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Can I control Chromecast with my phone without a wifi router? I would like to be able to use just a tv, chromecast, and my phone to stream from my phone. Does anyone know if this is possible or if it will be? I tried downloading a rented movie from Google movie and turn the router off at my house. I tried to stream, but it failed for two reasons. Google movies won't let you stream downloaded movies and Chromecast won't work without my router on. Did I do something wrong here or am I missing something? I would prefer to be able to rely on my phone's data and downloaded files. Doesn't anyone think this would be possible with Chromecast? I guess I'm ultimately looking for portability without the internet.
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Can I control Chromcast with my phone without a wifi router? I would like to be able to use just a tv, chromecast, and my phone to stream from my phone. Does anyone know if this is possible or if it will be? I tried downloading a rented movie from Google movie and turn the router off at my house. I tried to stream, but it failed for two reasons. Google movies won't let you stream downloaded movies and Chromecast won't work without my router on. Did I do something wrong here or am I missing something? I would prefer to be able to rely on my phone's data and downloaded files. Doesn't anyone think this would be possible with Chromecast? I guess I'm ultimately looking for portability without the internet.
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I'm pretty sure your phone/tablet/laptop need to be on the same subnet as the device so it can be found to cast to, hence the need to have everything on the same wifi router.
I think that you can tether it to your phone. You select which wi-fi network the Chromecast joins using the Chromecast app, so no reason that you couldn't enter your phone's wi-fi network.
I think the salient point from the above answers is that Chromecast seems to need an Internet connection for some things (like youtube). For Web pages the Windows chrome browser sends the content to Chromecast but other times (YouTube) it's pulling content itself from the Internet.
Once Koush's app is out hopefully you'll be able to stream more content right to your phone, so a peer to peer network might work better
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I think that you can tether it to your phone. You select which wi-fi network the Chromecast joins using the Chromecast app, so no reason that you couldn't enter your phone's wi-fi network.
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You could, but remember that Casting from your phone, computer, etc removes that device from being in the middle, and the Chromecast does the heavy lifting of grabbing the requested stream from the internet and playing it on-screen. Your phone's WiFi may be sufficient, but remember you're going to be pulling HD data over the cellular connection, and that'll probably be jerky and buffer a lot. It was neat to cast a netflix item from my phone and turn my phone OFF while it was still playing (and didn't skip a beat) to verify it wasn't using my phone for anything.
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You could, but remember that Casting from your phone, computer, etc removes that device from being in the middle, and the Chromecast does the heavy lifting of grabbing the requested stream from the internet and playing it on-screen. Your phone's WiFi may be sufficient, but remember you're going to be pulling HD data over the cellular connection, and that'll probably be jerky and buffer a lot. It was neat to cast a netflix item from my phone and turn my phone OFF while it was still playing (and didn't skip a beat) to verify it wasn't using my phone for anything.
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Good point. The handoff is amazing. I just would like the option for when I'm somewhere with no internet. In my opinion, this could be a huge deal breaker for a lot of people. Why make it so small, if it's not meant to be taken everywhere? But, who knows. From my perspective, it goes right back to the DRM issue with Xbox. I buy or rent all of the media I watch, but forcing me to be online anytime I want to view it is just controlling. It removes value.
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Good point. The handoff is amazing. I just would like the option for when I'm somewhere with no internet. In my opinion, this could be a huge deal breaker for a lot of people. Why make it so small, if it's not meant to be taken everywhere? But, who knows. From my perspective, it goes right back to the DRM issue with Xbox. I buy or rent all of the media I watch, but forcing me to be online anytime I want to view it is just controlling. It removes value.
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I would tether or use one of those mobile hotspots (I don't have one, but might if I traveled extensively) and stream that way at a hotel or even someone elses house.
Ohh, which begs the question, can the Chromecast store more than one Wifi configuration? I don't think the software can do that at the moment.. Would be VERY convenient to travel to known locations back and forth.
As for direct streaming of local video, i was able to stream MP4 files no problem using a Chrome browser tab. The computer doing the rendering needs to be a higher-end PC, though - right now I have a older 'media PC' set up that my Xbox plays DLNA from and it's just a glorified storage device, it didn't want to render those videos well at all. So if you have a decent laptop, and get Connectify (free PC software that makes your laptop a hotspot) you can stream to the Chromecast directly while out at a remote location.
I believe the ad-hoc wireless functionality was only meant to facilitate initial setup, not to be a content streaming solution.
Plus, I doubt your phone would be able to handle the computing stress required to cast content directly to the Chromecast.
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I believe the ad-hoc wireless functionality was only meant to facilitate initial setup, not to be a content streaming solution.
Plus, I doubt your phone would be able to handle the computing stress required to cast content directly to the Chromecast.
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I stream HD Netflix from my phone's hotspot, perfect. I play my xbox online with parties using my hotpsot...perfect.
My down speeds are better than most peoples ISP down speeds so I don't see this being an issue.
The Xbox Smartglass app works from my phone while my phone is giving my Xbox internet so I don't see why the Chromecast wouldn't be able to work either.
I emailed Google about this because I honestly don't see the problem.
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I stream HD Netflix from my phone's hotspot, perfect. I play my xbox online with parties using my hotpsot...perfect.
My down speeds are better than most peoples ISP down speeds so I don't see this being an issue.
The Xbox Smartglass app works from my phone while my phone is giving my Xbox internet so I don't see why the Chromecast wouldn't be able to work either.
I emailed Google about this because I honestly don't see the problem.
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let me know if you get a reply because i want to do the same thing but apparently this is the reason why it doesn't work
http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...android-phone-hotspot-ap-isolation-issue.html
seems like if you can disable ap isolation then it would fix it but i'm not sure how you'd do that
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I think that you can tether it to your phone. You select which wi-fi network the Chromecast joins using the Chromecast app, so no reason that you couldn't enter your phone's wi-fi network.
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I tried doing this on my Galaxy Note II (Sprint) using WiFi tether. I was able to get it an IP and connect to the network, but it wasn't pushing the DNS info (ie wasn't getting an internet connection). Unfortunately, WiFi tether can be limited in the it's settings and CC has only a few.
Unfortunately, from what I've seen, you are unable to store multiple networks on the CC. I don't believe it was designed for that much portability. I happen to have a laptop with me and was able to do the setup. Since I wasn't able to get an internet connect, I wasn't able to test if I could cast from the GN2. My expectation is most likely not. But I had a tablet with me too, and would have tested it with that.
As for how it would preform, I assume for Netflix and application with CC extension built in, no problem. Trying to cast a Chrome tab, that could be iffy since it would depend on well WiFi tether can handle the that much traffic and the PC.
I haven't fiddled with it since then. But it's definitely possible with some tweaks.
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let me know if you get a reply because i want to do the same thing but apparently this is the reason why it doesn't work
http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...android-phone-hotspot-ap-isolation-issue.html
seems like if you can disable ap isolation then it would fix it but i'm not sure how you'd do that
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I don't think there is a way to disable AP isolation. I'm no network wiz or anything but I rally think it would be an easy update on their side to grant access to using our phones hot spot.
I also noticed that the Chromecast itself generates its own hotspot...I'm assuming to let other devices connect to it and cast to it.
I'm not mad that it doesn't work ($35 isn't a wallet breaker) but I am mad that I jumped the gun and used my 3 months free promo for Netflix =(
Well, here it is guys
Hello Troy,
Thank you for contacting Google Play! It was a pleasure getting to speak with you today. Unfortunately you will need an ISP to hook up your chromecast it will not work off of a hotspot connection.
If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to reply directly to this email. Also, you can visit our help center at:
https://support.google.com/chromecast/
Regards,
Tracy
The Google Play Support Team!
On 08/10/13 00:10:27 ********** wrote:
first_name_req: Troy
last_name_req: Wisniewski
email_req: **********
Chromekey_serial:
description_req: I don't have an ISP at my residence, I use my Galaxy Nexus
hotspot for everything which always works out well. I was hoping that the
Chromecast would work connected to my hotpot but it seems to have issues.
People have stated that it won't work because your phone has to be
connected to wifi as well but my rebuttal to this is that
Microsoft's "SmartGlass" app is used to control my Xbox, through wifi. I
use my hotspot to give internet access to my Xbox and my phone can control
it even though it is technically not on a wifi network, instead it is
providing the wifi. To me it seems this is the same concept and should work
with a bit of back end support on your end. I would appreciate an email
back stating whether this is going to be possible or not. If it isn't
possible I understand. For $35 ($15 with the Netflix promo) it's not
exactly killing me. The reason I don't have an ISP is because I would
rather not be raped (for lack of better words)
P.S. Google Fiber Metro Detroit please
static_subject_line: Chromecast technical question
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I guess the the next step is for everyone to quote this and spread the word throughout the other posts here at XDA and any other forums related to this topic.
iTreezy said:
I guess the the next step is for everyone to quote this and spread the word throughout the other posts here at XDA and any other forums related to this topic.
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bull****. they're just too lazy to do it. there has to be some hotspot app that has this feature or some kind of workaround that will be figured out eventually...this was the whole reason i bought the device, this would be the ultimate portable media center. i bet that kouch guy could do it...
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bull****. they're just too lazy to do it. there has to be some hotspot app that has this feature or some kind of workaround that will be figured out eventually...this was the whole reason i bought the device, this would be the ultimate portable media center. i bet that kouch guy could do it...
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Listen.. I'm with you man. I meant spread the official word of google so we can move on to focusing on developers trying to help us out
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Listen.. I'm with you man. I meant spread the official word of google so we can move on to focusing on developers trying to help us out
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lol i know man i wasn't saying bull**** to you just in general. i already linked to this to the other post on androidcentral....hopefully this helps spread the word.
Kinda late to the party here, but just FYI I have my CC tethered to my Sprint SGS4 using the native hotspot app. Did the set up using my N10, using the chromecast app.
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So, Ive been scouring the internet looking for some sort of simple, portable, wireless method to stream content from my Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 to a TV... with the most obvious thought of HDMI adapters and dongles. Obviously one of the leading search results and hype is "Chromecast" which led me here. I was hoping I could confirm the following and see if any progress has been made:
1. Can the Chromecast be used to stream content on a mobile device? Or is it still based strictly on app based media?
2. I doubt much progress has been made in this area, so I really doubt "screencasting" from a mobile device (tablet/phone) is possible, especially without internet connection.
3. Can Chromecast be supported by a portable wifi hotspot yet? or is it still strictly dependent on a ISP to router WiFi connection?
4. If Chromecast doesn't do it, then has any one found any devices that allows you to stream your tablet/phone to a tv wirelessly the same way that you can do if you have the MHL to HDMI cables?
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So, Ive been scouring the internet looking for some sort of simple, portable, wireless method to stream content from my Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 to a TV... with the most obvious thought of HDMI adapters and dongles. Obviously one of the leading search results and hype is "Chromecast" which led me here. I was hoping I could confirm the following and see if any progress has been made:
1. Can the Chromecast be used to stream content on a mobile device? Or is it still based strictly on app based media?
2. I doubt much progress has been made in this area, so I really doubt "screencasting" from a mobile device (tablet/phone) is possible, especially without internet connection.
3. Can Chromecast be supported by a portable wifi hotspot yet? or is it still strictly dependent on a ISP to router WiFi connection?
4. If Chromecast doesn't do it, then has any one found any devices that allows you to stream your tablet/phone to a tv wirelessly the same way that you can do if you have the MHL to HDMI cables?
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Read the Stickies first.
3. As long as your hotspot does not isolates clients or the AP itself, does not block or mangle multicast, and has sufficient bitrate to get the Internet-based media you want, it should work.
4. Wireless HDMI transmitter/receiver, but those cost in the $150+ range for good reason - latency is the biggest enemy. That's why applying the same mechanism that desktop Chrome tab casting won't work. It'll overload the CPU of the phone/tablet with compression and it will still have lag.
Hello everyone.
I've been trying to cast from my laptop but I don't see it (No Cast Devices found). I'm able to cast effortlessly from my Android device though.
Now, after poking here and there I tried connecting my laptop directly to the router and then Chrome detected my cast device.
Any idea of what it could be? This may be the wrong forum to post this but not even Google Support has figured out what's wrong.
Thanks!
I have the same problem, obviously I don't know how to fix it
Do you have a dual band router that is broadcasting 2.4 and 5 ghz signals? I've read of people having issues when the Chromecast uses 2.4 and your computer is trying to connect via the 5ghz network. Personally I have iPads and my Android phone connecting over 5ghz while my Chromecast is on 2.4 and don't have any problems. But perhaps it is a router issue. I use a WAP running DD-WRT, so it is better than most OEM routers out there.
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Do you have a dual band router that is broadcasting 2.4 and 5 ghz signals? I've read of people having issues when the Chromecast uses 2.4 and your computer is trying to connect via the 5ghz network. Personally I have iPads and my Android phone connecting over 5ghz while my Chromecast is on 2.4 and don't have any problems. But perhaps it is a router issue. I use a WAP running DD-WRT, so it is better than most OEM routers out there.
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There should not be an issue with connecting on different bands unless you segregate the 5ghz band on your router. Most routers are not setup to do that but if you have made changes, it is possible.
I checked the AP isolation thing before posting. So it wasnt that. I also flashed DD-WRT on it just to make sure. Same result.
We all on the same network/SSID.
Google cant figure out why Chrone only sees it only when wired im still waiting for them to come back with a workaround. If they do ill post it.
mogul420 said:
I checked the AP isolation thing before posting. So it wasnt that. I also flashed DD-WRT on it just to make sure. Same result.
We all on the same network/SSID.
Google cant figure out why Chrone only sees it only when wired im still waiting for them to come back with a workaround. If they do ill post it.
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wild guess... if its not AP isolation maybe your wifi card has a firewall enabled and your Ethernet port doesn't?
Ashcunak said:
wild guess... if its not AP isolation maybe your wifi card has a firewall enabled and your Ethernet port doesn't?
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checked. firewall is off.
weirder, the Chromecast app detects it, but my browser doesnt.
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mogul420 said:
checked. firewall is off.
weirder, the Chromecast app detects it, but my browser doesnt.
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I'm on the same boat with a "similar" problem. I have a Netgear N900 dual band router, but the issue persists while my main laptop (Win7) is connected via WiFi to either band (2.4GHz or 5.0GHz) or if I connect it directly to the router via Ethernet wire. Using the Chromecast app from the same laptop works without a hitch. I can also ping the Chromecast IP address without a problem. I have rebooted several times, uninstalled and re-installed Chrome and the Google Cast extension, but it makes no difference. I believe that the plugin is conflicting with "something" in this specific laptop. The issue is not with the LAN. All devices are on the same Network segment and respond to pings. The Google Cast extension works fine from two other laptops running Win7 with a similar setup, running the same version of the Chrome browser and Google Cast. I can also cast from my Android mobile devices (Nexus 7 & SGS3) using youtube. Suggestions anyone?
UPDATE:
The conflict was being caused by an active "virtual" network adapter. Specifically, the Leaf Network adapter that was installed with Netgear's ReadyShare Cloud. I guess this adapter works as a VPN to connect to the ReadyShare Cloud. I disabled this adapter and the Chromecast discovery worked. Apparently, the Chrome Cast extension is not smart enough to avoid virtual (VPN) adapters and link with the Primary (physical) wired/wireless adapter. At minimum, the extension should have an option to select the adapter to use. I don't user ReadyShare that frequently so having the adapter disabled does not bother me much.
The new update rolling out today is suppose to improve discovery so perhaps it will fix some of these issues.
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The new update rolling out today is suppose to improve discovery so perhaps it will fix some of these issues.
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Thanks for the heads up. Is this a firmware update for the dongle or an updated Chrome Cast extension? Regardless, is there a a place where I can read about this update or a way for me to manually download it?
Btw, I found the conflict with my setup... I have updated my previous post.
Got the Chromecast dongle "firmware" OTA update today. It went from release 12072 (shipped) to release 12840.. I don't think this is a "new" update that's supposed to be rolling out today.. If discovery was supposed to be improved with this release, it did not fix the issue with my ReadyShare Cloud virtual VPN adapters. Once I enable the Leaf Network adapter the device disappears from the Chrome Cast pull down. After reading about it a bit more, it appears that this 12840 OTA update patches the exploit used to get root. Oh well... does anyone know if there are any new features or what else is fixed with the 12840 release?
Hi,
Do I need a standalone WiFi network available to cast from my device to the TV or not?
Will I be able to go to friend and cast something from my tablet to his TV even thou he does not have WiFi at home?
Yes, you need a WiFi network and an Internet connection accessible from that.
If you just have your tablet and Chromecast, the Chromecast won't be able to find a network, as your tablet is not a WiFi access point.
I don't know of anyone who has tried setting up their phone/tablet as a WiFi hot spot and connecting Chromecast to that. I'm not certain how Android hotspot NATs and/or isolates clients.
Best to just bring a small wireless router. There are a number of "travel router" devices that have an internal battery or can be powered via USB.
Connect it to your friend's Internet connection, then off you go.
If the goal is just to show stuff from your tablet on your friend's TV, it might be easier/cheaper to just go hardwired with an HDMI or VGA output adapter for your tablet, if it has that option.
bhiga said:
I don't know of anyone who has tried setting up their phone/tablet as a WiFi hot spot and connecting Chromecast to that. I'm not certain how Android hotspot NATs and/or isolates clients.
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ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.
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ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.
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Remember that Chromecast still needs a connection to the Internet in order to negotiate the application launch.
Thus the Hotspot. Just might work.
My friend is technologically challenged
He's got no internet at home apart from out mobile phones which we can use for internet at his place...
So, can I use my phone's Wifi hotspot to and use my phone/tablet to stream the web to his TV?
How does the Chrome cast work? Is the tablet interphase only used to set up a link between the dongle and the wifi sender/ router?
For native apps, Chromecast works more like a your phone/tablet in the fact that it pulls the requested data and plays on its own. The video isn't going from the Internet to your phone/tablet, then from your phone/tablet to the Chromecast, your phone/tablet "hands off" the request to the Chromecast and the video goes directly from the Internet to the Chromecast. The control via tablet/phone is done through a "side" channel that Chromecast listens on, which also lets your phone/tablet know what Chromecast is doing.
For example, YouTube...
You open YouTube on your phone/tablet
You find a video
You cast it to your Chromecast
Chromecast "phones home" to Google to figure out how to handle the request (I think)
Google replies with "Use the YouTube app"
Chromecast runs its YouTube app to open the link and starts playing
While it's playing on, Chromecast sends its status to your phone/tablet and listens for control commands.
So... Using your phone's WiFi Hotspot for the Chromecast might (should?) work, and what'll happen is Chromecast will connect to your phone via WiFi, and your phone will connect to Internet via mobile network.
In this case the streaming performance will be limited by both your phone's mobile data speed as well as the WiFi connection speed/stability between your phone and the Chromecast.
While I don't necessarily think this will provide a good viewing experience, it's an interesting experiment.
If you have a rooted Chromecast with Kyocast, you should be able to use the un-timebombed AllCast/AirCast to stream video stored on your phone to the Chromecast. It'll still use mobile data to "phone home" (to the Kyocast server) to figure out how to deal with the request, which will launch the AllCast/AirCast magic. From there I believe the video data will stream directly from your phone to the Chromecast, not using your mobile data... I think.
bhiga said:
For native apps, Chromecast works more like a your phone/tablet in the fact that it pulls the requested data and plays on its own. The video isn't going from the Internet to your phone/tablet, then from your phone/tablet to the Chromecast, your phone/tablet "hands off" the request to the Chromecast and the video goes directly from the Internet to the Chromecast. The control via tablet/phone is done through a "side" channel that Chromecast listens on, which also lets your phone/tablet know what Chromecast is doing.
For example, YouTube...
You open YouTube on your phone/tablet
You find a video
You cast it to your Chromecast
Chromecast "phones home" to Google to figure out how to handle the request (I think)
Google replies with "Use the YouTube app"
Chromecast runs its YouTube app to open the link and starts playing
While it's playing on, Chromecast sends its status to your phone/tablet and listens for control commands.
So... Using your phone's WiFi Hotspot for the Chromecast might (should?) work, and what'll happen is Chromecast will connect to your phone via WiFi, and your phone will connect to Internet via mobile network.
In this case the streaming performance will be limited by both your phone's mobile data speed as well as the WiFi connection speed/stability between your phone and the Chromecast.
While I don't necessarily think this will provide a good viewing experience, it's an interesting experiment.
If you have a rooted Chromecast with Kyocast, you should be able to use the un-timebombed AllCast/AirCast to stream video stored on your phone to the Chromecast. It'll still use mobile data to "phone home" (to the Kyocast server) to figure out how to deal with the request, which will launch the AllCast/AirCast magic. From there I believe the video data will stream directly from your phone to the Chromecast, not using your mobile data... I think.
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Thanx so much for all this data. Not sure whether I wanna try the rooting now. Will wait to see what Google has in store in the next month. It's rooting the dongle easy? Rooting phones comes naturally by now...
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It's really easy with Flashcast but if your Chromecast has been connected to the Internet for more than a few minutes then it has probably auto updated to a non-root able state.
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ooOOoo interesting idea.
I'll have to try that this weekend.
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I've been doing that for weeks now, if you access 3G (4G) from your device then set it as an access point, and connect to its network with CC. Then all you need is something else to connect to Netflix and the same WiFi access point (a tablet for example or another phone) and you can send it to CC.
The other device is necessary because the Netflix app doesn't show the CC share icon when connected to 3G, whereas on the other device because it's connected to 3G through a mobile WiFi access point it does.
You could use a MiFi instead.
I use it in hotels this way with the CC plugged into the hotel TV (if I'm lucky)
Just bought a chromecast... Like it so far.
I can cast anything from my Galaxy S3 that allows it; AllCast photos/music, YouTube app & Netflix app.
I can cast YouTube through Chrome browser. I don't use much else that could cast (HBO Go, etc,) via the browser. I can see the Chromecast from any device, and for the most part, it works flawlessly.
What I can't do irritates the living hell out of me, esp. since I can't find a reason why this doesn't seem to work for just me. Casting a tab in Chrome or the whole desktop will not work for me. I've tried searching; tried restarting, re-installing, reset to stock, checking VPNs, disabling the 5 ghz band from the router, re-installing Chrome, re-installing the chromecast extension. Nothing seems to work.
I press the cast button (extension) in Chrome (v32 I believe), and the TV flashes to a black screen, the blue cast icon appears on what tab I'm trying to cast, then after about 5 seconds, the red box w/ an X replaces the extension. "Unable to cast" is the reason. It tells me to check my connection.
I'm running a Windows 8 64-bit Lenovo laptop with updated Chrome. YouTube works through Chrome browser, but casting a tab won't.
I know this is a beta extension, but no one seems to have real big issues casting tabs. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks for your input
Do you have any virtual network cards installed like what you get when you install Virtual Box?
For Windows 8, here are more things to try:
Turn the 'Sharing' setting ON.
You can turn this setting on by following the steps below:
Navigate to your Desktop. (Your Desktop will be one of the default tiles on your homescreen)
Click on your WiFi settings on the bottom of your desktop bar (At the very bottom, right hand side of your Desktop)
Right click on your connected Wi-Fi network
Select 'Turn sharing on or off'
Ensure sharing is set to 'on'
Please note: Software that installs a virtual NIC - VMware, Win8 Hyper-V, but also some NAS drivers - may cause discovery issues between a laptop/desktop and the Chromecast.
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Make sure IPv6 is enabled on the Windows Machine and Router
vestaviajag said:
I'm running a Windows 8 64-bit Lenovo laptop with updated Chrome. YouTube works through Chrome browser, but casting a tab won't.
I know this is a beta extension, but no one seems to have real big issues casting tabs. What am I doing wrong?
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r00t4rd3d said:
Do you have any virtual network cards installed like what you get when you install Virtual Box?
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I shouldn't have those installed, haven't installed Virtual Box. Is there a way to tell?
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Sharing is on, has been.
I have hardly installed any 3rd party applications since purchasing the laptop in December. Office and stuff like that only.
I can see the chromecast, discovery has never been an issue; only casting a tab. I can cast YouTube from the laptop flawlessly.
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Make sure IPv6 is enabled on the Windows Machine and Router
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It is, one of the first and most often things checked.
bhiga said:
What router do you have?
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almost positive it's the Western Digital My Net N600
vestaviajag said:
almost positive it's the Western Digital My Net N600
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Ensure UPnP is enabled per page 49 (section starts on page 42) of your router's manual.
If it's already enabled, try disabling it. If that doesn't help (or makes things worse), re-enable it.
If UPnP doesn't change things, try toggling QoS per page 47
Be sure to reboot the router between settings changes for good measure.
bhiga said:
Ensure UPnP is enabled per page 49 (section starts on page 42) of your router's manual.
If it's already enabled, try disabling it. If that doesn't help (or makes things worse), re-enable it.
If UPnP doesn't change things, try toggling QoS per page 47
Be sure to reboot the router between settings changes for good measure.
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On my way home to try this. Thank you for your help and troubleshooting.
Will report back.
bhiga said:
Ensure UPnP is enabled per page 49 (section starts on page 42) of your router's manual.
If it's already enabled, try disabling it. If that doesn't help (or makes things worse), re-enable it.
If UPnP doesn't change things, try toggling QoS per page 47
Be sure to reboot the router between settings changes for good measure.
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No dice. Neither one made it worse or better.
vestaviajag said:
No dice. Neither one made it worse or better.
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Hmmm. Can you try your laptop on a wired connection? Also plug it into wall power.
I'm wondering if the wireless load is causing issues our the performanceis being limited by being on battery.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
bhiga said:
Hmmm. Can you try your laptop on a wired connection? Also plug it into wall power.
I'm wondering if the wireless load is causing issues our the performanceis being limited by being on battery.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
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I will try the laptop on a wired connection tonight. If that's the case though, it kind of defeats the purpose as my router is right below my tv w/ the chromecast; might as well just connect the laptop to the tv via HDMI.
By "plug it into wall power" do you mean the laptop or the chromecast? The laptop was on wall power last night, almost always is. I can try the chromecast, as it's only plugged into the tv.
This is driving me crazy, as everything else works. YouTube from the laptop casts perfectly, as does any app on either one of our Galaxy S3s.
vestaviajag said:
I will try the laptop on a wired connection tonight. If that's the case though, it kind of defeats the purpose as my router is right below my tv w/ the chromecast; might as well just connect the laptop to the tv via HDMI.
By "plug it into wall power" do you mean the laptop or the chromecast? The laptop was on wall power last night, almost always is. I can try the chromecast, as it's only plugged into the tv.
This is driving me crazy, as everything else works. YouTube from the laptop casts perfectly, as does any app on either one of our Galaxy S3s.
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If your router really is directly under Chromecast, I'm surprised Chromecast is getting a signal at all - it's probably being bounced off surroundings.
The WiFi antenna transmission tends to not cover directly above/below.
For a quick test, turn your router on its side if it'll balance, or move it (or Chromecast) off to the side so it's not directly above/under.
bhiga said:
If your router really is directly under Chromecast, I'm surprised Chromecast is getting a signal at all - it's probably being bounced off surroundings.
The WiFi antenna transmission tends to not cover directly above/below.
For a quick test, turn your router on its side if it'll balance, or move it (or Chromecast) off to the side so it's not directly above/under.
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I'll try that. It's not directly under, sorry for the exaggeration. My TV is mounted on the wall 3 feet above our entertainment center, where the router is located.
I still find it weird that everything works but casting a tab, which leads me to believe it's software or laptop related. I'm going to try it from my backup Windows 7 machine in the guest bedroom, see if that works.
Thanks bhiga for all your help!!!
vestaviajag said:
I'll try that. It's not directly under, sorry for the exaggeration. My TV is mounted on the wall 3 feet above our entertainment center, where the router is located.
I still find it weird that everything works but casting a tab, which leads me to believe it's software or laptop related. I'm going to try it from my backup Windows 7 machine in the guest bedroom, see if that works.
Thanks bhiga for all your help!!!
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Anywhere within about a 20-degree cone above/below tends to be bleh for signal.
Another computer is a great test. Keep the results coming and we'll get somewhere sooner or later.
If you have a third-party antivirus (ie, not Microsoft) it may be worth disabling it temporarily. Sometimes the more-intrusive antivirus "suites" include firewall components that may intercept Chromecast traffic as a potential network flood or DoS attack.
bhiga said:
Anywhere within about a 20-degree cone above/below tends to be bleh for signal.
Another computer is a great test. Keep the results coming and we'll get somewhere sooner or later.
If you have a third-party antivirus (ie, not Microsoft) it may be worth disabling it temporarily. Sometimes the more-intrusive antivirus "suites" include firewall components that may intercept Chromecast traffic as a potential network flood or DoS attack.
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Another laptop (office; Windows 7) works perfectly casting a tab and screen. So it's not the unit OR the router settings.
I will try moving my router, but that confuses me as I can flawlessly stream YouTube videos from my main laptop (living room; Windows 8), the one I'm having difficult casting a tab from.
Will first disable 3rd party anti-virus software/firewalls and attempt that. How can I check VPNs on a Windows 8 machine? All tutorials I read are about Windows 7 and they seemed to change the settings around between versions.
vestaviajag said:
Another laptop (office; Windows 7) works perfectly casting a tab and screen. So it's not the unit OR the router settings.
I will try moving my router, but that confuses me as I can flawlessly stream YouTube videos from my main laptop (living room; Windows 8), the one I'm having difficult casting a tab from.
Will first disable 3rd party anti-virus software/firewalls and attempt that. How can I check VPNs on a Windows 8 machine? All tutorials I read are about Windows 7 and they seemed to change the settings around between versions.
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The good news is that nothing else is broken.
The bad news is the broken part is you(r laptop).
YouTube casting only involves your problem laptop for sending the cast request to Chromecast. From there Chromecast goes and fetches the requested video on its own directly from YouTube, so no laptop CPU or network is involved. (See diagrams in WiFi Bandwidth and Router considerations)
Wish I could help you on Windows 8 - I have the upgrade but have held off on installing it...
What are the specs of your working vs non-working laptop?
Tab casting take take a good amount of CPU horsepower so it might be that the encoding isn't keeping up and the Cast extension is giving you a misleading error message/condition.
bhiga said:
The good news is that nothing else is broken.
The bad news is the broken part is you(r laptop).
YouTube casting only involves your problem laptop for sending the cast request to Chromecast. From there Chromecast goes and fetches the requested video on its own directly from YouTube, so no laptop CPU or network is involved. (See diagrams in WiFi Bandwidth and Router considerations)
Wish I could help you on Windows 8 - I have the upgrade but have held off on installing it...
What are the specs of your working vs non-working laptop?
Tab casting take take a good amount of CPU horsepower so it might be that the encoding isn't keeping up and the Cast extension is giving you a misleading error message/condition.
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Ohh, that makes sense about the YouTube bit. Didn't think about that...
Office (Old) Laptop: Dell 17" Inspiron
i5 (1st Gen)
6gb RAM
Windows 7 : 64-bit
Living Room (New) Laptop: Lenovo 14" U430 Touch
i5 (4th Gen)
4gb RAM
Windows 8 : 64-bit
vestaviajag said:
Ohh, that makes sense about the YouTube bit. Didn't think about that...
Office (Old) Laptop: Dell 17" Inspiron
i5 (1st Gen)
6gb RAM
Windows 7
Living Room (New) Laptop: Lenovo 14" U410 Touch
i5 (4th Gen)
4gb RAM
Windows 8
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Well there goes that theory... Both should be fine.
Hmm. I'm stumped.
Does Windows 8 still have a "Safe mode"?
If you have an Ubuntu LiveCD you could try booting off of that and see if you can cast tab from Chrome in Ubuntu.
It's not supported, but these guys seem to say it works.
bhiga said:
Well there goes that theory... Both should be fine.
Hmm. I'm stumped.
Does Windows 8 still have a "Safe mode"?
If you have an Ubuntu LiveCD you could try booting off of that and see if you can cast tab from Chrome in Ubuntu.
It's not supported, but these guys seem to say it works.
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I've made SOME progress. Figured that the Adware Antivirus is clashing with the cast extension; I couldn't just disable it, I had to completely stop the process/program.
I'm still stuck though, because now I have the blue cast logo on my TV screen, but nothing ever gets cast. This didn't happen before, it would just crash and tell me "unable to cast".
I guess I'll try completely uninstalling that antivirus, see if I can get a bit further.
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I've made SOME progress. Figured that the Adware Antivirus is clashing with the cast extension; I couldn't just disable it, I had to completely stop the process/program.
I'm still stuck though, because now I have the blue cast logo on my TV screen, but nothing ever gets cast. This didn't happen before, it would just crash and tell me "unable to cast".
I guess I'll try completely uninstalling that antivirus, see if I can get a bit further.
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Progress is good. Also check Windows Firewall to make sure "Portable Media Devices" are enabled/allowed.
Appletv will have this feature, hope chromecast will have it too in the future. This will be useful for streaming local contents when on a different house or at a hotel.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/ios-8-lets-airplay-apple-tv-without-connecting-wi-fi/
The Chromecast will never operate without an internet connection because it loads its apps from the internet.
If you load an app like Plex that streams local content, you can continue operating without an internet connection until you exit that app.
krizz07 means without an access point so WiFi direct for streaming from device to device (something I'd love to have ). Chromecast does have a WiFi connection that you use during set up so this should be possible but who knows.
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whitenoise81 said:
krizz07 means without an access point so WiFi direct for streaming from device to device (something I'd love to have ). Chromecast does have a WiFi connection that you use during set up so this should be possible but who knows.
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It doesn't matter....It can not load an app from anywhere but the Internet. All Apps must first be checked against a whitelist kept on Google Servers so until such time as Google gets rid of the whitelist you will need an Internet connection to do anything with the device.
Sounds like something that could.be 'fixed' in firmware ,at least for simple pic/vid playback
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DJames1 said:
The Chromecast will never operate without an internet connection because it loads its apps from the internet.
If you load an app like Plex that streams local content, you can continue operating without an internet connection until you exit that app.
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if the chromecast can keep something temporarily, then it should technically just get it from the host device right? and since it can already broadcast an access point so it can function without internet initially.
Then it would be a Roku. Don't hold your breath waiting for Google, buy a Roku.
DJames1 said:
Then it would be a Roku. Don't hold your breath waiting for Google, buy a Roku.
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Doesnt really work for teh way i wanted to use the CC. I Bought an ezcast dongle, its not as slick but its way more flexible
krizz07 said:
Appletv will have this feature, hope chromecast will have it too in the future. This will be useful for streaming local contents when on a different house or at a hotel.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/ios-8-lets-airplay-apple-tv-without-connecting-wi-fi/
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It seems you can do that with your chromecast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2791313
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I tried what is explined in the link. it still ask for internet. Fyi...i have new chromecast