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oleophobic coating?

Does xperia z has oleophobic coating or any kind of coating?
From experience of xperia T, scratch easy with stock screen protector, taking off screen protector attracts finger prints and smudges. Also hard to get off unless use glass cleaner. The glass has a resistant vs oleophobic coating.
With Galaxy S3 oleophobic coating, its smooth and easy to get finger prints off without glass cleaner.
It will be a deal-breaker for me, as much as i love the design and material on xperia z.
Some kind gentleman take off screen protector and tell me how is the glass it self feels like? does it feels like the xperia T?
I dont care about which glass is stronger, i want a smooth screen without screen protector.

tvp480 said:
Does xperia z has oleophobic coating or any kind of coating?
From experience of xperia T, scratch easy with stock screen protector, taking off screen protector attracts finger prints and smudges. Also hard to get off unless use glass cleaner. The glass has a resistant vs oleophobic coating.
With Galaxy S3 oleophobic coating, its smooth and easy to get finger prints off without glass cleaner.
It will be a deal-breaker for me, as much as i love the design and material on xperia z.
Some kind gentleman take off screen protector and tell me how is the glass it self feels like? does it feels like the xperia T?
I dont care about which glass is stronger, i want a smooth screen without screen protector.
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It is the same glass. So I think it should feel about same.
Xperia Z ruined for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GzYnDnZDRg

They apply a shetterproof film on the screen. If you don't want it - you can replace it with any other screen protector - or apply a second one on it. It doesn't affect looks or screen responsivness - so what's the problem here ?

Jeez... I think I might cancel my pre-order. How could they get this so wrong?!

mwatson said:
Jeez... I think I might cancel my pre-order. How could they get this so wrong?!
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This video is about Xperia T. There is no evidence that Xperia Z is the same other than "she said so".
Also, a shatterproof film is suddenly a bad thing...i'm confused

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Akiainavas said:
This video is about Xperia T. There is no evidence that Xperia Z is the same other than "she said so".
Also, a shatterproof film is suddenly a bad thing...i'm confused
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If you've been using a mobile phones which include a oleophobic coating for 5 years its quite a backwards step to use one without. The screen is the interface to the eye and the finger after all. Did you see the way that screen protector got scratched?
Personally I don't like screen protectors, for others that don't mind then all is good
Some people like salted nuts, others dry roasted. Nothing too confusing I hope! :silly:

mwatson said:
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If you've been using a mobile phones which include a oleophobic coating for 5 years its quite a backwards step to use one without. The screen is the interface to the eye and the finger after all. Did you see the way that screen protector got scratched?
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I honestly don't care as i always use a screen protector and am quite used to them. If i can have both antishatter and antiscratch protectors on at the same time, without compromising display's clarity and responsiveness - it's even better.
Having just glass would be nice - but i don't believe in Gorilla Glass anymore. Had 3 phones with GG1/2 and they all got scratched very easily before i started to use protectors - so yeah, if you don't like screen protectors, Xperia Z might not be the best option as it most likely will scratch without one due to not-so-scratch-resistant antishatter film.

Akiainavas said:
I honestly don't care as i always use a screen protector and am quite used to them. If i can have both antishatter and antiscratch protectors on at the same time, without compromising display's clarity and responsiveness - it's even better.
Having just glass would be nice - but i don't believe in Gorilla Glass anymore. Had 3 phones with GG1/2 and they all got scratched very easily before i started to use protectors - so yeah, if you don't like screen protectors, Xperia Z might not be the best option as it most likely will scratch without one due to not-so-scratch-resistant antishatter film.
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TBH the best thing is to go into a "3" store and have a look. They already have them on display in some stores.

mwatson said:
I think I might cancel my pre-order.
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You shouldn't be on the internet if you made that decision just by that video.

brambizimski said:
You shouldn't be on the internet if you made that decision just by that video.
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You must be a school child with comments like that

If you look carefully in videos on youtube it would seem that the back of the handsets attract more prints. Perhaps the front and back use different layers on the glass.
Bare in mind these are all pre-production models.
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brambizimski said:
You shouldn't be on the internet if you made that decision just by that video.
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mwatson said:
You must be a school child with comments like that
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Guys, don't do this, seriously...

Akiainavas said:
Guys, don't do this, seriously...
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Sure.. Ended! maybe someone who has seen one in the flesh can confirm if it has one of these weird build in screen protectors on?

mwatson said:
Sure.. Ended! maybe someone who has seen one in the flesh can confirm if it has one of these weird build in screen protectors on?
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Yes it does have it on. You can see it here:
3 UK Hands on
I'm pretty sure that all Sony phones have had it on though.

Akiainavas said:
They apply a shetterproof film on the screen. If you don't want it - you can replace it with any other screen protector - or apply a second one on it. It doesn't affect looks or screen responsivness - so what's the problem here ?
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Screen looks and touch experience is my problem. I had both, xperia T, S3 and note 2. S3 screen looks very nice, feels very nice and smooth. I use swype, so i swipe alot. Using xperia T is nice too, but its not the same experience as oleophobic coating on it(S3).
If xperia z has the same glass as the xperia T, then its a deal breaker for me.
Hoping Xperia Z will be using a different glass and some kind of coating under that stock screen protector.
Note- I dont use screen protector, so replacing stock screen protector doesnt work for me.
Waiting patiently for a retail version Screen review.

Here's a good durability test from a different sony device. Hmmm seems pretty durable to me....
This negates the Xperia T video posted few posts back.
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Here's a good durability test from a different sony device. Hmmm seems pretty durable to me....
This negates the Xperia T video posted few posts back.

Riyal said:
Here's a good durability test from a different sony device. Hmmm seems pretty durable to me....
This negates the Xperia T video posted few posts back.
This negates the Xperia T video posted few posts back.
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note screen size and device name Xperia ACTIVE

Still note that Xperia is still Xperia. Unless Sony decides to downgrade their screen technology... And size may affect durability but not in that type of tests.

mwatson said:
You must be a school child with comments like that
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Come on guys, it did ruin Xperia Z for me too. BTW gorilla glass's purpose is to prevent shattering. Oleophobic layer is done above it and that catches scratches. Same vlogger did a detail video explaining Gorilla Glass's myths of being scratch proof.
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From all the prototype xperia z, it seem like it uses the same screen as xperia T. Hopefully it doesnt use the same screen as xperia T. I had both phone and xperia T is disappointing. If its the same screen then its a deal-breaker. Still waiting for retail, Somehow xperia z upgrade there phone, dont put on stock protector and put a layer of oleophobic on it, they they score gold. If not, then lots of people will be disappointing, unless your a screen protector type.

Removing Anti Shatter Screen Film

Looks like it leaves too much residue on the Gorilla glass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GzYnDnZDRg
Anyone done theirs?

merseyman said:
Looks like it leaves too much residue on the Gorilla glass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GzYnDnZDRg
Anyone done theirs?
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As soon as i get any sony phone out of the box i remove the factory fitted screen protecter.
The screen looks better without it, the screen is tougher than the protector so always looks better as it does not get scratched.
I keep my phone in mypocket with car keys and loose change, my screen has not a single scratch on it, but the screen protectoer always gets scratched and attracts dust....Its my one and only complaint about the phones

gregbradley said:
As soon as i get any sony phone out of the box i remove the factory fitted screen protecter.
The screen looks better without it, the screen is tougher than the protector so always looks better as it does not get scratched.
I keep my phone in mypocket with car keys and loose change, my screen has not a single scratch on it, but the screen protectoer always gets scratched and attracts dust....Its my one and only complaint about the phones
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¿How about the finger oil the girl talks about?. It seems the bare screen is much harder to keep acceptably clean.

I aint taking mine off.
And i put the provided screen protector on, still feels good.
.....might put another one on to protect the 2nd one

Arcano said:
¿How about the finger oil the girl talks about?. It seems the bare screen is much harder to keep acceptably clean.
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It's easier to keep clean than the screen protector, it's more responsive, collects less dust, and does not get scratched like the screen protector does.
If you do it, you won't go back to using one
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I aint taking mine off.
And i put the provided screen protector on, still feels good.
.....might put another one on to protect the 2nd one
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Each to their own, I can only share my experiences and opinions with you, however my wife did that to her T when she got it and IMHO made the screen dim, was less responsive and attracted dust a lot
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gregbradley said:
It's easier to keep clean than the screen protector, it's more responsive, collects less dust, and does not get scratched like the screen protector does.
If you do it, you won't go back to using one
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I don't like or use screen protectors either, that's why I'm interested in taking it off or not.
However the thing that worries me is how "oily" it remained when the girl removed it.
Right now it certainly attracts dust like crazy, but a quick rub with my sleeve and it's clean again. In the video however seems that the bare crystal is not so easy to clean off.
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R: Removing Anti Shatter Screen Film
My Xperia T was not "oily" at all when I removed the screen protector. It was perfect. Just get comfortable while trying to make the first peel, because it may send you nuts.
I started from the narrow strip above the earpiece hole, used a stitch needle to weaken the protector plastic (the glass won't get any scratches from it) and then managed to lift it off the surface... it then came away easily.
Without the screen protector, I don't have dust on it anymore (i think it's electrostatically attracted by the protector). It is more oily, for sure, but the oil makes your finger slip better on the screen, and I like that.

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My Xperia T was not "oily" at all when I removed the screen protector. It was perfect. Just get comfortable while trying to make the first peel, because it may send you nuts.
I started from the narrow strip above the earpiece hole, used a stitch needle to weaken the protector plastic (the glass won't get any scratches from it) and then managed to lift it off the surface... it then came away easily.
Without the screen protector, I don't have dust on it anymore (i think it's electrostatically attracted by the protector). It is more oily, for sure, but the oil makes your finger slip better on the screen, and I like that.
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Same for me.
I removed it 3 seconds using a needle then peeled it off, cleaned with dishwasher rinse aid (innovative alternative for proper glass cleaner) on a micro-fibre cloth.
Screen is so much better. Crisper, less dust and I'm not really getting finger print marks; same as with protector.
Glad I took it off and did the same with my X10. You do wonder though why Sony don't use top grade glass on most of their phones. Strange.

I happen to like the feeling of the screen protector it's super ultra smooth but sadly as we all know super easy to scratch I think mine retained it's scratched from a little bit of pocket lint and some bubble gum rappers kinda makes you think WTF Sony WTF any how it doesn't look like she truly cleaned the screen proper and what we all want to know is what the phone is really like with out the glued on screen protector ?
What is it made of is it any thing like my Xperia arc which doesn't feel so great after I use it with my dirty work hands but if actually clean it feels alright.
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I won't take mine off. Last time I did that to my arc s, my screen received lots of scratches.
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I have to say that the built-on proctector does not feel good to me. My finger could not glide well at all. For the moment I have put the thinnest screen protector I had for the T and that has made a world of difference.
Just a question. If Sony use some kind of shatter-proof glass (Corning's gorrilla or Asahi Dragontail (don't they make beer too?)) why do they stick a thick sheet on top. Makes me think it is not very shatter proof!
Who makes the glass for the T?

It is Corning Gorilla Glass, according to a Sony rep on Sony Mobile Forum
A follow up to the girls video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2qdwsFd-Qw
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But do we beleive that?
Most Gorilla glass customers state they are using it, the same way they tell you the manufacturer of the processor.
The white paper for the xperia T that came out in Sept.(ver 3) just says:
"Shatter-proof sheet on scratch-resistant glass"
Gorilla glass is shatter proof as well as scratch resistant

After noticing that the screen protector on my V was literally covered with probably 100+ microscratches from being in my pocket all the time, I went ahead and took it off. The screen looks much better now, but gets much greasier than before. No big deal, it's just like my old phone. What I really don't like, however, is that I lost my Sony logo, as it was printed on the screen protector and not the handset itself.

wow, that is a real suprise, I wonder where Xperia and Sony are printed on the T, any comments from those who took it off?

icstm said:
wow, that is a real suprise, I wonder where Xperia and Sony are printed on the T, any comments from those who took it off?
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¿Haven't you seen the video on the first post?. Your question is answered there, look around 6:25.

Arcano said:
¿Haven't you seen the video on the first post?. Your question is answered there, look around 6:25.
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Makes you laugh doesn't it...!

icstm said:
But do we beleive that?
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You may be right, the post at Sony Mobile were a Sony guy states it is Gorilla Glass, has been deleted.
Emailed Corning but they can't disclose info because of a privacy clause.

gsmarena state it as shatterproof and scratch resistant glass ( http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_t-4899.php )
i dont like the screen protector but as i have only had the phone for like 6 hours in going to keep it on for now

Well Sony make a distinction between the two.
"Shatter-proof sheet on scratch-resistant glass"
I did not like the sheet, so I stuck a proctector on top that that feels much better.

Scratch on my front screen

Annoying problem, any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Thin scratch on my front screen. Still have the original screen protector on but I can see a rainbow effect when on a white background. Not sure how I picked it up because so far have been real careful with it.
Will removing the Sony branded screen protector affect my warranty? What should I do now to protect my screen? Obviously it isn't scratch proof!!!
Can I buff it out?
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Before you remove it on your own, maybe you should ask on service, if they can replace it for you. Maybe they will replace it for you for free... Also they will tell you, how is with warranty, if you remove it. Otherwise, there are SO many threads regarding screen protector removing etc. And this screen protector is not for protect it against scratches, it's known about it that it is shatter proof protector!

But is there a scratch proof and shatter proof one. Thanks for the reply
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Sunnychad said:
But is there a scratch proof and shatter proof one. Thanks for the reply
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Scratch resistant is the glass. Shatter proof is the sheet on top. There is no additional "scratch proof" layer
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Sunnychad said:
Annoying problem, any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Thin scratch on my front screen. Still have the original screen protector on but I can see a rainbow effect when on a white background. Not sure how I picked it up because so far have been real careful with it.
Will removing the Sony branded screen protector affect my warranty? What should I do now to protect my screen? Obviously it isn't scratch proof!!!
Can I buff it out?
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The screen protector you are talking about is a shatter proof sheet, not a scratch resistant. Thats why some comes with a screen protector included in the box.

I removed the shatter proof "screen protectors" after getting some scratches on them, as per the instructions in the manual. Can't imagine they'd do anything to void your warranty considering it's in the manual.

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I removed the shatter proof "screen protectors" after getting some scratches on them, as per the instructions in the manual. Can't imagine they'd do anything to void your warranty considering it's in the manual.
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I don't know where you are seeing this, but there are no such instructions in my manual

Are you talking about the bundled screen protector that you put on yourself?

Did you apply a protection film?

did you apply a protection film?
I didn`t and I can see some small scratches on my device...
also, can you suggest me a good protection film for xperia z?

There Is a pre installed shatter proof film.
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There Is a pre installed shatter proof film.
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but it gets very easily scratched :S
I already had a few small scratches

I suggest you try one of the various cheap hard plastic screen protectors that are available. This cost only a few dollars so you can change them once every one or two months. That's what I do with my Note II

I think the point wawyed was making was your device is not scratched, the pre-installed film is.
There are quite a few threads on this exact topic already.... you can remove the pre-installed film if you wish - but you may loose your Sony logo. There are a few good replacement films out there (Spigen)
Bottom line: remove the stock film and replace, or leave the stock film - and put yet another one on top of it.

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I think the point wawyed was making was your device is not scratched, the pre-installed film is.
There are quite a few threads on this exact topic already.... you can remove the pre-installed film if you wish - but you may loose your Sony logo. There are a few good replacement films out there (Spigen)
Bottom line: remove the stock film and replace, or leave the stock film - and put yet another one on top of it.
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I read some informations on the net, but I` think the pre-installed one is a different kind of film
I was thinking about using a normal film over the pre-installed one

masanosuke said:
did you apply a protection film?
I didn`t and I can see some small scratches on my device...
also, can you suggest me a good protection film for xperia z?
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I had applied 3M Vikuiti ADQC27 to Xperia Arc S, S, T, TX and I ordered one more set for tomorrow when I get XZ. I was very pleased with this screen protector, but tomorrow I'll decide on which one to apply them: 3M or the 2 that come in the package (I ordered extra package with dockingstation, smartTags and screen protector). And yes, I put it over the preinstalled one :good:.

Where did you ordered the extra package?

get a set of these and be done with it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2222928

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but it gets very easily scratched :S
I already had a few small scratches
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The back of my phone has a couple of hairline scratches - I presume it's because of the bolts near my jeans' pocket. But the screen is fine so far. :victory:

Do you think that will be available a screen protector like the anti-shatter film that Sony put on the phone? It's scratching very easy and I'm thinking that if something similar will be available then I will remove the one from Sony and put that one. On other Xperia phones is available this kind of screen protector?

vibecatalin said:
Do you think that will be available a screen protector like the anti-shatter film that Sony put on the phone? It's scratching very easy and I'm thinking that if something similar will be available then I will remove the one from Sony and put that one. On other Xperia phones is available this kind of screen protector?
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I think the chance of that happening is 1%, but I am surprised that companies haven't brought screen protectors with the sony logo/text.
Also a thing Sony could do is to bring out a services to re-apply the anti shatter sheet for us, specially since it scratches so easy.
Anyways, the reason why I don't see it happening is because the anti shatter sheet is being applied by a device, it needs to fit perfectly or it might lose it's function. Screen protectors can be applied by men, because it's only there to protect the device from scratches and such, not to stop the screen from shattering, even though normal screen protectors also do that, but on a smaller scale.

1. There is no screen protector with Sony logo because of patent / copy rights. It would be very expensive to get the right to use the logo.
2. Sony already offers the service to replace the anti shatter film. Costs about 20 bucks
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20 bucks is not much but I think is not ok to charge me that money for a piece of anti shatter film that scratches very very easily, I've put an cheap film and I will look for a better one in the future to preserve this anti shatter , but extremely scratching film from Sony. That's a huge minus for them. A gorilla glass would be a perfect solution, too bad that Sony didn't think of that. But I still love the phone

I'd prefer to completely remove the anti shatter film, but something is still holding me back. Maybe it's because I payed some hard earned money for that thing, whatever don't wanna argue about that here.
I did not put any other protection film on my XZ. I think it's odd to have two on you display and to be honest there is nothing compared to real glass. the feeling is way better... still don't wanna argue 'bout that.
so I have no protection on my display and I do not use a case... "this guy is an idiot" ...I will buy one soon; I promise. For now I use a little bag where I used to keep my sunglasses. Btw Krussel has some nice covers. "get to the point dude!" ...I keep my XZ in a sidepocket of my jacket and there is nothing else in that pocket and stil I got a few scratches on my display. It does not bother me at all. You have to look very closely to see them. What I am trying to say is that the anti shatter film scratches very easy and as far as I remeber there is gorilla glas underneath... so close, yet so far. I can live with that... for now. Someday I will take it off anyway. I just love my plain black XZ without any logos. LOL, I used to put a little piece of dark tape on my old s2, just to cover up the logo.

[Q] Anti shatter film

i know about the anti shatter film having the logo on the front i might remove it anyway since there are scratches, is there any way for a replacement even if it is not official? and also is there anti shatter film on the back glass and if so is the logo on the glass or the back protective film? thanks

mystertom101 said:
i know about the anti shatter film having the logo on the front i might remove it anyway since there are scratches, is there any way for a replacement even if it is not official? and also is there anti shatter film on the back glass and if so is the logo on the glass or the back protective film? thanks
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In the back glass the Sony and Xperia logo wont be removed but in front yes only the Xperia logo and u will face difficulty to remove the anti shatter film its so hard i have done that with a knife took about some hours of work

Meni30 said:
In the back glass the Sony and Xperia logo wont be removed but in front yes only the Xperia logo and u will face difficulty to remove the anti shatter film its so hard i have done that with a knife took about some hours of work
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thank you for your help the back one came off after about 5 minutes after i got momentum lol now for the front one

I personally do not know why people didn't invest in a regular screen protector for the front and back. So the one Sony provides won't get scratched. I personally am a screen protector kind of guy.
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Avantiel said:
I personally do not know why people didn't invest in a regular screen protector for the front and back. So the one Sony provides won't get scratched. I personally am a screen protector kind of guy.
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well the back one doesn't need one in my opinion looks better without it