What are we needing in order to figure out how to unlock or bypass the AT&T Bootloader?
I downloaded the stock files and have the aboot.mbn and the sbl1/sdi.mdn files. I have never worked on bootloader files before, but have some experience modding kernel and ROM level code.
This may be ignorant on my part - but since we have the files, couldn't we open and manipulate the code that is currently restricting 3rd party recoveries, kernels and ROMS?
What is needed? And/or, could we not utilize the modified bootloaders from another device with similar architecture? Perhaps like the Note 3 or even the S4; not to mention the T-Mobile S5? Since the T-Mobile and AT&T versions of all Samsung phones are almost identical, I would assume that would be the easist route - at least to help determine the differences that are restricting our device.....
Let me know if anyone needs these files or has info on what to look for within them.... I'm happy to mod anything on my end.
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Because it is locked we can't just flash over it with another one due to signatures and miss match.
Need to research into the os and associated code to find an exploit that can be used like safestrap.
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Because it is locked we can't just flash over it with another one due to signatures and miss match.
Need to research into the os and associated code to find an exploit that can be used like safestrap.
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Or if someone that works at AT&T or Samsung would be nice enough to leak a signing key or a signed unlocked bootloader.
Key from Tmobile S5
T-mobile S5 is rooted. Can we find the signing key used for Tmobile phones? Is there is a remote chance keys are same?
Will recoveries on Tmobile and ATT phone be same?
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T-mobile S5 is rooted. Can we find the signing key used for Tmobile phones? Is there is a remote chance keys are same?
Will recoveries on Tmobile and ATT phone be same?
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Thats a good question. I wonder if we know how many keys the S5 will accept for signed updates? I.e. Is there a Samsung and a AT&T key for all S5's or is it per model or is it derived somehow from the IEMI.
Why would the developers even waste their time on the AT&T S5? They know the story behind it. Same ol' thing. I would rather have them actually develop roms on the T-Mobile S5, which we all can use btw, instead of wasting time on trying to unlock the bootloader. If it could be hacked, it would have, LONG AGO!
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T-mobile S5 is rooted. Can we find the signing key used for Tmobile phones? Is there is a remote chance keys are same?
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How would the key used for the G900T be helpful? Its not like the key is on some partition somewhere
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Why would the developers even waste their time on the AT&T S5? They know the story behind it. Same ol' thing. I would rather have them actually develop roms on the T-Mobile S5, which we all can use btw, instead of wasting time on trying to unlock the bootloader. If it could be hacked, it would have, LONG AGO!
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Well to be fair, if you took the best developers and hardware/software hackers in the world and put them in a room with an amazing salary.. it would be hacked..
So lets not say that its impossible. It is just extremely difficult and beyond the scope of the few developers (if any) that are still around trying to crack into it. The problem is that there aren't that many people that just want to sit around trying to figure out a way to make it work, they would rather move to different phones and carriers instead, because its just overall easier.
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Why would the developers even waste their time on the AT&T S5? They know the story behind it. Same ol' thing. I would rather have them actually develop roms on the T-Mobile S5, which we all can use btw, instead of wasting time on trying to unlock the bootloader. If it could be hacked, it would have, LONG AGO!
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Yep, hate to burst anyone's bubble who has a G900A, but it's not going to happen... EVER. Options are to hold out for a developer edition phone from Samsung or get a T-mobile version... which is exactly the same thing minus the restrictions. Or if you are pissed at AT&T, just find another carrier. Maybe if there was enough churn from this, they would stop doing it.
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Yep, hate to burst anyone's bubble who has a G900A, but it's not going to happen... EVER. Options are to hold out for a developer edition phone from Samsung or get a T-mobile version... which is exactly the same thing minus the restrictions. Or if you are pissed at AT&T, just find another carrier. Maybe if there was enough churn from this, they would stop doing it.
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The s5 will get root same as the s4 did. People just need to be patient. There is definitely a dev that is working to unlock this thing. Everyone said the same thing about the s4 and now look
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Yep, hate to burst anyone's bubble who has a G900A, but it's not going to happen... EVER. Options are to hold out for a developer edition phone from Samsung or get a T-mobile version... which is exactly the same thing minus the restrictions. Or if you are pissed at AT&T, just find another carrier. Maybe if there was enough churn from this, they would stop doing it.
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People like you make me laugh. Not even 2 weeks after release and you're already declaring the device will NEVER get root. Lol.
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People like you make me laugh. Not even 2 weeks after release and you're already declaring the device will NEVER get root. Lol.
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Yea I don't think its fair to say it "will never" or "cannot be" done.
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Yea I don't think its fair to say it "will never" or "cannot be" done.
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Exactly. It can be done and it will be done. Anyone thinking otherwise is pretty naive. But then again, it's expected from those who don't even have the AT&T model, but continue to post in the AT&T section.
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The s5 will get root same as the s4 did. People just need to be patient. There is definitely a dev that is working to unlock this thing. Everyone said the same thing about the s4 and now look
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This thread is about the boot loader, not getting root.
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Yea I don't think its fair to say it "will never" or "cannot be" done.
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No. Again, there is a difference from root and unlocking the bootloader. I was referring to the bootloader as that's what this thread is discussing. I never said it was impossible, it is quite possible just takes a lot of hard work. My prediction is that it will never be fully unlocked.
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No. Again, there is a difference from root and unlocking the bootloader. I was referring to the bootloader as that's what this thread is discussing. I never said it was impossible, it is quite possible just takes a lot of hard work. My prediction is that it will never be fully unlocked.
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I don't want to even have to worry about if it will or not, because I don't know who or how many are working on an exploit..
That's why I am switching to the One M8, but either way if/when something does change I may switch back.. I just would rather have fun now!
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I don't want to even have to worry about if it will or not, because I don't know who or how many are working on an exploit..
That's why I am switching to the One M8, but either way if/when something does change I may switch back.. I just would rather have fun now!
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You can always put in a bounty in the Verizon thread. So devs like myself who have experience cracking and exploiting might show some interest
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You can always put in a bounty in the Verizon thread. So devs like myself who have experience cracking and exploiting might show some interest
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Id rather just not worry about it.
I do love Samsung, but HTC is the ethical choice.
Another one might be moving to TMO, but we shall seeee.......
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Id rather just not worry about it.
I do love Samsung, but HTC is the ethical choice.
Another one might be moving to TMO, but we shall seeee.......
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+1. Loved Sammy but went to M8.
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You can always put in a bounty in the Verizon thread. So devs like myself who have experience cracking and exploiting might show some interest
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that bounty is up there pretty high already just sayin
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that bounty is up there pretty high already just sayin
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I think the problem is SELinux is an extremely tough nut to crack(and I'm guessing you could easily get a six figure payday for an unknown SELinux/PaX kernel exploit in the black market at this point). Pretty much every linux kernel vulnerability exploit code I've seen fails on all of my boxes with SELinux, PAX and hardened GCC(one of these protection mechanisms always ends up killing the exploit before it can deliver its payload). Do we know exactly what SELinux and PAX(if any) features were enabled in the .config that Samsung used to compile the kernel (and if a hardened toolchain was used for the userland)? At least from what I've seen a properly configured SELinux box with Pax and hardened GCC is one of the toughest boxes to crack. I guess what we can hope for is that someone at Samsung did something stupid otherwise its quite possible we could be waiting for awhile(unless a key or signed unlocked bootloader leaks).
(edit: This applies to getting root through a kernel exploit.(Although with SELinux that isn't enough you need to not only be UID0 root but you also have to switch the role to sysadm_r. The bootloader I'm not 100 percent sure on the secure boot process but my understanding from reading other dev's threads is that this will be even harder than getting a root escalation in the SELinux kernel). Although if we could crack the bl we could just inject root easily.
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Am going to buy an s6. If you guys think custom roms will really expand the edges' capabilities I will go with that. But if you guys honestly don't think there is much use for it, or hacking it will be easy/intuitive then I'll just opt for regular s6. Any input/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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Am going to buy an s6. If you guys think custom roms will really expand the edges' capabilities I will go with that. But if you guys honestly don't think there is much use for it, or hacking it will be easy/intuitive then I'll just opt for regular s6. Any input/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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I would assume the toughest part of any of that will actually be getting root, etc on the Verizon version.
All phones are tough to get root on. You know they'll do it.
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I would assume the toughest part of any of that will actually be getting root, etc on the Verizon version.
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I was watching a rooting video from zedomax's channel in YouTube, and he certainly mentioned about rooting Verizon version. I think there's already a way out there.
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I was watching a rooting video from zedomax's channel in YouTube, and he certainly mentioned about rooting Verizon version. I think there's already a way out there.
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There is but it may not work on Verizon.
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All phones are tough to get root on. You know they'll do it.
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Like the Verizon Note 4?
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Like the Verizon Note 4?
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Is the note 4 still not rooted? Sorry, I made a HUGE mistake switching from a s4 to a ip6. Now I'm looking to switch back. I got the iphone 6 because my s4 had loki , but then my insurance replacement did not have that exploit available. So to say the least I am not up to speed on roots but I didn't know there were still phones out that in the wild unrooted.
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Is the note 4 still not rooted? Sorry, I made a HUGE mistake switching from a s4 to a ip6. Now I'm looking to switch back. I got the iphone 6 because my s4 had loki , but then my insurance replacement did not have that exploit available. So to say the least I am not up to speed on roots but I didn't know there were still phones out that in the wild unrooted.
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I don't believe it has root...I checked the bounty thread and it looked pretty active still. I'm jumping from the M8 so I'm not 100% sure on Samsung devices but I'm fairly certain they're really locked down on Verizon. I guess I'm just trying to not get my hopes up in case it doesn't happen with the VZW S6 but I've definitely got my fingers crossed!
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I think the edge will be a completely different beast. With all the attention it's getting, I think a lot people will be getting this device which only increases the odds of getting root. Just my opinion though.
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I think the edge will be a completely different beast. With all the attention it's getting, I think a lot people will be getting this device which only increases the odds of getting root. Just my opinion though.
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That is what I am thinking as well. Then the question is - how much use can be squeezed out of the "edges" from the rom developers?
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That is what I am thinking as well. Then the question is - how much use can be squeezed out of the "edges" from the rom developers?
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I would love root, don't get me wrong. I'm just not getting my hopes up because of the history with Samsung and Verizon. Let's keep our fingers crossed and if need be, get a bounty thread going once we start getting devices (if the current root method doesn't work with VZW).
I don't know if it will have root... The Note 3 lost root ever since updated to 4.4.4 with a new exploid Verizon did with kernel + bootloader and it hasnt been able to root.. I figure same would be for Note 4 on Verizon... S6 or S6E would be the same or worst... Plus I don't know if there will be any development support since this S6/S6E have Samsung's Exynos processor (Not open source).
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I would love root, don't get me wrong. I'm just not getting my hopes up because of the history with Samsung and Verizon. Let's keep our fingers crossed and if need be, get a bounty thread going once we start getting devices (if the current root method doesn't work with VZW).
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The current method to root the s6 involves cf root which requires an unlocked bootloader... meaning chances that it will work in Verizon/AT&T is little to none. Let's hope that an exploit is found that will allow root
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The current method to root the s6 involves cf root which requires an unlocked bootloader... meaning chances that it will work in Verizon/AT&T is little to none. Let's hope that an exploit is found that will allow root
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Yeah I think those are for the dev editions.
But if we can get root some how.
All we need is root I think if I'm not mistaken hsbadr as a similar work around to safestrap and MORE I think it was mentioned in one of his Jasmine threads if forgot will post link when I find it.
If we don't get root, and the devs around here don't find a way to expand on the limited Edge functions, then the Edge is a total gimmick. The Edge does not have separate screens for the edges like the Note. The S6 edge just has curved glass/screen. You can only use 1 edge at a time (you select left or right) - which is absurd for a dual edged phone. And you can only do about 4 basic things with it most Launchers have been able to do for years. So I pray it gets expanded on as right now... a clock, a news feed, basic notifications, 5 people/contacts, and ring colors for those 5 people/contacts is hardly that cool. For example, people/contact on 1 edge and say an app launcher on the other edge.
RELEVANT TO US BECAUSE WHEN WE GET THE UPDATE, IT LOCKS THE BOOTLOADER.
IF THEY LOCK IT FOR THE S6 EDGE, THEY'LL LOCK IT FOR THE S6!
DO NOT TAKE THE OTA IF YOU DON'T WANT A LOCKED BOOTLOADER.
Unassuming Galaxy S6 edge users are in for a surprise, as T-Mobile appears to be rolling out a freshly cooked OTA based on Android version 5.1.1 Lollipop for the device. The catch, however, it is so far reported only on the T-Mobile network.
XDA forums user Sunderwear mentioned about the OTA a couple of hours back (at the time of writing this story). Urged by other users of the device, the poster also uploaded a video of his Galaxy S6 edge running the latest firmware. The video can be found at the end of this article.
As noted from the narration, the update also locks the bootloader on the device.
So, how many of you have already received the update? What do you think of it?
Source: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/29/android-5-1-1-ota-being-rolled-out-on-t-mobile-for-the-s6-edge/
Looks like someone in the Edge forum was able to downgrade the bootloader and flash TWRP but still, tread carefully.
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ok I downgraded the Bootloader ONLY and I was able to flash TWRP...dumping a system.img copy..
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Honestly I'm caring less and less about roms but I like the option. Here is some possible good news from a trustworthy guy
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Korean variants seem to be getting an app that unlocks the bootloader, I bet we start seeing that for other variants as well (except verizon/att).
This is a good thing, not a bad thing people!
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Honestly I'm caring less and less about roms but I like the option. Here is some possible good news from a trustworthy guy
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Coming from the ROM Flashing mecca of HTC and finding a place in Samsung is.. weird to say the least. I find that there are only minor things I need that require root but I no-longer need the overhaul that I needed with HTC. It's too weird.
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Coming from the ROM Flashing mecca of HTC and finding a place in Samsung is.. weird to say the least. I find that there are only minor things I need that require root but I no-longer need the overhaul that I needed with HTC. It's too weird.
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I see you edited your signature!
If/when anyone gets this update try to grab the update before taking it. Also, the bootloader Doesn't actually get locked.
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If/when anyone gets this update try to grab the update before taking it. Also, the bootloader Doesn't actually get locked.
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BOOM. Bootloader news is great news
Isn't it odd that just one guy has gotten the update? T-mobile has sold hundreds of thousands of these units and only one guy got an OTA?
I'll believe it when I see it.
Is it possible to do the update if we are rooted? And I mean UPDATE not flash the entire new release.
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Isn't it odd that just one guy has gotten the update? T-mobile has sold hundreds of thousands of these units and only one guy got an OTA?
I'll believe it when I see it.
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This type of thing might happen with a lot of updates. You need to remember the rooting/moding community is very small compared to the people who just use their phone as is. So if anything I think its weird that someone in this community got the update.
Hey I hope it's true, I for one hope it fixes the memory management and battery issues.
According to this guy, it looks like the XDA member was part of a "Soak Test", or he is a guinea pig. Hopefully it doesn't take months to test it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...5-1-1/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix
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Isn't it odd that just one guy has gotten the update? T-mobile has sold hundreds of thousands of these units and only one guy got an OTA?
I'll believe it when I see it.
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it's a leak...also camera is buggy...not a final version
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Hey I hope it's true, I for one hope it fixes the memory management and battery issues.
According to this guy, it looks like the XDA member was part of a "Soak Test", or he is a guinea pig. Hopefully it doesn't take months to test it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...5-1-1/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix
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Never.... EVER... take anything from that website serious.
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Never.... EVER... take anything from that website serious.
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Haha yeah, tech reporters are a bunch of iMorons as it is and love iCrap over everything else. I was shocked that they even knew what xda was.
Someone has the balls to try it on the non-edge S6?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge/development/5-1-1-blck-tw-t3096994
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Someone has the balls to try it on the non-edge S6?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge/development/5-1-1-blck-tw-t3096994
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I hope no one tries this. Both devices are TOTALLY different.
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I hope no one tries this. Both devices are TOTALLY different.
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They're really not, actually. I imagine it would boot. My guess is touch screen wouldn't work though.
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They're really not, actually. I imagine it would boot. My guess is touch screen wouldn't work though.
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Yea, I remember reading about the touch screen not working or working in reverse.
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Yea, I remember reading about the touch screen not working or working in reverse.
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Really? So it might work but register touches opposite of our phone?
nolimit78 said:
I find that there are only minor things I need that require root but I no-longer need the overhaul that I needed with HTC. It's too weird.
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This
Damn I wish this would leak for AT&T. 5.0.1 TW has a bigger memory leak than stock 5.0.1 on my Nexus. This needs to be rolled out ASAP, but I know it won't.
Anyone know of any active developement regarding the 925V variant? Way too nice not to have root.
There is zero development.
Zero KNOWN progress. Who knows for sure though. King root might work for us one day or it might not.
There wasn't much development on my tmboile s5 either. What phones do have good development these days?
I guess mostly just Nexus devices.
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There wasn't much development on my tmboile s5 either. What phones do have good development these days?
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I've stuck with my ATT Note3 on TMO, and TMO Note4. My son has a Sprint S6 Edge on TMO and it has surprisingly quite a bit of development. If I knew anything regarding locked vs. unlocked BL's I'd have a go with this 925V. Just really surprised at the lack of development for this device. Sucks!
Unfortunately, it seems that we've been left in the dark. Surely one of the many devs would have a thread going with some sort of progress update if any were working on it.
@spadz93 That's kinda what I'm thinking. Too bad. I use way too many root functions to even consider keeping my 925V. Really nice hardware either way. I'll probably look for a TMO variant.
Verizon sucks anyway. Worst service I've ever had. I liked T-Mobile way better. I have constant dropped calls, missed texts etc with Verizon.
I would pay good money to have some development for this device... without development, its useless... anyone interested? pm me =]
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I would pay good money to have some development for this device... without development, its useless... anyone interested? pm me =]
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it useless... It's still a solid phone with decent hardware. Just because you can't root it and install custom ROMs doesn't make it useless. I'm more interested in a phone that works consistently everyday than I am the ability to push the hardware to the point of random reboots and overheating. Once I gave up root for 5.1 I've had next to zero issues with the phone and I like it much more.
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it useless... It's still a solid phone with decent hardware. Just because you can't root it and install custom ROMs doesn't make it useless. I'm more interested in a phone that works consistently everyday than I am the ability to push the hardware to the point of random reboots and overheating. Once I gave up root for 5.1 I've had next to zero issues with the phone and I like it much more.
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Yea, my statement is a little exaggerated but no xposed is huge for me personally. I like to play with my phone and customize it. Without root and xposed, I can't do that like I could with my s4 so it bothers me
What upsets me is the fact that devs give up trying to root a phone if a solution doesn't come within a month or two, if the phone is the only variant that still doesn't have a root and it will take more effort than a few tweaks to do it. I've seen it over and over again with so many phones. If I knew how to even begin to look for a root on the phone and I had the money to buy phones that I could burn in the process, then I'd totally work at it.
what I dont understand is theres ppl with the Note 4 that are able to root 5.1.1 using King Root and no one has tried it on any firmware beyond OE2 for us yet..
I know one person said it worked for him on OF1 but need more to confirm before I update and update all my ROMs.
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what I dont understand is theres ppl with the Note 4 that are able to root 5.1.1 using King Root and no one has tried it on any firmware beyond OE2 for us yet..
I know one person said it worked for him on OF1 but need more to confirm before I update and update all my ROMs.
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Kingroot does not work... :/ I'm on OK7, FYI.
dSlice said:
Kingroot does not work... :/ I'm on OK7, FYI.
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well theres that lol.. anyone on firmware between OF1 and OG5?
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well theres that lol.. anyone on firmware between OF1 and OG5?
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Right!? It's a damn shame! This phone had so much potential! Maybe the S7... Lol
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Right!? It's a damn shame! This phone had so much potential! Maybe the S7... Lol
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it has been great for me..had since day 1 and been rooted ever since..
only thing missing at this point is twrp/aosp roms/xposed
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it has been great for me..had since day 1 and been rooted ever since..
only thing missing at this point is twrp/aosp roms/xposed
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I enjoy it.... I also had it since day one. I unrooted mine and took the updates. Lol I need AOSP and we were never given the time to achieve it.
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I enjoy it.... I also had it since day one. I unrooted mine and took the updates. Lol I need AOSP and we were never given the time to achieve it.
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agreed.. i might update when marshmallow comes but i also might buy a nexus once my tax return comes to satisfy my rooting needs..
although my aftv2 has been satisfying that lol
About to get warranty replacement phone thru my carrier tomorrow.
Was offered S5 and an alternate to my G3 since they were out of stock.
If you were in my shoes, which phone would you get?!
Thanks in advance
S5
The S5 is still a very capable phone. The display is top notch. It would really depend on what carrier you are with though. I know the att variant cant be rooted or unlocked currently and verizon has theirs locked down too, but as long as it comes with lollipop (5.x.x) software the verizon variant can be unlocked all the way to the bootloader.
as far as i know they are the only two providers who secure the s5 like fort knox. I could be wrong though. I have a verizon variant (900V) and its fully unlocked and rooted. I dont think you'll find a better phone in the same price range.
S5 is still a great phone. Only issues ive had with it over the 28 mos that ive had it is the low light blurryness with the camera and the fact that you have to swipe your thump across the fingerprint scanner. Having to do that nowadays kinda makes it feel dated. Other than those 2 issues, its a great phone!!
I just got an S5 to replace my S4 and I love it. I'm on AT&T and got the Tmobile version for the unlocked bootloader. I would totally get this phone again.
Its a great phone!
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The S5 is still a very capable phone. I have a verizon variant (900V) and its fully unlocked and rooted.
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I have a s5 900v like you (verizon) & got it 12 days ago. . When did you root yours? I *had* lollipop until last Thursday after accidentally pressing the screen through my pocket....which proceded to accept the update I was avoiding. Now I have marshmellow and I'm not happy ???*
Been fishing through XDA and haven't found anything about rooting s5 on mm. Anyone have something to share with me? Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
That's for bootloader unlocking, some Google searching should get you root too
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youdoofus said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
That's for bootloader unlocking, some Google searching should get you root too
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I tried the root method (link within the thread u posted) about a week ago & had problems. To make a long story short, check out my remarks on pages 1-2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help/to-root-t3330514/page2
I'm just looking to root my g900v s5. I don't want to mess around with the bootloader (not yet anyway). I just want root before Marshmellow or verizon release another update to patch the *open* vulnerability.
If the dumb MM update didn't happen I would've had time to find lollipop root. I never had a problem w/ my s4 where the screen would allow a touch through pants or shirt pocket. Thought these things were sensitive to the touch of skin not clothing?? Cause of my problem was losing my s4 over July 4th weekend that I rooted w/ towelroot in 05/2014 (that I just paid off in May over 24 months w/ verizon)
Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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have you tried kingroot? not kingoroot
youdoofus said:
Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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have you tried kingroot? not kingoroot
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is.
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youdoofus said:
Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is. Thanks
Lane W. said:
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is. Thanks
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CLEVER!!! LoL! No, that was actually pretty funny! But oneclick and towel doesnt surprise me, but kingroot has been the "if nothing else works" as of late. I have a root program on my computer that i cant recall the name of off hand, and it does look like a malware program, but its been the go-to when all else fails. Ill look at my desktop icons and remind myself what it is when i get home. Its some chinese .exe is that helps in the interim
found it, its called "v root"
it looks like its malware, but the one i got works fine
here is a bit of an older article that lists it first as a good program to root stuff
http://www.3ptechies.com/9-best-software-apps-to-root-android-devices.html
tiguy99 said:
About to get warranty replacement phone thru my carrier tomorrow.
Was offered S5 and an alternate to my G3 since they were out of stock.
If you were in my shoes, which phone would you get?!
Thanks in advance
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I'd stay clear of Samsung from my experiences:
- issues with warranty and knox
- not easy to customise / flash / fix OEM issues with bloatware, root, other ROM issues that require root
- many variants mean even after 8 years of flashing ROMs, I still can't find what I need in the SGS5 section. I don't know what ROMs can be flashed to my device, the information is sparse and not easy to follow or understand
I'm looking to go back to HTC - they don't mind you rooting / customising (unless this has changed in the last couple years).
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I'd stay clear of Samsung from my experiences:
- issues with warranty and knox
- not easy to customise / flash / fix OEM issues with bloatware, root, other ROM issues that require root
- many variants mean even after 8 years of flashing ROMs, I still can't find what I need in the SGS5 section. I don't know what ROMs can be flashed to my device, the information is sparse and not easy to follow or understand
I'm looking to go back to HTC - they don't mind you rooting / customising (unless this has changed in the last couple years).
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I disagree with this (respectfully). I've never had to return a Samsung because of warranty related issues or return one period, so warranty and Knox are all but irrelevant. Customization is a snap, flashing is a breeze, and bloatware (which is caused by the carrier most often) is easily solved with titanium backup. There are many variants, yes, but all the Roms are cross compatible as long as you flash the snapdragon based processor ones on a snapdragon powered device. The only sgs5s that were problematic were the at&t and (of course) vzw ones because of the carriers deciding to lock the @&$%/!? Bootloaders. Sprint and tmob sgs5s have always been an absolute cakewalk. Hell, I've bricked mine intentionally just to see if I could actually kill it. It's actually harder than one would think to seriously screw up a sgs5 esp a g900p
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I disagree with this (respectfully). I've never had to return a Samsung because of warranty related issues or return one period, so warranty and Knox are all but irrelevant. Customization is a snap, flashing is a breeze, and bloatware (which is caused by the carrier most often) is easily solved with titanium backup. There are many variants, yes, but all the Roms are cross compatible as long as you flash the snapdragon based processor ones on a snapdragon powered device. The only sgs5s that were problematic were the at&t and (of course) vzw ones because of the carriers deciding to lock the @&$%/!? Bootloaders. Sprint and tmob sgs5s have always been an absolute cakewalk. Hell, I've bricked mine intentionally just to see if I could actually kill it. It's actually harder than one would think to seriously screw up a sgs5 esp a g900p
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Hi mate, of course this is a difference of opinion and I'm not posting here to argue with you so much as to give reasons for my post above.
When I say warranty issues, I mean in a sense that if you flash anything to your samsung then you've voided your warranty. If you customise on day 1, knox efuse are blown and it's impossible to revert what you have done. In this case your warranty is voided and samsung can refuse to honour any warranty issues irrelevant to your flashing. Basically you make changes to software on your device and later there is a hardware issue such as microphone not working - samsung don't have to honour that claim.
Flashing is a complete pain in the bum, to be honest. What makes it harder is these forums don't contain all of the information you need in once place. Compared to my previous devices such as HTC, you simply do a wipe and install the new rom. With the samsung you need to do the same PLUS find and flash the correct bootloader and modem. And this isn't even taking into consideration the knox trip issue. The roms aren't cross-compatible unless I've missed that bit of information? You technically can flash a g900F ROM to a g900i but to get it to boot you need to do additional steps. NFC and call recording wont work, though. So, no you can't really flash that way. Samsung may have made it easier for you guys in the USA, not sure.
I disagree about the bloatware statement, samsung have their own rubbish in there as well and most of it is redundant and not necessary. There's a samsung app store and a samsung account thing that lets you find your phone - google has all of that.
Lastly, when you trip knox this actually physically prevents some functionality on your phone, but I've never tried using that functionality anyway (although I did want to try it out). From memory this is a secure parition on the phone that you set up for your work, which is completely separate from the personal things on your phone which can be seen to make it more secure.
All the best,
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Hi mate, of course this is a difference of opinion and I'm not posting here to argue with you so much as to give reasons for my post above.
When I say warranty issues, I mean in a sense that if you flash anything to your samsung then you've voided your warranty. If you customise on day 1, knox efuse are blown and it's impossible to revert what you have done. In this case your warranty is voided and samsung can refuse to honour any warranty issues irrelevant to your flashing. Basically you make changes to software on your device and later there is a hardware issue such as microphone not working - samsung don't have to honour that claim.
Flashing is a complete pain in the bum, to be honest. What makes it harder is these forums don't contain all of the information you need in once place. Compared to my previous devices such as HTC, you simply do a wipe and install the new rom. With the samsung you need to do the same PLUS find and flash the correct bootloader and modem. And this isn't even taking into consideration the knox trip issue. The roms aren't cross-compatible unless I've missed that bit of information? You technically can flash a g900F ROM to a g900i but to get it to boot you need to do additional steps. NFC and call recording wont work, though. So, no you can't really flash that way. Samsung may have made it easier for you guys in the USA, not sure.
I disagree about the bloatware statement, samsung have their own rubbish in there as well and most of it is redundant and not necessary. There's a samsung app store and a samsung account thing that lets you find your phone - google has all of that.
Lastly, when you trip knox this actually physically prevents some functionality on your phone, but I've never tried using that functionality anyway (although I did want to try it out). From memory this is a secure parition on the phone that you set up for your work, which is completely separate from the personal things on your phone which can be seen to make it more secure.
All the best,
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I wasn't trying to argue either. It's rather hard to express tone over text I've just never had any trouble with flashing stuff on a Samsung since the epic touch 4g. Htcs have that goofy bootloader unlock that has to be done via htcdev.com. The newest Samsung I'd be willing to use is the S5 anyways because of the removable battery, external storage and waterproofing. The s6 sucks and the s7 has that dumb encrypted storage that made root hard for a while. Samsung's are far from perfect, and I'd likely be looking at a OnePlus or a Huawei in the future if I was shopping for a phone, but for those looking at either the second hand market, refurbs or a new one available for stupid cheap, S5s are great phones still.
Again, 0 arguing from me, like you said, just a differing opinion. Cheers mate! Btw, judging my the terms you used, I take it that you're in the UK, and thank goodness Jeremy Clarkson and the boys are back!!
youdoofus said:
CLEVER!!! LoL! No, that was actually pretty funny!
found it, its called "v root". it looks like its malware, but the one i got works fine
here is a bit of an older article that lists it first as a good program to root stuff
http://www.3ptechies.com/9-best-software-apps-to-root-android-devices.html
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Should I use the links in this "older article" to possibly get to vroot? Or do you have something more current? Thanks
Lane W. said:
Should I use the links in this "older article" to possibly get to vroot? Or do you have something more current? Thanks
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Vroot has a site. Lemme look
http://vrootdownload.info/download/
youdoofus said:
Vroot has a site. Lemme look
http://vrootdownload.info/download/
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Fantastic, thanks. Just to be sure, I want to use the one click root APK the part at the top under the first description, correct? The second section, as far as I can tell, is for iroot via a PC?
Is Titanium compatible with this method of root? What about recovery? Does Vroot have its own method or could I use TWRP or SafeStrap? Have you had any complications with the modem or WiFi using your device with Vroot?
Thank you!!
youdoofus said:
I wasn't trying to argue either. It's rather hard to express tone over text
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Again, 0 arguing from me, like you said, just a differing opinion. Cheers mate! Btw, judging my the terms you used, I take it that you're in the UK, and thank goodness Jeremy Clarkson and the boys are back!!
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I said that I wasn't arguing for that very reason - I didn't want my second post to come across in a negative way. I could see that your post had come across in a good light and wanted to keep it that way
I am from UK but living in Australia at the moment. I last heard that Chris Evans has gone from the new Top Gear - thank F... for that, he's the biggest pleb going and watching the first couple of episodes were extremely painful and cringy. A number of things Chris said in the first show were somewhat not completely correct and I eventually switched it off.
Really looking forward to watching Clarkson and the gang - they're entertaining. Their top gear was more like a sit-com, which is what it's grown into and it works pretty well. Anyone in the family can watch it even if they know nothing about cars - I'll have to google for it because I don't know any details about their new show.
I have the Samsung Galaxy S10 Prism White SM-G973U Snapdragon US Cellular. It is running Android 10. With the security patch of March 1, 2020. The build number is: G973USQS3CTB5.
My question is, is there a TWRP build for this phone? And can this phone work with Project Treble GSI?
The bootloader is locked so no root or TWRP for any U.S. or Canadian variants aside from the Sprint 5G version.
StoneyJSG said:
The bootloader is locked so no root or TWRP for any U.S. or Canadian variants aside from the Sprint 5G version.
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But the bootloader can be unlocked?
secretwolf98 said:
But the bootloader can be unlocked?
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On the exynos variants it can. Not on the snapdragon models aside from the Sprint 5G version.
StoneyJSG said:
On the exynos variants it can. Not on the snapdragon models aside from the Sprint 5G version.
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That sucks. Why is that?
secretwolf98 said:
That sucks. Why is that?
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because thats how its been for years
StoneyJSG said:
The bootloader is locked so no root or TWRP for any U.S. or Canadian variants aside from the Sprint 5G version.
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I've heard how locked bootloaders work and I still think that someday we can find a way around it. I know about TrustZones. I know about all of those things and I still think that I can do it. I'm not saying it'll be easy. I'm still learning how to program so it might be a while before you see my TrustZone security crack but trust me, I WILL DO IT! This is not a ****post btw.
Melsbacksfriend said:
I've heard how locked bootloaders work and I still think that someday we can find a way around it. I know about TrustZones. I know about all of those things and I still think that I can do it. I'm not saying it'll be easy. I'm still learning how to program so it might be a while before you see my TrustZone security crack but trust me, I WILL DO IT! This is not a ****post btw.
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Good luck! It's locked pretty tight. Even elliwigy couldn't crack it and he's the guy that made root possible for the note 8 or S7 I think it was.
StoneyJSG said:
Good luck! It's locked pretty tight. Even elliwigy couldn't crack it and he's the guy that made root possible for the note 8 or S7 I think it was.
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and now s9 s9+ n9
Oh wow root for the S9? That means root for the S10 eventually is hopeful.
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Oh wow root for the S9? That means root for the S10 eventually is hopeful.
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root methods are patched on 10 and newer devices
Well darn. At least the Galaxy S thru S9 has root now.
I think I'm close to cracking s10 g973u is variant I'm needing a partner not scared to join my venture
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I'm new to xda but not to coding and cracking the so called impossible I professionally "hack" you could say I recently bought the phone from somebody who bought thinking they could root it and they sold it after they read the forums Haha got it for basically nothing anybody willing to assist please got me up I do already have custom rom installed just having problems with ui and rebooting
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I'm new to xda but not to coding and cracking the so called impossible I professionally "hack" you could say I recently bought the phone from somebody who bought thinking they could root it and they sold it after they read the forums Haha got it for basically nothing anybody willing to assist please got me up I do already have custom rom installed just having problems with ui and rebooting
trentvamps said:
I think I'm close to cracking s10 g973u is variant I'm needing a partner not scared to join my venture
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I'm new to xda but not to coding and cracking the so called impossible I professionally "hack" you could say I recently bought the phone from somebody who bought thinking they could root it and they sold it after they read the forums Haha got it for basically nothing anybody willing to assist please got me up I do already have custom rom installed just having problems with ui and rebooting
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I'm new to xda but not to coding and cracking the so called impossible I professionally "hack" you could say I recently bought the phone from somebody who bought thinking they could root it and they sold it after they read the forums Haha got it for basically nothing anybody willing to assist please got me up I do already have custom rom installed just having problems with ui and rebooting
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LOL
So @trentvamps has a working custom ROM on a G973U phone? How is this possible without root access?
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So @trentvamps has a working custom ROM on a G973U phone? How is this possible without root access?
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its not and he doesnt
I do i took none traditional direction by removing emmc and writing g973f firmware and pretty much destroyed the phone cosmetically in processs but it. Was simple once removed its boots but omg its jacked the frank up as far as performance goes possibly hardware conflicts but i think there might be something here as far as development goes
trentvamps said:
I do i took none traditional direction by removing emmc and writing g973f firmware and pretty much destroyed the phone cosmetically in processs but it. Was simple once removed its boots but omg its jacked the frank up as far as performance goes possibly hardware conflicts but i think there might be something here as far as development goes
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i think u are mistaken.. if u supposedly removed emmc then howd you write anything to the device?
you are simply saying things ppl dont really know what it even means but not providing any details or proof of what you are claiming to have done.
even if wat ur saying is remorely true it doesnt sound like you were successful, seems to be a hardware mod as well as you damaged the device among other issues which tells me even if you arent blowing hot air that it isnt obtaining root, twrp or anything and isnt going to apply to the avg user.
ppl can take what you say with a grain of salt. you arent the first random person to pop in claiming to achieve what no one has achieved in years and in the end turned out to be bogus.
with that being said i hope you prove me wrong but without more info or proof i will continue to believe its fake news.
elliwigy said:
i think u are mistaken.. if u supposedly removed emmc then howd you write anything to the device?
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He removed it, wrote to it, and put it back in and secured it with duct tape... :laugh:
trentvamps said:
I do i took none traditional direction by removing emmc and writing g973f firmware and pretty much destroyed the phone cosmetically in processs but it. Was simple once removed its boots but omg its jacked the frank up as far as performance goes possibly hardware conflicts but i think there might be something here as far as development goes
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In other words, you have nothing, nada, zilch, squat, diddly, diddly-squat, naught, jack, zip