Switching to Tmo - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5

So I want to get the T-Mobile version so I can get unlocked bootloader and root. The only problem is how do I switch if I have a two year contract on this phone I have now? Also does the AT&T version sell for the same as the T-Mobile? So after I buy the T-Mobile do I have to unlock the Sim and how do I use it with AT&T? Thank you. Sorry for being new to this.

gainstatom said:
So I want to get the T-Mobile version so I can get unlocked bootloader and root. The only problem is how do I switch if I have a two year contract on this phone I have now? Also does the AT&T version sell for the same as the T-Mobile? So after I buy the T-Mobile do I have to unlock the Sim and how do I use it with AT&T? Thank you. Sorry for being new to this.
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The average going rate for an AT&T GS5 is roughly $550. Once you sell it, keep your SIM card and place it in the T-mobile version and it should work without issue. You may have to SIM Unlock, but I'm not positive.

slimc84 said:
The average going rate for an AT&T GS5 is roughly $550. Once you sell it, keep your SIM card and place it in the T-mobile version and it should work without issue. You may have to SIM Unlock, but I'm not positive.
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i was checking on amazon, and it seems that you can't buy the tmobile version on amazon. Or does it have a different name? Many unlocked ones but i dont know which one is right

gainstatom said:
So I want to get the T-Mobile version so I can get unlocked bootloader and root. The only problem is how do I switch if I have a two year contract on this phone I have now? Also does the AT&T version sell for the same as the T-Mobile? So after I buy the T-Mobile do I have to unlock the Sim and how do I use it with AT&T? Thank you. Sorry for being new to this.
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I'm trying to do this also.
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If your in a two year contract with AT&T, and you are past the remorse period, you will have to pay full price for a T-mobile phone and put your AT&T SIM into the T-Mobile phone, SIM unlock it (buy a code online), and manually input the correct APN. You will have to sell your AT&T S5 on your own. Do a little research, see what they are going for, and list yours at a comparable price. It's doubtful you will get as much for your AT&T S5 as you will have to pay for the T-mobile S5. There's already a couple of threads about using a T-mobile phone on AT&T's network that can provide more information.

I'm trying to do this also.

I did this, I sold my ATT S5 on Swappa for around 550.00 and then bought a Mint condition TMO S5 for 560.00 on Swappa also, then I paid around 30.00 to get an unlock code. NO REGRETS! ... I have root and TWRP recovery on it and I'm running a international S5 ROM and its awesome!.. I just have to input my APN If I flash a new ROM.

Is there anything that doesn't work, or doesn't work as well compared to the AT&T model? Does LTE, SMS, and other core features work the same?

I'm an elite customer at Best Buy, I'm going to take my att s5 back and get a brand new s5 from Tmobile. There is tons of information in the t-mobile s5 forums for those of you who are curious..
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I'm having a lot of issues with keeping a signal for data. Calls and texts are fine but data keeps going out. It'll show lte at the top but nothing is going on there. I may need to reflash a modem or something?
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I am using TMobile S5 on ATT network, I have no data issues at all, the speed is fine, I wouldn't say it is faster than the ATT model, but it is faster than my Xperia z ultra which has not LTE.
You may have some initial data drop problems, such as poor upload speed, message app like WhatsApp wouldn't connect, but after few reboots and 2-3 days of use on the ATT network, the phone stabilized, everything works fine, make sure you edit the APN and put the correct info.
I personally tested it with my ATT HTC m8 in the San Francisco area, the results are comparable, most of the time if I get 20mbps on the M8 in the speed test app, I would get 17mbps on the S5, in the poor reception area, if I get 7mbps on the M8, I would get about the same on the S5, real world usages you can't feel the differences. Downloading big Apps like 10mb above, I can feet the S5 is a tiny bit slower than the M8. It could be the difference between S5 and M8 in general, I hope that helps.

I'll post my apn settings if you don't mind comparing to yours. I can't get the connection to hold so speed hasn't even become a factor yet. I have the att variant as well and it has no problems. I'm thinking it's the software on the phone because it's acting unstable in general now. Trying to download a rom to try to correct it
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I'll post my apn settings if you don't mind comparing to yours. I can't get the connection to hold so speed hasn't even become a factor yet. I have the att variant as well and it has no problems. I'm thinking it's the software on the phone because it's acting unstable in general now. Trying to download a rom to try to correct it
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Try pta instead of phone, LTE you use pta, hspa you use Phone.
Under network mode, choose LTE/WCDMA/GSM auto connect.

I will add that and see how it goes over the next few hours. I flashed an international rom and wifi is at least better now
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Looks like either flashing a rom helped or pta did. Either way I'm much better now it seems
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cjranucci said:
Is there anything that doesn't work, or doesn't work as well compared to the AT&T model? Does LTE, SMS, and other core features work the same?
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I have no issues what so ever everything works 100% and Google wallet work also out of the box. I am running an international ROM right now but when I ran a TmO ROM everything worked 100%,no signal loss or data loss. LTE Speeds where the same also.
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When I placed the APN and I got a connection the first time I went into
Settings > More Networks > Mobile Networks > Network Operators.
I let the phone search and after a while it showed me ATT as an option, I selected it and it Said Registering to the network.
Don't know of this made a difference but I never got loss of data or anything like that.
I've been doing this since I got my Canadian S4 working on ATT because it didn't have a locked BL
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Thinking about taking the plunge and swapping out for tmobile S5 and unlocking. This completely blows. One of my concerns is long term support, and whether the tmobile variant will see a lot of development further down the road, as well as cyanogenmod. Thoughts?

cavsoldier19d said:
Thinking about taking the plunge and swapping out for tmobile S5 and unlocking. This completely blows. One of my concerns is long term support, and whether the tmobile variant will see a lot of development further down the road, as well as cyanogenmod. Thoughts?
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Of course it will see lots of development because you will be able to flash International ROMs (already reported as working well) as well as anything that comes out of the T-mobile community. It's hard to tell what CM will put out until it's out, but I don't see a reason you won't be able to run it. Either way, there's already way more choices with the T-mobile S5 than you will probably ever see with the AT&T S5.

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Of course it will see lots of development because you will be able to flash International ROMs (already reported as working well) as well as anything that comes out of the T-mobile community. It's hard to tell what CM will put out until it's out, but I don't see a reason you won't be able to run it. Either way, there's already way more choices with the T-mobile S5 than you will probably ever see with the AT&T S5.
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Exactly this. This is why I decided to return my ATT phone and get a tmobile one on craigslist. Hopeful for flashing a GPE rom for a bit when it's eventually released.

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Likelihood of enabling T-Mobile Bands?

I can't even get a hold of a T-Mobile Version. None of the stores will sell it to me without a plan even though I already have one with them.
I have the unlocked one right now, and edge is fking horrible. 3G/H+ but rarely. Coming from my N4, the internet is horribly slow.
teatime0315 said:
I can't even get a hold of a T-Mobile Version. None of the stores will sell it to me without a plan even though I already have one with them.
I have the unlocked one right now, and edge is fking horrible. 3G/H+ but rarely. Coming from my N4, the internet is horribly slow.
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Try online, and good luck. It's probably a RAT lock that is extremely hard to break, if it's possible at all.
teatime0315 said:
I can't even get a hold of a T-Mobile Version. None of the stores will sell it to me without a plan even though I already have one with them.
I have the unlocked one right now, and edge is fking horrible. 3G/H+ but rarely. Coming from my N4, the internet is horribly slow.
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just flash the Tmo radio and you're good to go. Make sure you have the LTE-enabled SIM too.
avplaya said:
just flash the Tmo radio and you're good to go. Make sure you have the LTE-enabled SIM too.
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Not so simple sadly...
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teatime0315 said:
I can't even get a hold of a T-Mobile Version. None of the stores will sell it to me without a plan even though I already have one with them.
I have the unlocked one right now, and edge is fking horrible. 3G/H+ but rarely. Coming from my N4, the internet is horribly slow.
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Bro, just buy the phone full price even if you have to open a new line.
Practical? Yes, because as long as you don't activate the sim that comes with phone then you won't be charged for the plan you signed up for.
Since you pair full price you are not bound to anything
If you got prepaid then off you go with the sim and postpaid already? Off you go with that sim.
It's a rather simple process bro...
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Not so simple sadly...
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Bro, just buy the phone full price even if you have to open a new line.
Practical? Yes, because as long as you don't activate the sim that comes with phone then you won't be charged for the plan you signed up for.
Since you pair full price you are not bound to anything
If you got prepaid then off you go with the sim and postpaid already? Off you go with that sim.
It's a rather simple process bro...
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What are you talking about? If you don't activate the SIM? They activate a sim when they activate service!!!!!
I would suggest and talk to a manager, explain to them what you would like, it also helps if you've been a long time customer and you have a good history with them. 95% sure they will sell you one.
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deviusdragger said:
What are you talking about? If you don't activate the SIM? They activate a sim when they activate service!!!!!
I would suggest and talk to a manager, explain to them what you would like, it also helps if you've been a long time customer and you have a good history with them. 95% sure they will sell you one.
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Its NOT true when you buy the phone full price. Don't tell me this when I have bought this phone and did 3 different exchanges with the same results.
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Becool0130 said:
Not so simple sadly...
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why not? I bought the Dev edition from HTC, rooted it, flashed trickdroid rom, flashed tmo radio, and stick my exising Tmo SIM in it. Maybe I'm not understanding your situation. You have an unlocked One from HTC, right?
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why not? I bought the Dev edition from HTC, rooted it, flashed trickdroid rom, flashed tmo radio, and stick my exising Tmo SIM in it. Maybe I'm not understanding your situation. You have an unlocked One from HTC, right?
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True you can flash the t-mobile radio with no problems. However, it will not change your results as to whether you get 3G (1700/2100) or not
Its true that the dev edition will only work for LTE (band 4) and 1900 tmobile refarmed areas for H+ or HSPA. You move out of those areas and you get E or edge just like every other dev edition. And thats a heck of ALOT of areas with E if you are not just a sitting duck roaming in your city year in and out
Bottom line, it sadly doesn't change a thing right now
Becool0130 said:
Its NOT true when you buy the phone full price. Don't tell me this when I have bought this phone and did 3 different exchanges with the same results.
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You don't have to active service when buying a phone at full pop like you had mentioned to do. There is nothing in their policy that you can't buy a phone at full price straight out without service.
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Buying unlocked T-mobile version or the AT&T version (now rootable)?

I am currently with AT&T using the Note 2. I pre-ordered the unlocked T-Mobile version at Negrielectronics because of the previously inabilitity to root the AT&T Note 3.
However, now that the AT&T Note 3 version is rootable, is it still a good idea to buy the T-Mobile version and use it on AT&T network for LTE ?
I am buying a phone off contract an at a full price. I don't want to be in any contract.
I still have time to cancel the Negrielectronics pre-order. What should be your advice? Thanks.
The dilemma is which is better: AT&T Note 3 (rootable) or Unlocked T-Mobile Note 3? ....using AT&T network.
Price is not a factor.
I'd go with with the AT&T version because their devices have priority on the network, and tmo may do the same but I don't know much about tmo. Yes people will get mad when they see that if they bought a tmo device and argue with you. Others will go with tmo just because of the unlocked bootloader. I'm pretty sure somebody will figure it out on AT&T soon enough. If they don't then that's the downside of buying an AT&T device. Bottom line is if you rely on your phone for day to day communications I personally would recommend an AT&T device because of the support they will give you. If you think your good enough to support it all on your own grab a tmo device. I probably would have done that if I had a second chance. I'm not going through the hassle of returning this one though.
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agent929 said:
I'd go with with the AT&T version because their devices have priority on the network. Others will go with tmo just because of the unlocked bootloader. I'm pretty sure somebody will figure it out on AT&T soon enough.
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I keep seeing this statement in places, but it doesn't seem like it would be legal or even worth it to do this. You pay AT&T for service, and their profit comes from the service, not the hardware. Why would they even bother to prioritize traffic based on IMEI? The average consumer wouldn't even notice. It would only noticeably impact an extremely small segment of their user base, and the extra infrastructure to punish 0.05% of their user base seems ridiculous. If there's hard proof of this practice, I'd love to see it.
If you call them and talk to a tier 3 tech they will tell you. That's how I found out.
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agent929 said:
I'd go with with the AT&T version because their devices have priority on the network. Others will go with tmo just because of the unlocked bootloader. I'm pretty sure somebody will figure it out on AT&T soon enough.
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Well I disagree. Having been an ATT customer forever they are slow to release updates and upgrades to the OS. The big thing is the Unlocked Bootloader. Thats what makes the TMO unit much better. You can us International ROM's and the developers are supporting the Int and the TMO unit, my ATT SG4 had very limited support do to working around the Locked Bootloader. With the history of the ATT SG4 being locked and the developers that were not happy I would not get the ATT if I were paying full price. I could take the upgrade at ATT and I still choose to go TMO because I love to flash.
I had the att s4 and there was a ton of support even with the MF3 build. They had safe strap. I was on MDL so I didn't need it but I helped iB4STiD a ton with helping folks on that.
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If you call them and talk to a tier 3 tech they will tell you. That's how I found out.
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Techs are often wrong and/or totally full of it in the name of getting the customer off the phone. I don't really consider this to be a reliable source. I'm also certain that if this was an official policy, it would need to be in writing somewhere. I've been through all of the terms I can find and haven't found any mention of discrimination against phones from other networks. It still doesn't make sense anyways. They should be happy for the service business, since that's where they make all their money anyways.
It's not discriminating really, its AT&T taking care of thier own before anything else. I'm sure it's an internal document so you won't see it. I'm not the only one on the forum that's mentioned that before (you can use the search function on the forums and google) and usually tier 3 knows their crap. They are very experienced techs.
Also it's not illegal to unlock your bootloader or do anything to your phone other than SIM unlock it without carrier permission.
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If you look over in the general forum you'll see a post called something like "att may have got the last laugh". You can see exactly what I mean about a tmo device there and they also talk about tmo devices are not prioritized like att devices.
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agent929 said:
It's not discriminating really, its AT&T taking care of thier own before anything else. I'm sure it's an internal document so you won't see it. I'm not the only one on the forum that's mentioned that before (you can use the search function on the forums and google) and usually tier 3 knows their crap. They are very experienced techs.
Also it's not illegal to unlock your bootloader or do anything to your phone other than SIM unlock it without carrier permission.
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I've seen it mentioned before, but as with most forums, 5% of the posters are knowledgeable, 75% are parroting something they read someplace else, and the other 20% are just trolls. It would be great to have some actual proof that this occurs. I have two Note 3s, one from AT&T and one from T-Mobile, and if I use the same sim card, the speedtests are basically the same. They're definitely both inside the typical range for my home, though I realize this is anecdotal.
It would be discrimination if I signed up for service for AT&T and brought my own phone and they failed to disclose to me that I would be getting slower service due to bringing my own hardware. I'm guessing it probably wouldn't be legal, either. At the least, it's incredibly unethical. AT&T makes the money off the service, not the phones, so their interest in taking care of their own includes every subscriber regardless of hardware. Do you think they de-prioritize iPad traffic if you didn't buy your iPad in their store? Incredibly unlikely.
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I'd go with with the AT&T version because their devices have priority on the network
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So are you saying that the LTE speed using an unlocked T-mobile phone is slower than if I use the at&t Note 3?
I never once said anything about slower speed. I'm assuming the guy a couple post up doesn't know about network prioritization. You can even do this on some home routers.
When the network is congested it will favor ATT devices over others. It will favor an ATT iPad over others. It doesn't matter where you buy it as long as it's an ATT variant of the device.
Also I'm not sure if that one guy is implying I'm trolling or not but if he is then I assume he finds his answer elsewhere. I donate way to much time and money to this place to be considered a troller, not to mention I have a degree in cyber defense. If not please disregard this message.
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Earthdog I read your profile. You should be very familiar with what I'm talking about.
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Can you still install a custom ROM only with root?
No you need to have the bootloader unlocked.
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Earthdog said:
Well I disagree. Having been an ATT customer forever they are slow to release updates and upgrades to the OS. The big thing is the Unlocked Bootloader. Thats what makes the TMO unit much better. You can us International ROM's and the developers are supporting the Int and the TMO unit, my ATT SG4 had very limited support do to working around the Locked Bootloader. With the history of the ATT SG4 being locked and the developers that were not happy I would not get the ATT if I were paying full price. I could take the upgrade at ATT and I still choose to go TMO because I love to flash.
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Your 100% right about the bootloader and software releases. I don't mind running stock so much because it serves my purpose just fine.
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I never once said anything about slower speed. I'm assuming the guy a couple post up doesn't know about network prioritization. You can even do this on some home routers.
When the network is congested it will favor ATT devices over others. It will favor an ATT iPad over others. It doesn't matter where you buy it as long as it's an ATT variant of the device.
Also I'm not sure if that one guy is implying I'm trolling or not but if he is then I assume he finds his answer elsewhere. I donate way to much time and money to this place to be considered a troller, not to mention I have a degree in cyber defense. If not please disregard this message.
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Earthbrain I read your profile. You should be very familiar with what I'm talking about.
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Just yesterday, things were simplier because there was no root cabability for the AT&T Note 3 and I was happy to just pre-order the unlocked note 3 t-mobile version from Negri. Now things just got more complex in my buying decision because of the rootable at&t note 3.
I definitely meant no disrespect or implication of trolling. :good:
I'm an engineer by trade, so you'll have to forgive my need to have logic applied to things. I'm familiar with traffic prioritization, and use it on my home network. I'm simply stating that it doesn't make sense for AT&T to do this, as the incentive is to provide more services, not sell more devices.
When you buy a unlock phone you have to consider the radio issues you will suffer.. you might have to change your modem version to a AT&T version to get better service (idk if thats possible like it was on the note 2). Yes the hardware might support different network bands but it doesn't mean if you put a T-Mobile unlock version using a AT&T sim next a AT&T version that it will work the same.
And i disagree that T-Mobile version will get more support than the AT&T version..
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I definitely meant no disrespect or implication of trolling. :good:
I'm an engineer by trade, so you'll have to forgive my need to have logic applied to things. I'm familiar with traffic prioritization, and use it on my home network. I'm simply stating that it doesn't make sense for AT&T to do this, as the incentive is to provide more services, not sell more devices.
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I TOTALLY agree with you and think it's crap and I would hope it's not true. Just after having that tech tell me something I've been reading for a while sort of confirmed my fear about that.
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It would be nice to conduct some tests during peak/congested times, using busy cell sites (high-rise buildings, freeways, etc.), and multiple locations. I'd be curious of the results.

AT&T incapable of setting up LTE data on my pure edition MotoX

I am extremely frustrated and fed up with ATT customer service on the phone and in the stores. I talked to 3 different persons and none was able to setup my phone for data neither HSPA nor LTE. The BS that I have to listen to is incredible and I am close to terminating my contract. I am pretty sure the issue is that the IMEI of my phone doesn't get recognized by the system and I asked them to change it to an ATT one but they don't do it.
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I remember having to do this when I purchased my Nexus 5; this is solved by simply "borrowing" the IMEI of one of the LTE smartphones in the showroom at the store. If there is a ATT Moto X 2014, even better. Just go to that phone's setting and take a photo of the IMEI, then go to the desk and give them that number. It will be recognized and you will be set.
No need to worry about borrowing the IMEI from another phone, it is just to look up the specs for their system. I haven't tested it myself with a Moto X though as I still have a Nexus 5 but you should have no trouble.
Found a fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just got my Pure Edition yesterday and wasn't able to get any AT&T data plan either, even after a half hour talk with customer support. Then I found a help article on the AT&T site for setting up unlocked phones. You have to set up a new access point. I can't post links, and one of the settings is a url, so I can't post that either. Google "Programming non-AT&T devices with the correct APN and MMS data settings" and hopefully it will work. If someone who can post links could post on to the article, that would be awesome!
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All we need to do is manually enter this in on the pure Edition and we'll be good? @mbonus
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All we need to do is manually enter this in on the pure Edition and we'll be good? @mbonus
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Yes, I had to do the same. It looks like the default apn nxtgenphone is for volte and doesn't always work right.
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Yes, I had to do the same. It looks like the default apn nxtgenphone is for volte and doesn't always work right.
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In my case I had to do more. I had to generate the new APN and I had to use an IMEI from an old LTE AT&T phone that I just still had. The problem was the switch to the new nanoSim in combiantion with the IMEI of my MotoX. Now everything is fine.
I'm hoping that I can take the SIM card out of my old Moto X and put it into the new 2014 moto X no strings Attached......*hoping*
Fixed.
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In my case I had to do more. I had to generate the new APN and I had to use an IMEI from an old LTE AT&T phone that I just still had. The problem was the switch to the new nanoSim in combiantion with the IMEI of my MotoX. Now everything is fine.
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I can say that I had this problem as well. Voice but no data. Added the custom APN, and that got me 4G, but no LTE. Apparently, ATT does not recognize this phone's IMEI as a LTE capable phone. Had to give them the IMEI off my HTC One M7, code it as LTE, reboot my phone twice, and then it came up as 4GLTE. Just FYI.
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I can say that I had this problem as well. Voice but no data. Added the custom APN, and that got me 4G, but no LTE. Apparently, ATT does not recognize this phone's IMEI as a LTE capable phone. Had to give them the IMEI off my HTC One M7, code it as LTE, reboot my phone twice, and then it came up as 4GLTE. Just FYI.
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That could explain why my data signal has been terrible. Sadly, I don't have a previous ATT phone.
Yep, I ended up creating a new APN and gave them my nexus 5 IMEI for LTE to connect. Not sure why the nexus 5 works since they don't sell that phone either...
Think moto needs to hand over all the IMEI for AT&Ts database... :/
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I got a friends imei and registered it. I switched back to the original APN and am getting a better signal and speeds with the nxtgenphone APN.
AT&T now aware of the problem and working on solution. Switching IMEI number is not the long term solution.
There is a case number and we should all get LTE within a few days. Unfortunately, it is the weekend so will take longer for them to approve the Pure Edition (showing as Moto Victara in AT&T system) as non LTE.
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AT&T now aware of the problem and working on solution. Switching IMEI number is not the long term solution.
There is a case number and we should all get LTE within a few days. Unfortunately, it is the weekend so will take longer for them to approve the Pure Edition (showing as Moto Victara in AT&T system) as non LTE.
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Nice! Where'd you hear this?
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I wouldn't get my hopes up on a quick resolution. When they initially opened a ticket for when I signed up for service yesterday, they told me not to worry about not having data and that they would resolve the ticket by the 30th.
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Nice! Where'd you hear this?
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I spoke with multiple tech support people until I found a knowledgeable supervisor.
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I wouldn't get my hopes up on a quick resolution. When they initially opened a ticket for when I signed up for service yesterday, they told me not to worry about not having data and that they would resolve the ticket by the 30th.
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Getting 4G is easy by manually setting APN. The hard part is getting LTE without giving them a different IMEI.
Getting 4G is easy by manually setting APN. The hard part is getting LTE without giving them a different IMEI.
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Yes, getting data was easy. Yet ATT support had no idea how to even get me data. They passed me up to tier 2 support while I was in the store with them and then told me to leave with the new phone and wait a few hours because it should fix itself. Thankfully, I found people mentioning the APN change to get the hspa+ and was able to get that temporarily as I've been with Verizon and Sprint in the past I didn't know about this offhand. My initial ticket for ATT to even get me data on my new service plan was set to be resolved in 5 days. If something as simple as that had that long of a time frame, I wouldn't count on a quick turn around for this issue.
Odd, I have not had any issues with the stock APN. I switch phones so often I can't even tell you what provisions they have me on at this point but data has worked fine on every phone I have had without changing anything on the phone or AT&T's end. I have been on a Nano sim for a long time though, I just used Sim adapters when I have non-nano slots. They set everything up on a new one for the iPhone 6 plus though, maybe its compatible?
I simply swapped the SIM from my old Moto X to my new Pure Edition Moto X on AT&T and everything works fine... Not sure why you guys are having issues.
Guys..
His issue is that ATT is using the imei from the pure edition moto x.
Since ATT doesn't really do byod (not an ATT branded device) he doesn't get lte.

Modems N910T on AT&T

Does the N910T have the same modem as the N910A?
Does anyone have the flashable zips of both modems? I want to see if using the T-Mobile modem effects the LTE speed on AT&T network.
Thanks!
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Does the N910T have the same modem as the N910A?
Does anyone have the flashable zips of both modems? I want to see if using the T-Mobile modem effects the LTE speed on AT&T network.
Thanks!
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I'd be curious about this as well. I have an unlocked TMo on AT&T - LTE worked great but now I can only get HSPA+ and AT&T claims my phone registers as a Blackberry. Very frustrating.
Mine just stayed acting funny last night. It will only get 4G which is really actually 3g. I have the AT&T version as well. It will only get 4G also now. They might have did something to my Sim, who knows.
OK o just called att and they also said I had a blackberry as my phone. The difference is I have both versions (AT&T and T-Mobile) so when I called I was using the att version. They still couldn't get lte on the att version. Wtf
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OK o just called att and they also said I had a blackberry as my phone. The difference is I have both versions (AT&T and T-Mobile) so when I called I was using the att version. They still couldn't get lte on the att version. Wtf
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How r u verifying that u are only getting 4G and not LTE?
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How r u verifying that u are only getting 4G and not LTE?
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Because it says 4g and not LTE. I'm on dynamic ROM so icons are correct. Also was only getting 2mbs download. It also said HSPA in settings under status. Also AT&T said it was a blackberry on my account which is setup different then regular LTE (there words). But don't matter I got it fixed with AY&T for now.
On top of all this I didn't just jump to conclusions. After all the problems I odined back, tried kernel, tried modem. Then add a last resort I put my son back into my AT&T note 4(yes I have both) and had ZERO data because of my account. That's what spaked the phone call to AT&T.
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Because it says 4g and not LTE. I'm on dynamic ROM so icons are correct. Also was only getting 2mbs download. It also said HSPA in settings under status. Also AT&T said it was a blackberry on my account which is setup different then regular LTE (there words). But don't matter I got it fixed with AY&T for now.
On top of all this I didn't just jump to conclusions. After all the problems I odined back, tried kernel, tried modem. Then add a last resort I put my son back into my AT&T note 4(yes I have both) and had ZERO data because of my account. That's what spaked the phone call to AT&T.
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Just wanted to make sure I was verifying the signal in the same way. I am getting LTE though. Just seemed slow. I checked the speed with the same Sim card on my note 2 and the speed was so not great. I believe AT&T is working on the network in my city though and that's why speed are show where I am.
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Yeah there having issuers here in Naples to and created a trouble ticket. I've never had really good speeds anyways even on the real AT&T version. Samsung radios dont have the strength of a iPhone which sucks really because everything else beats the iPhone except download speeds and reception. (Thoroughly tested this with a buddy that is addicted to iPhone the way I'm addicted to Samsung phones for the last few years)
I lost LTE today on both my note 4 and g3.
Can't get it back no matter what I try.
Sounds like APN issue or Sim card issue. I have a T-Mobile Note 4 on ATT and I've had LTE the whole time...no problems. I did get a new Sim because I was using a nano Sim with adapter. 2g 3g 4g works fine as well. I'm in SW Missouri and my phone shows as a note 4.
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I lost LTE today on both my note 4 and g3.
Can't get it back no matter what I try.
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Make the call.
I have the T-Mobile Variant on AT&T no issues here. I get LTE all the time. I'm still using stock rom.
I still have lte but my phone does show up as a blackberry when I login to myatt. I did not get a new sim card
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I still have lte but my phone does show up as a blackberry when I login to myatt. I did not get a new sim card
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In my experience with this if ATT has the actual IEMI of the off network device you will only get HSPA/HSPA+ at best. It does not matter what your APN settings are and this can only be fixed by providing an IEMI of a device that was sold with AT&T access from the start.
I made a mistake and provided the IEMI (at the time an unlocked MetroPCS S5) and could not get LTE. I told them that I was switching devices and provided the IEMI of my HTC One M8. After rebooting, LTE came back with good speeds again.
This is one reason why as a tinkerer I prefer AT&T over VZW. Verizon will refuse to activate a non VZW device. AT&T's official word is they will allow it but cannot guarantee speed or reliability. In my experience, however using a TMO or other GSM device with them has been fine.
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Just logged in to MyATT and mine is showing up as "Samsung SM-N910T".
All I did was insert a sim card from one of my other devices. I'm using a nano sim to micro adapter as well. It's a PIA however I have an M8 and iphone6 which are both nano devices. I'm surprised that Samsung is still using micro sim cards!
I logged in this morning and mine is now showing as 910T as well. I still have LTE.
Not to hijack the thread, but those of you using TMO's Note 4 on AT&T, is your LTE reception good?
And flashing a different carrier's modem on a device could mess up the IMEI number.
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Not to hijack the thread, but those of you using TMO's Note 4 on AT&T, is your LTE reception good?
And flashing a different carrier's modem on a device could mess up the IMEI number.
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my brother has tmobile note 4 and we use same provider here in india a wiered issue he is facing , he dsnt gets internet working though we have same apn but mine works fine ....enormous reboots and thousand time restting apn but no use...internet \works but its not sure it will work for 5 mins or 10 mins and signals go away ...and we dont have 4g where i live but whenever it connects it never show h or h+ it shows 4g ...i have tried allmost all roms ( except the ported one) but same results....
anyhelp would be highly appreciated
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Hello,
I just bought the ATT note 4 but still it is not yet on my hands.......I saw that this device has many bands but as I am using t-mobile sim I would like to enable the aws band .......as someone did in this video using a different device ,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb0iCtG4T6I
any help?
thanks
I recently got an n910T for use on AT&T and just stuck my sim card in. I get LTE, but it's slow, like around 6MB down, so more like HSPA speeds. My phone does not show a model on the AT&T website. Should I call AT&T to register my IMEI? The main problem might be that my phone wants to always stay on band 2 even when I am in a signal area with much stronger band 17 (-110dB vs -85dB). When I am at work, in a metal building with AT&T repeaters, it stays on band 17 which is all that is available, so I know it can do band 17, it just does not want to.

Is T-Mo Note 4 best option for AT&T if you want root?

So the AT&T Note 4 is locked down pretty good. Is the T-Mobile version the best version to get to use on AT&T for somebody who wants root? It looks like it has all of the HSPA and LTE bands, so it should work perfectly. Are any of the international versions better options than the T-Mobile version?
Or is T-Mobile the best one for AT&T? Thanks.
Tmo note 4 works great on AT&T. I buy all my phones from Tmo to use on AT&T.
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Tmo note 4 works great on AT&T. I buy all my phones from Tmo to use on AT&T.
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How do you buy them? Can you just walk into a T-Mobile store and buy one even with no T-Mobile account?
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I bought the phone. It was a bit of a process but easy. You have to have a service plan for them to sell you one. So I signed up for the phone and the cheapest plan they would get me. Then went home and called Tmobile customer care and paid the balance of the phone off. Then went to cellunlocker and got an unlock code. Then for the next day or so I used it on AT&T to make sure it had no problems. Then I called up Tmobile and canceled my plan with them.
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I have both AT&T and t mobile note 4. If you want root, you already know what you have to do. The only issue I have ran into is my t mobile version shows up as a blackberry on AT&T network. Took multiple calls to get LTE working correctly. They had to switch my number to a tri band (there verbage not mine) to properly get LTE, even though it still shows up as a RIM device. The fastest LTE I've had in my area is 32mbs with a iPhone next to me getting 64mbs, but also that's not comparing apples to apples (pun intended). But the iPhone also had a stronger radio inside compared to samsung.
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I have both AT&T and t mobile note 4. If you want root, you already know what you have to do. The only issue I have ran into is my t mobile version shows up as a blackberry on AT&T network. Took multiple calls to get LTE working correctly. They had to switch my number to a tri band (there verbage not mine) to properly get LTE, even though it still shows up as a RIM device. The fastest LTE I've had in my area is 32mbs with a iPhone next to me getting 64mbs, but also that's not comparing apples to apples (pun intended). But the iPhone also had a stronger radio inside compared to samsung.
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Hey Sandman7793, if you dont mind, could you please explain how exactly you got AT&T to make the changes in order for you to get LTE working on your Tmobile Note 4? I mean did you have to speak to multiple reps on the same phone call? Reason I ask is becuase I had a Tmobile Note 3 and was only getting HSPA using AT&T and when I called they gave me a hard time saying that I couldnt get LTE becuase I was using an unlocked device. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks!
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Hey Sandman7793, if you dont mind, could you please explain how exactly you got AT&T to make the changes in order for you to get LTE working on your Tmobile Note 4? I mean did you have to speak to multiple reps on the same phone call? Reason I ask is becuase I had a Tmobile Note 3 and was only getting HSPA using AT&T and when I called they gave me a hard time saying that I couldnt get LTE becuase I was using an unlocked device. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks!
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Well the trick was I bought the AT&T version of the note 4 before I bought the t-mobile one. So when I called I had my sim card in the AT&T one when I called. Lol. I have my spare note 4 in the drawer just lying around. When I called they was like, do you have a blackberry, I said no, do people actually use those anymore. Since I have my note on the next program they was like OK no problem. Then they said, is your phone for AT&T network, I said it better be because I bought it from you. Then I rebooted the phone so they could hear the AT&T boot up sound. They had me put in a new APN setting, still no LTE (on the AT&T phone at that) so they escalated the case over to someone else and changed a bunch of settings on there end. Then said maybe they had LTE issues in my area, I said nope I have a iPhone sitting next to me with full LTE. By the time I hung up, the AT&T note 4 had zero LTE and the t-mobile had full LTE, which still till this day I have no clue how that worked out. It still shows a blackberry on my account, but here was my speed earlier so it don't matter to me what the show.
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Well the trick was I bought the AT&T version of the note 4 before I bought the t-mobile one. So when I called I had my sim card in the AT&T one when I called. Lol. I have my spare note 4 in the drawer just lying around. When I called they was like, do you have a blackberry, I said no, do people actually use those anymore. Since I have my note on the next program they was like OK no problem. Then they said, is your phone for AT&T network, I said it better be because I bought it from you. Then I rebooted the phone so they could hear the AT&T boot up sound. They had me put in a new APN setting, still no LTE (on the AT&T phone at that) so they escalated the case over to someone else and changed a bunch of settings on there end. Then said maybe they had LTE issues in my area, I said nope I have a iPhone sitting next to me with full LTE. By the time I hung up, the AT&T note 4 had zero LTE and the t-mobile had full LTE, which still till this day I have no clue how that worked out. It still shows a blackberry on my account, but here was my speed earlier so it don't matter to me what the show.
Did you have a chance to test speeds in your area with both phones connected to both carriers? I am going through a dilemma right now as to which carrier I should choose to go with.
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Actually no. TMO stays on the edge network where I live. It's not even worth the hassle to use there network, at lest for me. But for the sake of argument I will grab it out of drawer tonight and do the rest after I get off work.
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Actually no. TMO stays on the edge network where I live. It's not even worth the hassle to use there network, at lest for me. But for the sake of argument I will grab it out of drawer tonight and do the rest after I get off work.
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ok fair enough. I am seeing hits and misses with speedtests on both. Hard to decide right now.
i"m using the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T and getting great performance. NO issues with anything, yet lol. Love running custom roms.
yes it is, Mine is on Tmobile( white) unlocked and it is rooted and i'm using it on ATT(sim card from work) i get full speed LTE and one of samsung best yet. other variants are not that great
T-Mobile Note 4 still shows as Blackberry
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yes it is, Mine is on Tmobile( white) unlocked and it is rooted and i'm using it on ATT(sim card from work) i get full speed LTE and one of samsung best yet. other variants are not that great
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I went to change my data plan today, finally giving up Unlimited because it was $50 cheaper to go Mobile Share route. In the process I noticed my new TM Note 4 showed up as a Blackberry 7100 and during the online plan change it wouldn't let me do it saying something about an incompatible phone. I reloaded the Sim back in my Note 2, called CS, had then change the plan and of course it now shows a "Smartphone" for my Note 2.
So, I suppose as soon as I change me SIM back to the Note 4 it'll send them the IMEI and change the phone designation back to Blackberry, thusly kicking me off LTE.
Can other enlighten me as what steps to take when/if that happens? Since it's a Note 2, not Note 4, I can't take the approach quite the same as the OP.
What to do? Anyone?
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I went to change my data plan today, finally giving up Unlimited because it was $50 cheaper to go Mobile Share route. In the process I noticed my new TM Note 4 showed up as a Blackberry 7100 and during the online plan change it wouldn't let me do it saying something about an incompatible phone. I reloaded the Sim back in my Note 2, called CS, had then change the plan and of course it now shows a "Smartphone" for my Note 2.
So, I suppose as soon as I change me SIM back to the Note 4 it'll send them the IMEI and change the phone designation back to Blackberry, thusly kicking me off LTE.
Can other enlighten me as what steps to take when/if that happens? Since it's a Note 2, not Note 4, I can't take the approach quite the same as the OP.
What to do? Anyone?
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Mine shows as a blackberry also, but after they activated tri-band on my account for my line, all is good with full service.
AT&T used to have two places to store imei. One is dynamic and shows device that is currently on their network and the other is somewhere permanently in the database and is imei used to register account. Second (permanent) one determines whether you get LTE. It was like that year ago when I parted with post paid plans. May be they changed it since. So you must make them replace the permanent db imei to get LTE. Best way to do it is to call them with valid AT&T LTE capable device imei and tell them that it's what you use now.
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My AT&T account shows a flip phone for my TMO Note 4! LOL! Everything is fine and working though so I dont care.
I run my T-Mobile Note 4 on "Cricket Wireless" which uses AT&T towers w/ a reduced cost (based on your needs of course).. Data, ect...
Very pleased & things work 100%!
I even figured out how to 'edit' build.prop per the "Root & Recovery" thread to give me official "cricket" initial confirmation readout in status upon waking phone along with AT&T tower indicators as opposed to T-Mobile's!
I bet Hotspot will not work on ATT when you use T-mobile phone.
I bet Wifi calling will not work on ATT network too.
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I bet Hotspot will not work on ATT when you use T-mobile phone.
I bet Wifi calling will not work on ATT network too.
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Hotspot works great. Actually It works even better, becuase ATT can't track the usage on a Tmobile phone so even without root or doing anything special the wifi hotspot works right out of the box.
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