I disabled alot of bloatware and always close applications but i need a substantial ram usage and wanted to know if this was normal.
Phone isnt slow or anything, but i thought this looked like it was using more then i expected
check screen below
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f5tklwz262ln772/Screenshot_2014-04-24-21-54-53.png
genelise said:
I disabled alot of bloatware and always close applications but i need a substantial ram usage and wanted to know if this was normal.
Phone isnt slow or anything, but i thought this looked like it was using more then i expected
check screen below
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f5tklwz262ln772/Screenshot_2014-04-24-21-54-53.png
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That is normal. Lower RAM usage means increased lag. Higher RAM usage means reduced lag. Disabling apps ("bloatware" or otherwise) has almost no impact on RAM usage.
When RAM usage is high, that means the OS is doing it's job and teeing up all the apps you are likely to run next. If those apps were not ready to go and waiting in RAM, they would need to be loaded into RAM first, which causes lag.
GeorgeP said:
That is normal. Lower RAM usage means increased lag. Higher RAM usage means reduced lag. Disabling apps ("bloatware" or otherwise) has almost no impact on RAM usage.
When RAM usage is high, that means the OS is doing it's job and teeing up all the apps you are likely to run next. If those apps were not ready to go and waiting in RAM, they would need to be loaded into RAM first, which causes lag.
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thanks for the information. The phone is defiantly not slow and didnt think it was a major issue unless it affected performance.
s5 is great
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Is it possible to overclock this percious phone? If yes how can we do that?
Google is your friend!!
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f7/how-do-you-overclock-18292/
To overclock your phone, you need a rooted phone (i.e. root access), then you can either edit a specific file yourself that dictated the clock speed, or there's an app on the market to do it for you.
Aside from the risks of damage to your phone, the gain is mostly in people's heads. The phone is RARELY CPU locked, and is usually IO locked. What this means is that most lag or slowness in the phone is called by reading or writing data to/from memory, graphics, or SD card, and NOT by the processor being slow or maxed out.
This can be seen in benchmarks people have performed before and after overclocking. People who run computational benchmarks get an increase in peformance that almost matches the increase in clock speed (i.e. a 30% increase in clock speed gives a near 30% increase in the benchmarks), but people performing benchmarks that involve graphics, read/writing, or large amounts of memory (as is much more typical of Android apps), only show around a 10th of the overall increase. It's really not worth it.
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is it possible to reduce the voltage that an apps or games are using?? it really annoys me when i see 700mA+ usage on battery monitor widget when i play a game or open an app... is that normal???
That IS normal. Games use the processor and the adreno quite hardly. And of course the LCD all of them can use 700+ mAs quite easyli.
Oh and by the way, mA is not voltage, it's current
If you use an app, it's wrinting the ROM and RAM, it uses current too, much more compared to the standby. Apps use them just for a short time (excluding GPS and apps that uses resources constantly) but the games uses them almost constantly...
Ken-Shi_Kun said:
That IS normal. Games use the processor and the adreno quite hardly. And of course the LCD all of them can use 700+ mAs quite easyli.
Oh and by the way, mA is not voltage, it's current
If you use an app, it's wrinting the ROM and RAM, it uses current too, much more compared to the standby. Apps use them just for a short time (excluding GPS and apps that uses resources constantly) but the games uses them almost constantly...
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thanks for the reply... im just confuse because there are times that when i play games and check the battery monitor widget after, it only reads 1 or 10mA of usage and there times that its too high... i just thought that there can be a fix for the usage of the current and make it constant in every apps. or maybe something to reduce this to save some battery. but anyway you said its normal so i'll just ignore it thanks again!
just trying to squeeze some life out of the phone and i noticed i had this option disabled
the default is 18% according for 4.1.2, i'm just wondering if anyone here has experimented with different values?
i'm going to try 10% for now
anonxlg said:
just trying to squeeze some life out of the phone and i noticed i had this option disabled
the default is 18% according for 4.1.2, i'm just wondering if anyone here has experimented with different values?
i'm going to try 10% for now
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I've tried using zRAM and to be honest you don't gain much from it. If at all, it'll slow down your phone because of the increased cpu usage needed to compress and decompress the data on the fly. The worst case scenario is that zRAM will decrease your battery life. What ROM are you using?
cm10.1
but yeah, after using it, i do notice that there are more 'mini lags' when i have it enabled
it's not worth it for only '10%' more ram
anonxlg said:
cm10.1
but yeah, after using it, i do notice that there are more 'mini lags' when i have it enabled
it's not worth it for only '10%' more ram
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I think you mean CM 10 if your OS version is 4.1.2. CM 10.1 is Android 4.2. And to get you in the right direction, setting zRAM to 10% does not translate into 10% more RAM. It just reserves 10% of your usable RAM and compresses data that gets put into it. I think that zRAM would be very useful if this phone had a dual core processor. You should check "allow purging of assets" and "16bit transparency" to squeeze any life that's left out of this phone.
Since the P20 does have 6 GB of memory the usage never seems to exceed ~51%.
Is there a threshold?
Also boost app, after intense use, sometimes crashes and restarts.
So I suspect the real memory usage to be restricted to save battery?
Achilles Etimone said:
Since the P20 does have 6 GB of memory the usage never seems to exceed ~51%.
Is there a threshold?
Also boost app, after intense use, sometimes crashes and restarts.
So I suspect the real memory usage to be restricted to save battery?
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RAM uses power whether it stores a 1 or a 0 so it's always active. Ram usage won't affect battery life. The os just manages the ram to keep sufficient available for running foreground apps etc and closes or minimises background ones as needed. I've seen mine go as low as 2gb available.
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Hello guys,
I would like to ask you, what is your average ram usage? because the lowest I could go for is 5GB after using memory guardian to close all apps and average usage is 6-6.5 GB. Highest is 7.4 GB
I find the average so high, because I was using same apps on my previous A70 phone and only 4-5 gb was used.
Is that normal?
Are you guys using any third-party app to clean your ram automatically?
A70 has only 6GB of RAM. You were using 80-90% of it (4-5GB).
S21U has 12/16 GB of RAM and you're using 50-60% of it (6-8 GB), even for the "lower" RAM variant.
That's very good brother. If the remaining 4 GB RAM is lying unused, or if you had more, like 8 GB free, how would that benefit your user experience? One of the reasons to buy flagships like this is the large RAM. But that would be pointless if it were never even used, right?
Apps kept in RAM can be woken up and ready to instantly with less energy expenditure. Those that get unloaded from the RAM, are also eventually loaded back - but that is from the internal UFS 3.1 storage, which is slower than LPDDR5 RAM, and wastes much more energy (battery) for a full app start instead of resuming from suspended state in RAM.
I stopped using RAM clearing apps or even OEM cleaning services few years ago. Android manages RAM very well on the newer versions, and I haven't seen any advantage of clearing apps or RAM as an end user. It only helps if you have a rogue app that runs in the background constantly. Usually, the battery health monotoring built in Android will alert yourlself to it and you can choose to put it to deep sleep or disable or uninstall the offending app. But short of bad apps, most other services don't need manual motitoring and constant user maintenance.
When free RAM falls below what the phone needs, it will kill the last/least pioritised task and re-claim it for use. As a user, you shouldn't have to bother with managing it manually.
Yup, as @enigmaamit said, don't worry and stop bothering with ram cleaning apps. I also used to try and clean my RAM back in the day but that was only necessary on the 2GB and maybe 4GB RAM phones. Since the 6GB RAM phones, cleaning apps have been useless.
The reason your a70 was using less is because it had less and the system had to decide how much to fill and how much to leave free to maximize performance.
Carry on and worry not.
On android, free ram is wasted ram. Remember this and stop using useless "memory cleaning" apps. All they do is slow your phone down and kill your battery life. Same with clearing app cache. Only do it if you have a problem with the respective app.