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If it's root only...?

If we can only get this thing rooted and not fully unlocked, then will we still be able to have wireless tethering and overclocking, because I know in order to do that you need a modiffied kernel, Right? The only way to flash a new kernel is the same way you would flash a custom rom. Please correct me if I'm wrong!!!

You can still get wireless tethering if you only root yes.

Riztnack said:
You can still get wireless tethering if you only root yes.
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But not overclocking, I believe.

x.v_ said:
But not overclocking, I believe.
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I'm pretty sure you can overclock with just root. The Milestone can be overclocked, and that only has root.

thats good, so to me the only major reason why we would want to be able to flash different roms is so we can get the latest version of Androis ASAP! Otherwise once 2.2 hits the DX we only need root to do the other awsome things! I only care for Overclocking, wireless tethering, titanium backup, and deleting system apps, and a few other random apps requiring root!

What about modifying themes heavily?
Having using a Blackberry in the past, one of the best things about it was the fact that the main theme could be heavily modified, (and often very easily via quick downloads) to show such things as upcoming calendar events, missed calls, and the intros of recent texts and emails; all on one screen at the same time, as well as weather and time. I don't really need apps on my main screen as much as a proper log of what I've missed, is coming up, etc..
The "Today" theme, in its many variations is a common example.
Is this something that's possible just by being rooted? Is this possible without even being rooted? Do any Android phones that are fully hacked open even have the possibility to re-arrange their home screen in a such a way?
I've seen that a calendar and weather/time can be easily done, but I'm looking for something kind of like this (it would show newly unchecked emails and texts if there are any, and rolling over the calendar reveals upcoming events):
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Here's a similar type I also used, that is less minimalistic:
hulkster1970.com/theme/9000/v2/v2_13.jpg
Of course these I used on a much small BB Bold 9000 screen, so I can't imagine what the Droid X could do, if these types of modifications are possible?
Root enough for that? Fully unlocked enough? Just not possible, and I expect too much?
Thanks,
--bb

If that is the interface that your interested in, you should check out the home replacement Slidescreen, it has that kind of layout.

wireless tethering is the only thing I care for NOW.
maybe when Gingerbread comes out then I want some

Irishpride said:
If that is the interface that your interested in, you should check out the home replacement Slidescreen, it has that kind of layout.
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That's absolutely perfect. I will gladly drop $7 for that.
Thanks very much, Irishpride!
/That requires no rooting, or full boot access then? That's exactly what I'm looking for.

can a phone with root only access be flashed to other carriers such as cricket or would you need access to the bootloader?

By the way guys, P3 and Birdman are saying that this might take a very long time to get rooted if not never.

bladebarrier said:
That's absolutely perfect. I will gladly drop $7 for that.
Thanks very much, Irishpride!
/That requires no rooting, or full boot access then? That's exactly what I'm looking for.
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That is pretty cool. Kind of reminds me of my WinMo 6.5 home screen to be honest.

I thought the same thing.

@titanfan, My understanding is that rooting will not be especially difficult or easy, rather flashing custom ROMs will be nearly impossible due to the encrypted bootloader. In other words, the X will be in.the same boat as the Milestone since they share the same bootloader. Please correct if I am wrong

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@titanfan, My understanding is that rooting will not be especially difficult or easy, rather flashing custom ROMs will be nearly impossible due to the encrypted bootloader. In other words, the X will be in.the same boat as the Milestone since they share the same bootloader. Please correct if I am wrong
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Birdman said point-blank, 4+ months for root.
http://twitter.com/mrweeeedbirdman
"If you want a rootable phone, wait 4 months or so on your droid x." Posted July 9th at 11:18pm PST.
However, he's giving cryptic hints today that there's some big news coming about the Droid X. Maybe we're in luck.

Don't need root for BT tethering
BT thethering is already working out of the box with Windows 7 and Linux.
There is another thread in general I think where I've given some instructions. Don't need to pay for tethering.

Does rooting the Moto X make it lose its features?

I am getting the AT&T Moto X within the next few days, and I know that it will have some bloatware on it. Would rooting the device do anything to damage the OS, or would it just be like most rootings and allow me to remove the bloatware?

It will allow you to remove bloatware. As far as I know all my features still work fine.

It may. Some apps check for root and disable things. Motorola bootloader unlock said something about not being able to rent movies/shows via Play since it can alter DRM protected stuff.......and some security prone apps like Google Wallet I think may be affected. I haven't tested either.

I had no problems with anything after I rooted. I haven't seen anyone complain about anything not working in the PwnMyMoto thread the last time I checked it.

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It may. Some apps check for root and disable things. Motorola bootloader unlock said something about not being able to rent movies/shows via Play since it can alter DRM protected stuff.......and some security prone apps like Google Wallet I think may be affected. I haven't tested either.
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I haven't had an issue renting or buying movies from the play movies app. Rooting didn't break tap to pay in my gnex. Relatively few apps are broken with root. None that I use thankfully.
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I haven't had any issues with any app not working because I'm rooted. If there are any issues you can easily hide root from those apps with an app from SuperCurio called OTA RootKeeper. It can be found in the play store.

How do you hide an app with OTA rootkepper. I rooted and am using some xposed themes and noticed that touchless control doesnt work for me?
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I haven't had any issues with any app not working because I'm rooted. If there are any issues you can easily hide root from those apps with an app from SuperCurio called OTA RootKeeper. It can be found in the play store.
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camblue said:
How do you hide an app with OTA rootkepper. I rooted and am using some xposed themes and noticed that touchless control doesnt work for me?
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It doesn't hide apps, it hides root by backing root up and doing a temp unroot. You can later restore root through the backup.
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Oh okay I thought it did something different from what I know, gotcha thanks!
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It doesn't hide apps, it hides root by backing root up and doing a temp unroot. You can later restore root through the backup.
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If your referring to all the custom Moto Features "moto connect, moto assist, active notifications etc." you will not lose these features by rooting. If you were to root & than change to a custom rom that did not have the moto features built in you would then lose your those features. Rooting only gives you writing ability on your filesystem (beyond the manufacture's consent).

Why are you guys posting questions in a themes and apps section? We have a Q&A section for a reason...
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1ManWolfePack said:
Why are you guys posting questions in a themes and apps section? We have a Q&A section for a reason...
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There is a report button where you can inform the mods that this thread is in the wrong section.

mentose457 said:
There is a report button where you can inform the mods that this thread is in the wrong section.
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Shutting down threads is my speciality.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but these threads are organized into certain sections for a reason. If I want an app or theme - I look here. If I want to answer or ask a question - I go to Q&A.
Not rocket science folks.
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gokart2 said:
It may. Some apps check for root and disable things. Motorola bootloader unlock said something about not being able to rent movies/shows via Play since it can alter DRM protected stuff.......and some security prone apps like Google Wallet I think may be affected. I haven't tested either.
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Google movies shouldn't have a problem, it's the downloaded videos (h246 or encrypted?).

In case you ever stumble upon an app that's giving problems because you're rooted, there's a xposed mod called RootCloak. With that you can hide your root access on a per app basis.
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Hi,
I've the Latin America (Brazilian) version of the Moto X XT1058, so far I found it to be the easier version to have bootloader unlocked.
I already have my Unlock code from Motorola but here goes the question.
So far I found browsing the web that after you unlock the bootloader, some services may stop like Google play movies... Well.
I've one Galaxy S4 i9505 rooted and running the CM11, the google play movies don't work on it, return some error, but the play music work fine.
I do very often consume google content so my question lay on the google features itself. Will they stop working after bootloader unlock?
I want to remain stock, but I want to unlock and run Xposed to make some tweaks, for example remove the volume warming message when using headphones.
Thanks in advance !!!
Kind regards,
Johnny

Short answer is No. You will not lose any features by rooting. However, word of advice. If you even need to ask this question I would recommend learing how to return your device back to stock first. If you learn how to return back to stock then you will have more confidence modding your device. There will be bumps in the road where you WILL need to return your device back to stock.

Travisdroidx2 said:
Short answer is No. You will not lose any features by rooting. However, word of advice. If you even need to ask this question I would recommend learing how to return your device back to stock first. If you learn how to return back to stock then you will have more confidence modding your device. There will be bumps in the road where you WILL need to return your device back to stock.
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This

cntryby429 said:
This
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Travisdroidx2 said:
Short answer is No. You will not lose any features by rooting. However, word of advice. If you even need to ask this question I would recommend learing how to return your device back to stock first. If you learn how to return back to stock then you will have more confidence modding your device. There will be bumps in the road where you WILL need to return your device back to stock.
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Hello there!
Thank you very much for your reply!
Seems that in 2-3 weeks Lolipop will reach Motox XT1058, maybe the wise decision now would be wait than risk .
Kind regards,
Johnny

Disable vibration when unlocking through active notifications?

Does anyone know of a fix or app that will disable vibration (and haptic feedback universally across the phone) when unlocking through active notifications?
I love the moto x, but the way it vibrates all the time really annoys me. Friggin hate how OEMs force that into the ROMs. Thanks for any help. You all rule.
2d

Anyone have an idea?
2d

There is no way to remove the vibration from active notification
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I had the phone when it first came out and the vibration used to drive me crazy. I will say I picked it up the other day and with the KITKAT update the vibration is now barely noticeable.

It really drives me nuts too. I loathe haptic response. It just makes a slick phone feel stupid.
I'm thinking there has to be some kind of app that will override system wide haptic control. I just am unaware of it. Does anyone know of an app like that? I am rooted.
2d

I'm thinking more like modifying the apk to disable this. Haven't looked at it yet.
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jmill75 said:
I'm thinking more like modifying the apk to disable this. Haven't looked at it yet.
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The problem for me is that it's a Republic Wireless Moto X and I don't believe the build for it has been released or is even in the wild. If it was, getting an altered version would be my top priority.
Coming from a rooted, unlocked, CM 10.2 running LG Optimus G, having something that can't be disabled is REALLY annoying.
Thanks for the comments. If anyone knows of an app or anything else related to this, I'd be super appreciative.
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The problem for me is that it's a Republic Wireless Moto X and I don't believe the build for it has been released or is even in the wild. If it was, getting an altered version would be my top priority.
Coming from a rooted, unlocked, CM 10.2 running LG Optimus G, having something that can't be disabled is REALLY annoying.
Thanks for the comments. If anyone knows of an app or anything else related to this, I'd be super appreciative.
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I hear ya....I have the RW one too. I've never had an un-rooted Android device before. Took me a while to figure out why there were ads on stuff! I never saw them before. LOL Hopefully we'll get a safe, easy, reversible root soon, and I get get ad-blocking and Titanium Backup back!

jumphour said:
I hear ya....I have the RW one too. I've never had an un-rooted Android device before. Took me a while to figure out why there were ads on stuff! I never saw them before. LOL Hopefully we'll get a safe, easy, reversible root soon, and I get get ad-blocking and Titanium Backup back!
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Root exist. JCase's works just fine, and exactly as described. While I haven't checked I'm pretty sure the same reverse unroot process works on it as well. Haven't checked though.
Hopefully Motorola fixes it themselves, but a nice custom stock rom would be really nice as well. Just needs to be RW specific as they have their wifi portion hard written into the system.
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2disbetter said:
Root exist. JCase's works just fine, and exactly as described. While I haven't checked I'm pretty sure the same reverse unroot process works on it as well. Haven't checked though.
Hopefully Motorola fixes it themselves, but a nice custom stock rom would be really nice as well. Just needs to be RW specific as they have their wifi portion hard written into the system.
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I've only had the phone for 2 days, and I'm not quite brave enough to try it yet! I will eventually, once I read that more people have done it, I guess.

Notification LED

Hello, how do I get the Notification led on my Nexus device to work without rooting ?

Clarify please. Are you trying to enable the notification LED, or something else? If the Notification LED, you can't enable it without root.

LED backlight? Some televisions and other devices have LED backlights in their LCD displays, but Nexus 6 uses an AMOLED display, which actually uses millions of individual LEDs to produce the pixels. It HAS NO backlight.

My bad. It's the notification LED

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Hello, how do I get the Notification led on my Nexus device to work without rooting ?
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no root, its not going to happen. you can only enable it with root.

I heard rooting affects speed of getting updates on the phone, that's why I don't want to root it.

Paul Moses said:
I heard rooting affects speed of getting updates on the phone, that's why I don't want to root it.
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rooting affects updates, but not the speed at which you get them. you can not apply an ota when you have root. but you can update manually whenever you please.

I will stick to the ambient mode in that case, the notification LED would have been a nice compliment though. Manual stuff is only exciting for a short while .Gets tiring in the long run

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Manual stuff is only exciting for a short while .Gets tiring in the long run
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see now, thats just how you feel about it. me, i feel opposite, i enjoy the being able to do anything manually with any nexus. i guess thats why ive been with every nexus since the beginning.

Paul Moses said:
Hello, how do I get the Notification led on my Nexus device to work without rooting ?
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@sims22,
Actually this works without root. I've been using it on my N6 for several months now. But don't think for a moment that you'll be able to install an OTA after flashing this. This file does modify the system.
Note: use the file in post #95. See the instructions in post #103.
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/led-control-stock-xposed-t3146814/page11

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@sims22,
Actually this works without root. I've been using it on my N6 for several months now. But don't think for a moment that you'll be able to install an OTA after flashing this. This file does modify the system.
Note: use the file in post #95. See the instructions in post #103.
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/led-control-stock-xposed-t3146814/page11
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neat

simms22 said:
see now, thats just how you feel about it. me, i feel opposite, i enjoy the being able to do anything manually with any nexus. i guess thats why ive been with every nexus since the beginning.
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People are different .I rooted my LG G3 a long time ago. Explored it 100% but got bored with the processes overtime

Which one is better, the ambient mode or LED notification ?

cam30era said:
@sims22,
Actually this works without root. I've been using it on my N6 for several months now. But don't think for a moment that you'll be able to install an OTA after flashing this. This file does modify the system.
Note: use the file in post #95. See the instructions in post #103.
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/led-control-stock-xposed-t3146814/page11
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@cam30era . That's awesome but most people avoiding the root process do so to avoid losing OTA updates .This method doesn't require root but it also doesn't cover the risk I'm trying to avoid .

Paul Moses said:
@cam30era . That's awesome but most people avoiding the root process do so to avoid losing OTA updates .This method doesn't require root but it also doesn't cover the risk I'm trying to avoid .
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Understood.

Paul Moses said:
People are different .I rooted my LG G3 a long time ago. Explored it 100% but got bored with the processes overtime
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modifying a lg g3 and modifying a nexus device are two completely different experiences.

simms22 said:
modifying a lg g3 and modifying a nexus device are two completely different experiences.
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Okay. I'll explore this difference soon

Paul Moses said:
Which one is better, the ambient mode or LED notification ?
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I prefer both because I don't always see Ambient turn the display on.
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Has any app that makes the ambient display permanently on been developed?
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Paul Moses said:
Has any app that makes the ambient display permanently on been developed?
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Not sure what you mean. Ambient Display is built into all(?) Android 6+ ROMs.
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Waiting for root?

Got my brand new S10+ yesterday, and found out that no one rooted it yet (am I right?).
Migrating from a previous phone to a new one usually takes me a couple of hours of setting up everything, and a couple more of fiddling around, and I'll hate to do it twice.
I'm guessing its going to take a similar amount of time for many of you guys that likes everything customized & tailored.
So... what do you say?
Migrate (and then when a safe rooting method is out there - repeat everything)?
Wait for root while your brand new & shiny phone smiles at you from your desk while collecting dust?
How long do you think we'll wait until someone comes up with a rooting solution?

I'm gonna set mine up and use it like normal, just no updating at all until a root methods is discovered, preferably one with an unlocked bootloader and that doesn't trip Knox. I haven't had a Galaxy device since the Note 4, Knox is still a thing, right?
Also, I assume you tried unlocked the bootloader in developer options and it didn't work?

Rooting has become a more difficult process in the last few recent years. I'm pretty sure the snapdragon variant is the one that likely won't get a root method or that it will be a long while until it comes around - I could be wrong and not trying to spread misinformation...
Truth be told, the Galaxy s8 was the first phone I felt I didn't need to have root with. The ability to remove apps out of the box, freezing unneeded apps, and substratum for theming really helped with that. I can't wait for my s10 to get here Friday. I don't expect root, but with the new UI, and hopefully, the ability to theme or have a dark mode once again will likely stem that feeling to need root.

While I can obviously live without root since I did pre-order this phone, i will still be a bit sad without Viper4Android

jitz said:
Got my brand new S10+ yesterday, and found out that no one rooted it yet (am I right?).
Migrating from a previous phone to a new one usually takes me a couple of hours of setting up everything, and a couple more of fiddling around, and I'll hate to do it twice.
I'm guessing its going to take a similar amount of time for many of you guys that likes everything customized & tailored.
So... what do you say?
Migrate (and then when a safe rooting method is out there - repeat everything)?
Wait for root while your brand new & shiny phone smiles at you from your desk while collecting dust?
How long do you think we'll wait until someone comes up with a rooting solution?
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You're going to have to post a model # or something US/International Snapdragon/Exynos before anyone can answer that question. Exynos=root, US Snapdragon=probably never.

If you have any Samsung Snapdragon phone and are waiting for someone to root it you'll see the sun burn out and die sooner.

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Also, I assume you tried unlocked the bootloader in developer options and it didn't work?
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I did see that option under the dev menu, but I didnt try to use it, because AFAIK, bootloader unlocking is only the first step towards a properly rooted device....
Is there any advantage for unlocking the bootloader (before a rooting method is discovered) that I'm missing?
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Truth be told, the Galaxy s8 was the first phone I felt I didn't need to have root with. The ability to remove apps out of the box, freezing unneeded apps, and substratum for theming really helped with that. I can't wait for my s10 to get here Friday. I don't expect root, but with the new UI, and hopefully, the ability to theme or have a dark mode once again will likely stem that feeling to need root.
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Here are my main reasons:
1. Titanium backup - need I say more?
2. Get rid of bloatware
3. Properly block ads
You'll find plenty of other reasons here: https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/all-reasons-you-should-root-your-phone-0189131/
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You're going to have to post a model # or something US/International Snaodragon/Exynos before anyone can answer that question. Exynos=root, US Snapdragon=probably never.
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roaduardo said:
If you have any Samsung Snapdragon phone and are waiting for someone to root it you'll see the sun burn out and die sooner.
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Luckily, I'm with a SM-G975F (Exynos 9820)
What do you think are the odds for having the Exynos variants rooted?

Luckily, I'm with a SM-G975F (Exynos 9820)
What do you think are the odds for having the Exynos variants rooted?
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Fair

When you unlock the boot loader, it’ll factory reset your device, including wiping internal sd card. Best to go ahead and do that sooner than later imo

lightmastertech said:
When you unlock the boot loader, it’ll factory reset your device, including wiping internal sd card. Best to go ahead and do that sooner than later imo
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I'm aware that rooting will wipe my device clean - thats the reason I brought the question up...
But - are there any other steps in the currently known Samsung rooting methods that will also wipe my phone?
In other words - if I'll unlock the bootloader now (and factory reset my phone) - will I be able to root & keep my data and setup in the future (once a rooting method is discovered)?

My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
Titanium Backup (to delete some system apps) is also nice. I still have my rooted 6T but I doubt I'll be using it much after I get my S10(E) tomorrow.

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My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
Titanium Backup (to delete some system apps) is also nice. I still have my rooted 6T but I doubt I'll be using it much after I get my S10(E) tomorrow.
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Oh man don't even mention Titanium Backup. I had many rooted Moto phones from the original thru the G4 and even did some rom development with them. Titanium Backup was one of the first and best apps I ever paid for. The one good thing about Motos though , it was almost impossible to brick a Moto.

Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??

First time with pie? Why are you trolling the forum reposting this question instead of spending a minute looking?
After you tap build number and it tells you that developer options have been enabled, go back to the top level menu and scroll all the way down. It's at the very bottom.

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Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
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Don't give people heart attacks like that, lol. Gotta have developed options at least to speed up the animations.

roaduardo said:
My main reason for wanting root is call recording and Swift installer support. But I think maybe Swift installer is now working on Pie? I haven't confirmed that yet. But call recording has been a valuable tool for me. I hope one day someone, an app or whatever, can get it working on Pie without root.
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Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.

mrao said:
Guys, anyone having issues locating developer options after tapping the Build number 7 times??
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It's under /Settings/System in Pie

jitz said:
Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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Where are you from?

jitz said:
Actually, it used to be my top reason for rooting my previous devices, BUT:
to my surprise - Samsung included call recording on their OFFICIAL S10 rom (in my country), so I have this feature out of the box, integrated into the in-call screen.
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LUCKY!

edopa said:
Where are you from?
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Israel,
It seems that all of the S10 variants sold here supports call recording out of the box.