I am thinking about getting the tf701 but iI have a question.
My expierience with battery life (on android) wasnt so good so far.
I do own the LG G Pad an i can get like 2-3 hours of gaming (wifi on brightnes on 75%)
So how long do you think will the Tf701 last? (with and without the Dock)
How is emulator performance? The snapdragon series has some problems with some emulators. How does the Tegra 4 hold up?
Motawa88 said:
I am thinking about getting the tf701 but iI have a question.
My expierience with battery life (on android) wasnt so good so far.
I do own the LG G Pad an i can get like 2-3 hours of gaming (wifi on brightnes on 75%)
So how long do you think will the Tf701 last? (with and without the Dock)
How is emulator performance? The snapdragon series has some problems with some emulators. How does the Tegra 4 hold up?
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its decent, about 6-7 hours a day if i use it extensively. your mileage may vary
2D and 3D performance is not amazing when running at stock resolution. 1200P is the most ideal for this tablet
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its decent, about 6-7 hours a day if i use it extensively. your mileage may vary
2D and 3D performance is not amazing when running at stock resolution. 1200P is the most ideal for this tablet
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With or without the Dock?
Kinda sucks that o habe to lower the resolution.... Guess I wohnt buy it then.
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With or without the Dock?
Kinda sucks that o habe to lower the resolution.... Guess I wohnt buy it then.
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without, i didnt really time out the exact time of course. I just have to charge it at the end of the day if i use it the whole day
I used to have tf701 but now I have the Xperia z2 tablet. I like the z2 much more than the tf701 I had.
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@zabih107: i have the 701 and am interested into changing for the z2. What parts are better? Not better?
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@zabih107: i have the 701 and am interested into changing for the z2. What parts are better? Not better?
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I have have the Z2 and I want to change it for the Z3..... It is never ending dude....
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With or without the Dock?
Kinda sucks that o habe to lower the resolution.... Guess I wohnt buy it then.
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But if you get the z2, max resolution is only 1920 x 1200, while the high-end Asus and Samsung tablets have 2560 x 1600, which gives a higher dots per inch than Apple's Ipad...
That may not be important if you want a tab mainly for gaming or video, but for me reading was paramount, and for that high dpi helps.
I hate the massive amount of bloatware that Samsung puts on its phones and tablets, while Asus has close to stock Android, and the keyboard sealed the deal for me. I had briefly considered a Note 10.1 with a bluetooth keyboard, but that would have been more expensive, and have neither the convenience nor the battery life of Asus' tablet+keyboard combo.
Just got one and I am pretty happy with it. In Canada, it does not comes with the dock and seeing all these threads / issues when using it, I won't be getting one
This is my first 10 inches tablet and damn, I am very surprised with the quality of the screen / resolution. I am using it mostly for media consumption / streaming, not for 3D games even if it can run them without problems. So far, pretty happy with it. Hopefully, we will get kitkat and I'll be more than pleased!
I got my dock from Canada Computers and I have no issues with it. I love the dock, extra battery, mouse and USB make this tablet so much better. It makes the tablet feel like a nice compact laptop and editing office documents is actually do able.
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Cool, nice to know that some people are enjoying the dock Thanks for the feedback!
I am thinking get one, because only this one has 64g rom. But still worry about cpu vs resolution problem. Any user can tell whether the cpu powerful enough to run the resolution ? Thanks
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I am thinking get one, because only this one has 64g rom. But still worry about cpu vs resolution problem. Any user can tell whether the cpu powerful enough to run the resolution ? Thanks
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I've only ever seen 32GB so you have done very well if you have found a 64GB model - although 64GB cards work fine.
The resolution works fine and runs everything I use it for including some games. You can always unlock, root or flash a rom which allows you to drop the resolution on the fly anyway if you need to. I find 1920x1200 works perfectly fine but I like the clarity of 2560x1600
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Is there any interest in one of these?
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Hell no
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Hell no
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Because? I'd get one in a heartbeat. I have a great phone with service I like but I think it would be an excellent pmp...
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Because? I'd get one in a heartbeat. I have a great phone with service I like but I think it would be an excellent pmp...
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No from me i like to have one device for everything. The note does this well why would i want to lose a important part of the device
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It would spoil the whole all-in-one thing it has going on. If you're gonna carry a phone on the side, you might as well get a full size tablet.
Turn on airplane mode and then wifi. Tada!
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I was in the market for a tablet and found this phone. I don't need to carry two devices now
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Because? I'd get one in a heartbeat. I have a great phone with service I like but I think it would be an excellent pmp...
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The Note is not a pmp. Get a Cowon
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Is there any interest in one of these?
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Maybe if its 7.7 inches
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The Note is not a pmp. Get a Cowon
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No stylus with a Cowon, but I see where people are at on this and have my answer.
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If you want it as a media player, the WIFI Galaxies are fine but they are NOT in anyway comparable to the Note.
A quick rundown on the main things I think make the difference; 5.0 inch Galaxy WIFI vs Note.
1GHz single core - 1.4GHz dual core
Original SGS unit? - SGS2 Mali400
512mb RAM - 1GB
800x480 screen - 1280x800 screen
So if you are planning to also use apps and browse the web, the Note is by far and a way a better device. Of course it costs more but you get what you pay for many times over IMO.
As a PMP? The Note is better than any Cowon I have seen so far. Gorgeous 5.3 inch screen (biggest Cowon was 4+ inches IIRC), high resolution screen and it doesn't look like the bricks Cowon puts out in this display range.
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If you want it as a media player, the WIFI Galaxies are fine but they are NOT in anyway comparable to the Note.
A quick rundown on the main things I think make the difference; 5.0 inch Galaxy WIFI vs Note.
1GHz single core - 1.4GHz dual core
Original SGS unit? - SGS2 Mali400
512mb RAM - 1GB
800x480 screen - 1280x800 screen
So if you are planning to also use apps and browse the web, the Note is by far and a way a better device. Of course it costs more but you get what you pay for many times over IMO.
As a PMP? The Note is better than any Cowon I have seen so far. Gorgeous 5.3 inch screen (biggest Cowon was 4+ inches IIRC), high resolution screen and it doesn't look like the bricks Cowon puts out in this display range.
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Better than a Cowon as a pmp....repeat a pmp? You are massively misinformed and probably have never used a Cowon product. The Z2 blows any other pmp away and all while not suffering from nasty black clipping
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Better than a Cowon as a pmp....repeat a pmp? You are massively misinformed and probably have never used a Cowon product. The Z2 blows any other pmp away and all while not suffering from nasty black clipping
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It's all subjective but the main reason I prefer the Note over the Cowons is the bigger, higher resolution screen which makes watching videos a more pleasant experience. I'm not sure what black clipping is, but I've had no problems watching videos on my Note.
Please give your reasons for claiming that Cowon is better rather than just throwing slander about. I've already given the parameters by which I judge these devices so lets have both sides of the argument.
Thinking of upgrading, a friend offered to buy my Galaxy Nexus and so I was thinking of selling it(for U.S.$150) and buying an N4. Is there $150 worth of difference in the two? I have never seen an N4 in the wild, so I have no frame of reference. The added bonus is my friend would be switching from an iPhone 4 so we'd be gaining a convert LOL. As far as ROMS and Unlocking/Rooting how is the N4? It's SUPER easy with the GNex of course, same with the N4?
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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Eh I say neither. The leaked lg device is likely the opt g2, which will obviously lead to a rebranded nexus 5. I like the g2's design, so I say wait for Google I/o for any leaks.
If you must have one then get the n4.
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I've owned both. Even when on a bad kernel/rom combo and having problems, the n4 battery life is still significantly better for me. Color tuning can get the screen pretty dang close to the amoled saturation.
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I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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3hrs screen on time is average for the N4.. Hardly 10 seconds and hardly anything to complain about either considering the hardware in the thing.
3473 said:
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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Mine lasts 15 seconds, booooy!
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Galaxy Nexus used is worth more than $150.
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Galaxy Nexus used is worth more than $150.
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I have to agree with the above statement. I still see GNexi selling for $200-$250. If you're cutting your friend a deal that's one thing. If not, don't short change yourself.
I've owned both, and my opinion is the GNex feels better in hand. The N4 will have a longer upgrade time as the GNex hardware slowly becomes obsolete.
I would say pick up the N4. If nothing else for having a new shiny toy to play with.
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I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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I don't know how long the GNex's battery lasted but on PA with the calibrated kernel that comes with it (if I'm not mistaken that is essentially just the stock kernel) I had 24 hours with 2 hours screen on time (lowest brightness) and still 20% left. If that's not good enough for you then you'll need to buy a phone with a huge stock battery or the ability to swap out an extended battery.
3473 said:
I've owned both, in all honesty I preferred the galaxy nexus
The n4 is nice, but ruined by the fact that it's battery lasts 10 seconds, even with custom kernels
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That's wrong, I've owned both too and the battery is a tad better on the N4. With custom rom and kernel I was averaging 3.5 hours of SOT with the GNex, but I get around 4 hours on the N4 all stock and no root.
10 seconds?? Am I reading it right?
Its around 5 hours screen on time with franco kernel
In terms of pure performance, the N4 is really good. It has the same GPU as the Galaxy S4, HTC one, Sony xperia Z etc etc etc. This means that most games will be optimized for these phones, and the N4 should age well. IF you are into games this could be worth considering. If not, I've seen the galaxy nexus with jellybean and it was very smooth indeed - so it's not like performance lacks with that phone.
The screen will look very "dimm"/undersaturated compared to your galaxy nexus. I personally used some "saturated" pre-set and calibrated the screen to 2.2 gamma on RGB - and I subjectivly think the screen looks amazing now (day and night difference between stock settings and calibrated). Requires root i believe!
Battery life is just fine for me (~4h screen-on-time) with franco.kernel. I don't have any complaints, but i know many others do. So you should compare what you get with the galaxy nexus and see what people with the N4 get.
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In terms of pure performance, the N4 is really good. It has the same GPU as the Galaxy S4, HTC one, Sony xperia Z etc etc etc. This means that most games will be optimized for these phones, and the N4 should age well. IF you are into games this could be worth considering. If not, I've seen the galaxy nexus with jellybean and it was very smooth indeed - so it's not like performance lacks with that phone.
The screen will look very "dimm"/undersaturated compared to your galaxy nexus. I personally used some "saturated" pre-set and calibrated the screen to 2.2 gamma on RGB - and I subjectivly think the screen looks amazing now (day and night difference between stock settings and calibrated). Requires root i believe!
Battery life is just fine for me (~4h screen-on-time) with franco.kernel. I don't have any complaints, but i know many others do. So you should compare what you get with the galaxy nexus and see what people with the N4 get.
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The S4 and HTC One have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 cpu. The N4 and Xperia Z have a Qualcomm S4 Pro cpu
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The S4 and HTC One have a Qualcomm 600 cpu. The N4 and Xperia Z have a Qualcomm S4 Pro cpu
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Yes, I wrote GPU mate. That is, the graphics card of the SoC. They all have the same Adreno320.
Also, I might add, the difference in architecture between the S4 Pro and 600 is minimal. What runs fast on the 600 will run fast on the S4 Pro as well.
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Yes, I wrote GPU mate. That is, the graphics card of the SoC. They all have the same Adreno320.
Also, I might add, the difference in architecture between the S4 Pro and 600 is minimal. What runs fast on the 600 will run fast on the S4 Pro as well.
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You`re right, misread that. Haven`t been up for so long .
I have them both and if you enjoy playing games don't even think about it. Now I can use the phone as a game console and it is just amazing. Believe me or not, I even prefer it's IPS screen. When I look back at my gnex I can see pixels due to its pentile distribution and I just don't like anymore it's over saturated display. It's a matter of getting use to it I imagine... When you first have it in your hands you really miss it but after some days you love it.
You've got a TOP phone for many years with this. And gpu is even compatible with the upcoming OPENGL 3.0
Let's see what Google IO brings in a couple of days.
Regarding the battery, it's non removable battery is a drawback. Got around 3:30 hours SOT with stock or performance kernels as trinity. But franco kernel is just awesome. Easily getting nearly 5 hours of screen time out of it and performance boosts just when needed in a very smart way.
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Hello everyone. I'm a longtime follower of, and lurker on XDA. I always have appreciated the amazing work that originates here, and the time and effort that so many put forward to making this the definitive hub for development for tablets, smartphones, etc. That being the case, I felt that I could do no better than to trust the opinions I might receive with my following question.
I've been using my 32G TF101 w/ dock since they were new, and while I have the tablet rooted and tweaked (thanks again xda!), I feel like the device is nearing the end of it's usefulness to me. I'm gotten used to my Samsung GS4 for quick and light use, but when I switch back to my old trusty TF101 for a little more screen real-estate the tablet is almost painful to use. I know this disparity will only increase as my smartphones continue to get newer/smarter, and my tablet continues to become more woefully outdated.
I'd love to update so that the gap might not be as noticeable. Considering that I've managed to be content sticking with my TF101 for this long, I'm really on the fence with this decision. I don't know whether I should consider paying the none-too-inexpensive cost of bringing myself up to date with the 64G flavor of the TF701, or save a few hundred dollars and just be happy with the performance boost that a year 1/2 old TF700 would offer over my current tablet, despite the fact that the age of it might put me back in the same boat I'm already in much quicker.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! :good:
If your you're willing to unlock and use custom rom then the 700 is going to be a capable device as long as you don't play HD games on it as some if not most HD games don't play as smooth on it. Stock form it's a pain to use and suffers from I/O issues so it tends to lag and stutter when you're downloading or transferring data. Custom rom helps but the I/O is still present but is definitely better than stock. The 701 is the best Asus 10 inch tablet out right now and it's great stock. So if it were me I'd skip 700 completely and jump to 701. There are other great tablets out there as well like the Samsung note 10.1 but no kb dock. The best performer IMO is the hp slate book X2 but you're stuck with 16gb and lower resolution and warmer screen. But its the cheapest at $450 with a kb. Seeing that you're considering a 64gb model you're not going to be happy with that. So I think 701 is your better choice. Just read up on the 700 forum so you know what to expect if you decide to go for that device instead. I've had the 201 and the 701 each for about a year.
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701t, but gaming performance is decent, that's because the high res screen
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Try one out in a shop when possible and be amazed how quick and lagfree it is.
Screen of the TF700 is already very good and the TF701 screen is an improvement but not a big one. Higher resolution you only can see with apropriate content.
Tf701 is a big step forward in speed and when Asus manages to solve the dock connection problems there is no real competition, specially for this money!!
Hi,
i replaced my TF300T (Tegra3, 1Gig) against the TF701 and this is a huge step forward, just talking about the overall performance with ASUS ROMĀ“s. I mean the TF300T was okay, but really laggy and had a lot times to think (stucks for 1 or 3 seconds). The TF701 is as good as instant to use (browse in desktop mode and stuff like that).
Yep Display also is much better, Keydock feels not so nice but i write much faster on this (better anyhow, i dont know why).
I would go to TF701 if you can sell TF700 for a good price, or check a head to head in any store or try one and if you dont want to hold the new one which i did not think, send it back
So from my side ASUS was 1st with Transformer Series, and i like those a lot. I used a TF101 and TF300 and 700 (but still owned the TF300T) but since the TF701 the Transformers on android are usable without any kind of "problems" or waiting or stucking or what ever, thats really amazing.
So if you want to see how fast it is, go to youtube and search for slatebook x2 vs nexus 10, and the nexus10 is a really really fast device if you will have the look against Tegra3 devices. Also ASUS spend faster memory in the TF701 than in series before, it runs much much better.
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Get the TF701T. The TF700T can't match it even with a good custom rom
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Get the TF701T. The TF700T can't match it even with a good custom rom
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If it werent for you i would've thrown the 700 against the wall a long time ago lol. So are you dumping the 700 or are gonna continue to develop for it? Glad you ended up getting the 701 after all though.
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If it werent for you i would've thrown the 700 against the wall a long time ago lol. So are you dumping the 700 or are gonna continue to develop for it? Glad you ended up getting the 701 after all though.
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Don't get me wrong I love my TF700 and it is now my work machine.
There will be more updates to the TF700 to come
sbdags said:
Don't get me wrong I love my TF700 and it is now my work machine.
There will be more updates to the TF700 to come
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Good to hear.
I still have my TF700 (wife is using it now) for a backup and because it is a good machine with it flaws (slow internal memory).
I did downgrade it to Cromi 3.4.7. where the draining of the dock is absent.
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So if you want to see how fast it is, go to youtube and search for slatebook x2 vs nexus 10, and the nexus10 is a really really fast device if you will have the look against Tegra3 devices.
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I understand why you suggested this, because the HP Slatebook x2 is a Tegra 4 device like the TF701T, but people who have had both the Slatebook x2 and the TF701T have said that the Slatebook outperforms the TF701T, probably because of the Slatebook's lower resolution.
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I understand why you suggested this, because the HP Slatebook x2 is a Tegra 4 device like the TF701T, but people who have had both the Slatebook x2 and the TF701T have said that the Slatebook outperforms the TF701T, probably because of the Slatebook's lower resolution.
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Exactly.
But only in GPU intensive applications like games.
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Good to hear.
I still have my TF700 (wife is using it now) for a backup and because it is a good machine with it flaws (slow internal memory).
I did downgrade it to Cromi 3.4.7. where the draining of the dock is absent.
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I've heard that the new thatv6 kernel fixes that bug.
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I've heard that the new thatv6 kernel fixes that bug.
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Really?? Did you test it yourself? Would be great!
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Really?? Did you test it yourself? Would be great!
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I sold my prime 2 weeks ago so my dock went with it so I can't test it.....
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I sold my prime 2 weeks ago so my dock went with it so I can't test it.....
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Ok, wil then monitor your TF700 CromiX thread then to see if someone did test it and has results.
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Exactly.
But only in GPU intensive applications like games.
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It's not just games. I have the slate book and it's butter smooth no Stuttering 99% of the time even with simple tasks like portrait to landscape transition. Once you have this kind of experience it's hard to appreciate other devices. At least in my case. I can honestly say this is as close to it ipad user experience as I'm gonna get on an android. My roommate with ipad is surprised as well.
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What setting do you leave your transitions on for the TF700T?
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What setting do you leave your transitions on for the TF700T?
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Still strange.
I have my third unit now (due to the dock connection problem) but none of them suffered from stuttering or lagging.
In the local Media Markt they had the slatebook X2 as a demo last weekend and I gave it a try but I see no real difference in performing normal tasks and on games they had installed compared to the Tf701.
But the better screen of the TF701 was clearly visible.
Thanks to everyone that responded. I seriously appreciate all the time and opinions everyone shared and the information put forth.I don't play many games on my tablet (guess I should have mentioned that), as I've got a nice desktop at home for that, but it still sounds like the TF701 should be my primary choice.
Now all I have to do is wait for the 64G flavor become available, and hope it does so before ASUS decides to muddy the waters of my decision by releasing an announcement about a TF800 or something along those lines. :laugh:
I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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I have had a TF700 for exactly 1 year and 2 months, but two weeks ago the motherboard got fried due to my stupidity and I decided I needed a new tablet. The 700 CROMIX served me well and it had done everything I wanted it to with a few frustration.
I looked at the Samsungs, Kindles, Google Nexus 10, and the TF701. After a week of looking at all these I decided that
- Samsung was too expensive. Nice machines, but I was just not willing to pay the difference
- Kindles are also nice but a little small for me and I felt like I would always be fighting the Amazon controls they put on the device. HW wise it was the lightest machine with the best screen.
- Google Nexus 10 seemed a little too similar to the 701 and it had a little lesser specs (CPU and no MicroSD). Maybe I would wait for the NEW version, but it did not look like it is coming anytime soon (hopefully summer) and my guess is that it will be in the $500+ range
- So since the 701 has a better screen, better CPU, and very attractive price ($359 at amazon), I decided to go with it
Got the tablet and really did not wait: Upgraded to 4.3, Unlocked the bootloader, and installed CROMiX 6.0.1a on it. 20 minutes and I was good to go. I was really surprised how much faster than my 700 it is. I knew that the 1.9MHZ is better than the 700's 1.6 but I had the 700 overclocked and with the increased resolution, I expected they would be close. But the performance difference is really noticeable. I cannot comment on CROMiX vs the Stock in terms of how much the performance improvement is the optimized ROM because I did not really run the stock long enough. But this thing just flies. Boat browser with flash works great. My 16GB MicroSD worked great, the restore from Titanium worked great. My Nova settings were there and worked without trouble. Netflix does not stutter at all or Google movies or Mx Player. The battery was horrible after my first charge (lasted less than 8 hours) but also I was messing with it the whole time. After that, it looks like it goes about 2.5-3 hours per 1% in sleep and I would say it is a bit better than my 700 while on. The ROM has a "reading mode" that seems to slow down battery consumption while reading my Kindle app, but I am not sure how much better it is.
Just wanted to share my experiences with the TF701. Not saying it is the best machine out there, but for the price, I am very happy and cannot imagine the added cost for the other models would buy me that much. All the features of the 700 with the added performance and better screen. Very happy.
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Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
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Nice report! I have the same experience but I still love my TF700.
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Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
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Yes, I probably would have lived OK with the TF700 for a while, but I am glad I fried it
BTW, Thanks for CROMiX... It is a really nice piece of work! Sending a couple of six packs your way...
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Wow! Many thanks for the donation! That is very kind of you.
Cheers! :highfive: :good:
My last tablet was the TF101 so I cant complain. My reasoning was the same as jhermit. Its the 701 just happens to be the one. With its high resolution, reflections, and so on. A good buy. The Samsung was the white one everywhere. Otherwise I would have gotten it. The white color really through me off of buying it. Can't figure that one out.
The TF701T keeps dropping in price, it may be the one to get.
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I also have upgraded and have a few thoughts to add.
1. The docking station is all plastic, where the tf700t was metal. The plastic seems cheaper and typing and using the touchpad sounds plasticy, but the keyboard does type a bit easier.
2. The USB port on the base station is very very tight. I feel like I'm going to break it when I'm inserting and removing plugs.
3. The lack of vibration in the tablet is a bit of a let-down. I would have preferred to have the option.
4. The Micro USB port on the tablet is very tight and hard to get a card back out. It might be specific to my unit, but it's still an issue for me.
5. There are better brightness and performance options on the tf700t, but that may be part of the older OS as well.
6. The tablet dock hings has a lot more play/wobble in it. I read elsewhere that this was a design reason but it's floppy when I'm carrying the tablet around with the screen open.
7. Chrome was brutally bad on the tf700t; laggy, slow to load things, etc on both stock and custom ROMs. It appears that the extra horsepower in the tf701t has taken care of that problem.
So far so good on the custom ROM with xposed framework settings. I've restored all settings using Titanium Backup and am happy with it so far.
I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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pipopipz said:
I'm thinking of getting this too but I can't figure out why the supposed upgrade to my tf700 actually decreased its camera resolution. Sigh. Any feedback on the camera diffrence?
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Never used a camera on a tablet, ever, so I couldn't tell you but everything else is better.
I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera either. I'm sure a very high percentage of buyers don't either. Not a selling point for me.
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I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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I don't use the camera on the tablet that much too but for a supposed upgrade of a particular model, one wouldn't expect specs to scale back right? At least stay as is if not increase spec.
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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If you are going to keep costs down why not go cheaper on the one part 99% of users will never use Seriously who uses the back camera on their tablet?
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You would be surprised......
Take a trip to a top tourist destination, marvel and cringe!
I work in tourism and I see more of them every month! And all of them look utterly, totally stupid if you ask me.
The only thing worse are telescopic extensions handles for the iPhone with some kind of trigger build into it's handle to take pictures and videos. Saw about a dozen of those **** in Las Vegas the other night. And for some reason I'm totally convinced that 99.9% of those pictures land in the recycling bin.... Or they should....
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I got the TF701 a couple days ago (no keyboard) and it's great, I see no down side at all yet and I still have the TF700 running better than it ever has with Crombi-kk. [emoji41]
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Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
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Just a quick question, will the TF701T Tablet work with the Keyboard Dock from the TF700T ??
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Unfortunately not - they have different connectors.
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Ruud Westerhout said:
No, connection differs, keyboard as well as charger and datacables differ.
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Actually that kind of makes sense as the 701 has USB3.0 on the KBD Dock.
Currently on a TF201
I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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I'm currently on a TF201 Transformer Prime that I've had for about two years now. I't currently running Crombi-KK quite nicely but...I'm looking for something else. I've pretty much narrowed things down to either a Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 or the TF 701. There aren't a lot of reviews out there on the Tegra 4 based devices while of course the Enyos 5420 in the Galaxy tab is unique to Samsung. Have any of you had the opportunity to try both devices? Has anyone had an opportunity to use both a Tegra 4 (like the TF701) and a Snapdragon 800 based device. what little I'm finding seems to say that performance wise it would be 1. snapdragon 800, 2. Enyos 5420 and 3. tegra 4 ....but also that the differences aren't that great???
Right now I'm seeing the TF701 on Amazon for $354 and the Samsung for $399 so the prices are not that far off. On the other hand I always loved the keyboard dock on my Prime and with the TF701 I could have that again...for $130 on Amazon taking the total cost to $484. Of course with the Samsung I'd probably end up with some sort of Bluetooth keyboard, so in the end, when the accessories I would want are factored in, they cost about the same. (EDIT: I see that the Samsung is only 16 GB storage while the Asus is 32 - advantage Asus except that the Samsung has a micro SD slot and I've got a couple of 64 GB Sandisk Ultras kicking around so that probably isn't critical)
On the pro side the Asus is known unlockable (correct me if I'm wrong) where the Samsung probably isn't??? With my Prime, I stuck with it locked until the warranty ran out then unlocked it and put Hairy Bean on it and more recently Crombi-KK. So having those options available for the future is also a plus.
On the down side, as much as I have loved my Prime, its always had some annoyances. My WiFi was never as bad as others complain of but its never been great either. Sitting in my living room with my router almost directly under me on the floor below, my Motorola phone and my wife's HP laptop get right around the full 30 Mbps we have incoming from our ISP. My prime gets 8 - 10 Mbps which should be adequate most of the time except...the lag loading web pages. Hariy Bean and now Crombi-KK seem to improve things, but my phone (Morotrola Droid Maxx on Android 4.4) is still way smoother. Of course the GPS never really worked very well - which would be a big problem for me on a phone but not such a big deal on the tablet. Has Asus managed to correct those things on the TF701? While the Tegra 4 sounds good, I wouldn't want to have a tablet where they just stuck a faster CPU in the same old device.
Guess what I'm really looking for is a new Transformer Prime that's both faster and corrects all the annoyances I've had with the TF201. Does the TF 701 accomplish that? Given that the Samsung is about the same price when I include the accessories I want, does that change your opinion?
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Just go ahead and choose the TF701! I did not have older asus tablets, but from the comments I have read since this forum was launched, all the issues that older Asus tablets had were solved. However, I would advise you to make sure that the keyboard you are going to buy is built recently ( ??/2014). Some people are experiencing disconnections between the dock and the tablet. For me I have a 09/2013 build but fortunately everything works as it should
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excluding the keyboard dock as i dont have one
I think its worse. 801 is very powerful.
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wakkaday said:
anyone know
excluding the keyboard dock as i dont have one
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I think I can make this very easy for you. In terms of sheer power, the Xperia Z2 tablet is the most powerful tablet right now (Snapdragon 801, 3GB of RAM, running Android 4.4 out of the box). The only negative aspect of the Z2 is that it has a full HD resolution, lower than 2560x1600 on the tf701t. If you want to play game, Snapdragon 801 + full HD screen is the best combination for gaming since it won't kill your frame rates.
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I think I can make this very easy for you. In terms of sheer power, the Xperia Z2 tablet is the most powerful tablet right now (Snapdragon 801, 3GB of RAM, running Android 4.4 out of the box). The only negative aspect of the Z2 is that it has a full HD resolution, lower than 2560x1600 on the tf701t. If you want to play game, Snapdragon 801 + full HD screen is the best combination for gaming since it won't kill your frame rates.
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Yeah the Z2 is more powerful but another negative to me is $515 vs. $299
Where did you buy one for $299.00?
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Where did you buy one for $299.00?
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TigerDirect.com. Bought mine there and free shipping too! However, they don't offer the free shipping now when I checked again.
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Where did you buy one for $299.00?
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Got mine at B&H Photo for $299.00
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Got mine at B&H Photo for $299.00
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It's already 359.95 there now. I wonder what made almost all the retailers jack up their prices.
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It's already 359.95 there now. I wonder what made almost all the retailers jack up their prices.
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Even at 360 bucks it's at least $240 less a price I paid for mine (480 Euros, only three months ago).
On topic: The Tegra 4 is powerful but only features OpenGL 2.0. New benchmarks and game titles might look much better when running GL 3.1, which the GPUs running in newer tablets like Xperia Z2 support.
The Tegra4 sometimes has it's issues with the high resolution, that's true. But all in all it's good enough.
I see the the tegra 4 also powers some cintiq tablets at the lower 1920x1200. Could our higher resolution be overkill? Do these other tablets allow for the higher resolution 2560x1600 or does it have to do with our display? Actually a good deal when you consider that cintiq is $1500
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I see the the tegra 4 also powers some cintiq tablets at the lower 1920x1200. Could our higher resolution be overkill? Do these other tablets allow for the higher resolution 2560x1600 or does it have to do with our display? Actually a good deal when you consider that cintiq is $1500
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The higher resolution is definitely overkill for games -- but it is fantastic for reading text and webpages. It really reduces fatigue and eye strain when reading for long periods.
So it really depends on what you want a tablet for...