I have been trying to repair this phone, but the usual faults have not turned out to be the problem. This is the background on the repair efforts:
In my research I found 3 main causes for a dead touch screen.
1) Corruption of system software.
2) Failure of digitizer cable (hinge FPC)
3) Failure of digitizer screen (touch panel)
To check for #1, I flashed the firmware again (after a wipe). I downgraded to Android 1.5 because I wanted to root the phone and install CyanogenMod Android 2.2 Froyo.
This was a big mistake because I learned that when you don't have a working touch screen, you cannot get past the "Touch the Android to Start" screen.
So on to step 2 - replace cable (hinge FPC). I have a G1 parts phone that was lightly used in good condition before it was damaged. There was no damage to the sliding section, so I expected the hinge FPC to be in good condition.
So I installed the hinge assembly with its hinge FPC from the parts phone, but this did not work either.
So next I installed a new touch panel (digitizer screen), but that did not fix the problem either.
I had a chance to borrow a working G1 motherboard, and I was surprised to see that the phone was working with the borrowed motherboard.
So my question is whether my problem motherboard can be recovered with a software solution, or if these symptoms indicate a hardware failure.
I thought that a wipe followed by firmware flash would eliminate all soft system errors, but I am not sure if the wipe and flash really erase absolutely everything, or if there is something else I need to do to get it working again.
Thanks.
more than likly it was the point in the motherboard where the flex cable connects. try using some electronic parts cleaner.
i have ran into this a few times and simply replacing the motherboard has only helped a twice, when i cleaned it up it worked.
That sounds reasonable. I still have some Tweek. I'll give that a try. It worked with the same kinds of problems on computer sockets.
Okay. You are on the right track. When I went back to the phone, I actually got two taps out of the screen, which it hasn't done in a long, long time. (I was running keyboard only for a long time before I could take it down to fix it.) I attribute that to just disturbing the contacts with so many assembly/disassembly efforts.
After I applied Tweek to the joints, it ran well.... for about an hour. Trying again was no luck, so I don't think I'm going to mess with the contacts anymore. By the time you figure how infrequently motherboards come up for sale and the cost, I think I'd do just as well with a trade in on a flat-rate repair.
But at least now we know for the record that there is another cause of dead touch screens.
well i have about 13 motherboards, if your interested let me know
Thanks. What has been your experience with changing motherboards?
The reason I ask is because the service manual wants the phone to be tuned again after a motherboard swap. I see a lot of people changing motherboards, and I can't believe that is much of a problem when you don't see anyone complaining about the phone not working well afterwards.
A spare motherboard might be a good idea for a diagnostic tool. It would have saved me a lot of work changing the touch panel and cables if I would have had a motherboard to try first.
I thought I had a good spare in a damaged phone, but when I took it out the other day to test this phone, I found out it had physical damage too. The SIM holder and RF shielding were dented, but the killer was that the daughterboard cable connector was bent.
I suppose back when the phones were $900 you might try to fix something like that, but it's hard enough to do a connector swap on a computer motherboard. I can't imagine that even the factory has the equipment to properly swap the connector even if you can get the part.
How much do you want for a motherboard? On that famous auction site I've seen them go for around $10 to $30. I could kick myself for not buying the last one I saw at $7 because I thought I had a spare.
I replaced all the flex cable with mic and buttons of my samsung galaxy s i9000, cause i damaged it during a display replacement.
Display now works fine but, left and right button not.
Central button also works fine.
can anyone help me to understand what is gone wrong?
Thanks
samsung GT-I9000 mic flex cable
andrea72rm said:
I replaced all the flex cable with mic and buttons of my samsung galaxy s i9000, cause i damaged it during a display replacement.
Display now works fine but, left and right button not.
Central button also works fine.
can anyone help me to understand what is gone wrong?
Thanks
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Hello Andrea72,
What has happened if that you have torn though the flex cable going to the buttons contact pads this can only be fixed by replacing them. To do this you'll need to strip down the phone and remove the old and replace with a new one these can be found on such site like ebay, all sounds great, however to remove this part is more difficult has it's stuck down with some pretty impressive glue. I'm in the some situation as your self good luck.
Thaaquin
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Hello Andrea72,
What has happened if that you have torn though the flex cable going to the buttons contact pads this can only be fixed by replacing them. To do this you'll need to strip down the phone and remove the old and replace with a new one these can be found on such site like ebay, all sounds great, however to remove this part is more difficult has it's stuck down with some pretty impressive glue. I'm in the some situation as your self good luck.
Thaaquin
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Just a quick update i have finally received my part form china and going to attempt to replace it at the weekend, I'll try and document this and post if I am successful.
Did you manage to replace that part? My microphone is broken, so I want to replace the same part as you guys. Did you use a guide? If yes, can you post a link?
I've recently replaced the bezel on my phone and in the process broke the ribbon between the two hardware buttons. I ordered a new one and swapped them over with what I thought was no problem. The keypad note works but now the microphone has stopped working entirely. Could this be a software issue (I do doubt this) as I'm on a stable version of CM10? All the connections are linked up and everything looks fine. This one has me completely baffled
open it up again and check the antenna cable again. Maybe it isn't inserted correctly?
That's a good point. I accidentally crushed the antenna cable but wasn't aware that it was relevant when considering the microphone. The rest of the phone works fine including the mobile signal. May have to link up my old mic just to check this
Aargh! It turns out that the old mic is still working so the new one appears to be the issue. Hmmm, wonder what gets a better resale value a phone with no working buttons or one with no working mic *sigh*
well I changed once front bezel from SGS1, too. Still have the old one. Maybe just buy a new parts? I think those don't cost a lot. Whole front bezel cost about ~100e.
I think after this poor attempt to repair the phone I'm gonna put the device up for sale
Hi,
I really need your help as I have no idea what to do.
After 1 month of using MI5 Pro Ceramic black I have broke my phone,First the touch worked and there was only vertical lines on the lcd in the spot of the shatter so I could operate but due to my stupidity and of force touching the broken glass these vertical lines started to cover all the screen (Everything worked well on the phone..Sound,Camera and etc..)
So I ordered from Aliexpress LCD + Touch screen for about 70$ (Included DHL Express shipment)
When I got the screen I started to disassamble the phone.. Got everything out,Took out the broken screen and pasted the new screen on the frame (Must say all these aliexpress screens are really bad,0% protection on the screen,Not sure about the LCD quality yet but glass is horrible..Started to scratch even before I used it)
Anyways to our point..
Started to assamble back everything.. Powered on the phone and Yay! Phone is working but...
No Sound,Firstly I checked settings and everything..Ran CIT test and everything that belongs to audio giving force close..
Calibrate Speaker PA test results : State-Get impedance failed!,Speaker Vendor-None
Vibration- FAIL no short and no long
Main mic speaker Feedback,Simulation call test,Front mic speaker feedback test,Top mic speaker feedback test,
everything when I enter it giving FC with that details :
"IlegalStateException:Unable to retrieve AudioRecord pointer for SetParameters() blablala...
Headphone mic feedback test (Called on an uninitialized AudioRecord)
So in short..
No Speaker,No Mic,No headphone Mic..
Now my question is what I need to do from now.. Its not firmware/software problem for sure as before I disassambled the phone everything worked well..
My first guess was the problem is on the Sub PCB but then I asked my self..If the USB-C is working and WiFI antenna giving full signal it means the Sub PCB works so what the hell is the problem? I really hope its not something in the PCB it self as it means throw everything to garbage.. ;<
Hope to hear suggests..
I thought to order the MI5 32GB Black version take out the Main PCB put the Pro Main PCB and put also the ceramic back cover but that I would do only if I know that the problem is from the sub PCB but if Headphone mic doesnt work (Which the Main PCB take care of) then its probably in the Main PCB??
Please help!
you didnt damage the pins on the press connector? is the press connector on the ribbon cable flush / fully inserted ? Are you sure you didnt kink the ribbon cable?
I haven't pulled a mi5 apart, but can only assume its like every other phone i have.
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you didnt damage the pins on the press connector? is the press connector on the ribbon cable flush / fully inserted ? Are you sure you didnt kink the ribbon cable?
I haven't pulled a mi5 apart, but can only assume its like every other phone i have.
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The problem is that far as I understood of how the mi5 built and from how I saw it looks like..The Speaker located in the Sub PCB cover,Vibrate connected to subPCB,And all the SubPCB connected with the cable to the main PCB and I checked it connected good and no any damaged pins from what I was able to see..If there was damaged pins then the phone wont get charged as the USB-C wont be connected as it located in the SubPCB however it does work.. So I really have no idea what cause it..
Also the Headphone mic doesnt work in the tests..Anything related to Audio giving that FC with "AudioRecord" error..
I really must to know what causing it so I will know what to do ;<
Little update,
Just connected a bluetooth speaker,No any sound nothing..
Hi everyone! My MI5 has the same problems, no sound, mic, vibration, led buttons light, plugin earphones without notification's icon, can not play music, video offline and online video (Youtube, Facebook, live stream ..). It was happened when i replaced brooken screen. The first time when I turn on, evetything ok, I can play music through speaker, but now everything has gone..! Plz tell me how to slove this problem! Sorry for my poor E!
Hi, I ended up on buying the phone again... It's impossible to fix that problem as probably you did what I did and didn't place the motherboard correctly so a little bent probably happened and that cause to the problem.
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Hi, I ended up on buying the phone again... It's impossible to fix that problem as probably you did what I did and didn't place the motherboard correctly so a little bent probably happened and that cause to the problem.
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Hi there! Care to elaborate a little more? I have also the same problem. I was replacing the rear camera module while the module I had received was broken to begin with. I hadn't really figured this out initially and I tried several times to attach it and test it, perhaps move the flex and retest, and at some I remember I found out the vibration was not there, but didn't pay attention to it as everything was open, until I found out the camera module was faulty in the end, and subsequently discovered also the whole issue with sound/vibration/key backlight etc. Instead of buying a new device, I was thinking to try and fix it, but still I'm a bit unsure about what the problem really was. From what I could figure, I didn't do anything different this particular time the audio/vibration didn't work, with respect to the previous times I attached and detached the motherboard. But is it definitely the board itself and not its flex connecting it to the sub-pcb? Could it be the sub-pcb itself or even both this and the board? In case I buy a new board (perhaps together with a sub-pcb just in case) to replace it which part should I watch out for, not to damage it again. Sorry for the many questions but you seem to be the only source of info for this specific problem.
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Hi there! Care to elaborate a little more? I have also the same problem. I was replacing the rear camera module while the module I had received was broken to begin with. I hadn't really figured this out initially and I tried several times to attach it and test it, perhaps move the flex and retest, and at some I remember I found out the vibration was not there, but didn't pay attention to it as everything was open, until I found out the camera module was faulty in the end, and subsequently discovered also the whole issue with sound/vibration/key backlight etc. Instead of buying a new device, I was thinking to try and fix it, but still I'm a bit unsure about what the problem really was. From what I could figure, I didn't do anything different this particular time the audio/vibration didn't work, with respect to the previous times I attached and detached the motherboard. But is it definitely the board itself and not its flex connecting it to the sub-pcb? Could it be the sub-pcb itself or even both this and the board? In case I buy a new board (perhaps together with a sub-pcb just in case) to replace it which part should I watch out for, not to damage it again. Sorry for the many questions but you seem to be the only source of info for this specific problem.
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Hi sorry for late answer,I barley visit xda these times..
After I bought the MI5 again this time in the 64gb version I tested the old 128gb motherboard (The main one) and still same problem with Vibration/Sound (While all sensors work camera too)
Which means its not the sub-pcb problem,Its the main motherboard for sure,Now what cause it?
In my opinion when I pulled of the motherboard to put it on the new screen I insert it in a bad way which made it bent a little and probably the place I bent is where the audio and all the stuff goes on..
I'm pretty sure we cant really do something about that problem as problem related to motherboard it self are usually not fixable,But if you find something I will glad to get a feedback to test on my own bad motherboard so maybe I can back to the 128gb version ;| but I doubt it..
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Hi sorry for late answer,I barley visit xda these times..
After I bought the MI5 again this time in the 64gb version I tested the old 128gb motherboard (The main one) and still same problem with Vibration/Sound (While all sensors work camera too)
Which means its not the sub-pcb problem,Its the main motherboard for sure,Now what cause it?
In my opinion when I pulled of the motherboard to put it on the new screen I insert it in a bad way which made it bent a little and probably the place I bent is where the audio and all the stuff goes on..
I'm pretty sure we cant really do something about that problem as problem related to motherboard it self are usually not fixable,But if you find something I will glad to get a feedback to test on my own bad motherboard so maybe I can back to the 128gb version ;| but I doubt it..
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Many thanks for the response! It sheds a little light indeed. I also ordered another phone to replace it as the cost of the motherboard seems to be equal approximately close to a new device. I'm with you, in the same view, I also once placed the motherboard quickly in the chassis without the screw that holds it together, in one of the 50 or so attempts to try and make the camera sensor I was replacing, visible to the OS, and this looseness was the unfortunate one perhaps (?). I too don't expect the sound to work again. I just wanted to double check the issue was not with the sub-pcb, which I did thanks to you. For sure I have no hopes for the mainboard to work again, but still, what keeps me from being certain it is actually the sound card that is the problem, is a very similar case I saw In a foreign forum, and also clues from my device which support the argument that the mainboard might have entered in a kind of diagnostic boot state due to a hardware fault that was apparent, where either some components are not initialized during boot, or their HW resources are taken over from the diag. ports and irqs that are enabled, in which case the issue can perhaps be fixed. For sure whenever I find a good deal on a new motherboard I will replace it, to keep it as a secondary phone, as I liked it quite a bit, but It would be interesting to see if this hypothesis holds or not. Anyway thanks again for the response!
Hi,
I've bought used mi5 with broken screen. After LCD replacement I've found that that phone has problem with sound. Exactly the same as in this thread - no sound, mic, vibration, led buttons light, plugin earphones without notification's icon, can't play music, video offline and online video (Youtube).
Someone already did LCD replacement on this phone and probably done something.
But what I discovered on this phone that problem start when battery charge aprox more then 60%.
I did flash one year old ROM via fastboot ( just to verify if it not the ROM problem) and after that everything was fine ( battery level 50%).
I did hardware test - passed 100% fine.
But when I did charge till 100% the problem come back.
That's really interesting finding... Can you tell me the same steps you did like which rom you flashed and all of that? I will check it with my dead phone maybe if I will have the same thing like you we can point on something...
mi5 lcd replaced touch not working
I bought a mi5 mobile in singapore. My display was damaged. I changed many display in india (checked in many shop). only work display (lcd). Touch not respose. please some one give solution. thank you
have same problem with op
my phone get damaged by water so im rush turn it off and open everything then go to dry it... and problem with speaker etc doesnt work just like op please help i really doesnt have money to buy new phone this month
Exactly same problem with me, just replaced the rear camera and the problem occurs
No sound, no vibration, nav led not working at all, playing video not working
Even playing sound via bluetooth speaker not working too
I believe there is something wrong with the mainboard
can anyone point out which part of the mainboard responsible for the lower board?
The lower board works well though, I tested it using other mainboard
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Exactly same problem with me, just replaced the rear camera and the problem occurs
No sound, no vibration, nav led not working at all, playing video not working
Even playing sound via bluetooth speaker not working too
I believe there is something wrong with the mainboard
can anyone point out which part of the mainboard responsible for the lower board?
The lower board works well though, I tested it using other mainboard
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For me the problem was that after the screen replacement (It may also apply to you after you replaced the rear camera..)
When I put back he main motherboard it wasnt sat properly,I put it beneath a small plastic holder and when I closed everything and screw and all..Problem appeared and when I rechecked motherboard I found out it got bent in the right down side and that's probably what killed all the sensors,sound and everything..
Of course that what happend to me..There is plenty of other reasons that may cause to what you experience..
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For me the problem was that after the screen replacement (It may also apply to you after you replaced the rear camera..)
When I put back he main motherboard it wasnt sat properly,I put it beneath a small plastic holder and when I closed everything and screw and all..Problem appeared and when I rechecked motherboard I found out it got bent in the right down side and that's probably what killed all the sensors,sound and everything..
Of course that what happend to me..There is plenty of other reasons that may cause to what you experience..
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I believe the chip or something similar, that control the sensor, led, vibration etc, was broken because we put it the wrong way
now we need to find which chip it is and replace it
which part of the right down? near the signal cable?
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I believe the chip or something similar, that control the sensor, led, vibration etc, was broken because we put it the wrong way
now we need to find which chip it is and replace it
which part of the right down? near the signal cable?
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If you just checked and saw you put it wrong as I did,On the little plastic which made a little bent then I guess you lost..I would just buy new motherboard on aliexpress or just give up and buy a new phone..
As you cant really know (I mean from our side..) if its a chip related there or if its the bent it self which made problem on the connection on the board it self..
And yes I was speaking about the right side near the signal cable where you need to install the motherboard from that side where there is a little plastic like holding the motherboard..When I did the reinstall by not checking I put the motherboard on that plastic and after I closed everything and all screws got back I discovered that problem..
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If you just checked and saw you put it wrong as I did,On the little plastic which made a little bent then I guess you lost..I would just buy new motherboard on aliexpress or just give up and buy a new phone..
As you cant really know (I mean from our side..) if its a chip related there or if its the bent it self which made problem on the connection on the board it self..
And yes I was speaking about the right side near the signal cable where you need to install the motherboard from that side where there is a little plastic like holding the motherboard..When I did the reinstall by not checking I put the motherboard on that plastic and after I closed everything and all screws got back I discovered that problem..
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yeah, it means it's the same mistake as mine, that little metal thing that hold the motherboard, I forgot to eject the sim card tray and when I pull my main board it was stuck, got a little bent from there
Just wonder if anyone have the schematic for mi5 mainboard, since I'm curious and want to find a way to repair it
Not because I'm in despair of needing a phone, this MI5 is my secondary phone
Just because of the curiousity, that's all
edi--
found the schematic here
https://data.dendik.id/Data/Schematic/Xiaomi/Mi5_SM.rar
now on the journey to repair this stupid mistake, lol
any help from someone who are an expert in this thing will be really appreaciated
codearm2 said:
yeah, it means it's the same mistake as mine, that little metal thing that hold the motherboard, I forgot to eject the sim card tray and when I pull my main board it was stuck, got a little bent from there
Just wonder if anyone have the schematic for mi5 mainboard, since I'm curious and want to find a way to repair it
Not because I'm in despair of needing a phone, this MI5 is my secondary phone
Just because of the curiousity, that's all
edi--
found the schematic here
https://data.dendik.id/Data/Schematic/Xiaomi/Mi5_SM.rar
now on the journey to repair this stupid mistake, lol
any help from someone who are an expert in this thing will be really appreaciated
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ok bruh im already do some fking around and do ic audio replacement but no hope its still broke even my repair guy who are ex xiaomi worker are give up the problem is looks like from cpu its self but there was something interesting if u try download device info hw app in google play there was warning that the device cant read sys or something cuz it was blocked and when u look at audio chipset its was gone
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ok bruh im already do some fking around and do ic audio replacement but no hope its still broke even my repair guy who are ex xiaomi worker are give up the problem is looks like from cpu its self but there was something interesting if u try download device info hw app in google play there was warning that the device cant read sys or something cuz it was blocked and when u look at audio chipset its was gone
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Yeah, tried it before, and the audio chip is gone
Perhaps something wrong with the audio chip, will try to replace the IC tomorrow
Hi there,
I am having some issues with my Z3C and thinking of doing a repair myself.
A few months ago the first issue started, still present: the bottom bar buttons (back, home, apps) require extra pressure. This was probably my fault as I might have bent it a bit during cleaning, resulting in this damage (not that strong of a bent, but somehow it screwed it).
The second problem started yesterday, after a bit of rain I have now the full second digitizer column from left completely dead (tested with service menu).
So I was wondering, has any of you already gone through the process and can give me some indications? Ideally I would replace only the digitizer, but I hear it's better to buy it bundled with the LCD as making them match tight is always the very complex part of the job?
Please also share links with parts that worked for you, I am thinking of buying the part from US or China (but would like OEM/original).
Thanks
I have found these parts:
http://www.witrigs.com/oem-lcd-with-digitizer-for-sony-xperia-z3-black
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Xperia-compact-Display-Digitizer-Replacement/dp/B0148JVO9E
https://www.replacebase.co.uk/sony-xperia-z3-compact-replacement-lcd-touch-screen-assembly-black/
As I understand OEM does not mean supplied by Sony but rather should have the same parts with same specs..but of course it will not have 100% :cyclops:
I would like to know if somebody has replaced it already and what is their experience; I am not going for digitizer only but digitizer+LCD
I have a similar issue on my Z3C. My entire middle row is non-touch responsive.
Did you manage to repair your phone? Was it worth the hassel?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73793022&postcount=19
Here you go, to avoid writing everything again, I've posted this in other thread, still using that screen, and happy with it.