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[Q] What to do Against battery drain?

I now have one week to the Nexus One bought secondhand. It suits me perfectly stand alone I have a little trouble with the battery life of the phone. Morning when the phone is 100% and I come out of school (14:30 hours) the battery is still around 20%. I find this a bit short. Ok, I'll use him at school (bit Internet, twitter refreshes every 9 minutes)
There is an automatic task killer, and that helps a bit but I think there are about 80% after 8 hours battery life is a bit much. Me internet is also constantly and I really like to keep.
The battery is probably not because I've got 2 batteries and they both give the same result.
Anyone have any idea what I can do?
I've been a bit inet searched but not really found anything. I did see somewhere a separate battery behind the phone, but I'm not waiting because that makes him a bit heavier and uglier.

10% per hour is pretty poor battery life. Are you running stock Android? 3rd party firmwares can give you much better battery life (the latest versions of CyanogenMod are using less than 1% per hour when fully idle).
But there are things you can check. Have you looked in Settings -> About phone -> Battery usage? If you are using Gingerbread and you look at the graph, if there is a solid line (or mostly solid) next to the "awake" portion, it means that your phone isn't properly entering its low powered state. Download spare parts from the market and check out partial wake usage under the battery history section of that app.

Please post your screen on time value from the battery menu so we can see how long your screen is on.

I would say to go and disable background data. Disabling this will definitely improve your battery life. Of course, you aren't going to get you twitter updates but aside from that, the battery life should improve.
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FLAC Vest said:
I would say to go and disable background data. Disabling this will definitely improve your battery life. Of course, you aren't going to get you twitter updates but aside from that, the battery life should improve.
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While it is true that battery life would improve if Background Data was disabled (or limited via a program like Juice Defender), it doesn't take into account his actual problem. Unless it is a ton of apps constantly downloading that is keeping his battery usage in the toilet, this will only yield a slight improvement. I believe the cause is is an app (or apps) that prevent his phone from entering the low powered sleep state.
I don't know what stock Android gets from completely idle use (haven't run it since July last year), but a basic CyanogenMod install would sip between 1-2% per hour with the latest stable and the latest nightlies, some are reporting 1% every 2-3 hours when the phone is left alone (due to a fix that lets the microphones go into a deep sleep state).

Twitter refreshing every 9 minutes can not be helping, that said I doubt that's your entire issue but reducing the refresh rate should help quite a bit.

If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?

Estimated Prophet Hawk said:
If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?
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The battery app in my sig is the only one that reads the chip inside your battery to tell if it's legit or not, what the battery age is, etc. Needs root to work though.

Estimated Prophet Hawk said:
If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?
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You can also get Battery Left from the Marketplace and when it gets calibrated it gives you a time until death number and some other features.
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Start by getting rid of the task killer.
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JuiceDefender?

Hi
Anyone using JuiceDefender with your galaxy note? is it worth it to buy this application?
Thanks
Sam

Save your money and skip it like anti virus apps. Many people recommended it so i bought it but i didn't like it at all. Experienced sluggish performance, connections not stable and sometimes connection doesn't even come back on unless i manually turn it back on. Also push mail doesn't work since juicedefender turns off data when not in use and checks every 15, 30 etc intervals (however u set it to check), i don't like that at all. I rather have 100% reliable fast performance connectivity than app that saves few % of battery. Just my 2cents
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hmm i heard alot of people telling it saves alot of battery power.. jus wanted to know about the pro version..

Yeah it does save quite an amount. You can configure it to on off Wi-Fi necessarily or learn specific network when you are on the particular area of interest.
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sam20e said:
hmm i heard alot of people telling it saves alot of battery power.. jus wanted to know about the pro version..
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My experience was with juicedefender ultimate.
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zen0s said:
My experience was with juicedefender ultimate.
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How was it? any real battery improvement? any lagging issues?
Sam

My previous phone was pretty crappy and I had pretty crappy service, so I had to make sure I turned wifi, mobile data, etc. off when not using them. On my Note, I don't even bother turning them off because they drain so little. I don't think bothering with Juicedefender is worth the trouble.
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Had an old Xperia Arc and Juice Defender worked quite well to last me the day.
Now with the Note, I tried with and without it and I find no significant difference actually.
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I agree...
Being new to the android and rooting scene. I downloaded all the recommended apps and one by one uninstalled them including juicedefender...
Whats the point of it stopping data when screen is off? It defeats the purpose of push notifications.
Also I didn't notice any real extension of battery life either

I think it depends how you set up juice defender ultimate. For example on weekdays and working hours I use the "peek" option, letting jd enable connection every 5 minutes. Of course I have than battery drain. With different settings on different times and/or days (up to flight mode at night) I have significant less battery consumption.
It is also important when you use your phone a lot with the screen on, not to let jd automatically turn data on, because then there is obviously no difference at all, with or with out jd running.

There is no use of such apps, I have tried used many such apps from my S2 days and I never felt any difference in performance or battery life..just let it go. Ur using an Android device, and if u use it as a smartphone should be used, u will need to charge in at least once a day.
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AutoStarts is doing everything for me.

I had used JuiceDefender for a short spell when on GB. However, BetterBatteryStats soon showed what a battery hog JD was, so I made it disappear from my phone. Forever.

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I had used JuiceDefender for a short spell when on GB. However, BetterBatteryStats soon showed what a battery hog JD was, so I made it disappear from my phone. And never again.
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Exactly. Juice defender is crap. Its just for lazy people who can't maintain their settings on their own. and juice defender is obviously always running in the background, using up cpu power and draining battery on its own
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sam20e said:
How was it? any real battery improvement? any lagging issues?
Sam
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It does save little battery and drains at the same time. Huge down side of using this kind of app is no push and data connection is glitchy, sometimes takes awhile to connect back to network or wifi and slower performance. I can still use gnote all day with single charge so I don't find this kind of app useful to me at all. It's really not hard to turn off and on data or wifi on android unlike ios crap where you have to dig in settings.
Save few % battery vs slow performance, hit or miss connection.. I think answer is simple
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I used to use it, ultimate version. But I quit using it and still have great battery because of my own setting changes. Juicedefender might be okay for people that don't use their phone much. But, if you are constantly on it, like I am, it is just a memory and battery hog.

Its not worth it, and possibly wastes battery juice rather than saving it.
I've been using it for several weeks now, when i go to sleep my usual percentage is from 70 to 85 % i always turn wifi off as i don't charge it at night. With the app running in the background, when i wake up it goes down to 45% when i do not use it as in its not running in the background I'm the morning the battery percentage only hours down by 5% max to 80%.

Pcworld made an intensiv3 comparison on the effect this apps do. The verdict: keep your money.
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battery saver is better

Don't bother. I used it on my HTC Flyer and I saw no difference. Migrated it to the SGN and I saw a huge difference after I uninstalled.
The features are limited and just stupid if you ask me. I believe the best battery app would regulste connectivity on demand (ie when I open Dolphin or refresh Facebook it would connect automatically and disconnect immediately afterwards).
If you are looking to extend battery life I suggest self regulating your connectivity (ie use the toggles) and screen brightness.
For even better battery life try and avoid apps that constantly run (eg ones that monitor other apos and processes).
You should get very decent life out of the SGN, and if you don't do what I did and get a spare battery. They are cheaper than you might think and they are an absolute life saver in emergencies or times with heavy usage.
Hope that helped
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Post you battery life chart here!

I literally cannot take this phone off my hands but I tried to test out how long the battery could last with few gaming and browsing with light usage and this is what I got
I'm really impressed with standby times
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Used much WiFi for fb and surfing. A bit mobile data.. no games..
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I found there might be some defective on software or sth else,
some batteries drain so fast, some are not.
for example, mine never last over 24hr even i turn off everything, use only 2G, with no app installed.
and it's instable, sometimes it drains so fast, sometimes not. I don't know why.

Until we get a software update probably will be great battery like the update for one x
Made possible by my sexy LG Optimus 4X HD (P880)

my baterry :good:

Why is my android system using this much power? Anyone else have that broblem? My phone was recharged before I took the screenshot. Battery did run out on 12h with 3h 10min screen on.
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duukka said:
Why is my android system using this much power? Anyone else have that broblem? My phone was recharged before I took the screenshot. Battery did run out on 12h with 3h 10min screen on.
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Same here my android system is on top, even after deleting some stock apps and disabling fast demorcacy. I usually get screen time of around 3 hours 10 mins which is poor.
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What apps do you have installed and what settings have you changed?

How does one take a screen shot on stock rom?

AW: Post you battery life chart here!
Atomix86 said:
How does one take a screen shot on stock rom?
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Just press vol down and the power-button at the same time.
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Could u please always upload your screen on time? Battery chart doesn't make much sanse without it

duukka said:
Why is my android system using this much power?
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I think that is why many of us expect a huge battery improvement after updating to JB ,perhaps the newer system wont be so power hungry.

these screenshots are fun and all but they are totaly irrelevant.
hoe much USE time are people gettng is whats interesting.
so screen on time.
as the goal is no drain with screen off and as long as possible screen on time (this is when you use apps and so on).
my phone can be on for 2 days and still hve 95% juice left but thats kinda irrelevant if i dont touch it.
when i use it non stop my use time averages on 4 hours and 15 minutes so far.
all the people having problems with battery drain must have either bad apps installed of verry poor wifi/3g connections.
as in a good serup with no bad apps and good signal wifi should not drain battery at all if your not using it.
i would so like all people with issue to lend me there phones for 3 days to see if in my stable envourement they have the same issues.
im fairly sure that all these problems are signal and user related and that it has nothing to do with the hardware.

My phone would only give me 2 hours max if the mobile data is on with sync off facebook sync set to 1 hour and hotmail sync set to 1 hours. But if wifi is on throughout the day i would get around 3 hours 15 min average with sync on hotmail set to push and facebook sync set to 1 hour. The battery is really poor as i only use it generally for txting whatsapp and just a bit browsing thats all nothing else. When i watch videos my phone consumes less battery, than normal usage which i do everyday. The highest screen time i have ever got was 4 hours 15 mins thatd because i watched a video for almost like 3 hours thats why. But the battery is still really poor
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My android system also consumes a lot of power, its always on top no matter what. I am running on V_10H I disabled some stock apps using titanium backup and used fast demorcacy but the only difference I could see was android wakeups had been much lower thats all and so less power consumption when phone on standby thats all.

hutjeflut said:
my phone can be on for 2 days and still hve 95% juice left but thats kinda irrelevant if i dont touch it.
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this is totally relevant information for regular users.
many people complain about battery drain and that a custom rom is the cause or custom kernel when its available, but what shows that it is not, is when you can place your handheld mobile or tablet alone with wifi set to instant off and you got 3g disabled and it lives for days without loss of battery, you know that it is stable.
when you suddenly lose battery in hours and previous tests showed it was lasting days, you can be sure you got battery infected apps trying to activate your cpu all the time.

i'd like to buy this phone but i'm a bit afaid of the battery drain. people who says it last 2 days with normal use other says that with gaming and browsing lasts 10-15h but a lot says that the battery lasts just 6 h with normal use... can someone who owns this phone and he use it with a middle-intense use (texting,browsing,gaming some time) tell me how much lasts the battery please??

Omar56 said:
i'd like to buy this phone but i'm a bit afaid of the battery drain. people who says it last 2 days with normal use other says that with gaming and browsing lasts 10-15h but a lot says that the battery lasts just 6 h with normal use... can someone who owns this phone and he use it with a middle-intense use (texting,browsing,gaming some time) tell me how much lasts the battery please??
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Read my previous post
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rsabdul said:
Read my previous post
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So there's no way. battery life is really bad....that's a pity since i like it a lot...

Omar56 said:
So there's no way. battery life is really bad....that's a pity since i like it a lot...
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Yeh the batterys bad the camera isnt that good and the games that developers make are mostly laggy on this phone such as asphalt 7 real racing 3 as they dont seem to optimise the graphics for the tegra 3
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Omar56 said:
So there's no way. battery life is really bad....that's a pity since i like it a lot...
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Well, my usage pattern is kinda light, but still...
- took it off the charger at 7:15 am
- 3g data permanently on while I'm not at home (from 7:20 til 18:00 or 19:00)
- wifi on when I'm at home (during the night too, I never switch the phone off)
- sync always on (gmail, whatsapp)
- received a couple short phone calls, let's say 5-6 mins
- received a bunch of emails, say about 15 or something
- some messaging (on whatsapp and gtalk, I don't use sms)
- some facebook, let's say 15 minutes (through mobile website 'cause FB app sucks big time, always had and most probably always will)
- some net browsing looking for a few stuff, let's say 5-10 minutes
- checked a couple forums on tapatalk a couple times
- updated 3 or 4 apps on wifi
- downloaded a 50mb game on wifi and played it for like 10-15 minutes
- ebook reading on moon+ for 1 hour and 30 minutes (maybe even longer, didn't check the exact time)
I connected it to the charger when it reached 12% battery at about midnight THE NEXT DAY (yes, that is around 41 hours without recharging it)
Overall, I can say I'm satisfied, at least for my standard usage...
- Stock v10h firmware, no root (yet).
- Nova launcher since 5 minutes after buying it
- I usually keep brightness quite low unless I'm out in the open under the sun, good thing about this phone's screen is that it's usually very well visible even with only a 20% brightness. If I need to use it in full sunlight, I conveniently placed a full brightness widget on my homescreen, and then back to 20% with one click when I'm done. No autobrightness 'cause I don't like much how it's set to work on this phone (was kinda better on my old i9000, but oh well, 1 click widget and I'm good to go, no sweat)
- Disabled 3 or 4 stock apps (through app settings, no titanium or other stuff)
I noticed that battery usage was kinda higher before disabling those stock apps, I guess one of them was a powermonster of sorts (I suspect the meteo one, but I'm not sure)
- No facebook notifications of course, not for battery-related reasons but just 'cause I simply hate them... but I guess that's nice on the battery too

REALLY bad battery life, is this normal?

Heya,
I've used my One for a few hours now, I'd say moderately heavy use (checked facebook/twitter, downloaded some apps, watched a few youtube video's, played Dungeon Hunter 4 for 30 minutes or so, checked flipboard).
I'm amazed by the poor battery life, especially since all the reviews were so positive. Will it get better? Could I have a faulty battery? This is nowhere near the 14 hours people have been talking about...
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Zepid said:
Heya,
I've used my One for a few hours now, I'd say moderately heavy use (checked facebook/twitter, downloaded some apps, watched a few youtube video's, played Dungeon Hunter 4 for 30 minutes or so, checked flipboard).
I'm amazed by the poor battery life, especially since all the reviews were so positive. Will it get better? Could I have a faulty battery? This is nowhere near the 14 hours people have been talking about...
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With what you are doing i lose like maybe 5-10%. Your battery is faulty for sure!

igi0n said:
With what you are doing i lose like maybe 5-10%. Your battery is faulty for sure!
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you can't tell yet. @Zepid, look for better battery stats xda edition and install it and post the screenshot for kernel and partial wakelocks, other and process.

It's hard to really tell with the default battery monitor, try BetterBatteryStats or GSAM from a full charge and go from there.

Also turn Power Saver on. It limits the CPU to 1.1GHz, and won't even affect gaming performance, or anything else for the matter except benchmarks. Click on the Power Saver option to customize what gets turned on/off.

You should check out the thread that talks about battery saving tips. It helps a lot and make sure you install a custom Rom such as trickdroid.
It's very battery efficient.
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Don't forget that if you install a custom ROM, you'll need to root your One. That also means loosing your warranty
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DH4 is a beast on battery in my experience. It is hard to play that game and not burn a ton of battery.
Anyway, when I don't play DH4 I still get 5 hours screen time. That's without power saver, auto sync disabled, and Lux adjusting screen brightness. I'm sure if I used power saver I'd get much longer.

Seriously, give it a couple of days!

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Seriously, give it a couple of days!
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I have found my battery improved after about a week of having my phone.

Graphic intense games like Dungeon Hunter 4 EATS the battery.

Thanks guys, the Power saving feature definately seems to help, and it's not slowing down the phone at all. I'll give it some time and see if the battery life improves.

Zepid said:
Thanks guys, the Power saving feature definately seems to help, and it's not slowing down the phone at all. I'll give it some time and see if the battery life improves.
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before you start combating symptoms, you should first try to diagnose the disease, so you can combat the underlying disease, follow my first post

I have to agree, my battery life is pretty poor. I'm going to give it a week and hopefully it clears itself out.

macros14 said:
I have to agree, my battery life is pretty poor. I'm going to give it a week and hopefully it clears itself out.
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You should allow more time, at least 2 or 3 updates, to iron out the biggest bugs. All manufacturers need that time, apple en Samsung too.

[Q] Battery life... Issue~

Hey guys! About 5 days ago I got my self a new HTC one (Dev, unlocked)~
Info: I'm running the latest Trick-Droid Rom, with Juice Defender(Free: Says i'm getting 112% battery life from it), Greenify, and Nova launcher~ And my case can sometimes run a little hot, something like 1C too at most 3C above no case temps.
Right now i'm getting about 5 hours and 20 minutes of web-browsing time on my battery, and with all these "Optimizing" apps... And the high reviews of the HTC one's Battery, i'm wondering if might have an issue on my hands?
I know I have not given enough info for anyone to give a diagnosis, I just want to know if I need to start digging for leaks!
~Daniel

Breadmen said:
Hey guys! About 5 days ago I got my self a new HTC one (Dev, unlocked)~
Info: I'm running the latest Trick-Droid Rom, with Juice Defender(Free: Says i'm getting 112% battery life from it), Greenify, and Nova launcher~ And my case can sometimes run a little hot, something like 1C too at most 3C above no case temps.
Right now i'm getting about 5 hours and 20 minutes of web-browsing time on my battery, and with all these "Optimizing" apps... And the high reviews of the HTC one's Battery, i'm wondering if might have an issue on my hands?
I know I have not given enough info for anyone to give a diagnosis, I just want to know if I need to start digging for leaks!
~Daniel
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I'm not using any battery saving apps or anything like that, I'm all stock, I have everything on except finance stocks and stock weather, I do a lot of web browsing, texting, music and that's about it...a few calls here and there. You may just need to give it a few more charge cycles...I don't believe in all those battery "saving" apps or "optimizing" apps.
Get "wake lock detect" and "better battery stats" to determine what's going on.
And my battery life isn't as great as some people's here, but it's pretty awesome to me.
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dirtyhamster73 said:
I'm not using any battery saving apps or anything like that, I'm all stock, I have everything on except finance stocks and stock weather, I do a lot of web browsing, texting, music and that's about it...a few calls here and there. You may just need to give it a few more charge cycles...I don't believe in all those battery "saving" apps or "optimizing" apps.
Get "wake lock detect" and "better battery stats" to determine what's going on.
And my battery life isn't as great as some people's here, but it's pretty awesome to me.
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I spent about an hour testing stuff... I found a major drain in the form of SH (Shell) stuck in some run away process, after deleting Storage/Bin/SH 3 or 4 times it seems to have fixed it self~
I think I will best sending in the bug too *TrickDroid* to see if they can get it fixed.... Deleting the SH file has made some small issues pop up from time to time~

Is this okay? Or is the performance low?
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Is this okay? Or is the performance low?
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That's decent, 4-5 hours of screen time seems to be the average.