Root Tips - Moto X Q&A

Sup guys I have a moto x on sprint and I'm on 4.4.2. I'm not sure if I want to root. I just heard some people getting great battery life and I'm not its just average. Maybe 3 hours screen on with 12 hours total before dead. So I think its some apps giving me wakelocks but I need root to find out now. Also app ops and/or greenify I'm sure will help. Now otherwise the phone is perfect. I'm no noob to root so I know what it is.
What I want to know is what's the easiest way to unlock boot loader, root install recovery and probably do xposed?
Then is there a way to totally revert back to stock with locked boot loader for warranty claims?
Thanks guys
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Use this guide to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
You can flash stock firmware again but you cant relock your bootloader.

DaRkRhiNe said:
Use this guide to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
You can flash stock firmware again but you cant relock your bootloader.
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Cool thanks. So root will cause void of warranty. I have the Motorola esp insurance. Do you think it also voids that? As a cracked screen has nothing to do with root.
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Your battery times may be completely normal.....depending on what features you leave on, apps you've installed that access those features.....screen brightness, games, how much you make/get calls, signal strength....etc...etc.
My point is, those times you get aren't necessarily cause of an issue.....could be anything above too. Root won't help on its own.....its setup and usage that determine average battery times.

r.storm85 said:
Cool thanks. So root will cause void of warranty. I have the Motorola esp insurance. Do you think it also voids that? As a cracked screen has nothing to do with root.
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Ya I agree. I'm not sure on root yet still checking app settings. Thing is all the apps on my phone are there for a reason. Don't play games and it seems all my settings are good. Im just getting awake time when my screen is off so something is happening and I can't figure it out. Is there anything without root I can use to determine the wake lock?
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r.storm85 said:
Ya I agree. I'm not sure on root yet still checking app settings. Thing is all the apps on my phone are there for a reason. Don't play games and it seems all my settings are good. Im just getting awake time when my screen is off so something is happening and I can't figure it out. Is there anything without root I can use to determine the wake lock?
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You pretty much need root to see that stuff....on kit kat anyway.

kj2112 said:
You pretty much need root to see that stuff....on kit kat anyway.
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Ya that's what I've seen. I really don't want root if I could get another 3-4 hrs of total and another hour of screen on time. And I know it all depends on usage but it seems that isn't too much to ask from this phone when its running right
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Look at all the apps you have.
Uninstall any that haven't been updated this year.
???
Profit.
Basically with the restructure of kit kat apps that haven't been updated for it are causing unnecessary wakelocks, basically not closing properly.

SymbioticGenius said:
Look at all the apps you have.
Uninstall any that haven't been updated this year.
???
Profit.
Basically with the restructure of kit kat apps that haven't been updated for it are causing unnecessary wakelocks, basically not closing properly.
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I'll take a look. Weird is I just switched to art to see how it does and my android is usage went from 20% down to 10%. And its a lot better now. Maybe art really helps on 4.2.2?
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What did you do after the root?

So, as most of you know a root for the AHD came out yesterday. I wanted to say thank you to everyone that worked hours and hours on getting the root, even though Dan gets the money lol. But there are many new comers to android out there, including myself. Coming from the iphone I can tell you everything you can do once you jailbreak and iDevice, but what all have you guys done after you rooted your device. I have owned one android and played around for a while on many, but most of which were completely unlocked and had new roms installed ect. ect. So I thought it would be a good idea for people to be able to post what all they have used the root for so far, so maybe we can use those ideas and make this phone even more awesome.
The first thing I did do was calibrate my battery and have noticed a little bit better life today than I do most days.
I also uninstalled some of AT&T's annoying bloatware (which IMO belongs on NO phone)
So share what you did and give some ideas to all the readers!!!
Thanks again Dan for the root and I know Matt worked for hours and hours on it, so I would like to thank you too
SirHoover2010 said:
So, as most of you know a root for the AHD came out yesterday. I wanted to say thank you to everyone that worked hours and hours on getting the root, even though Dan gets the money lol. But there are many new comers to android out there, including myself. Coming from the iphone I can tell you everything you can do once you jailbreak and iDevice, but what all have you guys done after you rooted your device. I have owned one android and played around for a while on many, but most of which were completely unlocked and had new roms installed ect. ect. So I thought it would be a good idea for people to be able to post what all they have used the root for so far, so maybe we can use those ideas and make this phone even more awesome.
The first thing I did do was calibrate my battery and have noticed a little bit better life today than I do most days.
I also uninstalled some of AT&T's annoying bloatware (which IMO belongs on NO phone)
So share what you did and give some ideas to all the readers!!!
Thanks again Dan for the root and I know Matt worked for hours and hours on it, so I would like to thank you too
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Great thread idea!
First i removed att bloatware/unused ringtones and notifications
Changed boot animation
Gave already owned apps root permissions to do things like one touch reboot, auto dpi changing.
And right now I'm working on changing the color of my softkeys
Underclocked.
Once i get home from my business trip i plan on porting cwm and seeing what we can do from there
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Underlcocked? Why? So you can have a phone that runs for 3 years with eb40??
Hemotherapy said:
Underlcocked? Why? So you can have a phone that runs for 3 years with eb40??
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Lol I was thinking the same thing. The EB40 is an awesome upgrade and I def considering it. I just am at home and work where my phone can be charged all of the time anyways. Not to mention once we get some bloat free roms that run more efficiently, the EB20 should be okay.
After rooting,I install RootExplorer,SQ Lite,Titanium Backup,etc.
Unlocking stock wifi tethering and enabling stock sms delivery reports.
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First thing I'm going to do it over clock and undervolt once some good kernels come out. Next I'm going to play with volume plus to sweeten up the phone audio. Should be a fun experience!
Let the ROM games begin
Custom Roms make phones so much better
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AT&T's boot animation is lame
I've been thinking of getting rid of AT&T's boot animation since I saw it for the first time... My strongest option is the razr's m... Will it work no problem?
QuantumCreator said:
I've been thinking of getting rid of AT&T's boot animation since I saw it for the first time... My strongest option is the razr's m... Will it work no problem?
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actually i just created a thread about that in the themes section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942663
I so far have installed a few root apps and changed my boot animation, slowly starting to mess with phone now
ML417 said:
actually i just created a thread about that in the themes section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1942663
I so far have installed a few root apps and changed my boot animation, slowly starting to mess with phone now
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:I bricked my phone installing "beats installer" so be careful
Matt saved me, but still do not download it lol
SirHoover2010 said:
:I bricked my phone installing "beats installer" so be careful
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I am keeping up with all the root topics here so i know what not to do
Ad Free = 1st thing I did...God I hate ads
Yeah, I hate ads too! Especially on YouTube! I'm using 'Ad Away'. I didn't realize it would do away with the YouTube ads, I'm loving it!
Other things I've done thus far:
Changed my boot screen, installed SetCPU, installed an Emoji font modification, and installed Titanium Backup to rid myself of the bloat apps.
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Can i remove att addressbook?
Can i remove att addressbook? I hate ATT apps
Can anyone list the stock apps that can be uninstaller? THX!
davidjames4 said:
Ad Free = 1st thing I did...God I hate ads
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I did exactly the same. Installed ad free so my 19mo can't buy s#!t when she plays her animal matching game...
Deep rooted in the mAtrix HD...
http://android-gz.com
Lol just downloaded ad free
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i pushed a new spirit in my s2 after root....RESURRECTION.....
vic88 said:
Can i remove att addressbook? I hate ATT apps
Can anyone list the stock apps that can be uninstaller? THX!
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That's the first thing I ripped out. ...just did a quick check, as I've already forgotten all I ripped out, I have no AT&T apps left in my phone.
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ATGAdmin said:
That's the first thing I ripped out. ...just did a quick check, as I've already forgotten all I ripped out, I have no AT&T apps left in my phone.
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Removing the AT&T address book, this doesn't affect the contacts at all, particularly ones that are still on the Sim card?
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Stock features lost once rooted?

Loving the phone. That's why it's the first phone I haven't rooted within the first 24 hours of ownership. If I were to root, which stock features will I lose? Blinkfeed?....Beats?....Wi-Fi calling?...etc...
Thanks in advance.
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You won't lose anything by just rooting it.
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Flyin18T said:
Loving the phone. That's why it's the first phone I haven't rooted within the first 24 hours of ownership. If I were to root, which stock features will I lose? Blinkfeed?....Beats?....Wi-Fi calling?...etc...
Thanks in advance.
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Not sure if you completely understand what rooting means.
You are simply enabling root access, which allows you to change system files. You won't lose anything because of that.
You guys have never seen a proprietary carrier app not work on a rooted phone?
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Flyin18T said:
You guys have never seen a proprietary carrier app not work on a rooted phone?
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Not sure about that but never happened to me so far been with Android since g1
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Flyin18T said:
You guys have never seen a proprietary carrier app not work on a rooted phone?
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Not unless you flash custom roms and start messing with root files.
Just going S-OFF and gaining root privileges will not change your phone in any way.
The benefits are that you can clear out some of the preloaded non-sense, (for me its stuff like dropbox, polaris etc.).
EDIT: beyond that you can flash custom roms and stuff, but for the first little bit, I usually just continue with the stock rom until I decide what I like and dont like.
I can tell you right now, one feature I miss is holding down my volume rocker to switch songs. Without my pebble to change songs right now in the car, I would be flashing roms to get one that allows that feature alone...

Lollipop, or wait for root?

So after all the hype for Lollipop and whatnot, I've been wondering what exactly the differences are between Lollipop and KK. Other than the theme, the lockscreen notifications (which we already have with moto display), and ART. Are there any other major differences?
Furthermore, what's the general opinion on the odds of root being achieved? I know it's more likely on KK, but is it worth waiting to update for, or should I take the Lollipop update when it's rolled out? I don't miss much coming from a rooted device, other than the firewall. Xposed would be nice but I can probably live without it.
Basically I just want to weigh my options for when the time comes.
I will wait.
Also - what can now be achieved without root?
For example:
A lot of apps now support functions that required root before
Tasker
Greenify
Etc.
Being able to disable apps somewhat replaces the need for titanium
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Is there a way to disable the updates coming from Verizon? I want my phone as "stock" as possible in case we ever get root so I'm trying to freeze the HD Calling/VoLTE update from installing but not sure if there is currently a way to do that without having root?
New to the VZ and Droid scene
I just got my Turbo and that update so far has been more than just the Volte after doing an FDR I actually noticed a little better responsiveness. I am looking into battery life now. Even without root or unlocked bootloader it is a pretty cool phone. Aside from the battery draining bloat, does anybody have big drain issues with command center after the update ( that Verizon did instore )
ccheww said:
Also - what can now be achieved without root?
For example:
A lot of apps now support functions that required root before
Tasker
Greenify
Etc.
Being able to disable apps somewhat replaces the need for titanium
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One of the main reasons I want root at this point is to disable the capacitive lights. They stay on a lot of times when they really shouldn't, like when watching movies or videos.
jal3223 said:
One of the main reasons I want root at this point is to disable the capacitive lights. They stay on a lot of times when they really shouldn't, like when watching movies or videos.
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Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en
ccheww said:
Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en
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Awesome! Thanks.
ccheww said:
Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en
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Thanks
ccheww said:
Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en
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Amazing. Thanks!
Absolutely! Every day I find a new app that replaces a need for root. If anyone else has any other similar discoveries (apps that can do things we normally needed root for) please don't hesitate!
Example: My GPS was toggled by itself once (I think through tasker), so I have high hopes that there is some way to toggle GPS without root.
-I'm trying to replicate what happened and what variables I used in tasker.
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I think this is a very good discussion. Is there any news on someone even possibly finding a root method for 4.4? I'll wait if there's any hope of root, but I haven't heard any new info regarding root or even if there is any word of someone even looking into it.
Same
Should we wait?
abrahamjones said:
Should we wait?
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I dont think you should wait to get lollipop once its released. I feel the hold up currently is because lollipop is close to getting released thats its pointless to release a root method now. After the first lollipop update dont i wouldnt take anymore
abrahamjones said:
Should we wait?
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Do you currently have a choice?

Greenify behaving wonky on this handset...

Got my phone delivered yesterday. So far very impressed. No issues, except for one app issue. Greenify behaves wonky on this handset. When I go in to hibernate apps, it seems to stall during the hibernation process. It *looks* like instead of force stopping the app, it does something with moving the app to SD card. I say that because I can "see" it pressing the move to sd button, instead of the force stop button. It's weird. Anyone else notice this?
Did you ever figure this out, I didn't notice any issues with it. I just rooted mine today and plan on using the Greenify rooted. I'll let you know if I see a difference.
ItGuyJax8430 said:
Did you ever figure this out, I didn't notice any issues with it. I just rooted mine today and plan on using the Greenify rooted. I'll let you know if I see a difference.
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No. Never figured it out. I also posted on the Slickdeals thread and someone there confirmed the same thing. I just uninstalled it until someone finds a workaround. Honestly though, I'm not super worried about it. I'm getting between 5-6 hours of SOT without it.
ItGuyJax8430 said:
Did you ever figure this out, I didn't notice any issues with it. I just rooted mine today and plan on using the Greenify rooted. I'll let you know if I see a difference.
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Can you give me the idea to root your phone? Is it Unlock bootloader, then twrp/cwm, then root?
Thanks
quyvinh said:
Can you give me the idea to root your phone? Is it Unlock bootloader, then twrp/cwm, then root?
Thanks
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Check out the guides tab, it has a great guide in getting rooted and unlocked.
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Root vs Not (better to not?)

Alright guys, I've been out of this for a while. Actually...I'm on my rooted Note 7 right now lol.
So I'm looking for user input on what I can still do if not rooted? Phone comes tomorrow btw.
What I'm most interested in is what can still be done without root.... Disabling/freezing apps? Changing notification layout/symbols? Etc.
I know about the 80% charge thing... Could that ever be bypassed btw?
I know this is kind of a big question but I haven't had to do anything since rooting the 7 and I've been sitting here waiting for the 8. There's just so much to catch up on so I'm hoping you guys can help me either understand more of what's new or just give your .02
Thanks all!
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Saafir said:
Personal preference really. You can do just about as much without root as you can with. You can always try root out and go back if you wish. This root method does not permanently break Samsung Pay, so Odin back to stock if not satisfied. I haven't rooted since the last OTA update. Mainly because it's a wonky method. If it was true root, I would say go for it hands down... but yeaaa
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I agree with Saafir! It all about your preference. I have the Note 8 rooted for testing purposes. It is not a true root and a lot of the rooted apps do not work. Plus you cannot have a custom recovery since the boot loader cannot be unlocked at the moment.
Saafir said:
Personal preference really. You can do just about as much without root as you can with. You can always try root out and go back if you wish. This root method does not permanently break Samsung Pay, so Odin back to stock if not satisfied. I haven't rooted since the last OTA update. Mainly because it's a wonky method. If it was true root, I would say go for it hands down... but yeaaa
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Does going back to stock bring back 100% charging?
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jlechner said:
Does going back to stock bring back 100% charging?
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I believe it does. Haven't seen any reports of it not going back to 100% when going back to stock.
I personally have not rooted. There are ways to do what I need to do without root. Just make sure that if you choose to root and will be using the SamFail v2.5 root method, read all that you can and search. Try not to ask questions over there unless they haven't been asked. You will get flamed big time.
Don't mind helping if you get stuck somewhere.
fogame said:
I believe it does. Haven't seen any reports of it not going back to 100% when going back to stock.
I personally have not rooted. There are ways to do what I need to do without root. Just make sure that if you choose to root and will be using the SamFail v2.5 root method, read all that you can and search. Try not to ask questions over there unless they haven't been asked. You will get flamed big time.
Don't mind helping if you get stuck somewhere.
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Roger that.
Yeah, thankfully this wouldn't be my first root rodeo by any means.
I mostly use root for bloatware removal and a handful of xposed modules. Xposed isn't working yet anyways so hopefully there'll be a future with that (or at least some form of alternatives.)
Thanks for the info guys!
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Me personally i love rooting my phones to get a personal touch. But for once I really don't need to root this phone right now. Because i can still get the hotspot for f*** and use nova for a different launcher and they have most things for me to customize like screen savers, different ringers get rid of some annoying toasts popups except for the vol up warning which I can live with. Plus the Samsung pay is the deal breaker for me right now for rooting. Because it is convenient especially when I forget my wallet while at work or a quick run to the junk food store. Till there is a work around like on the note 4 for android pay I used to own before I upgraded to the 8 I'll be a lame stockboy.
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There Is no need to root the n8.. but give it a try .. my two cents is the device seem slower and the apps that you install for root you wouldn't really miss. The Pro of rooting is you can change system files around to your liking and add futures that normal you wouldn't get for free. For example, I would have to pay Sprint to use spam identifier caller ID that normally Samsung would give you for free....

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