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What really is up with Android phone and their battery life. This been bugging me for like forever and its 4:00 AM and i have to post.
Like my sister had s7 edge and just the general messenger apps IG, WhatsApp, telegram & Weechat. Rest are game for toddler. But all the time the phone been with her, her average SOT is like four hours and the BATTERY KEEPS ON DRAINING on Wi-Fi or Data and NEVER flats out. It only does when in airplane mode. Before you guys days uninstall the games, in the battery usage graph same with GSAMbattery, Android system is like up all the time. So it has to do with Android OS.
is Android really just like this? Do iPhones person better?
I have EXACTLY the same issue with my nexus 6 rooted. When my wifi is up, none stop drain and BBS doesn't show any unusual activity.
What going on guys?

y300owner said:
What really is up with Android phone and their battery life. This been bugging me for like forever and its 4:00 AM and i have to post.
Like my sister had s7 edge and just the general messenger apps IG, WhatsApp, telegram & Weechat. Rest are game for toddler. But all the time the phone been with her, her average SOT is like four hours and the BATTERY KEEPS ON DRAINING on Wi-Fi or Data and NEVER flats out. It only does when in airplane mode. Before you guys days uninstall the games, in the battery usage graph same with GSAMbattery, Android system is like up all the time. So it has to do with Android OS.
is Android really just like this? Do iPhones person better?
I have EXACTLY the same issue with my nexus 6 rooted. When my wifi is up, none stop drain and BBS doesn't show any unusual activity.
What going on guys?
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With 4 hours screen on time that is about what you can expect. Mainly when using things like weechat which is notorious for uploading all it data over and over again to its servers in China. Then you have whatsapp which is done by facebook which are known for some of the worst coded apps for battery drain in the market.
Your biggest issue is the screen on time. $ hours is a bit ruff on a device. As the screen is the biggest thing to take up battery. Unlike the iphone which uses a less intense screen due to its lower quality res.

y300owner said:
What really is up with Android phone and their battery life. This been bugging me for like forever and its 4:00 AM and i have to post.
Like my sister had s7 edge and just the general messenger apps IG, WhatsApp, telegram & Weechat. Rest are game for toddler. But all the time the phone been with her, her average SOT is like four hours and the BATTERY KEEPS ON DRAINING on Wi-Fi or Data and NEVER flats out. It only does when in airplane mode. Before you guys days uninstall the games, in the battery usage graph same with GSAMbattery, Android system is like up all the time. So it has to do with Android OS.
is Android really just like this? Do iPhones person better?
I have EXACTLY the same issue with my nexus 6 rooted. When my wifi is up, none stop drain and BBS doesn't show any unusual activity.
What going on guys?
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Bro, you should use an iPhone and see! It's much worse than Android. iPhone have less size batteries and you can hardly get through the entire day with one charge according to your usage. Although apple's implementation of background apps optimization is excellent, but still the battery life is less due to small batteries. I feel android is much better in terms of battery.

jayadev01 said:
Bro, you should use an iPhone and see! It's much worse than Android. iPhone have less size batteries and you can hardly get through the entire day with one charge according to your usage. Although apple's implementation of background apps optimization is excellent, but still the battery life is less due to small batteries. I feel android is much better in terms of battery.
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Totally agree.
You can add that android is still an open system which allows you to hard modify the system, apps behavior, etc.. So you can set your device especially for your daily use.
For example, the way I set my 2yo-phone gives me 8 to 10 hours SOT, which is faaaar from any Apple devices autonomy..
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As the screen is the biggest thing to take up battery.
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It's not especially the screen which tumble down the battery energy, not as much as touching it. Which will litterally eat your battery life..
So my question is, can the voice detection+voice commands be less energy-consuming than the touch-sensitive commands ? (while keeping an active detection)

My 1.5 year old nexus 6 on stock april rom 7.1.1 nonrooted has only 2-2.5 hour sot
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indreshpatel88 said:
My 1.5 year old nexus 6 on stock april rom 7.1.1 nonrooted has only 2-2.5 hour sot
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Bro, its time you pull up your socks. Root your phone and enjoy a whole lot of new features and performance. Our's is one of the best development on xda and you have plenty of options to choose from. All The Best. Hope to see you in the threads around!'

jayadev01 said:
Bro, its time you pull up your socks. Root your phone and enjoy a whole lot of new features and performance. Our's is one of the best development on xda and you have plenty of options to choose from. All The Best. Hope to see you in the threads around!'
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That has nothing to do with it. I get about the same on my device. Running custom rom.
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mesco38 said:
Totally agree.
You can add that android is still an open system which allows you to hard modify the system, apps behavior, etc.. So you can set your device especially for your daily use.
For example, the way I set my 2yo-phone gives me 8 to 10 hours SOT, which is faaaar from any Apple devices autonomy..
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It's not especially the screen which tumble down the battery energy, not as much as touching it. Which will litterally eat your battery life..
So my question is, can the voice detection+voice commands be less energy-consuming than the touch-sensitive commands ? (while keeping an active detection)
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No it's really mostly just the screen being on. You can test this by setting the device screen to never time out and let it sit. You will notice that it kills the battery.

zelendel said:
With 4 hours screen on time that is about what you can expect. Mainly when using things like weechat which is notorious for uploading all it data over and over again to its servers in China. Then you have whatsapp which is done by facebook which are known for some of the worst coded apps for battery drain in the market.
Your biggest issue is the screen on time. $ hours is a bit ruff on a device. As the screen is the biggest thing to take up battery. Unlike the iphone which uses a less intense screen due to its lower quality res.
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If Weechat and Whatsapp were responsible for the drains, why don't they show up on battery usage as top drainers?
It's always Android System

jayadev01 said:
Bro, you should use an iPhone and see! It's much worse than Android. iPhone have less size batteries and you can hardly get through the entire day with one charge according to your usage. Although apple's implementation of background apps optimization is excellent, but still the battery life is less due to small batteries. I feel android is much better in terms of battery.
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Never used Iphone but assumed they have good battery life because of endless praise it gets which is getting old.

y300owner said:
If Weechat and Whatsapp were responsible for the drains, why don't they show up on battery usage as top drainers?
It's always Android System
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That is generic which means apps system api or systems the app uses. Like say the LG tones app. It uses the system BT api and if it drains the battery then all you see is BT at the top.

After years of trial with all sorts of applications to kill apps, battery /juice saves, my ultimate solution on Samsung alpha, 1800amph only battery is conjuction of Greenify, follow up with SD Maid. Alternate day.
Excellent results. I'm rooted.

zelendel said:
That has nothing to do with it. I get about the same on my device. Running custom rom.
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I'd say that you either have a battery that is past it's useful life, or you have some serious wakelocks going on. 2-2.5 hours SOT is awful. I bought my device used 9 months ago and can easily average 6-8 hours SOT over the course of 48 hours on battery (on stock 7.0 unrooted). I'm only now seeing a lower SOT with this current update to Google Play Services. And even now I still get 5-6 hours SOT in 48 hours.

cameraddict said:
I'd say that you either have a battery that is past it's useful life, or you have some serious wakelocks going on. 2-2.5 hours SOT is awful. I bought my device used 9 months ago and can easily average 6-8 hours SOT over the course of 48 hours on battery (on stock 7.0 unrooted). I'm only now seeing a lower SOT with this current update to Google Play Services. And even now I still get 5-6 hours SOT in 48 hours.
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I know the reason for my bad battery life. It's my signal. Signal here is spotty and if you leave town you lose signal all together. So my device spends most of the day looking for a stronger signal. SOT really doesn't mean much to me.

zelendel said:
I know the reason for my bad battery life. It's my signal. Signal here is spotty and if you leave town you lose signal all together. So my device spends most of the day looking for a stronger signal. SOT really doesn't mean much to me.
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Ah yeah, well there is that as well. Have you tried turning off LTE and preffering 3G? I've found that helps in some fringe areas.

cameraddict said:
Ah yeah, well there is that as well. Have you tried turning off LTE and preffering 3G? I've found that helps in some fringe areas.
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Yeah I normally keep late off. It doesn't help really. Signal is just too spotty. You can bounce between 2g,3g and lte in 5 min and never move. Then you have the times when the military blocks all GPS and unless you heard the announcement and turned GPS off that would also kill your battery. Then like I said once you leave town you have no signal for hundreds of miles.

Can somebody explain this?

terry_mccann said:
Can somebody explain this?
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We would need more info before we could really explain it. For starters though it looks like bluetooth is sucking the life out of your battery. Do you have something connected to it currently?
As far as my screen on time goes, im on the pixel rom with no addons and i get 4 hours screen on time

terry_mccann said:
Can somebody explain this?
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Settings -> Google -> instant tethering
Turn everything off.

cameraddict said:
I'd say that you either have a battery that is past it's useful life, or you have some serious wakelocks going on. 2-2.5 hours SOT is awful. I bought my device used 9 months ago and can easily average 6-8 hours SOT over the course of 48 hours on battery (on stock 7.0 unrooted). I'm only now seeing a lower SOT with this current update to Google Play Services. And even now I still get 5-6 hours SOT in 48 hours.
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How is 6-8 hours sot possible over 48 hours? I've tried different kernels, lineage/CyanogenMod, Pure Nexus, greenify, and even tried down clocking the CPU to 1.2 GHz or less at all times (shockingly, in normal use I couldn't tell the difference lol). Never got that much screen on time. I'm not even sure airplane mode would do that. My best was around 45 hours, but with about 3 hours of screen on time. And that was with the phone being less than 3 months old.
Currently I'm on stock Android, and getting 20 hours at best with 3 hours sot. At this point, I will say my battery is shot since it is a year old. But I'd love to see your settings and see if I could get close.

nascar48 said:
How is 6-8 hours sot possible over 48 hours? I've tried different kernels, lineage/CyanogenMod, Pure Nexus, greenify, and even tried down clocking the CPU to 1.2 GHz or less at all times (shockingly, in normal use I couldn't tell the difference lol). Never got that much screen on time. I'm not even sure airplane mode would do that. My best was around 45 hours, but with about 3 hours of screen on time. And that was with the phone being less than 3 months old.
Currently I'm on stock Android, and getting 20 hours at best with 3 hours sot. At this point, I will say my battery is shot since it is a year old. But I'd love to see your settings and see if I could get close.
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Here are screenshots of my battery use from March. 3 days with 6.5 hours SOT. I keep my screen at a relative 20% or so (lower at night). I have very strong signal (major city) And I use wifi about 65-70% of the time. I also actively moderate my screen touches (yes, they do indeed matter). I turn off NFC and I don't use BT. I also actively purge misbehaving apps (I refuse to install some, like Facebook) Other than this, I can't really say. Perhaps, I just lucked out and got a cherry of a system (with the exception of my headphone jack not working with mics...Grrr... and my camera's image stabilization Causing blur at certain shutter speeds)

Sot (for who has bad one)

Hi guys
I'm not discovering the fire but I want to make a little contribution for those who has bad sot (I was really annoying for me because I can understand the upsets users ones), this was my discoveries:
The first one and most important:
It seems that the phone is programmed for a certain time of use, I mean it has a maximum time for sot: 6 - 9 hrs so you have to use that time to spend it on screen time because the phone also uses the battery for other stuffs. So if you pretend to get 6 hours or more in more than 1 day you will become mad and taking the phone and throwing it throw the window.
The second one:
Continuing with the last point doesn't matter if you try to save battery reducing resolution or stuffs like that. I use every day performance mode at max resolution and sound quality. The important thing is manage very well the brightness so disable the 10%extra from performance mode. Actually I could reach 6 hours at 1% with a intensive use with wify, data, gps and stuff like that.
The third one:
It is unuseful try to disable things and apps from the phone, they are not important on battery usage except for brightness and (at least for me) AOD. This one drains my battery and I really don't know what to do with this so it is disabled for me.
And the fourth and last one:
It seems that the battery needs a intensive usage in order to get it max potential. Some days ago I use the phone heavily charging it with the dex dock and using the interface and I noticed before that the battery expand it life.
Well, I'm testing if a dark theme is useful or not in order to get better sot but mean while I'm pretty happy with the battery life (40 days of usage); at beginning was very upset with this.
Hope to be useful for anyone.
Cheers and my best regards and thankfulness for the help of the community.

Thanks man

What's this 10% extra thing you are referring to?
My wife's default Note 8 gets approximately 5.5 hours SOT mine 6.5 to 8.5 SOT. She uses Facebook and the trash associated with it l and light themes. I don't,.also location on mine is gps only.
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He is talking about the 10% increase of brightness beyond normal in entertainment mode

Limeybastard said:
What's this 10% extra thing you are referring to?
My wife's default Note 8 gets approximately 5.5 hours SOT mine 6.5 to 8.5 SOT. She uses Facebook and the trash associated with it l and light themes. I don't,.also location on mine is gps only.
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Delete her fb app and use xda light version of fb. Regular offical app reminds me of my ex.

Nick216ohio said:
Delete her fb app and use xda light version of fb. Regular offical app reminds me of my ex.
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I advised her, but she doesn't care about getting more sot. That's all she uses the phone for I think, Facebook and Candy crush. Both of which are rubbish.
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Question Battery Life, expectations?

Hi all,
As you know, I got this device a couple of weeks ago as a upgrade (birthday pressie).... and on the whole, I am might impressed with it. Compared to previous phones, this is awesome....
However, one odd thing I am experiencing... is battery life? Whilst I read reports of this device and the other I was looking at, Note 10 5G. Both had 5000mah batteries, and reviews RAVED about how good battery life is in them. Some even saying it can be used as a Battery Bank to charge other peoples phone.
However in actual use of the phone, I'm afraid to use it... for merely tapping a few icons, browsing web and running/opening camera... I literally am watching the percentages drain... I thought this thing would be rock solid, and can generally browse/mess around and the battery will slowly decrease...?
Don't get me wrong, if I don't touch it and leave it in standby it will claim to last at least a couple of days... or that said, running it as SatNav and not touching the screen on a 30min drive, it didn't drain the battery at all and stayed at 100% (which did surprise me).
But to me, what appears as light use, tapping icons and surfing around see's it draining fairly quickly. I dread to think if I was playing a high end game, it will prolly be gone in 5 mins.... Good job I don't do games... lol
Cheers, Lister

Morning Lister .. ya got your paddling pool ready for tomorrow lol
Mines been quite doing the same playing with gcam ( I haven't uploaded the XML yet , reming me to do it later ).
I have noticed the battery draining quicker when the screens set to 90mhz , as I've read elsewhere that seems quite normal as the phone has to refresh the screen faster than it would on 60 . Signal strength can be detrimental too , a bad signal means the phone tries harder to pull it in and uses more battery in the process .
When I've finally got everything set up I'll see how long I can get on a charge , still got to copy me 3 stooges collection on to it , all 65gb of it

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I have noticed the battery draining quicker when the screens set to 120mhz
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I think this phone has 90hz refresh rate, not 120mhz. Maybe u wrote it by mistake.

Hi The Mero,
Oh don't, I am not a sun lover at the best of times and these last few days/week's been killing me... lol.
I am, as we speak, practicing my Snow Dance !!! ;-) LOL
Yeah, seems odd that a camera can zap that much battery. I get it has to do a couple of things, active viewfinder, take the pic and then use processing power to render the output. But after reading all the rave reviews, this battery will last you into the next pandemic and all that... It to me, just seems to drain a little too quickly for my liking. I was expecting to get some fun time, without watching the battery drain down...
I think this screen can only go to 90mhz, but that said... I even have my set to the standard 60mhz. I not really played around with it, but it seems quick enough for me at 60mhz and every bit of battery helps. Like being in a heatwave and keeping ya aircon off, whilst sitting at the traffic lights with windows open... Gotta save that fuel/battery... ;-) lol
I did look at battery drain, and Mobile Standby did seem high, which is odd as its never been an issue with my older phones in same location. I'll keep an eye on that though, cheers....
Lister

Gun Striker said:
I think this phone has 90hz refresh rate, not 120mhz. Maybe u wrote it by mistake.
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Sorry I was thing of me old x3 NFC striker lol . Thanks for correcting me

Hi The Mero,
I just noticed this thread pop up, which is similar thing... It seems a few are getting the high Cell Standby for no reason at all... Although they appear to be on the updated version...??
"Cell Standby" battery drain on latest MIUI Global 13.0.12?
Hi, everyone. I bought a Redmi Note 11 Global a few days back and while setting it up, I was amazed at the battery life. It was at 56% when I opened it up, and throughout the entire setup process and after around 5 or 6 hours of screen on time, I...
forum.xda-developers.com
That said, I do have Calls over WiFi enabled, as it's the first time i've owned a phone that supports and is now available on my plan (PAYG lol). So I enabled it, just to try it out... lol
But apparently, this can be a zapper and cause the Cell Standby issue. Might try disabling it, and see if Battery Life improves....
Cheers, Lister

I'm on PAYG too , I turn off internet calling ( volte ) I had an issue on the X3 where you could hear the other person but they couldn't hear you . Some said it was a flaky mic and some said volte ( another name for it ) . Anyways I knocked it off and calls were fine after that . So if you start getting the same issue give that a try . Plus battery issues could be down to the CPU not behaving . Russian forum had some with the CPU stuck at full throttle while others were stuck at lowest speed . All using different miui versions or custom ROMs , this is getting worse every time we read about it

This phone is in need of a custom kernel. I think the default CPU/GPU governor is not properly optimised. We don't want the CPU to fire up all its cores and constantly hit 2.4Ghz while playing candy crush.
Also, MIUI 13 is so restrictive and bland. We are losing controls and features with each new update.
This amazing hardware needs a divorce from its retarded software.

some interesting reading .. miui updates
MIUI 13 Beta MI-V13.0.2 for Redmi Note 11 has been suspended due to a Google Play Server error

Obi_Wlan said:
This phone is in need of a custom kernel. I think the default CPU/GPU governor is not properly optimised. We don't want the CPU to fire up all its cores and constantly hit 2.4Ghz while playing candy crush.
Also, MIUI 13 is so restrictive and bland. We are losing controls and features with each new update.
This amazing hardware needs a divorce from its retarded software.
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In my case, the amazing hardware broke up with its retarded software and is currently married to this chick named Pixel Experience. The experience is way way smooth and is something we and the hardware totally deserves. Though yes we really need a custom kernel, I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now

Alex Zander-kun said:
In my case, the amazing hardware broke up with its retarded software and is currently married to this chick named Pixel Experience. The experience is way way smooth and is something we and the hardware totally deserves. Though yes we really need a custom kernel, I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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Same here, unlocked bootloader and currently on Evolution X. Though all google apps and services are debloated so basically vanilla. I get 10 hrs screen on time with about 40 hrs standby

Hi All,
The battery on this device is really really shocking.... as in shockingly bad !!!
When I read about 5000mah ( basically double anything I've had prior ) and how good the reviews for battery life were on these devices. I had high hopes, I thought Id be able to tap away, causally wasting hours watching pointless YouTube and whatnot...
However here I am, re-arranging icons.... Configuring Applications (TruePhone and it's GAZZILION options), and watching the percentages just drop off, one by one by one.... I bet if I put a chocolate egg outside in this heatwave, it will melt at a slower rate than the battery drains...
Admittedly, I do have a few Apps on it... but no more than when I look at other peoples phones and it's not like I am putting heavy/tasking apps on. No gaming apps or anything like that... And to watch it go from 100 to 70 in what I think is a short time, is somewhat depressing...
I'll have to charge the ole 5000mah phone up and carry a couple 20,000mah at this rate... lol.
I've even de-bloated some of the system Apps in background... I may treat it to another wipe/reset and test it with barely any load and see what happens...
Cheers, Lister

The Mero said:
I had an issue on the X3 where you could hear the other person but they couldn't hear you . Some said it was a flaky mic and some said volte ( another name for it )
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I've had that issue on my Note 5 as well, and apparently I was not alone and it was in fact an issue that was introduced with Android 10. Turning off VoLTE did work for me, but that of course entailed a significantly worse call quality. I ended up switching to a different carrier and the problem went away. Sucks to see that the issue can still arise on current handsets.

I had a note 5 too , I can't remember if it did it or not, but I switched to a Moto g7 power and it did it on there too . I think your right about the network. I'm on 3 in the UK and never thought of the network being at fault , cheers for that

Alex Zander-kun said:
I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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Because they don't want to and there's not really anything people can do about it.

Schmuppes said:
Because they don't want to and there's not really anything people can do about it.
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Under GNU General Public License (GPL) it is mandatory to release a device's kernel source code if it is a modified version of the Linux kernel.

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Under GNU General Public License (GPL) it is mandatory to release a device's kernel source code if it is a modified version of the Linux kernel.
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I know that they legally have to. But which user will sue them if they don't is what I'm saying.

General Oos 13

Hi there 10 pro users
I don't know if you all noticed but i started with oos 13 a couple weeks ago without root i had it on QHD 120hz it was pretty good to use battery latest very long lasting and always 8 hours sot so that was pretty good to have until i started to root it again wanted to check out somethings but then the horror started couldn't reach no more the 8 hours sot it was reduced to 4 hours even heavy drains sometimes drops in Hz to 1 found out that it is found in there kernel source too they are trying to prevent root or this device needs a hell of a kernel dev who can fix all this or enjoy the device how you like and how you want too use it. And to be honest my opinion don't root it you will have more fun with your device since this is dead in development
I have posted some pictures below the one with 8 hours sot was before root the rest of the pictures after root

Hi, but there is a difference...
Your screen time is not the same, so the comparison is not valid.

I'm rooted and have not noticed a drain on the battery... I have heavily debloated though.
My apps list in battery doesn't show anything anymore but this is one charge.
I didn't just leave it with the screen on either lol. But have been reading a lot on chrome.

dladz said:
I'm rooted and have not noticed a drain on the battery... I have heavily debloated though.
My apps list in battery doesn't show anything anymore but this is one charge.
I didn't just leave it with the screen on either lol. But have been reading a lot on chrome.
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That's oos 12 and seems that you don't even use the device this is not your daily driver

zopostyle said:
Hi, but there is a difference...
Your screen time is not the same, so the comparison is not valid.
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Are you sure the one of 8 hours was the first time I had oos 13 installed even wiped it set it up with something's a few apps what ik using but after I wanted it too root found out that they want too prevent it so my CPU where locked and this only happens in oos 13 but in oos 12 I didn't had that much problems with root but still it's a heavy drainer device

HessNL said:
That's oos 12 and seems that you don't even use the device this is not your daily driver
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?? What are you talking about ??
OnePlus 10 pro? Is my daily phone...
I've had oos 13 installed and went back, I have all the relevant information to advise..
No idea what you're talking about lad

dladz said:
?? What are you talking about ??
OnePlus 10 pro? Is my daily phone...
I've had oos 13 installed and went back, I have all the relevant information to advise..
No idea what you're talking about lad, guessing you don't either.
There's always one plonker in every forum.
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Well you switched back so you know what I'm talking about but what did you debloated and what did you use to downgrade ?
But for now my battery is like this I have franco kernel manager running without root and setup with adb commands I have a drain right now of 0.90 but it doesn't seems to add up to my first 8 hours sot

HessNL said:
Well you switched back so you know what I'm talking about but what did you debloated and what did you use to downgrade ?
But for now my battery is like this I have franco kernel manager running without root and setup with adb commands I have a drain right now of 0.90 but it doesn't seems to add up to my first 8 hours sot
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It's subjective based on user, location, network, apps etc..
I've already advised in other threads what I've done in detail.
Rolling back AFAIK there is only one way and that's the rollback package found in the beta thread.
Debloat from the debloat thread.
I average 10 hours at least and I use my phone all day long 7am to midnight most days.

dladz said:
I average 10 hours at least and I use my phone all day long 7am to midnight most days.
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Same. I regularly only have to fully charge this device once a day. It'll last me easily from morning to night on a full charge with moderate use throughout the day. With added streaming / gaming on a lunch break, if I don't sometimes I can even get away with two work days (around 1.5 days) on a single charge.
The battery is definitely good, just need to use your system wisely, like with most tech. The fact that it charges to full in about 25 minutes is just gravy.

Prant said:
Same. I regularly only have to fully charge this device once a day. It'll last me easily from morning to night on a full charge with moderate use throughout the day. With added streaming / gaming on a lunch break, if I don't sometimes I can even get away with two work days (around 1.5 days) on a single charge.
The battery is definitely good, just need to use your system wisely, like with most tech. The fact that it charges to full in about 25 minutes is just gravy.
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Yea mines about 2 days ish.. if I'm on citra or an emulator then sure it'll be a lot less but gaming on lunch will still see me through the day.
Charging is insane on this phone, not 100% if it's good for the battery or not.
Thermals for me were higher on oos13 hence why I switched back, I do prefer the look and feel of 13 but it annoyed me to have extra heat during gaming etc.
Haven't tested C.21 yet, but have heard good things.

Hi, I don't agree with the fact that root is draining battery. I am on oos13 since the first day of stable build and now on C21, rooted with xposed and 4 modules running and didn't noticied any différence with and without root. Maybe loosing a bit with xposed but I still managed to get 11h of sot (wifi and a lot of reading) and average 6h on mobile data. Also the phone is debloated.
@dladz i used to charge my phone with old 20w op3 block (no need of full speed, and trying to save battery life) but the few times I used the 80w I didnt noticied more heat on C21 than on oos12. But I don't use m'y phone while charging and always put it in airplane mode. If you want I can try some scénarios while charging and send you températures to compare

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Hi, I don't agree with the fact that root is draining battery. I am on oos13 since the first day of stable build and now on C21, rooted with xposed and 4 modules running and didn't noticied any différence with and without root. Maybe loosing a bit with xposed but I still managed to get 11h of sot (wifi and a lot of reading) and average 6h on mobile data. Also the phone is debloated.
@dladz i used to charge my phone with old 20w op3 block (no need of full speed, and trying to save battery life) but the few times I used the 80w I didnt noticied more heat on C21 than on oos12. But I don't use m'y phone while charging and always put it in airplane mode. If you want I can try some scénarios while charging and send you températures to compare
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Just run a heavy emulator like Aetherx2 running lets say Tekken Tag Tournament..
I noticed C20 throttle but not A17.
I haven't noticed c,21 as I've never installed it... Fair bit of work to get back to how I like my phone.... Plus a few mods that don't work on 13 yet

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Just run a heavy emulator like Aetherx2 running lets say Tekken Tag Tournament..
I noticed C20 throttle but not A17.
I haven't noticed c,21 as I've never installed it... Fair bit of work to get back to how I like my phone.... Plus a few mods that don't work on 13 yet
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Ok i will try it. By throtteling you are just looking if the phone start lagging or testing with an app like '' cpu throtteling test ''?
I know you were talking of c20, I was saying that just for you to have some data/feedback of c21 si you don't have to try it yourself, if I can help. But yes if some of your mods don't work on 13 I understand why you are staying with 12

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Ok i will try it. By throtteling you are just looking if the phone start lagging or testing with an app like '' cpu throtteling test ''?
I know you were talking of c20, I was saying that just for you to have some data/feedback of c21 si you don't have to try it yourself, if I can help. But yes if some of your mods don't work on 13 I understand why you are staying with 12
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Ah cheers man.. You'd don't have to do that, but I appreciate it..
Then again it'd be nice for you to get Aetherx2 running.. Reckon you'll like it..
Throttling as in the device getting hot then cycling down the CPU to save it from overheating.
I noticed the dips in performance plus the heat was substantially higher on 13 than 12 just from memory.
Maybe some other heavy games could emulate this test too

Best miui 13 port for redmi k20 pro ?

Im still running miui 10 and beside sensor issues in the worst moments and batteryperformance decreased (8-10h sot), im pretty happy.
The release of miui 14 looks pretty interesting, same like miui 13. Unluckily xiaomi will never bring any of those and therefore might xiaomi.eu never aswell.
Meanwhile is there any miui13 port which is super stable and perfectly working (i heart of ghost, miui tn, aphixrog). Im looking for something to flash, forget and never regret (for the next full year).
How is the battery performance ?
I would prefer stock vendor & kernal, no custom "magic" from few days experience dev .
Or should i forget about the "upgrade", stay on miui10 and investigate the drain issues ?

I've tried Abhix.
Thread '[Q] Has anyone tried miui custom roms MIUI SR or AbhiX ROG Edition (both are ports of MIUI 13 on Android 12)' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...h-are-ports-of-miui-13-on-android-12.4530039/
How is it possible that you have 8-10h SOT in 2+-year old phone? 5h SOT is pretty good, 6 is very good.

habeck.colibretto said:
How is it possible that you have 8-10h SOT in 2+-year old phone? 5h SOT is pretty good, 6 is very good.
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Depends on the usage, but everything on my phone is adjusted to consume as less as possible (but i havent done wild stuff like lower clockspeed, kernal, voltage... only debloat, disabled everything which could be battery intensive in settings, using leandroid + greenify), meanwhile i range between 7-9 hours i guess, when i fresh installed it i ranged between 8-11 hours.
My battery should still have efficiency around 85-90%, im trying to hold battery between 15-85%.
To answer your question. I personally think everything after miui 10 is bad.
I may gonna try MiuiTN, according telegram groups that seem to be the best miui 13 port.

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Depends on the usage, but everything on my phone is adjusted to consume as less as possible (but i havent done wild stuff like lower clockspeed, kernal, voltage... only debloat, disabled everything which could be battery intensive in settings, using leandroid + greenify), meanwhile i range between 7-9 hours i guess, when i fresh installed it i ranged between 8-11 hours.
My battery should still have efficiency around 85-90%, im trying to hold battery between 15-85%.
To answer your question. I personally think everything after miui 10 is bad.
I may gonna try MiuiTN, according telegram groups that seem to be the best miui 13 port.
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8-11h SOT? Picrel or didin't happen.
Which version are you going to test (https://miuitn.vercel.app/Rom_MiuiTN/Raphael/) and is there any info how to install (recovery version, filesystem, etc.)? And the most important - how safe is this?

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8-11h SOT? Picrel or didin't happen.
Which version are you going to test (https://miuitn.vercel.app/Rom_MiuiTN/Raphael/) and is there any info how to install (recovery version, filesystem, etc.)? And the most important - how safe is this?
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I dont have specific plans so far, because i didnt got enough time, maybe in christmas vacation.
Probably 1.8 and i read once that you need a specific recovery (unluckily cant tell you which).

Danny94 said:
I dont have specific plans so far, because i didnt got enough time, maybe in christmas vacation.
Probably 1.8 and i read once that you need a specific recovery (unluckily cant tell you which).
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I checked miuitn 13 A12 but it doesn't have all languages (there is English and a few Asian ones only). Android security updates are from June, while RaphaelOS (also Miui 13 - 22.8.25, A12) are from August 1st. In general, I have the impression that all these roms are very similar. On stock kernel geekbench is 690 and 2675. On Steroid is 700 and 2747. But AbhiX feels more snappy.
Both roms (AbhiX as well) are without encription so you need standard recovery (I have latest official OrangeFox).

habeck.colibretto said:
I checked miuitn 13 A12 but it doesn't have all languages (there is English and a few Asian ones only). Android security updates are from June, while RaphaelOS (also Miui 13 - 22.8.25, A12) are from August 1st. In general, I have the impression that all these roms are very similar. On stock kernel geekbench is 690 and 2675. On Steroid is 700 and 2747. But AbhiX feels more snappy.
Both roms (AbhiX as well) are without encription so you need standard recovery (I have latest official OrangeFox).
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If there is a workaround to get native language in apps for me personally its not a big problem if i got english in os.
I havent tested a single miui 13 port so far, so i cant bring useful informations to this conversation unluckily.
According telegram groups MiuiTN seem to be the most stable, balanced rom and others are "kanged", but well yeah people talk on telegram...
I unluckily wont have time to test all of them myself so i might follow your experience ;D and maybe some other guys come along this thread and share their experience aswell.
Worst case i stay another year on miui 10 and get Rog Phone 6 after... Im just hell of annoyed my sensors do not work how they should on miui10 sometimes.

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If there is a workaround to get native language in apps for me personally its not a big problem if i got english in os.
I havent tested a single miui 13 port so far, so i cant bring useful informations to this conversation unluckily.
According telegram groups MiuiTN seem to be the most stable, balanced rom and others are "kanged", but well yeah people talk on telegram...
I unluckily wont have time to test all of them myself so i might follow your experience ;D and maybe some other guys come along this thread and share their experience aswell.
Worst case i stay another year on miui 10 and get Rog Phone 6 after... Im just hell of annoyed my sensors do not work how they should on miui10 sometimes.
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About Rog Phone 6 - it bends -
About native language - you can try https://github.com/BlueCat300/XposedAppSettings/releases

Dont go for RaphaelOs.
Better go for Miui12 or MiuiTn.
Im on VoltageOs 2.1 which is awesome, i heard also good stuff from Los20.

habeck.colibretto said:
8-11h SOT? Picrel or didin't happen.
Which version are you going to test (https://miuitn.vercel.app/Rom_MiuiTN/Raphael/) and is there any info how to install (recovery version, filesystem, etc.)? And the most important - how safe is this?
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BTW I'm using Evolution X with stock settings at 72Hz with no battery saving tweaks. I bought the phone more than 3 years ago and use it daily. Afraid to replace this beast because I'm so used to this good SOT.

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BTW I'm using Evolution X with stock settings at 72Hz with no battery saving tweaks. I bought the phone more than 3 years ago and use it daily. Afraid to replace this beast because I'm so used to this good SOT.
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I easily reach 10 hours sot + on voltageOS. I shared some screenshots of 11-12 hours sot on my 3 year old battery in telegram group with light-medium usage. My idle is dope aswell, most of the time lower then 1% (ext4, voltage2.1, bitgapps, magisk delta).
I heard similar good from LOS20, Android 13 seem to be awesome in terms of background managment (im using 100+ apps).

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I easily reach 10 hours sot + on voltageOS. I shared some screenshots of 11-12 hours sot on my 3 year old battery in telegram group with light-medium usage. My idle is dope aswell, most of the time lower then 1% (ext4, voltage2.1, bitgapps, magisk delta).
I heard similar good from LOS20, Android 13 seem to be awesome in terms of background managment (im using 100+ apps).
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Did you perhaps have a chance to use EvoX as well? If so, how would you say it compares to VoltageOS?
I've heard only good things about VoltageOS. Are there any issues with it, stuff that does not work?

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Did you perhaps have a chance to use EvoX as well? If so, how would you say it compares to VoltageOS?
I've heard only good things about VoltageOS. Are there any issues with it, stuff that does not work?
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I have used EvoX 2 years back for a while, cant compare it unfortunatly and i wont flash another rom until i buy a new phone probably.
Well unluckily there are a few issues on Vos2.1:
- Udfps unlock sometimes does not work. (there seem to be the same issue on Los20 and according Los20 dev it seem to be a issue with android system)
- nightmode, reading mode, extra dim does not work together with dc dimming after unlock. (according Voltageos dev this is a common issue on most aosp roms)
- from time to time i notice scrolling laggs and rarely in games aswell. (could be related to kernel, but not sure)
- expandable screenshot ?long screenshot? slightly buggy ? (on miui it have been working better)
- on twitter i have noticed some issues like i couldnt go back to overview after reenter app, on discord after editing i have noticed scrolling does not work anymore. (but those issues can be caused by the app / restricted battery setting / android system idk)
Thats all i have noticed so far, more or less (if i have not missed anything). Anyway im very happy and think its a really great rom. The only thing which is bothering me the most is udfps unlock inconsistency and for night mode + dc dimming i am using twilight. (those things have been working better on miui, not gonna lie. )

Danny94 said:
I have used EvoX 2 years back for a while, cant compare it unfortunatly and i wont flash another rom until i buy a new phone probably.
Well unluckily there are a few issues on Vos2.1:
- Udfps unlock sometimes does not work. (there seem to be the same issue on Los20 and according Los20 dev it seem to be a issue with android system)
- nightmode, reading mode, extra dim does not work together with dc dimming after unlock. (according Voltageos dev this is a common issue on most aosp roms)
- from time to time i notice scrolling laggs and rarely in games aswell.
- expandable screenshot ?long screenshot? slightly buggy ? (on miui it have been working better)
- on twitter i have noticed some issues like i couldnt go back to overview after reenter app, on discord after editing i have noticed scrolling does not work anymore. (but those issues can be caused by the app / restricted battery setting / android system)
Thats all i have noticed so far, more or less (if i have not missed anything). Anyway im very happy and think its a really great rom. The only thing which is bothering me the most is udfps unlock inconsistency and for night mode + dc dimming i am using twilight.
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Thanks for the thorough review, friend!
I might just give it a go one day. I must admit that MiuiTN also looks tempting since I like the classic Miui style, but I can't find much reliable information on that rom.

olat_dragneel said:
Thanks for the thorough review, friend!
I might just give it a go one day. I must admit that MiuiTN also looks tempting since I like the classic Miui style, but I can't find much reliable information on that rom.
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I have not been using miuitn for a long time, so i unluckily cant tell you more about that. Miui13 ports for sure arent as stable as official releases / xiaomi eu roms.
So it might depends on your personal usage, you might not get around trying it out at your own.
You can also join the telegram group, there you can follow discussions about miuitn releases. People this days most likely use telegram. (which i personally dislike over xda, but what ever.)