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Hi to everybody. This is my first message here. I have been around for a little while, as I have bought a Kaiser 2 weeks ago and I found this place extremely helpful. I bought it with a German OS on it and I reflashed using Hard SPL and Dutty's Windows distribution. Thank you all for your posts and information, I searched and always found what I needed. Now... I got a few questions:
1. I ordered myself a Mugen 3000 amps battery and I wonder if there is any software to correctly report battery consumption, as I read that many had problems with this.
2. When you load the battery... how do you know when it's really loaded since there are those battery usage reporting problems.
3. Where can I set my device to remain operational until the battery is dead (stop auto-shut down at 2% or stuff like that). I read that some extended life batteries are reported as dead by Windows and after reboot they are back to 34%. So a workaround to point 1 is to stop the device from auto shutting down and remaining operational until there is no energy left.
Thank you in advance ::- ).
Man, I can't wait till Epyon (a company) comes out with that nano tech battery that fully charges in seconds. I'll buy one on the spot. Look them up man. They are internationally based. I went to sleep with a 100 percent battery and woke up to my phone being dead. ON STANDBY!! wtf. I love my phone but geez.
gqstatus0685 said:
Man, I can't wait till Epyon (a company) comes out with that nano tech battery that fully charges in seconds. I'll buy one on the spot. Look them up man. They are internationally based. I went to sleep with a 100 percent battery and woke up to my phone being dead. ON STANDBY!! wtf. I love my phone but geez.
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I went to bed with the phone fully charged and woke up with it at 93% with Direct Push enabled. There is absolutley something you can do about your battery draining like that.
mcmexican said:
I went to bed with the phone fully charged and woke up with it at 93% with Direct Push enabled. There is absolutley something you can do about your battery draining like that.
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Unless he slept for 4 days!!!!
I agree, that is absolutely absurd. 100% ---> DEAD overnight????
I'd suggest doing a soft reset before you go to bed so that are processes are killed and not running in the background and then see how the battery works overnight.
Errrrrr
Errrrrrr... can anybody ANSWER my questions? ::- D.
I always close out of running programs after I'm done with it. I had my battery fully charged and unhooked it so that it wouldnt over do the battery. Went to sleep and when I woke up my phone was on sleep "obviously" so I hit the power button and it doesn't wake up. So I have to do a hard reset on my phone by pulling out the battery. When I powered back on my battery was like at 18 percent. Crazy.
Did you charge the battery for more than 10-12 hours the first three times you recharged?
I wouldn't know I bought it from a friend, I'm pretty sure he let it die down completely before charging it.
these are lit ion batts why would it matter if you charged it for that long the first time. for the first initial charge your sappose to charge it for a complete 14 hours anywas.
axonn said:
1. I ordered myself a Mugen 3000 amps battery and I wonder if there is any software to correctly report battery consumption, as I read that many had problems with this.
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Try BatteryStatus. It's a 3rd party app that is updated regularly.
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2. When you load the battery... how do you know when it's really loaded since there are those battery usage reporting problems.
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The Kaiser itself will show a green light on the front when the battery is fully charged. Since this is a function of hardware, and not controlled by software, it should be accurately represent a 100% charge.
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3. Where can I set my device to remain operational until the battery is dead (stop auto-shut down at 2% or stuff like that). I read that some extended life batteries are reported as dead by Windows and after reboot they are back to 34%. So a workaround to point 1 is to stop the device from auto shutting down and remaining operational until there is no energy left.
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Probably a registry setting that controls this. Sorry I can't be more specific on this one.
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gqstatus0685: as far as I know, a hard reset does not mean pulling out your battery. That's just like something between soft reset and hard reset. Hard reset = erase all OS settings, right?
NotATreoFan: thank you for your answer, it's the first good and complete answer I got. I still hope for an answer to question 3. As for battery status: I think I have it since I use Dutty's Windows, and I think he included it.
Is it possibly to deactivate HSDPA (instead use GPRS or UMTS -> fast enough for the headlines) to automatically download emails? I'm pretty shure this costs me a lot of battery. It only downloads mails every 30 minutes, but when i turn it off, the battery lasts a lot longer.
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Is it possibly to deactivate HSDPA (instead use GPRS or UMTS -> fast enough for the headlines) to automatically download emails? I'm pretty shure this costs me a lot of battery. It only downloads mails every 30 minutes, but when i turn it off, the battery lasts a lot longer.
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Technically, this post should not be in this thread. It is for an issue/question separate from the original poster's. That being said...
Google search. Check out the results here. The very first link will answer your question.
gqstatus0685 said:
Man, I can't wait till Epyon (a company) comes out with that nano tech battery that fully charges in seconds. I'll buy one on the spot. Look them up man. They are internationally based. I went to sleep with a 100 percent battery and woke up to my phone being dead. ON STANDBY!! wtf. I love my phone but geez.
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Check out sticky "HTC models with GPS: abnormal battery drainage in standby" - I bet that's exactly what you experienced. Do you remember whether you had GPS on, the day before you put your phone aside?
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Buster
Soft Reset-Stick Stylus in the hole
Hard Reset-Turn off phone pop battery out then back in
Master Reset-Erases all data on the phone
gqstatus0685 said:
Soft Reset-Stick Stylus in the hole
Hard Reset-Turn off phone pop battery out then back in
Master Reset-Erases all data on the phone
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Nope, I don't think this is quite right (unless I have missed something). Taking the battery out is not a hard reset. I tested this just now to be sure and it had no discernible effect on my phone. To hard reset, hold the two soft keys down together, then put the stylus in the hole and wait for the instructions (i.e. take the stylus out of the hole and press the green phone button). The phone will then be back to factory condition and you will lose all of your data.
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Nope, I don't think this is quite right (unless I have missed something). Taking the battery out is not a hard reset. I tested this just now to be sure and it had no discernible effect on my phone. To hard reset, hold the two soft keys down together, then put the stylus in the hole and wait for the instructions (i.e. take the stylus out of the hole and press the green phone button). The phone will then be back to factory condition and you will lose all of your data.
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finally someone who knows what a hard reset is.
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Hey, I was the first one who knew ::- D.
Ok, so my Mugen battery should be coming these days. I installed batteryStatus but I wonder: what if this program simply gets the measurements from the same place Windows does. So far I always saw battery status report the same digits as Windows. Are you sure there are cases where Battery Status disagrees with Windows on the battery measurement?
Still nobody to tell me how to make the Kaiser stay on until the battery dies (stop auto power off)?
no problem here with the battery
Mugen
What do you mean? Do you have the Mugen?
I noticed, a few others, but should be minority has the same problem as mine.
My N1 powers off itself when my battery shows around 15% or so.. sometimes 17% sometimes 14%, never lower than 10%.
I already tried to wipe battery data at recovery or deleting the battstat.bin file etc etc but it is still like that.
Is there a solution for this and any reason for this?
Majority of people's phone only power downs below 5%.
Many thanks
Use the battery calibrator, it's in the development section.
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baseballfanz said:
Use the battery calibrator, it's in the development section.
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thanks man..
there are two with the same name.. i'll try them one by one
Try bump-charging* then clearing the battery stats
*Charge phone to 100%, unplug it, turn it off, charge again till indicator goes green
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Try bump-charging* then clearing the battery stats
*Charge phone to 100%, unplug it, turn it off, charge again till indicator goes green
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actually this i have tried a few times already but it never helped.
My phone turns off at around 19% now after I played with the battery calibrator app. (I set the life at 100%, was lazy to run the full cycle calibration)
Its powerful and probably can fix your problem.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=net.jonrichards.batterycalibrator.ui
britoso said:
My phone turns off at around 19% now after I played with the battery calibrator app. (I set the life at 100%, was lazy to run the full cycle calibration)
Its powerful and probably can fix your problem.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=net.jonrichards.batterycalibrator.ui
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i am trying to do this too.
so you are saying it wont help coz yours got even worse (turning off at 19%)?
britoso said:
My phone turns off at around 19% now after I played with the battery calibrator app. (I set the life at 100%, was lazy to run the full cycle calibration)
Its powerful and probably can fix your problem.
Link: https://market.android.com/details?id=net.jonrichards.batterycalibrator.ui
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To calibrate your battery and have it reliably die at 0% every time, follow the instructions that I wrote in post #3 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7850480&postcount=3
schizophrenia said:
i am trying to do this too.
so you are saying it wont help coz yours got even worse (turning off at 19%)?
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He said he was too lazy to complete the learn cycle, which is part of the calibration technique. There is no sense in trying to pick "pieces" of the process and hope they work, they won't. Start with step 1 and follow the directions to the letter, don't skip anything. I would suggest reading the instructions a couple of times prior to starting and ask questions in the thread if you aren't sure. There are several of us that monitor the thread and will respond quickly...myself during US daylight hours and Temasek in the evening (he's in asia, I think).
mtw4991 said:
To calibrate your battery and have it reliably die at 0% every time, follow the instructions that I wrote in post #3 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7850480&postcount=3
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am doing this right now and hope I understand everything and it works.
thanks a lot
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i am trying to do this too.
so you are saying it wont help coz yours got even worse (turning off at 19%)?
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It will work if you follow the steps and run the full calibration (long time)
mtw4991 said:
To calibrate your battery and have it reliably die at 0% every time, follow the instructions that I wrote in post #3 here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7850480&postcount=3
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Thanks. Wish there was a quicker/easier way.
I'm currently testing a direct way using simple math:
If 1452mAh is 100% how much is 19% ?
i.e. 1452/100*19 = 275mAh (for me)
I've set "full40" to 1452-275= 1177 (the calibrator app's minimum is 1200 so I just set it to that.)
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It will work if you follow the steps and run the full calibration (long time)
Thanks. Wish there was a quicker/easier way.
I'm currently testing a direct way using simple math:
If 1452mAh is 100% how much is 19% ?
i.e. 1452/100*19 = 275mAh (for me)
I've set "full40" to 1452-275= 1177 (the calibrator app's minimum is 1200 so I just set it to that.)
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That may work as a guess-timate, but the stock battery comes rated at 1452mAh and stock age is set to 94%, so you would really be setting to 1128mAh unless you reset age to 100%. It really doesn't take that long to set up the application for learn mode...just a few minutes. It does take 31/2-4 hrs to fully charge the phone and complete learn mode if you set the min. charge current to <20mA. To speed things up, just set it to <40mA as you won't miss the little bit of extra juice.
britoso said:
It will work if you follow the steps and run the full calibration (long time)
Thanks. Wish there was a quicker/easier way.
I'm currently testing a direct way using simple math:
If 1452mAh is 100% how much is 19% ?
i.e. 1452/100*19 = 275mAh (for me)
I've set "full40" to 1452-275= 1177 (the calibrator app's minimum is 1200 so I just set it to that.)
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hmmm good point, i never thought of that lower limit. we'll see if we can update the app.
but to answer this thread's question, the age register in your phone is now out of whack, and you need to set it accordinly to allow the battery to go down to 0%. the learn cycle determine's the proper "age" value and sets it accordingly.
you could also guess an age value, say 83%, would be close. but really there's no reason to not do the learn cycle and figure it out.
BTW all these values are stored in your battery's chip, and it needs to be updated to new value.
Quick question:
1) Sometimes even after I turned on the "Detect Learn Mode" my Current occassionally dropped below -200mA (e.g. 160mA) for a quick while... will it affect the result?
2) "Turn off" means turning off the Detect Learn Mode right?
3) where can I see the "Charging current"? Capa.?
Thanks
What if I rotate among three different batteries on a regular basis? I have an external battery charger too. Will the calibration be in any way useful or will it get confused by the changes?
I have my original January 2010 battery, a December 2011 replacement from HTC, and a MOMAX battery that also holds up a pretty good charge.
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cmstlist said:
What if I rotate among three different batteries on a regular basis? I have an external battery charger too. Will the calibration be in any way useful or will it get confused by the changes?
I have my original January 2010 battery, a December 2011 replacement from HTC, and a MOMAX battery that also holds up a pretty good charge.
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you can rotate batteries no problem. when you do a learn cycle, the age value gets written to the chip inside the individual battery. so you can swap batteries no problem. just make sure that the correct age value shows up when you swap, cause sometimes the age resets when removed from the phone. just set it manually back to your proper age if so.
we were trying to add "profiles" support to the app so you could swap batterys and it remembers the parameters for each and sets them accordingly when you swap the battery. but i dont know how long that will take...
Okay good to know. I bought this charger:
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-Mult...CAT6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1295658169&sr=8-3
And it's pretty neat because I can just position the pins myself to charge any battery I want. I've tried it with camera batteries, Huawei U1250, Moto Milestone and RAZR, and Nexus One batteries. It works really well and it's somewhat future-proof because it will probably work with my next phone's batteries too =)
I only have 5 widgets, and my brightness is also low as possible. I have wifi off when i don't use it, but my battery still dies kinda fast. Should i delete cell standby? And what else can i do?
You really should define "kinda fast" so folks can answer objectively
Well just playing games like angry birds for 20 minutes it drops like 10%
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Well just playing games like angry birds for 20 minutes it drops like 10%
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1) Which ROM
2) What widgets
3) What are you using to monitor battery drop
10% in 20 minutes (screen on, in use) is pretty aggressive.
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1) Which ROM
2) What widgets
3) What are you using to monitor battery drop
10% in 20 minutes (screen on, in use) is pretty aggressive.
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1. Stock with launcherpro
2. Typoclock power control beautiful battery google search and music
3. Beautiful battery
EverythingNook said:
1. Stock with launcherpro
2. Typoclock power control beautiful battery google search and music
3. Beautiful battery
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What drain are you seeing with screen off/idle?
with the screen off for about 5 hours i saw a 21% drain.
Drop the widgets and livewallpaper if you've got it. Retest standby.
If you're getting high battery drain during standby your nook isn't going into deep sleep and chances are that background overhead translates to poor efficiency at idle when the nook is on as well. Couple poor idle efficiency with CPU intensive work while in use and your overall battery life is terrible.
If you're forcing the nook to stay out of deep sleep for other reasons like keeping wifi alive then you may be stuck with living with some sort of elevated drain but you can minimize it by reducing idle overhead by keeping widgets to a minimum and refraining from using live wallpapers and other background services that aren't critical.
Tacking on to here rather than starting a new thread...
My Nook Color rooted, but still on stock ROM goes from 100% charge to 25% in about 8-9 hours with zero usage. Obviously something's going on (I suspect it's that I have Advanced WiFi sleep policy set to never and am away from WiFi), but no other widgets running. I do have Google Voice app installed.
What I'm curious about is what would normal standby battery drain be? What would be typical after 8-9 hours of just sitting untouched in my brief case?
Thanks in advance!
distortedloop said:
Obviously something's going on (I suspect it's that I have Advanced WiFi sleep policy set to never and am away from WiFi), but no other widgets running.
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If you suspect it, disable it and see. I'm thinking that would be a prime suspect.
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What I'm curious about is what would normal standby battery drain be? What would be typical after 8-9 hours of just sitting untouched in my brief case?
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I believe typically overnight you should see less than 10% drain.
In CM7 at least, in Spare Parts you can see what uses the battery while the NC is asleep.
distortedloop said:
Tacking on to here rather than starting a new thread...
My Nook Color rooted, but still on stock ROM goes from 100% charge to 25% in about 8-9 hours with zero usage. Obviously something's going on (I suspect it's that I have Advanced WiFi sleep policy set to never and am away from WiFi), but no other widgets running. I do have Google Voice app installed.
What I'm curious about is what would normal standby battery drain be? What would be typical after 8-9 hours of just sitting untouched in my brief case?
Thanks in advance!
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do you have it overclocked? if so, have a profile that clocks it down to 300mhz when the screen is locked
hxh103 said:
do you have it overclocked? if so, have a profile that clocks it down to 300mhz when the screen is locked
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No, not yet. It's 100% stock, other than rooting and downloading apps. I'm going to put SystemPanel on it and see if it gives a clue.
I've got a good idea of how to track down battery issues on most android devices, I was just mostly curious what the typical drain other rooted users saw was.
Thx for the suggestions to all.
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do you have it overclocked? if so, have a profile that clocks it down to 300mhz when the screen is locked
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Good lord, this isn't going to help anything. Normal Nook Colors on the stock ROM (and kernel....) use about .2%/hr in standby.
Clearly something is running wild on this guys NC, and needs to look at Spare Parts. Install it from the market.
System Panel as well as other tools can help as well.
Okay, I'm a pretty smart guy usually, but I'll publicly put on the dunce cap and admit to my ignorance on this one.
System Panel actually showed some amazingly good lack of drain with all my apps running.
The reason my battery was so low when I checked it each afternoon is because even though I thought I was charging the thing over night, I wasn't. I was using a regular micro-usb cable for my phone to plug the thing in most nights.
Turns out the Nook Color has an extra deep micro-usb receptacle and requires a better endowed male plug to get it charged properly.
Lame...
(Lame of me, but also lame of B&N to make such a design decision. What were they thinking? I HATE proprietary connectors.)
distortedloop said:
Okay, I'm a pretty smart guy usually, but I'll publicly put on the dunce cap and admit to my ignorance on this one.
System Panel actually showed some amazingly good lack of drain with all my apps running.
The reason my battery was so low when I checked it each afternoon is because even though I thought I was charging the thing over night, I wasn't. I was using a regular micro-usb cable for my phone to plug the thing in most nights.
Turns out the Nook Color has an extra deep micro-usb receptacle and requires a better endowed male plug to get it charged properly.
Lame...
(Lame of me, but also lame of B&N to make such a design decision. What were they thinking? I HATE proprietary connectors.)
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Extra WIDE, not deep. And there's good reason USB standards are .5A over the typical 4 pin connection. The B&N cable has FOUR extra pins, delivering the other 1.4A of power.
Extra deep. Two stages...
First stage 5 pins, second stage 12 pins...
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Yup same cable as my Droid2 and Droid before it....
Krazypoloc said:
Yup same cable as my Droid2 and Droid before it....
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Does this mean we can use the droid2 and droid's cables as alternatives?
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Extra WIDE, not deep. And there's good reason USB standards are .5A over the typical 4 pin connection. The B&N cable has FOUR extra pins, delivering the other 1.4A of power.
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Thanks for the extra info about the additional voltage; so it will charge much faster this way? (rhetorical question)
I still am annoyed at yet another non-standard cable that I'll have to carry around with me when I travel to keep various devices charged, but in the scheme of things it's a minor annoyance. Stuff like this should be standardized, IMHO.
And it's extra DEEP, not wide. It's the same width as a standard micro-usb cable or I wouldn't have been able to stick my phone's charging cable into it at all, but I was able to, it just didn't go in deep enough to charge at all. On the flips side, the B&N cable fits into my phone, but only inserts half-way deep; if it were extra wide it wouldn't fit into my phone at all.
This seems to be quite a common and somewhat obscure at the same time.
Many people have reported installing a new rom or even just powering up their phone and seeing a battery % much different from what they expect. Most often much lower than it should be. Evidently this corrects itself after some time but it's a real problem if your display reads <15% because you really have to plug it in then, even with you know you have 90% battery!
So, here's the solution after testing it under different circumstances over a few days:
Simply boot your phone when it is not plugged in to a power source and battery % will be accurate.
That simple. Silly LG!
So, if you flash a new rom, unplug the USB cable before you reboot...
Hit 'Thanks' below for the 50 reboots I did to prove this...
hehehe jups allready figured that out on myself tho haha. But indeed that's kinda silly of LG
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This seems to be quite a common and somewhat obscure at the same time.
Many people have reported installing a new rom or even just powering up their phone and seeing a battery % much different from what they expect. Most often much lower than it should be. Evidently this corrects itself after some time but it's a real problem if your display reads <15% because you really have to plug it in then, even with you know you have 90% battery!
So, here's the solution after testing it under different circumstances over a few days:
Simply boot your phone when it is not plugged in to a power source and battery % will be accurate.
That simple. Silly LG!
So, if you flash a new rom, unplug the USB cable before you reboot...
Hit 'Thanks' below for the 50 reboots I did to prove this...
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What about every time I use a custom rom the battery % indicator jumps right down to 90-95% when unplugging from charger ? Do you have a solution for that ?
reidar.ostrem said:
What about every time I use a custom rom the battery % indicator jumps right down to 90-95% when unplugging from charger ? Do you have a solution for that ?
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Try rebooting after you disconnect power.
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Try rebooting after you disconnect power.
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Sorry to say the same..
Even while charging with the phone shut down, pulling it off the charger and then booting this happens. On my phone I have experienced it on all MCR's.
It's really not a big deal as long as the battery performs as Stock 10b, that build has been stable batterywise on my phone. But staying stock isn't too much fun
Well, every time I charge, whether I reboot/shut down before unplugging or not, my charge always maxes out at 96%.
Annoying and I'd like it sorted if at all possible.
Anyone?..........lol
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ye i got that exact same issue i was wondering why that was happening and hoped that a simple reboot would fix it but its a bit more complicated than that i suppose...
also the battery reset in cwm didnt fix the loading till 97% w/e percentage.
when i install the stock rom it allows me to load it till 100% though pretty weird stuff -.-
mcnob said:
Well, every time I charge, whether I reboot/shut down before unplugging or not, my charge always maxes out at 96%.
Annoying and I'd like it sorted if at all possible.
Anyone?..........lol
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I had a replacement netbook battery that could only max to 90%. So, over the weekend, I practically drained it to 0% (not a healthy practice for Li-ion batteries but I was desperate). Took out the battery for a while, and then recharged for several hours. Well, it seems to get up to 100% now.
Perhaps you could try using the the phone until it very low on battery before recharging. Maybe the charging process in the phone needs some sort of recalibration. But should not be doing this all the time as it will reduce Li-ion battery longevity.
Let mine totally die last night so it wouldn't even turn on at all. Took out and replaced battery and then charged it overnight and hey-presto, when I unplugged it this morning, it stayed at 100%.
Solved indeed....for me anyway. Feel free to try the same and post your results.
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Let mine totally die last night so it wouldn't even turn on at all. Took out and replaced battery and then charged it overnight and hey-presto, when I unplugged it this morning, it stayed at 100%.
Solved indeed....for me anyway. Feel free to try the same and post your results.
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I'll be sure to try your tip man. But not easy drain it completely when I always need the phone :=)
I guys! I've got the same problem.
I think that it could depend on the "full battery popup FIX" that Paul introduced in his roms by the FR8.
So I would like to ask Paul if you can create a patch to remove that fix. Just to try it!
According to me, incorrect battery amount depend on a wrong voltage read error (offset introduced?) by the rom. :blink:
In my case, I have followed many times battery wype procedure without positive issue. The matter leaves only by flashing original roms.
I think that if Paul have written a wrong battery values range (to delete the battery full popup) that can be traduced in an incorrect battery status displays.
manciu said:
I guys! I've got the same problem.
I think that it could depend on the "full battery popup FIX" that Paul introduced in his roms by the FR8.
So I would like to ask Paul if you can create a patch to remove that fix. Just to try it!
According to me, incorrect battery amount depend on a wrong voltage read error (offset introduced?) by the rom. :blink:
In my case, I have followed many times battery wype procedure without positive issue. The matter leaves only by flashing original roms.
I think that if Paul have written a wrong battery values range (to delete the battery full popup) that can be traduced in an incorrect battery status displays.
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It was occurring before Paul introduced that change unfortunately...
After I wrote here, I registered a premium account to Paul's from modaco site and toke a custom fr12 rom without "battery full popup remove patch". Now I'm going to sleep and plugin the 2x to charge. Tomorrow I'll write here if is that the solution...
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It was occurring before Paul introduced that change unfortunately...
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I'm sure it's occured from fr8 in my case. With stock rom I haven't any battery problem so there is something wrong in fr raleases of course... I hope somebody discovers what is...
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After I wrote here, I registered a premium account to Paul's from modaco site and toke a custom fr12 rom without "battery full popup remove patch". Now I'm going to sleep and plugin the 2x to charge. Tomorrow I'll write here if is that the solution...
I'm sure it's occured from fr8 in my case. With stock rom I haven't any battery problem so there is something wrong in fr raleases of course... I hope somebody discovers what is...
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Perhaps, but you can not conclude it was introduced by MCR. You logic is wrong there.
Even without "battery full popup fix" it doesn't work good...
Battery level, when unpluged, stay at 100% for 2 minutes afterwards drop down fast until 85% then drain normally...
I'm getting huge battery display problems no matter what I do.
When I took it off the charger this morning, it said I had 100%... thats fair enough. However it stayed at 100% all day, so to "refresh" it this evening I restarted the phone, and low and behold it now says I have 27% left. But again, it's just sticking at that value, even with me now plugging the phone into the wall to charge. It simply says "Charging (27%)" and won't budge, likely until I restart the phone again.
Sometimes it works fine, it seemed to be doing ok last night before I put it on the charger. Any tips/suggestions? Is this something likely to be fixed when the Gingerbread update rolls around?
This is my first real smartphone, and am fairly annoyed as its giving me a fair few problems that I've not had from other electronic devices.
As I stated in another thread, I had the same issue while on MoDaCo Fr12. However, after reverting back to stock, the battery percentage is spot-on and I'm getting up to 48 hours use out of it.
Draw your own conclusions.
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That sounds super, but I'm still on stock too. About the only things of note I've done are root and switching to Launcher Pro. Oh, and Clockwork Mod of course. Perhaps a complete reboot is needed, we'll see how it goes.
Saying that - since charging, my phone has been at 90% all evening, until right this moment when it changed to 89%. It's less than I'd expect on this type of phone for 3-4 hours use (or lack thereof, I've barely touched it), but it's a start eh?
Welcome to the world of smartphones my friend. I've had various handsets over the last 4 years from iphone to android and a day and a half out of the battery is about average......at best. ;-)
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Just to clarify, what I meant in my previous post was that I was expecting to battery to drop a lot more than it did. The fact that it only went down 1% in several hours of use prompted me to think that the battery value was messed up.
As it is, I've not charged my phone in the 36 hours since, and it tells me I have 73% battery left. Perhaps it is performing extremely well after all? If that's the case then I'm more than happy with it, but being the pessimist I'm still expecting the phone to turn off sometime with the battery reporting incorrect values.
I am trying to determine if I have a bad battery or it's the Android costing this issue. While using my Tilt I have wifi on and was using the apps (IE: Market, XDA, etc...) the battery indicated the full charge (or what I have left) drop to 5%. Sometime it will shutdown my Tilt first and when I boot it back up it indicated that I only have 5% or less battery power. That is within 5 minutes of use.
Do I need to get a new battery or is this problem with something else?
1. battery dead.
2. software problem. I have bought a tytn II with 30Euro because it had a problem with the battery. resoft and radio update made me happy. i have 2 tytn's working perfectly. one is for testing and the other one for every day use.
cabasse_tronic said:
1. battery dead.
2. software problem. I have bought a tytn II with 30Euro because it had a problem with the battery. resoft and radio update made me happy. i have 2 tytn's working perfectly. one is for testing and the other one for every day use.
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That is what I am try to determine, if I need to go out and buy new battery.
Battery status in the setting stated that the battery is in good condition.
What did you mean by resoft and radio?
In Android there should be an app called "Spare Parts" in the app drawer. Find this app, open it then select "Battery Information". Leave this up while charging because we need to see at what point the phone says it's charged. Normal charge level for ANY single-cell Li-Ion battery is 4.2 volts, no higher.
Once charged, disconnect charger and watch the battery voltage number. It should drop a little once off charge (maybe 4.1-4.0 volts). If it drops steeply, say 3.8 or less, your battery is bad and needs to be replaced.
It sounds like your battery is dropping WELL below the "rest" voltage sometime shortly after charging, indicating delamination inside the cell, an indicator of over charging.
I've studied quite a bit on how Li-Ion batteries work over the past year so if anyone should know, I would...
Good luck!!!
resoft = new firmware = new OS = etc
radio = 1.70.xx. = that thing required so that your tytn II work with android on it.
PoXFreak said:
In Android there should be an app called "Spare Parts" in the app drawer. Find this app, open it then select "Battery Information". Leave this up while charging because we need to see at what point the phone says it's charged. Normal charge level for ANY single-cell Li-Ion battery is 4.2 volts, no higher.
Once charged, disconnect charger and watch the battery voltage number. It should drop a little once off charge (maybe 4.1-4.0 volts). If it drops steeply, say 3.8 or less, your battery is bad and needs to be replaced.
It sounds like your battery is dropping WELL below the "rest" voltage sometime shortly after charging, indicating delamination inside the cell, an indicator of over charging.
I've studied quite a bit on how Li-Ion batteries work over the past year so if anyone should know, I would...
Good luck!!!
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This is what I see while charging.
Battery Status: Charging (USB)
Power Plug: USB
Battery Level: 69
Battery Scale: 100
Battery Healthn: Good
Battery Voltage: 4177mV
Battery Temparature: 32.7c
It currently at 70%, I'll report back once it fully charged.
cabasse_tronic said:
resoft = new firmware = new OS = etc
radio = 1.70.xx. = that thing required so that your tytn II work with android on it.
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I think I have either 1.71 or 1.70 radio (can't really tell sicne I do not know where to look. I have tried different OS (IE: Scoot, Fat Free, etc...) Still the same problem.
One other thing, the phone keep shutting down in the middle of me trying to use it. So, I don't know if it is related to the battery issue I have or not.
Maybe simple solution will be the best solution Back to original system (win6.1) for one day and you will see what causing problems. If everything will be ok that you doing something wrong with android. If not-battery is dead or it is another hardware problem....
@ PoXFreak - After fully charged and the batttery voltage went from 4.2 (4217mV) to 3.9 (3990mV) in less than a minute. And it keeps dropping, after a few minutes it dropped to 3.8 (3808mV - 3855mV)
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@ PoXFreak - After fully charged and the batttery voltage went from 4.2 (4217mV) to 3.9 (3990mV) in less than a minute. And it keeps dropping, after a few minutes it dropped to 3.8 (3808mV - 3855mV)
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Check it out friend .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19304818&postcount=2
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Check it out friend .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19304818&postcount=2
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OK! I disabled the background updates per the link. I'll download the widgit in a few.
look http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=466379&d=1292559472
klm12 said:
look http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=466379&d=1292559472
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So, what is this attachment? Kernel?
klm12 said:
look http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=466379&d=1292559472
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What ever that file was broke my wifi.
BeenAndroidized said:
What ever that file was broke my wifi.
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You need to reinstall distro after such flash, but this time without applying update.
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You need to reinstall distro after such flash, but this time without applying update.
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OH! I'll keep that in mind. It's a little different than what I am used to. Thanks!
OK! I have flashed kernel 2.6.25. See if that will makes any different with this battery problem.
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OK! I have flashed kernel 2.6.25. See if that will makes any different with this battery problem.
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I used 2.6.25 in the past, good one so give it a try . Also, check that app I've shown you few posts ago, it shows battery usage in mA, show me your results, for me it's around 200 mA.
It looks like the battery still drain fast, it just dopped down to 1% and shutdown on me, I will download that apps once I have a chance.
BTW! How do I tell what version radio I currently have? I cannot find that info anywhere. The place where it usually will show me (Baseband version) only said HTC.