I've been given a white and gold 3T that was no longer needed. The battery is a bit shot and the screen has burn in on the status bar. I was thinking, if I send it off for a new battery by OnePlus, is it worth using?
My current phone is a Pixel 2XL, but I am missing the headphone jack and the cell reception isn't the best...
Is the 3T decent on the stock rom? Or is it better on a custom rom/kernel?
I only really use YouTube, Gmail, Netflix and messenger... Just want it to be smooth enough.
Thanks
The stock ROM updated to the latest security patch seems okay. YouTube is a bit laggy compared to my Pixel 2Xl.
I do prefer the size of the 3T though, it's really compact.
Would a custom kernel speed up the stock ROM? On apps like YouTube?
Also, I have managed to get the WiFi calling option to appear in settings, but from memory, I don't think it actually works? I am on the 3 UK network.
I sent mine a couple of months ago for a new battery and it's 100% worth it.
Custom kernels do speed up the stock ROM but your battery life might suffer a bit., so if you want the best experience I'd suggest a custom ROM based on Pie (e.g. Havoc/Luis' Resurrection Remix). Q ROMs are good enough but most of the better ones (as far as battery life is concerned) don't support device encryption yet.
I cannot comment on WiFi calling as I don't use it at all.
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I sent mine a couple of months ago for a new battery and it's 100% worth it.
Custom kernels do speed up the stock ROM but your battery life might suffer a bit., so if you want the best experience I'd suggest a custom ROM based on Pie (e.g. Havoc/Luis' Resurrection Remix). Q ROMs are good enough but most of the better ones (as far as battery life is concerned) don't support device encryption yet.
I cannot comment on WiFi calling as I don't use it at all.
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Good to know, thanks.
Would that be a Pie custom ROM and a custom kernel?
My only concern with custom ROMs is that I use banking apps and other apps that then may not work when rooted or on custom firmware. Does Magisk get past this? I have been using the 3T this morning and other than the unusable battery, the phone is quite nice. I like the size, the performance is decent enough (I expect it'll improve on a custom ROM) and the screen is brighter than my Pixel 2XL. It is definitely slower though, apps like gmail take a couple of seconds longer to load, but I am never in much of a rush!
How much did OnePlus charge you for a battery replacement? Can it be sent off to them when on a custom ROM, or does it need to be fully stock for them to do any work on it?
Thanks.
gman88667733 said:
Good to know, thanks.
Would that be a Pie custom ROM and a custom kernel?
My only concern with custom ROMs is that I use banking apps and other apps that then may not work when rooted or on custom firmware. Does Magisk get past this? I have been using the 3T this morning and other than the unusable battery, the phone is quite nice. I like the size, the performance is decent enough (I expect it'll improve on a custom ROM) and the screen is brighter than my Pixel 2XL. It is definitely slower though, apps like gmail take a couple of seconds longer to load, but I am never in much of a rush!
How much did OnePlus charge you for a battery replacement? Can it be sent off to them when on a custom ROM, or does it need to be fully stock for them to do any work on it?
Thanks.
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Havoc/Resurrection Remix etc are custom ROMs which come bundled with their own custom kernel. Mind you, Pie versions of custom ROMs are mainly to be found in their up-to-date threads (even if they're updated for the Q versions). Check the most thanked posts on the sidebar in the Havoc thread for an easy way to get to the updated Pie ROM with the latest security patches.
Magisk does pass CTS and banking apps/Google Pay work in my case, but it does need a module and some editing in order to work. The MagiskHide Props Config module does that job, you'll need to configure it - selecting OnePlus as brand and 3T as model, latest update, works though. Here's a quick link to the module's thread with info etc. You'll also need Busybox (available again as a module in Magisk) in order to get the Props Config module to work.
The battery replacement was free even though the initial quote was around 36€ so around 30 quid - don't know why, might have been because of the free out-of-warranty camera replacement I requested as well. I'd suggest doing that too, the original OP3 and 3T cameras are known to stop focusing after a while and OnePlus offers a free fix even if the phone is out of warranty.
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Havoc/Resurrection Remix etc are custom ROMs which come bundled with their own custom kernel. Mind you, Pie versions of custom ROMs are mainly to be found in their up-to-date threads (even if they're updated for the Q versions). Check the most thanked posts on the sidebar in the Havoc thread for an easy way to get to the updated Pie ROM with the latest security patches.
Magisk does pass CTS and banking apps/Google Pay work in my case, but it does need a module and some editing in order to work. The MagiskHide Props Config module does that job, you'll need to configure it - selecting OnePlus as brand and 3T as model, latest update, works though. Here's a quick link to the module's thread with info etc. You'll also need Busybox (available again as a module in Magisk) in order to get the Props Config module to work.
The battery replacement was free even though the initial quote was around 36€ so around 30 quid - don't know why, might have been because of the free out-of-warranty camera replacement I requested as well. I'd suggest doing that too, the original OP3 and 3T cameras are known to stop focusing after a while and OnePlus offers a free fix even if the phone is out of warranty.
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Okay, thanks again. A battery is about £15 online and replacement is very easy, so I am not sure whether to do it DIY or get them to do it and hope they may do it for free if I claim to have camera issues? (it focuses fine at the moment...)
I've had fairly good experiences with Resurrection Remix in the past when I dabbled with ROMs on my Nexus 6P (I stopped when I got my Moto Z Play as it never really needed it) So I'll give that a go tonight and see how it performs. The battery truly is shot, my partner who owned it before always had it at 100% brightness and used it whilst charging, so it degraded very quickly. As did the OnePlus 5 I gave her last year.!!!
I wish screens were cheaper for it as it has severe burn in on the notification bar, due to it being used at full brightness all the time... but the rest of the phone is in mint condition, so it seems daft to pay a fair amount of money to get rid of some burn in...
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Okay, thanks again. A battery is about £15 online and replacement is very easy, so I am not sure whether to do it DIY or get them to do it and hope they may do it for free if I claim to have camera issues? (it focuses fine at the moment...)
I've had fairly good experiences with Resurrection Remix in the past when I dabbled with ROMs on my Nexus 6P (I stopped when I got my Moto Z Play as it never really needed it) So I'll give that a go tonight and see how it performs. The battery truly is shot, my partner who owned it before always had it at 100% brightness and used it whilst charging, so it degraded very quickly. As did the OnePlus 5 I gave her last year.!!!
I wish screens were cheaper for it as it has severe burn in on the notification bar, due to it being used at full brightness all the time... but the rest of the phone is in mint condition, so it seems daft to pay a fair amount of money to get rid of some burn in...
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You're welcome! I chose the RMA way just to be extra safe, I wanted an OEM battery after reading mixed reviews concerning third party batteries (the general consensus is that they're not as long lasting, but the ones from ReplaceBase should be at least half decent) and the price difference has been worth it, for now. My autofocus was just starting to malfunction when I applied for the RMA, you could try and give it a shot.
Yeah, screens are expensive and the chances of getting an LCD display or a flickering screen when using a custom ROM are rather high and not worth the price if the burn-in doesn't bother you that much.
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You're welcome! I chose the RMA way just to be extra safe, I wanted an OEM battery after reading mixed reviews concerning third party batteries (the general consensus is that they're not as long lasting, but the ones from ReplaceBase should be at least half decent) and the price difference has been worth it, for now. My autofocus was just starting to malfunction when I applied for the RMA, you could try and give it a shot.
Yeah, screens are expensive and the chances of getting an LCD display or a flickering screen when using a custom ROM are rather high and not worth the price if the burn-in doesn't bother you that much.
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Is it just autofocus that is the issue? Tap to focus works fine. Autofocus does seem a bit temperamental....
What is your battery like post-replacement?
OnePlus customer service say they will replace camera free of charge (it doesn't seem too bad, but may as well?) And they will replace the battery for £24.50
Not a bad price really!
Assuming I can get WiFi calling to work, I think I will get it replaced. As long as I can get 5 hours SOT out of it across a mixed usage day, that'd be the maximum I'd ever need. I rarely ever go over 3.5-4 hours SOT on any day on any of my phones.
That's not a bad price at all!
SoT is, well, extremely subjective but I usually get around 4.5/5 hours SoT if mainly outdoors on LTE. WiFi, on the other hand, I can easily get around 6.5 to even 7 hours SoT. That's mainly Reddit/YouTube/Telegram/a bit of Instagram.
Autofocus started getting way more erratic than usual, tap to focus sometimes did nothing - this will generally degrade to a point where the camera won't even focus in manual mode. Also, backup your data before sending the phone (and maybe leave it on stock OOS). You'll basically start fresh with a locked bootloader and OOS 9.0.6.
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That's not a bad price at all!
SoT is, well, extremely subjective but I usually get around 4.5/5 hours SoT if mainly outdoors on LTE. WiFi, on the other hand, I can easily get around 6.5 to even 7 hours SoT. That's mainly Reddit/YouTube/Telegram/a bit of Instagram.
Autofocus started getting way more erratic than usual, tap to focus sometimes did nothing - this will generally degrade to a point where the camera won't even focus in manual mode. Also, backup your data before sending the phone (and maybe leave it on stock OOS). You'll basically start fresh with a locked bootloader and OOS 9.0.6.
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Oh wow, really? That is better that I would have imagined it would get!
I am hoping it may work out if I stay on stock as I do prefer sticking to stock these days, but if not, I will give RR a go.
gman88667733 said:
Oh wow, really? That is better that I would have imagined it would get!
I am hoping it may work out if I stay on stock as I do prefer sticking to stock these days, but if not, I will give RR a go.
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Stock shouldn't be that far off those numbers. Hope you'll enjoy it!
Here's hoping!
What sort of a performance increase would there be in RR over stock? Noticeable?
Are they still giving free fix for the camera in OnePlus 3?
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Are they still giving free fix for the camera in OnePlus 3?
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Yes. I was told yesterday by OnePlus that they will fix it for free even though it is well out of warranty
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Here's hoping!
What sort of a performance increase would there be in RR over stock? Noticeable?
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Sorry for the delay - RR, Havoc and custom ROMs in general would both feel smoother and more battery-friendly over stock, but I don't know if it's that huge of a difference. Haven't really tried Pie OOS that much but it felt like there was a bit more stutter when compared to custom ROMs.
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Hi.
I've been looking at quite a number of new phones recently deciding that its the time to upgrade. I bought a Oneplus Two but sold it on after it was just too big and heavy for me. Its was overkill for what I needed really. I currently have a Moto X 2013 which I love but development on XDA has pretty much stalled. I have been looking at the Moto X 2014 as it can be picked up new for a good price over here in the UK.
So would you say its still worth buying even now?
Cheers.
I think this phone is pretty unique, even if some people would consider it an "old" device, so I'd still recommend buying it if one is looking for an original approach to android.
A Snapdragon 801, a nice FHD AMOLED, a mean front speaker, an ergonomic and original design with sturdy build quality are definitely its main objectively strong points.
It's got some flaws, such as a slightly subpar camera and a small battery (which will still last the canonical 16 hours, mind you).
What sets this phone apart from others, however, is the IR and motion sensors paired with always-on speech recognition, which will give you surprisingly reliable functionality on a stock ROM, but those are unfortunately stuck at 6.0... If I had to choose one flaw in this phone, it'd be Lenovo's fault.
It's not like gestures and voice recognition don't work in custom ROMs, they do, but it's not the same level of optimization (I've explained it more than once in lengthy and boring posts like this one )
Bottom line: this phone is awesome, I'm running 7.1.1 ATM and it's a neat user experience, but I'm not going to delete that 7 GB TWRP backup of my stock ROM+Xposed setup anytime soon!
(yes, I have the 32 GB, I assume you won't even look at the 16 GB model 'cause it's really not worth it)
I think so. I just bought a new one (XT1096) with 64Gb off ebay. The shipping was slow, but worth the wait. It came from Hong Kong. My old one was 32 Gb. The battery wasn't holding well and BT was kind of flaky. I also bought a new Moto G4 for my wife. It's a great phone, but it's too big for me. I loved my old Ghost too. I was the perfect size.
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Bottom line: this phone is awesome, I'm running 7.1.1 ATM and it's a neat user experience, but I'm not going to delete that 7 GB TWRP backup of my stock ROM+Xposed setup anytime soon!
(yes, I have the 32 GB, I assume you won't even look at the 16 GB model 'cause it's really not worth it)
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I also have my stock ROM backup.
What is 7.1.1 ATM?
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I also have my stock ROM backup.
What is 7.1.1 ATM?
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ATM stands for At The Moment
By the way it's Resurrection Remix, there's no better 7.1 ROM out there
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ATM stands for At The Moment
By the way it's Resurrection Remix, there's no better 7.1 ROM out there
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How is it? Are there any issues? How is its performance/battery life compared to the stock rom??
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How is it? Are there any issues? How is its performance/battery life compared to the stock rom??
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I'd say it's the only ROM that doesn't make you regret leaving stock firmware.
Battery life and performance are both way better, but it's still got a couple bugs (charging while the phone is off doesn't show any percentage and 1080p recording is unstable)
I'm usually very picky about bugs and features, but this ROM really nails 95% of what it should.
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I'd say it's the only ROM that doesn't make you regret leaving stock firmware.
Battery life and performance are both way better, but it's still got a couple bugs (charging while the phone is off doesn't show any percentage and 1080p recording is unstable)
I'm usually very picky about bugs and features, but this ROM really nails 95% of what it should.
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Are you sure its better than Lineage OS? How much Screen On Time you usually get? How nuch you get on Antutu Benchmark?
I usually get around 4-5 hours of SOT on a 16 hour day. I use substratum with a black theme and sprinkle charges when I need to, but it's got solid standby. I never run benchmarks, but it's definitely smoother than marshmallow
I'm sure it's better than Lineage because I've tried pretty much every ROM and RR is essentially the most stable version of CM with extra features and improved battery
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I usually get around 4-5 hours of SOT on a 16 hour day. I use substratum with a black theme and sprinkle charges when I need to, but it's got solid standby. I never run benchmarks, but it's definitely smoother than marshmallow
I'm sure it's better than Lineage because I've tried pretty much every ROM and RR is essentially the most stable version of CM with extra features and improved battery
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I heard some people complained about camera issues, do you have any?
Yes, I haven't updated to the latest build yet but I can confirm that recording 1080p videos will most likely reboot your device. 720p works fine and is not that much of a loss on a smartphone sensor
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Yes, I haven't updated to the latest build yet but I can confirm that recording 1080p videos will most likely reboot your device. 720p works fine and is not that much of a loss on a smartphone sensor
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What about 4K? Why you are not recording on 4K?
i woudn't buy it at the moment... i would consider a xiaomi. this one is not supported by qualcomm anymore so... it's better to buy something newer (2015 or more)
I've previously used a Redmi Note 4X and a currently use a ZUK Edge, and no matter how hard I tried to get used to MIUI/ZUI, I eventually got sick of the missing functionality and quirks of the stock roms on these phones.
I was amazed how much better my experience was after I switched to AOSPExtended on the RN4X and Mokee on the Edge. Looking at the threads there are plenty of AOSP/Lineage based roms for the Mix, but not many detailed bug lists. I'm very tempted to pick one up now that the price has gone down, and I want something with better battery life than the 3100mAh Edge.
Can anyone recommend the current most stable and functional rom for the Mix? What are some pros and cons of the different roms like crDroid, AOSPExtended, Lineage, etc?
Thanks!
Out of the box, MIUI (or MIUI-based ROMs like EPIC) will have better battery life judging by comments made in RR/LOS etc threads. I don't pay attention to battery life because I'm never far from a charger and I don't do anything that heavily drains it, like gaming. The ZUK Edge has the same SoC as the Mix but it has a 4400mAh battery so I would assume that battery life will naturally be longer, even with the slightly larger screen. Other users that pay more attention to battery life like albertoduqe will be able to give you more insight.
As for bugs, I have never experienced anything major. I've only tried RR, LOS, Viper and AOSP Extended but the only annoying one I encountered was losing the proximity sensor (reboot to fix). Some other complaints are speakerphone echo, slow to wake from fingerprint scanner (mostly gone now IIRC), loss of sound when switching back from bluetooth headset and upside down front-facing camera (fix).
Since they all pretty much seem to use the same base, you'll see the same issues posted on many of the threads for those ROMs. In that same vein, much of the same functionality can be found on them all too. You will find some stuff missing on some, but it'll often be minor. Like on Viper you don't have full control over the nav bar. Yes, you can add extra buttons but they can only do a small number of things, but on RR you can configure them to do virtually anything (and on long/double tap too). The only way you'll find out all their functionality is to flash them, or at least ask in their respective threads. If I leave MIUI (43rd time) then I will go back to RR as the dev is the most responsive and any issues get addressed very quickly.
The pros for MIUI are better battery life (but by how much really?), better camera quality (I've seen this claimed a few times but never saw an explanation as to why) and smoother general experience (I can confirm that MIUI/EPIC are indeed less prone to stuttering etc, even after tweaking, especially with MIUI 9).
Thanks for that, appreciate the detailed response. I might try MIUI first and see how I go. Normally I get offended by the horrific weather thing at the top of the notification shade, but the Eureka 8 Pro theme makes it look acceptable.
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Thanks for that, appreciate the detailed response. I might try MIUI first and see how I go. Normally I get offended by the horrific weather thing at the top of the notification shade, but the Eureka 8 Pro theme makes it look acceptable.
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All the one's I tried were very similar, viper os
Just edged it, slightly quicker fingerprint unlock and better proximity sensor. Don't rule out miui 9 it is very good.
I would say that the unofficial AOKP ROM was probably the smoothest and had the best battery life. Trouble is it doesn't seem to be maintained and no NFC is implemented.
RR is great, feature packed but I have always had some small bug that prevented me from having it as a daily driver. For example, last build would not allow me to change from charging to transfer files. The one benefit of RR is the maintainer is very active and responds.
For me, the official LOS has been the most stable, albeit a little boring.
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For me, the official LOS has been the most stable, albeit a little boring.
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Sounds fine by me, on Lineage I'm not really interested in customization and bells and whistles, beyond the notification quick toggles
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Sounds fine by me, on Lineage I'm not really interested in customization and bells and whistles, beyond the notification quick toggles
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I think you will be very happy with LOS then.
I have tried all the others and always return to it. It just works.
Hi all,
As the title suggests, please post your screen shots of your max SOT and I'll update the leaderboard with the top 10.
I'll post my max to set it off, bare in mind please, this is only for normal usage not for leaving your phone plugged in all day with reading mode on, this is only for real world usage.
Averages are about 8 hours on the OnePlus 5 but some average a lot higher, myself I normally get between 8-10 hours however on occasion (usually when on the internet researching ) I'll crank up some crazy SOT, my highest being what I'll post below.
***NOTE***
To qualify, post your battery meter showing depletion and a long screen grab of your stats from the stock battery monitor, also post your ROM and version as well as your kernel and version, as i'll show below.
No cheating.
If you want to drop your BBS stat file then please feel free although it's not needed to register your SOT score. Personally i don't give two hoots about this, it's complete overkill so don't feel obliged to record it.
Leaderboard
1. dladz - 14 hours and 30 minutes.xXx stock
2. DorianX 13 hours 34 minutes OB12 - flash kernel
3. esco38 12 hours 40 minutes Stock - Stock
4. RogerF81 - 11 hours 23 minutes Stock OOS 5.0.4 - Flash Kernel 3.17
5. Asv97 - 11 hours 11 minutes xXx - Renderzenith
6. strongst - 11 hours 1 minutes xXx - stock
7. Pokemetti2 - 9 hours 11 minutes - CRDroid - stock
8. mshinni80 - 9 hours - stock + blu spark
9. 350Rocket - 8 hours 23 minutes - stock 9.0.10 - stock
10. Newcomer6789 - 8 hours - OB12 - Franco
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Mavellos 5 hours 42 minutes - pure stock
Imprezzion - 7 hours 58 minutes AEX - stock
Others (no screen shots)
Pycxe 13 hours and 12 minutes
Obelisk79 13 hours and 37 minutes xXx - boeffla
Good luck :good:
Usually average 8-10 but this is my highest.
ROM: No limits 10.1a
Kernel: stock
11h sot, everything mentioned here already https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/review/screen-time-t3646100/post75452269 usually I get 8+h but that depends on signal strength, apps and traveling you know
Got 10 hr 25 min SoT once but I'm not able to find the screenshot so I'm uploading this screenshot of 10hr SoT
xXx ROM
Renderzenith kernel. @dladz
@dladz Time to update the rankings
XxX 10.5+ Rz kernel.50% wifi 50% mobile data.No stupid mods like greenify/amplify.
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@dladz Time to update the rankings
XxX 10.5+ Rz kernel.50% wifi 50% mobile data.No stupid mods like greenify/amplify.
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As Borat would say, Niiiiiieeece
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75468555&postcount=4
11h 23 min on Stock OOS 5.0.4 + Flash Kernel 3.17
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76725110&postcount=2176
13 hours & 11 minutes on Open Beta 10 + Franco Kernel r29
P.S.- Got 13,5 hours of SoT by the time my battery level was 1%, but didn't make screenshots.
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13 hours & 11 minutes on Open Beta 10 + Franco Kernel r29
P.S.- Got 13,5 hours of SoT by the time my battery level was 1%, but didn't make screenshots.
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Well sir, that is stupidly good.
Well played.
Have to say I've got the p20 pro with a 4,000Mah battery, can't come close to the 1+5.
That being said, I completely believe you but without proper proof it's a little hollow..
I'll put you up for now but will need a repeat.
What ROM, kernel??
How do you guys manage to get such high SOT? Talking specifically to @dladz, have you selected anything in particular while installing xXx like those features in AROMA to enhance battery?
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How do you guys manage to get such high SOT? Talking specifically to @dladz, have you selected anything in particular while installing xXx like those features in AROMA to enhance battery?
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No not really, i've not got this phone anymore i've just sold it but the settings are pretty much stock.
Turn off gestures, live widgets.
i only have one page on the pixel launcher.
No apps with ads in them, 1 gmail account nothing else, no facebook, no viber / skype / work email / snap chat
I only use whatsapp and twitter now and again.
4G, Wifi, location i always leave on.
No google photos, no automatic updates, no bloat unless what i need.
Auto brightness on, Stock kernel, No xposed, Black theme.
No antivirus, no back up facility, tweaked google to not collect so much data, deny most apps location unless required.
No overclocks or underclocks, no CPU / GPU governor client.
basically just lighten the load as much as possible, bare in mind that i don't always get 14 hours, i mean that's insane, i was doing a lot of reading online that day and it just clocked up the hours, i was amazed when it went past 10 hours with around 20-30% left.
Your battery is going to depend on your usage and your apps.
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No not really, i've not got this phone anymore i've just sold it but the settings are pretty much stock.
Turn off gestures, live widgets.
i only have one page on the pixel launcher.
No apps with ads in them, 1 gmail account nothing else, no facebook, no viber / skype / work email / snap chat
I only use whatsapp and twitter now and again.
4G, Wifi, location i always leave on.
No google photos, no automatic updates, no bloat unless what i need.
Auto brightness on, Stock kernel, No xposed, Black theme.
No antivirus, no back up facility, tweaked google to not collect so much data, deny most apps location unless required.
No overclocks or underclocks, no CPU / GPU governor client.
basically just lighten the load as much as possible, bare in mind that i don't always get 14 hours, i mean that's insane, i was doing a lot of reading online that day and it just clocked up the hours, i was amazed when it went past 10 hours with around 20-30% left.
Your battery is going to depend on your usage and your apps.
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Oh really, P20 Pro now?
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No not really, i've not got this phone anymore i've just sold it but the settings are pretty much stock.
Turn off gestures, live widgets.
i only have one page on the pixel launcher.
No apps with ads in them, 1 gmail account nothing else, no facebook, no viber / skype / work email / snap chat
I only use whatsapp and twitter now and again.
4G, Wifi, location i always leave on.
No google photos, no automatic updates, no bloat unless what i need.
Auto brightness on, Stock kernel, No xposed, Black theme.
No antivirus, no back up facility, tweaked google to not collect so much data, deny most apps location unless required.
No overclocks or underclocks, no CPU / GPU governor client.
basically just lighten the load as much as possible, bare in mind that i don't always get 14 hours, i mean that's insane, i was doing a lot of reading online that day and it just clocked up the hours, i was amazed when it went past 10 hours with around 20-30% left.
Your battery is going to depend on your usage and your apps.
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What are you using now? I bought a pixel 2 xl and had to return it to the original seller. The pixel 2 xl software is amazing but the hardware is trash. Build quality isnt worth that premium price everyone paid for when it first released.
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What are you using now? I bought a pixel 2 xl and had to return it to the original seller. The pixel 2 xl software is amazing but the hardware is trash. Build quality isnt worth that premium price everyone paid for when it first released.
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It's in my signature, the P20 Pro, it's a pretty special device tbh.
Camera, battery, screen, performance is all amazing.
The only problem is the development lol it's a little light on ROMs, although the stock image once you're rooted is actually very good, I can change any aspect of the ROM and I'm completely fine with it
The only problem I've got is with the variants (models) available in the world, there's so many of them and lastly Huawei have decided to stop allowing bootloader unlocking which for many is a deal breaker, it hasn't happened yet but it will in the coming weeks
As I've already unlocked mine its ok.
My colleague in work has the pixel 2 which he loves, camera is excellent, plus I'm guessing the development scene is pretty strong, I'm not a fan of their design though.
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What ROM, kernel??
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I'm on OnePlus 5, OxygenOS Open Beta 11, Magisk 16.4 (1642) and Franco Kernel version r29 - all flashed subsequently and through the latest twrp-3.2.1-0-20180414-codeworkx-cheeseburger recovery.
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Oh really, P20 Pro now?
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Yep, it's not bad, just sold my 1+5 on Swappa for $340, tbh it's in great condition it's been my favourite phone up til now by some way, the only thing that ever bugged me was the lack of OIS which when you go back to a phone that has it like the p20 pro and even my previous device (HTC 10) you realise how important it really is.
Beyond that the OnePlus 5 is for me still their best device, reason being is the battery Vs screen size /Res, the 5T had a higher resolution and larger, the 6 I think even higher and even larger, yet the battery is the same so the SOT's you're seeing here just won't be possible, not even close.
I know the 845 is meant to be even more efficient but it's not going to be enough to compete here, unfortunately.
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Yep, it's not bad, just sold my 1+5 on Swappa for $340, tbh it's in great condition it's been my favourite phone up til now by some way, the only thing that ever bugged me was the lack of OIS which when you go back to a phone that has it like the p20 pro and even my previous device (HTC 10) you realise how important it really is.
Beyond that the OnePlus 5 is for me still their best device, reason being is the battery Vs screen size /Res, the 5T had a higher resolution and larger, the 6 I think even higher and even larger, yet the battery is the same so the SOT's you're seeing here just won't be possible, not even close.
I know the 845 is meant to be even more efficient but it's not going to be enough to compete here, unfortunately.
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Yeah that's right.
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It's in my signature, the P20 Pro, it's a pretty special device tbh.
Camera, battery, screen, performance is all amazing.
The only problem is the development lol it's a little light on ROMs, although the stock image once you're rooted is actually very good, I can change any aspect of the ROM and I'm completely fine with it
The only problem I've got is with the variants (models) available in the world, there's so many of them and lastly Huawei have decided to stop allowing bootloader unlocking which for many is a deal breaker, it hasn't happened yet but it will in the coming weeks
As I've already unlocked mine its ok.
My colleague in work has the pixel 2 which he loves, camera is excellent, plus I'm guessing the development scene is pretty strong, I'm not a fan of their design though.
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Ah glad you found something you like. As much as I like my OnePlus 5 I feel like I need an upgrade as well. It's a solid phone in my honest opinion. I'm looking into the V30! I've heard a lot of positive input about it (except for the FFC). I don't take selfies much so that might not be deal break for me.
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Ah glad you found something you like. As much as I like my OnePlus 5 I feel like I need an upgrade as well. It's a solid phone in my honest opinion. I'm looking into the V30! I've heard a lot of positive input about it (except for the FFC). I don't take selfies much so that might not be deal break for me.
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I've never had an LG phone, but i've seen my colleagues disappointment after the novelty of the camera wore off, it's the UI it's just not great tbh.
But it's up to you man
Oh well, compared to you guys 11 hours I didn't get all that high but still very impressed as i did use Google Maps navigation for quite a while and YouTube for 5 hours.. It managed 7 hours and 58 minutes with 4% left. Could easily go 8h+.
This is done on stock latest AEX (Aosp Extended) with a amoled friendly theme .
what is the best ROM official and updated without compromise for Exynos? That improves battery.
Stock One UI.
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Stock One UI.
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I'm on stock One UI with latest OTA update. That is what you mean I presume? Battery life is average, not great. But I expect more with my usage and settings
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I'm on stock One UI with latest OTA update. That is what you mean I presume? Battery life is average, not great. But I expect more with my usage and settings
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That's correct. We are always expecting more and more... One UI is the only ROM that fits your requirements, the Note doesn't have any official ROMs afaik. If you really want the best possible battery life, take a look at either Oreo Lineage or AEX.
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That's correct. We are always expecting more and more... One UI is the only ROM that fits your requirements, the Note doesn't have any official ROMs afaik. If you really want the best possible battery life, take a look at either Oreo Lineage or AEX.
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Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks
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Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks
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If you think about physics of things, you'll start to understand that what is advertised often isn't possible. The battery is a 15.4 Wh cell, when you consider that the 9810 SOC on it's own can draw 3 - 4W, the display can draw 2W+, just these two together could flatten the battery in under 3 hours (15.4Wh / 6W = 2.56 hours). Sure the SOC is rarely at full load and the display is rarely going to be at full brightness on a white screen but the Note has a bunch of other hardware also consuming power.
I'm sorry if you paid $900 for a Note 9, I paid less than that a couple of days after launch, it's certainly not worth that kind of money now. Saying that though, IMO the Note 9 is still the best all round package. Other than perhaps the display, it isn't really the best at anything but manages to tick more boxes than anything else for me.
The reason there are no official ROMs is because no one wants to make them and AOSP Pie is proving to be rather challenging.
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Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks
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I find the battery life is exceedingly better than my previous Samsung S7, and I maintained a setup on the 7 with no GPS, bluetooth, or wifi/data on except when needed (using tasker style logics to keep battery utilization down). Now on the Note9 with OneUI updated from a fresh factory image, I leave on my GPS and Bluetooth all the time and only toggle wifi when in an area where I want to be on wifi (using Automate by Llamalabs). I find that by the end of my day I have between 50-60% more battery life left with the Note9, compared to about 30% with the S7.
My suspicion is that a lot of people are not getting the best results because of all the apps and radios they have turned on (maybe even themes and brightness), and possibly taking an update to Android 9 without then performing a factory reset. I did not install anything before upgrading to Android 9, and so I have had ZERO issues.
I've also used a lot of custom ROMs on my previous Samsungs, and none as good (polished and bug-free) as this OneUI.
I just suspect people are not doing it right. That's usually the case with a lot of things.
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I find the battery life is exceedingly better than my previous Samsung S7, and I maintained a setup on the 7 with no GPS, bluetooth, or wifi/data on except when needed (using tasker style logics to keep battery utilization down). Now on the Note9 with OneUI updated from a fresh factory image, I leave on my GPS and Bluetooth all the time and only toggle wifi when in an area where I want to be on wifi (using Automate by Llamalabs). I find that by the end of my day I have between 50-60% more battery life left with the Note9, compared to about 30% with the S7.
My suspicion is that a lot of people are not getting the best results because of all the apps and radios they have turned on (maybe even themes and brightness), and possibly taking an update to Android 9 without then performing a factory reset. I did not install anything before upgrading to Android 9, and so I have had ZERO issues.
I've also used a lot of custom ROMs on my previous Samsungs, and none as good (polished and bug-free) as this OneUI.
I just suspect people are not doing it right. That's usually the case with a lot of things.
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Well that also crossed my mind, but I'm very aware on how I use apps and radios.
Not a power user
Power mode Optimized
Screen resolution FHD+
Auto brightness ON
No gaming
Now and then Facebook lite, Netflix, YouTube, WhatsApp, Chrome
Very little Mobile Data (max half hour a day), default OFF
About 12 hours WiFi, default OFF
Bluetooth is standard off (max half hour a day)
NFC OFF
No high accuracy scanning BT or WiFi
AOD only on tap
Location ON
Im still running miui 10 and beside sensor issues in the worst moments and batteryperformance decreased (8-10h sot), im pretty happy.
The release of miui 14 looks pretty interesting, same like miui 13. Unluckily xiaomi will never bring any of those and therefore might xiaomi.eu never aswell.
Meanwhile is there any miui13 port which is super stable and perfectly working (i heart of ghost, miui tn, aphixrog). Im looking for something to flash, forget and never regret (for the next full year).
How is the battery performance ?
I would prefer stock vendor & kernal, no custom "magic" from few days experience dev .
Or should i forget about the "upgrade", stay on miui10 and investigate the drain issues ?
I've tried Abhix.
Thread '[Q] Has anyone tried miui custom roms MIUI SR or AbhiX ROG Edition (both are ports of MIUI 13 on Android 12)' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...h-are-ports-of-miui-13-on-android-12.4530039/
How is it possible that you have 8-10h SOT in 2+-year old phone? 5h SOT is pretty good, 6 is very good.
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How is it possible that you have 8-10h SOT in 2+-year old phone? 5h SOT is pretty good, 6 is very good.
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Depends on the usage, but everything on my phone is adjusted to consume as less as possible (but i havent done wild stuff like lower clockspeed, kernal, voltage... only debloat, disabled everything which could be battery intensive in settings, using leandroid + greenify), meanwhile i range between 7-9 hours i guess, when i fresh installed it i ranged between 8-11 hours.
My battery should still have efficiency around 85-90%, im trying to hold battery between 15-85%.
To answer your question. I personally think everything after miui 10 is bad.
I may gonna try MiuiTN, according telegram groups that seem to be the best miui 13 port.
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Depends on the usage, but everything on my phone is adjusted to consume as less as possible (but i havent done wild stuff like lower clockspeed, kernal, voltage... only debloat, disabled everything which could be battery intensive in settings, using leandroid + greenify), meanwhile i range between 7-9 hours i guess, when i fresh installed it i ranged between 8-11 hours.
My battery should still have efficiency around 85-90%, im trying to hold battery between 15-85%.
To answer your question. I personally think everything after miui 10 is bad.
I may gonna try MiuiTN, according telegram groups that seem to be the best miui 13 port.
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8-11h SOT? Picrel or didin't happen.
Which version are you going to test (https://miuitn.vercel.app/Rom_MiuiTN/Raphael/) and is there any info how to install (recovery version, filesystem, etc.)? And the most important - how safe is this?
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8-11h SOT? Picrel or didin't happen.
Which version are you going to test (https://miuitn.vercel.app/Rom_MiuiTN/Raphael/) and is there any info how to install (recovery version, filesystem, etc.)? And the most important - how safe is this?
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I dont have specific plans so far, because i didnt got enough time, maybe in christmas vacation.
Probably 1.8 and i read once that you need a specific recovery (unluckily cant tell you which).
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I dont have specific plans so far, because i didnt got enough time, maybe in christmas vacation.
Probably 1.8 and i read once that you need a specific recovery (unluckily cant tell you which).
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I checked miuitn 13 A12 but it doesn't have all languages (there is English and a few Asian ones only). Android security updates are from June, while RaphaelOS (also Miui 13 - 22.8.25, A12) are from August 1st. In general, I have the impression that all these roms are very similar. On stock kernel geekbench is 690 and 2675. On Steroid is 700 and 2747. But AbhiX feels more snappy.
Both roms (AbhiX as well) are without encription so you need standard recovery (I have latest official OrangeFox).
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I checked miuitn 13 A12 but it doesn't have all languages (there is English and a few Asian ones only). Android security updates are from June, while RaphaelOS (also Miui 13 - 22.8.25, A12) are from August 1st. In general, I have the impression that all these roms are very similar. On stock kernel geekbench is 690 and 2675. On Steroid is 700 and 2747. But AbhiX feels more snappy.
Both roms (AbhiX as well) are without encription so you need standard recovery (I have latest official OrangeFox).
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If there is a workaround to get native language in apps for me personally its not a big problem if i got english in os.
I havent tested a single miui 13 port so far, so i cant bring useful informations to this conversation unluckily.
According telegram groups MiuiTN seem to be the most stable, balanced rom and others are "kanged", but well yeah people talk on telegram...
I unluckily wont have time to test all of them myself so i might follow your experience ;D and maybe some other guys come along this thread and share their experience aswell.
Worst case i stay another year on miui 10 and get Rog Phone 6 after... Im just hell of annoyed my sensors do not work how they should on miui10 sometimes.
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If there is a workaround to get native language in apps for me personally its not a big problem if i got english in os.
I havent tested a single miui 13 port so far, so i cant bring useful informations to this conversation unluckily.
According telegram groups MiuiTN seem to be the most stable, balanced rom and others are "kanged", but well yeah people talk on telegram...
I unluckily wont have time to test all of them myself so i might follow your experience ;D and maybe some other guys come along this thread and share their experience aswell.
Worst case i stay another year on miui 10 and get Rog Phone 6 after... Im just hell of annoyed my sensors do not work how they should on miui10 sometimes.
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About Rog Phone 6 - it bends -
About native language - you can try https://github.com/BlueCat300/XposedAppSettings/releases
Dont go for RaphaelOs.
Better go for Miui12 or MiuiTn.
Im on VoltageOs 2.1 which is awesome, i heard also good stuff from Los20.
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8-11h SOT? Picrel or didin't happen.
Which version are you going to test (https://miuitn.vercel.app/Rom_MiuiTN/Raphael/) and is there any info how to install (recovery version, filesystem, etc.)? And the most important - how safe is this?
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BTW I'm using Evolution X with stock settings at 72Hz with no battery saving tweaks. I bought the phone more than 3 years ago and use it daily. Afraid to replace this beast because I'm so used to this good SOT.
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BTW I'm using Evolution X with stock settings at 72Hz with no battery saving tweaks. I bought the phone more than 3 years ago and use it daily. Afraid to replace this beast because I'm so used to this good SOT.
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I easily reach 10 hours sot + on voltageOS. I shared some screenshots of 11-12 hours sot on my 3 year old battery in telegram group with light-medium usage. My idle is dope aswell, most of the time lower then 1% (ext4, voltage2.1, bitgapps, magisk delta).
I heard similar good from LOS20, Android 13 seem to be awesome in terms of background managment (im using 100+ apps).
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I easily reach 10 hours sot + on voltageOS. I shared some screenshots of 11-12 hours sot on my 3 year old battery in telegram group with light-medium usage. My idle is dope aswell, most of the time lower then 1% (ext4, voltage2.1, bitgapps, magisk delta).
I heard similar good from LOS20, Android 13 seem to be awesome in terms of background managment (im using 100+ apps).
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Did you perhaps have a chance to use EvoX as well? If so, how would you say it compares to VoltageOS?
I've heard only good things about VoltageOS. Are there any issues with it, stuff that does not work?
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Did you perhaps have a chance to use EvoX as well? If so, how would you say it compares to VoltageOS?
I've heard only good things about VoltageOS. Are there any issues with it, stuff that does not work?
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I have used EvoX 2 years back for a while, cant compare it unfortunatly and i wont flash another rom until i buy a new phone probably.
Well unluckily there are a few issues on Vos2.1:
- Udfps unlock sometimes does not work. (there seem to be the same issue on Los20 and according Los20 dev it seem to be a issue with android system)
- nightmode, reading mode, extra dim does not work together with dc dimming after unlock. (according Voltageos dev this is a common issue on most aosp roms)
- from time to time i notice scrolling laggs and rarely in games aswell. (could be related to kernel, but not sure)
- expandable screenshot ?long screenshot? slightly buggy ? (on miui it have been working better)
- on twitter i have noticed some issues like i couldnt go back to overview after reenter app, on discord after editing i have noticed scrolling does not work anymore. (but those issues can be caused by the app / restricted battery setting / android system idk)
Thats all i have noticed so far, more or less (if i have not missed anything). Anyway im very happy and think its a really great rom. The only thing which is bothering me the most is udfps unlock inconsistency and for night mode + dc dimming i am using twilight. (those things have been working better on miui, not gonna lie. )
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I have used EvoX 2 years back for a while, cant compare it unfortunatly and i wont flash another rom until i buy a new phone probably.
Well unluckily there are a few issues on Vos2.1:
- Udfps unlock sometimes does not work. (there seem to be the same issue on Los20 and according Los20 dev it seem to be a issue with android system)
- nightmode, reading mode, extra dim does not work together with dc dimming after unlock. (according Voltageos dev this is a common issue on most aosp roms)
- from time to time i notice scrolling laggs and rarely in games aswell.
- expandable screenshot ?long screenshot? slightly buggy ? (on miui it have been working better)
- on twitter i have noticed some issues like i couldnt go back to overview after reenter app, on discord after editing i have noticed scrolling does not work anymore. (but those issues can be caused by the app / restricted battery setting / android system)
Thats all i have noticed so far, more or less (if i have not missed anything). Anyway im very happy and think its a really great rom. The only thing which is bothering me the most is udfps unlock inconsistency and for night mode + dc dimming i am using twilight.
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Thanks for the thorough review, friend!
I might just give it a go one day. I must admit that MiuiTN also looks tempting since I like the classic Miui style, but I can't find much reliable information on that rom.
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Thanks for the thorough review, friend!
I might just give it a go one day. I must admit that MiuiTN also looks tempting since I like the classic Miui style, but I can't find much reliable information on that rom.
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I have not been using miuitn for a long time, so i unluckily cant tell you more about that. Miui13 ports for sure arent as stable as official releases / xiaomi eu roms.
So it might depends on your personal usage, you might not get around trying it out at your own.
You can also join the telegram group, there you can follow discussions about miuitn releases. People this days most likely use telegram. (which i personally dislike over xda, but what ever.)