Hello,
As I get a Galaxy Gear in a few days I'm wondering what possibilities there are to fiddle around with the Gear and an Windows Phone device.
What I'm wondering about:
- is it possible to create an application which is basically the same like Samsung's gear manager? (Especially for Windows Phone devices)
- Can we just interact over bluetooth with the gear from every bluetooth device which support the required protocols? (To achieve what the goal of interacting with the gear from other smartphones.)
- is it possible to create a custom rom for the gear (a null derivative?) which is especially built for Windows Phone and deeply integrates with Cortana services?
On the Windows Phone side I know it's possible to interact with external bluetooth devices. Whatsoever, most of the questions are on the gear side of this project.
If you can shine your light on this, that'd be awesome!
- good luck with no sdk available
- it should still connect as a regular Bluetooth headset
- null is just stock with a couple of extra features builtin (none of which have to do with non-touchwiz compatibility)
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I have been looking around and I have found a few other phones being able to connect to the samsung galaxy gear, but there hasn't been a complete list of phones or even links to forums to help get it to work, figured I would start a thread.
Also anyone know if the LG Optimus G Pro is capable of connecting?
Getting phones to connect with the gear is one thing. I managed to connect my gear to my nexus 5 but without gear manager there isn't much functionality.
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I dont think it'll be possible as of now
I'm using GG on my Pantech IM-A890K.
Gear Manager crashes whenever I touch "Settings" so I cannot really get notifications on my gear. Plus, native Weather / Media Control / S-voice do not work either. Except them, it works well; I can send/receive text (using TabletTalk), take a photo with native transfer service and use 3rd party app for remote control (Media Remote).
The only problem is that you still need a Samsung phone to initially get the gear ready for another non-Samsung phone. Take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517364
Well, trying to put some order on one of the most important (yet problematic) app for our Samsung Gear: GEAR MANAGER
Until now (30th Dez 2013) Samsung Gear communicates basically with Gear Manager to configure the overall settings, Samsung Gear launcher, sync settings/multimedia or to receive notifications.
Some of the most important threats (IMO) are:
"gear manager update v1.5.121601" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586480
"Unable to reply SMS-es through S-voice" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48581831
"Gear Manager Uninstalls Feedly" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48582488
As of 30th Dez 2013, Samsung Gear MK7 and Gear Manager v1.5.121601
Issues:
1) Gear Manager v1.5.121601 crashes/freezes when people press "Notifications" and then "More Notifications" (ex: to turn ON Whatsapp or other app notifications) (temporary fix: uninstall v1.5.121601 -> find & install Gear Manager_1.5.120903 apk)
2) My Samsung Gear has Null_ 16 ROM. Before Gear Manager v1.5.121601, when I tried to update my firmware through Gear, it said "no updates (as I have the latest MK7, though with Null_), now it says "your Gear has been modified".
3) S-Voice does not work to answer SMS: A) voice recognition is horrible! B) it tries to send the SMS to a complete different number!!!
Example: I live in Germany, I received an SMS from (example) +49 1 777 55 66 77. When I reply using S-VOICE, the reply fails "Unable to send SMS" as the stupid software through S-Voice replies to (example) (it is sent to 49 1 0000 777 55 66 77 --> WRONG Number!!! FIRST it ignored the "+" and SECOND it added "0000" to the number...)
4) Gear Manager uninstalls Feedly, another company´s application, and without my consent! (gReader does the trick, but nevertheless... ridiculous!)
What to improve:
1) S-Voice...voice recognition! It is so bad comparing to my Note 3´s S-Voice, that hurts!!!
2) S-Voice capabilities: first I thought that Gear´s S-Voice was just a channel from Note 3´s S-Voice, so it would be (a little) smarter, and could also do some basic web search, etc.... but it doesn´t!!! And so stupid it is...when I try to know the weather in some city that is not the one I am at (or well known like London, Paris, Madrid), it always says the weather to the city I am at! Even "New York" or "Miami" fails! (at least if I speak in German or Spanish)
3) No basic web search....(original software)
4) No basic keyboard writing (original software)
5) No basic RSS / Feedly / Google Translate (original software)
6) No photo/video sharing capabilities to common ways like E-Mail, MMS, Whatsapp, Viber, Facebook,...
7) No standard (-alone) alarm??? what??? (original software) So...if my Note 3 ran out of battery while asleep, my Gear just won´t sound any alarm, or just do alarms.... No comments.
8) No possibility to turn off the camera sound (original software. Null_ 16 ROM turns this off)
9) Auto-Internet teethering (but with On/Off option)
10) Work on every single (also non-Samsung) Android 4.x or iOS device!!!!
Please be free to add Issues: and What to improve: and, if possible, alternatives/solutions to it that do not mean "hard core" solutions like editing system files and others
Personally I have some questions:
A) with Null_ ROM, is it possible to answer Notifications (SMS/E-Mail/Whatsapp) with keyboard? (I can use the keyboard for other apps, but to the default Gear-Manager-mediated-notifications, despite Null_ ROM, I am still limited to the standard Samsung options)
B) Is there a way to take pictures, and directly send to whatsapp/E-mail? (note that I still want to manage my E-mail/Whatsapp on my phone. I just want to send the pictures and basic answer)
C) Better installable alternative to S-Voice? (with web search, more options, etc)
1) Sucks. Even clean install doesn't work for me
2) Well, that is the case, not really an issue. How can it update a rom it knows nothing about? Just like phones
3) Super annoying
4) GM removes all apps that it installs (or knows about - app store or sideload or 'sub apks'). it then reinstalls when GM is installed (except sideload for obvious reasons). Feedly developers included something in newer versions to make it interact with GM hence it gets uninstalled
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8) It's a legal thing (same as on phones)
9) I'd rather wifi, and instead of Bluetooth tethering, just access internet using current protocol via the app (similar to google glass)
10) Pebble manages to work fine, no reason this watch needs to use touchwiz
I'd like to hope that next version of watch fixes many things and opens up to other devices. This is first gen after all
Really need a SKD!!! That way we won't need to rely on Samsung to make all the changes that we want - just look at everything you can do on the very simple Pebble
A) You need tablet talk. Have a search for it and sms - plenty of discussion here
B) No - only autotransfer (setting in app on phone) or share to evernote
C) There is a thread here about using autoremote (and I think google now?). Requires a bit of setting up though
Brendo: thanks, I´ll look into it!
About my B) question "Is there a way to take pictures, and directly send to whatsapp/E-mail?", I partially solved that. If you install a mail client on Gear (I installed K9, as it is very light), when you take a picture, you can directly from Gear´s Camera app share to the E-mail. To Whatsapp... only the "old solution": take the picture and with the phone.
Something I have wondered but not being a developer I cant answer, has any of you clever sparks thought de constructing the gear manager and doing a re write? ie like we have roms we have a new watch controller (notice I didnt say gear manager)
NZ_Nitro said:
Something I have wondered but not being a developer I cant answer, has any of you clever sparks thought de constructing the gear manager and doing a re write? ie like we have roms we have a new watch controller (notice I didnt say gear manager)
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Reverse engineer? It's easy enough to view the source code, but there is a hell of a lot. I guess it could be possible
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Something I have wondered but not being a developer I cant answer, has any of you clever sparks thought de constructing the gear manager and doing a re write? ie like we have roms we have a new watch controller (notice I didnt say gear manager)
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In theory it is possible, *but* Samsung Gear is not a popular model like other smart watches, as it is not iOS/other Android compatible, and it makes to much trouble (perhaps, I do not know).
An re-written Gear Manager would be wonderful: flaws solved, opened Gear to all 4.x Android, etc... a dream come true.
I hear the Gear S is now totally independent, built in wifi, 4g, etc... Anyways, This thing is a bluetooth device, I'm assuming it's got a built in generic bluetooth dongle and the tizen OS itself handles protocols such as a2dp for headphones, and communication thru their strange SAP protocol. (Samsung Accessory Protocol)
Is it at all possible to achieve internet access for apps with any APIs for the new Gear S? I figured my phone (actual samsung) along with other manufacturers have a Tethering option. I was hoping I could turn on my bluetooth tethering and get actual internet connectivity on the Gear 2 Neo, and start developing real web-oriented apps for the watch without some flaky form of polling using a background process on the phone itself to relay content to the gear 2 neo.
Once I heard you could code for this in as close to HTML/CSS/JavaScript as possible (there are some things that just don't translate to be as simple as it is in any browser) I was hooked, rushed out and bought one, but now I'm disappointed at my purchase realizing there is no way to achieve any content from the web without a back-end running on the phone, and I never liked java, nor do I care to learn it.
Could it be already possible just no way to reference the internet thru the js methods available in the Tizen SDK? This is a form of linux, what about possibly getting perl or node.js in there and maybe making your own interface to sockets? It'd be so awesome to actually have perl on a gear 2 neo.
found thread
I searched before posting this, couldn't find nothing, and an unrelated google search about gear 2 neo ringtones brought up a link... go figure. Anybody else looking can also see the solution I stumbled upon here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-2/general/guide-internet-connection-gear2-5-steps-t2956328/post57140526#post57140526
while it's not perfect, it's a giant leap in the right direction I look forward to more in this thread!
Hi,
I've got 2 original Samsung Gear. One with Tizen and one with a rooted Null Rom 23 on.
But I can't make any of them work with my phone (Android 7).
Is there any way to make it work? (I mean, I can connect them via bluetooth... But that doesn't help me really use them as I was doing with my old Samsung phone ).
Thanks!!
Anyone ? Any pointers to how to try to make this watch work on a non-Samsung Android 7 phone would be really appreciated!!!
Use it with null 23 Rom, not flashing any Samsung related app (except pedometer, clock, timer and touchwiz settings). In this way you avoid completely the Samsung setup wizard. Do not flash gapps and limit the two cores frequency to 1ghz, use only Google voice.
Pair the watch with any phone normally from settings (even more than one)
Then use Watch Droid Phone 9 (not 10 because of Google new policy) and enjoy your new smartwatch with vocal answers to social apps, calls and multimedia controller
With Tizen no (or very very... difficult). Otherwise, easy with flashing Android Wear ROM (see post here)
EDIT : Sorry, just Gear 2 not Gear 1
I bought this watch some years ago, but never had a Samsung phone running Gear Manager to control it, so it went into a drawer. I found it again recently, and now I'm determined to get at least some value from the device. I know that the watch can do lots of things, but at present I'd just like to achieve using the watch as a watch - meaning, it has to display the correct time. I believe it is running the original Android OS (pre-Tizen), and there is no internal UI to set the time. So what's the quickest way for me to poke the date/time into this watch? I've read about the history of the device, including Kies, Odin, Heimdall, updated Samsung ROMs, custom ROMs, hacked versions of Gear Manager, Tizen, Android Wear, sending strings with sdb, etc. Ideally, I'm looking for a utility that can set the time externally, or a ROM version that has clock-setting as part of its UI. Note, I still don't own a Samsung phone . Thanks for any advice!