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Paypal SUCKS

Ok guys so I sold a few things at the end of last week, was able to take payments fine. Yesterday I tried to transfer the cash to my checking account and it went fine. So I wake up this morning and am on my way to get to the post office to ship everything off and I decide just to check paypal for some reason. Amazingly I see that paypal has reversed my withdraw and permanently suspended my acount. So after 3 calls I was able to get everyone's money back to them.
What I want to know is what is the best way to accept payment NOT paypal? Both Amazon payments and google checkout say that the first payment can take between 2 weeks and 60 days. And I don't want to wait that long obviously so what are the other options?

That really sucks. Did they give you a reason for locking the account?
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Bank Transfer?

bsbokc said:
Ok guys so I sold a few things at the end of last week, was able to take payments fine. Yesterday I tried to transfer the cash to my checking account and it went fine. So I wake up this morning and am on my way to get to the post office to ship everything off and I decide just to check paypal for some reason. Amazingly I see that paypal has reversed my withdraw and permanently suspended my acount. So after 3 calls I was able to get everyone's money back to them.
What I want to know is what is the best way to accept payment NOT paypal? Both Amazon payments and google checkout say that the first payment can take between 2 weeks and 60 days. And I don't want to wait that long obviously so what are the other options?
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It may be from a lot of activity on your account. They locked my account once and I called and they said in the last 3 days I had did over $1,000 transfers and that was fishy/questionable....so they just lifted the hold and I have been good ever since than.
Do you have a personal account on paypal or a business account. I think that makes somewhat of a difference.
Also I think a lot of people have been successful with bank transfers.
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This happened to me that's why I don't use them
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just get started on your first amazon payments transaction. after that it'll be quicker.
Even if you find a better way, in a month or 2 you'll at least have a backup option.
Paypal and ebay are starting to piss me off too. Thinking about quitting ebay altogether.
I have a pp business acct (not sure how, but i do) and haven't had an issue like this.

charlieb620 said:
It may be from a lot of activity on your account. They locked my account once and I called and they said in the last 3 days I had did over $1,000 transfers and that was fishy/questionable....so they just lifted the hold and I have been good ever since than.
Do you have a personal account on paypal or a business account. I think that makes somewhat of a difference.
Also I think a lot of people have been successful with bank transfers.
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It was definitely over $1000 but they gave me no option to explain anything they said my account activity was suspicious and therefor closed my account.
And about bank transfers, might as well be Western Union. Who on here is really going to do that?

knux11 said:
just get started on your first amazon payments transaction. after that it'll be quicker.
Even if you find a better way, in a month or 2 you'll at least have a backup option.
Paypal and ebay are starting to piss me off too. Thinking about quitting ebay altogether.
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Ebay is basically legal rape.
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knux11 said:
just get started on your first amazon payments transaction. after that it'll be quicker.
Even if you find a better way, in a month or 2 you'll at least have a backup option.
Paypal and ebay are starting to piss me off too. Thinking about quitting ebay altogether.
I have a pp business acct (not sure how, but i do) and haven't had an issue like this.
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Ya I quit PayPal so that means I automatically quit eBay since they only allow PayPal.

bsbokc said:
It was definitely over $1000 but they gave me no option to explain anything they said my account activity was suspicious and therefor closed my account.
And about bank transfers, might as well be Western Union. Who on here is really going to do that?
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I figured it was.... that happened to me about 2 months ago but I just logged in and they had a hold on my funds so I called and spoke to a supervisor and he said it was suspicious activity and I said I had money coming from reimbursements blah blah blah and they lifted it and said make sure u have a note when u do such transactions.
Bank transactions are sorta like Western union. I only seen one transaction done with that. The closest Western union to me is a hr away.
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bsbokc said:
Ya I quit PayPal so that means I automatically quit eBay since they only allow PayPal.
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I'm surprised they didn't give you a call. I too had done over $1000 in transactions in a matter of days. A representative called me to see what was up and I explained to them what was going on. Didn't suspend my account.

Other then awful customer service payoal is ok
Always speak to. A supervisor
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You can use Square to take payments but then the buyer has to give you his credit card number

I would call and get the account back. That will pretty much cut you short here as well. Unless they do COD
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I only do western union and Usps money orders now.
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Check our Serve, Its by American Express. It can do all the good things PayPal can, but the best part about it, NO FEES! And they have android, ISO, and blackberry apps.
Just go to serve.com and check it out.

Ha. I agree with the title of this thread so much.
After 2 deals on here with only $200 dollars involved, they randomly canceled me. Forever. Permanently. For no reason.
They're a joke, but I'm glad to see a few alternatives in this thread.
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Killer Bee said:
Bank Transfer?
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I myself always made my payments trough bank transfer. But never outside the country.
Anyone with thoughts on this method? About security and what not.. ?

i wonder how long before they lock me up again lol. the reason they hold our money is because they make money off of the interest the longer its held. a legal scam. im surprised the feds havent looked into paypal yet.

PayPal is holding $800 of my money right now.. told me it will be 180 days till they send me a check.. NEVER AGAIN WILL I USE PAYPAL..
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WHAT!! - This payment method has been declined.

I had my family buy a bunch of google play gift cards for my son for Christmas.
We've been purchasing apps without a problem until today. I went to purchase Greedy Spiders for $0.99 and I could not use the Google Play gift cards. The card was greyed out with a message right below the cards stating "This payment method has been declined.", but noting a balance of $12.05.
I called Google Play support and had to go through 3 calls and 6 support reps before one finally addressed the problem. The developer of the app is not allowing payment using Google Play gift cards. The developer of the app only accepts payment by credit card. This seems crazy to me. It's kinda like going to BestBuy and being unable to use BestBuy gift cards to buy a Sony TV because Sony only accepts credit card payment.
I'm not sure how many other developers are not accepting Google Play as a payment method, but I wanted to share the story.

BostonDan2 said:
I had my family buy a bunch of google play gift cards for my son for Christmas.
We've been purchasing apps without a problem until today. I went to purchase Greedy Spiders for $0.99 and I could not use the Google Play gift cards. The card was greyed out with a message right below the cards stating "This payment method has been declined.", but noting a balance of $12.05.
I called Google Play support and had to go through 3 calls and 6 support reps before one finally addressed the problem. The developer of the app is not allowing payment using Google Play gift cards. The developer of the app only accepts payment by credit card. This seems crazy to me. It's kinda like going to BestBuy and being unable to use BestBuy gift cards to buy a Sony TV because Sony only accepts credit card payment.
I'm not sure how many other developers are not accepting Google Play as a payment method, but I wanted to share the story.
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Wow that's pretty ridiculous. First I've heard of that. I guess greedy spiders isn't just the name of the game haha.
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cjsspape said:
Wow that's pretty ridiculous. First I've heard of that. I guess greedy spiders isn't just the name of the game haha.
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yep. Aren't those gift cards supposed to help protect you from compromising your personal information online? ID theft is a pretty huge problem nowdays. I would be wary of doing business with that developer....

While I'm certain this vendor is the exception to the majority as I've had an Android phone for years and never experienced this, there will always be some vendors unless Google changes their policies to prevent developers from doing this. IMHO, I blame Google more than anyone. Google should not be providing developers the option to exclude Google Play gift cards when developers sell their products through the Google Play store.

I just came across this issue too but it seems to be for EVERY app or movie i have tried to download. I have a google play balance of $85 that seems to be utterly useless now! I need to do more research into this because this is just not acceptable and i feel extremely cheated. This is the first thread i came across so thought i would share my experience. If anyone has any input or an alternate reason as to why i can no longet use my play credit to make purchases i would be very interested to know.

Well with respect, Google Play is more like Amazon or EBay as such they allow anyone to write an app and publish it. And since Google is a world wide service, some countries may not or be able to accept that gift card service.
It happens but it is rare. We dealt with this with the initial $25 Play Store credit we got with our Nexus 7s. A very few developers wouldn't/couldn't accept the Gift Cards...
Or maybe it is a time factor. Maybe the listings have to be updated to accept gift cards?
I don't see a huge issue with this. I personally like the idea that devs can choose their method of choice.
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My problem with that is that i cant find a single app, movie, or song i can download with my play store balance. If there is NO devs that are going to accept gift cards as payment then Google needs to reimburse me for the money I already put out on their gift cards to download from their store which now seems to be completely void. If i knew i was going to be put in this position when i spent $150 on gift cards i would have never bought them. They claim on the card they are good for all purchases from the store apart from tangible products and when outside the US. I will be calling them tomorrow during business hours to bring this issue up.
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err.....just stay away from that app?
if a dev is only accepting credit cards and not gift cards from the google market theyre app is being sold on...seems very dodgy

chismay said:
err.....just stay away from that app?
if a dev is only accepting credit cards and not gift cards from the google market theyre app is being sold on...seems very dodgy
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I agree. When I got my N7, I had no problem using my $25. Seems fishy to me. It shouldn't matter if the money came from a gift card, green is green.
And I was just thinking about getting a gift card for the Play Store. After reading this though, maybe I should try something different.

Well now.. that is pretty retarded.

If your goal in writing an app is to harvest credit card information, it makes perfect sense.
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rmm200 said:
If your goal in writing an app is to harvest credit card information, it makes perfect sense.
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Well isn't the the name of the app called "Greedy Spiders " don't trust it I'm not getting stuck in his web!
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SOLUTION
BostonDan2 said:
I had my family buy a bunch of google play gift cards for my son for Christmas.
We've been purchasing apps without a problem until today. I went to purchase Greedy Spiders for $0.99 and I could not use the Google Play gift cards. The card was greyed out with a message right below the cards stating "This payment method has been declined.", but noting a balance of $12.05.
I called Google Play support and had to go through 3 calls and 6 support reps before one finally addressed the problem. The developer of the app is not allowing payment using Google Play gift cards. The developer of the app only accepts payment by credit card. This seems crazy to me. It's kinda like going to BestBuy and being unable to use BestBuy gift cards to buy a Sony TV because Sony only accepts credit card payment.
I'm not sure how many other developers are not accepting Google Play as a payment method, but I wanted to share the story.
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Hi, I know it's a bit late but I have just found a SOLUTION to this problem. You can solve this by creating another Gmail account and using the same payment method as this problem is not related to the the payment method but the account as I have found. Go into Settings>Accounts>Add Account>Google>New. Then create a new Google account which will work alongside your present Google account and NOT replace it. Go to the Play store and swipe right across the screen and you will see a drop down menu from your present Google account going into the Google account you just made. Use this new account to purchase the application. The application will be downloaded to your phone hopefully without your "payment method being declined" .

First I've heard of sellers even getting that opton. It's not on my developer console. How would the developer know anyway? The income isn't broken down by method of payment. nothing related on the merchant account either.
I suspect a glitch rather than anything deliberate.
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rmm200 said:
If your goal in writing an app is to harvest credit card information, it makes perfect sense.
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App writers never see credit card information. Only the payment processor (in this case google) does.

Has your promotional Google Play Balance expired yet?

I bought my Nexus 7 last year when I lived in the US. I also redeemed the $25 promotional Google Play Balance and I used it but for $0.87.
Now I'm stuck in a very strange situation. The balance should have expired on September 30th 2013, but I still can see it on my Google Wallet.
Unfortunately that's quite an issue for be because in the meanwhile I relocated to Italy and last week I opened a Google Play Developer account.
I'd like to make my account a merchant account but I can't since until I have Google Play Balance I cannot "move" the account from my old american address to my new italian address.
Did Google already remove your expired Google Play Balance?

This actually sounds like something customer support can fix for you. Give them a call.
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After I started this thread I contacted Google but they cannot help me.
They said they are going to introduce the possibility to move accounts but until they do I'm out of luck
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Google has been helpful support wise in the past for me. Just ask them to remove your balance. Trying a new rep a few times might help, sometimes there is someone go goes above and beyond what they are asked for.

I still have like a $0.03 balance and I bought on launch day.

BUDDY BUYING THREAD for the Nexus 5

As the new Nexus 5 is only available in some country`s through the Playstore it would be nice if users we`re willing to order a Nexus 5 for those that have no access to the Playstore and are forced to pay a lot more in local stores. All personal conversations are off course private and are to be dealt with through PM or Email.
Please sign up here if you want to particpate and post your location (Country and City) so users can contact you. It would realy only be fair that the participants deserve a (small) compensation for their efforts..
It would be even better if XDA started a thread/service like this
Post your country/city in this thread or PM me so i can post it in the OP which would be better and easier
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Sounds great.
But for those who are uncomfortable with all this stuff, comgateway can help you buy the devices or you could ship the device there and they will reship it to your location using DHL.
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Mach3.2 said:
Sounds great.
But for those who are uncomfortable with all this stuff, comgateway can help you buy the devices or you could ship the device there and they will reship it to your location using DHL.
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I allready found this one http://www.weship-it.com/Home/Dutch, but i prefer a European device to be honest.

Would love it if someone could get one for me. Will of course compensate you.
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Interesting, I might be able to buy two to save on shipping, wondering if anyone is in the Brampton / Mississauga area (Ontario)
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It's a really good idea, but i don't think any italian user can help for this service due to the price...usually in italy we have the highest price in europe. but, we will see

Lamerlengo said:
It's a really good idea, but i don't think any italian user can help for this service due to the price...usually in italy we have the highest price in europe. but, we will see
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True, but many European, Asian and African users that can`t buy from Google Play would be greatly helped

Lamerlengo said:
It's a really good idea, but i don't think any italian user can help for this service due to the price...usually in italy we have the highest price in europe. but, we will see
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Italian price will be the same of others Europena countries (Spain, France, Germany, despite of the iDevices prices)

What type of compensation are people willing to provide outside of the shipping costs?

This sounds like a terrible idea to be honest.
Not to bring my cloud of negativity but you know somebody is going to do the wrong thing and ruin this for everybody else.
Charge back scams, people pocketing the money and not sending the devices. etc etc.

the1onewolf said:
This sounds like a terrible idea to be honest.
Not to bring my cloud of negativity but you know somebody is going to do the wrong thing and ruin this for everybody else.
Charge back scams, people pocketing the money and not sending the devices. etc etc.
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What a party pooper! Geez!!!!
Now, everyone send me your cash, Paypal login, or credit card information and I'd be very happy to buy you several Nexus 5's. Just out of the goodness of my heart.I will not even expect any small compensation for my efforts. It's the least I can do for my XDA friends.

kimtyson said:
What a party pooper! Geez!!!!
Now, everyone send me your cash, Paypal login, or credit card information and I'd be very happy to buy you several Nexus 5's. Just out of the goodness of my heart.I will not even expect any small compensation for my efforts. It's the least I can do for my XDA friends.
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I'm to lazy to stay and wait for the release and keep pressing F5 on my computer, I just want to sleep in. Please get me 5 (1 for me and 4 to resell)

If there is a person works in a good faith could do me a favor to send one to Hong Kong.....
If the device is compatible (4G LTG banding) to HK...

Noted the price you might pay to have it imported might be not much more then what it would cost locally. If you get the 32gig version at $400 the final checkout price will probably be about $460 after tax and shipping. Then add the cost of shipping overseas and you're nearing $500 if the person who does this doesn't charge you a fee. If your local retailer sells the 32gig version for 500 euros then is the extra savings really worth the potential of being scammed?
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psychoace said:
Noted the price you might pay to have it imported might be not much more then what it would cost locally. If you get the 32gig version at $400 the final checkout price will probably be about $460 after tax and shipping. Then add the cost of shipping overseas and you're nearing $500 if the person who does this doesn't charge you a fee. If your local retailer sells the 32gig version for 500 euros then is the extra savings really worth the potential of being scammed?
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500 USD is 363 euro`s, i for one find the difference quite big. But the problem for some users is that they don`t trust each other as shown in the nagative comments on this thread
Request this thread beeing closed/deleted, my intentions we`re good but don`t like where its going

Thread closed as per OPs request..

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