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to Lenovo. Makes me wonder what's in store for the future. Speculate below.
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to Lenovo. Makes me wonder what's in store for the future. Speculate below.
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OMG NO! I was hoping for a real GOOGLE/motorola NEXUS. Anyways http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2629392
I'm mobile and didn't zoom in....lol
Google had this on mind since before rhey bought Moto. What they actually got off that deal were the Patents. They need it more power against apple.
Sad news
Makes me wonder if we're still going to get the official KitKat.
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TecknoFreak said:
Google had this on mind since before rhey bought Moto. What they actually got off that deal were the Patents. They need it more power against apple.
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Against microsoft+ patent portfolio. Microsoft makes more profit per device using android on licensing than google for the entierty...
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I knew they bought Moto for the patents, but I didn't think they'd drop them this quick. That said, Lenovo buying them could be a blessing in disguise. Lenovo almost runs the low end market and isn't known for uber locked devices like Moto is. I can see futute Moto phones being a much more open platform if Lenovo sees that the closed nature (and lack of updates) of Moto is their weak point. As for us and KitKat??? I dunno. I just hope it's not a wish in one hand, crap in the other situation. We really won't know anything until Lenovo releases their business plan.
Yeah i know. Google just trying to stay strong/stronger with their nexus phones. They will try the best they can to minimize the android manufacturing market and in the future narrow it to just be google phones on their operating system that be. The way i see everything they are doing is the way i picture this. :what: :banghead:
From what I've read Google might do away with Nexus altogether and is trying to pressure manufactures to not alter AOSP and release phones without Touchwiz, Blur, etcetera. Google's trying to only do the Android software and not hardware. Apparently some manufactures (Sammy) felt Google would screw them by releasing phones with newer Android versions first and make them look bad by being behind in software. IMHO, no Nexus or Moto Mobility not being Google owned might not be a bad thing IF manufactures actually release AOSP phones -- it could make the market more competitive in terms of quality hardware and price if manufactures weren't too busy doing piss-poor skins...granted some aren't bad, but most suck, especially 2.2 Blur.
Up!
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I knew they bought Moto for the patents, but I didn't think they'd drop them this quick. That said, Lenovo buying them could be a blessing in disguise. Lenovo almost runs the low end market and isn't known for uber locked devices like Moto is. I can see futute Moto phones being a much more open platform if Lenovo sees that the closed nature (and lack of updates) of Moto is their weak point. As for us and KitKat??? I dunno. I just hope it's not a wish in one hand, crap in the other situation. We really won't know anything until Lenovo releases their business plan.
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Well if their record with the IBM Thinkpad and now their own branded devices is any indication, Google is right, Lenovo will do more good/right for Motorola Mobility hardware. It isn't/wasn't Google's intention on doing anything with the phone hardware market as they stated anyways.
As I said, I would have liked a Google Motorola Nexus phone, before they handed them off, but oh well. Here's to hoping Lenovo's strengths behind Motorola bares fruit and competition for the good of the consumers.
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Well if their record with the IBM Thinkpad and now their own branded devices is any indication, Google is right, Lenovo will do more good/right for Motorola Mobility hardware. It isn't/wasn't Google's intention on doing anything with the phone hardware market as they stated anyways.
As I said, I would have liked a Google Motorola Nexus phone, before they handed them off, but oh well. Here's to hoping Lenovo's strengths behind Motorola bares fruit and competition for the good of the consumers.
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The X (Dev Edition) and G are the closest to a Moto Nexus that we'll get, sadly (I don't like either, wanted a G, no video out was the deal breaker).
Keep in mind that the sale isn't complete until the American Government approves it. The sale might not go through if AG doesn't want the Chinese (Lenovo) to have IBM and MM.
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The X (Dev Edition) and G are the closest to a Moto Nexus that we'll get, sadly (I don't like either, wanted a G, no video out was the deal breaker).
Keep in mind that the sale isn't complete until the American Government approves it. The sale might not go through if AG doesn't want the Chinese (Lenovo) to have IBM and MM.
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IMO X & G aren't much more / enough of a move from my Atrix HD for me.
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IMO X & G aren't much more / enough of a move from my Atrix HD for me.
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My thoughts as well. I'd have really considered the G if it had some sort of hdmi out, but I can't justify the X's price for some extra low powered cores and a spiffy design. I don't have to go into the lack of sdcards...I'm pretty vocal about that.
If we get Official KitKat with HDMI fixed and a 3.2 or 3.4 kernel then this platform will keep me happy for a good while longer, though I would like a phablet sized Atrix HD....or a phablet from Moto with the same usb/hdmi configuration we have (for my lapdock) and an sd slot. I don't need a tablet, but I'd like a slightly bigger screen for reading books. Hopefully Lenovo will come through and deliver where Moto's been failing. They're ambitious and want to have an American market, no screwing us and it up will give them exactly what they want (Sammy's Business).
/BF4 + Mantle is here
//Damn Netflix movie needs to end. Finally installed the updated Catalyst driver with Mantle and the nets congested so I can't play :crying:
///Mantle let me increase some lows to medium and some mediums to high and increased my framerate from 50's to 60 smooth (single player) :victory:
skeevydude said:
My thoughts as well. I'd have really considered the G if it had some sort of hdmi out, but I can't justify the X's price for some extra low powered cores and a spiffy design. I don't have to go into the lack of sdcards...I'm pretty vocal about that.
If we get Official KitKat with HDMI fixed and a 3.2 or 3.4 kernel then this platform will keep me happy for a good while longer, though I would like a phablet sized Atrix HD....or a phablet from Moto with the same usb/hdmi configuration we have (for my lapdock) and an sd slot. I don't need a tablet, but I'd like a slightly bigger screen for reading books. Hopefully Lenovo will come through and deliver where Moto's been failing. They're ambitious and want to have an American market, no screwing us and it up will give them exactly what they want (Sammy's Business).
/BF4 + Mantle is here
//Damn Netflix movie needs to end. Finally installed the updated Catalyst driver with Mantle and the nets congested so I can't play :crying:
///Mantle let me increase some lows to medium and some mediums to high and increased my framerate from 50's to 60 smooth (single player) :victory:
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Rumored 1 of 2 devices moto has is a 6.3" device in it's lineup. Lenovo says it wont interfere with the lineup.
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Rumored 1 of 2 devices moto has is a 6.3" device in it's lineup. Lenovo says it wont interfere with the lineup.
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Had to Google that. It's gonna be called the X Play and rumored to be released sometime this year. It better have an sd slot and the same usb/hdmi configuration or I'll be pissed....but I'd settle with 64-128gb internal if no sd is available....and an unlocked bootloader --> that's essential.
Rumors also said that Lenovo isn't gonna mess with what Moto is currently doing or their upcoming lineup. Hopefully that means our Kit Kat updagrade is still on track.
A 6.3" Moto. Now wouldn't that be nice. With it being called the X Play, I'm wondering if it'll be the X's Big Brother, with the Droid Quantum (the other rumored phone) being the new RAZR/Atrix model.
So can anyone confirm or deny this?
I don't believe I have any images to take a picture of now and compare with side by side.
If anyone has any to provide, please do so. :good:
i was wondering the exact same thing
Low light pictures have definitely improved in my opinion.
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Low light pictures have definitely improved in my opinion.
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Same opinion here. The camera update is a good one.
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Same opinion here. The camera update is a good one.
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SO is the camera of the Moto X now at par with the competition like Nexus 5 or Galaxy S4 etc?
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SO is the camera of the Moto X now at par with the competition like Nexus 5 or Galaxy S4 etc?
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LOL that escalated quickly. I don't think it can get as good as that of s4 with just an S/W update. S4's hardware is also better.
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LOL that escalated quickly. I don't think it can get as good as that of s4 with just an S/W update. S4's hardware is also better.
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Ok, what abt N5 then?
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Ok, what abt N5 then?
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S4.....no way !!!! S4 camera is amazing
But moto x camera update can fight with Nexus 5 camera for sure.
Btw...the moto x flash led is really really really enhanced.
^ Thanks guys..
I have experience with Nexus 5 but have never used a Moto X.
I am not looking for the best camera smartphone but Nexus 5 camera is good enuff for me.... I use my DSLR when I need better performance or quality.
So, its reassuring to know what Moto X camera is at par with N5..
I was confused whether to get a N5 or MotoX ,, I m more inclined towards the Moto
Hold on, isn't Nexus 5's camera pretty awful? After using the S4 for pretty long I can say it has an okay camera, a very good for a mobile phone's perspective though. S4 is leaps and bounds ahead of N5 right?
I think the Moto X sits in between them?
Looks like now we are close to N5. Neither Moto X or N5 are good in the camera department in my opinion, but then again both had to keep costs down not like the S4.
It looks to me like this update claims are valid. It doesn't make the camera a brand new one (for instance the moto x still has trouble with white balance, and two quick pictures of the same subject can have two different color temperatures), but it definitely shows improvements.
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^ Thanks guys..
I have experience with Nexus 5 but have never used a Moto X.
I am not looking for the best camera smartphone but Nexus 5 camera is good enuff for me.... I use my DSLR when I need better performance or quality.
So, its reassuring to know what Moto X camera is at par with N5..
I was confused whether to get a N5 or MotoX ,, I m more inclined towards the Moto
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Having had both the Nexus5 and MotoX at the same time I have been asked to compare the two many times. The best way to describe them in comparison I've found is this:
The MotoX is a great value phone with minimal lag and amazing features that truly make a smartphone smart.
The Nexus5 is the smallest computer I've ever had with no lag whatsoever, very nice vibrant screen and when necessary it makes phone calls too.
Camera wise, I took multiple pictures with both phones back to back and in low light the Nexus always won. This was a few updates ago and now I only have the MotoX so I can't compare with 4.4.3... but like I said I only have the MotoX.
P.S. with the limited information we have on the X+1 it seems as though we might be getting the best of both worlds. Might be worth the wait.
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Looks like now we are close to N5. Neither Moto X or N5 are good in the camera department in my opinion, but then again both had to keep costs down not like the S4.
It looks to me like this update claims are valid. It doesn't make the camera a brand new one (for instance the moto x still has trouble with white balance, and two quick pictures of the same subject can have two different color temperatures), but it definitely shows improvements.
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Don't know about other places but in India, the N5 costs as much as the S4.
Moto X costs around 15-20% less.
About the camera of N5, I find it adequate for the purpose...it's not that good but will serve me fine.
I haven't seen the Moto X..And here in India, Motorola has a unique sales strategy where all their phones are available thru only one online retailer. SO, you can't go to a retail shop and try it.
I am inclined to buy the Moto X as long as the camera is decent .. I mean if it matches N5 in camera, that 'll be fine for me.
As per earlier reviews, it seems N5 camera is better than Moto X. So, I wanted to find out if the Moto X has improved after the updates and it now matches the N5 in camera.
Cheers.
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Don't know about other places but in India, the N5 costs as much as the S4.
Moto X costs around 15-20% less.
About the camera of N5, I find it adequate for the purpose...it's not that good but will serve me fine.
I haven't seen the Moto X..And here in India, Motorola has a unique sales strategy where all their phones are available thru only one online retailer. SO, you can't go to a retail shop and try it.
I am inclined to buy the Moto X as long as the camera is decent .. I mean if it matches N5 in camera, that 'll be fine for me.
As per earlier reviews, it seems N5 camera is better than Moto X. So, I wanted to find out if the Moto X has improved after the updates and it now matches the N5 in camera.
Cheers.
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Go for it!! You will not regret. It truly lives up to the word "Smartphone"
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The Nexus5 is the smallest computer I've ever had with no lag whatsoever, very nice vibrant screen and when necessary it makes phone calls too.
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I disagree about the N5 being able to make phone calls. I went through 11 Nexus 5's due to major issues with call quality. Build quality was poor too as 2 of my replacements had dead pixels. Also the SIM tray on some of them didn't sit flush against the body.
It's the main reason why I replaced it with the Moto X.
Camera wasn't great but neither is the one in the Moto X. They're both average.
Didn't have any build quality issues on my Nexus and I was day 1 order (most of whom did have issues). If I went through 11 phones for call quality I'd look into a different carrier cause the strength of the Motorola radios might be masking the fact that your carrier sucks.
Your post however did remind me that the screen on the Nexus was incredibly bright and didn't produce an actual black but more of a gray and the speaker was horrid... Still, smallest PC I've ever had and better that most tablets I've seen for my usage
Ordered the Moto X finally... waiting for it impatiently now
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Don't know about other places but in India, the N5 costs as much as the S4.
Moto X costs around 15-20% less.
About the camera of N5, I find it adequate for the purpose...it's not that good but will serve me fine.
I haven't seen the Moto X..And here in India, Motorola has a unique sales strategy where all their phones are available thru only one online retailer. SO, you can't go to a retail shop and try it.
I am inclined to buy the Moto X as long as the camera is decent .. I mean if it matches N5 in camera, that 'll be fine for me.
As per earlier reviews, it seems N5 camera is better than Moto X. So, I wanted to find out if the Moto X has improved after the updates and it now matches the N5 in camera.
Cheers.
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Well when it came out the S4 was way more expensive than the N5. I'm not surprised the price went down since the new S5 is out (plus in the US the S4 has a slower processor compared to the N5).
I'm checking right now on Amazon:
Samsung Galaxy S4 unlocked seems to average $425
Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Play edition (from the play store) $649
Nexus 5 straight from Google Play is $349
Moto X unlocked from amazon ~$315 while from the motorola website $400
The camera is decent on the Moto X. I'm a visual artist so I can tell you it's not gonna replace real cameras, but it's great for those family photos, events, outside landscapes. It takes a bit of time for it to adjust the colors to the correct light around you. You can wait a bit and snap a good pic or do it quickly and color correct it later. My roommate took amazing pictures of landscapes in Ecuador and she's technologically inept and knows nothing about waiting for the right picture. So I can assume with sunlight the camera works great.
It doesn't have any of the Samsung or LG gimmicks and auto functions. Which is fine for me since I like to shoot normal pic and edit them later.
I was thorn too because of the camera, but then I decided to get the moto X and I can tell you that there's so much more this phone does for me that I can definitely overlook the camera aspect. Plus I never really use my phone as my main camera, more like a backup in a pinch or to remember things so it worked out quite nicely.
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S4.....no way !!!! S4 camera is amazing
But moto x camera update can fight with Nexus 5 camera for sure.
Btw...the moto x flash led is really really really enhanced.
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You people are wrong, yet the galaxy s4 uses a 13mpx SONY RS sensor, lacks in low light conditions even further than moto X would, the omnivision sensor placed on moto x it's capable of shooting 2k-4k real videos, I think moto x camera need heavy efforts in development by lenovo in this case, they can achieve wide benefits from the clear pixel technology, some algorithms an improved camera app and a better image processing would put the moto X in the top of g
High end phones with great and no regrets cameras.
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You people are wrong, yet the galaxy s4 uses a 13mpx SONY RS sensor, lacks in low light conditions even further than moto X would, the omnivision sensor placed on moto x it's capable of shooting 2k-4k real videos, I think moto x camera need heavy efforts in development by lenovo in this case, they can achieve wide benefits from the clear pixel technology, some algorithms an improved camera app and a better image processing would put the moto X in the top of g
High end phones with great and no regrets cameras.
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Good info
So now that Android 5.0 Lollipop is announced, we get to the (impatient) waiting game.
How long do you think before 5.0 finds its way to the Moto X Pure Edition?
They said in the coming weeks for the Nexus 5/7/10 and GPE phones. My speculation is 5-10 days for Nexus, 11-17 days for GPE, 18-30 days before X PE sees the update, and another 1-2 months before it finds its way to the carrier versions.
Here is where they will announce it:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
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Here is where they will announce it:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
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Is it just me, or is there no way to pick the Pure Edition on there? I know it doesn't matter currently, but thought it was odd.
With the original moto x pure edition it was about a month after nexus devices that the moto got its update so I would say a couple of weeks after the nexus so late Nov...
They are pushing the vanilla expierence for the pure, and one of the boasts said it would be almost days after nexus, but that cant be reliable. For someone who had rocked L on their nexus 5 it cant come soon enough.
Anyone know how long after the pure moto x (2013) got updated for the at&t moto x to get it?
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With the old moto x it was about 2 months after the pure got updated
Quick question: if I bought my phone full price does that mean it is the pure edition?
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So now that Android 5.0 Lollipop is announced, we get to the (impatient) waiting game.
How long do you think before 5.0 finds its way to the Moto X Pure Edition?
They said in the coming weeks for the Nexus 5/7/10 and GPE phones. My speculation is 5-10 days for Nexus, 11-17 days for GPE, 18-30 days before X PE sees the update, and another 1-2 months before it finds its way to the carrier versions.
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Probably long before my n7 2013 lte...
godutch said:
Probably long before my n7 2013 lte...
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It will come when it will come. All the speculation won't make it get here any faster. Moto's track record with the 2013 models, including the Droid line, was stellar. Very quick update to KitKat. My Droid Maxx got it before even the Moto X crowd.
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It will come when it will come. All the speculation won't make it get here any faster. Moto's track record with the 2013 models, including the Droid line, was stellar. Very quick update to KitKat. My Droid Maxx got it before even the Moto X crowd.
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That's what I am saying, motorola will probably even beat some nexus devices
My personal unknowing opinion, by end of next month.
Something tells me it'll be really fast.
Like, same day/next day fast (I'm talking about Pure Edition of course)
The OS on the Moto X is as bare as it can possibly be. There's nothing to port, really.
All Moto-specific features (Moto Assist, Moto Voice etc.) are separate PlayStore apps.
And Nexus 6 pretty much is Moto X, only blown up. So there's no tangible reason for one handset to get Lollipop waaay before the other.
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Quick question: if I bought my phone full price does that mean it is the pure edition?
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Only if you specifically chose the Pure Edition as an option in MotoMaker.
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Something tells me it'll be really fast.
Like, same day/next day fast (I'm talking about Pure Edition of course)
The OS on the Moto X is as bare as it can possibly be. There's nothing to port, really.
All Moto-specific features (Moto Assist, Moto Voice etc.) are separate PlayStore apps.
And Nexus 6 pretty much is Moto X, only blown up. So there's no tangible reason for one handset to get Lollipop waaay before the other.
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I mean they look the same, but they have completely different specs so saying that the N6 is a blown up Moto X is not an accurate statement.
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they look the same, but they have completely different specs
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And how are they fundamentally different? 801 vs. 805? Tomayto / tomahto.
It's not like N6 has 64bit architecture or something.
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Something tells me it'll be really fast.
Like, same day/next day fast (I'm talking about Pure Edition of course)
The OS on the Moto X is as bare as it can possibly be. There's nothing to port, really.
All Moto-specific features (Moto Assist, Moto Voice etc.) are separate PlayStore apps.
And Nexus 6 pretty much is Moto X, only blown up. So there's no tangible reason for one handset to get Lollipop waaay before the other.
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I am believing it'll be really fast too. Trusted devices doesn't need to be incorporated anymore. Google has their own ambient mode, so Moto could follow that. In Lollipop, the "ok Google" anytime is like Moto Voice, so perhaps less code to deal with. Lollipop looks like it does all the heavy lifting for Moto features. Motorola may have less work to do, except the camera app. They better focus on the camera app. They have no excuse since the APIs are there
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And how are they fundamentally different? 801 vs. 805? Tomayto / tomahto.
It's not like N6 has 64bit architecture or something.
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different gpu
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different gpu
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Again, incremental update. Not too different.
Moto has the final Lollipop build and has probably already been setting it up for updating. The only thing that could hold it up would be carriers.
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Only if you specifically chose the Pure Edition as an option in MotoMaker.
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What about if you've bought the phone sim-free off Amazon? I'm assuming that's a Pure too?
I've been thinking of upgrading from my 1st gen Moto G. I eventually settled on the 2nd gen Moto X as a suitable replacement. Unfortunately, due to a horrendous experience with Motorola customer service, that's not going to be happening. I kind of settled on the 4.7" Idol 3 as a replacement (yeah, quite a step down, and more of a sidegrade from a Moto G), but I thought before I pulled the trigger I'd try to crowdsource another option.
Basically, my priorities are:
Length no greater than 140mm (5.5"). So I guess I'm looking at a 5" screen.
Unlocked GSM.
Price range $200-300 (new).
Not terribly old; still available new.
Company with a decent track record of getting OS updates to their devices.
Any opinions on non-Moto options I could look at?
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I've been thinking of upgrading from my 1st gen Moto G. I eventually settled on the 2nd gen Moto X as a suitable replacement. Unfortunately, due to a horrendous experience with Motorola customer service, that's not going to be happening. I kind of settled on the 4.7" Idol 3 as a replacement (yeah, quite a step down, and more of a sidegrade from a Moto G), but I thought before I pulled the trigger I'd try to crowdsource another option.
Basically, my priorities are:
Length no greater than 140mm (5.5"). So I guess I'm looking at a 5" screen.
Unlocked GSM.
Price range $200-300 (new).
Not terribly old; still available new.
Company with a decent track record of getting OS updates to their devices.
Any opinions on non-Moto options I could look at?
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Nexus 5? Close to that price point I'm guessing!
Good luck finding anything, most newer phones are either to big or to expensive or both. The moto x 2014 has its flaws for sure but based on your above specs its STILL your best choice.
https://www.motorola.com/us/motomaker?pid=FLEXR2
Starting at $299 new
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Nexus 5? Close to that price point I'm guessing!
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Wow, I didn't actually realize that was in my price range (or close enough, anyway). That's really tempting, but it's almost a 2 year old phone (actually a month older than the phone it would be replacing). I think I'd be concerned about how long it's going to be supported yet. Definitely a step up, though, so I'll consider it. Thanks!
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Good luck finding anything, most newer phones are either to big or to expensive or both. The moto x 2014 has its flaws for sure but based on your above specs its STILL your best choice.
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Yeah, after the experience I just had, I'm voting with my dollars. Moto is out for this one.
I just ran across the Huawei P8 Lite, which is sort of looking interesting at first glance.
maybe wait on the new lg based nexus that should be announced in a few months i think its only 5.5"
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maybe wait on the new lg based nexus that should be announced in a few months i think its only 5.5"
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Are you talking about what I've been hearing referred to as the Nexus 5 2015? Will probably be out of my price range at release, and I'm not sure I can wait that long. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
As great as the old Nexus 5 looks, I'm reading about Google putting a 2 year cap on major OS upgrades for the Nexus line, and that's almost up already. So that's out as well.
P8 Lite still looks interesting, except that they're still on KitKat with it. I can probably live with that until someone gets an aftermarket ROM running on it, though... I've only been playing around with Lollipop for a few weeks on my Moto, and I haven't found anything I can't live without.
just be sure you can unlock the bootloader and that there is dev support for that phone. Many of the cheaper phones ESPECIALLY meditek based ones seem to have questionable support and os upgradeability
Yeah although the nexus 5 is 2 years old the snapdragon 800 is similar to the 801 found in the moto x2014! The screen is an HD lcd panel, similar as far as resolution, yet different type of screen, x2014 has an amoled screen! And truthfully the nexus 5 if the bootloader is unlocked and your rooted with custom recovery will have the newest software for a few years to come! Unlike many other oem's which implement there own software into Android therefore guaranteeing very few updates! Look at the nexus 4, runs current 5.1.1, but I'm sure once 6.0 comes out the amazing devs will port roms for Android 6.0, and that phone is ancient lol, but it's a nexus!!! Good luck whatever you choose friend
I've the chance to buy probably BNDS / BNIB units at the same cost as say more recent MT6737M/ Snapdragon 435 even MT6795 units with microsd, 64bit support.
I'm tempted by having the snapdragon 801 at a low cost but is it too late now expecially with the lack of 64bit support or does its raw power still relevant?
What would you do?
Moto X was a great device in its era. Even today I still praise it for the most compact device with a 5,2 inch screen. I can operate it easily with one hand. But,in today's standart,it's an outdated device. You got plenty devices with better specs and prices to choose. The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life. I own a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4X and comparing both is so pathetic. Battery endurance in Redmi Note 4 is so much better. If Moto X is the device with 4000 mah battery, I think it's still countable. With custom ROM,Moto X is still fast and fluid. I prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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I don't even know how to root it to get sunshine. Kingroot doesnt work and sunshine says the firmware isnt compatible.
Absolutely......................................not. Look I love my X 2014 but it was a flawed device when it came out and that didn't let it age well. The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison. The lack of fingerprint sensor might not seem like a big deal but until you use it, you don't know what your missing. The phone is still smooth but how long until developers move on. The design in my opinion was still one of the best, a classic for sure. It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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huatz84 said:
prefer using Moto X daily than my RN4X coz the design fits perfectly in my pocket.
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Yeah I had hoped that the overall experience is still preferable even taking into account its cons.
huatz84 said:
The most complaint with Moto X in my opinion is the battery life.
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I'm of the mindset that I can offset this issuee with phone with lots of powerbank choices now.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
The camera and battery were terrible when it came out, now they are down right garbage in comparison to mid rangers. The screen was average when it came out, now it's terrible in comparison.
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This is disappointing -- 1 factor that makes me consider this is (since i had no real life experience with it) -- that the AMOLED screen and camera would still be competent to comparable models.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
...It's just not worth it.
Get a Moto G5 Plus or similar, they are under 200 sales.
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DustArma said:
Battery is too bad nowadays even if performance is alright, if you absolutely must go Moto then get the G5 Plus
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OK, if while considering all the above I add the relative context that in my area if available the G5 plus is 200USD, while the Moto X would be 110USD bnew, would that make it more appealing?
I've had mine for 2 years, and still loving it. I bought it in a carrier store for 400 Canadian Dollars. Since I can only buy phones in a store at full retail price, my choices are somewhat limited. I still can't find a "better" phone at $500 CAD. My Moto X 2014 is running the latest Android perfectly with 2GB RAM, and will run Android 8.0 Oreo (custom ROMs). The only consideration is band support, as it may not support the latest and fastest LTE bands used by some carriers nowadays. Also, this phone has NFC, some lower priced new phones may not.
The things I would be looking for in a new phone: longer battery life, latest LTE bands support, and maybe a bigger screen, like 5.5+ inch.
I just got that phone about 3 days ago... It is just amazing..remember.. It was a flagship.. Soft/hdw integratiom are perfect. Even with low battery and 2 gb of ram.. It's more worthy than several mid ranges phone mentioned. Besides, you get plenty of development for at least one more year.. Go for it!