So basically I'll be trying this out tomorrow.
Getting Samsung to put a t-mobile rom on my ATT S5 (and maybe even unlock a bootloader in the process?)
This rep is either wholly confused or a nice guy :good: haha anyway,
some hope is better than none.
Chat transcript:
"info: Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'Marlin'. There will be a brief survey at the end of our chat to share feedback on my performance today.
info: Your Issue ID for this chat is (redacted fools)
Marlin: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: Hey I'm just wondering why the att and verizon galaxy s5 is denied root access while all other variants we're allowed it?
Visitor: Most of what I use my phone for requires root access and now I'm stuck with this ATT paperweight
Visitor: were*
Marlin: I understand that you want to root your device. Correct?
Visitor: I'd prefer to use a stock google rom
Visitor: but seen as that isn't possible
Visitor: yes
Marlin: Thank you for confirming.
Marlin: Samsung does not recommend rooting the device as it affects the device performance and also void the warranty.
Visitor: But they supported it for the other variants
Visitor: just not att and verizon
Visitor: Samsung specifically blocked root on ATT and Verizon and did not implement that block on any other variant
Visitor: If I had a t-mobile S5 I wouldn't be talking to you right now
Marlin: I am sorry; the features and security settings on the device are carrier specific. The devices are manufactured depending on the carrier requirements.
Marlin: The features on the device would vary from carrier to carrier.
Visitor: But having root access is hardly a feature of the phone
Visitor: What you're saying is Verizon and ATT specifically requested that their variants of the S5 were not allowed to have root access
Marlin: Yes, on few devices the bootloader is locked from the carrier.
Visitor: So lets say I change my carrier to t-mobile but still have this ATT firmware
Visitor: would samsung be able to put a tmobile firmware on my phone for use with the tmobile specific apps
Visitor: an official one
Visitor: without root etc
Marlin: Yes, you are correct. Even if you change the carrier to T-mobile, the device would have ATT firmware as the device is initially released from ATT.
Marlin: If you change the carrier, the bootloader on the device will be unlocked. (Uhhhhhhwhat?)
Visitor: My phone is SIM-unlocked. I have used my sisters tmobile sim card in this phone (lie lol)
Visitor: it certainly didnt change anything to do with the bootloader
Visitor: Lets say I go to a samsung care place in best buy would they be able to put the official tmobile firmware on my phone
Marlin: Yes, you can get the firmware changed at Samsung experience shop at best buy.
Visitor: Thank you very much."
Either way, it really doesn't change anything. Even if they flashed a new ROM/modem (which I doubt they would do anyway) what would be the purpose? You might as well just swap it for the T-mobile model then, since it would be the exact same thing.
Negative. Bestbuy's Samsung Kiosk does not have the ability to change the bootloader of the device. The locked bootloader is tied to the hardware itself (Qfuse) and not just a firmware based lock, so unless they plan on changing the motherboard...
scott14719 said:
Negative. Bestbuy's Samsung Kiosk does not have the ability to change the bootloader of the device. The locked bootloader is tied to the hardware itself (Qfuse) and not just a firmware based lock, so unless they plan on changing the motherboard...
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It's their device if anyone could unlock the bootloader I'd put my money on samsung
edit- The built in hardware restrictions that prevent exploits may not apply given they're not using at all the same tools as the public to modify the phone.
scott14719 said:
Negative. Bestbuy's Samsung Kiosk does not have the ability to change the bootloader of the device. The locked bootloader is tied to the hardware itself (Qfuse) and not just a firmware based lock, so unless they plan on changing the motherboard...
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I kinda disagree with that, because I had s4 the official release, with MDL firmware, rooted and kept that bootloader and was able to flash any roms I wanted even international roms and would flash appropriate kernels and add att apns, if I would have taken the OTA MF3, firmware my bootloader would have been locked, and I know threw Odin you can flash bootloaders, so I've been wondering if anyone has tried to take the official tmobile .tar file and use Odin to flash it on an att phone, if that worked and could root all you would have to do is flash att modem and add att apn, but I would figure someone has tried this?maybe I'm totally wrong but seems logical.
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And it can't be hardware Samsung sends phones to carriers they then lock them down and add there bloat.they don't change motherboards
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djmouse said:
I kinda disagree with that, because I had s4 the official release, with MDL firmware, rooted and kept that bootloader and was able to flash any roms I wanted even international roms and would flash appropriate kernels and add att apns, if I would have taken the OTA MF3, firmware my bootloader would have been locked, and I know threw Odin you can flash bootloaders, so I've been wondering if anyone has tried to take the official tmobile .tar file and use Odin to flash it on an att phone, if that worked and could root all you would have to do is flash att modem and add att apn, but I would figure someone has tried this?maybe I'm totally wrong but seems logical.
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You can disagree all day, but it's still not possible. MDL firmware used an exploit (LOKI) to bypass the chain of trust. In no way was the bootloader unlocked or exchanged. If you look at my signature, you will see that is what I have now. The only way it was possible was via exploit, which was patched in the MF3 firmware update and beyond. As of now, another exploit like LOKI has not been found ( and may not exist).
ODIN can not flash firmware on phones with bootloaders that have been blown Q-fuses...the count can only implement up.
There has been extensive research and testing done about all of this already. Extremely talented Developers have tried every way known (as of yet) to exchange firmwares on different branded phones with locked bootloaders with the firmware of phones that have unlocked bootloader. A good example is the work put into trying to put the GE edition firmware (and unlocked bootloader) onto the AT&T and Verizon S4s...it just couldn't happen.
Please take some time to review the various bootloader threads about the locked bootloaders on the S3s, S4s, etc... Adam Outler has some interesting and technical threads with a lot of information.
Maybe something will be found in the future, but it hasn't been found yet, and Bestbuys definitely doesn't have it.
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Alarand said:
It's their device if anyone could unlock the bootloader I'd put my money on samsung
edit- The built in hardware restrictions that prevent exploits may not apply given they're not using at all the same tools as the public to modify the phone.
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I'm fully aware of the tools they use and they cannot unlock bootloaders.
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Alarand said:
So basically I'll be trying this out tomorrow.
Getting Samsung to put a t-mobile rom on my ATT S5 (and maybe even unlock a bootloader in the process?)
This rep is either wholly confused or a nice guy :good: haha anyway,
some hope is better than none.
Chat transcript:
"info: Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'Marlin'. There will be a brief survey at the end of our chat to share feedback on my performance today.
info: Your Issue ID for this chat is (redacted fools)
Marlin: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: Hey I'm just wondering why the att and verizon galaxy s5 is denied root access while all other variants we're allowed it?
Visitor: Most of what I use my phone for requires root access and now I'm stuck with this ATT paperweight
Visitor: were*
Marlin: I understand that you want to root your device. Correct?
Visitor: I'd prefer to use a stock google rom
Visitor: but seen as that isn't possible
Visitor: yes
Marlin: Thank you for confirming.
Marlin: Samsung does not recommend rooting the device as it affects the device performance and also void the warranty.
Visitor: But they supported it for the other variants
Visitor: just not att and verizon
Visitor: Samsung specifically blocked root on ATT and Verizon and did not implement that block on any other variant
Visitor: If I had a t-mobile S5 I wouldn't be talking to you right now
Marlin: I am sorry; the features and security settings on the device are carrier specific. The devices are manufactured depending on the carrier requirements.
Marlin: The features on the device would vary from carrier to carrier.
Visitor: But having root access is hardly a feature of the phone
Visitor: What you're saying is Verizon and ATT specifically requested that their variants of the S5 were not allowed to have root access
Marlin: Yes, on few devices the bootloader is locked from the carrier.
Visitor: So lets say I change my carrier to t-mobile but still have this ATT firmware
Visitor: would samsung be able to put a tmobile firmware on my phone for use with the tmobile specific apps
Visitor: an official one
Visitor: without root etc
Marlin: Yes, you are correct. Even if you change the carrier to T-mobile, the device would have ATT firmware as the device is initially released from ATT.
Marlin: If you change the carrier, the bootloader on the device will be unlocked. (Uhhhhhhwhat?)
Visitor: My phone is SIM-unlocked. I have used my sisters tmobile sim card in this phone (lie lol)
Visitor: it certainly didnt change anything to do with the bootloader
Visitor: Lets say I go to a samsung care place in best buy would they be able to put the official tmobile firmware on my phone
Marlin: Yes, you can get the firmware changed at Samsung experience shop at best buy.
Visitor: Thank you very much."
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you're linking two affirmative answers to two different questions.
yes, if you switched carriers to t mobile you could get a device with an unlocked boot loader.
yes, you can probably get best buy to flash t mobile firmware to your phone. odds are you could do it yourself.
the two are not the same...
I've read alot of Adams threads but not much on the s5, what has been attempted and what has not, is there a thread on that? And so your saying it's impossible to put the tmobile firmware on an att phone threw Odin or stock recovery?
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Or trying when running ART when phone is in custom st a t us?
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djmouse said:
I've read alot of Adams threads but not much on the s5, what has been attempted and what has not, is there a thread on that? And so your saying it's impossible to put the tmobile firmware on an att phone threw Odin or stock recovery?
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Or trying when running ART when phone is in custom st a t us?
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I believe people have tried it using odin which is why I wanted to get samsung to do it so if they brick my phone in the process they're liable
djmouse said:
I've read alot of Adams threads but not much on the s5, what has been attempted and what has not, is there a thread on that? And so your saying it's impossible to put the tmobile firmware on an att phone threw Odin or stock recovery?
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Or trying when running ART when phone is in custom st a t us?
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Q-fuses are on the S5 too, just look at the aboot.
T-mobile firmware cannot be put on an AT&T phone (S4 /S5) with a locked Bootloader with the exception of LOKI (MDL) because the T-Mobile Kernel cannot be flashed to the phone. Not even Safestrap (again S4) can flash kernels. It has been rumored for a long time now that Hashcode has been working on a form of Kexec for the AT&T Samsung phones, but it hasn't happened yet.
The S5s have just come out, but the tech Samsung uses to lock the bootloaders hasn't changed much...and it is working well.
Alarand said:
I believe people have tried it using odin which is why I wanted to get samsung to do it so if they brick my phone in the process they're liable
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Well please keep us posted on what happens, try to take mental notes on what they try if you can , I'm curious how they will go about It if they even do, I still have a hard time beliving Samsung at best buy would even attempt such a thing, they barley could answer simple questions I've had.
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idk there's not much difference in the firmware and SE security
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djmouse said:
Well please keep us posted on what happens, try to take mental notes on what they try if you can , I'm curious how they will go about It if they even do, I still have a hard time beliving Samsung at best buy would even attempt such a thing, they barley could answer simple questions I've had.
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Yeah I doubt they will either honestly but I'm frustrated enough to waste a drive to that blue shirted hell hole
Is their a development thread for this phone, im familiar with other qualcom devices and even some on the qfuses.
I work at the SES in Best Buy, and I can tell you there is nothing we can do. The things we use are the same that you all have access to. I don't even think we could flash a different carrier's firmware if we wanted to, it'll brick the device.. Definitely cannot unlock the bootloader, as stated above by others.
And to be honest OP, I wouldn't go around trying to get them to flash a different firmware if I were you. Just trying to save you some headache here. Because if they do brick the device, it'll be a hassle.
If the employee was trained properly, then they won't even attempt to flash a different carrier's firmware.
Schultz_91 said:
I work at the SES in Best Buy, and I can tell you there is nothing we can do. The things we use are the same that you all have access to. I don't even think we could flash a different carrier's firmware if we wanted to, it'll brick the device.. Definitely cannot unlock the bootloader, as stated above by others.
And to be honest OP, I wouldn't go around trying to get them to flash a different firmware if I were you. Just trying to save you some headache here. Because if they do brick the device, it'll be a hassle.
If the employee was trained properly, then they won't even attempt to flash a different carrier's firmware.
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Fair enough thanks for clarifying, the samsung support employees do seem hopelessly inept.
It's not really surprising as much as it is disappointing but yeah one less wasted drive
omgbossis21 said:
Is their a development thread for this phone, im familiar with other qualcom devices and even some on the qfuses.
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There is a development thread for this phone, but since there is no root or exploit yet there are no posts in the development thread yet, if you check t mobiles forum there are development threads with posts, and roms and such.
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Nice try though!
scott14719 said:
Negative. Bestbuy's Samsung Kiosk does not have the ability to change the bootloader of the device. The locked bootloader is tied to the hardware itself (Qfuse) and not just a firmware based lock, so unless they plan on changing the motherboard...
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well unfortunately thats not how it works, the MBL is flashable via odin (or any other device mfg for that matter), in fact if you download any of the samsung official firmwares out there you will see that most (Not all but most) will include a MBL file as well as the system, cache, CSC and other partitions.
Boot Loaders are flashable and do not require system board replacements, if they did no device made would ever (and I meen EVER) have the bootloader unlocked by ANY exploit or other means.
cstayton said:
well unfortunately thats not how it works, the MBL is flashable via odin (or any other device mfg for that matter), in fact if you download any of the samsung official firmwares out there you will see that most (Not all but most) will include a MBL file as well as the system, cache, CSC and other partitions.
Boot Loaders are flashable and do not require system board replacements, if they did no device made would ever (and I meen EVER) have the bootloader unlocked by ANY exploit or other means.
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Give it a try and find out. I guess you think all of the work already done towards this (and there has been a lot) is all wrong? I tell you what, get an S4 with MK2 firmware on it and try to flash MDL onto it or even T-mobile firmware onto it via ODIN and then make sure you come back and report how wrong I am.
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Hiya.
Recently bought a genuine UK SIM-free/unlocked HTC One (M7) online. Noticed that the Android OS is still stuck to 4.3.
I thought Android 4.4.2 is now available to UK customers for unlocked handsets? And what are the improvements to the phone?
Please advice. Thanks.
Use this app to check your CID: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.tritonsoft.cidgetter
What CID does it say? For UK unbranded, unlocked handsets it's HTC__001. I got the update just fine.
KiraYahiroz said:
Use this app to check your CID: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.tritonsoft.cidgetter
What CID does it say? For UK unbranded, unlocked handsets it's HTC__001. I got the update just fine.
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My CID is : VODAP001. That seems to suggest it is originally a Vodaphone-locked device but it has been unlocked since.
My i know what's my next move?
Gino76ph said:
My CID is : VODAP001. That seems to suggest it is originally a Vodaphone-locked device but it has been unlocked since.
My i know what's my next move?
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Same here, I'm from Croatia and have T-Mobile De version, but still can't update.
I've contacted HTC and they removed 4.4.2. update in some places. They'll roll it out again later, probably with Sense 6. We'll have to be patient until then
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But still, call HTC support for UK and let them check your phone (by IMEI) and tell you if you have the "good" version
Gino76ph said:
My CID is : VODAP001. That seems to suggest it is originally a Vodaphone-locked device but it has been unlocked since.
My i know what's my next move?
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hrvoje334 said:
Same here, I'm from Croatia and have T-Mobile De version, but still can't update.
I've contacted HTC and they removed 4.4.2. update in some places. They'll roll it out again later, probably with Sense 6. We'll have to be patient until then
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But still, call HTC support for UK and let them check your phone (by IMEI) and tell you if you have the "good" version
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Reason why both of you don't have the update yet is because your CID and software is locked to the previous carrier, meaning it's up to them to release the update, not HTC.
This will wipe your phone, but it will unbrand your phone if you follow it correctly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358738
This basically flashes the unbranded version of the ROM and changing the CID to one that HTC does support, so you'll get updates directly from HTC instead of the carrier.
Sorry but right now i'm not prepared to unbrand the phone as it seems to me its too much of a long & winding process. Seeing the link seems too technical for me.
What i have done instead is ring HTC. Gave them the serial number of the phone and they told me that it IS Vodafone-branded phone. They adviced me to contact Vodafone which i did. The Vodafone support person doesn't seem to have a clue to what i'm saying and seems not familiar to how updates are released. He kept on insisting (based on the circumstances i have presented to him|) that Vodafone has nothing to do with updates. Person sounded stupid really.
I tried a Three and an EE SIM card on the One M7 and it works. So far no updates yet.
I can also confirm that being an unlocked phone it has NO Vodafone branding or logo or apps or bloatware on the phone itself.
So, i'm stuck with a year old phone with a old-gen Android OS.
So...what's next please?
Gino76ph said:
Sorry but right now i'm not prepared to unbrand the phone as it seems to me its too much of a long & winding process. Seeing the link seems too technical for me.
What i have done instead is ring HTC. Gave them the serial number of the phone and they told me that it IS Vodafone-branded phone. They adviced me to contact Vodafone which i did. The Vodafone support person doesn't seem to have a clue to what i'm saying and seems not familiar to how updates are released. He kept on insisting (based on the circumstances i have presented to him|) that Vodafone has nothing to do with updates. Person sounded stupid really.
I tried a Three and an EE SIM card on the One M7 and it works. So far no updates yet.
I can also confirm that being an unlocked phone it has NO Vodafone branding or logo or apps or bloatware on the phone itself.
So, i'm stuck with a year old phone with a old-gen Android OS.
So...what's next please?
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Go here: http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/
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Go here: http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/
and click on
then you'll see why the updates can take a while to come out: http://www.htc.com/assets-desktop/images/softwareupdates/HTC-Anatomy-of-an-Android.jpg
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According to this, every KitKat with Sense 5.5 for One is out. But as I said, some carriers removed the update. Also, some carriers have already released Sense 6. I hope that we'll see direct update to Sense 6 in a month or two
Sorry but the ,link you have given me wasn't very helpful as i'm living in the UK.
Still, i feel not confident with what information/advice HTC and Vodafone has given me as i feel i have been passed around.
What i need to know is what i need to do with my phone as regards updates? (see my previous reply)
Gino76ph said:
Sorry but the ,link you have given me wasn't very helpful as i'm living in the UK.
Still, i feel not confident with what information/advice HTC and Vodafone has given me as i feel i have been passed around.
What i need to know is what i need to do with my phone as regards updates? (see my previous reply)
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To install OTA updates, your phone MUST be stock (ROM and recovery)
sim unlocked or bootloader unlocked is OK
mb_guy said:
To install OTA updates, your phone MUST be stock (ROM and recovery)
sim unlocked or bootloader unlocked is OK
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I have explained many times that my phone is unlocked & SIM free albeit being Vodafone-branded.
So, it still doesn't answer my question: why no Android 4.4.2 for my phone?
I've read an article that One is getting Sense 6 update today! (for unlocked devices). My is branded to T-Mobile, but I hope that I'll get the update until the end of the month
Because the software is still modified slightly by Vodafone. You may have the phone network unlocked but it doesn't mean it's software unbranded. It's still up to Vodafone to update it. To be honest, this sounds more like a second hand handset instead, perhaps the original owner got it for free from an upgrade, unlocked it, and then sold it on as he was probably using another phone.
Vodafone customer support won't know anything, they're not taught anything technical, only the network side of things, which is why they can't answer you.
Honestly, you should just unlock and S-OFF the phone, and change it to a proper unbranded model if you want to get the latest updates from HTC.
KiraYahiroz said:
Because the software is still modified slightly by Vodafone. You may have the phone network unlocked but it doesn't mean it's software unbranded. It's still up to Vodafone to update it. To be honest, this sounds more like a second hand handset instead, perhaps the original owner got it for free from an upgrade, unlocked it, and then sold it on as he was probably using another phone.
Vodafone customer support won't know anything, they're not taught anything technical, only the network side of things, which is why they can't answer you.
Honestly, you should just unlock and S-OFF the phone, and change it to a proper unbranded model if you want to get the latest updates from HTC.
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But why should i get the phone unlocked as its already unlocked in the first place as i'm able to put an SIM on it?
And what do you mean by S-OFF? Is that term called "debranding?
When I mean unlock, I mean bootloader unlocking, which is different from network unlocking and allows you to flash other ROMs.
S-OFF allows you to change the CID, which is needed if you want to receive updates for another version of the HTC One, such as the unbranded version.
I have four years of owning and using an Android phone. Never been a developer or have IT skills or been into rooting phones. I consider myself somewhere above an intermediate user and under expert level.
So, it easy to unlock the bootloader and S-OFF my HTC One M7?
WIll it almost guarantee me i'll still be able to receive the Android 4.4.2 update and (perhaps) beyond?
Gino76ph said:
I have four years of owning and using an Android phone. Never been a developer or have IT skills or been into rooting phones. I consider myself somewhere above an intermediate user and under expert level.
So, it easy to unlock the bootloader and S-OFF my HTC One M7?
WIll it almost guarantee me i'll still be able to receive the Android 4.4.2 update and (perhaps) beyond?
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I've rooted and s-off every phone, but few months after purchase, when I got bored with stock.
If you are doing this for the first time, even though you have good tutorials, it still won't be easy for you. I don't know anything about rooting M7 because I have it for a week, but it probably isn't so easy as it looks like, and it will take you few hours to do it (maybe days if you screw something).
If you unbrand your phone than yes, you will definitely be able to update to 4.4.2. But you need to know that if you do that, you will void your warranty for an almost new phone.
My recommendation: since I've seen that Sense 6 is already out for some carriers in US, it will probably be available in the Europe soon. So be patient and wait for a few weeks, and you'll probably receive direct update to 4.4.2 and Sense 6.
Gino76ph said:
I have explained many times that my phone is unlocked & SIM free albeit being Vodafone-branded.
So, it still doesn't answer my question: why no Android 4.4.2 for my phone?
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Here's the UK site: http://www.htc.com/uk/go/htc-software-updates/
and according to this: http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/HTC-One-series/HTC-One-Android-4-4-KitKat/m-p/1943764
4.19.161.10 was released in Feb
Maybe if you search you can find the OTA file somewhere on the net and apply it manually, or check with vodafone, why you're not receiving it.
Cheers
I just want to inform you that I've received 4.4.2 update today. But Sense 5.5, not 6.
HTC_One_M8_91 said:
I just want to inform you that I've received 4.4.2 update today. But Sense 5.5, not 6.
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But that's Sense 6.0. NOT Android 4.4.2.
I have seen the forums that its easy to shift from cricket wireless firmware to at&t but the problen is i have saw people saying that you will lose your unlocked sim or it will get relocked by the carrier as it upgrades.....is that true?
Also wanted to know if someone can post a tutorial or something like that... im currently on buildnumber g920aztuu3boj6
And im looking forward to upgrade to MM
It would be great if somone helped me out?
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Can someone also provide me a link for g920azauu3bjo6
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I's following this topic and now my Cricket's is 6.0.1, G920AUCU3CPD6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...ating-to-android-6-0-1-g920aucu3cpd6-t3371884
shergrief said:
I have seen the forums that its easy to shift from cricket wireless firmware to at&t but the problen is i have saw people saying that you will lose your unlocked sim or it will get relocked by the carrier as it upgrades.....is that true?
Also wanted to know if someone can post a tutorial or something like that... im currently on buildnumber g920aztuu3boj6
And im looking forward to upgrade to MM
It would be great if somone helped me out
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Link is right above....
Yes, it is easy. Only benefit to do it at this point is better android security updates in the future...right now ATT and Cricket are on same android security update.
Downfall is, I have not found a way to go back at all. You get ATT bloatware. Some of which it terrible....you also don't get OTA updates. and yes it relocks your GSM Sim unlock....(However, all you need to do to fix this is call Cricket again and get a new unlock code if you do not have the previous unlock code and reinput it.)
At this point however I would not do it, and wish I could go back.
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shergrief said:
I have seen the forums that its easy to shift from cricket wireless firmware to at&t but the problen is i have saw people saying that you will lose your unlocked sim or it will get relocked by the carrier as it upgrades.....is that true?
Also wanted to know if someone can post a tutorial or something like that... im currently on buildnumber g920aztuu3boj6
And im looking forward to upgrade to MM
It would be great if somone helped me out?
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ARE YOU STILL ON CRICKET? you should of gotten MM from cricket.
I didnt get the ota of mm,i flashed mm directly from odin and it works fine. thanks for your kind help
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shergrief said:
I have seen the forums that its easy to shift from cricket wireless firmware to at&t but the problen is i have saw people saying that you will lose your unlocked sim or it will get relocked by the carrier as it upgrades.....is that true?
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Once you physically do an unlock on a Samsung S6 device(*putting another sim in and booting up the phone and inputting the code.) then the device will remain unlocked and you can flash threw odin, or backups or factory reset the phone without losing the unlock. Only way I know the lock can be re-enabled is if you do an emergency factory recovery on the phone or you have the phone serviced(in which they do an emergency factory recovery on the phone.) and I don't even know if you can force an emergency recover in Smart Switch anymore like you used to be able to do with Kies.
Wondering if anyone has been able to flash the unlocked firmware onto the T-Mobile Note8.
Previous to my Note8 I had a Galaxy s8 which was flashed with the U1 firmware using Odin...
I looked and didn't any post/thread about this, however my apologies if I missed it -- if said thread/post exists where it explains how-to I'd LOVE to see it.
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Wondering if anyone has been able to flash the unlocked firmware onto the T-Mobile Note8.
Previous to my Note8 I had a Galaxy s8 which was flashed with the U1 firmware using Odin...
I looked and didn't any post/thread about this, however my apologies if I missed it -- if said thread/post exists where it explains how-to I'd LOVE to see it.
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Yup. I did it. Same process as the s8.
Can you point me to firmware
What's the benefit of doing this
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Can you point me to firmware
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/stock-recovery-odin-recovery-software-t3671615
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What's the benefit of doing this
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No bloat from carrier, no boot sound, "stock" Samsung. You'll lose Wi-Fi calling depending on your carrier, you'll lose rcs, 256Q, and 4x4 mimo.
Overall I found the tmobile firmware better with just disabling the bloat through adhell.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/stock-recovery-odin-recovery-software-t3671615
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No bloat from carrier, no boot sound, "stock" Samsung. You'll lose Wi-Fi calling depending on your carrier, you'll lose rcs, 256Q, and 4x4 mimo.
Overall I found the tmobile firmware better with just disabling the bloat through adhell.
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For me that's too much to lose.
@all I appreciate the responses. I'm gonna try it I'm about an hour and report my experience.
I can't find much T-mo bloatware on mine. What else besides T-mobile, T-mo TV, visual voice mail and device unlock is there? I think carrier IQ is gone for good, anything else?
Will I trip Knox if I flash the unlocked firmware on my T-Mobile? or will anything change in the download menu showing unofficial status?
it will not trip knox and its reversible if you don't like the unlocked firmware. I went back t mobile firmware and used bk disabler to disable the bloat and crap running in the background. all in all you'll have about an extra GB taken up on internal storage which isn't much on a 64 GB device IMO.
With unlocked tmobile N8, if I flash unlocked fw, then device should work on Verizon?
hello - i also have this question. (sorry noob here).
I got my tmobile note 8 unlocked by paying off the the pending amount and followed the Tmobile's device unlock procedure. But even after that the phone did not work with Verizon's network.
Reading BlueFox721's post for carrier switching (link)
Is my understanding right that, first I have to follow the Carrier Switching procedure and then I can choose between 2 options
(opt 1) flash a specific carrier FW or
(opt 2) i can choose to flash the phone with the unlocked firmware.
Am i also right that flashing the phone with a carrier specifc FW provides some advantages that are specific to that carrier's network setup (features such as wifi calling, 4x4 mimo) and that also adds some of the bloatware from that carrier.
appreciate your help in advance.
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hello - i also have this question. (sorry noob here).
I got my tmobile note 8 unlocked by paying off the the pending amount and followed the Tmobile's device unlock procedure. But even after that the phone did not work with Verizon's network.
Reading BlueFox721's post for carrier switching (link)
Is my understanding right that, first I have to follow the Carrier Switching procedure and then I can choose between 2 options
(opt 1) flash a specific carrier FW or
(opt 2) i can choose to flash the phone with the unlocked firmware.
Am i also right that flashing the phone with a carrier specifc FW provides some advantages that are specific to that carrier's network setup (features such as wifi calling, 4x4 mimo) and that also adds some of the bloatware from that carrier.
appreciate your help in advance.
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Yes
Dumb question. If the device is carrier locked, say to tmobile, will flashing unlocked firmware on it unlock it as well? or is it based on imei?
Nope, unlocked FW won't sim unlock the phone. And if you want to use Tmobile's unlock app you need to use it with Tmobile stock FW.
Doesn't unlock firmware support 256 qam and 4x4 mimo? It has band 46
It would be helpful to know if it is possible to root and install twrp on the latest firmware (sept 1st security update - pie) or if something changed to make the method described here incompatible. I have a 950F exynos with vietnam csc. I rooted both my Note 2 and Note 4, so i have some experience with rooting.
I am ready to root now as i want to install mods to improve the camera, but don't want to face a nightmare of a boot loop and ending up having to reinstall everything and still have no root, no twrp, or a bricked phone. I posted on the root thread but it seems dead. Can anyone with similar firmware who has recently rooted successfully shed light on the status of the root method? I'm on N950XXXS7DSHC. Thanks!
I have no problems at all with mine. N950F (Same as yours) converted to T-Mobile US N950U basically. While still having unlocked sim (Unlocked for any carrier), No bloatware and I did not do any camera mods. I have hads every note from the Note 3 to Note 9. So i have no issues with the stock camera. Only i changed was my CSC so i can get video calling, Caller ID etc. Still stock firmware 9.0, Don't care about Spay (Use google pay if i had to) and that's pretty much it. If you do root good luck.
Thanks for the response. Did you first root on the update i mentioned? In the root thread i read comments from people trying to root the first time after recent updates who got problems, boot loops. My question is to know if these updates change the root situation. When did you root your phone?
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I have no problems at all with mine. N950F (Same as yours) converted to T-Mobile US N950U basically. While still having unlocked sim (Unlocked for any carrier), No bloatware and I did not do any camera mods. I have hads every note from the Note 3 to Note 9. So i have no issues with the stock camera. Only i changed was my CSC so i can get video calling, Caller ID etc. Still stock firmware 9.0, Don't care about Spay (Use google pay if i had to) and that's pretty much it. If you do root good luck.
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How did you change your phone from a N950F to a N950U?
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How did you change your phone from a N950F to a N950U?
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I am wondering the same thing. Isn't the N950U have a snapdragon SoC?
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I am wondering the same thing. Isn't the N950U have a snapdragon
Yes it does, I had a S8 that was a U1 and It was snapdragon. And from what I've read the software isn't interchangeable.
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SnowFuhrer said:
I am wondering the same thing. Isn't the N950U have a snapdragon
Yes it does, I had a S8 that was a U1 and It was snapdragon. And from what I've read the software isn't interchangeable.
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Yeh its not interchangeable. They may look the same, but software wise, they are 2 very different phones.
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Sorry for the late response guys. I did not convert my phone from a n950f to n950u. It still is a n950f exynos version not the Snapdragon one. only thing I have in the phone that is modified and I guess I'm the one reason I rooted the phone is so I can have the T-Mobile firmware on there cause I use MetroPCS (T-Mobile mvno). I still have two dual SIM function and I still have the international unlocked version compared to the US version where you have to get it unlocked or you have to pay to unlock or whichever. If that explains it.
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"if I didn't root or modified a phone I wouldn't be able to get it to work on MetroPCS or T-Mobile hundred percent correctly like I wanted it to. I could of left it how it came (stock) but I had to in a way root it to get past certain things anyways. And at the end of the day I don't mind a rooted or modified phone.
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Sorry for the late response guys. I did not convert my phone from a n950f to n950u. It still is a n950f exynos version not the Snapdragon one. only thing I have in the phone that is modified and I guess I'm the one reason I rooted the phone is so I can have the T-Mobile firmware on there cause I use MetroPCS (T-Mobile mvno). I still have two dual SIM function and I still have the international unlocked version compared to the US version where you have to get it unlocked or you have to pay to unlock or whichever. If that explains it.
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"if I didn't root or modified a phone I wouldn't be able to get it to work on MetroPCS or T-Mobile hundred percent correctly like I wanted it to. I could of left it how it came (stock) but I had to in a way root it to get past certain things anyways. And at the end of the day I don't mind a rooted or modified phone.
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The question I have is how did you do this? Also I am on cricket which is a at&t mvno and I want to be on there firmware, mine says that it is from uae and everything even Bixby is in European so weather is spoken in C° not F°. There are other stuff that irritates me.
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I changed the CSC to T-Mobile. So I can have things like video calling (Kinda buggy sometimes), VoLTE (Which works just like a Metro phone (HD sometimes HD+), And my boot logo is T-Mo. Why do you wanna be on there firmware? You have to search up the CSC for AT&T so you turn your UAE phone into a US in a way. Why don't you just go into the weather app or bixby and switch to Fahrenheit (You know you can do that)
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I changed the CSC to T-Mobile. So I can have things like video calling (Kinda buggy sometimes), VoLTE (Which works just like a Metro phone (HD sometimes HD+), And my boot logo is T-Mo. Why do you wanna be on there firmware? You have to search up the CSC for AT&T so you turn your UAE phone into a US in a way. Why don't you just go into the weather app or bixby and switch to Fahrenheit (You know you can do that)
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I have tried to switch the Bixby alarm briefing to fearinhight and can't find where to do it.
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I changed the CSC to T-Mobile. So I can have things like video calling (Kinda buggy sometimes), VoLTE (Which works just like a Metro phone (HD sometimes HD+), And my boot logo is T-Mo. Why do you wanna be on there firmware? You have to search up the CSC for AT&T so you turn your UAE phone into a US in a way. Why don't you just go into the weather app or bixby and switch to Fahrenheit (You know you can do that)
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Please excuse my persistence or lack of understanding but I'm not clear on your answer to the question I raised originally. You say your phone is the same as mine but not explicitly that you rooted after updating to the same firmware I'm running (N950XXXS7DSHC). I do know it was possible to root from earlier firmwares. If I hadn't updated and read anecdotal reports of serious problems trying to do it from the current firmware, I would have rooted my phone right away.
I know also that people make mistakes in rooting frequently, so reports of problems are not evidence that the root method doesn't work. Even with serious problems, there are often workarounds. The problem is the Dr. Ketan root thread seems inactive, so the last comments there all report problems that weren't answered, nor was my own question that I also posted there. I would just like confirmation from anyone who has rooted after updating to the current firmware. Did you root your phone on N950XXXS7DSHC? Sorry again if you thought you answered that.
Good question. Sorry
@Dumbo53 I was also looking for advice about this, but since no one seemed to really be giving a clear answer, I went with this. It's basically stock without all the issues of a custom ROM, while still having root. I wasn't willing to risk updating and not being able to root on the latest, so this was a good compromise.
is there a root method for my device? Like the title describes, this is the model of my phone and yes the OEM unlock option is available. If one of you lovely people could point me in the right direction please, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
FinassaR said:
is there a root method for my device? Like the title describes, this is the model of my phone and yes the OEM unlock option is available. If one of you lovely people could point me in the right direction please, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
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Use the same method all the other s10+ users use lmao..
I mean all you need really is patched firmware then flash in ODIN.
If you want to get adventurous you could try the closest models twrp.img but if it blows up then it's not my fault.
Theres also twrp threads and multiple twrp groups on telegram that you're probably better suited to get your help there.
elliwigy said:
Use the same method all the other s10+ users use lmao..
I mean all you need really is patched firmware then flash in ODIN.
If you want to get adventurous you could try the closest models twrp.img but if it blows up then it's not my fault.
Theres also twrp threads and multiple twrp groups on telegram that you're probably better suited to get your help there.
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Thanks for your response. Unfortunately there is very little in the means of guides you my device and another unfortunate problem out of all the builds with unlocked bootloaders mine is the only one twrp doesn't have available as far as recovery goes.
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FinassaR said:
Thanks for your response. Unfortunately there is very little in the means of guides you my device and another unfortunate problem out of all the builds with unlocked bootloaders mine is the only one twrp doesn't have available as far as recovery goes.
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thats where ur wrong lol.. join mentalmusos tgram group.. he has custom kernel and twrp for g977p specifically
i built twrp for g977p Q update if anyones interested
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i built twrp for g977p Q update if anyones interested
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Oo Yes please. Do you have a download link somewhere?
I'm guessing the process would be to update to stock Q first and then OEM unlock, flash twrp, etc?
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Oo Yes please. Do you have a download link somewhere?
I'm guessing the process would be to update to stock Q first and then OEM unlock, flash twrp, etc?
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Hit me up on telegram
Is there any other sprint phones out that have custom development out. I miss rooting and can't find one. I'm about to switch carries, been w sprint for 10yrs. What's the best service provider that has custom development for rooting.
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FinassaR said:
is there a root method for my device? Like the title describes, this is the model of my phone and yes the OEM unlock option is available. If one of you lovely people could point me in the right direction please, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
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Hey op could you post a link for the correct phone for the sprint 5g, I'm assuming it needs to be unlocked. I just can't find anything on rooting sprint phones anymore. I'm considering switching carriers. What the best carrier for rooted custom development for phones?
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elliwigy said:
Hit me up on telegram
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I'd love to hit you up on telegram, your considered a master on these forums. What's the best phone available for sprint with custom development? I uauallly choose a phone for that reason but I got the sprint gs10 and the bootloader is locked. Thanks for your reply. I'm even considering switching carriers since sprint sucks in PA. Which carrier has best custom development and what phone? Like the one plus or something?
Alakazamm said:
Is there any other sprint phones out that have custom development out. I miss rooting and can't find one. I'm about to switch carries, been w sprint for 10yrs. What's the best service provider that has custom development for rooting.
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Hey op could you post a link for the correct phone for the sprint 5g, I'm assuming it needs to be unlocked. I just can't find anything on rooting sprint phones anymore. I'm considering switching carriers. What the best carrier for rooted custom development for phones?
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I'd love to hit you up on telegram, your considered a master on these forums. What's the best phone available for sprint with custom development? I uauallly choose a phone for that reason but I got the sprint gs10 and the bootloader is locked. Thanks for your reply. I'm even considering switching carriers since sprint sucks in PA. Which carrier has best custom development and what phone? Like the one plus or something?
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i have no idea.. it doesnt really matter since all the same phones are typically locked on other carriers.. i.e. u cant get a unlocked g975u on sprint or any other carrier..
i also have no idea what the "best carrier" would be for you..
All Great Minds,
Sorry for posting a question unrelated to rooting here, but I assume those who can root this phone would know something about its hardware well.
I was so excited to learn SM-G977P's bootloader can be unlocked until I realized Sprint is a CDMA company. My carrier is T-Mobile, which is based on GSM. Then I came across several guys on eBay selling this model and claiming it would work with T-Mobile/AT&T.
When a phone is built for a CDMA company like Sprint, how does it even work with a GSM network like AT&T or T-Mobile, even if it is carrier unlocked? Unless of course the hardware on this phone supports both technologies. Can someone please confirm if this is a dual band phone?
Secondly, if the hardware to support GSM is there, after it is unlocked from Sprint, do I have to flash a new ROM for T-Mobile in order to get on their GSM network?
Thank you
luckysoul777 said:
All Great Minds,
Sorry for posting a question unrelated to rooting here, but I assume those who can root this phone would know something about its hardware well.
I was so excited to learn SM-G977P's bootloader can be unlocked until I realized Sprint is a CDMA company. My carrier is T-Mobile, which is based on GSM. Then I came across several guys on eBay selling this model and claiming it would work with T-Mobile/AT&T.
When a phone is built for a CDMA company like Sprint, how does it even work with a GSM network like AT&T or T-Mobile, even if it is carrier unlocked? Unless of course the hardware on this phone supports both technologies. Can someone please confirm if this is a dual band phone?
Secondly, if the hardware to support GSM is there, after it is unlocked from Sprint, do I have to flash a new ROM for T-Mobile in order to get on their GSM network?
Thank you
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dont spam same question in multiple threads please