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[Q] Is this a good phone?

Hey, in some few days i will recieve this phone, i was asking if is better to sell it or take it, i was planning to sell it ans buy a moto g, but in my country they are all sold out, i think they will come in 2 weeks.
Bye

Recommend that you do not stay there with very few mini s3 rom and all have many bug ...

Daks32 said:
Hey, in some few days i will recieve this phone, i was asking if is better to sell it or take it, i was planning to sell it ans buy a moto g, but in my country they are all sold out, i think they will come in 2 weeks.
Bye
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The phone is rubbish with stock Samsung OS and software! Slow often glitchy, long waits for simple stuff like switching between apps or even going back to the home screen.
BUT - with a custom ROM this phone is potentially AWESOME. Lag is gone, battery life much better. I make my girlfriend jealous and she has an iPhone 5S, lol.
Slightly bigger screen than iPhone, much lighter, more sturdy, expandable memory, FM tuner, and with a custom ROM loads more features and better interface.
Some ROMs are not available for this phone but a lot are: Many available from maclaw.pl, I've tried CM11 but found Carbon (latest unofficial KitKat) has a few more options and some nice optimisations to maximise battery life without sacrificing performance at all.

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james.faction said:
The phone is rubbish with stock Samsung OS and software! Slow often glitchy, long waits for simple stuff like switching between apps or even going back to the home screen.
BUT - with a custom ROM this phone is potentially AWESOME. Lag is gone, battery life much better. I make my girlfriend jealous and she has an iPhone 5S, lol.
Slightly bigger screen than iPhone, much lighter, more sturdy, expandable memory, FM tuner, and with a custom ROM loads more features and better interface.
Some ROMs are not available for this phone but a lot are: Many available from maclaw.pl, I've tried CM11 but found Carbon (latest unofficial KitKat) has a few more options and some nice optimisations to maximise battery life without sacrificing performance at all.
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Hey, thank you, i think i will stay with it, and what can you tell me about games?, is good enough?, thanks bye

With stock, framerates go slow sometimes - since going custom no probs at all. Play a lot of Real Steel World Robot Boxing, a 3D effects-heavy game, runs without a hitch. Screen quality good, graphics good.

I just got one yesterday as a replacement for my work phone. I was using an iPhone 4 on iOS 7. thdevicee mini is a about the same size, but I have the benefits of android, root, larger screen, and the Google kit Kat keyboard. compared to the outdated iPhone 4 it's a decent upgrade.
my personal line is a galaxy s4. the s3 mini doesn't compare, but given that the s4 is my primary device and the s3 mini is for work calls and email only it's pretty dang good.

its a good phone but we have only a few developers for custom roms
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also we still dont have miui rom for example, wich almost every other phone already have one stable :/

custom ROM support, or lack thereof, doesn't make a phone good or bad...
if flashing ROMs is a priority, get a nexus as AOSP based ROMs on pretty much anything else sucks. any device with a Google Play Edition version and an unlocked boot loader will be a very close second.

I think the S3 Mini is a very nice phone but there are many other phones which has better performance and battery but they are not so cheap like the S3 Mini The Moto G is okay but the Gaming Performance is bad.. sry for my bad english

It's typical mid-range, with a decent custom ROM every day tasks are quick and the phone is very responsive. It'll gobble up casual games easily and some old intensive games but unsurprisingly you're not going to playing brand new high end games!

[Q] 2 Years later... How happy are you with your 4X?

The title says it all!​
I wanted to hear about you guys about how satisfied are you with your Optimus 4x HD ! Say if it matched your initial expectations, long term satisfaction, if you still feel its fresh and not obsolete, how happy are you with LG's support to the phone and if you regret or not having bought it. Oh , and if you feel your battery performance is as good as in the first days !
Bring the debate on !

Hey . I really feel its a better device than it was at the beggining. Everything is more smooth and faster. I prefer official cm sources over p880-dev but the strength goes from those second and there is future. Even if official sources gives fluidity etc i hope p880-dev sources will be fixed from all bugs if it is possible.

I agree. There was a period when Android 4.3 came out until early Android 4.4 (until Demetris got in charge of CM) that I was very desperate and I was thinking of replacing my p880 with something else.
The thing is, now it becomes better and better by the day. Especially with Official CM. It has got to a point that CM11 is smoother and generally better than stock.
Now that we're getting M builds (reference: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55447963 ) I expect that we can finally have something even more stable and reliable than ever!
I think I could keep using this phone until we stop getting official CM support (or until it breaks )

amkirk94 said:
I agree. There was a period when Android 4.3 came out until early Android 4.4 (until Demetris got in charge of CM) that I was very desperate and I was thinking of replacing my p880 with something else.
The thing is, now it becomes better and better by the day. Especially with Official CM. It has got to a point that CM11 is smoother and generally better than stock.
Now that we're getting M builds (reference: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55447963 ) I expect that we can finally have something even more stable and reliable than ever!
I think I could keep using this phone until we stop getting official CM support (or until it breaks )
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Really? I've been feeling exactly the opposite, but I'm using slim bean 4.2.2 because of the battery drain ive experiencied with other roms... What are you using now ? (rom , kernel , special apps )

nmbbf said:
Really? I've been feeling exactly the opposite, but I'm using slim bean 4.2.2 because of the battery drain ive experiencied with other roms... What are you using now ? (rom , kernel , special apps )
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Oh yeah, battery drain is definitely higher on everything 4.2+
I'm using what my signature says, but I don't mind charging my phone a lot. It usually makes throughout a whole day (barely). Sometimes it doesn't.
I'm not using any special apps for the time being. I used to use Tegra Overclock, but since I stopped using iodak/cyodak, I don't really need it.
If battery is something that you're really concerned about, stay on 4.2. Otherwise, if you're willing to sacrifice some of that in order to get performance, features and the latest version of android, Official CM is worth checking out!

For me it is another time the community is great.
2 years ago, the stock LG was crap, locked bootloader etc...
Now, CM11 is starting to work correctly (i mean, all the bugs are fixed, and we could enjoy a really different experience), OmniRom, and a lot of others.
I'm simply angry LG did not support / open source everything they could after 6 / 8 months. The smartphone is not updated after this time, and some spent hours of hacks to make it supported.
Kudos Demetris, Lauffenstepenwolf, Adam77 and others.

Graveen said:
For me it is another time the community is great.
2 years ago, the stock LG was crap, locked bootloader etc...
Now, CM11 is starting to work correctly (i mean, all the bugs are fixed, and we could enjoy a really different experience), OmniRom, and a lot of others.
I'm simply angry LG did not support / open source everything they could after 6 / 8 months. The smartphone is not updated after this time, and some spent hours of hacks to make it supported.
Kudos Demetris, Lauffenstepenwolf, Adam77 and others.
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Totally agree with you. The official support of our phone was crap, without the development of our great developers I think I would have ditched this phone long ago. After 1.5 yrs of using the phone, I think custom rom is the major force that keep 4x users, while official JB just drive them away.

I am satisfied, but the device is nearing end of its life cycle for me. I knew if i chose this device, I'd choose good hardware for lackluster official software support, so I hoped for an active devs to bring us latest android builds bugfree, and that's what they did, to everyones delight ;p

Flashed device 1/2 hour after I purchased it. Original LG ROM was awfull. Worked fine on cm10, works even better on the new cm11 snapshot. Thanks @Demetris I'll gonna keep p880 as long as it will work
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im no so happy because battery life terrible, gps is terrible, camra like 5 mpx

The battery is really bad, the phone is not as smooth as is should be, APN not very good...
I use it since 2 years, and at the end of the year i will change it !
Probably for a Nexus 5, or Xperia Z1, Moto X (2013) or OnePlus One
But thanks to this amazing community :victory:

Yeah same here, terrible battery, constant lags, touchscreen accuracy issues and a lot of little things that ultimately add up to make for an awful experience all around.
Can't wait for the OnePlus One to get officially released without the need of an invitiation so I can leave this pile of trash and regret behind.
Now to be fair to the devs, ROMs have improved a great deal recently but no piece of software in this world can save this phone.
Only good thing is that you can use it as a hand-warmer in the winter since it always gets so hot.

Apart from battery life, and ultra weak camera, i like the phone...design is good, screen is good, performs well for me.
But battery and camera are MAJOR flaws. i will change this phone as soon as i can.

I have had my Optimus 4X for almost 2 years (will be 2 years at end Oct)
Initial Expectations
Yes it did meet them when I bought the phone. It was fast had an awesome screen removable battery and removable storage.
It has also been brilliant at streaming media to/from compatible devices and plays most types of media files
2 years later does it meet expectations? The phone does what I need it to do but sometimes is a bit frustrating when it wants to pause/freeze so no it is not quite meeting my expectations atm
Long Term Satisfaction
After LG dropped software support and concentrated on their G2 and G3 I'll admit I did feel my device was feeling a little obsolete!! But I have a Galaxy S and S2 running KitKat and will be installing custom ROMs on my LG soon to bring it back up to date and give it a new lease of life
It's quite rugged taking a few drops with little or just bezel chips
Camera - Takes good quality pictures and video
Battery life isn't anywhere near as good - it's been rinsing the battery especially during gaming.
Bad bits
LG support, yes I have had to send it back at LG's expense but the lack of software support doesn't fill me with confidence!!
Camera takes a whilst to get ready to shoot
Phone can warm up a fair bit espec during some games
There have been times I have almost regretted buying it but having a think about it - No I don't regret it

its ****,
- some plastic lost here and there, power button 50% unresponsive, and 60C when watching videos
but i love it. yeah, this thing has a soul

My 4X looks like new after 1,5 years use. Screen have no any scratch but battery life is shorter about 40%. I always carry it in my pocket without any case. I think that was the best choice for this amount of money.
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Yo estoy muy muy contento con el 4x. Uso la rom de Zaiben que es perfecta para mi. Saludos

For me it is still a nice device.
Even battery works like others of my friends.
(but I use profiles either with pure 2G for telephony and battery saving or 3G-only for surfing)
We have newest ROM state and still 4-5 cores are state-of-the-art and only LTE is missing.
Camera ist working OK, but not high-end
and GPS sometimes great and sometimes bit "curious".
Overall , I am still happy and will wait for bigger differences to newest phones in the market until I will switch.
So, lets hope for further support on our custom-side ... :fingers-crossed:

After 2 years still looks like new device, very satisfied, I am playing with ROMs (MoKee, Beanstalk, Vanir, Nameless, ATM on ZAIBEN RC16), for the time 2 years ago on my opinion best buy device!
Looking forward on new Beanstalk ! :victory::fingers-crossed:

It's okay, just that it gets lagging and heats up very fast.
Using Vanir nightlies and battery drains fast. Looks like time for a replacement battery =(

Should I upgrade to Mi 5?

Hey guys,
I am currently using a oneplus 2 but i am pretty impressed by the looks and the egronomics of mi5 not to mention how thin and light weight this device is. Keeping everything simple n straight, I just wanted to ask that is it wise to upgrade to mi 5?
My main priorities in preferred order are battery life, custom rom development, camera and then everything else.
My usage pattern includes a lot of continuous gaming preferably online multiplayers like mini militia and MC4.
On the contrary, I still prefer compact devices with a 5 inch display over a 5.5 inch.
My oneplus 2 is still rocking and I can easily get 2.5-3hrs of SOT with gaming and 4-4.5hrs without it.
Moreover, I wanted to know about the known cons or problems with mi 5 if any as if by any chance buy it, I'll be using it for at least 2yrs. I am just hesitant to buy it because only the 32gb version is available in my region and the phone I am currently using already has 4gb ram and 64gb storage!
I'll be grateful for any helps and suggestions!
Thanks!

Since you are already with one plus I would recommend you upgrade to the OnePlus 3/3T
Mi 5 is a great phone for sure but OP3 is much better for sure also if you are ok with the extra money

I see there is a lot less community development going on as no one seems to be really interested in replying with an reasonable suggestions or help as its been long since I asked for them!
Anyways, I'll still wait for someone to come up until I don't buy some new device!

it is one of the best phones in its class.

well, personally, i dont really like how op3/t looks, and 5.5 is too big for my taste. if you looking for decent camera, performance, and looks, i definetely consider mi5 altho OP3/T is so much better in terms of performance and rom dev as you can see, right now i'm rocking purenexus custom rom on my mi5 and the performance is top notch tho camera still prefer miui based rom. Anyway, these are some points from my usage :
1. Battery life is decent in original MIUI rom, but best at Purenexus rom, beware not all custom rom have great battery life
2. the vibration motor in Mi5 isnt as good as others, even compared to mi4c, i know, its nitpicking, but really for long term use this little thing is quite significant
3. 3GB of RAM arent enough for me at least. if u interested, please consider the 4gb ones
4. fingerprint is not that fast, and the area is quite small
If you really wanna use this phone for at least 2 years, i do think OP3T is your best choice for support. but idk, the kernel source of Mi5 already out, so maybe we'll see better support.

Mi5 is really great device, it is very cheap, and the specs are very impressive. the battery life is very good, here is a picture of my results but note that I don't play games. Custom ROM development is good, not the best nor the worst. I think you should consider waiting a bit more and buy mi6. it will be a little but more expensive but the specs will be much better.

I need your opinion about this phone

Hello guys,
I've considered buying MiA2 this month for my daily driver. Previously I used Pocophone f1 and sold it immediately after 1 month usage because I'm so tired of that stupid touch issues. And I also already used Redmi Note 5 (whyred) before, I bought it in first week release. And I'm not really satisfied with the performance (it's underclocked version of 660) that's why I upgraded to poco.
Currently I'm using my old s7 edge, and it's really not optimized for pubg mobile.
The MiA2 battery life won't bother me, even tho it has 3000mah. I always use greenify and it also has qc3.0 so that won't be problem.
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
The only thing I scared is the touch issues, I want to know about the touch responsiveness and touch latency on this phone. Is it good? Normal? Or there is problem and it's kind of laggy and not responsive to swipe, scroll or typing fast?
It's really annoying issue on poco, you can't type fast, you can't swipe or scroll freely without lags, and you can't play games because of the unresponsive crazy touch. I hope there is no such thing on MiA2
fyi, I also root my phone. So root or twrp to fix some problems is okay for me as long there is a fix for the problem.
I want to know your opinion, thanks

In my opinion don'y buy this phone for PUBG, it doesn't even run stable 60fps and idk if it's the same problem you mentioned with the Poco, but I'm having touch and responsiveness issues myself. Get something with a SD8xx.

KreeeKz said:
In my opinion don'y buy this phone for PUBG, it doesn't even run stable 60fps and idk if it's the same problem you mentioned with the Poco, but I'm having touch and responsiveness issues myself. Get something with a SD8xx.
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That's why I made this thread, I saw videos on youtube showing touch problem also exist on this phone.
By the way, thanks for your reply :good:

ferdieses said:
Hello guys,
Currently I'm using my old s7 edge, and it's really not optimized for pubg mobile.
The MiA2 battery life won't bother me, even tho it has 3000mah. I always use greenify and it also has qc3.0 so that won't be problem.
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
The only thing I scared is the touch issues, I want to know about the touch responsiveness and touch latency on this phone. Is it good? Normal? Or there is problem and it's kind of laggy and not responsive to swipe, scroll or typing fast?
It's really annoying issue on poco, you can't type fast, you can't swipe or scroll freely without lags, and you can't play games because of the unresponsive crazy touch. I hope there is no such thing on MiA2
I want to know your opinion, thanks
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I use gfx tool and get a stable 60 fps on balanced graphics. The performance of this phone is pretty solid and can play any games at almost max settings. There's no problem in touch responsiveness and the stock OS feels great. I'd have gotten the poco f1 if I simply needed pure gaming performance. The difference between normal day to day usage experience of Mi A2 and poco f1 is negligible. Typing, scrolling and basic touch functions are great. I'd recommend this phone to you if you can overlook a few bugs like the proximity sensor.
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KreeeKz said:
In my opinion don'y buy this phone for PUBG, it doesn't even run stable 60fps and idk if it's the same problem you mentioned with the Poco, but I'm having touch and responsiveness issues myself. Get something with a SD8xx.
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I never had any touch and responsiveness issues whatsoever. Might be a software bug. Try a factory reset and see if it fixed it.

[email protected] said:
I use gfx tool and get a stable 60 fps on balanced graphics. The performance of this phone is pretty solid and can play any games at almost max settings. There's no problem in touch responsiveness and the stock OS feels great. I'd have gotten the poco f1 if I simply needed pure gaming performance. The difference between normal day to day usage experience of Mi A2 and poco f1 is negligible. Typing, scrolling and basic touch functions are great. I'd recommend this phone to you if you can overlook a few bugs like the proximity sensor.
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Oh nice to know that, so you're using stock pie?
And about that proximity bug, is there any fix yet?

ferdieses said:
Oh nice to know that, so you're using stock pie?
And about that proximity bug, is there any fix yet?
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I am using stock pie and the proximity bug is kind of a hit or miss situation. It works most of the time, but when it doesn't it's really annoying. The placement of the sensor is a little odd and I don't think it is simply a software issue. Although in pie, it's much more better than Oreo.

[email protected] said:
I never had any touch and responsiveness issues whatsoever. Might be a software bug. Try a factory reset and see if it fixed it.
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From what I see on forum, most people fixed it by doing a factory reset just like you said. Well, I hope it's true

[email protected] said:
I am using stock pie and the proximity bug is kind of a hit or miss situation. It works most of the time, but when it doesn't it's really annoying. The placement of the sensor is a little odd and I don't think it is simply a software issue. Although in pie, it's much more better than Oreo.
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Ahh I see, then it's not the software problem anymore. It's just the placement

ferdieses said:
Hello guys,
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
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I personally never had any major issues with this phone, i'm really enjoying a great cheap phone. The closest competitor in Brazil, hardware wise, is roughly double the price, which is the Moto Z3 Play running the SD636. I Had the CPU Maxed out bug but Xiaomi solved it on the 2nd October Update. Since then the device is running great, but heavy gaming isn't good. Regular games like Clash of Clans, Temple Run 2, Clash Royale, etc will run absolutely fine, but heavier titles like PUBG will struggle. It's definitely playable, but not the smoothest experience. For that you should look into the OnePlus 6/6T or anything else running an SD835 or SD845.
Even though it's a 3000mAh battery, It performs admirably, and people are saying it get's even better on Pie, which I didn't receive yet.

did you try the lineage build on the poco? same touch issues?

laviniu_c said:
did you try the lineage build on the poco? same touch issues?
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Same, whatever custom rom based on oreo and pie including Lineage. Nothing's changed, and it's only get worse on MIUI beta where they said they fix it in that firmware update. Some said on Lineage 16 it's better but not fixed, the problem still there.
And I sold it immediately, xiaomi and poco team seems like they don't even care about that problem.
Well I just hope that this MiA2/6x got the fix for the issue. I hate notches, this is one of the few 660 without notch.
Anyone using Mi6x? Is it good as the A2 besides the Android One and MIUI?

ferdieses said:
Hello guys,
I've considered buying MiA2 this month for my daily driver. Previously I used Pocophone f1 and sold it immediately after 1 month usage because I'm so tired of that stupid touch issues. And I also already used Redmi Note 5 (whyred) before, I bought it in first week release. And I'm not really satisfied with the performance (it's underclocked version of 660) that's why I upgraded to poco.
Currently I'm using my old s7 edge, and it's really not optimized for pubg mobile.
The MiA2 battery life won't bother me, even tho it has 3000mah. I always use greenify and it also has qc3.0 so that won't be problem.
I play pubg in my free time, so tell me about the gameplay performance (if you use gfxtool or such thing for 60fps) because I've seen everywhere that SD660 and adreno 512 is capable and optimized for this game.
The only thing I scared is the touch issues, I want to know about the touch responsiveness and touch latency on this phone. Is it good? Normal? Or there is problem and it's kind of laggy and not responsive to swipe, scroll or typing fast?
It's really annoying issue on poco, you can't type fast, you can't swipe or scroll freely without lags, and you can't play games because of the unresponsive crazy touch. I hope there is no such thing on MiA2
fyi, I also root my phone. So root or twrp to fix some problems is okay for me as long there is a fix for the problem.
I want to know your opinion, thanks
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I never had any issues with PUBG. It automatically detected and set to medium texture and I even played in HD and it worked flawlessly. I never had a single lag or freeze. The performance is solid. Go for it.

My opinion is that the phone is overall great. Not the best value for the money and I'm certainly not happy with the state of custom development or lack thereof. But a SD660 should be good for gaming (which I don't care about), the phone is snappy in day to day usage and the battery is decent. Cameras are also pretty good.
The thing is that it's just not what I wanted or thought it was going to be like and if I could choose again, I'd probably choose the Note 5 Plus (SD636) or the A2 Lite at the time that I've bought it, and definitely the F1 had I waited 2-3 months more.
Never the less, I'll keep on using it because there is simply nothing wrong with the phone, it's just not the best value.

@ferdieses
I've had the Mi A2 since launch (the 6GB/128GB variant) and, because I never had high expectations (e.g., flagship performance/features), I'm generally happy with it.
The first few months were hit and miss with stability issues (CPU frequency/eMMC slowness/battery life) but the Mi A2 is at a point where it works well enough to recommend. Everything about it is far above average but not quite excellent (e.g., 7.5/10).
The only caveat is cellular connectivity. In Canada, it works okay. In the US, it's hit or miss but in Asia, its intended territory, it excels.

mrumais said:
I never had any issues with PUBG. It automatically detected and set to medium texture and I even played in HD and it worked flawlessly. I never had a single lag or freeze. The performance is solid. Go for it.
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That's what I thought, SD660 is good for pubg. Even not all SD835 devices optimized for that game.
ILA said:
My opinion is that the phone is overall great. Not the best value for the money and I'm certainly not happy with the state of custom development or lack thereof. But a SD660 should be good for gaming (which I don't care about), the phone is snappy in day to day usage and the battery is decent. Cameras are also pretty good.
The thing is that it's just not what I wanted or thought it was going to be like and if I could choose again, I'd probably choose the Note 5 Plus (SD636) or the A2 Lite at the time that I've bought it, and definitely the F1 had I waited 2-3 months more.
Never the less, I'll keep on using it because there is simply nothing wrong with the phone, it's just not the best value.
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Ahh I see, you're right. It's not the best value, but it's not bad either.
A_H_E said:
@ferdieses
I've had the Mi A2 since launch (the 6GB/128GB variant) and, because I never had high expectations (e.g., flagship performance/features), I'm generally happy with it.
The first few months were hit and miss with stability issues (CPU frequency/eMMC slowness/battery life) but the Mi A2 is at a point where it works well enough to recommend. Everything about it is far above average but not quite excellent (e.g., 7.5/10).
The only caveat is cellular connectivity. In Canada, it works okay. In the US, it's hit or miss but in Asia, its intended territory, it excels.
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I live in Asia so cellular connectivity won't be problem. It's a good phone but not the best. From what I see most Xiaomi devices suffers from issues on the first few months, it's usual thing for Xiaomi and that's kinda sucks.

Nexus S -> galaxy S2-> Nexus 4 -> LG G2->oneplus one, and now Mi A2 128GB 6GB ram.
What can i say...
Nexus S 350 euros (second hand)
Galaxy s2 360 euros (new)
Nexus 4 almost 500 euros (second hand)
Lg g2 190 euros (second hand)
Oneplus one 64GB (second hand) 230 euros
Mi A2 128GB 6GB ram 230 euros (new)
So the OPO was with me from beginning of 2015 up to a week ago. Went from COS, to CM, to Lineage OS, had to change firmware files for modem and such, data would stop working, random reboots when using waze, etc. Loved the opo, and if it wasnt these issues, mainly the lack of battery life and the rabdom reboots, i would have stayed with it one more year.
Back to now, Mi A2, is a Nexus, or a pixel for the "poors", we will have the updates thats sure, and sure it wont take 6 months like skinned android. So thats great. And one of the things im most looking for.
SD660, is great, but the gpu... It's nothing special. Expect medium settings.
Ram? More than enough. Now where it may lose most of it speed is in the emmc department, emmc 5.1 is fast! But nothing like UFS wich is basically equivalent to a good sata ssd.
I dont regret my purchase, its way faster than the opo althought it also had emmc 5.1, the screen looks great, camera had me impressed, battery life ? (65GB of apps and games?). Better than this, there is the F1 but... Plastic? Iphony android? Almost 100 euros more for half the storage (which is ufs on the F1), infrared for faceunlock (could not care less for that),a "better'" camera and SoC.
If gaming is your main point, go F1! Or since you had a bad experience, go 6T?
If gaming is secondary like for me it is... Got a 1070 Ti at home, no need to game on the phone ? for me, my phone is listen to music, mail, messages, take random pics and browse the web.
And you prefer updates, build quality, and saving some money to buy cases, a powerbank, a QC 3.0 charger,... Go Mi A2 ?
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One more thing i need to had... I like modding my phone and such, but i got into a time of my life that ain't nobody got time for that ?
So i apreciate updates and right off the bat clean android.

Worth using?

I've been given a white and gold 3T that was no longer needed. The battery is a bit shot and the screen has burn in on the status bar. I was thinking, if I send it off for a new battery by OnePlus, is it worth using?
My current phone is a Pixel 2XL, but I am missing the headphone jack and the cell reception isn't the best...
Is the 3T decent on the stock rom? Or is it better on a custom rom/kernel?
I only really use YouTube, Gmail, Netflix and messenger... Just want it to be smooth enough.
Thanks

The stock ROM updated to the latest security patch seems okay. YouTube is a bit laggy compared to my Pixel 2Xl.
I do prefer the size of the 3T though, it's really compact.
Would a custom kernel speed up the stock ROM? On apps like YouTube?
Also, I have managed to get the WiFi calling option to appear in settings, but from memory, I don't think it actually works? I am on the 3 UK network.

I sent mine a couple of months ago for a new battery and it's 100% worth it.
Custom kernels do speed up the stock ROM but your battery life might suffer a bit., so if you want the best experience I'd suggest a custom ROM based on Pie (e.g. Havoc/Luis' Resurrection Remix). Q ROMs are good enough but most of the better ones (as far as battery life is concerned) don't support device encryption yet.
I cannot comment on WiFi calling as I don't use it at all.

TheZorg said:
I sent mine a couple of months ago for a new battery and it's 100% worth it.
Custom kernels do speed up the stock ROM but your battery life might suffer a bit., so if you want the best experience I'd suggest a custom ROM based on Pie (e.g. Havoc/Luis' Resurrection Remix). Q ROMs are good enough but most of the better ones (as far as battery life is concerned) don't support device encryption yet.
I cannot comment on WiFi calling as I don't use it at all.
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Good to know, thanks.
Would that be a Pie custom ROM and a custom kernel?
My only concern with custom ROMs is that I use banking apps and other apps that then may not work when rooted or on custom firmware. Does Magisk get past this? I have been using the 3T this morning and other than the unusable battery, the phone is quite nice. I like the size, the performance is decent enough (I expect it'll improve on a custom ROM) and the screen is brighter than my Pixel 2XL. It is definitely slower though, apps like gmail take a couple of seconds longer to load, but I am never in much of a rush!
How much did OnePlus charge you for a battery replacement? Can it be sent off to them when on a custom ROM, or does it need to be fully stock for them to do any work on it?
Thanks.

gman88667733 said:
Good to know, thanks.
Would that be a Pie custom ROM and a custom kernel?
My only concern with custom ROMs is that I use banking apps and other apps that then may not work when rooted or on custom firmware. Does Magisk get past this? I have been using the 3T this morning and other than the unusable battery, the phone is quite nice. I like the size, the performance is decent enough (I expect it'll improve on a custom ROM) and the screen is brighter than my Pixel 2XL. It is definitely slower though, apps like gmail take a couple of seconds longer to load, but I am never in much of a rush!
How much did OnePlus charge you for a battery replacement? Can it be sent off to them when on a custom ROM, or does it need to be fully stock for them to do any work on it?
Thanks.
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Havoc/Resurrection Remix etc are custom ROMs which come bundled with their own custom kernel. Mind you, Pie versions of custom ROMs are mainly to be found in their up-to-date threads (even if they're updated for the Q versions). Check the most thanked posts on the sidebar in the Havoc thread for an easy way to get to the updated Pie ROM with the latest security patches.
Magisk does pass CTS and banking apps/Google Pay work in my case, but it does need a module and some editing in order to work. The MagiskHide Props Config module does that job, you'll need to configure it - selecting OnePlus as brand and 3T as model, latest update, works though. Here's a quick link to the module's thread with info etc. You'll also need Busybox (available again as a module in Magisk) in order to get the Props Config module to work.
The battery replacement was free even though the initial quote was around 36€ so around 30 quid - don't know why, might have been because of the free out-of-warranty camera replacement I requested as well. I'd suggest doing that too, the original OP3 and 3T cameras are known to stop focusing after a while and OnePlus offers a free fix even if the phone is out of warranty.

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Havoc/Resurrection Remix etc are custom ROMs which come bundled with their own custom kernel. Mind you, Pie versions of custom ROMs are mainly to be found in their up-to-date threads (even if they're updated for the Q versions). Check the most thanked posts on the sidebar in the Havoc thread for an easy way to get to the updated Pie ROM with the latest security patches.
Magisk does pass CTS and banking apps/Google Pay work in my case, but it does need a module and some editing in order to work. The MagiskHide Props Config module does that job, you'll need to configure it - selecting OnePlus as brand and 3T as model, latest update, works though. Here's a quick link to the module's thread with info etc. You'll also need Busybox (available again as a module in Magisk) in order to get the Props Config module to work.
The battery replacement was free even though the initial quote was around 36€ so around 30 quid - don't know why, might have been because of the free out-of-warranty camera replacement I requested as well. I'd suggest doing that too, the original OP3 and 3T cameras are known to stop focusing after a while and OnePlus offers a free fix even if the phone is out of warranty.
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Okay, thanks again. A battery is about £15 online and replacement is very easy, so I am not sure whether to do it DIY or get them to do it and hope they may do it for free if I claim to have camera issues? (it focuses fine at the moment...)
I've had fairly good experiences with Resurrection Remix in the past when I dabbled with ROMs on my Nexus 6P (I stopped when I got my Moto Z Play as it never really needed it) So I'll give that a go tonight and see how it performs. The battery truly is shot, my partner who owned it before always had it at 100% brightness and used it whilst charging, so it degraded very quickly. As did the OnePlus 5 I gave her last year.!!!
I wish screens were cheaper for it as it has severe burn in on the notification bar, due to it being used at full brightness all the time... but the rest of the phone is in mint condition, so it seems daft to pay a fair amount of money to get rid of some burn in...

gman88667733 said:
Okay, thanks again. A battery is about £15 online and replacement is very easy, so I am not sure whether to do it DIY or get them to do it and hope they may do it for free if I claim to have camera issues? (it focuses fine at the moment...)
I've had fairly good experiences with Resurrection Remix in the past when I dabbled with ROMs on my Nexus 6P (I stopped when I got my Moto Z Play as it never really needed it) So I'll give that a go tonight and see how it performs. The battery truly is shot, my partner who owned it before always had it at 100% brightness and used it whilst charging, so it degraded very quickly. As did the OnePlus 5 I gave her last year.!!!
I wish screens were cheaper for it as it has severe burn in on the notification bar, due to it being used at full brightness all the time... but the rest of the phone is in mint condition, so it seems daft to pay a fair amount of money to get rid of some burn in...
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You're welcome! I chose the RMA way just to be extra safe, I wanted an OEM battery after reading mixed reviews concerning third party batteries (the general consensus is that they're not as long lasting, but the ones from ReplaceBase should be at least half decent) and the price difference has been worth it, for now. My autofocus was just starting to malfunction when I applied for the RMA, you could try and give it a shot.
Yeah, screens are expensive and the chances of getting an LCD display or a flickering screen when using a custom ROM are rather high and not worth the price if the burn-in doesn't bother you that much.

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You're welcome! I chose the RMA way just to be extra safe, I wanted an OEM battery after reading mixed reviews concerning third party batteries (the general consensus is that they're not as long lasting, but the ones from ReplaceBase should be at least half decent) and the price difference has been worth it, for now. My autofocus was just starting to malfunction when I applied for the RMA, you could try and give it a shot.
Yeah, screens are expensive and the chances of getting an LCD display or a flickering screen when using a custom ROM are rather high and not worth the price if the burn-in doesn't bother you that much.
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Is it just autofocus that is the issue? Tap to focus works fine. Autofocus does seem a bit temperamental....
What is your battery like post-replacement?

OnePlus customer service say they will replace camera free of charge (it doesn't seem too bad, but may as well?) And they will replace the battery for £24.50
Not a bad price really!
Assuming I can get WiFi calling to work, I think I will get it replaced. As long as I can get 5 hours SOT out of it across a mixed usage day, that'd be the maximum I'd ever need. I rarely ever go over 3.5-4 hours SOT on any day on any of my phones.

That's not a bad price at all!
SoT is, well, extremely subjective but I usually get around 4.5/5 hours SoT if mainly outdoors on LTE. WiFi, on the other hand, I can easily get around 6.5 to even 7 hours SoT. That's mainly Reddit/YouTube/Telegram/a bit of Instagram.
Autofocus started getting way more erratic than usual, tap to focus sometimes did nothing - this will generally degrade to a point where the camera won't even focus in manual mode. Also, backup your data before sending the phone (and maybe leave it on stock OOS). You'll basically start fresh with a locked bootloader and OOS 9.0.6.

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That's not a bad price at all!
SoT is, well, extremely subjective but I usually get around 4.5/5 hours SoT if mainly outdoors on LTE. WiFi, on the other hand, I can easily get around 6.5 to even 7 hours SoT. That's mainly Reddit/YouTube/Telegram/a bit of Instagram.
Autofocus started getting way more erratic than usual, tap to focus sometimes did nothing - this will generally degrade to a point where the camera won't even focus in manual mode. Also, backup your data before sending the phone (and maybe leave it on stock OOS). You'll basically start fresh with a locked bootloader and OOS 9.0.6.
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Oh wow, really? That is better that I would have imagined it would get!
I am hoping it may work out if I stay on stock as I do prefer sticking to stock these days, but if not, I will give RR a go.

gman88667733 said:
Oh wow, really? That is better that I would have imagined it would get!
I am hoping it may work out if I stay on stock as I do prefer sticking to stock these days, but if not, I will give RR a go.
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Stock shouldn't be that far off those numbers. Hope you'll enjoy it!

Here's hoping!
What sort of a performance increase would there be in RR over stock? Noticeable?

Are they still giving free fix for the camera in OnePlus 3?

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Are they still giving free fix for the camera in OnePlus 3?
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Yes. I was told yesterday by OnePlus that they will fix it for free even though it is well out of warranty

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Here's hoping!
What sort of a performance increase would there be in RR over stock? Noticeable?
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Sorry for the delay - RR, Havoc and custom ROMs in general would both feel smoother and more battery-friendly over stock, but I don't know if it's that huge of a difference. Haven't really tried Pie OOS that much but it felt like there was a bit more stutter when compared to custom ROMs.