Hello everybody,
so now this is my first posting.
I took an advantage on ebay to get me a near new I9000 for a low price. I was interested to see how Android smartphones
work, what is inside and how to customize.
In between time and after reading much about ROM's and Kernels and so on i decided to go for the CyanogenMod ROM by pawitp.
When i finally got my I9000 to my surprise it was already rooted and had a CM11 flavor onboard.
So i took the chance and made a backup and did a full wipe etc.. and got the latest Nightly (2014_04_22) and the gaaps up
and running quite nicely.
No problems so far.
Everything is fine except the in-call volume on the handset.
Speaker volume and headset volume seem quite o.k. and are manageable through DSP Manager .
However, the earpiece volume is maxed-out but still much lower than on my stock S3 mini, which was given to me by my employer.
Stock and beyond any rooting or so...understandable?
So i read a lot and tried various apps (one after the other) (Voodoo sound, Volume+ to name two) as recommended here.
No avail. Volume of the earpiece seems to be quite a different beast.
What i did not try, and hopefully will not have to, are Meltus Volume hacks or manipulating values by the service codes.
So, does anybody have an idea if the CM11 will get around this problem one day or the other?
I do not want to use another ROM nor do i feel i want another Kernel to mix with.
Perhaps this thread is obsolete, so please put me into the right direction if so.
Or, maybe someone who is allowed to do so can transport this Q into the ROM thread of pawitp.
Thank you all for you attention and have a nice day.
fa-schmidt said:
Hello everybody,
so now this is my first posting.
I took an advantage on ebay to get me a near new I9000 for a low price. I was interested to see how Android smartphones
work, what is inside and how to customize.
In between time and after reading much about ROM's and Kernels and so on i decided to go for the CyanogenMod ROM by pawitp.
When i finally got my I9000 to my surprise it was already rooted and had a CM11 flavor onboard.
So i took the chance and made a backup and did a full wipe etc.. and got the latest Nightly (2014_04_22) and the gaaps up
and running quite nicely.
No problems so far.
Everything is fine except the in-call volume on the handset.
Speaker volume and headset volume seem quite o.k. and are manageable through DSP Manager .
However, the earpiece volume is maxed-out but still much lower than on my stock S3 mini, which was given to me by my employer.
Stock and beyond any rooting or so...understandable?
So i read a lot and tried various apps (one after the other) (Voodoo sound, Volume+ to name two) as recommended here.
No avail. Volume of the earpiece seems to be quite a different beast.
What i did not try, and hopefully will not have to, are Meltus Volume hacks or manipulating values by the service codes.
So, does anybody have an idea if the CM11 will get around this problem one day or the other?
I do not want to use another ROM nor do i feel i want another Kernel to mix with.
Perhaps this thread is obsolete, so please put me into the right direction if so.
Or, maybe someone who is allowed to do so can transport this Q into the ROM thread of pawitp.
Thank you all for you attention and have a nice day.
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It might be the highest limit to the i9000 (It's an old phone, at least appreciate it for even running). However, I suggest you do change your ROM once, just to check if it is a problem with your ROM. If you do change, I suggest trying Paranoid Android or OmniROM. At times, the Kernel might also make a change. If again you do want to change your Kernel, I suggest Semaphore 3.4.3 or Mackay Kernel
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It might be the highest limit to the i9000 (It's an old phone, at least appreciate it for even running). However, I suggest you do change your ROM once, just to check if it is a problem with your ROM. If you do change, I suggest trying Paranoid Android or OmniROM. At times, the Kernel might also make a change. If again you do want to change your Kernel, I suggest Semaphore 3.4.3 or Mackay Kernel
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Thank you for the answer.
Sure: You are right it is an "old" phone.
And i appreciate the work of the volunteers to keep it up and running.
Hopefully i will find the time during the next days to follow your advice.
Maybe i will even try to go back to stock and check how the phone behaves in it's original environment.
At the moment i am puzzled by another problem. I miss FM radio so much.
Seems as if this feature is missing in a whole lot of ROMs because of massive changes of the "ekosystem" to put it in my words.
But this is not the thread for that. I have to read and learn a lot.
Again, thank you.
Regards,
Frank
fa-schmidt said:
Thank you for the answer.
Sure: You are right it is an "old" phone.
And i appreciate the work of the volunteers to keep it up and running.
Hopefully i will find the time during the next days to follow your advice.
Maybe i will even try to go back to stock and check how the phone behaves in it's original environment.
At the moment i am puzzled by another problem. I miss FM radio so much.
Seems as if this feature is missing in a whole lot of ROMs because of massive changes of the "ekosystem" to put it in my words.
But this is not the thread for that. I have to read and learn a lot.
Again, thank you.
Regards,
Frank
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About the Radio thing, I think you can download another Radio app like this one. If that doesn't work, I'm guessing then Radio might be disabled in your ROM. Semaphore has the option of enabling or disabling FM Radio.
Gokulbalram said:
About the Radio thing, I think you can download another Radio app like this one. If that doesn't work, I'm guessing then Radio might be disabled in your ROM. Semaphore has the option of enabling or disabling FM Radio.
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Ah, yes. I see. Thank you. Looks like Spirit2 from the play store.
I'll have a look into the reviews.
Regards,
Frank
fa-schmidt said:
Ah, yes. I see. Thank you. Looks like Spirit2 from the play store.
I'll have a look into the reviews.
Regards,
Frank
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You. Must. Try. OmniROM. You. Will. Love. It.
fa-schmidt said:
Ah, yes. I see. Thank you. Looks like Spirit2 from the play store.
I'll have a look into the reviews.
Regards,
Frank
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Any news yet?
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Any news yet?
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Yes.
I went back to the stable release CM10.2 .
Somewhere on the internet i found a free beta from Spirit2 and installed it just for a test.
It did not run smooth but i could grab FM and listen by speaker and headphones.
What made me nervous is the "speaker damage" disclaimer...
As for the in-call volume: With 10.2 it seems to be louder.
Headphones and speaker are fine but earpiece (or handset?) still is a bit quiet for to use in noisy environments.
But anyway. Before taking further action i test a while.
I want to use this phone as a private phone when i am on commissioning jobs. I often work at industrial sites and since i am not allowed
to make any private calls off my companies' S3 mini i thought it was a good idea to carry a relatively cheap and reliable smartphone
with me.
Besides the academical aspect to know what makes a smartphone work i want a useful and stable operating system without any bloatware.
I will keep in touch with the CM11 thread and from time to time check if they finally achieve a stable release.
Maybe a shoot a second SGS off ebay just to look after OMNI ROM as you suggested. :laugh:
By now i will stay with the CM10.2 and see if it is stable.
And yes, i am going to root my wifes's Xperia Pro
Thanks again for your attention!
Regards,
Frank
fa-schmidt said:
Yes.
I went back to the stable release CM10.2 .
Somewhere on the internet i found a free beta from Spirit2 and installed it just for a test.
It did not run smooth but i could grab FM and listen by speaker and headphones.
What made me nervous is the "speaker damage" disclaimer...
As for the in-call volume: With 10.2 it seems to be louder.
Headphones and speaker are fine but earpiece (or handset?) still is a bit quiet for to use in noisy environments.
But anyway. Before taking further action i test a while.
I want to use this phone as a private phone when i am on commissioning jobs. I often work at industrial sites and since i am not allowed
to make any private calls off my companies' S3 mini i thought it was a good idea to carry a relatively cheap and reliable smartphone
with me.
Besides the academical aspect to know what makes a smartphone work i want a useful and stable operating system without any bloatware.
I will keep in touch with the CM11 thread and from time to time check if they finally achieve a stable release.
Maybe a shoot a second SGS off ebay just to look after OMNI ROM as you suggested. :laugh:
By now i will stay with the CM10.2 and see if it is stable.
And yes, i am going to root my wifes's Xperia Pro
Thanks again for your attention!
Regards,
Frank
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Xperias are a tough nut to crack. But, you will have fun rooting it. It took me 3 days (Spent 4 hours each) to get root and Install CM on an Xperia Arc S!
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Gokulbalram said:
Xperias are a tough nut to crack. But, you will have fun rooting it. It took me 3 days (Spent 4 hours each) to get root and Install CM on an Xperia Arc S!
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I got me another i9000 for cheap.
Running OMNI KitKat for now with nightly build.
That is a really nice ROM with a smooth feel and just as customizable as a an average user with passion for android can manage.
So thank you, Gokulbalram for the hint.
fa-schmidt said:
I got me another i9000 for cheap.
Running OMNI KitKat for now with nightly build.
That is a really nice ROM with a smooth feel and just as customizable as a an average user with passion for android can manage.
So thank you, Gokulbalram for the hint.
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Try Neo Kernel along with it! (Why'd you get two? *Starts laughing*)
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Try Neo Kernel along with it! (Why'd you get two? *Starts laughing*)
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I need one cellphone for "productive use". Means that is has to work.
So to try something, and run the risk of having software or hardware problems for a few days, i need another device.
Plus it is nice to see how official CM11 and official OMNI CM11 compete.
At the moment i would say that OMNI is a little bit upfront. I am going to ask my son to put his SIM card to
it and try out and see if it is stable.
fa-schmidt said:
I need one cellphone for "productive use". Means that is has to work.
So to try something, and run the risk of having software or hardware problems for a few days, i need another device.
Plus it is nice to see how official CM11 and official OMNI CM11 compete.
At the moment i would say that OMNI is a little bit upfront. I am going to ask my son to put his SIM card to
it and try out and see if it is stable.
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At the moment, my i9000 runs Omni's latest nightlies. Also, I've flashed Neo Kernel. It's very smooth without much noticeable lag.
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Hello XDA,
It's been a while since I've gone through the whole process of finding a good rom. I'm running Gingerbread still, a variant of DarkyRom_3.4.1 currently. Flash works great. Probably going to miss that. But it's getting slow. I need a reinstall.
Plus, cracked my screen. Bezel edges and corners are also torn up. Paid $140 for new screen and replacement rear back/bezel/case http://www.ebay.com/itm/281265794618?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
So, anybody spend time testing ROMs in the last month? What's new, stable, and clean? I've skimmed the rom list, but nothing beats interactive testing. For looks, I want AOSP but can't decide if I want TW with Apex or Nova, or CM 10.1 like SuperNexus. Trying for speed, fluidity, no bloat.
What have people settled on lately? Opinions are all I ask
How horrible is Flash compatibility now? I tried flash on a Nexus 4 on latest (4.4.2?) and it wouldn't play firstrowsports.eu or projectfree.tv so that's kind of a bummer...
Any suggestions would be great! Don't want to spend a full week testing roms and rewiping my phone..I don't have a second to use while I play with my Note, and I'm kinda busy with work lately to wipe my phone over and over.
Another question while I'm at it... Is a nandroid backup taken with my outdated CWM going to restore OK after I upgrade? Thinking I'll be ok.
Thanks :good:
If you are too lazy to test yourself then stay on stock rom.
Why should other members do the work for you and write here - which is simply a best rom thread and so against XDA rules (reading them might help you).
And: many members who cooked or developed roms spent a lot of time doing this and making good threads, tutorials and instructions. So please use these and pay a little respect to them by doing so.
ThaiDai said:
If you are too lazy to test yourself then stay on stock rom.
Why should other members do the work for you and write here - which is simply a best rom thread and so against XDA rules (reading them might help you).
And: many members who cooked or developed roms spent a lot of time doing this and making good threads, tutorials and instructions. So please use these and pay a little respect to them by doing so.
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Thanks for taking the time to tell me I'm lazy. I work hard, thank you very much.
Why should other members "do the work for me"? Well, without trying to justify anything, I've answered questions for other people, simply out of the kindness of my being, just because I know the answer. Last time I put in the effort of testing rom after rom, I shared my knowledge. I'm sure there's other people out there like me. I mean, with your methodology, we should all be told to go Google it...which is akin to telling someone to go shove it.
If you've put in the effort of trying roms, and you have the time to leave me a helpful response, and you don't consider it "working for me", I'd appreciate it.
At the moment im on c-rom kitkat its pretty fast and have alot of options. Its not touchwiz . Everyone has their own likings so flash one if you dont like flash another. End of story. I did what you did before asking for best roms and at the end i pick a rom no one mention in the thread in my own phone
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AryaMod v5 TW 4.1.2
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I've been using the OmniROM variants lately and found them to be slightly faster than TW-based ones. Right now I'm on Asylum OmniROM Naughties 4.4.2 and it's been pretty stable and zippy so far. Battery life is same as with TW. Not sure about Flash compatibility as I don't use it. As for nandroid backups, I recently read that you need to restore using the same kernel/recovery as you used when you made the backup. Not sure if that's true or not, but something to keep in mind if you're jumping from ROM to ROM.
AryaMod 5.5 is the best rom right now and has Flash support enabled by default. Every JB (or even KITKAT) version can handle Flash if you sideload Flash Player apk and a compatible Browser (Like Firefox). The stock, Samsung browser have Flash support enabled without any hack.
galaxynote2 said:
AryaMod 5.5 is the best rom right now and has Flash support enabled by default. Every JB (or even KITKAT) version can handle Flash if you sideload Flash Player apk and a compatible Browser (Like Firefox). The stock, Samsung browser have Flash support enabled without any hack.
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Thanks for your reply, as well as the others. I'll be giving AryaMod a go.
I [and many others] really wish samsung would publish the hardware composer and other needed source for AOSP builds....It seems like I keep loving the AOSP interface more. Paranoid is awesome. AOKP helps little things. CM features are also great. Together, perfect.
For me, Stunner 2 is GUI perfect. Functionality missing though. Of course, need that hardware acceleration. Can't use my Vulkano (Hava). Can't watch Top Gear without transcoding from MKV.
On another "note" (no pun intended lol), does anybody know a 5.3" or larger phone that is 100% AOSP friendly?
Xperia Z-Ized this great rom
I have a meaningful update!
I found a new phone, and it's going to be cheap, and very new because it's about to be released.
Check out the OnePlus One, http://oneplus.net/ $300 / $350 middle of May supposedly.
Hello guys,
I use AryaMod V7 for a week. It´s a very fast,stable,battery friendly and smooth ROM with S5 theme. Also with S-Pen apps
I have an Atrix HD, rooted, with unlocked JB bootloader, and I've also done the MAXX battery MOD. I haven't had this phone long and it seems to be a bit laggy, and a battery hog on the stock firmware. I am not partial to JB or KK so I am pretty open to suggestions. All I am looking for is SPEED, STABILITY, and BATTERY LIFE, and of course the LEAST amount of bugs possible. TY all in advance! :good:
ROM recommendation posts are a dime a dozen around here, and the answer is always the same: figure it out for yourself by browsing the development forums for your phone, and flash the one that fits what you want.
Thanks
Dr. Orange said:
ROM recommendation posts are a dime a dozen around here, and the answer is always the same: figure it out for yourself by browsing the development forums for your phone, and flash the one that fits what you want.
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Thanks but thats what I've been doing for the past almost 2 weeks now. I only asked because there is ALOT of developement already for this device and it looks like EVERYTHING is buggy as Hell so far so I was really looking for a USEFUL suggestion. But thanks a bunch.
FireWire22 said:
Thanks but thats what I've been doing for the past almost 2 weeks now. I only asked because there is ALOT of developement already for this device and it looks like EVERYTHING is buggy as Hell so far so I was really looking for a USEFUL suggestion. But thanks a bunch.
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No, not everything is buggy as hell. The majority of them run just fine and are good enough for daily drivers. If you installed one, you'd see for yourself.
I understand that you want a perfect ROM but there isn't one. You've gotta take what minimal bad there is with the good. Even stock ROMs have bugs.
The best advice is to flash a ROM that sounds good and see if you like it. Hell, that's half the fun!
Thanks Dr. Orange
Dr. Orange said:
No, not everything is buggy as hell. The majority of them run just fine and are good enough for daily drivers. If you installed one, you'd see for yourself.
I understand that you want a perfect ROM but there isn't one. You've gotta take what minimal bad there is with the good. Even stock ROMs have bugs.
The best advice is to flash a ROM that sounds good and see if you like it. Hell, that's half the fun!
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I understand what you are saying, and I have been checking them out, I'm on CM11 now, and have tried Holoblur, and a couple others. I've went through this with literally 13 devices now so I'm not new to this. I was simply asking the community for the best ones that they have used from their experience. I have asked this question on XDA about all of my other devices and normally people respond with just what I said before. Its just a lot easier when I can narrow it down between a handful of ROMs that are DD material.
What has been your favorite so far Doc?
Ah yes! Had to make sure you weren't just asking for the best instead of researching for yourself! I guess I could've been a little more helpful from the beginning...
My most important feature is pie controls, second is tied with customizing options and battery, So right now, carbonROM is perfect for me. I'm running the 8/04 jbbl build and it works great.
I have the MAXX battery mod so battery isn't as important, but I still want it to last all day.
Team Gummy works well too. The only build for our jbbl phone that works is the April build 2.0. It's light and battery life is good too. Also has pie, not as many customizable options.
Those are my KitKat choices, I'm not sure of the 4.3 Roms other than the last time I had a 4.3 PAC ROM installed it worked really well with excellent battery life. 4.3 Roms are arguably the most refined, but development has shifted towards KitKat obv.
That's pretty much all I know.
Awesome!
Dr. Orange said:
Ah yes! Had to make sure you weren't just asking for the best instead of researching for yourself! I guess I could've been a little more helpful from the beginning...
My most important feature is pie controls, second is tied with customizing options and battery, So right now, carbonROM is perfect for me. I'm running the 8/04 jbbl build and it works great.
I have the MAXX battery mod so battery isn't as important, but I still want it to last all day.
Team Gummy works well too. The only build for our jbbl phone that works is the April build 2.0. It's light and battery life is good too. Also has pie, not as many customizable options.
Those are my KitKat choices, I'm not sure of the 4.3 Roms other than the last time I had a 4.3 PAC ROM installed it worked really well with excellent battery life. 4.3 Roms are arguably the most refined, but development has shifted towards KitKat obv.
That's pretty much all I know.
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That my friend is exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much for the input... I will definitely try your recommendations next. I also did the MAXX MOD on mine the other day with the EB40 battery and cutting of the inner frame, but just like you I definitely want it to be able to last all day. Lol, I know there is no perfect ROM, I just didn't wanna be crack flashing for the next couple months with as many nice sounding ROMs there are for this phone. Either way, your info is extremely appreciated, and thanks for the heads up on Gummy. I typically look at a ROM's OP first to look at the features then look through the last couple pages to see if and what issues it may have. It just got frustrating bc MOST posts end with people all talking about their damn RAZR's in the wrong forum lol. So thank you very much Doc.
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Ah yes! Had to make sure you weren't just asking for the best instead of researching for yourself! I guess I could've been a little more helpful from the beginning...
My most important feature is pie controls, second is tied with customizing options and battery, So right now, carbonROM is perfect for me. I'm running the 8/04 jbbl build and it works great.
I have the MAXX battery mod so battery isn't as important, but I still want it to last all day.
Team Gummy works well too. The only build for our jbbl phone that works is the April build 2.0. It's light and battery life is good too. Also has pie, not as many customizable options.
Those are my KitKat choices, I'm not sure of the 4.3 Roms other than the last time I had a 4.3 PAC ROM installed it worked really well with excellent battery life. 4.3 Roms are arguably the most refined, but development has shifted towards KitKat obv.
That's pretty much all I know.
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4.3.1 unified build from 1 Feb 14 works well and has decent battery life with the battery mod, best battery life i have seen so far was on ATT's stock pre-heartbleed fix revision.
Thank you very much as well palm beach. I'm on Gummy 2.0 now (the one that works) that the doc suggested and I love it aside from some random systemui force closes so I think I will try your suggestion next lol.
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Hey guys, been using cryogen on my nook for years now, and while I personally believe that it is much faster than stock, it always seems to eventually bog down, and run slow. While there might be an issue with apps or something else I'm doing wrong that keeps slowing down my nook that's not the MAIN purpose of this forum. I'm looking for the best build and settings to get the most out of my nook. Currently i'm running a recent nightly build with CM11, but was thinking about switching to snapshot for a more stable release. There are two things I want to know before doing this:
1. what is the fastest and most stable build available? I've heard in forums about a liquidsmooth build, slim builds, and obviously used nightlys but which is the best? Also CM10 or CM11 does it matter which?
2. What is the best settings for max performance? On nightly I can use the governor to up the CPU, and I know there's a ram setting, but what about the I/O scheduler? whats the optimal setting for this? Also whats the best map performance settings AND what is the best settings for performance/battery for when i'm not playing games but maybe just web browsing.
ONE FINAL NOTE:
There was a time where I enjoyed spending a week tweaking roms and trying to make experimental roms work but now I don't have time. SO what I'm looking for is a STABLE rom that doesn't need much tweaking and can simple be installed through CWM, and either the basic settings to max performance, or a third party program that will do it for me.
PS: these forums have been good to me these past years so I want to also shout out to everyone that contributes and say thank you.
Others may have differing opinions but I have tried all ROMs available and they all have their ups and downs. The nook hd + is a serviceable tablet and well worth what I paid for it but I have given up on the idea of finding a perfect configuration. My nook performs well enough at the moment to prevent my cheap nature from buying another tab.
That being said I am getting my son a nvidia shield tablet for Christmas so he will have to share
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Others may have differing opinions but I have tried all ROMs available and they all have their ups and downs. The nook hd + is a serviceable tablet and well worth what I paid for it but I have given up on the idea of finding a perfect configuration. My nook performs well enough at the moment to prevent my cheap nature from buying another tab.
That being said I am getting my son a nvidia shield tablet for Christmas so he will have to share
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I whole-heartedly agree with everything you said.
Except for the part about sharing your son's Christmas present. Good luck with that!
Better than nothing
Given that the first two reply were utterly useless I figured I would post what I have found so far. . . A rom called SlimKat is the fastest rom for the nook hd+ I personally have found. I was hoping that others would post USEFUL information to this forum reguarding other ROMS rather than just stating that the nook is limited (which everyone that owns one already knows hints why were are here in the first place). But if you too are looking for a fast rom try here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-hd/development/rom-dev-slimkat-4-4-4-build-8-1-t2894247/page6
I've yet to tweak it, so i'm not sure if there is a govenor on there or a way to improve how the RAM is used. And I still have no clue what an I/O scheduler does, but I didn't see one on this rom.
Useless, honest, whatever
Try mokee in original android development section. Nightlies are active, pretty stable , and it is interesting. Yes it is in Chinese at first but you can change language
I like slim kat but I get freezes when streaming videos for long periods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761812
mcord11758 said:
Useless, honest, whatever
Try mokee in original android development section. Nightlies are active, pretty stable , and it is interesting. Yes it is in Chinese at first but you can change language
I like slim kat but I get freezes when streaming videos for long periods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761812
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That's probably fixed in the LiquidSmooth F2FS version (Pg. 5 of the LS thread), as it uses different PVR source. FWIW.
I actually find asking to be a moot point.
The roms will act differently according to your needs and uses. One rom may work well for someone and not well for another who's use of it constantly goes up against a bug or other problem. Or maybe you just won't like it.
Short story, just do a full recovery backup of what you currently use and then try the others. When you like one try it for a week. If you dislike it just restore the full backup of your choice - if you make full backups of each of them you can go back to any quite fast just the way you left it.
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The roms will act differently according to your needs and uses.
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And hardware (revisions). Take two identical tabs, install identical ROMs using identical methods, and get two different results. One crashes and reboots, the other never does. On a third the battery life suffers or the WifFi misbehaves.
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Short story, just do a full recovery backup of what you currently use and then try the others. When you like one try it for a week. If you dislike it just restore the full backup of your choice - if you make full backups of each of them you can go back to any quite fast just the way you left it.
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And of course, be prepared to restart and repeat the entire process. Because sooner or later you're going to install something that will sour the milk. Or you just like doing it because it's just so much fun!
jb0756: I've tried them all. The variables are staggering. It's amazing these things work as well as they do.
mcord11758 said it best. The HD+ is ... "serviceable."
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Or you just like doing it because it's just so much fun!
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If its not up your alley then don't go there. There are things in the ocean and a breeze in the air.
Long time Android user here. I'm debating on whether or not I'd like to pull the trigger and root/flash a custom ROM to my brand new Nexus 6 (seriously, still has that new-phone smell). My girlfriend and I both got these beauties the same day and love them to pieces.
However...
Coming from a rooted/customized S3 and M7 I'm already missing the customization features that rooting devices allowed. Although I wouldn't have any issues doing so, I'm a bit concerned with potential bugs that could occur while using custom ROMs.
For instance, when I bought my M7, before I rooted it, the call quality was phenomenal. Then after rooting/flashing a custom OS, the quality seemed to drop substantially. No matter which ROM/kernel sets I used, there were always data and/or performance issues including, but not limited to, Pandora app skipping even when data (LTE) was at max reception.
I'm not asking which custom ROM is better as that would be a "to each their own" situation. I've, personally, been a fan of Liquid Smooth and ran it as a daily driver for my S3 (and ViperOne for my M7), but from what I've seen in the development pages there are quite a few ROMs I'd like to try out.
I wanted to see what people who've already rooted and flashed custom ROMs thought of their Nexus 6 post-awesomizing. Did the call quality change? Other than listed ROM bugs, were there any frequent issues that continued through various ROMs and kernel combinations?
Thanks, in advance, to anyone and everyone who replies!
Cheers,
Blue
bb2si said:
Long time Android user here. I'm debating on whether or not I'd like to pull the trigger and root/flash a custom ROM to my brand new Nexus 6 (seriously, still has that new-phone smell). My girlfriend and I both got these beauties the same day and love them to pieces.
However...
Coming from a rooted/customized S3 and M7 I'm already missing the customization features that rooting devices allowed. Although I wouldn't have any issues doing so, I'm a bit concerned with potential bugs that could occur while using custom ROMs.
For instance, when I bought my M7, before I rooted it, the call quality was phenomenal. Then after rooting/flashing a custom OS, the quality seemed to drop substantially. No matter which ROM/kernel sets I used, there were always data and/or performance issues including, but not limited to, Pandora app skipping even when data (LTE) was at max reception.
I'm not asking which custom ROM is better as that would be a "to each their own" situation. I've, personally, been a fan of Liquid Smooth and ran it as a daily driver for my S3 (and ViperOne for my M7), but from what I've seen in the development pages there are quite a few ROMs I'd like to try out.
I wanted to see what people who've already rooted and flashed custom ROMs thought of their Nexus 6 post-awesomizing. Did the call quality change? Other than listed ROM bugs, were there any frequent issues that continued through various ROMs and kernel combinations?
Thanks, in advance, to anyone and everyone who replies!
Cheers,
Blue
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The problem with HTC and Samsung devices, is that they are not truly open source. For a "dev" to get an AOSP ROM built for those devices can be quite an ordeal and can require many hacks to be made and many bugs will be found trying to get the AOSP source code to fit that device... The Nexus does not have this problem as AOSP is designed for it. Even a monkey could compile a bug free AOSP rom for the nexus, so don't worry about that sort of thing.
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The problem with HTC and Samsung devices, is that they are not truly open source. For a "dev" to get an AOSP ROM built for those devices can be quite an ordeal and can require many hacks to be made and many bugs will be found trying to get the AOSP source code to fit that device... The Nexus does not have this problem as AOSP is designed for it. Even a monkey could compile a bug free AOSP rom for the nexus, so don't worry about that sort of thing.
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That's quite a relief to read. So there hasn't been any known issues with the call quality suffering? That is my biggest concern as with my HTC (post root/flash) the call quality was horrendous! It sounded like the person on the other line was constantly mumbling. The quality on the Nexus 6, as of now, is so crisp and clear it sounds as if they're sitting right next to me.
I'll definitely be looking forward to trying out the various ROMs available.
bb2si said:
That's quite a relief to read. So there hasn't been any known issues with the call quality suffering? That is my biggest concern as with my HTC (post root/flash) the call quality was horrendous! It sounded like the person on the other line was constantly mumbling. The quality on the Nexus 6, as of now, is so crisp and clear it sounds as if they're sitting right next to me.
I'll definitely be looking forward to trying out the various ROMs available.
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Yep, with a nexus those sort of issues should be a thing of the past. HTC are particularly bad as on teh M7, they themselves couldn't even get GPE to run properly (Speaker quality took a tumble).
Also, you may not know but Xposed framework just came out with an Alpha. In a short while, it wil get more stable and modules will get updated for Lollipop, meaning you will probably be able to add much of that customisation without changing from the stock rom.
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Yep, with a nexus those sort of issues should be a thing of the past. HTC are particularly bad as on teh M7, they themselves couldn't even get GPE to run properly (Speaker quality took a tumble).
Also, you may not know but Xposed framework just came out with an Alpha. In a short while, it wil get more stable and modules will get updated for Lollipop, meaning you will probably be able to add much of that customisation without changing from the stock rom.
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I've heard of the manufacturer UI's getting in the way of performance with devices. I'm glad I went with the pure Google goodness this time! I'll keep an eye on Xposed, but I think you've helped my decision in rooting today.
Now to impatiently wait for work to be over and rush home to my laptop!
bb2si said:
I've heard of the manufacturer UI's getting in the way of performance with devices. I'm glad I went with the pure Google goodness this time! I'll keep an eye on Xposed, but I think you've helped my decision in rooting today.
Now to impatiently wait for work to be over and rush home to my laptop!
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Good luck.
It is also my personal recommendation that you don't use a toolkit and you use fastboot natively..
rootSU said:
Good luck.
It is also my personal recommendation that you don't use a toolkit and you use fastboot natively..
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Always do! Already have links saved to my email for how-to's and how-not to's.
Thanks for your input!
bb2si said:
Long time Android user here. I'm debating on whether or not I'd like to pull the trigger and root/flash a custom ROM to my brand new Nexus 6 (seriously, still has that new-phone smell). My girlfriend and I both got these beauties the same day and love them to pieces.
However...
Coming from a rooted/customized S3 and M7 I'm already missing the customization features that rooting devices allowed. Although I wouldn't have any issues doing so, I'm a bit concerned with potential bugs that could occur while using custom ROMs.
For instance, when I bought my M7, before I rooted it, the call quality was phenomenal. Then after rooting/flashing a custom OS, the quality seemed to drop substantially. No matter which ROM/kernel sets I used, there were always data and/or performance issues including, but not limited to, Pandora app skipping even when data (LTE) was at max reception.
I'm not asking which custom ROM is better as that would be a "to each their own" situation. I've, personally, been a fan of Liquid Smooth and ran it as a daily driver for my S3 (and ViperOne for my M7), but from what I've seen in the development pages there are quite a few ROMs I'd like to try out.
I wanted to see what people who've already rooted and flashed custom ROMs thought of their Nexus 6 post-awesomizing. Did the call quality change? Other than listed ROM bugs, were there any frequent issues that continued through various ROMs and kernel combinations?
Thanks, in advance, to anyone and everyone who replies!
Cheers,
Blue
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It's Nexus man The best dev support is available for Nexus devices All ROMs has bugs and you'll have to bear with it. But the ROMs for Nexus devices meet stable version sooner than others. Taking Parandroid Android as an example. Visit their website and you'll be able to find that the main team focus on the Nexus line and they've legacy team to support other devices. I was also an user of S3 (Exynos variant) and PA used to be a great custom ROM for me
SAW_JOK3R said:
It's Nexus man The best dev support is available for Nexus devices All ROMs has bugs and you'll have to bear with it. But the ROMs for Nexus devices meet stable version sooner than others. Taking Parandroid Android as an example. Visit their website and you'll be able to find that the main team focus on the Nexus line and they've legacy team to support other devices. I was also an user of S3 (Exynos variant) and PA used to be a great custom ROM for me
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Yes I suppose a caveat to what I have already said, there will still be bugs on roms due to devs making customisations and you will see their bugs potentially. When I say bug free, I'm just talking about a clean AOSP rom affecting the fundamentals of the device.
rootSU said:
Yes I suppose a caveat to what I have already said, there will still be bugs on roms due to devs making customisations and you will see their bugs potentially. When I say bug free, I'm just talking about a clean AOSP rom affecting the fundamentals of the device.
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Yeah. The awesome dev support is the only thing which made me to ditch Note 4 And I'm evidencing that custom ROMs has less Major bugs than stock ROM LOL :silly:
bb2si said:
That's quite a relief to read. So there hasn't been any known issues with the call quality suffering? That is my biggest concern as with my HTC (post root/flash) the call quality was horrendous! It sounded like the person on the other line was constantly mumbling. The quality on the Nexus 6, as of now, is so crisp and clear it sounds as if they're sitting right next to me.
I'll definitely be looking forward to trying out the various ROMs available.
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I'm currently running Euphoria OS on my N6. It is based on CM12, and offers a lot of customization options without actually having to enable root. I've been running it for almost a month now, and I have yet to feel a need to go into Developer Options and flip the switch for root access.
From a call quality standpoint, we are all running the same radio versions, so it will come down to your area. I work in an area where T-Mobile is spotty (my building specifically, LTE is stupid fast outside of it) and so I'm eagerly awaiting the update which adds WiFi Calling to AOSP. As it stands now, my phone does activate HD Voice and show an indicator icon in the dialer when I'm on with another T-Mobile user.
Maybe I can use this to convince my girlfriend to let me root hers, as well. She's never had an unlocked device before and she's very cautious about it, but I'm sure I could convince her.
Thanks again, all!
Quick question, does any one have a good recommendation on a guide to root my n6 I don't want to use a tool kit because I'm hearing its better to do root through fastboot if that's correct. I've been rooting phone for some time now but I've only dealt with fastboot once before with an HTC device. All my other devices where s2 to s5. And I usually used chainfires tool kits. So could someone please set me in right direction as far as guides go? Thanks
beachbum40 said:
Quick question, does any one have a good recommendation on a guide to root my n6 I don't want to use a tool kit because I'm hearing its better to do root through fastboot if that's correct. I've been rooting phone for some time now but I've only dealt with fastboot once before with an HTC device. All my other devices where s2 to s5. And I usually used chainfires tool kits. So could someone please set me in right direction as far as guides go? Thanks
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If you already have TWRP installed, just flash SuperSU. It used to require an insecure boot image due to Lollipop's security features removing root on each boot, but now the new SuperSU injects root each time.
beachbum40 said:
Quick question, does any one have a good recommendation on a guide to root my n6 I don't want to use a tool kit because I'm hearing its better to do root through fastboot if that's correct. I've been rooting phone for some time now but I've only dealt with fastboot once before with an HTC device. All my other devices where s2 to s5. And I usually used chainfires tool kits. So could someone please set me in right direction as far as guides go? Thanks
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Its pretty simple.
Use fastboot to unlock bootloader (wipes device]
use fastboot to flash TWRP recovery
Put SuperSU zip on sdcard and flash that via TWRP recovery.
There are guides in general. The main thing is understanding using fastboot. I have a thread on that.
Go to general > all in one thread > question 28
Thank you for quick response guys? Rooting today can't take it anymore.
NotATreoFan said:
I'm currently running Euphoria OS on my N6. It is based on CM12, and offers a lot of customization options without actually having to enable root. I've been running it for almost a month now, and I have yet to feel a need to go into Developer Options and flip the switch for root access.
From a call quality standpoint, we are all running the same radio versions, so it will come down to your area. I work in an area where T-Mobile is spotty (my building specifically, LTE is stupid fast outside of it) and so I'm eagerly awaiting the update which adds WiFi Calling to AOSP. As it stands now, my phone does activate HD Voice and show an indicator icon in the dialer when I'm on with another T-Mobile user.
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Why do you need a specific custom ROM for many customization when there is Xposed available now?
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beachbum40 said:
Quick question, does any one have a good recommendation on a guide to root my n6 I don't want to use a tool kit because I'm hearing its better to do root through fastboot if that's correct. I've been rooting phone for some time now but I've only dealt with fastboot once before with an HTC device. All my other devices where s2 to s5. And I usually used chainfires tool kits. So could someone please set me in right direction as far as guides go? Thanks
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This thread can help you further
bb2si said:
Maybe I can use this to convince my girlfriend to let me root hers, as well. She's never had an unlocked device before and she's very cautious about it, but I'm sure I could convince her.
Thanks again, all!
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Tell her no sex if you can't root her phone!
SAW_JOK3R said:
Why do you need a specific custom ROM for many customization when there is Xposed available now?
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Well xposed is Alpha - not ready for public consumption.
Also, xposed module features are never as good as ones compiled directly into the ROMs. They're just not as efficient. Xposed doesn't replace the need for custom ROMs.
rootSU said:
Well xposed is Alpha - not ready for public consumption.
Also, xposed module features are never as good as ones compiled directly into the ROMs. They're just not as efficient. Xposed doesn't replace the need for custom ROMs.
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Well, Xposed is working flawlessly on nexus 5 and 6 without causing any issue That's why suggested Yeah, that doesn't replace the need of custom ROM but that actually add more feature of user's choice
Head over to the main G4 development page if you are interested in this for the H811/H815.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/h811-h815-blisspop-cyanogenmod-12-1-t3185593
There's still a long way to go. Most things are still broken and new builds will generally break things on a regular basis. Just be aware before heading over. The post doesn't need more Posts saying goodbye this/that isn't working, it's still very much a WIP.
Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk
IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
There's still a long way to go. Most things are still broken and new builds will generally break things on a regular basis. Just be aware before heading over. The post doesn't need more Posts saying goodbye this/that isn't working, it's still very much a WIP.
Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk
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True, and the OP doesn't have the most recent build where most stuff is actually working. I'm running the 10/15 build (page 76-78...somewhere in there, posted by codeworkx) and most of my audio is working. Haven't tried bluetooth, but I rarely use it, apparently voice calls have an echo, but I never call anyone, either. The only thing I really use that has an issue is the camera that delays on opening, but I'm sure that'll be worked out shortly. As soon as codeworkx got to work on it, it's honestly been pretty stable for a WIP, but I think I have a higher tolerance for broken builds and features, having been a crackflasher for 7 years now. I'm just happy to be back on AOSP/CM at this point with this phone.
schreckles said:
True, and the OP doesn't have the most recent build where most stuff is actually working. I'm running the 10/15 build (page 76-78...somewhere in there, posted by codeworkx) and most of my audio is working. Haven't tried bluetooth, but I rarely use it, apparently voice calls have an echo, but I never call anyone, either. The only thing I really use that has an issue is the camera that delays on opening, but I'm sure that'll be worked out shortly. As soon as codeworkx got to work on it, it's honestly been pretty stable for a WIP, but I think I have a higher tolerance for broken builds and features, having been a crackflasher for 7 years now. I'm just happy to be back on AOSP/CM at this point with this phone.
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I hope nobody thought I was saying it is ready for prime time! Just a heads up. I have not installed it yet as I will wait for a more highly functioning build, but I also know there is a thirst for development here, so I wanted to share the good news!!
Honestly, if you were to try the 10/15 build, you'd be surprised at how "ready from prime time" it actually is. I've been using it as my DD for the last 2 days and it's actually been pretty nice. Couple small things here and there, but the only thing that's affected me at all so far was the camera delay. Now that there's at least a dev or two that seems like they know what they're doing, I'm hoping development for AOSP/CM stuff starts picking up. The little time that codeworkx has put in so far has been looking extremely promising. (Not to take away from the OP on that, but code made it so that I can actually use it as a DD with sound.)
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Honestly, if you were to try the 10/15 build, you'd be surprised at how "ready from prime time" it actually is. I've been using it as my DD for the last 2 days and it's actually been pretty nice. Couple small things here and there, but the only thing that's affected me at all so far was the camera delay. Now that there's at least a dev or two that seems like they know what they're doing, I'm hoping development for AOSP/CM stuff starts picking up. The little time that codeworkx has put in so far has been looking extremely promising. (Not to take away from the OP on that, but code made it so that I can actually use it as a DD with sound.)
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Hmmm, I didn't realize it was that far along. Between the 815 talk there, it has become tough to follow. I may give it a go. I assumed you did a complete wipe before installing? Thanks, @schreckles
EDIT: You don't use bluetooth I see, and I do quite a bit. From what I understand, that doesn't work, so that's a non-starter for me. Guess I'll wait.
ShermCraig said:
Hmmm, I didn't realize it was that far along. Between the 815 talk there, it has become tough to follow. I may give it a go. I assumed you did a complete wipe before installing? Thanks, @schreckles
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Yup, sure did. Full wipe (especially when switching back and forth between CM/AOSP and stock roms) and then flashed the 10/15 H811 build that codeworkx posted the other day, along with the nano gapps he'd suggested.
Small issues: Your LED will stay lit up blue until you plug the phone in and unplug again. No biggie. No "OK Google" or anything that requires the phone mic for me thus far (ie Google Sound Search.) Camera takes approximately 4 years to open, but it does open, and the shots it produces aren't bad. They aren't as good as stock, but that's typically been the trade-off even since back in my OG Droid days when going from stock to non-stock base. Call audio, bluetooth, and NFC apparently have some issues still, but I rarely use any of those, so meh. Oh, and I get a popup stating "Settings has closed" every so often, but it doesn't affect anything. I'm sure I could find the cause if I was motivated, but I'm sure it'll get worked out soon enough.
...Mostly just stuff I can live without for now that's broken. I've even been using Xposed and some of my favorite modules without any ill effects.
So is it more or less a theme now or what? I know what CM is, but as far as functionality, is it quite a bit faster than stock or what?
Thanks!
I am assuming that this is the only public aosp build for the G4?
maximus20895 said:
So is it more or less a theme now or what? I know what CM is, but as far as functionality, is it quite a bit faster than stock or what?
Thanks!
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It's a completely different build of Android using different frameworks and whatnot. It's built upon AOSP and tweaked framework to make it CyanogenMod. I'm not sure if the one I am using currently is the one in this thread but so far it's been pretty smooth. There are definitely some issues but it's a lot further along than I though it would be. Kudos to those guys!
EDIT: That is the same build I am using (in case anyone is wondering).