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Downgrade after OTA update?

I have a verizon moto x Dev edition with unlocked bootloader. Is there a way to downgrade from the ota update?
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I couldn't find one for my us cellular moto x. That's why unlocked it so I could gain root.
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My phone is unlocked and still can't downgrade so I can gain root...
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sporty377 said:
My phone is unlocked and still can't downgrade so I can gain root...
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you can't downgrade, update does not let you go backwards. However if you have a Dev edition and its unlocked you can root it very easily. Fastboot TWRP to it. Then boot into TWRP and flashed SuperSu 1.65 *.zip. Just run a search on Google and you'll find a link to SuperSU the *.zip you need
Edit: here is the thread for SuperSU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053

will2live said:
you can't downgrade, update does not let you go backwards. However if you have a Dev edition and its unlocked you can root it very easily. Fastboot TWRP to it. Then boot into TWRP and flashed SuperSu 1.65 *.zip. Just run a search on Google and you'll find a link to SuperSU the *.zip you need
Edit: here is the thread for SuperSU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
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just reading and curious--with an unlocked BL you can't use the fxz file to flash to an older version? couldn't you first flash the old boot loader and then try the fxz file though rsdlite. if that doesn't work couldn't you just flash all of the images separately?

mohlsen8 said:
just reading and curious--with an unlocked BL you can't use the fxz file to flash to an older version? couldn't you first flash the old boot loader and then try the fxz file though rsdlite. if that doesn't work couldn't you just flash all of the images separately?
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tried that....didn't work....I just flashed custom recovery and supersu did the rest

will2live said:
you can't downgrade, update does not let you go backwards. However if you have a Dev edition and its unlocked you can root it very easily. Fastboot TWRP to it. Then boot into TWRP and flashed SuperSu 1.65 *.zip. Just run a search on Google and you'll find a link to SuperSU the *.zip you need
Edit: here is the thread for SuperSU
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
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thanks....worked like a charm.....

mohlsen8 said:
just reading and curious--with an unlocked BL you can't use the fxz file to flash to an older version? couldn't you first flash the old boot loader and then try the fxz file though rsdlite. if that doesn't work couldn't you just flash all of the images separately?
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Nope not even a unlocked Dev edition can go fully backwards. Once bootloader is updated it will not pass the checks when flashing trying to go back. I know because I just brain farted the other day flashing my unlocked HD i was selling and tried flashing with the wrong file. However depending on what needs to be flashed you can in some cases flash a specific partition from older an older software build like i did to restore my botched job on the HD.
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sporty377 said:
thanks....worked like a charm.....
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No prob. The joy of owning unlocked version will make it easy like that all the time to get root moving forward

will2live said:
Nope not even a unlocked Dev edition can go fully backwards. Once bootloader is updated it will not pass the checks when flashing trying to go back. I know because I just brain farted the other day flashing my unlocked HD i was selling and tried flashing with the wrong file. However depending on what needs to be flashed you can in some cases flash a specific partition from older an older software build like i did to restore my botched job on the HD.
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No prob. The joy of owning unlocked version will make it easy like that all the time to get root moving forward
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very interesting. can you flash back and forth between the old/new kernel? i'm assuming the system is yes.

mohlsen8 said:
very interesting. can you flash back and forth between the old/new kernel? i'm assuming the system is yes.
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On my HD i did, and I know the X you can as well currently. Whether that holds true moving forward once 4.3 hits is a different story. In my case messing aroudn its alwasy been the same Android version when flashing something older.
As for the X depending on how you go about updating the X before the full fastboot was posted yesterday if you wanted root you did in fact need to use the old (original stock) kernel to fastboot over the recovery once the OTA was installed.

Stock recovery

Hi,
Does anyone know where I can find the stock recovery for the Sprint Moto X? I have TWRP right now and I want to prepare for the Kit Kat update.
Its my understanding that I will need to fastboot flash the stock recovery to take the update. I don't have much faith that a flashable 4.4 rom will happen anytime soon.
Any help would be appreciated.
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No one?
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Well, you could consider visiting -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost/list.php See if there is a copy of the ROM your phone is currently on... If so, download it and unzip it.
And since you have TWRP installed, I'm going to say you've unlocked your bootloader, and likely rooted.. That also might impact the install of 4.4. Did you remove any bloat, mess with system files, or freeze any apps with something like Titanium Backup? That too can impact the install of 4.4.
If you're interested take a look at -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536735

KidJoe said:
Well, you could consider visiting -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost/list.php See if there is a copy of the ROM your phone is currently on... If so, download it and unzip it.
And since you have TWRP installed, I'm going to say you've unlocked your bootloader, and likely rooted.. That also might impact the install of 4.4. Did you remove any bloat, mess with system files, or freeze any apps with something like Titanium Backup? That too can impact the install of 4.4.
If you're interested take a look at -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536735
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Is the link with the sbf files for consumer devices only? I have a dev edition on its way and thought I read if you flash the non dev sbf you will also install security stuff for non dev edition devices you don't want. Thanks in advance!

KidJoe said:
Well, you could consider visiting -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost/list.php See if there is a copy of the ROM your phone is currently on... If so, download it and unzip it.
And since you have TWRP installed, I'm going to say you've unlocked your bootloader, and likely rooted.. That also might impact the install of 4.4. Did you remove any bloat, mess with system files, or freeze any apps with something like Titanium Backup? That too can impact the install of 4.4.
If you're interested take a look at -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2536735
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I did uninstall some apps, but not much. My plan was to reinstall the factory recovery, then factory reset before accepting the ota.
This being my first Moto device, I'm not really familiar with all this .sbf stuff. Are you saying the stock recovery would be part of it?
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MichaelMcEntire said:
I did uninstall some apps, but not much. My plan was to reinstall the factory recovery, then factory reset before accepting the ota.
This being my first Moto device, I'm not really familiar with all this .sbf stuff. Are you saying the stock recovery would be part of it?
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The stick recovery can be found in the sbf zips
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Travisdroidx2 said:
Is the link with the sbf files for consumer devices only? I have a dev edition on its way and thought I read if you flash the non dev sbf you will also install security stuff for non dev edition devices you don't want. Thanks in advance!
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There was talk/speculation that when flashing the Dev edition with "non-dev" SDF/FXZ files you'd revert to a "consumer"/Locked device. I am not aware of that being confirmed as 100% true.
When I first got my Dev X, I rooted with RockMyMoto and ran for a week or so before unlocking the bootloader. At the time unlocking the boot loader voided the warranty and I wanted to make sure there were no issues before voiding the warranty. To prep for Kit Kat, I did flash it back using the only 4.2.2 SBF out there, that was for the "consumer" devices. It didn't hurt. I was still able to unlock my boot loader.
At this point, Moto does have the KK dev edition SBFs available for request on their web site if you don't trust using other SBF's. But they do appear to be the same as the "non-dev" sbf files.
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MichaelMcEntire said:
I did uninstall some apps, but not much. My plan was to reinstall the factory recovery, then factory reset before accepting the ota.
This being my first Moto device, I'm not really familiar with all this .sbf stuff. Are you saying the stock recovery would be part of it?
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Factory reset will not restore any apps you removed from the phone (i.e. if you deleted the APKs).
SBF and FXZ files are firmware files for Moto. RSDLite is the tool to fully flash an SBF or FXZ file.
The thread I linked earlier (said if you are interested... read...) has several options to return to stock, and explains options for using RSDLite to flash a full SBF/FXZ, as well as mfastboot to flash only parts of the ROM file, which will get you back to stock.
Most of the Moto updates perform checks for files, and specific versions of files before installing. If they don't match stock, or files it expects to be there are missing, the OTA wont install, or get the phone stuck in a boot loop.

Rogers Moto X- HOW CAN I ROOT or UPDATE?

Hey so im pretty new to flashing/rooting as well as new to the moto x (Got it today!). I've done some reading and tried the Pwnmymoto and Motoroot apk's and they both did not install, so im assuming my moto x has taken the OTA updates (i bought it second hand so i didnt know). I am just wondering if theres a way I can root it at this point?? I tried the Root script method using cydia impactor and Telnet kept failing. SO I then was looking at just flashing CWM via fastboot and then installing superuser zip from there as well as flashing a rom. Can anyone tell me if that's safe after the OTA or if theres another way to root? Any help will be mich appreciated as I am really overwhelmed!

I was in the same boat you were but apparently the Rogers update is "coming soon". However if you're impatient like me follow these steps:
1. Unlock your boot loader from Motorola
2. Download rsdlite
3. Download mfastboot
4. Download the sbf for T-Mobile 4.4 retail
5. Download the sbf for the Brasil 4.4 retail
6. Download cwmrecovery
7. Download original Moto boot image
Seems like a lot but here's what you need to do after you have all that stuff assuming you have a windows PC.
1. After the boot loader is unlocked install the custom recovery (I use cwm) via fastboot
fastboot flash recovery cwm.file.name
2. Search the forums for how to flash moto software using rsdlite (don't have the links since I'm on my phone) and flash the T-Mobile files AFTER modifying the XML file like in the instructions.
3. Search my posts and find how to flash the Rogers radio using the Brasil radio files (extract them from the zip)
4. After unlocking the bootloader it'll leave you with a nasty boot image, flash the boot image from the original moto (again search the forums) and it'll go away.
Then you'll have a Moto X on Rogers that has Kit Kat and LTE band 7 working and gets all its updates straight from Motorola! Hope that helps!
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After unlocking your bootloader then you can flash cwm and install supersu via the install zip feature
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No no no.
Look for a thread in General subforum. Rogers root. Very simple. Very easy.
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I did just that and it worked thanks a lot. Anyone reccomend any decent KitKat Roms that retain moto x features?
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There are no roms nor are there any reasons for them. Root install xposed, install gravity box. Done. This is not a flashaholics phone.

I'd never flash a custom rom on this phone....no reason to with xposed, as said above.
When we stop getting updates, then maybe. Maybe. My n7 is still on 4.2.2. Yes....I am cured of my flashaholism.
Flashaholics should not get the Moto x for sure. Lol
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agree with all the above.
but perhaps OP could use more info on Xposed and Gravity Box?

Request stock rogers rogers g flex rom

Hi, just wondering if someone could be kind enough to upload a g flex rogers canada rom doesnt matter if its jb or kitkat. I lost my backup when i was trying to return to stock.
Thanks

nooganator said:
Hi, just wondering if someone could be kind enough to upload a g flex rogers canada rom doesnt matter if its jb or kitkat. I lost my backup when i was trying to return to stock.
Thanks
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http://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=FW545495432109876543213/D950G10a_00.kdz
That's for 4.4.2, which I can't find a root method for, without downgrading back to 4.2.2. Do you know of a way?
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Or even a way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. I have rooted many Androids, first time stumped

im running 4.2.2 atm, I was hoping someone would post a nandroid backup of just the stock rooted rom so I can try to flash it in Twrp

Why not easily root with Towelroot or ioroot? It works on 4.2.2. Can you give me link to 4.2.2? All you have to do is down load the app lg phone from, it will give you a link to the rom. How do you flash rom with out being rooted?
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You could take update and use app keep root. Then you would be rooted on 4.4.2. I bought phone already on 4.4.2, not knowing had to downgrade to root. Have method, but for some reason the LG kdz compiler crashes on my computer. If I could flash 4.2.2 then root, I would be good
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Actually if someone posted a rogers 4.4.2 rooted, could I flash that using lg flash tool, then would I also be rooted on 4.4.2

Root can be achieved on either 4.2.2 or on 4.4.2 with towelroot. Don't have to downgrade. Just root with towel root.
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Every time I update from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 I just use towel root to root my flex on KitKat. I don't see what the confusion is or why you are trying to downgrade if all you want is to obtain root KitKat. Towel root will root your flex on KitKat.

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Root can be achieved on either 4.2.2 or on 4.4.2 with towelroot. Don't have to downgrade. Just root with towel root.
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Every time I update from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 I just use towel root to root my flex on KitKat. I don't see what the confusion is or why you are trying to downgrade if all you want is to obtain root KitKat. Towel root will root your flex on KitKat.
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On rogers g flex I have tried many times, it doesn't work on 4.4.2 other does stump root,abd ioroot

See the confusion. You must be using a t mobile flex or something

BrownDog99 said:
See the confusion. You must be using a t mobile flex or something
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I'm using a T-Mobile G Flex and have no problems rooting using towelroot.
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henslo said:
I'm using a T-Mobile G Flex and have no problems rooting using towelroot.
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Ya Towelroot. Ioroot, and probably stump work for t-mobile, but not At&t, Verizon, or rogers, while on 4.4.2. Many threads talk about this

BrownDog99 said:
Ya Towelroot. Ioroot, and probably stump work for t-mobile, but not At&t, Verizon, or rogers, while on 4.4.2. Many threads talk about this
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To be fair it's mainly you talking about it not working. A lot of other people were doing towelroot works for them on att. Not sure why stump isn't working the thread even says out should work on all devices from 2012-now.
At any rate I'll try to make that zip for you tomorrow if you can do something for me. Please report all these non development threads that are posted in the development section to get them moved. It's cluttering it up here. I would but I'm going i bed right now after i get your kdz downloading.

Have you tried framaroot or saferoot

Hi all,
New to the forum, made an account because I wanted to let you guys know what worked for me:
I've had my flex since November 2014, when I bought it to replace my g3 after dismally bricked while trying to boost the volume.
I just recently managed to muster up the courage to try to root my flex, and had a really hard time finding a root method that worked.
My flex is running 4.4.2, I'm with rogers, and if I'm not mistaken, my software version was something along the lines of D950G20b.
Towelroot said it was an unsupported device, as did stump root, even after trying to force it.
I finally managed to get root access using the root method for the g flex 2 from highonandroid. Unfortunately I cannot paste a direct link, but it can be found very easily by searching for the
following on google: highonandroid root lg g flex 2
I did have one hiccup during the root, after entering the step 11 after pasting the second command, where the indicator jumped to the next line but didn't move. I was able to get it to work
anyways by hitting Ctrl + c and then entering the two commands from step 11 again.
turned my phone off by holding the power button down for a few seconds, rebooted it, and voila, root access, verified by installing titanium backup.
I will be trying to install cwm in a few minutes via the "freedom flex" app found on the play store.
Hope this is at least a bit helpful to somebody!

How do I upgrade my rooted XT1056 to 4.4.4?

Hi,
I've been on 4.4.2 on my Sprint Moto X for quite a while now.
I'm rooted and unlocked with a custom recovery.
I've been holding off on the 4.4.4 update but recently it started nagging me to update.
I read that it has a lot of bugfixes so I figured why now.
I hit install update but it can't because of the custom recovery.
What is the process of upgrading to 4.4.4 if I'm on a custom recovery?
I searched for a tutorial but couldn't find one.
If someone could post a link that would be really helpful.
Thanks

You have 3 choices.
1. Flash stock recovery only, and as long as you've changed nothing else in the system, you should be able to take the ota.
2. Use fastboot/mfastboot and flash 4.4.4...if the sbf files are out.
3. Use RSDLite and flash 4.4.4...again, if the files are out.
This guide, under returning to stock covers all this. ☺
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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As far as this site goes, 4.4.4 Sbf isn't out yet.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
Not sure if there are other sources.
If not, option 1 is your only choice right now.