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Hopefully you guys know there is a software fix out from at&t and samsung that fixes gps problems and etc...
goes without saying you can't just straight update if you're rooted. That's where i'm stuck.
Before i touched anything, it would get to 50% and reboot, says the update was not applied.
Then I tried "unrooting" even though it said it was unrooted, and apps requiring SU backed this up saying my phone was unrooted.
Then during the update, it stops even sooner at "preparing".
So... how do we get around this without doing the master clear with odin3???
I DON'T want to lose all my data. I'm too lazy.
Mine said failed at 100%. I def got the jh7 update though. My phone was unable to reboot into recovery using the three button method. Now I can. My phone was rooted with stock rom.
Mine is rooted with the Voodoo fix and it failed during the update (I was at work so don't know at what step during the update).
Will have to do the voodoo-lag unfix - restore back to factory defaults and try it again..
Unless of course someone pops out a tweaked ROM before then!
check out this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789546 so we can get everyone with this issue together in one thread
Droid 4 running OTA GB 2.3.6 here in W. San Jose, CA
I get "check for update is not available at this time.". For many days now. LTE and Wifi (LTE is almost instant and Wifi takes 5 seconds or so).
I've looked at a zillion posts about "check for update is not available" and none have a definitive explanation. -- and all of them are from a couple of months ago or earlier. Didn't find anything recent.
I understand that the intended meaning of the message is that you can't connect to the update server.
I've read dozens of "solutions" but each one of them didn't work for somebody else so I've got to assume it was just coincidence -- resetting the phone, factory reset, renaming files, and so on. I *have* network connectivity. Data works great. Apparently I'm not able to connect to the update server? That shouldn't have anything to do with rooted or not, frozen or deleted apps, safestrap, etc. Fail to update once you get the download, sure. But I am expecting to be able to connect to the server.
Anybody know for sure?
I could imagine that the connect request might contain info identifying my particular phone model or ESN (would expect software version checks to be exchanged after connecting though). Something like that.
How does VZW roll out the updates? is it strictly by geographic region? or blocks of ESN? or what?
I have the "official" OTA download from here but figured if I side loaded it I might get out of sync or cut off from future OTAs? Failed to find a definitive answer on that too .
#eliot# from dialer then restart and try again... let us know
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#eliot# from dialer then restart and try again... let us know
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That will check in with Motorola's server btw kinda busy sorry for no further info
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Nope.
That's one of the myriad ones I read about (didn't recognize it right away though 'cause the post I saw it in had it in numbers instead of letters). One guy said it worked for him and the next guy said it didn't.
If you haven't tried it, as soon as you type in the final '#' you get a popup that says "Log Checkin initiated". So it does *something*but it didn't change my Check for update is not available... maybe whatever it is supposed to do never got into the server either.
lol, reminded me that I used to have a comprehensive list of all those codes for my Treo. Now I got yet another mission
[edit] dahaha, "there's an app for that". https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cx.makaveli.androidsecretcodes&hl=en
Other then that Matt had to push the up date to them.. I believe on one post he actually said to get back to stock 100% wipe cache partition then he pushed the ota to said device... he was really nice about the being rooted over there... the forum is closed now so I can't check for more info.. id post over at Motorola owners forum
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I'll give it a bit more soak time I guess. I will try side loading the update before resetting/wiping. Reset/wipe will be my last resort. First choice is OTA.
Part of what prompted my post is that I'm unclear if the phased rollout is complete.
Is it the case that EVERYONE with a Verizon Droid 4 who is going to get the notification should have gotten it by now? Or is VZW still in the middle of the phased roll out for the Droid 4's? Got to wondering since googling for the Unavailable message only returned results that were at least a couple of months old. I figured it's possible that server access was/is part of the phasing mechanism but, then again, expected to find constant posting about that if it was. It seems that the mechanism of the roll out and the schedule is also a well kept super secret.
are you rooted? I had that same problem for days before I realized unrooting will fix that. Despite what a lot of trusted posters have said here and other forums, having root and no other changes will cause that. I used voodoo ota rootkeeper (free on market) to unroot and I had the OTA installed within 10 minutes (downloaded over wifi). it is recommended you update your binaries in your superuser app before using rootkeeper.
if you're not rooted then this doesn't apply.
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one more note, the stock recovery on the D4 after ICS update now tracks whether you are or you were rooted. Unrooting your phone no longer hides the fact that you were at some point rooted if a service rep goes into the stock recovery screens. this has been reported on other phones earlier in the year, now also true for D4.
No effect.
I've tried all combinations.
I've used the D4 utility only to root and install safestrap ( and used safestrap only to do a backup. nothing else)
Routine goes like this:
- in safestrap: uninstall recovery
- in settings->applications->manage applications: safestrap -> force close, clear data, uninstall
- in ES File Explorer: delete /system/bin/logwrapper
- in ES File Explorer: rename /system/bin/logwrapper.bin -> /system/bin/logwrapper
- power off, reboot
- in Titanium Backup: clear filters (ALL)
- in Titanium Backup: unfreeze all user and system apps
(the only "system" bloatware I've removed was uninstallable through the normal settings->applications -- I did not use TI for that)
- in OTA Rootkeeper: delete su backup
- in superuser: update su binary
- in OTA Rootkeeper: Protect root
- in OTA Rootkeeper: temp un-root
- power off, reboot
Try to check for updates with 4G LTE (i have great reception) - fails in a second or less
Try to check for updates with WiFi - fails but it takes 5 seconds or a little longer for a response/popup
Since you installed Safestrap you can't install the OTA update anyway, so not much of a bother that you can't get it pushed to you It'd fail trying to install as OTA updates require the stock recovery.
Root does not affect it. My wife's Droid 4 was rooted (by me) and many system apps frozen and the OTA was pushed to her the same day the SOAK testers were scheduled to get it (she was not part of the SOAK test, though I was). My sisters Droid 4 was rooted as well and she got the OTA pushed to her and installed a week or so later,
You'll have to uninstall the recovery Safestrap installs, and uninstall Safestrap. You'll also have to edit some files (logwrapper.bin or something like that).
for the ota
sbf 217 4.0.4 with rsd
SBF
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/cdma_maserati/VRZ_XT894_6.7.2-180_DR4-16_M2-37_1FF.xml.zip
rsd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348587
dont forget to install the motorola driver first and enable debugging mode in development in your settings
i think they are here https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e-can-i-obtain-the-usb-drivers-for-my-device?
UPDATE: (lengthy with fairy tale ending)
Management summary: I am now on the OTA ICS (acquired over the air). following a wipe/factory reset
Called *611 tech support yesterday afternoon.
Got someone that sounded like they were located on this continent AND proficient. Always a good sign when they ask what the problem is right after getting your name instead of insisting on the 5 minute scripted generic question and answer form. Stated my problem was related to the system update for my Droid 4 and that I had been getting "check for update is not available..." for a few days now. My questions were "is that expected/normal?", "I understand roll outs are phased. What is the date the roll out is expected to be complete? -- last group has been notified or can pull it?", "If the persistent 'check unavailable' message is indicative of a problem then do they have possible fixes/known problem?".
He checked for the dates and said they expect to have completed the roll out by the end of September -- all Droid 4s should have it or have it available to them by the end of September. That the "check unavailable" did not necessarily indicate a problem but that it was not "normally expected" and more likely indicative of a problem on my end since it was persistent over that length of time. I said I felt better knowing they were still in the phased roll out and maybe I should just wait a while. We tried a soft reset (vol- and power) with no effect. He said he was afraid the next step would be to try a factory reset and advised I wait a while to see if the condition cleared. Went on to say that one effect/risk of the factory reset was that, if there was a software/system problem with GB preventing the OTA check it might also effect the factory reset -- if the phone had a problem coming up it might just pull the ICS update in order to come up from the reset. (Nice! he didn't just assume I would be OK with that following a reset). That I decided to wait I should definitely call back if it didn't resolve in 2 weeks. -- OK, that was a pleasantly refreshing encounter with tech support.
So I figured, fine, I haven't really tested a restore/recovery with Titanium backup and I've never gone through a factory reset so maybe now was the time. Had 2 alternatives. I could try using the D4 utility recovery using the official (same as the OTA) zip I have on my sd card or try the wipe/factory reset and see if OTA started working.
My thoughts (due to lack of any knowledge):
- Apparently once you get on ICS there is no reversion to GB (at least the actual kernel).
- Likely they have history at Galactic Headquarters of OTA and/or physical upgrades at factory or service centers for a particular phone.
- Obviously they check the phone's system version when you connect to the OTA server. Have to in order to determine if you even need an update. Additionally they would probably check if the version the phone reports is the version they expect it to be on -- I would, for technical and support reasons.
- So maybe if I went to ICS myself it might remove me from the OTA path for future updates. Not a big deal in my mind but, heh, why eliminate alternatives if you don't have to.
* reinstall safestrap and do a backup
* uninstall safestrap (uninstall recovery, uninstall safestrap apk, delete logwrapper and rename logwrapper.bin to logwrapper)
* unfreeze everything with Ti
* batch backup all user apps with Ti
* batch backup (green and yellow) system data with Ti
* temp un-root with Voodoo
* wipe/factory reset
It comes up in GB
(lot of activity follows which I didn't write down and can't quite remember)
Basically I waited for some market activity and whatnot to die down and tried update. Immediately said update available!
Cancelled that, got Ti (pro) back from the market, batch restored missing apps.
I have eset security (i don't know... I have it on my PCs so I figured I'd stick it on my phone too. Not that I think there is much in the way of virus for android yet). Eset has an urgent notification that it wants to be added as an administrator for the device so it can protect itself from installation of counterfeit Eset. I understand that but I'm wondering if maybe Eset maybe had something to do with my fail to connect to OTA. Probably not but that's the only thing that presented itself after the reset that looked like it could have been related.
OTA again to download the update -- deferred update after download.
Oh wait, forgot to batch restore system data. Did that, checked for sms messages. All good so I triggered the update.
Holy crap!!! I forgot to temp un-root! Figured the worst thing I could do was try to abort anything and just let it run and expect the update to fail.
It didn't fail. It completed just fine?
I go through the new phone screens far enough to sign into my google account.
Bunch of market update activity.
Restore missing apps with Ti
Restore system data with Ti
Then it strikes me that, sure enough, I'm still rooted. I did not restore root anywhere after the update.
I was rooted before the update (by accident) and still rooted after the update... Whats up with that?
So at the moment I'm a happy camper.
All my apps seem to have been effortlessly restored.
All my app settings seem to be intact.
All my system data seems to be intact with no migration issues.
I'm still (magically) rooted without doing anything.
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[/COLOR]one more note, the stock recovery on the D4 after ICS update now tracks whether you are or you were rooted. Unrooting your phone no longer hides the fact that you were at some point rooted if a service rep goes into the stock recovery screens. this has been reported on other phones earlier in the year, now also true for D4.
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I am going to have to disagree with this. I was rooted and flashed. Ran the download and the install failed. I then did a factory reset (lost my flash and root as expected) and immediately ran the download. Install went off without a hitch. I even had a support rep from verizon and motorola on the phone during the install when i was doing it because i was so mad about the slow download. They were watching the install once it was done because they both stated that everything on my phone "looked good".
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I am going to have to disagree with this. I was rooted and flashed. Ran the download and the install failed. I then did a factory reset (lost my flash and root as expected) and immediately ran the download. Install went off without a hitch. I even had a support rep from verizon and motorola on the phone during the install when i was doing it because i was so mad about the slow download. They were watching the install once it was done because they both stated that everything on my phone "looked good".
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I don't think that's what he was saying.
After you go to ICS it tracks (displayed in the recovery screen) if you are or were rooted.
Go into recovery and you will see a yellow "qe 0/0" left of the android.
ge 0/0 -- are not rooted/never been rooted
ge 0/1 -- are not rooted/been rooted sometime prior
ge 1/1 -- are rooted/been rooted
No idea if this was tracked before but not displayed in recovery. I suspect it was. On GB they were checking system files on boot and logging differences (I think I read they were comparing system file CRCs?). The list was getting logged to a qer...something log file (I forgot the file name and where it's at). I verified that. On my rooted GB there were mostly /xbin files and a couple of others listed in the log.
Now on ICS my recovery screen shows "qe 1/1".
Oddly enough I did a factory reset, forgot to temp un-root and my root persisted through the OTA update just fine. No idea why.
Since my root persisted through the update I was not able to check before re-rooting to see if it displayed "qe 0/0". My guess is this was always logged/stored and they just added the display to the recovery screen. I would find it almost inconceivable this information (and other) was not written to NVRAM since day one. Basic support/diagnosis information.
Recently my phone received an OTA update that I didn't want to install. I kept pushing remind me later but for two days in a row around the same time (between midnight and 1:30 am) my phone showed me the update with no option to remind me later. It then proceeded to reboot on its own and try to install the update. It failed both times thank GOD! However, my real concern is likely with AT&T because I believe this update will patch the exploit TowelRoot used. Once I calmed down (I was highly pissed) I used Titanium BackUp to freeze the app AT&T software update app, and now I've not been bothered with those irritating update prompts. Has anyone else tried to install the update while rooted? If so, was it successfully done? Has this issue I described happened to anyone else?
I have a TMobile Note 4 SM-N910T. It's currently on 5.1.1 stock and I just got the OTA Marshmallow update notification. I'd like to try Marshmallow out, but if I allow the OTA update, will I be able to root it later? Or is 6.0.1 unrootable (for now)? If I root it now (before updating to MM) will I still get the OTA update? And will it still be rooted after the update? So many questions!
ota then root
I OTA'ed, now the phone randomly reboots several times a day, and some apps don't work correctly. Great.
factory reset.
*sigh* I was afraid you were going to say that. Now the problem is backing it up. I have a Titanium Backup Pro license, but I only use it on my old rooted GS2. The Note 4 is not rooted so TB won't run on it. All the rooting tutorials say "back up your phone before you root" but you need root to run TB. Chicken or egg? I guess I could try Samsung Kies, don't know if it will back up everything. My photos are backed up to Google Photos, I guess everything else is replaceable, but I would really rather not have to reinstall all my apps one by one after a factory reset.
That brings up another question: when you to go Settings/Backup and Reset, I have "Backup my data" set to On and linked to my Google account, but nowhere can I find documentation of exactly WHAT gets backed up or to WHERE (it says to "Google servers" but what the heck does that mean? I can't find it on my Google Drive or anywhere else on my Google account dashboard.)
I do greatly appreciate your help, by the way.
You could try reinstalling through kies or smart switch. Make sure to clear caches before and after. And see if that works. If it doesnt help, you could flash recovery, root, try to backup as much as you can between reboots and then factory reset. Your apps should automatically download from play store. But without the titbackup files you'll lose settings and data in a lot of apps that Google doesn't backup.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.
kydar said:
I have a TMobile Note 4 SM-N910T. It's currently on 5.1.1 stock and I just got the OTA Marshmallow update notification. I'd like to try Marshmallow out, but if I allow the OTA update, will I be able to root it later? Or is 6.0.1 unrootable (for now)? If I root it now (before updating to MM) will I still get the OTA update? And will it still be rooted after the update? So many questions!
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Were you able to downgrade back to 5.1.1? My phone also download the MM ota but I haven't installed it. I rooted 5.1.1 first and am trying to locate where exactly the MM ota downloaded to.
Been hearing too much about problems with MM.
Shad0wsabr3 said:
Were you able to downgrade back to 5.1.1? My phone also download the MM ota but I haven't installed it. I rooted 5.1.1 first and am trying to locate where exactly the MM ota downloaded to.
Been hearing too much about problems with MM.
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There aren't that many problems with MM. Just superficial stuff like not having mobile data toggle. The problems you are hearing about a factory reset will fix. Like lag, jankyness, apps loading, phone freezing temporarily. You won't be able to do OTA. It will fail because of root. You need to titanium backup or whatever method you prefer of backing up data and flash through kies, odin or smart switch. Probably easier to go that route unless you only did minor things with root like just block ads, then you can probably get away with flashing stock recovery and then OTA. You still might have to factory reset like I had to even though I flashed whole rom through smart switch. If you have xposed or modified something like swapping recent apps and back key like me, then you'll need to flash marshmallow whole and start over after backing up.
Afaik, you can't downgrade to 5.1.1 unless somebody figured out a workaround or you only flashed everything except bootloader.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.
@Shad0wsabr3, my phone gave me the choice to delay the upgrade for a while, but eventually just did it without my consent. I suppose you could download stock 5.1.1 from sammobile if you really wanted to downgrade. I just wish I could figure out how to back up my (unrooted) phone so I could then do a factory reset and see if it helps the problems I'm having.
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@Shad0wsabr3, my phone gave me the choice to delay the upgrade for a while, but eventually just did it without my consent. I suppose you could download stock 5.1.1 from sammobile if you really wanted to downgrade. I just wish I could figure out how to back up my (unrooted) phone so I could then do a factory reset and see if it helps the problems I'm having.
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Iv never backed up an unrooted device so I wouldn't know. Glad you nrought that up as Iv been meaning to look into that.
Would you happen to know where the downloaded ota file location is? My phone downloaded it and I keep postponing it.
Sorry, idk exactly where in the file system it is. All I can caution you again is, I kept postponing it and postponing it, and then one day the phone just popped up a message saying it was going to reboot and update, whether I liked it or not. Well, it didn't actually SAY whether I liked it or not but it did decide that I had postponed the update long enough and it was going to apply the update, giving me no option to postpone it any longer. That sort of pissed me off.
Please let me know if you come up with a backup solution. I've tried SimpleADB or whatever it is called these days, and another app that claimed to be able to back up an unrooted phone. Neither of them worked as advertised.
Where are the root instructions for completely stock 910T with MM update?
vernj123 said:
Where are the root instructions for completely stock 910T with MM update?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...overy-n910t-t3-marshmallow-pe3-guide-t3406870
kydar said:
Sorry, idk exactly where in the file system it is. All I can caution you again is, I kept postponing it and postponing it, and then one day the phone just popped up a message saying it was going to reboot and update, whether I liked it or not. Well, it didn't actually SAY whether I liked it or not but it did decide that I had postponed the update long enough and it was going to apply the update, giving me no option to postpone it any longer. That sort of pissed me off.
Please let me know if you come up with a backup solution. I've tried SimpleADB or whatever it is called these days, and another app that claimed to be able to back up an unrooted phone. Neither of them worked as advertised.
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I'm still researching what your dealing with. As for me I found the ota file. For those looking for it this is how and where I found it....
With RomToolbox I went to root browser. Then to data folder and a folder named fota. Within the fota folder is the ota update named update.zip. I erased that and then went into Titanium Backup and chose to freeze both software update files. So far no constant reminders that I have an update ready to be installed.
Hope this may help.
My note 4 was bought used, no warranty. When I bought it, it was rooted, but no custom rom, worked great. Once lollipop came out, I wiped and returned to non-root and was able to get the update through tmobile. Didn't bother rerooting as things were ok. Marshmallow udpate came, and I noticed a lot of screen lag. Less than a week ago, tmobile did some sort of update and now, the phone shuts off and restarts on it's own, has very slow screen response (nothing, and then tries to do the same function 10 times in a row, messaging is very slow, types the same words several times over). I did a factory re-set twice. Once, I reloaded all my favorite apps, etc. still bad, so then I did factory reset but did not add anything or bring in my contacts, etc. I am planning on buying the note 7 in a 3-4 months, but in the meantime, would like to continue to use my note 4. I tried doing the rooting method using odin, it appeared to work ok (got the successful notice), triggered the knox thing, but..when I use a root checker, it says phone is not rooted. I am hoping that by rooting and putting a new rom on there I can fix this thing in the interim. So..suggestions on what to do next? Let me know what additional information you need. Could it be the phone itself and not the software? Suggestions on a cheap interim phone? links to relevant threads also appreciated. Is there a better way to wipe everything and start new that I am did not do? I did a factory reset. I have two batteries, which I changed out intermittently to see if it as a bad battery. Android version 6.0.1, security patch level july 1, 2016 Kernel 3.10.40-7804088
Knox version 2.6
You need to give more information on what you did to root. What version is your phone, what files did you odin, and did you flash SuperSU?
more info
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You need to give more information on what you did to root. What version is your phone, what files did you odin, and did you flash SuperSU?
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No to supersu? it's sm N910t, I think what finally worked what odin 3.9 version and flashed the stock that is meant to go with this particular phone to downgrade it down to lollipop. The first few times, I got fail with Odin, but realized that I had marked the option on the phone to keep it from being wiped/flashed if someone found it, once I got that off, I got a successful message. I used the following link and did all of the things mentioned on a link that I am too newbie to be allowed to post, apparently.
but it goes with 3.7 odin, flash the stock firmware from the phone model, and get to the reset button, if successul and then supersu appears.
I got as far as step 8, with odin showing the green 'reset'. But when I went back to the phone, I did not have supersu.
I've tried to do it again, but I get 'fail'
Try out the toolkit that is in the forum. https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...share_tid=2997946&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
[TOOLKIT] SKIPSOFT ANDROID TOOLKIT - GALAXY NOTE 4 - Drivers, Root, Recovery + MORE
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The link takes me to a 404 page not found, is part of it missing?
send me the link by private message so i can see what you are doing?