They'd be great to test setting up my system.
http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/technology/home-theater/dolby-digital-plus-download.html
The audio doesn't play at all on the CC though. Any reason for this? We know it supports DD+
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They'd be great to test setting up my system.
http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/technology/home-theater/dolby-digital-plus-download.html
The audio doesn't play at all on the CC though. Any reason for this? We know it supports DD+
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No we don't! The only multi-channel audio supported by the Chromecast is AAC:
Supported Media for Google Chromecast.
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No we don't! The only multi-channel audio supported by the Chromecast is AAC:
Supported Media for Google Chromecast.
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Not entirely true....The Device itself is actually quite capable of spitting out Dolby Surround and does so using the Netflix app.....
The Issue is two fold....
1 - Dolby requires you to license the codec to be able to use it...Netflix did, Google did not....
2 - Netflix operates outside the Google "PROTECTED" Sandbox that all CCast SDK built apps operate in.And that allows it to operate without the usual restrictions imposed by Google on the hardware.
So it's not the device that is incapable it is really how Google has implemented using it.
And I'm not even sure that a Developer could buy a Dolby License and get it to work inside that sandbox either....
Google needs to add this capability by buying a license for Dolby and incorporating it into the Sandbox so other apps can benefit from it as well.
And truth is I wouldn't expect something like that until CCast II is announced. Lets hope it is announced at the next Google I/O
Nice post @Asphyx ! Great info, didn't know that one. Would be great to get plex to play my DD+ movies
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Nice post @Asphyx ! Great info, didn't know that one. Would be great to get plex to play my DD+ movies
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I'm no audio freak but I do appreciate decent surround sound and, to these old ears at least, Plex does a great job of transcoding DTS, DTS-HD MA and DD (AC3 ) tracks to the AAC 5.1 that the Chromecast will accept.
I haven't tried personally but I wasn't aware Plex doesn't accept DD+ soundtracks for transcoding to the CC. Hopefully, Asphyx might enlighten us on this one too?
It accepts DD+ but will remix it to PCM, just like it does for DTS HD. Hell, Plex Home Theater doesn't even support DD+ at the moment.
I despise this downmix too. It plays at a much lower volume with half the dynamic range that DD+ has.
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It accepts DD+ but will remix it to PCM, just like it does for DTS HD. Hell, Plex Home Theater doesn't even support DD+ at the moment.
I despise this downmix too. It plays at a much lower volume with half the dynamic range that DD+ has.
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Ah, so is your quibble more that DD+ is a such big jump up from AC3 that you don't want to revert to that level rather than that Plex messes up?
I am not familiar with DD+ but that is certainly the case (even to my tired old ears) with the lossless HD formats. I never really expected the CC to be able to handle these and Plex does a decent enough job with the few DTS-HD MA tracks I have tried. I do have a wired route to my amp via XBMC and tend to use that for the few rips I have with HD sound but the CC has the huge advantage of being so much more convenient to access :laugh:.
I've always assumed DD+ was something from back in the HD-DVD days? Is it still used much? Where does it sit IYO in the great scheme of multi-channel audio formats: let's say PCM stereo=2 and lossless HD (DTS-HD Master and Dolby TrueHD)=9. Where do your ears rank AC3, DTS, DTS-HD, DD+,
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Ah, so is your quibble more that DD+ is a such big jump up from AC3 that you don't want to revert to that level rather than that Plex messes up?
I am not familiar with DD+ but that is certainly the case (even to my tired old ears) with the lossless HD formats. I never really expected the CC to be able to handle these and Plex does a decent enough job with the few DTS-HD MA tracks I have tried. I do have a wired route to my amp via XBMC and tend to use that for the few rips I have with HD sound but the CC has the huge advantage of being so much more convenient to access :laugh:.
I've always assumed DD+ was something from back in the HD-DVD days? Is it still used much? Where does it sit IYO in the great scheme of multi-channel audio formats: let's say PCM stereo=2 and lossless HD (DTS-HD Master and Dolby TrueHD)=9. Where do your ears rank AC3, DTS, DTS-HD, DD+,
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Yes, I am certain that AC3 is a big jump from any downmix.
When I play HD-DVD on Plex, it always starts with me increasing the volume about 20 db.. PCM has always been quite a loser in my eyes. DTS or DD has always been the winner. No matter what I am watching, it is always better to have at least one of these tracks. I am unsure of the difference between LPCM and PCM, but I believe it is the same thing in principal. The few disney movies I have with LPCM (Cars, Pirates of the Caribbean 1, 2 and 3) have a better soundtrack than what I hear when downmixed DD+ to PCM.
I can't really boast about my system, it's an 82" ISF and THX calibrated DLP, Pioneer amp, some awesome Inifity towers, Infinity Center and a super rich Velodyne subwoofer. Sounds awesome but, it's still what I'd call a budget system.. Waiting to get into a house I own for the McIntosh stuff
With respect to my system; Over the weekend, my son and I watched "The Amazing Spiderman 2" at theaters on an unfocused AMC Theaters projector. My system completely blew that theater away. Other than a couple effects in the surround channel, it wasn't candy to the ears like I expected it to be. Sony usually uses SDDS and not DD or DTS for theaters.
However, I digress, other than a heavy bass track, DTS has no advantages over DD. They both have splendid dynamic range.
PlexHT is going to get DD+ and other neat audio additions soon enough, but that's only for PlexHT as this thread describes.. So, I guess I am a little off topic and I am just rambling
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I'm no audio freak but I do appreciate decent surround sound and, to these old ears at least, Plex does a great job of transcoding DTS, DTS-HD MA and DD (AC3 ) tracks to the AAC 5.1 that the Chromecast will accept.
I haven't tried personally but I wasn't aware Plex doesn't accept DD+ soundtracks for transcoding to the CC. Hopefully, Asphyx might enlighten us on this one too?
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Plex will transcode DD+. DHT, AC3 and pretty much any codec FFMPEG is capable of reading...But it usually selects AAC as the target output which the CCast sends as a PCM or LPCM stream to the receiver.
However FFMPEG has had some issues with some versions where it would get the tracks in the wrong place leaving some with no Back or Center Channel. I think most of that has been corrected recently but not sure.
As for the Volume issues you usually lose some volume for the sake of safety and not going over level on a transcode/encode.
In analog to digital work environment there are usually Bars and Tone that is supposed to allow you to set levels properly and be sure that no audio will be too hot for digitization as no audio that follows should be higher than the tone itself...But it's only as good a system as the guy who made the Original.
None of that exists in a digital file to file conversion. So what happens is during the encode it does Audio Leveling to make the loudest audio be good and bases the master volume based on that top mark respectively. Action movies are the worst offenders due to the difference in dynamics from Spoken Word to Action sounds.
AAC when transcoded to properly should be just as good as the Dolby is...It's the same audio the only difference is it is decoded and distinct in AAC but encoded and requires decoding by a Dolby Decoder when it's DHT or DD+. Whichthe transcoder is doing for you when it creates AAC.
The key to good sound is to really analyze the source your transcoding and really tweak the transcoding settings to optimal...
Since in Plex the server is doing the analyzing and the Hardware and source varies so much they tend to stick to transcoder settings that are SAFE FOR ALL as opposed to what is the best for any particular file.
In a situation ike Plex you really should do manual transcoding for each file before you add it to the Library. Then the server doesnt need to do it and you get the best output for each content.
If you find one where the Audio is low you can boost it and re-encode it...
I'd rather play it in MPC-HC. Going through and re-encoding almost 1TB of data isn't going to happen
Thanks for the explanation though
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I'd rather play it in MPC-HC. Going through and re-encoding almost 1TB of data isn't going to happen
Thanks for the explanation though
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I fully understand and agree....I have much more than that myself which was all encoded in MP4/H.264/AAC and MP3 for Android playback (worked for CCast as well) but since then I have decided I really prefer the MKV container with H.264 video and Multitrack Audio (One Stereo and one for Commentary (AAC or MP3), One Surround (AAC or Dolby) and Subtitle track (en) as my preferred Library format.
It would be very hard to impossible for me to re-encode my current library to get what I want...Especially since much of my library is missing the pieces I want included (like Commentary, Multitracks and Subtitles).
So I'm taking it one collection at a time (I'm working on Aliens right now) and re-ripping from Blue Ray to get all the tracks I prefer.
Then replacing the entire collection at once...
Even more time consuming than a simple re-encode but at least I know I will have the movies I really care about archived properly.
For most though Transcoding is more than good enough. I'm just a bit obsessed with how I keep my Library.
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I am unsure of the difference between LPCM and PCM, but I believe it is the same thing in principal. The few disney movies I have with LPCM (Cars, Pirates of the Caribbean 1, 2 and 3) have a better soundtrack than what I hear when downmixed DD+ to PCM.
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Pretty sure too PCM and LPCM are the same thing i.e. totally uncompressed lossless audio. My amp seems to use PCM to indicate stereo and LPCM for multi-channel though I am not sure if this is a universal convention.
The way I understand it is everything is output from the CC as (L)PCM, having been delivered by Plex as AAC. So if you are saying your DD+ is getting down-mixed to emerge as (PCM) stereo then that should not be happening and will certainly sound way inferior to the original multichannel track. It should be getting output as 5.1 (L)PCM.
But even this is not going to sound as good as the soundtracks on the titles you mention since LPCM from the original source will be as good as it gets - delivered to your amp completely untouched, blank space and all. The (L)PCM delivered by CC to your amp is different to this though. This audio has already been compressed to DD+ and then converted by Plex to AAC. But, as Asphyx has indicated the resulting stream from the CC should sound, as near as makes no difference, just as good as the Dolby if it is getting properly transcoded.
It would probably be worth investigating further if your DD+ is actually getting down-mixed to stereo and if so why. Also, most of us using Windows did have a problem of missing rear channels when CC support by Plex was still in beta. That was soon sorted though, who knows, maybe not for some DD+ users?
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It would probably be worth investigating further if your DD+ is actually getting down-mixed to stereo and if so why. Also, most of us using Windows did have a problem of missing rear channels when CC support by Plex was still in beta. That was soon sorted though, who knows, maybe not for some DD+ users?
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It is because DD+ is not supported in Plex at the moment. They were waiting for XBMC to get an update called "Gotham" then they were going to fork off that build.
https://forums.plex.tv/index.php/topic/109415-does-plex-support-dd/#entry648738
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It is because DD+ is not supported in Plex at the moment. They were waiting for XBMC to get an update called "Gotham" then they were going to fork off that build.
https://forums.plex.tv/index.php/topic/109415-does-plex-support-dd/#entry648738
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Well Gotham has been out a few weeks now so hopefully you won't have long to wait :good:.
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Well Gotham has been out a few weeks now so hopefully you won't have long to wait :good:.
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What was "good" about Gotham, other than support for DD+ ? I am interested to hear the commits that Plex might also fork.
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What was "good" about Gotham, other than support for DD+ ? I am interested to hear the commits that Plex might also fork.
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I haven't upgraded yet - I'm being chicken and waiting for stable release of 13.1.
Apparently DD+ used to work fine in Eden (v 11) but Frodo (v12) broke it!
Here's the lowdown on what's new in Gotham:
XBMC Gotham FAQs
And more details here:
XBMC Gotham Changelog
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so here's my issue. it seems the video player itself has issues displaying 1920x1080 video. 1280x720 works fine, same video. same bitrate, same everything. this seems crocked.
do we know of any workaround for getting a 1080p to work. i've heard of people pulling it off, but i've spent three hours on this and i really believe it to be the player. i've tried third party clients and they're about 5fps. it's irksome.
help plz?
You know we have two different video players right? We have video player, and we also have movie player or something else like that. Try it.
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What do you expect to get from playing such large videos on the Cappy? I transcode mine to 720X480 in .mkv and they are simply stunning with zero playback issues. The Cappy supports the low end HD resolution of 1280X720, not the Blu-Ray rez of 1920X1080. And it supports that rez in shooting video so that it can be played back on a larger screen. There's no benefit to playing back videos that size on the device. Resize them, you won't notice any difference in picture quality and you'll save a ton of storage space.
I have 315 bluray movies half are 1080p other is 720p so half of my media is watchable on my cappy and my tab. I use Tversity to stream to my ps3 and everything but if there was away to make it only transcode 720p to mobile devices or have a player that will resize it for us that would be awesome.
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May be more of a codec problem than anything else.
While I never put anything bigger than 720p on my phone (since 1080p has no appreciable visual increase in quality on the phone screen, but a MUCH larger file size), I definitely have played 1080p on my phone before. Hence why I think it may simply be that 1080p MKV w/ certain codecs might not work. Remember that media files *legally* downloaded from the internet will often have slight variations in the parameters used when converting to MKV w/ x264/VC1/etc codec. Hence just because 2 files are "720p x264" in a Matroska container doesn't mean they are actually identically encoded. And the Galaxy S can sometimes be a bit picky about what formats it "automagically" supports and which it doesn't.
And by the way, as you clearly noticed, the "Video Player" app in Android is the only one to use the GPU to accelerate video playback. Other apps might work, but they will run the CPU way harder, and give you worse battery life. Monitoring the "time_in_state" to see what the CPU is running at, I can play 720p x264/MKV files with the CPU at only 400 MHz. Obviously, sometimes the default player won't play what you want, but it's much better to use it if at all possible.
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And by the way, as you clearly noticed, the "Video Player" app in Android is the only one to use the GPU to accelerate video playback. Other apps might work, but they will run the CPU way harder, and give you worse battery life. Monitoring the "time_in_state" to see what the CPU is running at, I can play 720p x264/MKV files with the CPU at only 400 MHz. Obviously, sometimes the default player won't play what you want, but it's much better to use it if at all possible.
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This is the main reason I stick with the built-in player. I was on a flight from Ft. Lauderdale to St. Louis to L.A. on Tuesday and I watched 3 movies of close to six hours total length. Landed in L.A. with 31% battery still remaining.
my reasons for wanting to play 1080p is irrelevant to the scenario, i'd just like to see it done.
i considered a codec issue shammy, but i extracted a 60second sample from my crank copy and left it in 1920x1080mkv and tried it. no dice. i handbraked it to 1920x1080mp4 no dice. i once again handbraked it to 1280x720mp4. worked fantastical without any change in any settings except res. hence why i think its a limitation on res rather than codec/bitrate.
i am just IRKED all around at this. time to hit the irc and start screaming at people until somebody gives me an answer huh lmfao
Square peg, round hole. Hope you find a big enough hammer.
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my reasons for wanting to play 1080p is irrelevant to the scenario, i'd just like to see it done.
i considered a codec issue shammy, but i extracted a 60second sample from my crank copy and left it in 1920x1080mkv and tried it. no dice. i handbraked it to 1920x1080mp4 no dice. i once again handbraked it to 1280x720mp4. worked fantastical without any change in any settings except res. hence why i think its a limitation on res rather than codec/bitrate.
i am just IRKED all around at this. time to hit the irc and start screaming at people until somebody gives me an answer huh lmfao
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Yea man I feel ya, why should you convert your movie to a realistic resolution for a 4" screen when you can ***** at other people to make it work. Doing anything yourself is for chumps.
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Its nice to be able to play 1080p why convert all your media when your ps3 and Xbox can play it at that size. Don't wish to lose quality on my other devices
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Its nice to be able to play 1080p why convert all your media when your ps3 and Xbox can play it at that size. Don't wish to lose quality on my other devices
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How do you lose quality by resizing for the device you'll be playing on? All those extra pixels of HD resolution on a 800X420 screen do not yield better quality, they just require more CPU/GPU to process and more storage space. Nothing is gained by playing HD-sized videos on the Cappy. Absolutely nothing.
I own a small HD video production company in L.A., but don't take my word for it.
I was talking about playing the same media file from my Ps3 on my tv. I'd rather not convert my 1080p files to 720 just for my hand held I'd rather have a better way to do all of it using the files I currently have. Tversity works good but not perfect for over 3G but when I had my iPhone it would play pretty good using airvideo over 3G but there has to be something to make it all work
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cerjam said:
my reasons for wanting to play 1080p is irrelevant to the scenario, i'd just like to see it done.
i considered a codec issue shammy, but i extracted a 60second sample from my crank copy and left it in 1920x1080mkv and tried it. no dice. i handbraked it to 1920x1080mp4 no dice. i once again handbraked it to 1280x720mp4. worked fantastical without any change in any settings except res. hence why i think its a limitation on res rather than codec/bitrate.
i am just IRKED all around at this. time to hit the irc and start screaming at people until somebody gives me an answer huh lmfao
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It would be nice to be able to do this I suppose..but if you don't mind...Why ?
If you play it on any other thing but your phone..you will not really benefit from having it this way..and also..you won't really have enough storage to hold it to be able to watch a full featured film.
Until Samsung gets off their asses and fixes the issue with making the usb-hdmi cable you will never get the output capable of seeing any difference than what you can easily do right now at 720p...If you want to ***** about something...that is what I would ***** about..They had those cables available for 1 month..and not many was ever shipped out to the stores when they introduced the phone...I've e-mailed them every week since October and the only reply is they are working on it...so...I'm not holding my breath on seeing it anytime soon since they are working on the next line of phones already..
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i'll probably get xbanned by the-equinoxe for this post, but it'll be worth it.
Clienterror:
I was doing my best to not "*****" at you "other people". If I wanted to ***** i'd be obviously *****ing, not laughing about it. How about I send you my 12TB of video and you can convert it all into 480p, would that suffice for you? since you have such an issue with what I do with my device and provide absolutely no helpful solution, you do it! I sure hope you have couple dual 12core opterons sitting around, because it's gonna take you awhile. currently, encoding crank.mkv time remaining: 1h5m. now realistically i'd never convert my entire collection, just whatever video I want to watch at the time. but guess what? When i'm leaving or doing something I do not have an hour to wait. It's almost faster to download a 480p copy, you realize that right. converting while dealing with 1080p is not fast, nowhere near it. I find it unlikely you have any experience in the matter, i'm sure i've put more time and effort into this than your useless 30 second out of line response, so "chump" take the attitude and leave my thread please.
Miami_Son:
Time is gained. something new and fun is gained, every dev and intelligent person i've talked to(i'm a regular in the irc, im sure .. i've ran into a few) has tried it. Just because your personal opinion you see no reason or purpose to it, does not mean others see it that way. and not to be an ass here, but I find it surprising anybody who owns a company relating to high definition video would refer to resolution as rez.
Mac11700:
Why? Because I can. Everyone should want to do. You all see me trying to play 1080 on my phone as insane, and to me it's insane for you to NOT want to watch it on your device. I wont have enough space? i've got 32gb in my galaxys, i can fit three 1080ps. I am not stupid, and you all should not assume I am.
it's very irky that you all jump on a question without any real input on the scenario, except for the basic obvious simplest answer which really isnt helpful to the situation rather than putting in some thought and trying to solve the issue.
now: has ANYONE else made any progress with it. any input regarding 1080p on the galaxys could help solve this issue. please and thank you.
alright ive been doing some more fiddling and came up wiht the following results.
using container mkv, and AVC as codec.
i started with 1920x1080 crank 60s sample gone through handbrake reducing it to about 6mb.
1920x1080 through
1282x726 do not play. at all. unknown file.
1280x720 and below play without issue, and play damn well.
the file is exactly the same codec and container, just resized. so i believe it to be an issue with the player.
http://cerjturb.net/u/crank_test_1080p.mkv
does this play on ANYONES device inside video player.
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Miami_Son:
Time is gained. something new and fun is gained, every dev and intelligent person i've talked to(i'm a regular in the irc, im sure .. i've ran into a few) has tried it. Just because your personal opinion you see no reason or purpose to it, does not mean others see it that way. and not to be an ass here, but I find it surprising anybody who owns a company relating to high definition video would refer to resolution as rez.
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Ooh, my internet shorthand has revealed me as a fraud. You got me.
Your insistence on trying to play HD videos larger than what the device is designed for brought to mind a good analogy. You sound like a guy who bought a nice sports car and is appalled at finding out he can't run it in the Indy 500.
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1920x1080 through
1282x726 do not play. at all. unknown file.
1280x720 and below play without issue, and play damn well.
the file is exactly the same codec and container, just resized. so i believe it to be an issue with the player.
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Could it possibly be that your video is simply beyond what the player and/or the device is designed to handle? Square peg, round hole, I say. 1280x720 is indeed within the scope of the HD specification, so there is no fraud in saying the device can play HD content. It just can't play the high end of the HD spectrum. Live with it or get another device.
He's just trying to find away to not reconvert 3,000 hours of videos... if there was away for the computer to transcode to 720p to the device but leave it 1080p for the ps3 but not make 2 files for one video.... how hard is it to want that??? Tversity works for that but it don't detect the device as a mobile device that wants 720p it either does 1080 or goes way low and looks like crap... we want it to do both 720p for they device Ans 1080p for the ps3 at the same time.
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He's just trying to find away to not reconvert 3,000 hours of videos... if there was away for the computer to transcode to 720p to the device but leave it 1080p for the ps3 but not make 2 files for one video.... how hard is it to want that??? Tversity works for that but it don't detect the device as a mobile device that wants 720p it either does 1080 or goes way low and looks like crap... we want it to do both 720p for they device Ans 1080p for the ps3 at the same time.
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I understand that, but it's like complaining that his old tube TV won't display HD signals. Or that his DVD player won't play BD discs. It just wasn't designed to do it. For a device to transcode 1080p to 720p on the fly would require a lot more horsepower than what the Captivate has under the hood. Accept and move on.
First, I understand why you want this; it's a matter of convenience and I don't blame you.
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the file is exactly the same codec and container, just resized. so i believe it to be an issue with the player.
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It may be the same codec and container, but what is the bitrate? A lot more data may have to be pumped through the i/o system and larger frames are going to have to be resampled. I'm not saying it is impossible on the hardware, but it might be. I seriously doubt that it's just a matter of some bug, oversight, or intentional disabling of 1080p without good reason.
I tried rock player lite, but it doesn't play hd vids very smoothly; I transcoded Star Trek 2009 to mp4, and its very jerky and doesn't play smooth..
Any other video players that you guys might recommend?
thanks so much; lovin' this damn thing!!!
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The best I have used so far is MoboPlayer (http://moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html) You have to use the medium version since the Xoom doesn't support Neon. This is the only player I could get to play 720p video smoothly. Hope that helps and if you find something better let me know!
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I tried this and it works the best out of all i have tried. Make sure you get the medium version and not the Neon version.
unfortunately, mobo player does not recognize .m4v files, which is how I have saved my ripped Blu rays..
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unfortunately, mobo player does not recognize .m4v files, which is how I have saved my ripped Blu rays..
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tried renaming them as mp4? usually does the trick for me if i recall. the two formats are almost identical.
I have had no trouble using the stock video player to play 720p videos encoded into a mp4 file. I would go that route and use the hardware decoding
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tried renaming them as mp4? usually does the trick for me if i recall. the two formats are almost identical.
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thanks; doing that, and encoding 720p instead of 1080p seemed to fix it!
Any news on the android version of VLC??
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thanks; doing that, and encoding 720p instead of 1080p seemed to fix it!
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The Xoom can easily handle 720p videos. I haven't tested 1080. It all depends on how you encode the video.
From what I've seen on the threads and in personal experience, there are really only two viable players: the Android native video player, and RockPlayer. Between these two, you should be able to enjoy all your video, provided you have encoded them correctly.
I hate converting videos, thats why i use mobo. Its played all my videos great. Much better than Rock played, vplayer advance same spot.
found one!
Vital player will play everything for me, including 1080p videos that I have encoded with Handbrake..
Loving this thing!!
rockplayer and the stock video player handles blu rays i convert with handbrake very well
I tried different players and playback quality is mostly the same. Perhaps minor, but I like the interface in mVideoPlayer - posters, IMDB links etc.
I have said it before and Ill say it again. Your best bet for video is to get PLEX. As of this writing it is still not Honeycomb ready. As a beta tester working with the devs, I can tell you that its playing video like a champ on my Xoom and a release to public should be coming very soon.
what good is telling us that here if WE can't download it yet?
you should wait until its released before you keep posting that here..
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what good is telling us that here if WE can't download it yet?
you should wait until its released before you keep posting that here..
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Two reasons really.
Lets face facts that the majority of us here own a Xoom because we are Android nerds and already own a Android phone. So purchasing Plex on your phone will give you access to it on your Xoom when its available. In truth you can install it on your Xoom already, the video just does not work in the current release.
Two there is no quicker way to know about its updated release for Honeycomb compatibility then to have it already installed and letting the market inform you.
Lastly this is a community page and a community OS, so keeping others informed is kind of the way things work. If you have a problem with someone telling you that there will soon be an app released that will do X, but you cant have it yet, mumble quietly to yourself, but keep it to yourself.
ritalin said:
I have said it before and Ill say it again. Your best bet for video is to get PLEX. As of this writing it is still not Honeycomb ready. As a beta tester working with the devs, I can tell you that its playing video like a champ on my Xoom and a release to public should be coming very soon.
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Does it play local files yet or all still streamed from server? Also, any clue of an ETA?
dch921 said:
I have had no trouble using the stock video player to play 720p videos encoded into a mp4 file. I would go that route and use the hardware decoding
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Do you mean using stock player in hardware decoding mode?
How do you do this? I can't find the options for the stock player.
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QQPlayer is free and doesnt want any special permissions
Hi,
I use QQPlayer. It plays everything I have thrown at it and it does not need any special permissions to install.
-TheHoovie
I'm still using Mobo. I just played a 1080p Meet the Fockers avi I got from a torrent site over HDMI on my big TV and everything was perfect.
patass said:
I'm still using Mobo. I just played a 1080p Meet the Fockers avi I got from a torrent site over HDMI on my big TV and everything was perfect.
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Obviously wasn't high profile or it would have stuttered without sound.
What resolution and file type is best for the Nook Color? I tried one at 1028x563ish and it won't play. I have another that is like 420x800 or something like that and it plays but picture quality isn't quite as good as it could be (worse than streaming content viewed on the nook). What have you guys had work well for you? I have been using mp4 files cause they will play on my nook and my wife's iPad
The search function is your friend...there are whole discussions on this subject. To sum up...854X480 is the Max resolution for hardware based playback. There are multiple links to various handbrake presets...the one I use is set to 1k kbits.
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MoBo Player is also your friend. Works well with just about anything.
Try 512x300 (a quarter of the Nook screen) at 600 kbps with 96kbps audio. More than sufficient!
I know it's not as good as the max res the Nook supports but it allows you to put many more movies on it at the same time...
I usually use 852x480... I didn't know about the 854x480 limit - I'm not sure where I got 852 from. I use ffmpeg to rip... the most important thing is to have -vpre baseline in the options or the video may not play. Mp4 supports a ton of different options when encoding, and baseline makes sure that nothing is included that the nook can't handle.
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MoBo Player is also your friend. Works well with just about anything.
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I use handbrake and set video to 1024x576. Mobo plays this perfectly.
I realize this is beyond the max rez, but with Mobo it is gorgeous for playback.
framitz said:
I use handbrake and set video to 1024x576. Mobo plays this perfectly.
I realize this is beyond the max rez, but with Mobo it is gorgeous for playback.
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Just note that your battery life will suffer considerably compared to encoding the video so that the DSP can handle decoding.
I use Cucosofts dvd ripper ultimate.this software is capable of converting to just about any format out there.I've had great success with mp4 itouch settings. Set to maximum bit rate for the best picture quality possible.Rips and converts any dvd I've thrown at it.Audio and video quality is great.
I have a home theater PC via Windows Media Center. It has Netflix built in. We watch streaming on it all the time. I'm very happy with the picture quality.
But... The quality of Netflix via Chromecast is stunning! Truly stunning! It rivals Bluray. I was blown away by it. Good job Google and Netflix.
believe the same SoC chip(cpu, gpu), or it's cousins (Marvell 88DE3010), are in 3D bluray players too
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believe the same SoC chip(cpu, gpu), or it's cousins (Marvell 88DE3010), are in 3D bluray players too
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It's possible. But, at the Google announcement, they said that this was the first implementation of 1080p for Netflix.
TabGuy said:
It's possible. But, at the Google announcement, they said that this was the first implementation of 1080p for Netflix.
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not exactly true
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/netflix-super-hd-3d-streaming/
Today I'm going to shortlist some Music Players and Video Players which are supported with Nexus 6 and device with running Lollipop and will also discuss pros and cons of some of them
Music Player:
1. Power AMP: This is the most balanced music player available till now. It can deliver the PERFECTLY BALANCED BASS The equalizer is much effective. Another advantage of it is that it has many themes to choose from. Some are paid and some are free. It'll fully compatible with lollipop so there will be no crash of the app. And it's dirt cheap. You get 7 days of free trial and then you'll have to purchase the unlocker
Link: 1. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxmpz.audioplayer
2. Full version unlocker: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxmpz.audioplayer.unlock
2. JetAudio Plus: This music player is mainly targeted towards the common people who is not too much serious about the audio but it doesn't mean that it's bad. It's the second best music player available on google playstore. I'll always ask everyone to purchase the plus version as this music player is not that effective with the two plug-ins it comes with (plug-ins are available to purchase through IAP) which are AM3D Audio Enhance and Bongiovi DPS. AM3D is a great plug-in which actually control the audio out-put of your taste and with Bongivoi DPS you can switch between different headphone's audio drivers. Though it's costly but it worth the price tag. Last but not the least, if you're using Pebble SmartWatch then it can be great addition for you because it has Pebble watch support
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jetappfactory.jetaudioplus
3. Google Play Music: As a free music player it prove itself as a great musicplayer, always
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.music
4. Musixmatch music & lyrics: A great music player with material design and tinted statusbar and great for those who want the Lyrics of their songs. Please note that for lyrics, the meta data of the audio file should be correct or else it'll fail to show the lyrics.
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.musixmatch.android.lyrify
5. Neutron Music Player: This is a balanced music player. It can deliver very balanced bass. Worth trying
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mp
Other:
Player Pro: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tbig.playerpro
DoubleTwist Player (New): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.doubleTwist.androidPlayer
Video Player:
1. VLC for Android beta: Don't go by the term 'Beta'. It's a beast while playing video. If your device is capable enough to run the video file, it'll make sure that the video runs in buttery smooth FPS.
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc.betav7neon
2. MX Player Pro: It's a great video player with all video format supported. get the pro version to remove the add and some pro features
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.pro
3. KMPlayer: Another video player with all video format supported
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kmplayer
PS: To test the audio out-put through headphones I've used AudioTechnica ATH M50 and Sennheiser CXC 700. Please note that audio quality mainly depends on the audio driver (hardware based) of your device and also on the out-put device you're using, such as headphones and portable speakers.
Please do press the "Thanks" button if this thread has helped you
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Great :thumbup:
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Thanks mate
+1 to Poweramp. Don't like the design of it? No worries, download https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ikorolkov.poweramp.skins.material to go with it
zephiK said:
+1 to Poweramp. Don't like the design of it? No worries, download https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ikorolkov.poweramp.skins.material to go with it
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Yeah that's a great skin. Also do try these skins
My current skin: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.majeur.poweramp.skins.sense
Those I've tried: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ikorolkov.poweramp.skins.ios7d
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mordgrad.poweramp.skins.dark
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ikorolkov.poweramp.skins.flat.grey
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxmpz.poweramp.skins.tronturqouise
And also try JetAudio Plus. It'll never disappoint you. But you'll have to use this with those 2 plug-ins
Why you show no love to playerpro... lol
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Thanks for the helpful information.
Also worth noting is that yesterday I needed to play an MKV video file with AC3 audio and MX Player did not support the audio. I didn't download the pro version but it looks like this is a known issue with MX right now. VLC worked flawlessly. So looks like for the time being VLC is the go to until some plugin support gets worked out if you have need of AC3 playback.
ZeusIII said:
Thanks for the helpful information.
Also worth noting is that yesterday I needed to play an MKV video file with AC3 audio and MX Player did not support the audio. I didn't download the pro version but it looks like this is a known issue with MX right now. VLC worked flawlessly. So looks like for the time being VLC is the go to until some plugin support gets worked out if you have need of AC3 playback.
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It isn't a known problem, MX Player was forced to remove the AC3 audio codec due to licensing problems. To workaround this, download the custom codec.
See, http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...c3-and-mlp-audio-codecs-workaround-available/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/mx-player/mx-player-custom-codec-dts-support-t2156254
and then your mkv, AC3 audio videos will work the same before. VLC is great though. It's my go-to player on the desktop but on Android, I prefer MX Player.
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It isn't a known problem, MX Player was forced to remove the AC3 audio codec due to licensing problems. To workaround this, download the custom codec.
See, http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...c3-and-mlp-audio-codecs-workaround-available/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/mx-player/mx-player-custom-codec-dts-support-t2156254
and then your mkv, AC3 audio videos will work the same before. VLC is great though. It's my go-to player on the desktop but on Android, I prefer MX Player.
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Didn't know that. I'll have to check out the workaround because I'm in the same boat, like MX Player a little better than VLC on Android but they are both great.
I can't believe nobody uses Shuttle player, I hardly ever hear it mentioned...by far the best music player to me, great UI, nice eq and sound quality, gapless playback (which is huge cause I listen to a lot of live music), no ads, very smooth...
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Why you show no love to playerpro... lol
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Already mentioned Player Pro
ZeusIII said:
Thanks for the helpful information.
Also worth noting is that yesterday I needed to play an MKV video file with AC3 audio and MX Player did not support the audio. I didn't download the pro version but it looks like this is a known issue with MX right now. VLC worked flawlessly. So looks like for the time being VLC is the go to until some plugin support gets worked out if you have need of AC3 playback.
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VLC is the best so far. As far as I know MX player had to terminate AC3 codec due to some license codec.
zephiK said:
It isn't a known problem, MX Player was forced to remove the AC3 audio codec due to licensing problems. To workaround this, download the custom codec.
See, http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...c3-and-mlp-audio-codecs-workaround-available/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/mx-player/mx-player-custom-codec-dts-support-t2156254
and then your mkv, AC3 audio videos will work the same before. VLC is great though. It's my go-to player on the desktop but on Android, I prefer MX Player.
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Was going to mention the same links and then saw you post. But still I like VLC much more. I've the paid MX Player but faced some stuttering while playing a 4K video. So uninstalled that and using VLC now
perceptualdoor said:
I can't believe nobody uses Shuttle player, I hardly ever hear it mentioned...by far the best music player to me, great UI, nice eq and sound quality, gapless playback (which is huge cause I listen to a lot of live music), no ads, very smooth...
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Haven't checked that on my device. Will try and let you know
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Why you show no love to playerpro... lol
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This and Neutron player. If you are interested in the absolute best sound Neutron player has no equals, makes poweramp sound like mud.
kingston73 said:
This and Neutron player. If you are interested in the absolute best sound Neutron player has no equals, makes poweramp sound like mud.
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Checked Neutron. Not so impressed
SAW_JOK3R said:
Checked Neutron. Not so impressed
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Did you actually listen to the sound, or just look at it? Not great to look at but side by side with any of the others it blows them out of the water sound with sound quality. I don't work for them or anything, I'm just impressed with how much better it sounds. I'm mainly concerned with the quality over bluetooth in my car, so maybe with headphones its a different story.
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Did you actually listen to the sound, or just look at it? Not great to look at but side by side with any of the others it blows them out of the water sound with sound quality.
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Don't know man how can you praise it? :-/ It's not that good :-/ power amp and jetaudio plus with those two plug-ins sounds great for me At least with my headies And most of the people agree with this fact that these two ate great As I mentioned in my post that audio out-put device pays one of the most important role I'll rather ask you to check it with some quality headies rather than car speakers
kingston73 said:
This and Neutron player. If you are interested in the absolute best sound Neutron player has no equals, makes poweramp sound like mud.
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+1
Update: As many users are rating Neutron player good, listed it to the thread