying right here..hope that it'll stop as a great mistake, and to go on..
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one word, ridiculous

We should change abit this letter and sent it to the LG dev-update department so they can ask @Demetris @laufer @adam @Ectoplasma @JoinTheRealms @SnXo (and many other talented and good people) for help next time they decide to push or even make any software for any LG phone.I know.this guyment to say official software not custom one so i am just correcting his type mistake.
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whoa, easy there, mate...
First of all, I haven't seen an unstable ROM on our phones up till now. I am personally using CM (unofficial) and SlimKat as my daily drivers, and both are rock stable. The only bugs I have personally encountered are the camera (which is extremely hard to properly fix) and the broken reboot into recovery on Slim. And that's it.
All ROMs you find on xda are made for free, you don't need to pay anything, which means you also can't demand anything. Bringing a ROM to a device can take several hours (disregarding the time the pure download of the sourcecode takes), as every ROM needs its special treatment.
Furthermore, do you have any idea how long the pure compile process takes? On my new machine (which I upgraded for development only) needs ~75min for a clean build. Before that, my lappy was working over 8 hours for a clean build...
Saying we devs wouldn't maintain our ROMs isn't really nice, nor what XDA stands for. We do our best to provide you with the best/fully functional stuff, but there are things we can't fix/improve simply because we don't experience these issues. As an example, I am debugging my kernel ATM, and @FunkyRasta and I both run the kernel, however, FunkyRasta is experiencing lags, that I never experienced. So without his reports, I wouldn't even know about that until someone else might encounter it after the release.
@Serial67, nobody forces you to use "unstable" ROMs, but please don't just complain, but rather give some helpful feedback (logs) to help solve the issues. If you're not willing to provide such info (you don't have to), please don't complain.
Thread closed.

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SwiftExtreme Kernel is great!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325183
I have flashed the Kernel the day before yesterday, and got my battery charged to 100%, then un-plugged my charger.
About 34 hours after unplug the charger, with daily normal usage(several phone calls, some reading on web), there are still 38% power remain.
I would like to see a battery usage screenshot showing the "Display" use
Which app can I install for screen capturing?
use the battery monitor widget pro, and you can save your bat history
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Which app can I install for screen capturing?
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If you hit power button and home at same time it should screenshot. Or just post screen on hours
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Has anyone tried it on cm7 stable rom?
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Just found the "down +home" can do screen cap in MIUI. Here is the screen cap.
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Whats the best kernel for stock gb??
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hellbison said:
Whats the best kernel for stock gb??
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HorsePower kernel.
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HorsePower kernel.
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+1
HP kernel is the best kernel with topogigi rom.
Because the kernel is still updated.
Wah! said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325183
I have flashed the Kernel the day before yesterday, and got my battery charged to 100%, then un-plugged my charger.
About 34 hours after unplug the charger, with daily normal usage(several phone calls, some reading on web), there are still 38% power remain.
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Hi, I tried this kernel with CyanogenMod nightly 195, and I found the phone to be laggy as hell. Which ROM were you using?
Thanks. Anil
I have this kernel (older version with owains tweak pack) on miui and my experience has been just wonderful. Excellent standby time, haven't felt my phone heat up even once, no bsod's. I found cm7 to be very laggy in the first place so I moved to miui and boy am I glad. On cm it felt like every new flash it got slower and I was worried it might break. On miui things are so simple, just install miui, reboot and install tweak pack(it includes kernel older version) and your done. Just two steps. If you guys like this kernel please add your feedback to the kernel's page here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325183
i have this kernel on my cm7 (the nightly from today) clocked at 1.5 GHz and i get
#Quadrant Standart:
1st try: 3701 pts
2nd try: 4144 pts
3rd try: 4644 pts
4th try: 4639 pts
#AnTuTu Benchmark v2.4.2:
1st try: 7464 pts
2nd try: 7524 pts
After that i have restarted my phone, because it was getting really hot..
#Smartbench 2011 :
1st try: Failed! (Invalid results - at least one of the test dind't execute throug completely. Please try again.)
2nd test: Failed! (same as above)
3rd test: Failed! (again)
So i think its a very fast kernel !
Before this one, i have used the vorkkernel.. and this has got many bugs with 1.5ghz (e-peen), but this kernel (swiftextreme) is just Great !
retareq said:
I have this kernel (older version with owains tweak pack) on miui and my experience has been just wonderful. Excellent standby time, haven't felt my phone heat up even once, no bsod's. I found cm7 to be very laggy in the first place so I moved to miui and boy am I glad. On cm it felt like every new flash it got slower and I was worried it might break. On miui things are so simple, just install miui, reboot and install tweak pack(it includes kernel older version) and your done. Just two steps. If you guys like this kernel please add your feedback to the kernel's page here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325183
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Hi, I have no issues with CM7. The only reason I was interested in a different kernel was to see if I could get better battery life.
No matter, I will stick with CM7 & the kernel they provide. I found MIUI to be very beautiful, and very well thought out. But, it is an ANDROID version of Apple's iOS' look and feel, plus they imitate the iOS way of doing things.
Have fun. Anil
If you love cm7 then you should know this kernel works for both miui and cm7. Just use it already, its a known fact that this kernel is the shiznit.
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If you love cm7 then you should know this kernel works for both miui and cm7. Just use it already, its a known fact that this kernel is the shiznit.
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Hi, I have used it and found it to be laggy as "shiznit". In fact I tried it again last night, the low overclock version and my phone failed to boot.
You carry on though. Anil
Well you should post your findings in the kernel thread here. How else are we going to find what needs fixing ? I am on an optimus 2x and and the kernel is working almost 100% for me. If I had to guess I would say its because I'm on miui. I have a friend with an o2x with the kernel on cm7 and his experience is also not satisfactory.
I used to love cm7 and think miui is the ios look alike but after using it for few weeks I can tell you its not. I think most people are still thinking of the old miui with iphone icons(things have changed). I will not go deeper into that discussion because this is the page for kernel discussion. We are all entitled to enjoy the kernels and roms we like, but if you are experiencing issues the least you can do is alert the dev in the appropriate page. Please don't take it personally but there are many many cm7 users in the swift kernel thread who have posted their experiences and its opposite of what you are saying.
retareq said:
Well you should post your findings in the kernel thread here. How else are we going to find what needs fixing ? I am on an optimus 2x and and the kernel is working almost 100% for me. If I had to guess I would say its because I'm on miui. I have a friend with an o2x with the kernel on cm7 and his experience is also not satisfactory.
I used to love cm7 and think miui is the ios look alike but after using it for few weeks I can tell you its not. I think most people are still thinking of the old miui with iphone icons(things have changed). I will not go deeper into that discussion because this is the page for kernel discussion. We are all entitled to enjoy the kernels and roms we like, but if you are experiencing issues the least you can do is alert the dev in the appropriate page. Please don't take it personally but there are many many cm7 users in the swift kernel thread who have posted their experiences and its opposite of what you are saying.
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Hi, I have posted my findings here. I find it very laggy. It also failed to boot. There you go two findings.
Why would I take your opinion personally? I'm glad many others have had no issues. Do you only want to hear from users with positive experiences?
If you can make some suggestions as to how best to provide technical feedback then please let me know, and I will be more than happy to do so.
Anil
aksolanki said:
Hi, I have posted my findings here. I find it very laggy. It also failed to boot. There you go two findings.
Why would I take your opinion personally? I'm glad many others have had no issues. Do you only want to hear from users with positive experiences?
If you can make some suggestions as to how best to provide technical feedback then please let me know, and I will be more than happy to do so.
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Yes its not perfect. If it was development would stop right ?
I wanted to make sure I didn't come off as offensive, you will be surprised how many cm7 fanatics are out there who will start yelling the moment they hear miui. I didn't want to sound like im promoting miui but rather the kernel powering it. If you check the last few posts you will see there have been an increase in cm7 users of the kernel and they are reporting good results on the new nightlies.
I would like to point out that with miui I have not upgraded anything in over a month and its still going smooth. I see so many cm7 users with bsod and no boots and bootloops and so on with almost every version that came out they have issues whereas the miui users have barely said anything. I guess coz its works for us ?
I think the best way is to post in the kernel thread in the development area. The developer is regular there so if you have anything at all to add, features you want or fixes to current version etc. please post there. The dev is very friendly and him or someone cm7 user will help you find your match.
Once again this is the original thread please post your results and comments here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325183

Good bye Incredible S thread!

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Yes guys, the time has come (LoL), I put my Incredible S on the market. I planned this for a long time now. My idea was to roll out a fully-working 4.3, which is probably the last Android version, which the Incredible S will run. I'm building and building, hopefully I have a proper 4.3 now with video playback fix, I won't sell my phone, till it won't work.
You may interested, why I wanna sell my phone, and here is the reason:
As we know, the hTC stopped the Incredible S's (and other msm7x30 board's) support after ICS. That means, we need to use the good old 3.0 kernel. The 3.0's support will stop in this October. We have many problems with this kernel's support. The 3.0 kernel doesn't support Jelly Bean specific things, for example the two most important: ION memory-allocator (our 3.0 kernel uses PMEM), and vsync. The vsync would be the smaller problem, it can be disabled easily, but because of the lack of vsync, our Project Butter will never work fully. The second shot into the vsync's head is that we have MDDI screen. This is a screen technology, but because of this, the vsync is impossible to port. But, as I said, the vsync is the smaller problem. The bigger is the ION. As you saw, I got it working with Sense 5. But, the camera will never work with ION on Incredible S, cause it needs a new driver, called "V4L2" (Video for Linux), which is only in the 3.4 kernel branch. To port back this driver, that would take months, and I haven't got enough knowledge to do it.
Because this bloody 3.0 kernel, the Sense 5 issues can't be fixed (at least by me). But the Sense 5 is still the smaller problem. Here is a bigger one, which makes me angry, and that's why I sell my device. For AOSP ROMs, the ION also won't be a problem, we can use it PMEM as well (as you saw), but, and here is the but... Our processor is an earlier revision of MSM8255, which doesn't support something which will be needed by Android 5.0. That means, the 5.0 won't work here, or there is only a small hope to get it working.
This is the reason, and I'm very, very said to sell my device, and I really love it! You may have the idea, why don't we port back a 3.4 CAF kernel to our device, cause they did it to Sony Ericsson and Samsung msm7x30 devices. The reason is, that the hTC has many crap in the kernels. That means, we can't port it, it would be a nearly impossible project. My DEV friend tried it, who much better than me, he has bigger knowledge, and he stopped working on it, cause he said it's impossible.
That means, the Incredible S will probably die with Android 4.3, and Sense ICS. Anyway, it had a great support period, from 2.2 to 4.3. This is quite rare.
As I said, I'll roll out a fully-working 4.3, and I hope that there will be a or some guys who will continue the building!
I'll change to hTC Desire X, which is the cheapest device which got official Sense Jelly Bean with 3.4 kernel. You see, I don't need faster, or stronger device, if the IncS would have a 3.4 kernel, I wouldn't sell it...
About the Sense 5, I gave the permission to S.a.M.e.R_d to use my files, kernel etc... Yeah, he promised that he'll fix the bugs, and he won't let you down. What should I say? I think, may you should give him a new chance, may he is true, and he'll bring bugfixes to The Unimaginable.
At last, I wanna give a huge thanks to the whole Incredible S community!!! You're great guys, I can't thank you enough, that you were with me when my thread was closed, that was a real incredible job! No homo, but I really love you, all of you guys, and I'm said that I need to leave you!
Enjoy the CM10.2 on this amazing which was the first which got Sense JB, which is a huge breakthrough, this device is really amazing, and I love it!
That was all, I hope, you understand, and I hope, I was a part of this community.
I won't go away fully, just slowly, but my first priority is the Desire X now with that bloody 3.4 kernel..
Bye guys, and huge thanks ALL OF YOU!
We love you szezso, the work you have contributed to this awesome community is something that you just cannot express in words. The way you work hard and put in countless hours. The Inc S community are the most privileged community to even recieve a piece of work from a humble developer like you. You will remain forever branded in the Inc S XDA life and hope the Desire X community can only welcome you with extreme kindness and they should know how lucky they are to have someone like you.
<3
Wow. I dont know what to say. I dont know if i am more jelly because desire x has an amazing dev at their disposal and we dont have anybody or that we are most likely not going to be supported anymore, but I guess this was expected..
But, from the bottom of my heart, Thank you so much. You have breathed new life into our phone, and tbh I wasnt expecting 4.3 let alone 5.0.. Although it is sad that Unimaginable will not be fully fixed, I dont really care.. You have done enough for us...
Unfortunately, I will be stuck with this phone until the end of next year, as I am not as rich as some people in this forum (lawl mark)
Once again, thanks so much for your work. I hope the Desire X forum recognises you as much as we did, (or more).
Farewell,
Sent from one of the few remaining Incredible S'
SZEZSO MATE just want to say thanks for what you have done for us, you have taught me a lot, I am sure a lot of people have learnt and been inspired by your work.
Even though you are relatively new to the dev scene its been amazing watching your knowledge grow, from your first ROMs to now being able to boot jb sense and 4.3 on a legacy device
We have seen many people come and go, and we might be losing one of our last true developers
I love you man
And this is for everyone else:
I just want you to know that aside from all the usual suspects you made a huge difference for all the lurkers like myself. Thanks for the dedication!
You are going, and all the Incredibles are orphaned now :crying:
its rly bad news for all of us..v all luv u szezso..watever u did for us is really incredible...as u r leaving this inc s thread ill also sell my inc s...ill miss u nd urs awsum work...feeling really bad...
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I teared up and almost cried :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
This has got to be some of the worst news I've ever read since I rooted my Incredible S. Hopefully Android 4.3 stays fast and snappy until December of next year (since that's when my contract ends and I'm allowed to get a new phone)
Respect to Szeszo!
Maybe, when you get to Desire X, you can work with Cpkv5 (or however you spell it, I forgot ). Help them get their Sense 5 like you so brilliantly gave us Maybe give them AOSP too since I see that many of their AOSP kernels don't have working WiFi and the such.
If the Desire X people doesn't like you, tell us, and we'll go over and fix'em right
SOMEBODY HAND SZESZO HIS RECOGNIZED DEVELOPER TAG. SCREW THE REQUIREMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks a lot Szezo.. You have been amazing for long time now and got me jawdropped when I saw Sense 5.0 and JB 4.3 Rom!! Respect for what all you have learnt and dedicated your time for us. May Desire X forum welcome you with all glory.
All the best for your Future..
It's like Ted is leaving the Stallions.
A huge desaster for us.
But we have to handle it.
Good bye szezso, and thanks for all the fi̶̶s̶̶h̶ ROMs.
Thank you Szezso for all your time you dedicate to our lovely Incredible S! And I think that all of we can courageously change IncS to Desire X, because we know that it will not die, because it will be supported buy great developer!
When you fix the video bug,I can continue to compile the new CM 10.1 or 10.2 rom
Really sad about the fact that such a great developer as you, Szezso, is leaving our community. May the luck and peace be with you and let the community of Desire X kneel down to you! (that was definitely cheesy )
@SZEZSO , Thank you for all you have done to this community
I wish all the best to you
Shock, Oh one of the best developer is leaving from here.
Thank you for all you done for community.
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Thanks guys, I'm very glad to see your comments! I can't say anything, only one thing: HUGE THANKS TO ALL OF YOU, THIS IS A GREAT COMMUNITY!!! If you want to use my new ROMs, the Desire X thread is open for everybody, you'll find me there! :highfive:
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Thank you so much Szezso for all your work on our beloved device!
I know many people have said it but it's true: You are the reason why many of us do not have a new phone.
I hope that cm 10.2 will be fully working like you said so!
Keep in Touch
Well You might be changing your device but you will be keeping in touch. I am sure. And we all are thankful to you and we respect and love you (yeah no homo) haha and we love your work. I wish the unimaginable could get better we all do. but you described the problem pretty much. We all wished it to get fully rnning but I admit even booting sense 5 was a remarkable job.
We will miss you bro.
and as i said keep in touch.
Thank you that was with us. Please renew the kernels here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385808
Thanks=)))
nikitos93053 said:
Thank you that was with us. Please renew the kernels here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385808
Thanks=)))
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What are you talking about? Those are the latest editions there. And the only Android OS that's missing there is 4.3. We only have only 1 4.3 ROM here and that comes default with TESCO V2.9++

Benefits of Omni rom

hi guys i was just wondering if anyone could explain the benefits of Omni Rom?
I have switched continuously between stock and Omni, however i seem to always return to stock mainly because of the screen of death issue and blue screen issues that Omni has.
However, it would be nice to know what benefits Omni has and why i have that urge to always want to try Omni again!
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PeterGeorgiou said:
hi guys i was just wondering if anyone could explain the benefits of Omni Rom?
I have switched continuously between stock and Omni, however i seem to always return to stock mainly because of the screen of death issue and blue screen issues that Omni has.
However, it would be nice to know what benefits Omni has and why i have that urge to always want to try Omni again!
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As an advice, Do not use at all
I used for about a week, and i needed to open my mobile many times to unplug then replug the battery again to make my mobile come back to life, you will see many sudden restarts, and you will see many blue screens.
PeterGeorgiou said:
hi guys i was just wondering if anyone could explain the benefits of Omni Rom?
I have switched continuously between stock and Omni, however i seem to always return to stock mainly because of the screen of death issue and blue screen issues that Omni has.
However, it would be nice to know what benefits Omni has and why i have that urge to always want to try Omni again!
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I think it is simply because either you love flashing and testing new things out or you love the simplicity and AOSP feel. I know I love it. Its also the fact that you've on the latest android version with is super "light" when compared to others. Its very snappy and can multitask like a bull compared to even the 4.3, and no massive themeing or bloatware. And not to forget the multitude of features and customizations you get with the ROM. I personally love the Active Display and I don't know how I lived without it. Anyway if you have the urge, like me, to switch between ROM, CWM backups are the best because setting up a ROM from the beginning is a pain. Another such person is moly82! He too flashes every release!
Ghaiooth said:
As an advice, Do not use at all
I used for about a week, and i needed to open my mobile many times to unplug then replug the battery again to make my mobile come back to life, you will see many sudden restarts, and you will see many blue screens.
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Haha WHAT? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Yes you do see blue screens, but mostly one per day. And even then the phone reboots in under a minute and is back to normal as if nothing happened. Please re-flash and re-evaluate.
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Haha WHAT? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Yes you do see blue screens, but mostly one per day. And even then the phone reboots in under a minute and is back to normal as if nothing happened. Please re-flash and re-evaluate.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me!!
Are you serious??
Is it OK for you to have reboots more than five times a day and this is only for the daily use??!! I did not even try demanding games.
And do you know anything about the need to remove your (non-removable) battery and re-plug it??
Please, if you think my opinion is ridiculous, then give that rom a try, and then give me your own opinion.
I wonder how can you consider your mobile reliable anymore if it will reboot even during playing the silliest and tiniest games ever there.
After all, this is my opinion which you may not agree with, but you are supposed to respect.
Ghaiooth said:
Excuse me!!
Are you serious??
Is it OK for you to have reboots more than five times a day and this is only for the daily use??!! I did not even try demanding games.
And do you know anything about the need to remove your (non-removable) battery and re-plug it??
Please, if you think my opinion is ridiculous, then give that rom a try, and then give me your own opinion.
I wonder how can you consider your mobile reliable anymore if it will reboot even during playing the silliest and tiniest games ever there.
After all, this is my opinion which you may not agree with, but you are supposed to respect.
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Yes. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Respect there. But not to mislead others, you just gave a very uniquely bad experience. Everyone else loves this ROM. I have been on it since the first week of its release. There are loads of other Omni users who will agree with me.
As for the battery removal, i cannot remove mine. Its an XT. Reboots do not occur five times a day, mostly twice! At least not for me. I listen to music constantly with JetAudio which is a heavy app, use Whatsapp all the time, browse with Chrome at least twice a day and many other things. I do not play games though... so I can't say anything about that.
Thank you for the concern guys but you still haven't answered my question what are the benefits of omni against stock???
PeterGeorgiou said:
hi guys i was just wondering if anyone could explain the benefits of Omni Rom?
I have switched continuously between stock and Omni, however i seem to always return to stock mainly because of the screen of death issue and blue screen issues that Omni has.
However, it would be nice to know what benefits Omni has and why i have that urge to always want to try Omni again!
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Advantages: incredibly fast in relation with stock, immersive mode (love it), personalisation, great support, less 3G consumption, latest android version,boot in 27s, and the battery, this is my best, a lot of free RAM(400MB with 35 apps installed by me).
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moliverac8 said:
Advantages: incredibly fast in relation with stock, immersive mode (love it), personalisation, great support, less 3G consumption, latest android version,boot in 27s, and the battery, this is my best, a lot of free RAM(400MB with 35 apps installed by me).
Disadvantages: blue screen, normally one per day, camera is worse than in stock(a lot) ,low sound speaker.
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I have had Omnirom since first tilals build and it was amazing. Since 4.4.2 it becomes more unstable and I sometimes have had more than one reboot. Using my phone as drivers log I really can't use random reboots. The sound is very low, a workaround makes it loud and whistle.
Now I am an stock and yes, it isn't the stable it should be, but there seems to be an update shortly. But stock rom is also very fast, fast enough I guess. A benefit stock rom has is usb otg, a feature I need, too and don't have with OmniRom or Cyanogen Rom.
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I think it is simply because either you love flashing and testing new things out or you love the simplicity and AOSP feel. I know I love it. Its also the fact that you've on the latest android version with is super "light" when compared to others. Its very snappy and can multitask like a bull compared to even the 4.3, and no massive themeing or bloatware. And not to forget the multitude of features and customizations you get with the ROM. I personally love the Active Display and I don't know how I lived without it. Anyway if you have the urge, like me, to switch between ROM, CWM backups are the best because setting up a ROM from the beginning is a pain. Another such person is moly82! He too flashes every release!
Haha WHAT? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard. Yes you do see blue screens, but mostly one per day. And even then the phone reboots in under a minute and is back to normal as if nothing happened. Please re-flash and re-evaluate.
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Not true. I got 3 to 5 blue screens a day on omni. A few times a day my Xperia got stuck on a black screen. For both i had to do a hard reboot (power + volume).
The battery was very bad to for me. It was empty in 10 to 12 hours with 2 hours screen time. With 4.3 i get a day with the same screen on time. Also the camera on stock is a lot better
As long as Sony haven't released the source it's not gonna get much better.
Don't get me wrong. I normally prefer aosp above a stock rom. But this time 4.3 is a lot better.
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harowa said:
I have had Omnirom since first tilals build and it was amazing. Since 4.4.2 it becomes more unstable and I sometimes have had more than one reboot. Using my phone as drivers log I really can't use random reboots. The sound is very low, a workaround makes it loud and whistle.
Now I am an stock and yes, it isn't the stable it should be, but there seems to be an update shortly. But stock rom is also very fast, fast enough I guess. A benefit stock rom has is usb otg, a feature I need, too and don't have with OmniRom or Cyanogen Rom.
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Yes,the OTG and the HDMI don't work,but that are features that not all the people use, this is the best of ROMs, you can choose your best option depending of your needs.
Did you try the nighlties with the new branches?
I have tested stock and Omni feels faster,in my opinion.
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moliverac8 said:
Yes,the OTG and the HDMI don't work,but that are features that not all the people use, this is the best of ROMs, you can choose your best option depending of your needs.
Did you try the nighlties with the new branches?
I have tested stock and Omni feels faster,in my opinion.
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Yes I have tested some homebuilds and after the new branches comes back to the nightlies I also have flashed these builds.
You are right, OmniRom feels faster than stock rom but I can't use the random reboots. I need the drivers log and every reboot is a showstopper I really don't need. A rom should be fast, yes, but it must be stable at all.
I have to say, there is nothing I really miss with stock rom, on the contrary.
r-l said:
Not true. I got 3 to 5 blue screens a day on omni. A few times a day my Xperia got stuck on a black screen. For both i had to do a hard reboot (power + volume).
The battery was very bad to for me. It was empty in 10 to 12 hours with 2 hours screen time. With 4.3 i get a day with the same screen on time. Also the camera on stock is a lot better
As long as Sony haven't released the source it's not gonna get much better.
Don't get me wrong. I normally prefer aosp above a stock rom. But this time 4.3 is a lot better.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Well I think there is no point in arguing about the blue screens because it must certainly depend on the amount usage and kind of usage. As for the battery life, I can get much better battery life.. about 2.5 hours screen time and can last overnight. It would be <14% though.
harowa said:
Yes I have tested some homebuilds and after the new branches comes back to the nightlies I also have flashed these builds.
You are right, OmniRom feels faster than stock rom but I can't use the random reboots. I need the drivers log and every reboot is a showstopper I really don't need. A rom should be fast, yes, but it must be stable at all.
I have to say, there is nothing I really miss with stock rom, on the contrary.
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To conclude,when Sony release the new open source files and the developer use them I recommend you to use Omni, you won't regret.?
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moliverac8 said:
To conclude,when Sony release the new open source files and the developer use them I recommend you to use Omni, you won't regret.?
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I will
if they will support usb otg

[ROM][4.4.4] moto_msm8960 OmniROM

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Overview
OmniROM is pretty close to AOSP, as the 4.4.4 era comes to a close I've decided to post it.
This build has nothing to do with Nobe1976.
It is not his build on Droidrzr forums and was built by me, from source. Although it is likely the same (assuming configs for our device haven't changed much the past year)
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Feb/27/2015: OmniROM 4.4.4
KKBL only for now folks!!!
Source
Device
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_moto_msm8960/tree/cm-11.0
Kernel
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_kernel_motorola_msm8960dt-common/tree/cm-11.0
Vendor
https://github.com/TheMuppets/proprietary_vendor_motorola/tree/cm-11.0
Yes JJBL people, I will build for you, but I need someone to test so OmniROM aside; IF JBBL people want these firmware I will need a tester :<
Just flashed this on my XT926 and the only issue ive had is when going into Settings>More>Mobile Networks>Carrier Settings The process com.android.phone force closes.
nice rom, works fairly well on my razr m. feels lighter than cyanogenmod and other 4.4.x roms.
lol
Do you know about Lollipop? lol
Working really great on my XT925.. I love OmniRom.. Thanks @Tqr
The fact that this base appeared here means MIUI v6 comes soon
Edit: I'm NOT heading MIUI v6 I am only working as an assistant this is not my era to shine; with that being said if I can't get a JBBL volunteer It's not likely JBBL people will get MIUI v6
kkruglov said:
nice rom, works fairly well on my razr m. feels lighter than cyanogenmod and other 4.4.x roms.
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A lot of people use my MIUI or other fork builds but don't really have the chance to use my source-builds which are almost always nearly 'perfect' (I don't usually post them)
Some compatibility takes a huge hit after I start chopping stuff to pieces so I just wanted to throw this up for people who are the opposite of the MIUI/Lewa/Whatever crowd and just want something as close to 'stock' android as possible.
Tqr said:
but don't really have the chance to use my source-builds which are almost always nearly 'perfect' (I don't usually post them)
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why?
kkruglov said:
why?
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It would annoy me if someone ported a ROM I had planned to work on using a base I built.
Tqr said:
The fact that this base appeared here means MIUI v6 comes soon
Edit: I'm NOT heading MIUI v6 I am only working as an assistant this is not my era to shine; with that being said if I can't get a JBBL volunteer It's not likely JBBL people will get MIUI v6
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Looking forward to see MIUI v6! Loved MIUI even since my evo 3d. Hope it comes soon
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dulexetina said:
Looking forward to see MIUI v6! Loved MIUI even since my evo 3d. Hope it comes soon
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Me too but my build configs are currently not working correctly for some devices.
It's kind of problematic on my end at this point because the past two builds of (pretty much) AOSP have resulted in failure for some unknown reason; even with supported configs.
At the same time to bring a close-to-AOSP ROM to this firmware I had to make a lot of changes in source; changes which may have caused breakage upon building for some devices so I've had to revert everything for this specific build which will probably set the process back a day or two.
But I don't want to sound over-important; the person heading v6 could have(and has) done this fully on their own power without issue and I am really contributing nothing except for build related stuff which isn't even essential It's just to save them time because a lot of time was saved in my life during v5.
It's like they say, someone does something for you and you do something for them if you can; a capacity I'm kind of failing in right now because a lot of the devices I'd like to see get hit with v6 do not have proper source bases
Thanks, very smooth... can you add HDR feature?
ikromy said:
Thanks, very smooth... can you add HDR feature?
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Maybe, I have to address JBBL right after I finished with the device I'm building for right now.
Like a true piece of scum I neglected the JBBL folks during v5 because I wasn't aware of the exacts surrounding it and frankly was too lazy/busy to produce it.
But from here out all of my builds will also accomodate JBBL now that I know how to deal with it.
I mean it's really like a friend of mine said; that it's better to release broken things at first because If you release something right the first time your topic won't have as many views and as much attention but I've always kind of been a black sheep with my preference for (nearly fully) functional first releases
Edit: I can do MIUIv5 for JBBL if people really still care about it but I'd rather focus on getting things ready for V6, and other projects I'm working on
It's really important that ANY errors with this code-base are brought to my attention , I really do not want to find out there is some inherent error in this when V6 is released It's really important that I do this right so I don't have to bother the developer of it to do yet another build on a rebase.
I feel like I've really annoyed people because I've had multiple peers/friends/co-workers/whatever download firmware that somehow 'wasn't right' this week
Do it. It's been awhile. And that miui phone overseas is killing em softly. I'm on jbbl now to start fresh but if you decide to put out v5 I'll try it. I am ecstatic about v6 to try out.. I will be trying the omni for now. I need a real stable ROM at the moment.
Get lolly miui for mb886.
manuski said:
Do it. It's been awhile. And that miui phone overseas is killing em softly. I'm on jbbl now to start fresh but if you decide to put out v5 I'll try it. I am ecstatic about v6 to try out.. I will be trying the omni for now. I need a real stable ROM at the moment.
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MIUI v6 is now nearly fully functioning on moto_msm8960 JBBL & KKBL, including V6 camera, scanner and all the other stuff you'd expect.
Unlike being a PatchROM build this is a direct adaptation from a Xiaomi device so there is a level of exclusivity here.
I really don't have the right to release this, It will be part of a friends multi-base thread; It'll show up at some point next month, hopefully.
I wanted to let people who are really anticipating being able to use V6 know that the codebase is finished; it does have all the features you'd expect on true stock MIUI that have never been ported (In this era):
- MIUI camera (Everything, including filters, panorama, fast&slow-motion recording mode...)
- MIUI Scanner (Everything)
- Nearly full native Xiaomi drivers (!)
- Everything, all features
TecknoFreak said:
Get lolly miui for mb886.
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It's being worked on as well, but 4.4 takes priority because it is literally almost finished.
Tqr said:
MIUI v6 is now nearly fully functioning on moto_msm8960 JBBL & KKBL, including V6 camera, scanner and all the other stuff you'd expect.
Unlike being a PatchROM build this is a direct adaptation from a Xiaomi device so there is a level of exclusivity here.
I really don't have the right to release this, It will be part of a friends multi-base thread; It'll show up at some point next month, hopefully.
I wanted to let people who are really anticipating being able to use V6 know that the codebase is finished; it does have all the features you'd expect on true stock MIUI that have never been ported (In this era):
- MIUI camera (Everything, including filters, panorama, fast&slow-motion recording mode...)
- MIUI Scanner (Everything)
- Nearly full native Xiaomi drivers (!)
- Everything, all features
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This is great to hear man! Now I want to try it even more.Can't wait till next month...release it tomorrow MIUI 5 was great,simple and smart,just hope that v6 is gonna be same or even better.
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Honestly I straight up lied.
MIUI v6 boots with full function except RIL- Because of the nature of this work all builds have been kept closed. I will check with the head of development and ask if beta may begin.
If anyone here feels strong in development and can address RIL both the KKBL and JBBL can have this firmware in the very forseeable future. It's because we use some kind of fked up Generic RIL and I'm not sure where to play Xiaomis invasive code because It's so different.
I do not even know how this device handles RIL in the 4.4 era, if anyone has an understanding of this please be in touch.

Nexus 6 - Stock, AOSP, CM and Blends

OK so I know everybody had different experiences but I thought I'd share mine and see what others are experiencing .....
Currently running Multirom
Primary -- Android N
Secondaries Tried -- Pure Nexus, Stock Lite, UberStock, and couple others
The N ROM is just a bit buggy and although there are apparently work arounds I can't get many apps to work. Fairly fluid but not "snappy".
Stock Lite has interestingly been the most steady but requires Cat mod to get the bare minimum Moss that I like.
Weirdly enough despite Pure Nexus being so popular, it and a few other AOSP builds have just not been as reliable. I just got a phone call on PN and the screen wouldn't come on until several power button pushes.
UberStock was snappy but it just irritates me to not have a text percentage battery.
The CM builds of various authors usually have their bugs.
Any thoughts? Or share experiences ..... Not necessarily of a specific ROM but more of thoughts Stock, vs AOSP, vs CM etc
Certainly don't want to insult any developers .... Their shared work is appreciated
jcrompton said:
OK so I know everybody had different experiences but I thought I'd share mine and see what others are experiencing .....
Currently running Multirom
Primary -- Android N
Secondaries Tried -- Pure Nexus, Stock Lite, UberStock, and couple others
The N ROM is just a bit buggy and although there are apparently work arounds I can't get many apps to work. Fairly fluid but not "snappy".
Stock Lite has interestingly been the most steady but requires Cat mod to get the bare minimum Moss that I like.
Weirdly enough despite Pure Nexus being so popular, it and a few other AOSP builds have just not been as reliable. I just got a phone call on PN and the screen wouldn't come on until several power button pushes.
UberStock was snappy but it just irritates me to not have a text percentage battery.
The CM builds of various authors usually have their bugs.
Any thoughts? Or share experiences ..... Not necessarily of a specific ROM but more of thoughts Stock, vs AOSP, vs CM etc
Certainly don't want to insult any developers .... Their shared work is appreciated
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running pure nexus myself. generally, I like staying with aosp builds. but, user experience can be heavily effected by whatever the user installs or mods. like your power button issue, that can happen because of an app, a theme, or a mod. not because the ROM doesn't like it, but becauseany apps, themes, or mods are not made by professionals, but by amateurs.
stock, I usually am on for the first hour to a max of a couple days after getting a nexus. then its usually an aosp build. CM, or CM based ROMs I stay very far away from. I used to be the biggest CM fanboy years ago, but CM is not the CM that used to be. now they are different, as are their goals.
stock+xposed+gravity box and other modules? you don't really need custom roms anymore, having said that I prefer aosp, cm not even once
sgloki77 said:
stock+xposed+gravity box and other modules? you don't really need custom roms anymore, having said that I prefer aosp, cm not even once
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Do you ever have or feel like xposed slows things down .....? It's been a while since I've tried
simms22 said:
running pure nexus myself. generally, I like staying with aosp builds. but, user experience can be heavily effected by whatever the user installs or mods. like your power button issue, that can happen because of an app, a theme, or a mod. not because the ROM doesn't like it, but becauseany apps, themes, or mods are not made by professionals, but by amateurs.
stock, I usually am on for the first hour to a max of a couple days after getting a nexus. then its usually an aosp build. CM, or CM based ROMs I stay very far away from. I used to be the biggest CM fanboy years ago, but CM is not the CM that used to be. now they are different, as are their goals.
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Thanks
have all these modules working on pure nexus, snappy as usual
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Since the introduction of Lollipop, I really haven't felt the need to flash a custom ROM.
Stock ROM has always worked great for me, I use root for a few things like Greenify and Xposed, but I stopped using those as well.
On my N6:
Stock ROM - Best so far. Sometimes I don't even use root. Excellent battery life, no bugs and great performance.
PureNexus - Great ROM, however the CMTE version was a bit buggy when I used it. No disrespect to the devs, they're doing an excellent job.
CyanogenMod - My second choice, always. Nightly builds are stable in most ways, I'm using one right now and it's working great with a custom theme and a few mods installed.
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simms22 said:
I used to be the biggest CM fanboy years ago, but CM is not the CM that used to be. now they are different, as are their goals.
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Can you elaborate a bit on this?
Everything seems the same to me.
I got my Nexus last year. I ran several kind of custom roms. Most of them dont last longer then a few hours. The one i am using the most and always go back to is Lite Rom. It has everything that i need and is stable, good battery life and just works. Sometimes i feel like the builders just try to put too many things into the rom and it can be confusing. I like to keep it simple and clean.
@murtaza02: I'm not @simms22, but I can provide some insight here. Back before Android hit version 4, Cyanogenmod was "king of custom ROMs". They were on the cutting edge, with lots of features that simply weren't available in Google's stock Android. This was done not for money, but out of love of Android. A few years ago they incorporated and now offer a commercial alternative to Android. Afterward they pretty much stopped innovating, especially after the Focal fiasco.
Cyanogenmod strayed from its roots, looking to get paid money rather than respect.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@murtaza02: I'm not @simms22, but I can provide some insight here. Back before Android hit version 4, Cyanogenmod was "king of custom ROMs". They were on the cutting edge, with lots of features that simply weren't available in Google's stock Android. This was done not for money, but out of love of Android. A few years ago they incorporated and now offer a commercial alternative to Android. Afterward they pretty much stopped innovating, especially after the Focal fiasco.
Cyanogenmod strayed from its roots, looking to get paid money rather than respect.
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Yes I recall during the time that this was going on there were several very heated discussions that took place here on XDA. The bottom line though 4 those of us not in the know basically I just noticed that cm ROMs definitely changed
Once they incorporated is when the innovation stopped, as that is when they changed focus away from what brought them to the attention of everyone in the Android community. Instead of making a "better" Android, they settled for simply making Android. The Focal fiasco cost them, in that they lost many of their freelance developers, and lost a lot of respect from the community at large.
To this day I don't put Cyanogenmod on my devices, because Cyanogenmod left the building a long time ago.
To be honest I stopped using CM and CM based roms years ago. While it has a little o do with their business model it was mostly due to the fact that there are bugs that have been around for years that were never fixed. Then they merge in code without testing it which has been known to cause huge issues.
I prefer roms built from AOSP which there are very few. I also never go for what is popular. To be honest to many people are sheep and follow the crowd. (yes even in android) I prefer to try some out and make up my own mind. And then I stick with it.
Honestly, I ditched Cyanogenmod because they stopped being innovative. It goes hand in hand with them incorporating, because the profit motive overrides everything else. Profit first, last, and always.

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