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As we all note kitkat has been out for 2 days
My quick impression is that it isn't good
LAAAAAG in launcher (Not Lockscreen nor apps) (GPU Rendering isn'T very effective)
Battery is being killed
Camera seems to worse in low light condition (Will post an comparason later) and slower
No update for the stock apps (Xperia blog has those)
Post your Impressions below How do you feel
Update:In NUT's recovery don't enter TeamWinRecovery for me it caused an refuse boot
had to connect in download mode (Without flashing anything)
Opening PhilzTouch recovery and booted from there to system
I find it quite responsive after the initial lag in the settings menu and bad battery life.
What's really annoying me though is that I can't find a tweak which enables expanded desktop properly. Despite KitKat apparently natively supporting expanded desktop mode, Gravity Box for some reason doesn't want to work properly. It worked perfectly in 4.2.2. So I'm hoping someone can make a working version.
Another test
if you use the voice message of FB Messenger your mic gets locked
and you will have to restart your Phone to make it work
i've had kit kat for two days now on my xperia zr no root, locked bootloader. I have no lags, everything works quick just like 4,3. The only issue is that google play services drains battery like crazy (at this very moment is on 87% on battery use ) :/
There is an xposed mod
Called Force imersive mode try it
John98Zakaria said:
Another test
if you use the voice message of FB Messenger your mic gets locked
and you will have to restart your Phone to make it work
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^
THIS.... the one single reason for me to revert back to CM11
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THIS.... the one single reason for me to revert back to CM11
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What Rom? I am thinking of switching ?
Carbon or BeanStack ?
kitkat
I don't see/feel any problems on my C5503
running smooth
Any Major difference in terms of functionality between 4.4 and 4.3 except the Theme Color? If not I'll stick with 4.3 itself:victory:.
Also Please provide the Walkman, Gallery and Movies APP Version in 4.4
I'm kinda surprised with all ur reviews here coz I don't have any lag issues whatsoever.
I'm using a prerooted version of .230 on my C5502.
The phone is responsive, I got a decent antutu score of around 21225 and the battery barely drains.. I had a perfectly flat battery graph for abt 4 n a half hours (of course I wasn't using the phone but that also means it's going into the appropriate power mode effectively). And even when I was using it, I got a decent full day of use out of it.
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TOO ALL WITH LAG ISSUES!
wipe data after upgrade! it's a most do!
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What Rom? I am thinking of switching ?
Carbon or BeanStack ?
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Carbon is good but Mokee is officially supported and offers much better functions IMO eg. split screen screen recording and awesome handy shortcuts from the recents menu... i am using stock 4.4.2 sony for now but i am already missing Mokee..
in any case if you want to move back to cm/asop/akop i would recommend Mokee but don't get me wrong i still love Carbon Rom.
I think i'm getting 20% less battery time on sony kk
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camileind said:
i've had kit kat for two days now on my xperia zr no root, locked bootloader. I have no lags, everything works quick just like 4,3. The only issue is that google play services drains battery like crazy (at this very moment is on 87% on battery use ) :/
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I noticed lag and heating issues at first install but if you leave it for a while it seems like it fixes itself.. I would say it uses about 20% more battery than maybe a cm rom..
At first I thought that being with my own home made rooted version was the cause of the lag. In the z forum I read about wiping data and factory reset and also reboot a couple of times. I have to say that the lag is gone. I like the Kitkat version so far. I even made it deodexed and put z2 app in the app folder even that works. So if you can find the new updated apps it is possible to get them working.
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I Reflashed with Flashtool With Wipe Data
and then a system restore Everything is fine now (Even without touching GPU rendering)
early morning rant
How do I feel?
Honestly, as free beta tester for Google that's how.
I'm not even considering updating to stock KK, yet. Would rather move to some fine working custom ROM like Carbon (need to check first if VPN is working) or CM.
- It used to be, flash stock, one-touch root and voila.
- Now, it's TA backup, BL unlock/relock, flash, recovery, flash, flash, tweak this, mod that, xposed, gpu render, battery drain, oh lag, oh camera is slower, oh more emoticons, OH COME ON!!
I know it's not Sony fault but those hipsters from Google.
With killing external SD support, at the end and in the future, it smells that stock Android will work flawlessly ONLY on Google hardware. That's a pure BS.
You mean Mobiles with no SD card*
Yeah, basically all Nexuses, mob/tab. Good read here
I think it helps to keep product life cycle short. The Apple philosophy.
Okay, after a few days use I'm getting major lag when unlocking the phone. When I input my pattern, the phone responds with the vibrations like 3 seconds later, and THEN it unlocks. After that it's completely fine, and feels a lot snappier than 4.2.2. Does anyone else have the same problem?
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Okay, after a few days use I'm getting major lag when unlocking the phone. When I input my pattern, the phone responds with the vibrations like 3 seconds later, and THEN it unlocks. After that it's completely fine, and feels a lot snappier than 4.2.2. Does anyone else have the same problem?
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Mine is great here
I have pattern and unlock it is very fast. no lag at all.
My phone 5502 is working flawlessly. No lag and no battery drain. didn't want to root so i don't risk loosing my apps and data. i upgrade directly by flashing an ftf file over 4.3 with flashtool and no wipe.
I got my phone about a month ago. I updated the software to 4.4.2 kitkat released by sony. It's not rooted. This problem occured yesterday for the first time. When I call someone or someone calls me, the earphone doesn't work. I don' hear anything. When I run earphone test in Service tests, it works fine. The problem is fixed when I reboot the phone. But I can not reboot the phone everytime. It happened once yesterday and next time now. I am so pissed off. This is my first sony phone and so far I am very dissapointed. My audio jack flap is opening by its self and as I can see a lot of people complain about it. I hope this can be fixed
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I got my phone about a month ago. I updated the software to 4.4.2 kitkat released by sony. It's not rooted. This problem occured yesterday for the first time. When I call someone or someone calls me, the earphone doesn't work. I don' hear anything. When I run earphone test in Service tests, it works fine. The problem is fixed when I reboot the phone. But I can not reboot the phone everytime. It happened once yesterday and next time now. I am so pissed off. This is my first sony phone and so far I am very dissapointed. My audio jack flap is opening by its self and as I can see a lot of people complain about it. I hope this can be fixed
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Hi, is there any particular reason why you want to keep using stock firmware and not to root?
If not might I suggest rooting and using a custom firmware, because in my experience custom firmware is much more reliable than the stock.
Its really quite easy to do and the phone seems to benefit from doing a clean install getting rid of any junk thats built up over time.
Good Luck!
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I got my phone about a month ago. I updated the software to 4.4.2 kitkat released by sony. It's not rooted. This problem occured yesterday for the first time. When I call someone or someone calls me, the earphone doesn't work. I don' hear anything. When I run earphone test in Service tests, it works fine. The problem is fixed when I reboot the phone. But I can not reboot the phone everytime. It happened once yesterday and next time now. I am so pissed off. This is my first sony phone and so far I am very dissapointed. My audio jack flap is opening by its self and as I can see a lot of people complain about it. I hope this can be fixed
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I recommend you to use SUS or Sony PC companion to "reinstall" FW i am not sure if this can help you but its better than sending it to repair center without trying anything. Good luck and don't forget to backup you data, etc.
Same Earphone problem
Hello, i have the same issue too. Every rom (stock based) i install, that use 4.4.2 have the same issue.
Its very annoying, have someone can resolve this?
I have, UB and at moment ExistenZ Rom
I just opened the forum to make a thread about this, as I'm facing the same problem and it can get really annoying.
Sometimes my phone works normally for 3-4 days, and then it just suddenly happens. Someone calls me, and I can't hear them, but they can hear me...and after I reboot it usually works.
I flashed the 4.4.2 UK Generic a few days ago, and now I face two different problems regarding calls : first one is like this, I can't hear people that are calling me, and the other is that sometimes I don't hear them for a few seconds and then I hear them again, and then again I can't during the call. Don't know if this is firmware based, I guess it is. If I can remember correctly 4.3 worked perfectly, as I got the phone already on 4.3 firmware.
Also Cyanogenmod has the same issue, as well as PAC-man (some versions of these ROMs, the ones I tried LOL) so I'm wondering could it be a hardware issue...what are your experiences? If someone can confirm that it is a firmware issue and that 4.3 doesn't have these problems, I might actually switch back because its annoying and the phone seems to be working better on 4.3, even though I love the transparent interface of Kitkat =)
Have a nice day guys, hope we will fix this issue !
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I just opened the forum to make a thread about this, as I'm facing the same problem and it can get really annoying.
Sometimes my phone works normally for 3-4 days, and then it just suddenly happens. Someone calls me, and I can't hear them, but they can hear me...and after I reboot it usually works.
I flashed the 4.4.2 UK Generic a few days ago, and now I face two different problems regarding calls : first one is like this, I can't hear people that are calling me, and the other is that sometimes I don't hear them for a few seconds and then I hear them again, and then again I can't during the call. Don't know if this is firmware based, I guess it is. If I can remember correctly 4.3 worked perfectly, as I got the phone already on 4.3 firmware.
Also Cyanogenmod has the same issue, as well as PAC-man (some versions of these ROMs, the ones I tried LOL) so I'm wondering could it be a hardware issue...what are your experiences? If someone can confirm that it is a firmware issue and that 4.3 doesn't have these problems, I might actually switch back because its annoying and the phone seems to be working better on 4.3, even though I love the transparent interface of Kitkat =)
Have a nice day guys, hope we will fix this issue !
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For me, only the stock based rom haver this issue, i haver tested omni rom and works normal
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For me, only the stock based rom haver this issue, i haver tested omni rom and works normal
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Thanks for the info. Haven't tried Omni ROM yet, I might. Can you just tell me did you have this issue on 4.3 ?
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Thanks for the info. Haven't tried Omni ROM yet, I might. Can you just tell me did you have this issue on 4.3 ?
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In 4.3 stock, the earphone seems work well, but i want 4.4, and for some time it worked
Hi there
I'm having exactly the same issue on 4.4 (existenz ultimate)
I can confirm once I had this issue on stock 4.3 rom as well (existenz 7). I installed Soundabout app and it fixed the issue somehow, and i never experienced the problem until yesterday (on 4.4) . I again installed soundabout, it worked for some time, but now earphone doesn't work again. It's really frustrating! According to service test it's not a hardware problem. But could sony engineers make the same mistake twice (both in 4.3 and 4.4)?
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Hi there
I'm having exactly the same issue on 4.4 (existenz ultimate)
I can confirm once I had this issue on stock 4.3 rom as well (existenz 7). I installed Soundabout app and it fixed the issue somehow, and i never experienced the problem until yesterday (on 4.4) . I again installed soundabout, it worked for some time, but now earphone doesn't work again. It's really frustrating! According to service test it's not a hardware problem. But could sony engineers make the same mistake twice (both in 4.3 and 4.4)?
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thats exactly same situatiom i have
So, are you positive its not a hardware issue? I sure hope that Sony is going to fix this and all the other Kitkat problems they've had with this new update that got certified (10.A.5.1.283)..Its probably going to be 4.4.4 and the last update for Xperia Z, as Android L is probably reserved for newer phones and Sony won't get anything from supporting the update for the original Z.
I really like Kitkat but if this earphone bug is related to Sony's Kitkat update and the next version doesn't fix it, I'm sure I'll get back to 4.3, as its really frustrating when you need to make an important call, or if you're in a hurry about something and your phone doesn't work...
If anyone knows the cause of this or is certain that it is related to specific firmwares please help us out and write it here.
Greetings from Bosnia
Lets hope it will be fixed on 4.4.4
maybe i will try another stock firmawares, based on 4.4.2, just for know if its region firmware related
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Lets hope it will be fixed on 4.4.4
maybe i will try another stock firmawares, based on 4.4.2, just for know if its region firmware related
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i just flased the 4.4.4 and its the same problem again
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amar92 said:
So, are you positive its not a hardware issue? I sure hope that Sony is going to fix this and all the other Kitkat problems they've had with this new update that got certified (10.A.5.1.283)..Its probably going to be 4.4.4 and the last update for Xperia Z, as Android L is probably reserved for newer phones and Sony won't get anything from supporting the update for the original Z.
I really like Kitkat but if this earphone bug is related to Sony's Kitkat update and the next version doesn't fix it, I'm sure I'll get back to 4.3, as its really frustrating when you need to make an important call, or if you're in a hurry about something and your phone doesn't work...
If anyone knows the cause of this or is certain that it is related to specific firmwares please help us out and write it here.
Greetings from Bosnia
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i try existenz v7 and have the same problem, but its based on 4.3, and stock 4.3 work fine to me, so i think maybe is something related to 4.4 sony framework
hello, i have tested lots off roms and the problem is ther on almost 4.4 rom. the Free Xperia rom, not have this problem.
i was thinking is there is some app that can manually disble the 3.5mm jack is on solution, but i not find that for 4.4
lets keep trying
I'm on stock .230 and never had this problem...
Sent from my C6603
I'm getting really mixed reviews for the lollipop update lately. Some love it, some hate it, some haven't even gotten it. I'm just curious towards the majority of opinions for the new update. So, should we or should we not update?
For me, it was great. Everything worked fine and you get the awesomeness of Android Lollipop. I've seem some people with problems with Xposed, but I don't use that.
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For me, it was great. Everything worked fine and you get the awesomeness of Android Lollipop. I've seem some people with problems with Xposed, but I don't use that.
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Have you noticed any performance problems? Like slow menus or animations? I myself don't have the update, but that's a common problem I hear.
I tried it for short, but it was quite somewhat laggy and not as fast as I am now used to have on custom roms.
But I am interested what other users got to say
Lollipop and KitKat from LG both has terrible RAM management. I had to restart my phone every 48h to stop it from restarting my apps.
Besides that it's quite a good ROM. Very stable, bug free. Workes much faster than KitKat.
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Have you noticed any performance problems? Like slow menus or animations? I myself don't have the update, but that's a common problem I hear.
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No, to me, it's faster than kitkat, but that might be because I flashed the kdz then reset the phone. I don't use CM because video recording doesn't work.
So after rooting my l90's I noticed my OTA updated one was at least 5 times slower than my offline updated ones. This is not an exaggeration, while installing an app, I was able to remove apps on my other phone, and install the same app, before the app finally installed on the OTA updated phone. That's just the start, menus are slower and there is tons of lag. I'm not sure exactly if it's the OTA that is the issue, but all of my l90s are at most a month old, and were purchased at the same time, so I doubt it's hardware. The firmware of the ota is identical to the offline updated, although I can't definitively determine if updating over the air is the issue because I only have one phone with the OTA. That being said I have also reflashed the same firmware with the offline method onto the ota, and it has made no changes.
Hi,
I have a Z3 Compact running pre-rooted Android 5.1.1 Lollipop. I got a notification about software update that i can't dismiss. i don't know if i should upgrade or not so force stopped the software update app.
What is your opinion about Marshmallow?
Are there any bugs?
Are there new features added and some features removed?
Is it worth upgrading to Mashmallow or should i keep Lollipop?
sorry i can't upgrade without user reviews
You can dismiss the update notification if you want (disable it).
MM has officially been out for only a few weeks and consequently is still full of bugs and problems.
The threads are full of the cries for help from the MM rom jumpers, oh the pain of being an early adopter.
Give it another month, by then it'll fixed.
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You can dismiss the update notification if you want (disable it).
MM has officially been out for only a few weeks and consequently is still full of bugs and problems.
The threads are full of the cries for help from the MM rom jumpers, oh the pain of being an early adopter.
Give it another month, by then it'll fixed.
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How do you disable the notification? For which app do I have to do that?
Dont update to Mm.. There is some feature that missed..like battery stamina/ultra stamina..and also the battery drain fast..
Im a z3 compact Mm user
+1 for don't do it (now)
For me I will stay for not specified time at LP (mainly because of custom kernel).
Didgesteve said:
You can dismiss the update notification if you want (disable it).
MM has officially been out for only a few weeks and consequently is still full of bugs and problems.
The threads are full of the cries for help from the MM rom jumpers, oh the pain of being an early adopter.
Give it another month, by then it'll fixed.
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Thanks. Is it safe to disable software update app?
i don't want unexpected bugs happen or boot loop
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Thanks. Is it safe to disable software update app?
i don't want unexpected bugs happen or boot loop
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The next time you see a notification, hold your finger on the notification and the bar will turn black and you will see an information 'i' on the right side, press this.
This will bring up the notification option.
Alternatively, go to settings\apps\scroll to the right until >all apps > 'update centre'
Then - force stop, untick notifications, clear cache/data
You won't get any more notifications about MM and no this won't harm or damage your phone in any way. Your phone will work fine on 5.1 for years and years, it doesn't need MM
Didgesteve said:
The next time you see a notification, hold your finger on the notification and the bar will turn black and you will see an information 'i' on the right side, press this.
This will bring up the notification option.
Alternatively, go to settings\apps\scroll to the right until >all apps > 'update centre'
Then - force stop, untick notifications, clear cache/data
You won't get any more notifications about MM and no this won't harm or damage your phone in any way. Your phone will work fine on 5.1 for years and years, it doesn't need MM
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Ok i just uninstall updates, force stop, and clear data, but i could not disable the notification.
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Ok i just uninstall updates, force stop, and clear data, but i could not disable the notification.
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If you have root, then go to the market and install ES Explorer
Open it, go to menu, look at the bottom 'tools'.
tick 'root explorer'
Go back to the top of the menu and find "home/device/system/app"
Look for "com.sonyericsson.updatecenter.apk"
Make a copy and save it somewhere, like Downloads.
Then delete the original in system/app.
If there is a problem you can always put the copy back in the folder, otherwise you will never get another update message again:good:
Didgesteve said:
If you have root, then go to the market and install ES Explorer
Open it, go to menu, look at the bottom 'tools'.
tick 'root explorer'
Go back to the top of the menu and find "home/device/system/app"
Look for "com.sonyericsson.updatecenter.apk"
Make a copy and save it somewhere, like Downloads.
Then delete the original in system/app.
If there is a problem you can always put the copy back in the folder, otherwise you will never get another update message again:good:
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Thanks. I just froze it using Titanium Backup
and i'm using X-plore with dual pane
Just like when Sony released 5.0 Lollipop, it was full of bugs and the battery life sucked. It wasn't until 5.1 came out that we finally got a usable ROM. Expect more of the same with MM. Wait until 6.1 is released before upgrading. Especially those who are not rooted. There's no fixes and no turning back for those users.
Sent from the only flagship device that can fit in my hand... Sony Experia Z3 Compact
Sorry to bring back an old thread but I just bought this phone secondhand and its on 5.1 and have received the update notification. Have the bugs that are in the above comments been fixed in 6.1 or is it still not worth upgrading to Marshmallow?
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Sorry to bring back an old thread but I just bought this phone secondhand and its on 5.1 and have received the update notification. Have the bugs that are in the above comments been fixed in 6.1 or is it still not worth upgrading to Marshmallow?
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For me, the most horrible is the delay when opening apps:
Lag manifests on this way: in response to launching app (Dialer let say) "window"/app pops up immediately but is is empty/white and only after a sec/two content shows up (for Dialer recent call list, favourites/frequent contacts, search). Minimizing app and immediately opening again is ok (it is in cache, background, memory), instant content shows up. But if I launch another app after minimizing dialer and then start dialer again - lag in Dialer is there. As if somehow Dialer is killed in background and need to relaunch again from the start (even full relaunch should not take that long anyway). Same as killing it in recent activities. All other stock apps behave this way. It is really annoying to see such a powerfull phone lags in this basic stock apps, as this doesn't happen on previous android versions (4.4.4, 5.0.2 or 5.1.1).
It would actually benefit you to DOWNGRADE to Kitkat...LP & MM are horrible on the Z3c
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It would actually benefit you to DOWNGRADE to Kitkat...LP & MM are horrible on the Z3c
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Indeed, I bought an iPad mini, downgraded z3c to KK and life is good.
I use my phone now for what phones are meant to - calling, occasional e-mail, messaging, weather, etc. Battery life is 4..5 days. The car bluetooth shows addressbook again (did not work with LP, MM).
I use power toggles as lock screen widget for bluetooth, wifi, hotspot switch. Lock screen does not require additional swipe. All other things, in reality, work as they work with LP, MM.
For heavy use larger screen is recommended anyway - for the health of your eyes first of all.
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Indeed, I bought an iPad mini, downgraded z3c to KK and life is good.
I use my phone now for what phones are meant to - calling, occasional e-mail, messaging, weather, etc. Battery life is 4..5 days. The car bluetooth shows addressbook again (did not work with LP, MM).
I use power toggles as lock screen widget for bluetooth, wifi, hotspot switch. Lock screen does not require additional swipe. All other things, in reality, work as they work with LP, MM.
For heavy use larger screen is recommended anyway - for the health of your eyes first of all.
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Really? What problems did LP & MM bring to the z3c? If it is just better battery then I think I will stay with LP...(unless its twice as good on KK). The camera quality is important for me, are any of them better/worse than others?
Do I just use a 23.0.1.A.5.77 FTF file from here and flash it using Flashtool as the instructions here? I have not rooted or unlocked bootloader, all stock.
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Really? What problems did LP & MM bring to the z3c? If it is just better battery then I think I will stay with LP...(unless its twice as good on KK). The camera quality is important for me, are any of them better/worse than others?
Do I just use a 23.0.1.A.5.77 FTF file from here and flash it using Flashtool as the instructions here? I have not rooted or unlocked bootloader, all stock.
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There is nothing wrong in MM.
Except for some people who do not use phone 12x7.
Since the concept ROM I was wondering why the battery gets empty even if I do nothing with it. The answer was Doze of course. Yes, I tried several ways for activating aggressive doze, but was not satisfied with these.
Then I decided to go retro and KitKat is all I really need, with its working STAMINA.
For camera I use Sony A6000 and you really can not compare real camera with phone.
If you use your phone heavily, please do not downgrade.
If you have smartwatch, please do not downgrade.
If you feel unsure about flashing, please do not downgrade.
If the warranty is dickbutt in your country - please do not downgrade.
If you still decide to downgrade, then yes, your instructions are correct.
NB! The flash will take long time. Be pacient. It seems to be stuck but it just stays in one place for 5..10 minutes and then everything is ok. I have not measured the exact time, but I was horrified at first flash - it really seemed stuck. Perhaps it is just with my phone.
Scared of MM, really?
Firstly its been out quite some time now, especially if you consider N has just been released to the Nexus range.
Stamina mode and Doze are fantastic, I get 2 days+ with my compact and it's on 24/7.
I also have audited my startup items and background apps to reduce load on then phone which pays dividends.
The initial MM upgrade didn't include Stamina but Sony have since released an update bringing it to the masses.
Your call in the end but don't let scaremongerers cloud your judgement, do some reading, reviews from good sources and make your own minds up.
I did and only issue I had, which I know probably isn't just down to MM, was the emergency dialling issue on lockscreen.
3rd party app cured that for me so now the phone doesn't sit in my pocket making random noises and dialling whoever it pleases anymore!
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It would actually benefit you to DOWNGRADE to Kitkat...LP & MM are horrible on the Z3c
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LP running fine for me. I only have 1 bug is video playback freezing while buffering.
asmetoma said:
Stamina mode and Doze are fantastic, I get 2 days+ with my compact and it's on 24/7.
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I've got 4...5 days with KitKat, phone is also on 24/7 (but of course, I do not USE it 24/7). No root.
It's not about scare - the phone is too cheap to be scared, besides there are many new phones to choose from with really good batteries.
However, I do not feel that I should change the phone and I like when I do not have to charge it often.
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Perhaps one should take into consideration that the workload of the phones has been increased a lot during last few years. Specially if you have smart devices etc.
So I am a bit burned from updating my s5 mini (last time it just updated itself to 5.0, my battery life and performance shrunk and it wouldnt even let me disable bloatware).
Here are my questions:
1. How did the battery life change from 5.0;
2. How did the peformance change from 5.0 (including in-apps, opening them and regular menu opening/scrolling);
3. Is USB-OTG now supported?
1. Battery life has improved a lot, at least for me. It seems that Smart Manager is really doing its job and I'm seeing an improvement in both standby time and SOT. With a few tweaks here and there you can improve the battery life even more.
2. Everything feels smoother, there are some updated animations and transitions that really make the phone feel like new.
3. No, OTG on the S5 Mini has never been and never will be officially supported by Samsung. There is a custom kernel that enables OTG but it most likely affects the water resistance capabilities because of the exposed USB connector and also it's somewhat of a risk to use anything that requires power on a port that was never designed to do that.
One of the few drawbacks I noticed just today is that the auto brightness seems a lot less responsive. For example it's very sunny today and most of the time when pulling the phone out of my pocket the display was still stuck on low brightness. It might just be a conflict with xposed or something else I'm running. All in all I recommend that you update, I skipped the 5.1.1 update as well but for different reasons, 6.0.1 is pretty good.
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1. Battery life has improved a lot, at least for me. It seems that Smart Manager is really doing its job and I'm seeing an improvement in both standby time and SOT. With a few tweaks here and there you can improve the battery life even more.
2. Everything feels smoother, there are some updated animations and transitions that really make the phone feel like new.
3. No, OTG on the S5 Mini has never been and never will be officially supported by Samsung. There is a custom kernel that enables OTG but it most likely affects the water resistance capabilities because of the exposed USB connector and also it's somewhat of a risk to use anything that requires power on a port that was never designed to do that.
One of the few drawbacks I noticed just today is that the auto brightness seems a lot less responsive. For example it's very sunny today and most of the time when pulling the phone out of my pocket the display was still stuck on low brightness. It might just be a conflict with xposed or something else I'm running. All in all I recommend that you update, I skipped the 5.1.1 update as well but for different reasons, 6.0.1 is pretty good.
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What model are you using? I'm using the GH800F.
How big is the change? And I've heard that 6.0.1 gives you less performance for more battery. Is that correct?
Sorry, I'm just scared of updating because I don't want to lose all of my data for another let down like 5.1.1 (that literally just enabled itself out of ****ing nowhere and I lost everything).
weezerbabi said:
What model are you using? I'm using the GH800F.
How big is the change? And I've heard that 6.0.1 gives you less performance for more battery. Is that correct?
Sorry, I'm just scared of updating because I don't want to lose all of my data for another let down like 5.1.1 (that literally just enabled itself out of ****ing nowhere and I lost everything).
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G800F as well. Like I said, I've noticed a big improvement in battery life. Just make a backup of the important stuff on your phone like contacts and photos and try the 6.0.1 firmware - I recommend you do a clean install via ODIN.
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G800F as well. Like I said, I've noticed a big improvement in battery life. Just make a backup of the important stuff on your phone like contacts and photos and try the 6.0.1 firmware - I recommend you do a clean install via ODIN.
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Alright, as long as the performance hasn't decreased (especially in games) then I'll update.
Since I've got most things on my SD card, can I just remove it from my phone, update and put it back in?
weezerbabi said:
Alright, as long as the performance hasn't decreased (especially in games) then I'll update.
Since I've got most things on my SD card, can I just remove it from my phone, update and put it back in?
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Yes, backup everything you don't want to lose to your card, wipe the phone from recovery and install a fresh 6.0.1 firmware with ODIN. If you don't like Marshmallow you can always go back to KitKat.
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Yes, backup everything you don't want to lose to your card, wipe the phone from recovery and install a fresh 6.0.1 firmware with ODIN. If you don't like Marshmallow you can always go back to KitKat.
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That's the problem, I can't revert. I tried doing it with 5.1.1 but it just wouldn't let me. I tried multiple times, on multiple PC's with multiple USB wires. (which is why I'm so nervous).
P.s. So if I remove my card, installl 6.0.1 and add it again it'll work?
weezerbabi said:
That's the problem, I can't revert. I tried doing it with 5.1.1 but it just wouldn't let me. I tried multiple times, on multiple PC's with multiple USB wires. (which is why I'm so nervous).
P.s. So if I remove my card, installl 6.0.1 and add it again it'll work?
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You should be able to revert, if you can't then there's an issue with something - maybe you haven't updated the Samsung USB drivers?
Yes, it will work. Backup your contacts, messages, photos, videos, anything you want saved on your card and pull it out before you update if you're so nervous.
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You should be able to revert, if you can't then there's an issue with something - maybe you haven't updated the Samsung USB drivers?
Yes, it will work. Backup your contacts, messages, photos, videos, anything you want saved on your card and pull it out before you update if you're so nervous.
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So I just updated and it's been sitting at "samsung" for the past 5 minutes. Why?
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So I just updated and it's been sitting at "samsung" for the past 5 minutes. Why?
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The first boot takes ~15 minutes, be patient. Check out threads about the Marshmallow update you'll find a lot of useful info.
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The first boot takes ~15 minutes, be patient. Check out threads about the Marshmallow update you'll find a lot of useful info.
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Oh wow. This is just...
It is so sluggish like wtf...
Also be aware that marshmallow ****s up your gps big time. if you're only using it for rough navigation it's fine, but don't expect accuracy as a pedestrian
Hi, i flashed stock MM TW comming from CyanogenMod 13. My battery life seems worse than before with CMod... What should I do?
Before upgrading to MM I did a benchmark test (AnTuTu) on 4.4.2 for comparison, ran the same test on MM and here are the results.
Thanks for the test. A more meaningful one would be to compare Lollipop 5.1 with MM 6.0.1 as most S5 Mini users have Lollipop installed.
I have a question about the MM 6.0.1 update. I flashed the new rom al updatet and seemd to work perfect. Then i noticed, the battery life was very poor. So take a good look at what was draining it. During the day it seemd okay, then when i got home it started rapidly draining again. I managed to figure out that when i am using 4G/LTE everything is fine but when i am home and change to my wifi, my screen turns on every 3 minutes or something and it complety unlocks as wel. because i have my screen time set to 1 minute it stays that way then turns of and about 3 minutes later turns itself on again. When i disable wifi the problem is gone.
Has anyone a idea how to fix this? i live at the border of my country and without wifi its gonna be expesive with roaming costs ....
Thanx in advance for your reply's
Hi, I'm using Germany (DBT) firmware.
I usually use Ultra Power Saving Mode.
Then after turn off Ultra Saving Mode, e-mail application is asking me "admin priviliages confirmation" for each time. (only for Exchange account)
My flashlight don't work in the dark after the update to marshmellow.
Tried another from play store, the same issue
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Myke72 said:
My flashlight don't work in the dark after the update to marshmellow.
Tried another from play store, the same issue
DBT firmware
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I had the same issue. Resetting the app worked for me. (btw. I googled that)
"Anwendungsmanager", "Kamera", "Speicher", "Daten löschen" und "Cache leeren".
Since you said you are on the DBT firmware, I assumed you are german.
I'm on 5.1.1 not rooted with g800f. Should I update to MM with Odin first then flash the custom recovery? Thank you!