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Now we need Devs!

I'm willing to test any and all roms, themes etc. for any devs. Just let me know. I'll be getting a different phone so I'll just use the Zio as a testing ground!

okay guinea pig... since the rom seems to be deodexed. see if any of the blackbar mods for froyo work

I'm already a step ahead of you. Ill post what works tomorrow.
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I am also willing to use my Zio to help
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Tomorrow was a day ago. Any updates?
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I'm already a step ahead of you. Ill post what works tomorrow.
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I would also know how that worked. I would love to have a black bar instead of this grey one.
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Sorry for the late reply. I've tested three of the black status bars without any success. Still learning.
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Where is the status bar located within the file system? I want to see if there is anything I can do.
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I found the location of the status bar. Check my thread for more info. I think we just need to do a little work.
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Well Im going to teach myself Java because supposedly it is prerequisite for learning to develope for android. I came across good 101 Java tutorials online. I just really want to mod roms for my zio and maybe even start creating an app.
Any ideas?

I'm currently taking Linux+ so I should be of some help.
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Yeah I'm not going to start taking OS classes for my major until I start taking core classes. In either case Im going to start early with Java. My school library has older editions of Java textbooks I think but I'm to check them out AZ well.

DarkkEnergy said:
Well Im going to teach myself Java because supposedly it is prerequisite for learning to develope for android. I came across good 101 Java tutorials online. I just really want to mod roms for my zio and maybe even start creating an app.
Any ideas?
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You can develop full apps with java and xml for the layout. Being familiar with linux is also a must, since android is just a linux flavor.
http://www.thenewboston.com/ is a great place for a beginner or guru. Tons of video java lessons as well as android development.

Linux has helped me with the file system. Although I still have alot to learn before I am any kind of guru.
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everything of importance on android phones is written in java.

But the kernel and file system is Linux based. You have more on your phone that you wouldn't think you would have on a phone.
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Yes, the OS is linux based, however all the apps are java based.
Here, read this
Its from cyanogen himself. Good place to start if you want to get involved with android.

option94 said:
Yes, the OS is linux based, however all the apps are java based.
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The Android platform is basically a linux flavor. It contains more then a linux the file system and kernel. Yes exactly what I posted, Java may be used in android development. That is not the only language, There are a few others including C.

Thanks for claryfing the different programming languages and their relevance to the cell phone structure and android OS.
Java and linux are both important for exploiting and developing in other words.

Any and all Devs, please join us @ irc.freenode.net/openzio

I'm having Ubuntu issues. Can anyone help?

So i decided to load Ubuntu 11.04 onto my old computer, and the screen is messing up. Can't see, and it's odd. The "try ubuntu" option on the live cd I burned did the same thing. Does anyone know what I can do to fix this?
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i have never seen this before... try re installing? try a different distro?

ross231 said:
i have never seen this before... try re installing? try a different distro?
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What distro would you suggest that keeps a similar look to Ubuntu?
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EggosEvo said:
What distro would you suggest that keeps a similar look to Ubuntu?
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12.04
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veeman said:
12.04
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And if that gives the same issue?
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EggosEvo said:
And if that gives the same issue?
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use xubuntu or kubuntu

Could it have just been an error in writing the live cd?
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Could it have just been an error in writing the live cd?
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i don't really think that's the case, what have you got to lose if you try other live cds?

It looks to me like an issue with the default graphics driver loaded at start-up. There used to be a lot of problems with both Ubuntu and Mint - I can't remember the exact details though.
If you want something that looks like Ubuntu but is better then try LinuxMint
It is based on Ubuntu, but looks better, and the support is second-to-none.

I had almost the opposite problem i guess. I was just trying out ubuntu 12.04 and found it was laggy and annoying probably due to a single core cpu. I had come across linux mint a nd liked the look of it and new it might be easier on processes. It turns out the look of mint is the cinnamon desktop and can be used in ubuntu which i tried.
My problem was when i logged into cinnamon there was no wallpaper, no useable icons visible except power (to logout) when i did manage to open a window or program there was nothing in the window to see except the shadow around that window.
I am a determined noob though- so i dumped ubuntu and loaded a full mint install and ended up in the same spot. grrrr.
it was like when a web page is not quite loaded, you can see where things will or should be but not everything and its not quite useable.
I am a determined noob though impatient.
Ubuntu it is now!
It is a bit snappier after some use - like it had to learn my commonly used programs or something and now likes me more.
longish post i know -sorry!

XDA, ive got a challenge for you!

I've got an old Samsung Galaxy Mini S5570. It won't start, It goes into Download Mode, Not into CWM Recovery. I don't care about this Phone, and it's in crappy condition. But, It would be amazing to see if someone actually could install another OS on it. I only know a Three alternative Phone OS, which are iOS, Android and Firefox OS. (If you know another one, name it.)
I'm Shure iOS won't run on it, so we can count that one out. I don't want Android on it either, so count that one out too, Which leaves us down to FireFox OS.
So, Whos interested in making this thing work?
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I think you can't install another OS, but you can install custom Rom based on it, like iOS rom, windows 8 and others. If you don't want android os, you shouldn't have bought it in the first place

I bought it 2 summers ago, it was my first Android Phone.
I'm a Noob when it comes to ROMs, I usually like what it out-of-the-box.
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Just a complete guess, but I would think as long as the hardware supports whatever you're trying to run on it, it will accept any OS. Just like you can install Linux or Mac on an old windows computer, all you really should need is the framework. As far as I know hardware isn't necessarily specific to software. In theory it should be possible. :beer:
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Stryke_the_Orc said:
Just a complete guess, but I would think as long as the hardware supports whatever you're trying to run on it, it will accept any OS. Just like you can install Linux or Mac on an old windows computer, all you really should need is the framework. As far as I know hardware isn't necessarily specific to software. In theory it should be possible. :beer:
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You're right, but I was talking about his Galaxy Mini
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raensoe said:
You're right, but I was talking about his Galaxy Mini
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you're wrong, it is possible to boot ubuntu or windows on android phone, and it is also possible to boot firefox os, only no one did it yet

I agree the problem is how to start with it
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Johan_hallgren said:
I've got an old Samsung Galaxy Mini S5570. It won't start, It goes into Download Mode, Not into CWM Recovery. I don't care about this Phone, and it's in crappy condition. But, It would be amazing to see if someone actually could install another OS on it. I only know a Three alternative Phone OS, which are iOS, Android and Firefox OS. (If you know another one, name it.)
I'm sure iOS won't run on it, so we can count that one out. I don't want Android on it either, so count that one out too, Which leaves us down to FireFox OS.
So, Whos interested in making this thing work?
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Did you mean Gecko OS ? Wow, you don't want Android heh... why ? Android has better customization than both Firefox, and iOS.
If you don't want Android then why you run Android X86 on your PC, :sigh: people these days...

If you want to be involved in something...Here is the thread from galaxy gio...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827571
when it's ready you'll only have to port it

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Did you mean Gecko OS ? Wow, you don't want Android heh... why ? Android has better customization than both Firefox, and iOS.
If you don't want Android then why you run Android X86 on your PC, :sigh: people these days...
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1. I like android.
2. I want to try something new.
3. I run android x86 along with Ubuntu and Windows, so its not my only OS.
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yackovsky said:
you're wrong, it is possible to boot ubuntu or windows on android phone, and it is also possible to boot firefox os, only no one did it yet
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Oh I see
I just thought that we can't do it since mini is a low end device.
Didn't thought it was possible
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It is very possible to B2G in our Galaxy Mini. But I have no idea how to.
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jamesmuking5 said:
It is very possible to B2G in our Galaxy Mini. But I have no idea how to.
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Get idea!
- https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US...ites#Have_a_compatible_phone_or_use_emulators
- http://blog.techno-barje.fr/post/2012/10/27/firefox-os-bootstrap/

First i want to know if there are Any Other Phone OSes that are worth trying. I litterly don't give a single **** if theres "No apps" or if "Android is Waaaaaaay better".
Dont hestitate, name it.
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You could try bada
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Johan_hallgren said:
First i want to know if there are Any Other Phone OSes that are worth trying. I litterly don't give a single **** if theres "No apps" or if "Android is Waaaaaaay better".
Dont hestitate, name it.
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Try BRICKED OS ! It's better !

F4uzan said:
Try BRICKED OS ! It's better !
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I have it on my mothers iPad. It rocks.
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Johan_hallgren said:
I have it on my mothers iPad. It rocks.
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Haha you destroyed your iPad ? Great, i hate Apple with Steve Jobs bite mark on it.
Mini can run :
1. Debian
2. Ubuntu
3. Android
4. Windows 95
5. Windows 2000
6. Windows XP SP1 / SP2
Meaning of these color :
- Orchid : Can run without any simulated platform, overclock, and flashing things. That means it's was "firstly there, and always there"
- Dark Green : Need a simulated platform, but no need to overclock and flashing things. That means it's was "secondly there and maybe there"
- Light Green : Need a tougher simulated platform, need a overclock feature + kernel. That means it's was "maybe there, and sometime there"

So give him Java, symbian, bada and meego. Just joking
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Ubuntu Phone

I'm not sure if anyone's seen the news lately, but apparently Canonical is putting out a mobile version of its Ubuntu OS. I've seen the whitepapers so far and it looks promising (assuming it ever gets traction).
Assuming that the phone OS is open-source like its desktop counterpart, does anyone think we could possibly build ubuntu phone to work with kexec and safestrap 3?

Cant you download ububtu on the app market?
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Atrixn00b said:
Cant you download ububtu on the app market?
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what you're referring to, is running ubuntu on top of the existing android system
what Canonical wants, is a phone that runs only ubuntu, no android base layer (*insert Canonical's claims about how java is too memory bloated, and mobile OSs should run C/C++)

Possibly, yes. Depends on how it is ubuntu is implemented fully though, however.
If it can easily can replace the android framework and go on top of our existing kernel, then yes.
If it requires specific kernel edits, possibly, depending on how much work is involved.
But with current kexec kernel issues, it probably would not be worth it until they get sorted out

jarveson said:
Possibly, yes. Depends on how it is ubuntu is implemented fully though, however.
If it can easily can replace the android framework and go on top of our existing kernel, then yes.
If it requires specific kernel edits, possibly, depending on how much work is involved.
But with current kexec kernel issues, it probably would not be worth it until they get sorted out
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From what I've read it's compatible with most Android kernels.

From what I understand, android was written over the Linux 2 kernel. You would think that there wouldn't be much of a difference, just adapt the drivers, but then again operating system implementation isn't my area of expertise.
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mkglitzman said:
From what I understand, android was written over the Linux 2 kernel. You would think that there wouldn't be much of a difference, just adapt the drivers, but then again operating system implementation isn't my area of expertise.
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I believe newer devices run on the 3.0 kernel
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Endoroid said:
I believe newer devices run on the 3.0 kernel
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Yes kexec is 3.0.31 i think

I don't see why it wouldn't work, having kexec we can bypass the locked bootloader situation, unless maybe it needs a gig of RAM, otherwise if a developer takes it up I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be able to come to our good ole 3.
And yes the current kexec kernel is 3.0.31 but yet again it can be updated or changed.

I wonder if Ubuntu won't loose most of it's usability on our tiny touchscreens... I used to use an HTC Universal with a few directly ported DOS-games. The tiny screen and the touchscreen instead of a mouse made them quite hard to control. And not even having a stylo will make it even harder to controll, I guess.

Dakkaron said:
I wonder if Ubuntu won't loose most of it's usability on our tiny touchscreens... I used to use an HTC Universal with a few directly ported DOS-games. The tiny screen and the touchscreen instead of a mouse made them quite hard to control. And not even having a stylo will make it even harder to controll, I guess.
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It's not the desktop ui but a new mobile ui
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Yeah the GUI is a new mobile build but it does have elements of unity like the desktop

Fedora F19 on Nexus 4!

Yep thats right try it here
Mako only for now
NOTE: have a network connection, preferably WiFi.. on first boot, it will try to install X11, gnome-desktop (!),

sound s really interesting thanks a lot for the info

What is this if you don't mind me asking?
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blankit said:
What is this if you don't mind me asking?
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Basically this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki.

Can you post some screenshots.?
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hubba
uh... well (from softpedia)
"Owners of unlocked Google Nexus 4 smartphones out there can now get a taste of a new Linux OS for their devices, as a Fedora 19 installer is now available for download for them.
The software enables them to easily install Fedora 19 for ARM on this Google phone, though it should be noted that this is not an official Fedora Linux project.
As phoronix notes, the installer comes from Rob Clark, who has been working on enriching the Freedreno Gallium3D graphics driver, and who used the Qualcomm A320 graphics in Nexus 4 for that.
The Fedora 19 installer that he wrote in the process is now available for download on GitHub as freedreno/nexus4-fedora, but might not receive support moving forth.
For enthusiasts, however, it might prove an interesting software to take for a spin on a Nexus 4, that’s for sure."
So, if you know Ubuntu touch preview - you know what this is
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Sounds quite interesting
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Screenshots?
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Anybody run it? install-rootfs not work for me

I'd love to hear some feedback on this before installing
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brwetz said:
I'd love to hear some feedback on this before installing
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can't get read-write on device, have root and can mount rootfs as rw in explorer but can' get it in adb shell

This is really interesting. I'm a long term Fedora user, and I've just bought a Nexus 4 with the intent of installing cyanmod on it. But for various reasons I would like to run a full Linux distro.
So my first question is this: Is there a phone app and a sms app available for any Linux distro? The closest thing I could find is gnokii, but it isn't for on the phone its self (at least that is my understanding). Would I have to write the phone app myself?
My second question is: Does it run well? (I mean Fedora on the Nexus 4) Or do need to find that out myself?
Thank you,
Christopher
PS. I've been searching the internet all day to try and answer these questions.

Doesn't chroot/ loop device not work on 4.3?
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cjb_ said:
This is really interesting. I'm a long term Fedora user, and I've just bought a Nexus 4 with the intent of installing cyanmod on it. But for various reasons I would like to run a full Linux distro.
So my first question is this: Is there a phone app and a sms app available for any Linux distro? The closest thing I could find is gnokii, but it isn't for on the phone its self (at least that is my understanding). Would I have to write the phone app myself?
My second question is: Does it run well? (I mean Fedora on the Nexus 4) Or do need to find that out myself?
Thank you,
Christopher
PS. I've been searching the internet all day to try and answer these questions.
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From what I gather from reading the README on github. This is NOT a ROM (not even close). This is absolutely not something to use instead of cyanogenmod, stock android, etc. And although I don't know positively (have not googled), I would guess no, there is not a phone or sms app for a desktop that is going to work. Not to mention how many other key components needed to make this a working android substitute.
What it is, is a kernel (a Fedora based kernel instead of an Android kernel). And you don't even flash the kernel... you load it and run it temporarily through adb. And then the installer will download and run an x11 display server (instead of the android surface_flinger server), and a Gnome desktop and other parts of Fedora.
It's not something that's ready for use as a phone OS. Far from it. It is just the beginnings of a start (though mad props are in order).
If you've tried the latest Ubuntu touch preview... and seen all of what's NOT ready in that project... then understand that this Fedora project is not even close to that stage of development yet.

Hi,
has anyone tried it recently?
It did not boot for me and got stuck at the "Google" logo.
ADB was working, but without wifi it is useless.
Regards
user