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T-Mobile GS2 or Nexus Galaxy or something else?

I recently got an offer from T-Mobile and I got a free gs2 should I Keep it or should I sell it to buy a Galaxy Nexus? Im also thinking of switching to a Nokia WP7 been a long time Nokia Fan hardware but I'm confused as hell what would you guys do?
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Try it out, see if you like it. I tried it out at the store, but it felt too big. The Galaxy Nexus might be the same size, but I hated the resolution on the GS2. 480x800 spread out on a 4.5in screen is so ugly. It feels like I should be able to put so much more stuff on it, especially since I was coming from my loaner Sensation, which has a 4.3in qHD screen. I honestly see no reason to buy the GS2 over the G-Nex, unless price is a factor.
Former Nexus One owner.

Galaxy nexus definitely. Nothing beats being the first (sometimes only for many months) to get OS updates. The HD resolution is a significant plus as well.
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dnlsmy said:
Try it out, see if you like it. I tried it out at the store, but it felt too big. The Galaxy Nexus might be the same size, but I hated the resolution on the GS2. 480x800 spread out on a 4.5in screen is so ugly. It feels like I should be able to put so much more stuff on it, especially since I was coming from my loaner Sensation, which has a 4.3in qHD screen. I honestly see no reason to buy the GS2 over the G-Nex, unless price is a factor.
Former Nexus One owner.
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I actually used for a bit like 3 hrs I found it to be a great phone compared to my N1 but I felt like it was missing something I couldn't pointed out it felt so simple I think the hardware felt played out but I been spoiled by nice materials. as far as the price I think if its over 600 bucks is a no go for me is too much for a phone that might be old specs in the middle of 2012.
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Galaxy nexus definitely. Nothing beats being the first (sometimes only for many months) to get OS updates. The HD resolution is a significant plus as well. I think I lean more on the Nexus been able to tether for free and been unbranded and unlock. but lately T-mobile service has been giving me crap about updating my data I hope this doesnt happen with the New Nexus
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As far a price is concerned I'm expecting the GSM version to be 529 off-contract like the previous Nexus phones.
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SGS2 wins on hardware. Galaxy Nexus wins on software. What do you like better?

I'm looking at the Amaze 4G and the Galaxy Nexus. I'm leaning more towards Galaxy Nexus.

bleach168 said:
SGS2 wins on hardware. Galaxy Nexus wins on software. What do you like better?
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lolwat.

ksocoolwitit said:
I'm looking at the Amaze 4G and the Galaxy Nexus. I'm leaning more towards Galaxy Nexus.
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The amaze 4g looks amazing too bad I can't see my self dealing with Sense.
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lolwat.
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SGS2 wins on hardware. Galaxy Nexus wins on software. What do you like better?
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I think the galaxy has this premium look with the HD display and the curved glass as far as the TI Omap processor vs the Exinos I have no idea what would perform better but I know the GS2 from TMo carries the same processor as the amaze.

Just go for the galaxy nexus. I'm sure you won't regret it. The software was optimized for the hardware plus the timely updates won't give you headaches. Wait for the reviews though.

Do you guys think it will be released soon before January or you guys think that verizon will get the exclusive for a few months? I don't think I can wait LOL

They haven't announced anything for US GSM carriers so I would think this will be at last a 2 month exclusivity. By then the source will be released so I doubt I would be able to buy a T-Mo version before trying ICS on my N1.

If you're not bothered about which carrier you're on then I would seriously consider a droid RAZR instead of either of those two. I know technically its worse than both but there's something really high quality in the feel of Moto's new UI that I just can't quite put my finger on and it wouldn't be a huge wait until ICS either (I think it'll probably get it before GSII). Anyway thats just my own humble opinion, consider or ignore it as you wish.
Also it's probably worth me pointing out that I do live in the UK so things like carrier decisions and multiple GSII variants simply are not a concern here. We have one GSII and its on every carrier. Nearly all phones here are on every carrier. Just thought I'd add that in there.

LG quality

OK so real quick...I've spent some time with lg devices in the past. One being the lg thrill which I was particularly not fond of maybe cuz it was my wife's phone and maybe cuz I was using a Samsung infuse at the time on att. Also my mom had some lg pre-smartphone thing a few years ago that was so ugly and cheap feeling.
I really want to think this device will be amazing but am i the only one who is a little bit nervous for Google on this device? Maybe I missing something or maybe I'm just plain weird but can someone tell me? Can lg pull this thing off ? I mean all of Google Android reputations are counting on this device to knock it out of the park!!! Is it gonna happen?!?!? Even for $350???
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If they couldn't pull it off, Google would of chose another company (like Samsung)

the body build quality would be much better than samsung crappy plastic, I had S2, S3 and note but I hated all of they are bodies lol.
Never going to use sammy, moto would be a great choice btw for nexus

Apparently the build quality is very good, but the glass back could be a worry, Josh Topolsky got a review unit, and apparently the glass on the back broke pretty easily, so that's definitely a concern.
More information about 40 minutes into this podcast

As far as I can tell, LG high end devices have more or less always been top notch in hardware quality.
Where they suck is with software but with a Nexus device, the software side is fully controlled by Google so...

I personally think it's going to be much better than Samsung's plastic devices. It's Google - have some faith. They oversaw the entire process.

read this article and it should clear a few things up
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...e-bar-for-design-materials-and-build-quality/
solid build quality, and the sparkly back isnt as crazy as it looks in pictures

NienorGT said:
As far as I can tell, LG high end devices have more or less always been top notch in hardware quality.
Where they suck is with software but with a Nexus device, the software side is fully controlled by Google so...
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That's what I am thinking, neigh, hoping. My daughter has my old LG G2x, which I dumped because of lack of drivers (some of which was the fault of NVIDIA IIRC).

DonDizzurp said:
read this article and it should clear a few things up
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...e-bar-for-design-materials-and-build-quality/
solid build quality, and the sparkly back isnt as crazy as it looks in pictures
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Um yeah...no doubt...thanks...sounds good!
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"What about the quality?" Was wondering the same...And countless places, numerous people have said, its wayyyyy better than SamScum...
Im pretty kicked about the NX4! It looks exactly like the device I had dreamed of as my next device...
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA....."Well the Gnex looks like it just walked out of a garbage heap when compared to the N4." this made my day!!
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read this article and it should clear a few things up
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...e-bar-for-design-materials-and-build-quality/
solid build quality, and the sparkly back isnt as crazy as it looks in pictures
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Thanx man...nice article...

It's definitely higher quality, but it's not going to look too good if the glass gets cracked easily

I'm honestly more concerned about the price of replacement glass back. With the price of most phones outright I usually rely on selling what I currently have to fund my addiction for changing phones so often. I also don't like selling phones that are damaged and will usually go out of my way to at least recommend a cheap place for replacement parts if the buyer doesn't like any scuffs or scratches. I hope the price of the backs is about the same as the iPhone 4 backs which are only around $25 to $30 max.

LG
I too was a bit skeptical about this phone due to the fact it is made by LG, but after reading the first looks and early reviews of this phone; The nexus 4 looks very promising. I am hoping it will be an upgrade from the technology and build quality of the galaxy s3!

Buy skinomi skin or stick on tempered glass. Or a case. Otherwise, don't drop it.

It really sounds like LG stepped their game up in terms of design and build quality with the Optimus G/Nexus 4 so I wouldn't hold their past too strongly against them. Sounds like they're trying to turn a new leaf in terms of industrial quality.
I was skeptical at first but this is why I'm willing to give them a chance here. I didn't think much of Samsung as a phone manufacturer until the Galaxy S. I'd like to see this as well as the Optimus G be a win for LG and turn them into a relevant competitor in the Android field. It shouldn't only be HTC/Samsung (well, really just Samsung) eating.
Biggest thing LG can do from here is fix their rep in terms of software updates. Again, Samsung used to be the worst at this and got destroyed for it by users. They have largely been able to redeem themselves and it's paid off for them. Hope LG takes it as a lesson.

i thought the perfect combo was
LG hardware
and
Google software
because samsung build quality is totally meh!
try HTC? their phone are beautiful....but ive bever heard much about their build quality...
i know that LG atleast woulsnt compronise in hardware

theoneofgod said:
If they couldn't pull it off, Google would of chose another company (like Samsung)
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true but I think google wanted to be fair and give LG(a major android OEM) a nexus cause so far it only has been htc and Samsung. Motorola isn't a big deal since its owned by google now.

Jamal Ahmed said:
i thought the perfect combo was
LG hardware
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Google software
because samsung build quality is totally meh!
try HTC? their phone are beautiful....but ive bever heard much about their build quality...
i know that LG atleast woulsnt compronise in hardware
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Got an og evo 4g from HTC build quality is great and broke the screen in 2 years and its met concrete a few times. Plastic ring around it isn't so great tho.
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barondebxl said:
true but I think google wanted to be fair and give LG(a major android OEM) a nexus cause so far it only has been htc and Samsung. Motorola isn't a big deal since its owned by google now.
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I disagree. Nexus is kind of like the face of Android. It is THE Google phone. If the Nexus 4 does bad, it will make Android look bad, as this one (along with the 7 and 10) and trying to get the Nexus name out there.
Now, as for LG, i agree with what everyone else says. LG has GREAT hardware, but lacks on the software support. I'm on my 5th LG phone because I've always been satisfied with the (two dumb phones, three smartphones). However, my current phone has been a slight disappointment, but, as also mentioned, Nvidia is partial to blame.
In any case, my plan was to buy a $350 Galaxy Nexus, but now that I can't, I'm going to buy a $350 Nexus 4 and be an LG owner for the sixth time in a row.
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Google wouldn't want to make Android look bad! True!
LG has good hardware though.Better than Samsung man!
Though i really wanted an Xperia Nexus (don't kill me)

Nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3

I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA

Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.

rault18 said:
I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
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Great review. Wow, the nex 4 screen looks beautiful.
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.

TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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If it wasn't for the nex 4 I would have gotten either an gs3 or a note2. The GS3 is definitely a decent phone. Still for the money I think the nex wins.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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SO DAMN TRUE!!!
And you see people saying oh look how fast it is, and the previous device was a nokia with flashlight or an iphone
WTH! -_-

For my two pence worth I had the s3 went back to my gnex awaiting the n4. I love just stock. Also I agree with the comment above about going back to operator logos on handsets. Its hideous. I know why they do it but its horrid. As for the s3 it was very very fast and more than enough for most but after 4 months of use and adding all my stuff to the device it did slow a bit. Not a huge amount by any means but for hard core users it was there plus I couldn't live with the dismal redraw issue when coming out of apps yo the home screen . I know the Gnex is far from perfect but besides battery life I would have the Gnex as my every day phone anytime. So I decided to go for the n4 as my main phone for the next year as it should perform just the same but look better and have a bit more use with the bigger battery although I know tests don't show it being much better. A little would do me. Anyway awesome video and thank you for taking the time to do it
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manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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+1 on this.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. For a user like myself in the states, the lack of LTE was the deciding factor for me between the GSIII and N4. I wouldn't call myself general population and I know what Android is, lol.
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Galaxy series is brilliant, but touchwiz is a piece of shyte next to stock android. Also there's no substitute for getting updates on time.

The Nex 4 looks nice, but not having a removable battery like my old EvoLTE and only having 16GB of storage without the ability to upgrade are killers for me. The GS3 development community is Legit as well. I only have 4GB left on my microSD and 3GB left on my onboard 16GB GS3. The battery and storage issues are a Fail IMHO for the Nex4. There is no way I could use it as my everyday camera, video recorder, offline music player, and document storage device. Also, when traveling out of town, you realize how much having extra batteries around makes things a whole lot easier, especially when you are using your phone as a GPS and listening to your offline music on flights (I did have the mobile battery juice device when I had the EvoLTE but it really didn't help).
I use Nova Launcher and HD Widgets so no need for TouchWiz. I will say the Sense and TouchWiz Calendar and Appointments look and function way better than the stock Android Calendar.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google. It's nice to be able to call someone within a text conversation just by putting the phone to your face or to have the screen automatically stay on as long as you're looking at it. These are features that I actually consider highly useful in the real world. Flame away, but with today's processing power and Samsung's openness to bootloader unlocking and dev community, I actually consider pure Google to be a step backwards FOR ME.
Glad that you guys are starting to get your phones though. I canceled after I received the bo email.
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I got a SGH-I747 from Telus. Paid $0 for it.
It's "only" a dual core, but it has 2 gigs of RAM. And not a single logo on the front.
I'm running CM10 on it. With the 4.2 keyboard and camera/gallery. So maybe I don't know what Android is all about.
I might still get a N4 if Google ever allows me to buy one. But for now, I'm enjoying my S3 very much.

I can't wait for my n4 please please let it arrive this week!!
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I love my Nexus and exclusively buy Nexus brand phones ever since the Nexus S, but I wouldn't call the GS3 just a device for the general consumer. Its component sheet is very good and is still considered a high end phone several months after its release. It does have some good dev support (though Samsung could be a lot more helpful with getting more info about their processors out there) and considering many chose that device after the Galaxy Nexus failed to impress when it was finally announced. Personally I prefer stock Android but there are a couple features I wouldn't mind cherrypicking from the S3 like screenshots, tap to top, and not having the screen go to sleep when you're looking at it. Having sais that, the phone I chose is definately the right one for me and I belive it to be superior to the S3. Also it will be supported longer than the S3 from Google and the dev community.

manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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That's exactly what I just thought.. Though I don't have the nexus 4 right now, I will never go back to a device with a ****ty logo on the front.
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barondebxl said:
Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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Yeah, no. How is that Exynos 4 without any kind of documentation treating you?

powerwagon said:
That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google.
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i have played around with my friend's Note 2 for a whole day and i decided to install Nova to see if stock Android isn't worth it anymore. it turns out it is. Nova + Touchwiz was not as stable or fast (by that i mean touch responsiveness) as my Galaxy Nexus. i wanted to believe it since i am paying almost as much for the Nexus 4 and i really appreciate the Note 2's battery but i just wasn't convinced.

Hmmm... I've sold my SGS2 and waited for N4 but.... SOLD OUT...
This gave me more time to think about and I've realized that getting N4 was like step back to me.. Didn't want to end up like all iPhone users... Easy to break glass all around, very limited storage and non-removable battery.. I'm Not saying N4 is bad but it's Not perfect... (to me not even close to perfect...)
Android Support will be better for N4 and the Hardware is slightly better but I'm very happy with what I've got. It runs super smooth, using GO launcher, 2GB RAM makes a huge difference comparing to S3 tho.
To me GT-I9305 FTW
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New trend in mobile reviews: 'Nexus 4 was average, bare bones phone'. I disagree!

So, I was watching Pocketnow review of the Nexus 5. Video begins as the reviewer tells us that there were always cheap versions of awesome products, and that they always succeed to disappoint us. Next to the pictures of those products (PolyStation, copy of PlayStation, and other awfull stuff), we are presented with the Nexus 4, as the perfect example of cheap and bare bones products that disappointed us.
To make the situation worse, this isn't the only review that bashes the Nexus 4. Internet is full of articles that practically say: Nexus 4 was average phone, with average specs.
Average phone? Average specs? Snapdragon S4 Pro was the most powerful processor at the time of N4 release, and still is the beast. 2 gigs of RAM was double what GS3, '2012 flagship', had. It had one of the sharpest screens at the time, matching IPhone 5 320 ppi. It had latest version of stock, vanilla android, support for wireless charging, great looks, nice build quality, premium feel. It was the fastest phone out there, and still handles everything you throw at it. It had, and still has the best development support, best, bug free roms and best developers. What was average in this?
It didn't have best camera out there. And it didn't come with LTE. But it's price was 350$ unlocked.
Nexus 4 was, and still is, one great phone. And sad thing is, people don't get it. Worse thing is, reviewers don't get it. As a matter of fact, maybe they do, but they are to spoilt with 600$+ flagships.
Saddest thing, Nexus 4 was equally good as 2012 flagships. It had something GS3 didn't, it didn't have something GS3 had. This isn't compromise, it's different ideology.
And now, Nexus 5 is equally good as 2013 flagships. It has something GS4 doesn't, it doesn't have something GS4 does.
By the time Nexus 6 arrives, N5 will be remembered just like N4 is now, 'bare bones, average device, full of compromises'.
What do you think?
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Nexus 4 is still one of the best phones out now because of all the developers. Reviewers who say N4 is average are retarded imo.
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The problem with lot's of reviews that are about products only focus on what you get, not on how much you have to pay to get it. This especially happens in the world of smartphones. This is why they give such a low score to the Nexus 4, like, how much do you care about a camera in a phone? IMO that's a good point to shave of some money from the price. It's nice to have one, but I personally do not care if it is amazing or just mediocore.

if you know its a good phone why you bother with shi-t like this? baffles me, just enjoy what you got and don't worry about what others think.
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Many of them think phone's quality = camera quality. Ignore them. Nexus 4 has quite a few compromises in favour of price and in favour of not beating LG Optimus G (LG aren't retarded, it's obvious they wouldn't make an equal or better phone for a cheaper price), BUT it sets aside all the unnecessary gimmicks and focuses on raw power. It's not a false policy, it's just a different ideology. In fact the biggest change Nexus 4 brought to the market is that you could get a top class smartphone for a decent price. And they're continuing this policy with the Nexus 5. This cannot be underestimated. By this logic of completely neglecting the price they could review a low cost budget phone and call it ****. Not a wrong statement to make, but not a fair one either. In a consumer economy price is and always will be relevant and needs to be taken into account.

Completely agree. It's interesting how some tech blogs forget what was said in their own Nexus 4 reviews! Even the camera used to be praised when it was released.

gsmaciel said:
Completely agree. It's interesting how some tech blogs forget what was said in their own Nexus 4 reviews! Even the camera used to be praised when it was released.
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Yeah, I remember when MKBHD reviewed N4, he said camera is on pair with GS3
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Lol.. just wait & watch.. This reviewer would say the same thing for N5 when N6 comes out..If N4 had the Avg specs, then i wonder what would be the good specs
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defffizz said:
So, I was watching pocketnow review of the Nexus 5. Video begins as the reviewer tells us that there were always cheap versions of awesome products, and that they always succeed to disappoint us. Next to the pictures of those products (polystation, copy of playstation, and other awfull stuff), we are presented with the Nexus 4, as the perfect example of cheap and bare bones products that disappointed us.
To make the situation worse, this isn't the only review that bashes the Nexus 4. Internet is full of articles that practically say: Nexus 4 was average phone, with average specs.
Average phone? Average specs? Snapdragon S4 Pro was the most powerful processor at the time of N4 release, and still is the beast. 2 gigs of RAM was double what GS3, '2013 flagship', had. It had one of the sharpest screens at the time, matching IPhone 5 320 ppi. It had latest version of stock, vanilla android, support for wireless charging, great looks, nice build quality, premium feel. It was the fastest phone out there, and still handles everything you throw at it. It had, and still has the best development support, best, bug free roms and best developers. What was average in this?
It didn't have best camera out there. And it didn't come with LTE. But it's price was 350$ unlocked.
Nexus 4 was, and still is, one great phone. And sad thing is, people don't get it. Worse thing is, reviewers don't get it. As a matter of fact, maybe they do, but they are to spoilt with 600$+ flagships.
Saddest thing, Nexus 4 was equally good as 2012 flagships. It had something GS3 didn't, it didn't have something GS3 had. This isn't compromise, it's different ideology.
And now, Nexus 5 is equally good as 2013 flagships. It has something GS4 doesn't, it doesn't have something GS4 does.
By the time Nexus 6 arrives, N5 will be remembered just like N4 is now, 'bare bones, average device, full of compromises'.
What do you think?
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Totally agree with you!

Nexus 4 average? What a ridiculous shade from someone, I'm pretty sure, doesn't know a thing about android world, S3 was the ~TOP smartphone~ last year and Nexus 4 is better than that, what a... I can't even... I just... I can't right now, bye

Only one word - marketing...
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My opinion is that the Nexus 4 has always been slightly under the top of the line, especially in battery and camera. Battery and LTE are as good if not better then many other flagships due to the great developer support. I'm pretty sure a N4 with cm10.2 and Franco performs better than many phones with lesser specs
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sooo!
I don't care what the reviewers say...I love my N4 and I will keep it for a long time...

The Nexus 4 is no where near average. Matter of fact its STILL high end. Comparing spec wise there is only a few phones with higher ends specs and those happen to be 2013 phones, this is a 2012 phone and STILL competes with those flagships.
About the camera: If someone is really THAT much into photography and cameras, why rely on a phone? I enjoy my N4 camera. I don't expect a phone to take 'stunning' images. The only phone that will probably beat any camera phone is the Galaxy Zoom, and that's hideous to look at.
Compare the N4 to other phones that are still being releases with only 1 or half a gig or RAM, lower resolutions, and older android versions, in 2013........
The android OS still beats any phone. The fact that it runs bare stock android and gets updates before any other phones, alone beats all phones out there.
Who ever did that review is on crack.
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Because it's lacking bunch of **** shipping with other brands.
Perhaps a laggy launcher, overwhelming animations, tons of unremovable bloatwares
and batch of uncompleted feature just made there for marketing purpose, making the device incredibly slow with top hardware?
Oh, and one-third of money you pay are for advertisements.
I won't purchase any non-Nexus Android devices since I bought a Nexus 7.

b1337 said:
if you know its a good phone why you bother with shi-t like this? baffles me, just enjoy what you got and don't worry about what others think.
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Think big picture -- reviewers influence their audience more than you think. The readers form opinions and judge products without trying it out for themselves or doing any further research. They then spread this to their less-knowledgeable mainstream friends and family.
It's a problem and I wish reviewers would spend more time with devices before rushing to publish reviews for page views.

i saw that review too and think they just do it to get many clicks they always have to say new phones are good and old phones suck so they keep getting free review units...
ppl always criticized me for getting the n4 and saying its the best phone and yes camera was the argument and then i would say i have a canon eos 600d if i want to make pictures i use a proper camera and not a samsung galaxy iphone but those ppl dont understand because they need the best phone camera to instagram their food
and in my country lte is useless since the plan costs 3 times as much so h+ is the better choice imo
Trolololed from my iPhone 5S

dat signature
makes your comment a bit confusing
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To answer the OP just watch a better reviewer like MKBHD, Amondo Ferreira and Erica Griffin.
I watch Pocket Now, but I don't take their opinions as seriously.
Anyway, I've been really enjoying the Nexus 4 with ART so no need to upgrade yet.
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Interesting to compare these same reviewers opinions on the N4 to last year's when they praised it. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Note 5, flip it or love it?

Hey XDA
Brief background, want to make this small post here.
Had the S4 for a year, actually enjoyed it for what it was worth, wanted out as soon as we knew for sure there was no root. Stock Touchwiz was just terrible on the 4.
I've never had the chance to own a Nexus device before, my carrier upgrades always came just before the Nexus devices were released, and I've been so ready to upgrade when it comes I jump on it.
This time around I stuck with my G3 for a while. I love this phone. I'm ready for new, and the phones coming out this year are not quite "notable"
I really have my eyes on the Nexus 6P - but US carriers not selling it means I have a decision to make. Got my dad the Note 4 earlier this year, he likes it. I like it the little bit I've played with it. I feel I could even use the Note 5 to replace my notebook in class for notes. ATT bootloader seems to be like the S4. Not much will come of bootloader unlocks with this phone.. It appears.
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So I will upgrade through ATT, probably to the Note 5. Question is - stay with the Note 5 and learn to love it, despite the experiences I've had with Samsung, or flip it unopened on CL and order up the N6P....??
I really do not want a subpar camera to the G3, nor do I want a dull screen. Both devices seem on par, both no SD, battery not removable on the Note... Cameras both good..
Anyone here want the Nexus 6P?! Willing to get rid of your Note 5 for it?

The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.

If i had a real need for a second phone, Nexus 6P will be my choice
I like Note5 as my main phone, S pen is really helpful, and makes you smart ?
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I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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KarimSalloum said:
The 6P looks sweet (literally and figuratively) but I'll never buy a smartphone with the Snapdragon 810. I already have a stove.
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The phone hasn't even come out yet, wait until someone can review it. There are phones with the chip that heat up a lot, and some that don't heat at all.
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I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.

HNIC215 said:
I've had the Note 5 for a few weeks now, it is an excellent all-around Android phone.
I think the Nexus 6p looks great too, has pros and cons like any phone.
I think the Note 5 is the better all-around device and is the premier flagship Android phone of 2015.
I don't think you could sit and take notes for 8 hours on this phone. Lol. Maybe you could, maybe not. I would never want to do that.
The Nexus 6p is using the SnapDragon 810 version 2.1 - heat issues have "supposedly" been resolved on that version.
Some things to consider with AT&T:
1) You can't root but you can use Samsung Pay
2) Resale value on AT&T branded Samsung phones (Android in general) are lower than other models like T-Mobile, due to the locked bootloader, they usually sell for less/resale for less.
So I don't think you want to take a risk and purchase the phone from them, only to sell it for less.
Worst come to worst, try it out, they should give you 14 days to try it and return it. Something like that.
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True and true. I may end up doing that. Will be end of this month or next, don't want to make a payment to pay off my G3, got 4 months left but they usually let you swap with 2 left.
I want to try the N5, the S6 edge has a brilliant screen but not for me.
I just really have my heart set on this N6P. If I don't like what I get with the Note5 I may return it for a iPhone6S and sell that on CL. Should get more $$$ for it. Overnight myself a N6P and I'll be good to go.
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It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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Indeed. That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better... I'd sweep that in a heartbeat.
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion. If course, the Note typically has better optimized software and useful features.
I lean more and more to the n6p every time I look at it. But again, ATT doesn't sell. Going to really suck
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
It depends if you want stock Android or not. That's all it really comes down to cause the Note 5 has everything else the 6P has for the most part.
I personally can't stand stock Android, so I'm sticking with the Note 5. Stock Android is insanely boring and featureless compared to Touchwiz. And the Note 5 has the S-Pen.
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I agree, I think somewhere along the line, maybe around lollipop, I started to enjoy the touchwiz version more because of all the useful features built in to the OS.
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
That's true. I love vanilla Android. I wish the OnePlus 2 was a bit better...
Touchwiz in my experience has been very Ram consuming and slow with the amazing hardware Samsung has brought to the table. It ruins the phone in my opinion.
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I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.

HNIC215 said:
I've had the Note 3, 4 and now 5. In my opinion, each iteration is slowly getting refined to be a better version compared to the last. If they keep this up, all the old stereotypes about touchwiz will eventually be obsolete.
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Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.

Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Now that the V10 is out I would also consider that as an option. It looks fantastic.
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What V10?
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
What V10?
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LG.

KarimSalloum said:
Old stereotypes are still there... yeah there's less bloatware but have you seen the RAM management on the Note5? Shameful.
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I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...

WizeGuyDezignz said:
LG.
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Saw it... Not interested in the front screen thing, seems a bit gimicky...
But... Could be neat. I don't think I will wait that long until I upgrade.
HNIC215 said:
I think RAM management can easily be fixed with a software update.
The Note 5 - even with this "RAM management" issue - is still the fastest, smoothest Note I've used. Hands down!
Software was never a strong suite for Samsung, however, they are learning. Fast enough for some people, slow for others.
It should only get better...
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Yeah, yet the track record shows Samsung will not upgrade the software's RAM consumption near as much as they could. They just don't have our interests at heart, rather the general public. After all we are a minority on XDA.
May settle for the Note5, will have to find time to go play with one in the store soon..
Otherwise I'll flip an iPhone 6S for the N6P... Ugh.

CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
I see. Can anyone here tell me if it's valid to think you could completely replace a notebook and take notes in an 8 hour class day with the n5?
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I say no. It may just be my writing, but I can only fit maybe 4-5 legible words across the screen in portrait mode, which makes for a lot of +New notes, or one lonnnnnnng one.
I've had my fun with it, but I am realizing it's just not convenient to try and pack a tablet into a phone, and use a phablet as a phone. I am now leaning more towards having a tablet for actual writing on, and a phone I can use easily in one hand for texting/emailing/calling.