Anyone coming from a Nexus 5? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have been using my N5 for a while now and have zero problems with it. However, the Z line is a looker and I am contemplating trading my nexus 5 for a Z1. Does anyone here have any experience with both phones? How do they stack up against each other? I use my phone mostly for whatsapp and playing Clash of Clans. Looking for smooth, lag free operation and good battery life. I dont intend to use the camera all that much.
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anirudh412 said:
I have been using my N5 for a while now and have zero problems with it. However, the Z line is a looker and I am contemplating trading my nexus 5 for a Z1. Does anyone here have any experience with both phones? How do they stack up against each other? I use my phone mostly for whatsapp and playing Clash of Clans. Looking for smooth, lag free operation and good battery life. I dont intend to use the camera all that much.
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Hey! I had a N5 prior to the Z1.
I love the N5, in some ways it is the perfect XDA phone. I swapped simply because I wanted to try something with better build quility. As you're aware, the camera on the N5 isn't great, one of the cut backs to get it so cheap. The Z1 camera is fantastic (or else it is compared to the N5.) Also, the finish of the phone is classy compared to the N5 (another cut back.)
As for speed: out of the box the N5 is faster. They are both running the same processor, though the N5 is clocked slightly faster. Obviously the N5 is running vanilla android, though in all fairness the sony skin isn't particularly intrusive. Not that the Z1 is slow. I'm running Kitslim rom with doomkernel overclocked at 2.4, with thermal throttle off. It's very quick, just not as quick as a N5 say with trinity and rasta. Although to counter this, even overclocked I get better battery from the Z1.
They are both very good phones. one thing I really miss on the N5 is the huge amount of roms to try. I'm a flash addict, and there's some good roms for the Z1, but so so many more for the N5. Worth thinking about if you flash a lot.
I'm not sure if this helps. I love the Z1. It does everything I need it to really well. It's a beautiful phone, and quick. Every so often though I miss the freedom to flash that you get from the N5 community.

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Hey! I had a N5 prior to the Z1.
I love the N5, in some ways it is the perfect XDA phone. I swapped simply because I wanted to try something with better build quility. As you're aware, the camera on the N5 isn't great, one of the cut backs to get it so cheap. The Z1 camera is fantastic (or else it is compared to the N5.) Also, the finish of the phone is classy compared to the N5 (another cut back.)
As for speed: out of the box the N5 is faster. They are both running the same processor, though the N5 is clocked slightly faster. Obviously the N5 is running vanilla android, though in all fairness the sony skin isn't particularly intrusive. Not that the Z1 is slow. I'm running Kitslim rom with doomkernel overclocked at 2.4, with thermal throttle off. It's very quick, just not as quick as a N5 say with trinity and rasta. Although to counter this, even overclocked I get better battery from the Z1.
They are both very good phones. one thing I really miss on the N5 is the huge amount of roms to try. I'm a flash addict, and there's some good roms for the Z1, but so so many more for the N5. Worth thinking about if you flash a lot.
I'm not sure if this helps. I love the Z1. It does everything I need it to really well. It's a beautiful phone, and quick. Every so often though I miss the freedom to flash that you get from the N5 community.
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Thank you for that brilliant reply. Having been with Android for so many years now, i managed to rid myself of 'flash addiction' Once I find a ROM that gives me the best battery life and snappy performance, like i find with Slimkat on the N5, i dont flash anymore. Actually, once a setup works for me, i dont even flash an update to the same ROM.
So, if I am to consider buying the Z1, my main criteria would be smooth, buttery performance each and every time. I think its safe to assume the Z1 lasts longer on a charge than the N5. So, with a custom ROM and slight OC, the Z1 performs just as well as the N5? And what about heating up of the phone?
Again, thank you all for your replies.

Paradelle said:
Hey! I had a N5 prior to the Z1.
I love the N5, in some ways it is the perfect XDA phone. I swapped simply because I wanted to try something with better build quility. As you're aware, the camera on the N5 isn't great, one of the cut backs to get it so cheap. The Z1 camera is fantastic (or else it is compared to the N5.) Also, the finish of the phone is classy compared to the N5 (another cut back.)
As for speed: out of the box the N5 is faster. They are both running the same processor, though the N5 is clocked slightly faster. Obviously the N5 is running vanilla android, though in all fairness the sony skin isn't particularly intrusive. Not that the Z1 is slow. I'm running Kitslim rom with doomkernel overclocked at 2.4, with thermal throttle off. It's very quick, just not as quick as a N5 say with trinity and rasta. Although to counter this, even overclocked I get better battery from the Z1.
They are both very good phones. one thing I really miss on the N5 is the huge amount of roms to try. I'm a flash addict, and there's some good roms for the Z1, but so so many more for the N5. Worth thinking about if you flash a lot.
I'm not sure if this helps. I love the Z1. It does everything I need it to really well. It's a beautiful phone, and quick. Every so often though I miss the freedom to flash that you get from the N5 community.
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N5 display is better then Z1?

The Z1 is obviously the better device, if you can live with slower updates,
With the z1 you get better camera, better build quality, better battery life, sd card support & waterproofness.

Jiyeon90 said:
The Z1 is obviously the better device, if you can live with slower updates,
With the z1 you get better camera, better build quality, better battery life, sd card support & waterproofness.
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I think that 'obviously' is a strong word. Yes, what you say is true, but also the N5 is way faster than the Z1, it's much cheaper, and it will continue to get updates long after the Z1 is left languishing on kitkat. Also the XDA community for the N5 is large and active.
Not trying to start an argument here, but the OP seemed to be asking for impartial advice.
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N5 display is better then Z1?
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I think it depends on what you prefer. I like the screens on both, and there's little to choose.

Paradelle said:
I think that 'obviously' is a strong word. Yes, what you say is true, but also the N5 is way faster than the Z1, it's much cheaper, and it will continue to get updates long after the Z1 is left languishing on kitkat. Also the XDA community for the N5 is large and active.
Not trying to start an argument here, but the OP seemed to be asking for impartial advice.
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I think it depends on what you prefer. I like the screens on both, and there's little to choose.
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You are right about the updates and the big community the nexus 5 has here, but what do you mean way faster? I have tried the nexus 5 and I own the z1, both are really snappy and smooth as butter, maybe you are using a custom ROM on your Z1?
You can even see here that the Z1 opens most apps quicker than the nexus 5
http://youtu.be/udaw7So5hzE

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You are right about the updates and the big community the nexus 5 has here, but what do you mean way faster? I have tried the nexus 5 and I own the z1, both are really snappy and smooth as butter, maybe you are using a custom ROM on your Z1?
You can even see here that the Z1 opens most apps quicker than the nexus 5
http://youtu.be/udaw7So5hzE
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They are both quick, there's no doubt. I've owned both. For me the stock N5 is quicker than stock Z1. I found that everything was just a bit quicker. Also, I cannot remember getting any lag on the stock N5, where as Z1 stock does.
It's so subjective though. And device dependent. I probably prefer the Z1. I use the camera a lot (I have a 3 year old daughter who won't sit still so this is a big plus for me. Also, it's much nicer aesthetically. I just occasionally miss being able to flash a new rom each night!

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They are both quick, there's no doubt. I've owned both. For me the stock N5 is quicker than stock Z1. I found that everything was just a bit quicker. Also, I cannot remember getting any lag on the stock N5, where as Z1 stock does.
It's so subjective though. And device dependent. I probably prefer the Z1. I use the camera a lot (I have a 3 year old daughter who won't sit still so this is a big plus for me. Also, it's much nicer aesthetically. I just occasionally miss being able to flash a new rom each night!
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Fair enough, both are great devices so OP cant go wrong with any of them

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The new Nexus4 is out

Original post here: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/10/nexus-best-of-google-now-in-three-sizes.html
I love my Incredible S. But damn you Google, that offer is unbeatable.
@Mod: if it is not allow to post here, then I am sorry. Plz delete this thread. I don't mean to spam the forum.
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Original post here: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/10/nexus-best-of-google-now-in-three-sizes.html
I love my Incredible S. But damn you Google, that offer is unbeatable.
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AWESOME! Gf is getting me the Nexus 10 for Xmas, and I'll buy myself a Nexus 4 around the same time! 2560x1600 10" display, here I come! :highfive:
Never thought that the price would be so unbeatable! Maaan, why did I buy a Galaxy Nexus?
Oh for the love of god! What is with the lack of expandable storage in Nexus devices? I mean, this looks like the perfect device for me, but that lack of an SD Card is a real killer. 16 gig maximum storage, and no option to upgrade? What is this, an iPhone?
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Oh for the love of god! What is with the lack of expandable storage in Nexus devices? I mean, this looks like the perfect device for me, but that lack of an SD Card is a real killer. 16 gig maximum storage, and no option to upgrade? What is this, an iPhone?
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Yeah, I know. My 32GB SD card has only 10GB free.
I only ever use around 6gb I clean up my stuff a lot.
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ZaySk said:
AWESOME! Gf is getting me the Nexus 10 for Xmas, and I'll buy myself a Nexus 4 around the same time! 2560x1600 10" display, here I come! :highfive:
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No offence but having a Nexus 7 now, I think it would be a bit boring to have two AOSP devices. Especially coming from sense I used to have AOSP before my N7, but now I only use sense on my IncS
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I only ever use around 6gb I clean up my stuff a lot.
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Same here, I used an 8GB for about half a year before upgrading to 16GB. Never had a problem with space, I just delete apps I don't use and clean out junk folders. I also backup important stuff on my SD card, and then format it every couple of months to keep it clean.
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No offence but having a Nexus 7 now, I think it would be a bit boring to have two AOSP devices. Especially coming from sense I used to have AOSP before my N7, but now I only use sense on my IncS
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While you do have a good point, I've never liked Sense or other skins anyways. Given the choice, I'd always choose an AOSP ROM over a Sense ROM. Pretty much the only reason I'm using a Sense ROM is because it's stable. Sense ROM's are fun to play around with for something new, but I quickly get bored of the limited options available in Rosie and uninstall it and replace it with Apex Launcher. Even tweaked Sense bores me, plus Sense is pretty heavy and I always feel like AOSP is noticeably smoother.
Plus, with a Nexus, I wouldn't have to put up with half-assed, hacked together AOSP ROM's. No offense to any devs! It's just stupid that some things related to a device (drivers, company proprietary libs etc) are never available and have to be hacked to work. I hate that, it's very annoying. With a Nexus, I don't have to worry about that. (I think?...)
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Same here, I used an 8GB for about half a year before upgrading to 16GB. Never had a problem with space, I just delete apps I don't use and clean out junk folders. I also backup important stuff on my SD card, and then format it every couple of months to keep it clean.
While you do have a good point, I've never liked Sense or other skins anyways. Given the choice, I'd always choose an AOSP ROM over a Sense ROM. Pretty much the only reason I'm using a Sense ROM is because it's stable. Sense ROM's are fun to play around with for something new, but I quickly get bored of the limited options available in Rosie and uninstall it and replace it with Apex Launcher. Even tweaked Sense bores me, plus Sense is pretty heavy and I always feel like AOSP is noticeably smoother.
Plus, with a Nexus, I wouldn't have to put up with half-assed, hacked together AOSP ROM's. No offense to any devs! It's just stupid that some things related to a device (drivers, company proprietary libs etc) are never available and have to be hacked to work. I hate that, it's very annoying. With a Nexus, I don't have to worry about that. (I think?...)
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I have a 16gb N7 and 16gb card in my phone, they get filled with backups of roms lol
I use dropbox and I have a USB OTG cable for all the haevy stuff like movies
I completely agree with your statement on AOSP roms and their stability. While some roms are quite good and fast, none can match a proper AOSP device, like a nexus. None. My N7 is super fast and I underclock it to 1.15GHz to save battery
This is the reason I might be going Sony next: their roms are quite AOSP-like and their source is similar to AOSP, no big changes like Samsung and HTC
Most AOSP and other JB roms for other devices (I mean custom roms) do not have proper project butter working, eg. CM10 on the exynos devices because there is no proper source for drivers and stuff. Although this might change with the Nexus 10
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I have a 16gb N7 and 16gb card in my phone, they get filled with backups of roms lol
I use dropbox and I have a USB OTG cable for all the haevy stuff like movies
I completely agree with your statement on AOSP roms and their stability. While some roms are quite good and fast, none can match a proper AOSP device, like a nexus. None. My N7 is super fast and I underclock it to 1.15GHz to save battery
This is the reason I might be going Sony next: their roms are quite AOSP-like and their source is similar to AOSP, no big changes like Samsung and HTC
Most AOSP and other JB roms for other devices (I mean custom roms) do not have proper project butter working, eg. CM10 on the exynos devices because there is no proper source for drivers and stuff. Although this might change with the Nexus 10
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I used to have a crapload of backups as well, but I realized it would be more efficient to simply keep one backup of my favorite ROM at the time. I try to keep that one backup as current as possible. I gotta get an external HDD to store my music and movies as well
Yes we did have some great devs working on AOSP for our device, and they did a damn great job IMO. It's just the company that limits how good AOSP ROM's are due to not releasing sources for certain components, forcing the community to resort to hacks and other trickery to get it working properly. Damn it must be nice to be able to actually underclock without creating a laggy device. I feel like it's absolutely necessary to OC the Inc S to 1.3 GHz on AOSP, and 1.4-5GHz on Sense, in order to get a decent experience. Not that big of a deal, seeing as there were quite a few phones released with the same SoC as ours, but ran at 1.4GHz stock so the SoC can obviously handle the OC, luckily.
I'm strongly considering Sony as well, if they release a device by Xmas that has at least an S4 Pro SoC, preferably a true Cortex A-15 based SoC. They seem to be one of few companies that really do open up their phones completely for the community, and that's pretty much the #1 most important decision that will decide what phone I get.
ZaySk said:
I used to have a crapload of backups as well, but I realized it would be more efficient to simply keep one backup of my favorite ROM at the time. I try to keep that one backup as current as possible. I gotta get an external HDD to store my music and movies as well
Yes we did have some great devs working on AOSP for our device, and they did a damn great job IMO. It's just the company that limits how good AOSP ROM's are due to not releasing sources for certain components, forcing the community to resort to hacks and other trickery to get it working properly. Damn it must be nice to be able to actually underclock without creating a laggy device. I feel like it's absolutely necessary to OC the Inc S to 1.3 GHz on AOSP, and 1.4-5GHz on Sense, in order to get a decent experience. Not that big of a deal, seeing as there were quite a few phones released with the same SoC as ours, but ran at 1.4GHz stock so the SoC can obviously handle the OC, luckily.
I'm strongly considering Sony as well, if they release a device by Xmas that has at least an S4 Pro SoC, preferably a true Cortex A-15 based SoC. They seem to be one of few companies that really do open up their phones completely for the community, and that's pretty much the #1 most important decision that will decide what phone I get.
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Wow I keep mine at 1024MHz all the time. I overclock it to 1.4 sometimes when I play heavy games but that is it. I don't think my N7 has ever seen past 1.4GHz, when I was testing one of faux123's kernels
I think Sony might wait until MWC next year in Jan or whenever it is, because they just released new phones. But I don't need top performance on my phone anymore, I use it for calling, texting, xda-ing and a bit of internet. I play games and do more processor-intensive things on my Nexus 7
Did you guys see this video? It makes me want to buy one next
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
I like the look of it, and the hardware. And of course the charger *drools*
I hope they'll release a 32gb model :/
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Ihad considered this but in England LG does not have the best reputation so I tend to stay away. Also, the HOX+ is meant to have one of the better cameras around and I don't know how is feel if the N4 cam isn't as good. I've also became a fan of sense .....
However, I am deffo getting the N10 device. I'll probs get it after Xmas when the initial rush has gone. Then I can read my magazines, books and general browsing easyier than on a phone.
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I worry that these Nexus devices may start a president with regards to lack of removable storage. I understand Google's thinking behind using the Cloud as a portable storage medium, but my 500mb a month contract means downloading/streaming anything over data is pretty much out of the question. And living in the sticks means my data connection is flaky most of the time anyway. Until the price of truly 'unlimited' data plans drops considerably, and until coverage becomes better for non-built up areas, cloud storage is pointless for me.
I also notice there's no support for LTE on this device, but given the price that's hardly an issue.
Think I'll be waiting for the 32gb model to.
For me 16GB is totally enough. I had 8GB for a year and it was a bit too less but now I have 16GB on my GNex and I never get it even close to full So no Cloud stuff for me
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For me 16GB is totally enough. I had 8GB for a year and it was a bit too less but now I have 16GB on my GNex and I never get it even close to full So no Cloud stuff for me
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Well for me, I like to download videos like anime and comedy sketches, I guess that's why I need lots of space. And maybe because I have The Dark Knight Rises, Order & Chaos Online in my phone :/
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markj338 said:
Wow I keep mine at 1024MHz all the time. I overclock it to 1.4 sometimes when I play heavy games but that is it. I don't think my N7 has ever seen past 1.4GHz, when I was testing one of faux123's kernels
I think Sony might wait until MWC next year in Jan or whenever it is, because they just released new phones. But I don't need top performance on my phone anymore, I use it for calling, texting, xda-ing and a bit of internet. I play games and do more processor-intensive things on my Nexus 7
Did you guys see this video? It makes me want to buy one next
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
I like the look of it, and the hardware. And of course the charger *drools*
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I hate it when there's noticeable lag, and I've always been picky about the performance of all my technological devices lol. I'm actually running my CPU at 1.5GHz right now on smartassv2. I still get good battery life despite the big OC, and I haven't noticed any instability at all. Also helps that I UV'ed 50mv I've always preferred performance over battery life. I'd rather have a snappy device that dies an hour quicker, than a slightly laggy device that lasts longer.
Yea, that's what I was thinking. Unfortunate. But I really want that Nexus 4, especially at that price! I'll be honest, I love google right now. They're pushing the boundaries(in a good way) on pricing for top end devices, and I f**king love it!
Dat S4 Pro Quad....WANT
ZaySk said:
I hate it when there's noticeable lag, and I've always been picky about the performance of all my technological devices lol. I'm actually running my CPU at 1.5GHz right now on smartassv2. I still get good battery life despite the big OC, and I haven't noticed any instability at all. Also helps that I UV'ed 50mv I've always preferred performance over battery life. I'd rather have a snappy device that dies an hour quicker, than a slightly laggy device that lasts longer.
Yea, that's what I was thinking. Unfortunate. But I really want that Nexus 4, especially at that price! I'll be honest, I love google right now. They're pushing the boundaries(in a good way) on pricing for top end devices, and I f**king love it!
Dat S4 Pro Quad....WANT
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I hardly have any lag with my settings now
Mine can't handle any UV at 1.4GHz I noticed that while playing shadowgun, it kept freezing and not responding to anything but a battery pull
The only other thing that might keep me away is no 4G Hopefully the camera is a beast
Yeah the S4 quad looks really good. I can get the same performance with my N7 running at those speeds, but no way near the efficiency. I am also interested in the audio chip, because the S4 one is supposed to be really good, compared to the Tegra 3 one.
l0st.prophet has been very active in the N4 forums, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of us end up there. There is already an ex-desire S user off topic thread lol
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I hardly have any lag with my settings now
Mine can't handle any UV at 1.4GHz I noticed that while playing shadowgun, it kept freezing and not responding to anything but a battery pull
The only other thing that might keep me away is no 4G Hopefully the camera is a beast
Yeah the S4 quad looks really good. I can get the same performance with my N7 running at those speeds, but no way near the efficiency. I am also interested in the audio chip, because the S4 one is supposed to be really good, compared to the Tegra 3 one.
l0st.prophet has been very active in the N4 forums, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of us end up there. There is already an ex-desire S user off topic thread lol
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I still notice lag even at 1.5GHz sometimes. Annoying. Hmm that's strange, even at 1.5GHz I don't have any instabilities with UV. I really want to upgrade, to me the Inc S is showing its age internally. Especially in RAM, 2GB of RAM will be heaven. Still in love with the gorgeous color saturation in the screen though!
Meh, 4G isn't to big a deal for me. I have it available in Whitehorse, but HSPA+ is good enough for when I don't have wifi. I just can't resist the price, and I'm thinking about going on pay-as-you-go instead of the ass-rapingly expensive contracts. I practically never call anyone (who does these days?) so I only need data.
The S4 Pro's GPU especially looks very promising. Much better than the Mali 400 in the Exynos 4 series, according to early reports. Plus it's as close as I'll get to a Cortex A15 cpu That's great news, I was hoping the N4 would have a decent audio chip.
Hehe, let's all conspire to take over the N4 forums. All Inc S user's at once abandon this device, and move full force into the N4 forums! :silly::victory: Seriously though, the more people that come from this great community to the N4 forums, the better. :good:
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I still notice lag even at 1.5GHz sometimes. Annoying. Hmm that's strange, even at 1.5GHz I don't have any instabilities with UV. I really want to upgrade, to me the Inc S is showing its age internally. Especially in RAM, 2GB of RAM will be heaven. Still in love with the gorgeous color saturation in the screen though!
Meh, 4G isn't to big a deal for me. I have it available in Whitehorse, but HSPA+ is good enough for when I don't have wifi. I just can't resist the price, and I'm thinking about going on pay-as-you-go instead of the ass-rapingly expensive contracts. I practically never call anyone (who does these days?) so I only need data.
The S4 Pro's GPU especially looks very promising. Much better than the Mali 400 in the Exynos 4 series, according to early reports. Plus it's as close as I'll get to a Cortex A15 cpu That's great news, I was hoping the N4 would have a decent audio chip.
Hehe, let's all conspire to take over the N4 forums. All Inc S user's at once abandon this device, and move full force into the N4 forums! :silly::victory: Seriously though, the more people that come from this great community to the N4 forums, the better. :good:
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That's not fair Oh well, you use 1.5 more than I do I think its processor is showing its age. Some things I am used to using my N7 for, and the IncS is THAT much slower at doing things. But on Venom, everything is super smooth Same with your rom actually, although I used the ultra smooth rosie (I am too on Venom)
I am thinking about getting off a contract too, and buying the phone outright. But, when you add both up it would probably be cheaper still to go on a plan here, for maybe $50 a month or whatever they will give the N4 away free on
Yes, the GPU is a monster, apparently it smashes the Tegra 3 which has a massive GPU, super powered. The Tegra 3 is soo powerful, even at the underclocked speeds I have it at now, I can't actually imagine what you could do with more power at this time.
Don't abandon this device because I am staying here until May next year!

Would you still recommend Motorola Razr i?

Hi guys, sorry for opening a new topic.
The question is this: A year ago I had a Xperia Ray, wich was a good phone. I did the stupid move of trading it for a LG optimus black, and this ****ty phone didn't last for more than 4 months... Then, according to my posibilities, I got an ipod touch 4G and a small normal phone to stay in touch. Long history.
Now I have the chance of getting a new smartphone. First, I wanted the Motorola Razr D3 and I liked it but I see no development for it here in XDA, probably because this phone is mainly focused to the latin market. That phone has a very cheap price, and I see that it has a guaranteed Android upgrade, this makes me wonder if the phone is gonna be upgradable to 4.4 Kitkat or just to Android 4.2 or 4.3... Nobody seems to know it at the moment.
Then, I started to check the Motorola Razr i closely, and I saw a video of it when technically crushes the samsung galaxy s3 in performance and multi-tasking, then I saw there's development for it and that's a good thing. Now one important question: You guys honestly think Razr i will be upgraded to Android 4.4 KitKat?
There would be a big chance considering that Motorola is now part of Google.
In conclusion, I have only $385 US dollars available for getting my next phone. I don't have any phone service plan, I hate them, I always get my phones to work in prepaid mode. And I consider that spending more than $500 US dollars for a phone is not very intelligent (sorry about this if I offend somebody), plus, I'm not precisely rich to get the latest flagships.
This are my options at the moment:
-Motorola Razr i: intel inside, good performance, but I don't know if will be updated to Android 4.4. It's one year old. They also say camera has bad quality.
-Motorola Razr D3: dual core, but kinda old chipset and GPU, it comes with the promise of an Android update guaranteed (they don't specify wich version tough)
-Xperia L: I like Sony, and this one comes with dual core and Adreno GPU 305, but Sony fails hard when it's about upgrading their phones.
-Xperia M: Same case as L, plus the fact that it isn't available in my country yet.
-Any other option you would want to recommend me?
Now, why I'm opening this topic here? Because I like Motorola and I consider that this brand is synonymous of quality. I got Motorola phones years ago and they were very good. I really like Razr i and D3, they're small, compact, beautiful and give stock Android experience. Please guys, give your opinion and recommendations and anwer the main question.
Thanks in advance.
Yeh i recommend it, it's a nice phone and can get some updates, and it's a pretty smart, and have "low cost", if u can pay a bit more of course u can have some better phone with quad-core.
I find it a likeable phone, good for everything but it does not excel. Above all, reliable (after 9 months).
But it's currently updated to JB 4.1.1, and that's I think where it'll stay. (I kept it on the original 4.0.4 so I kept FM functionality and haven't noticed I've missed anything important). Moto are developing the Moto X (I think). The Razr is history, a bit of an in-betweener. So if a phone which gets the latest updates is important to you I wouldn't sadly touch the Razr i.
My other phone is an Xperia Z, bigger and better. But day to day I prefer the Razr i, and don't feel I'm missing out. But neither am I obsessed with the latest tweaks and mods. And because its processor is Intel, I think a bit of patience, intelligence, a willingness to learn and not to expect everything to be handed to you on a plate is in order; and it isn't a piece of electronic jewellery to impress your friends. But that's just like many good things in life.
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I find it a likeable phone, good for everything but it does not excel. Above all, reliable (after 9 months).
But it's currently updated to JB 4.1.1, and that's I think where it'll stay. (I kept it on the original 4.0.4 so I kept FM functionality and haven't noticed I've missed anything important). Moto are developing the Moto X (I think). The Razr is history, a bit of an in-betweener. So if a phone which gets the latest updates is important to you I wouldn't sadly touch the Razr i.
My other phone is an Xperia Z, bigger and better. But day to day I prefer the Razr i, and don't feel I'm missing out. But neither am I obsessed with the latest tweaks and mods. And because its processor is Intel, I think a bit of patience, intelligence, a willingness to learn and not to expect everything to be handed to you on a plate is in order; and it isn't a piece of electronic jewellery to impress your friends. But that's just like many good things in life.
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I will give you some ideas regarding the razr i
Keep in mind that the z2480 processor from the Razr i is single core WITH hyperthreading.
Gaming is going to be limited mostly by the GPU on these "cheap" phones.
If the game is written with native ARM code there will be binary translation occurring on the fly on the Razr i / and some games are not compatible.
The phone lasts 2 days of typical use, or 1 day of really heavy use (For example 1 day with 7-8 hour screen time while indoors).
The camera benefits with software tweaks, and with decent/good lightning it can take very good photos. Take a look at these photos which were taken and lightly post-processed -- they are outdoor photos as you can see.
https://plus.google.com/photos/111844992738896496541/albums/5580215365238675713/5911088854762682674?pid=5911088854762682674&oid=111844992738896496541
https://plus.google.com/photos/111844992738896496541/albums/5580215365238675713/5910640578764419058?pid=5910640578764419058&oid=111844992738896496541
https://plus.google.com/photos/111844992738896496541/albums/5580215365238675713/5911088709076616770?pid=5911088709076616770&oid=111844992738896496541
https://plus.google.com/photos/111844992738896496541/albums/5580215365238675713/5910638421938261330?pid=5910638421938261330&oid=111844992738896496541
Thank you so much guys, you're helping me to take a decision.
Just for the facts: I'm a gamer but not a phone gamer, I don't use my phones to play very much, just games like Tetris, Angry Birds and maybe Asphalt, I rather to play in my console or PC.
Also, photography is not a big deal for me, but yeah, I want good quality in the pictures and videos I take.
If somebody else wants to contribute with more opinions and information please go ahead.
El Brillantinas said:
Thank you so much guys, you're helping me to take a decision.
Just for the facts: I'm a gamer but not a phone gamer, I don't use my phones to play very much, just games like Tetris, Angry Birds and maybe Asphalt, I rather to play in my console or PC.
Also, photography is not a big deal for me, but yeah, I want good quality in the pictures and videos I take.
If somebody else wants to contribute with more opinions and information please go ahead.
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Certainly not.
I used to have a Moto Defy, with a huge developer/modding community around the globe.
I Miss it badly now, as moto does give a f* for us. The intel thing make the modding very hard, and and I don't think the benefit is worth it.
Seriously thinking in make the switch to the Moto X, which probably will have a bigger base for modding.
I would not recommend the RAZR i anymore .. I won't judge too hard on it, because it's still not rooted yet (since one year exactly) and i was and still am used to rooted android devices. With the RAZR i after a year, battery life decreased, i am in constant RAM problems as the 1gb are full with not that much apps, so for example, if i switch from whatsapp to the browser and back, it most likely killed whatsapp by then. That's annoying as hell, especially because my old Desire HD did a better job with AOSP/4.04. The worst part is that the RAZR i isn't updated and there's no development such as cyanogenmod for it. For me, this means a lot. My RAZR i is in repair right now because i got it with a broken audio jack and i'm using the much older galaxy S2 by a friend, broken display, sensors sometimes fail, but it runs so much better. Why? Because of the rom, HellyBean/4.2.2, it runs so much better despite it has less ram and should have the slower processor.
Ah, almost forgot, the VERY handy camera button (which i absolutely love and miss on the S2 i use right now) somehow seems broken too, maybe software, most of the time i have to press it twice before it launches the camera. It triggers well though, so i guess that's software too. It just doesn't run that fine as i wished it would.
I would still recommend it, but ONLY if you're fine with the possibility that this probably won't be getting Kitkat. It's a very capable phone, I use it mostly for news email and browsing and like Omar said it usually lasts two days (something not a lot of phones can brag about, sadly.) the battery life I'd say is one of this phone's best features. If you root it and run a custom rom the phone preforms beautifully too. Just be prepared to live with *some* compatibility issues with certain apps.
In my opinion, buy it. For the price I'm seeing it at these days which is about ~150 dollars, it's a crazy good deal. Just don't expect it to see any updates from Motorola any time soon.
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I think it's still a great phone, i dont want a bigger phone and if you too don't want anything bigger than this then i think that still there is no better phone as all the other are bigger with the same screen size or bigger screen size.
There might be one that i would trade it for but it's still a rumor just, huawei d2 mini, 4.3 screen, quadcore, 2gb of ram...
As far as defects in this phone i would say:
- Low earpiece volume( i will try viper4android app for this )
-It´s heavier on the top so it would be more confortable to use if that was reversed
-If you updating any app the phone will lag a bit
-Original camera is not great, the pics are a bit without color
I dont play on the phone i say nothing about that
If you buy this phone try the infinirom v6, its great, it leaves a lot of free ram and the rom it's basically the original one so everything works great but with a lot more ram free
I still think razr I is a great phone (not the best) even with 1 year past
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[Q] Is this a good phone?

Hey, in some few days i will recieve this phone, i was asking if is better to sell it or take it, i was planning to sell it ans buy a moto g, but in my country they are all sold out, i think they will come in 2 weeks.
Bye
Recommend that you do not stay there with very few mini s3 rom and all have many bug ...
Daks32 said:
Hey, in some few days i will recieve this phone, i was asking if is better to sell it or take it, i was planning to sell it ans buy a moto g, but in my country they are all sold out, i think they will come in 2 weeks.
Bye
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The phone is rubbish with stock Samsung OS and software! Slow often glitchy, long waits for simple stuff like switching between apps or even going back to the home screen.
BUT - with a custom ROM this phone is potentially AWESOME. Lag is gone, battery life much better. I make my girlfriend jealous and she has an iPhone 5S, lol.
Slightly bigger screen than iPhone, much lighter, more sturdy, expandable memory, FM tuner, and with a custom ROM loads more features and better interface.
Some ROMs are not available for this phone but a lot are: Many available from maclaw.pl, I've tried CM11 but found Carbon (latest unofficial KitKat) has a few more options and some nice optimisations to maximise battery life without sacrificing performance at all.
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james.faction said:
The phone is rubbish with stock Samsung OS and software! Slow often glitchy, long waits for simple stuff like switching between apps or even going back to the home screen.
BUT - with a custom ROM this phone is potentially AWESOME. Lag is gone, battery life much better. I make my girlfriend jealous and she has an iPhone 5S, lol.
Slightly bigger screen than iPhone, much lighter, more sturdy, expandable memory, FM tuner, and with a custom ROM loads more features and better interface.
Some ROMs are not available for this phone but a lot are: Many available from maclaw.pl, I've tried CM11 but found Carbon (latest unofficial KitKat) has a few more options and some nice optimisations to maximise battery life without sacrificing performance at all.
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Hey, thank you, i think i will stay with it, and what can you tell me about games?, is good enough?, thanks bye
With stock, framerates go slow sometimes - since going custom no probs at all. Play a lot of Real Steel World Robot Boxing, a 3D effects-heavy game, runs without a hitch. Screen quality good, graphics good.
I just got one yesterday as a replacement for my work phone. I was using an iPhone 4 on iOS 7. thdevicee mini is a about the same size, but I have the benefits of android, root, larger screen, and the Google kit Kat keyboard. compared to the outdated iPhone 4 it's a decent upgrade.
my personal line is a galaxy s4. the s3 mini doesn't compare, but given that the s4 is my primary device and the s3 mini is for work calls and email only it's pretty dang good.
its a good phone but we have only a few developers for custom roms
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also we still dont have miui rom for example, wich almost every other phone already have one stable :/
custom ROM support, or lack thereof, doesn't make a phone good or bad...
if flashing ROMs is a priority, get a nexus as AOSP based ROMs on pretty much anything else sucks. any device with a Google Play Edition version and an unlocked boot loader will be a very close second.
I think the S3 Mini is a very nice phone but there are many other phones which has better performance and battery but they are not so cheap like the S3 Mini The Moto G is okay but the Gaming Performance is bad.. sry for my bad english
It's typical mid-range, with a decent custom ROM every day tasks are quick and the phone is very responsive. It'll gobble up casual games easily and some old intensive games but unsurprisingly you're not going to playing brand new high end games!

It is Dec. 2015 already. How is your Xperia Z3+? Is it worth to buy?

Hi guys. It has been few months already since Xperia Z3+/Z4 was made available. Sony has also given Z3+ some updates to fix its bugs. After few months of use, what is your feedback about Z3+? Is it worth buying? (Unfortunately, Xperia Z5 is way out of my budget so don't suggest that I buy it even if it is so great. Haha.)
mark_q07 said:
Hi guys. It has been few months already since Xperia Z3+/Z4 was made available. Sony has also given Z3+ some updates to fix its bugs. After few months of use, what is your feedback about Z3+? Is it worth buying? (Unfortunately, Xperia Z5 is way out of my budget so don't suggest that I buy it even if it is so great. Haha.)
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Overall I'm happy with it. Mine don't get to hot. Only wish the was more devs for this device. I'd recommend it
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Overall I'm happy with it. Mine don't get to hot. Only wish the was more devs for this device. I'd recommend it
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Well, that is good to know. I also read some comments from Z3+ users on facebook. According to them, Z3+ gets warm sometimes but only while taking a 4k video and AR mask. Still, I want to know the experience of Z3+ users here in XDA. Haha.
It's like any Xperia Z. It's a solid phone, it gets warm but that is no issue in normal use. Updates are as delayed as usual. And of course, there is never reliable information on their update plans.
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It's like any Xperia Z. It's a solid phone, it gets warm but that is no issue in normal use. Updates are as delayed as usual. And of course, there is never reliable information on their update plans.
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I agree on this. I love my aqua green Z3+. It's sleek and minimalist (That's what I like), it doesn't get hot, sometimes warm on web browsing, cpu temp <60C though (might be due to Lollipop bug?). It's responsive with Nova launcher, switching between apps is a breeze and there's no noticeable lag in general. Don't believe what some might say that SD810 is a toaster chip, throttling all the time or superior auto mode is crap. I admit that superior auto do get misses at times (especially for lots of wood/greenery/reds) and manual mode helps but when it works the picture quality is great. I like the gourmet mode, it does detect food magically and the night mode for low light city photos. Recommended with price drop.
Build quality is great imho, I come from Samsung S3, S4 and S5 Mini and Sony is way above those in build quality. WAAY above actually. It´s just extremly solid and wellthought and makes many competitors look like old and more toyish...
My phone has never had the heat problem. I play Hearthstone, Simpsons Tap out and Game of War on mine all the time and it does get warmer but all phones do while gaming. I have recorded atleast 100 clips on highest setting from a few seconds to several minutes and never had any popups about closing app due to heat.
What I do find disturbing is the non existing development scene for this phone I´m a flashohlic from My S4 and HTC Desire HD days and I miss setting up new ROMs to try every other day. I honestly feel this phone is already abandoned and people have moved on to Z5. Damn shame as the phone is pretty darn nice...
Does it self crack?
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Would you recommend getting this over the HTC M9? Also, I'm quite certain this has way better design than the z5. Shame Sony went for a boxy look this time.
I'm very happy with mine hardware-wise, it is a great device. Finish quality is superior than most brands, I think. The Z3+ is seriously the most premium feel I've ever had with a phone since my 10+ years old Motorola E398. Issues are: gets warm fast depending on what you do, and I wish Sony had upgraded it to the latest Android version. But it did receive one or two updates in the last few weeks, so at least Sony did not forget about it, plus it will be getting Marshmallow.
Honestly I don't see that much difference between the Z3+/Z4 and the Z5. I would recommend it easily.
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Build quality is great imho, I come from Samsung S3, S4 and S5 Mini and Sony is way above those in build quality. WAAY above actually. It´s just extremly solid and wellthought and makes many competitors look like old and more toyish...
My phone has never had the heat problem. I play Hearthstone, Simpsons Tap out and Game of War on mine all the time and it does get warmer but all phones do while gaming. I have recorded atleast 100 clips on highest setting from a few seconds to several minutes and never had any popups about closing app due to heat.
What I do find disturbing is the non existing development scene for this phone I´m a flashohlic from My S4 and HTC Desire HD days and I miss setting up new ROMs to try every other day. I honestly feel this phone is already abandoned and people have moved on to Z5. Damn shame as the phone is pretty darn nice...
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I'm a little too sad about this too...
Couldn't afford a z5, and the phone is too damn nice to be abandoned...
But mine get pretty hot with every damn task I do... there's something I can do about this, except waiting for a update?
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I'm a little too sad about this too...
Couldn't afford a z5, and the phone is too damn nice to be abandoned...
But mine get pretty hot with every damn task I do... there's something I can do about this, except waiting for a update?
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From the comments that I read in the past, after updating their Z3+ to the latest firmware update, they reformat their phone. According to them, it seems to lessen the heating issue on their Z3+. I don't have Z3+ (sine I'm still choosing between Z3+ and Z5) but I hope my comment can help you
Yeah. How I wish it has many and active developers just like the Xperia Z2 and Z3 have. I hope many developers will realize that this phone is worth the shot
Stilleh said:
Build quality is great imho, I come from Samsung S3, S4 and S5 Mini and Sony is way above those in build quality. WAAY above actually. It´s just extremly solid and wellthought and makes many competitors look like old and more toyish...
My phone has never had the heat problem. I play Hearthstone, Simpsons Tap out and Game of War on mine all the time and it does get warmer but all phones do while gaming. I have recorded atleast 100 clips on highest setting from a few seconds to several minutes and never had any popups about closing app due to heat.
What I do find disturbing is the non existing development scene for this phone I´m a flashohlic from My S4 and HTC Desire HD days and I miss setting up new ROMs to try every other day. I honestly feel this phone is already abandoned and people have moved on to Z5. Damn shame as the phone is pretty darn nice...
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Yeah. How I wish it has many and active developers just like the Xperia Z2 and Z3 have. I hope many developers will realize that this phone is worth the shot
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From the comments that I read in the past, after updating their Z3+ to the latest firmware update, they reformat their phone. According to them, it seems to lessen the heating issue on their Z3+. I don't have Z3+ (sine I'm still choosing between Z3+ and Z5) but I hope my comment can help you
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Thank you, have done that, it indeed got better!
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Thank you, have done that, it indeed got better!
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Wow! I am happy reformatting your Z3+ helps lessen the heating issue. Enjoy your Z3+ experience!
By the way, what is your satisfaction rating (1 to 10) after reformatting your phone?
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Wow! I am happy reformatting your Z3+ helps lessen the heating issue. Enjoy your Z3+ experience!
By the way, what is your satisfaction rating (1 to 10) after reformatting your phone?
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Sorry for the delay to answer...
After the reset I did a restore on PC and it seemed to worse things, will do the reset again...
I'm very satisfied with the phone, if it stops butning my hand will be around 9!
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Sorry for the delay to answer...
After the reset I did a restore on PC and it seemed to worse things, will do the reset again...
I'm very satisfied with the phone, if it stops butning my hand will be around 9!
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You shouldn't restore. Start fresh. All you did is restore the problem
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You shouldn't restore. Start fresh. All you did is restore the problem
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I did reset now, started fresh and I'm getting this temperatures just by using Relay for reddit... It seems cooler overall, but don't know if the problem is gone, if I should send it to warranty...
Here in Brazil the Z5 goes for about US$1000, while the Z3+ goes for about US$500 and the Z3/Z3C for about US$400. My Z1 has finally bitten the dust, and I'm looking at these for an upgrade. I honestly cannot justify the cost of the Z5 in any way (heck, you can get an old-but-working CAR for less money!), so that one is out. What I wonder is whether the Z3+ is worth ~20% more than the Z3: the Z3+ has unquestionably better hardware and unquestionably worse development, though FXP will release their CM13 for all supported Krait/A53 phones after Sony gets a Marshmallow build out, so we will have a way out after Sony support abandons the phone. The point is, how usable is the software right now without unlocking the bootloader? And looking at the forums I couldn't get an idea of whether the development is slowing down, heating up or just keeping the same rate, so I ask, how likely is it that development will heat up this year?
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Here in Brazil the Z5 goes for about US$1000, while the Z3+ goes for about US$500 and the Z3/Z3C for about US$400. My Z1 has finally bitten the dust, and I'm looking at these for an upgrade. I honestly cannot justify the cost of the Z5 in any way (heck, you can get an old-but-working CAR for less money!), so that one is out. What I wonder is whether the Z3+ is worth ~20% more than the Z3: the Z3+ has unquestionably better hardware and unquestionably worse development, though FXP will release their CM13 for all supported Krait/A53 phones after Sony gets a Marshmallow build out, so we will have a way out after Sony support abandons the phone. The point is, how usable is the software right now without unlocking the bootloader? And looking at the forums I couldn't get an idea of whether the development is slowing down, heating up or just keeping the same rate, so I ask, how likely is it that development will heat up this year?
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I think the Sony software out-of-the-box is perfectly fine to use. I think Sony didn't load a ton of crapware/unwanted software onto Android that it becomes a nuisance although I disabled a few Sony apps that I didn't like or found useless. I'm comparing my experience with software loaded out-of-the-box from a Nexus 4 (my previous phone) to a Sony Xperia Z3+ and it's been a pleasant experience.
I'm not sure what you're looking for in rooting or unlocking the bootloader of a Z3+ but I feel it's unnecessary. I rooted my previous phones to achieve better battery life. With the Z3+, Sony's Stamina mode has been more than sufficient in providing me with that feature, so no need for rooting or unlocking the bootloader.
I don't think the development is going to pick up anytime soon. I've kept up with news sites and forums (XDA and Sony Support Forums) on the Sony Xperia Z3+ and it has a bad reputation because of the Snapdragon 810 causing overheating issues.
No. Don't touch it. This phone is a piece of crap. My last two phones, both $30 cheapos from metro out perform this high tech blunder. this is the worst buying decision I have ever made.
Battery life? I'm lucky if it lasts 3 hours.

Moto X 2014 still worth buying???

Hi.
I've been looking at quite a number of new phones recently deciding that its the time to upgrade. I bought a Oneplus Two but sold it on after it was just too big and heavy for me. Its was overkill for what I needed really. I currently have a Moto X 2013 which I love but development on XDA has pretty much stalled. I have been looking at the Moto X 2014 as it can be picked up new for a good price over here in the UK.
So would you say its still worth buying even now?
Cheers.
I think this phone is pretty unique, even if some people would consider it an "old" device, so I'd still recommend buying it if one is looking for an original approach to android.
A Snapdragon 801, a nice FHD AMOLED, a mean front speaker, an ergonomic and original design with sturdy build quality are definitely its main objectively strong points.
It's got some flaws, such as a slightly subpar camera and a small battery (which will still last the canonical 16 hours, mind you).
What sets this phone apart from others, however, is the IR and motion sensors paired with always-on speech recognition, which will give you surprisingly reliable functionality on a stock ROM, but those are unfortunately stuck at 6.0... If I had to choose one flaw in this phone, it'd be Lenovo's fault.
It's not like gestures and voice recognition don't work in custom ROMs, they do, but it's not the same level of optimization (I've explained it more than once in lengthy and boring posts like this one )
Bottom line: this phone is awesome, I'm running 7.1.1 ATM and it's a neat user experience, but I'm not going to delete that 7 GB TWRP backup of my stock ROM+Xposed setup anytime soon!
(yes, I have the 32 GB, I assume you won't even look at the 16 GB model 'cause it's really not worth it)
I think so. I just bought a new one (XT1096) with 64Gb off ebay. The shipping was slow, but worth the wait. It came from Hong Kong. My old one was 32 Gb. The battery wasn't holding well and BT was kind of flaky. I also bought a new Moto G4 for my wife. It's a great phone, but it's too big for me. I loved my old Ghost too. I was the perfect size.
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Bottom line: this phone is awesome, I'm running 7.1.1 ATM and it's a neat user experience, but I'm not going to delete that 7 GB TWRP backup of my stock ROM+Xposed setup anytime soon!
(yes, I have the 32 GB, I assume you won't even look at the 16 GB model 'cause it's really not worth it)
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I also have my stock ROM backup.
What is 7.1.1 ATM?
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I also have my stock ROM backup.
What is 7.1.1 ATM?
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ATM stands for At The Moment
By the way it's Resurrection Remix, there's no better 7.1 ROM out there
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ATM stands for At The Moment
By the way it's Resurrection Remix, there's no better 7.1 ROM out there
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How is it? Are there any issues? How is its performance/battery life compared to the stock rom??
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How is it? Are there any issues? How is its performance/battery life compared to the stock rom??
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I'd say it's the only ROM that doesn't make you regret leaving stock firmware.
Battery life and performance are both way better, but it's still got a couple bugs (charging while the phone is off doesn't show any percentage and 1080p recording is unstable)
I'm usually very picky about bugs and features, but this ROM really nails 95% of what it should.
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I'd say it's the only ROM that doesn't make you regret leaving stock firmware.
Battery life and performance are both way better, but it's still got a couple bugs (charging while the phone is off doesn't show any percentage and 1080p recording is unstable)
I'm usually very picky about bugs and features, but this ROM really nails 95% of what it should.
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Are you sure its better than Lineage OS? How much Screen On Time you usually get? How nuch you get on Antutu Benchmark?
I usually get around 4-5 hours of SOT on a 16 hour day. I use substratum with a black theme and sprinkle charges when I need to, but it's got solid standby. I never run benchmarks, but it's definitely smoother than marshmallow
I'm sure it's better than Lineage because I've tried pretty much every ROM and RR is essentially the most stable version of CM with extra features and improved battery
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I usually get around 4-5 hours of SOT on a 16 hour day. I use substratum with a black theme and sprinkle charges when I need to, but it's got solid standby. I never run benchmarks, but it's definitely smoother than marshmallow
I'm sure it's better than Lineage because I've tried pretty much every ROM and RR is essentially the most stable version of CM with extra features and improved battery
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I heard some people complained about camera issues, do you have any?
Yes, I haven't updated to the latest build yet but I can confirm that recording 1080p videos will most likely reboot your device. 720p works fine and is not that much of a loss on a smartphone sensor
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Yes, I haven't updated to the latest build yet but I can confirm that recording 1080p videos will most likely reboot your device. 720p works fine and is not that much of a loss on a smartphone sensor
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What about 4K? Why you are not recording on 4K?
i woudn't buy it at the moment... i would consider a xiaomi. this one is not supported by qualcomm anymore so... it's better to buy something newer (2015 or more)

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