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A read about the forum state regarding Kit Kat OTA update

This is not a rant or a moan or whatever you want to call it. This is just clearing a few things up after the last few days what i have been reading on the forum.
Firstly support for N4 will still be there after this update, and i am sure we have at least one more major update to come for our beloved device. People saying that our phone will be next are just talking rubbish. People all over the forum are crying thinking that our device will be next. Until a confirmation from Google can people please stop with the conspiracy theories.
Also regarding with the launcher. Now i am not that really bothered if it gets released or not as i do not use Google Now. But again were is the official confirmation that the launcher will not be included for our device? There is none. Just tech sites writing there stuff as usual and every one is lapping it up and making a fuss.
I love my phone and i do not see a reason why i should upgrade to the Nexus 5. I do not want though people in the forum to start moaning about things that are not official yet from the God itself which is Google. Yes they are not perfect but until the actual release gets to our device and we have things missing then fine all hell can break lose.
Oh and one last thing. Yes am gutted that we not got the update soon as the release came out but we are still the first to get it were other mega devices are not getting it at least December or Xmas the earliest..So am still thankful for the Nexus line. But that will start not meaning anything soon anyway if they carry this new strategy of there to put money first before anything else.
But till then please take a chill pill people.
This will get shut down and deleted am sure but i just wanted people to read this and seriously take it easy till there is ACTUAL CONFIRMATION by GOOGLE THEMSELVES..
Mods sorry if this should not be here but sometimes a man has enough when reading through the forums and having whiny kids whine all the time.
And to add...We are XDA...If things go missing and are not included in the build that our beloved N4 should get then people trust our great and respectful Developers here who are if you do not mind me saying better than those at Google..We will have those features that the N5 has and if not should be better build than stock...So please show your support for our devs and less whining and help this place for newbies instead of moaning all the time about something that has not been confirmed yet

:highfive: for you!
This is exactly my opinion on the subject.
If you are on XDA, odds are that you know how to mod your phone, and believe me, everything that will not come with the official OTA will be made avaliable soon here on XDA.
Right, you might need root, you can argue you do not want to root but then what is the point of your anger if you do not want to take action to get something you want?
Just wait for Google to release the OTA and everything will be clear!
Should be soon I guess

Ignasiuz said:
:highfive: for you!
This is exactly my opinion on the subject.
If you are on XDA, odds are that you know how to mod your phone, and believe me, everything that will not come with the official OTA will be made avaliable soon here on XDA.
Right, you might need root, you can argue you do not want to root but then what is the point of your anger if you do not want to take action to get something you want?
Just wait for Google to release the OTA and everything will be clear!
Should be soon I guess
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exactly my friend. until something has been confirmed i do not understand why people are panicking. and by the next update which will be by summer time our phone should be more than capable to handle it and i am sure we are in for that to. phones should have a support from the OS development team ie Google at least maximum two years...so why are people are stressed is beyond me.
Now as the Galaxy Nexus that is a strange one and Google should state the reasons why they are not supporting it but again that is nothing to do with me or concerns me..But for people to start saying that the N4 is next is beyond silly to say

Goku80 said:
But again were is the official confirmation that the launcher will not be included for our device? There is none. Just tech sites writing there stuff as usual and every one is lapping it up and making a fuss.
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Sure there is confirmation. It is not included in the Nexus 7 WiFi KitKat update. And Google confirmed it with The Verge and said it is possible they will bring it to other devices other than the N5 someday but not initially.

Great post OP.. You know what I think it is? Purely my opinion after mulling over how absolutely weird the 4.4 rollout and release has been.
Ever been in a corporate environment where someone important is replaced? It's hell.. JBQ left and was replaced.. So here you have a new guy who is pulling the old corporate "I'm new and have to flex my superiority and change things to make it look like I'm doing something different and being productive" (ie: Fishing for his next promotion).. This happens in nearly every business.. It's hilarious to watch happen in real life because most employees know it's coming.. 3 months later after everyone hates the new guy and his useless changes everything goes right back to the way it was. I'm certain all the rumblings this is causing is being heard..

This is all very nice but it makes my think longer and hard did l make the right decision buying a nexus 4.With the ota out for nexus 7 and 10 l just wonder what the delay is with nexus 4
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In b4 lock

No please, not again.
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forever_lol said:
No please, not again.
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Its called discussion. If you do not want to participate then don't post. Hence why the other thread got closed
Cause useless posts like yours
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Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" (btw weren't you the one that also happened to "whine" at the beginning? ) so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion won't be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and eventually closed.
But you're right. If am not interested to participate so I am done. Good luck though, I am sure you're get many "thanks".
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Goku80 said:
Now as the Galaxy Nexus that is a strange one and Google should state the reasons why they are not supporting it but again that is nothing to do with me or concerns me..But for people to start saying that the N4 is next is beyond silly to say
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It has to do with the Ti core not being supported anymore. Also, not being supported by Ti did not meant it doesn't work for Galaxy Nexus, just means Google would not support a device without former support to its hardware.
Anyways, Galaxy Nexus got 4.4 already, go Install it

forever_lol said:
Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion will be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and closed. Good luck though
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Isn't this the waiting room for nexus 4 owners that are waiting on the ota?

forever_lol said:
Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" (btw weren't you the one that also happened to "whine" at the beginning? ) so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion won't be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and eventually closed.
But you're right. If am not interested to participate so I am done. Good luck though, I am sure you're get many "thanks".
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It is not about getting many thanks..To be honest got enough already as it is. Now moving on

a g bell said:
This is all very nice but it makes my think longer and hard did l make the right decision buying a nexus 4.With the ota out for nexus 7 and 10 l just wonder what the delay is with nexus 4
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Notice the GSM/LTE tablets haven't got an update yet either...

RealiZms said:
Isn't this the waiting room for nexus 4 owners that are waiting on the ota?
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To be honest the reason why i opened this thread is to get my opinion about the many things that i have read on the forum. Many false information that is going around by others is beyond ridiculous because they listen to tech sites most of them without any proper confirmation by Google itself...Now as to regarding the updates that are coming for our device if there is an official changelog by Google to say what are the changes from the older nexus devices compare to the N5 then i will eat my hat if it is out already stating what we are getting and missing out on..
But again people forget that XDA is here to help..Hence why we should not be ranting and raving
What am trying to say is that i want this thread to stick to a proper adult discussion about our device regarding the build that we should get..And i do not want people to give mis-information till we get it from the Big Boss itself

Sent from my Nexus 4

I can understand your point here OP but, the purpose of forums such as this one is to allow for open discussion on a topic. I see no issue with speculation or assumption as long as people keep their heads. That is, after all, what makes things interesting and keeps people intrigued. If we went purely on the facts at hand 100% of the time, discussions would end fairly quickly and most forums would be desolate places.
Just my .02

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Possible KNOX Reset Found By NOTE

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2486346&page=68
In the NOTE 3 form there is a pretty high bounty getting near 3k. The top post as of right now on the page linked by user mahmoud007
seems to have instruction for resetting KNOX and downgrading to 4.2.2! As I have the Sprint version of the GS4 I cannot test or confirm this but though it was well worth sharing. Especially if someone could try using this users method on our phone dear god I would love it!

LordKoga said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...486346&page=68
In the NOTE 3 form there is a pretty high bounty getting near 3k. The top post as of right now on the page linked by user mahmoud007
seems to have instruction for resetting KNOX and downgrading to 4.2.2! As I have the Sprint version of the GS4 I cannot test or confirm this but though it was well worth sharing. Especially if someone could try using this users method on our phone dear god I would love it!
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From the looks of the article, it seems that the guy who has the solution has trouble writing English. Either way, it's a good thing developers are resolving this.

Clicking that link renders the "invalid forum specified" error.I truly hope this mahmoud007 fellow's theory proves valid and his method works. I just scolded him for cross-posting a hypothetical solution for the S4 i9505 because the reason he cited for not wanting to test his own creation was that he was still under his Manufacturer's Warranty. After I clarified that the KNOX Warranty bit was unrelated to Samsung's service warranty, and asked why he felt it appropriate to request others risk permanently altering their own devices using a method he created and wasn't confident enough to test out on his own, each and every copy of the cross-post vanished within minutes. With luck, some admin wiped them out so his work couldn't be plagiarized before the applicable bounty could be announced.
Good luck, mahmoud. Here's to hoping XDA's senior developers are working with you at this very moment and that you've made history by cracking KNOX.
-Zen

FallenZen said:
Clicking that link renders the "invalid forum specified" error.I truly hope this mahmoud007 fellow's theory proves valid and his method works. I just scolded him for cross-posting a hypothetical solution for the S4 i9505 because the reason he cited for not wanting to test his own creation was that he was still under his Manufacturer's Warranty. After I clarified that the KNOX Warranty bit was unrelated to Samsung's service warranty, and asked why he felt it appropriate to request others risk permanently altering their own devices using a method he created and wasn't confident enough to test out on his own, each and every copy of the cross-post vanished within minutes. With luck, some admin wiped them out so his work couldn't be plagiarized before the applicable bounty could be announced.
Good luck, mahmoud. Here's to hoping XDA's senior developers are working with you at this very moment and that you've made history by cracking KNOX.
-Zen
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Your right his post is gone from the original thread he posted it to..... I really hope it pans out though.

Nothing is gone once it's on the internet. His posts were copied I promise you.
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As a side note the thread is quite interesting and rather active. Lots Of different areas of research. It's only a matter of time before a solution is found,
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I believe someone was successful in doing it check this thread out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500823
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LordKoga said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2486346&page=68
In the NOTE 3 form there is a pretty high bounty getting near 3k. The top post as of right now on the page linked by user mahmoud007
seems to have instruction for resetting KNOX and downgrading to 4.2.2! As I have the Sprint version of the GS4 I cannot test or confirm this but though it was well worth sharing. Especially if someone could try using this users method on our phone dear god I would love it!
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I would really love getting this removed

From what I read the OP of that that said he was in contact with someone from the s 4 forums. Who that person is idk... Well the soak up. . I sure do hope so because I'm sure a lot of us here at least want some insight to If we are getting closer to getting the devil removed from our bootloader and if we can downgrade
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[Q] 5,674,187 members and not one of you answer

I know I am new here and have been asking a question for a couple of days now and I would think with this many members at least someone would step up to the plate an offer some help or tell me where to go for being a newbie. Come on now I sure could use some help here. Please?

It would be a lot more productive if you actually posted what you needed help with...

At least someone out here is alive
pingstary said:
It would be a lot more productive if you actually posted what you needed help with...
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Thanks for the reply. I have for the past 2 days in a row. I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 mini SM-G730A with a locked bootloader that I need to figure out how to get unlocked so I can change carrier on. I love the phone and want to keep it but my patience has all but worn thin on. I have tried just about everything I can find out on the internet on and nothing has worked so far.

texasgoldbuyer said:
Thanks for the reply. I have for the past 2 days in a row. I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 mini SM-G730A with a locked bootloader that I need to figure out how to get unlocked so I can change carrier on. I love the phone and want to keep it but my patience has all but worn thin on. I have tried just about everything I can find out on the internet on and nothing has worked so far.
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If you searched through some of the threads regarding the SM--G730A you would've learned that it's bootloader is not unlocked yet, and there exists no way to unlock it as of yet. I don't think any active developers have that phone either, and to my knowledge only a recovery has been built for the phone (but you can't flash it because of the locked bootloader), only root has been achieved for your phone.
The phone you have isn't the S3 Mini here (the S3 mini here is the GT-I8190), Samsung's naming conventions are really stupid at times - your phone and the GT-I8190 have nothing in common outside of it's name. I think the GT-I8190 was marketed heavily overseas in Europe and such, whereas your model's only available in the States and Canada.

Thanks for the reply
Exothermic said:
If you searched through some of the threads regarding the SM--G730A you would've learned that it's bootloader is not unlocked yet, and there exists no way to unlock it as of yet. I don't think any active developers have that phone either, and to my knowledge only a recovery has been built for the phone (but you can't flash it because of the locked bootloader), only root has been achieved for your phone.
The phone you have isn't the S3 Mini here (the S3 mini here is the GT-I8190), Samsung's naming conventions are really stupid at times - your phone and the GT-I8190 have nothing in common outside of it's name. I think the GT-I8190 was marketed heavily overseas in Europe and such, whereas your model's only available in the States and Canada.
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Well Thanks. Now I know what to do. I will get another phone and get rid of this pile of crap. That is why I switched to Linux I wanted my machine to do what I wanted not what some pencil neck billionaire told me it had to do. Thanks and I will go get me a new phone tomorrow....

texasgoldbuyer said:
Well Thanks. Now I know what to do. I will get another phone and get rid of this pile of crap. That is why I switched to Linux I wanted my machine to do what I wanted not what some pencil neck billionaire told me it had to do. Thanks and I will go get me a new phone tomorrow....
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Just a tip - search through xda to see if there's any active development on your phone, it'll save you a crapload of trouble, and I'd also avoid verizon and at&t phones in general because of their tendency to lock boot-loaders, I notice the google play edition of phones and the t-mobile versions tend to have unlocked boot-loaders and have better support.
Oh and google's dropped the price on the Nexus 5, about $320 usd for the 16gb, if you're interested and have the money.

Thanks Again
Exothermic said:
Just a tip - search through xda to see if there's any active development on your phone, it'll save you a crapload of trouble, and I'd also avoid verizon and at&t phones in general because of their tendency to lock boot-loaders, I notice the google play edition of phones and the t-mobile versions tend to have unlocked boot-loaders and have better support.
Oh and google's dropped the price on the Nexus 5, about $320 usd for the 16gb, if you're interested and have the money.
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I'm looking for a T-Mobile phone now. Thanks for all the replies and have a good one.

your best friend is google.
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factorexh said:
your best friend is google.
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+1 to this.
To OP =because not at all members active in this thread sometimes your question is on thread already and lazy to answer repeatedly. Sell your phone and buy another nexus or GT must prefer lot of dev using it
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you can allways pm me i will help if i can. good luck

i personally see no point in helping some one who posts a thread like this
such a spoiled selfish approach demanding the community to reply to a thread
same goes for any thread posted about if this phone is worth buying

efaustino84 said:
i personally see no point in helping some one who posts a thread like this
such a spoiled selfish approach demanding the community to reply to a thread
same goes for any thread posted about if this phone is worth buying
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+1
No one knows how to search ?

Petition AT&Ts c.e.o. Randall Stephenson to offer bootloader unlocking service

Hello!
I've started the petition "att give us the freedom to modify and build. unlock our bootloaders" and need your help to get it off the ground.
Will you take 30 seconds to sign it right now? Here's the link:
http://www.change.org/petitions/att-give-us-the-freedom-to-modify-and-build-unlock-our-bootloaders
Here's why it's important:
The reason this is important is people spend hundreds of dollars on their mobile device (cellphone, tablets, etc.) Only to be restricted on customizing their device the way they want to and running custom kernels for better performance or even custom roms which are what make these devices worth having. So it gets left up to some dev who has probably already got a lot on his plate, and is only paid in thanks and beer money, which for some is OK but I think they deserve more cause they just did what the carrier should have. In short I feel if at&t can't give their customers freedom on there expensive devices we should stop using at&t service. Filled out from my galaxy S5 sm-g870a with Locked bootloader.
You can sign my petition by clicking here.
Thanks!
joey goetz
The Gods Approve This Post, From The Ghost Of Sparta's S5 active.

or you could have signed this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470167

jerrycoffman45 said:
or you could have signed this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470167
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Signed. thank you for the link could you please sign mine.hopfully if we put a bug up their butt maybe we will get results.
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US Varients (AT&T/T-MOBILE/VERIZON)root progress thread.

I have searched the forums and the web trying to find a thread for a "root progress" (like the one we had on the LG V30 side of the world) of our T-MOBILE/AT&T/VERIZON/SPRINT note 9, but didn't find any. If there is one already, please remove this thread and provide me a link to it if you may.
Anyway,
There are two reasons why I'm creating this thread:
1. We used to have forums that are carrier specific. It was very neat and organized. I'd never gotten confused on finding something related to my device. Now, it is just one and very very cluttered forum for all varients (to the point that I'm not sure which variant is rootable and which isn't. And that's why I left out the sprint varient because I'm honestly not sure). There are so many threads that makes it so hard to find what you're looking for.
2. I'd like to know if there are any devs out there that are working on root for this phone (on the carriers mentioned above) and whether they need help testing. If there is; I'm sure there are a ton of users who are willing to help, including me.
I'd love for some devs to chime in and give us some updates. Not asking for any ETAs, but would love to know if there is any work being done. If there is, then please consider this thread to share your progress with us
So, feel free to throw your comments on here. Also, if you're a user who's wondering about root, has thoughts about root, would like to chat about it, go ahead, vent it out.
Cheers
::good::
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I am also interest in US variant root progress. I am on Sprint though. Wish you had included us too in OP. I am willing to test out if anyone is developing.

Hi
Great idea, maybe if we show interest some of the dev's might take up the challenge.
We can hope.
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Wont ever happen thats why i returned it and got the 960f for tmobile i left sprijt

It's a pipe dream to get root on the US variants. Samsung has even blocked SamFail and similar root. The bootloaders cannot be unlocked and the snapdragon processor models are doomed.
Join @pbedard, myself, and others; return your snapdragon model and buy the 960F.
The Note 9 is great, but it's amazing with root. ??

K-alz said:
I have searched the forums and the web trying to find a thread for a "root progress" (like the one we had on the LG V30 side of the world) of our T-MOBILE/AT&T/VERIZON note 9, but didn't find any. If there is one already, please remove this thread and provide me a link to it if you may.
Anyway,
There are two reasons why I'm creating this thread:
1. We used to have forums that are carrier specific. It was very neat and organized. I'd never gotten confused on finding something related to my device. Now, it is just one and very very cluttered forum for all varients (to the point that I'm not sure which variant is rootable and which isn't. And that's why I left out the sprint varient because I'm honestly not sure). There are so many threads that makes it so hard to find what you're looking for.
2. I'd like to know if there are any devs out there that are working on root for this phone (on the carriers mentioned above) and whether they need help testing. If there is; I'm sure there are a ton of users who are willing to help, including me.
I'd love for some devs to chime in and give us some updates. Not asking for any ETAs, but would love to know if there is any work being done. If there is, then please consider this thread to share your progress with us
So, feel free to throw your comments on here. Also, if you're a user who's wondering about root, has thoughts about root, would like to chat about it, go ahead, vent it out.
Cheers
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carrier specific should be banned and never be implemented again.
it causes confusion and is just a waste of resources. people ask questions and get less visibility because 90% of all questions or releases are CPU based and not carrier related.
it's simply a less efficient way of going about things.
carrier related issues and questions should actually be discussed in that specific carriers website. what good is it to discuss or bring up carriers issues in xda when you actually want and need carriers support and visibility from their end to fix or correct their issues?
issues that are based on device type or general custom development should be kept on xda as is: by cpu. there are sections for general inquires and such that can easily be used for the 10% asking questions or support for a specific carrier.
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extra extra read all about it:
no root for the n960 snapdragon. it's a moot point and progress is that there is no progress. I'd think if the people that were working and progressing getting root were actually getting somewhere they would have already posted info by now. speculative threads wishing for something is not progress and I don't think its gonna " attract " people to suddenly develope root because if it.
it will come when it does if it does.
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to prove my point for the carrier thing:
in Canada we also have the note 9 snapdragon.
960w Bell/rogers/telus/videotron/wind mobile...etc and so on.
should the forums be re-spliced for all of these too? lol no

Sorkovz said:
I am also interest in US variant root progress. I am on Sprint though. Wish you had included us too in OP. I am willing to test out if anyone is developing.
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Sorry, budd. Didn't know that you guys didn't have root either. I'll edit later.
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The way Samsung has been locking phones the past few years I'm starting to wonder why I shouldn't try an iPhone out.
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deh2002 said:
The way Samsung has been locking phones the past few years I'm starting to wonder why I shouldn't try an iPhone out.
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I was telling myself the same thing.. then snapped out of it and got an LG lol. Get a Pixel or any other brand if you value root.

deh2002 said:
The way Samsung has been locking phones the past few years I'm starting to wonder why I shouldn't try an iPhone out.
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its really the carriers imo.. well the US mainly haha.. most all other devices are unlockable outside of the US..
but agreed, especially with the RMM stuff they implemented recently even on unlockable devices..

Megaflop666 said:
It's a pipe dream to get root on the US variants. Samsung has even blocked SamFail and similar root. The bootloaders cannot be unlocked and the snapdragon processor models are doomed.
Join @pbedard, myself, and others; return your snapdragon model and buy the 960F.
The Note 9 is great, but it's amazing with root. [emoji1303]
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I honestly cant afford to pay for this phone outright. I wish I could. I would've gotten the exynos varient and called it a day, financing through tmobile was the only option I had to get my hands on this phone. Even without root, it's still a stellar phone.
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Is root even worth it anymore tbh ? What if we tried to get Volte and wifi calling working on the unbranded firmware ?

K-alz said:
I honestly cant afford to pay for this phone outright. I wish I could. I would've gotten the exynos varient and called it a day, financing through tmobile was the only option I had to get my hands on this phone. Even without root, it's still a stellar phone.
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You could have gotten one on ebay and pay it over six months with the PayPal Credit option. That's what I did to get Exynos model.
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daniel4653 said:
You could have gotten one on ebay and pay it over six months with the PayPal Credit option. That's what I did to get Exynos model.
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Didn't know that. Crap. I missed my chance :/
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