I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
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Sorry, can't agree less...AOSP is the best, I will never go back to anything else. Everyone else spends so much time packing in all of these other apps and features that are worthless to 95% of their users. As a result, updates are slower and in most cases never even happen. Our little guy here will always be up to date with the latest and greatest that Google can whip up.
I will admit that the display size (and resolution) leaves a bit to be desired, coming from one of the most beautiful displays I've ever seen on a phone (DNA). Not a deal breaker for me.
At any rate, the truth is that every single person on this forum has a different "ideal" device from everyone else. If you feel like you want something else that's OK...it's the inevitable reality considering there is always something newer and better out there.
I love this phone and will happily wear it out until I'm due for an upgrade next June.
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OK that's fine. I'm not one to shout down a person who doesn't agree with me. Its not that I love the bloat of other OS but the colors of say the LG G3 or maybe a white version of our current vanilla
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i don't want a bigger screen and android can be customized to look and perform as you like.
moto x is not aging and i won't feel bad about keeping mine if moto comes out with a bigger one for the x+1.
I'm actually really surprised. My last 4 android phones have been rooted and customized. I love my moto X with stock 4.4.2. I would like to root it and use XPOSED but I'm very happy with it as is.
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Oh and I am still really impressed with the speed of the Moto X. I was a little worried after seeing the specs but this thing flies and I get virtually no lag.
I don't know what it is. I'm intrigued by the lg g3 but who knows I probably won't make the switch. I have to actually see it and use it
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Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.
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well, i come from a sony device in which i used to change roms every week (i know what u r thinking, but yes i had a lot of free time)
that is one of the things i am missing in Moto X (i haven't rooted it yet)
yes the stock rom is not that exciting with a lot of features but that makes the X fly..
i am ok with the stock rom..
If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.
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If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.
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+1 I was using HKThemeManager and you can find different themes if you look hard enough. I had my drop down notification look like the gs5 with its color scheme and various other themes. But I decided to go back to stock.
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someguyatx said:
Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.
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Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
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For my use and preference the Moto X is the absolute best phone on the market. I have the opportunity to buy the latest and greatest if I choose to do so and yet I am completely unimpressed by:
-what is on the market today
-the fact that no OEM is focusing on reducing bezel size drastically or improving ergonomics in any meaningful way except Moto with their X line.
-Screen
I've already decided for my eyesight, viewing distance and hand size the 4.7 inch screen is perfect. Anything bigger and I find it harder to use Swype keyboard (I tend to be humble about most things but I'm a very fast Swyper). The max I would go with is 5 inch screen ONLY IF bezels are RIDICULOUSLY small, even smaller than Moto X. Theoretically you could fit a 5 inch screen on a phone the size of the Moto X. But nobody is focusing on this. There still isn't a phone on the market with thinner side bezels than Moto X.
-Active notifications.
Could I live without it? Probably. Do I want to? Nop.
-Touchless controls
I could live without it.
Moto X is the perfect form factor and because vertical scrolling fluidity and frame drops are a problem with Android OS and not the hardware, I don't find that Galaxy S5, HTC M8 are any smoother or faster than my debloated X. At all. I've done side by side comparisons.
For me Moto X is the perfect form factor/weight/feature set. If the next Moto X model to be released is a lot bigger, I will just buy another Moto X as a spare. I like iphone as well (I switch back and forth a lot, the customizability via jailbreak tends to put Android to it's knees but that's a tough pill to swallow for most people here) but I wasn't impressed by the iphone 6 leaks (bezels are not thinner than the 5/4s wth!) AND the fact that iphone doesn't have an official swype (still doable via touchpal and jailbreak but not nearly as good) is kind of a deal breaker for me. Swype is how I learned how to use smartphones. You would probably drool over my speed typing with swype or laugh at my clumsiness with two finger tapping. I feel like an idiot tap typing one handed on an iphone it's SOOO bloody slow
With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
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rocketsaucev2 said:
With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
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There are already software systems in place to avoid this in ipad air due to it's small(er) bezels. It's just an algorithm that takes things like current orientation and digitizer inputs to decide whether it will ignore that input or not.
All it does is ignores your thumb inputs while you hold the device with let's say your right hand. 4 fingers are supporting the back of the device and the thumb is clamping the screen. The thumb input is ignored by the OS which then turns it's attention to the hand that you are intending on navigating the OS with (left hand in this case).
Given a very small bottom bezel the size of Moto X's would avoid that issue. And Moto X's bottom bezel is friggin tiny! :laugh:
AndreaCristiano said:
Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
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Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.
AndreaCristiano said:
I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
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Could not disagree more.
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kj2112 said:
Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.
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My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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AndreaCristiano said:
My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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Link?
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Link?
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To the app?
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AndreaCristiano said:
To the app?
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I'd use an app like that that doesn't drain battery. Honestly, never heard of one. ?
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Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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I think you need to ask yourself what dont you like about the Note 3. Also, why not just go and try the phone at any AT&T store?
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it
anirudh412 said:
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it
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It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
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anirudh412 said:
I think you need to ask yourself what dont you like about the Note 3. Also, why not just go and try the phone at any AT&T store?
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it
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Thanks for the input. The size of the Note 3 bugs me a little bit and the horrible wifi reception are my two main reasons. I went and played with the Moto X today and I was digging it.
Cubfan99 said:
It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
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Oh yeah? How hard are we talking? I'm a pretty seasoned android user. Can you link me to the process?
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Thanks for the input. The size of the Note 3 bugs me a little bit and the horrible wifi reception are my two main reasons. I went and played with the Moto X today and I was digging it.
Oh yeah? How hard are we talking? I'm a pretty seasoned android user. Can you link me to the process?
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Its in the original android development. There are two posts. One is for 4.2.2 and the most recent 4.4.
There is a 3rd one but your phone will probably not be on 4.1.
It is not hard.....I don't know squat and was able to nail it. Just follow the instructions to a T and you'll he fine.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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My wife has a note and I have an X. My first inclination is to say they are vastly different phones. I assume you are looking at the overall experience and not so much the cost of the phone.
If the losing the larger screen isn't a deal-breaker for you, then it's not a bad move as long as you are OK with what you are giving up. For multimedia, streaming and all the S-pen "jazz" it's a great device, it really is. I tend to think of the X a little more like a workhorse. Day in and day out it just keeps knocking it out of the park for normal, everyday tasks. Lesser specs, yes, but with all the optimizations it is smooth as butter across the board. In all the years I've had smartphones, I've *never* had one I trust to get me through the day until now (I work until midnight some times and don't always have convenient access to a charger).
I think you'll love the notifications on the X. They keep going as long as you have unaddressed notifications. From that screen you can dismiss them, jump straight into the app the notification is from or just unlock the phone. It's fantastic for dealing with a multitude of work emails, or other things like that.
Cubfan99 said:
It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
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Actually all it needs you to do, is go through all pages in the thread. Every single problem has been addressed. And if that's still too complicated, one can always stay on 4.2.2 (Camera OTA) and use the One Click RockMyMoto
I recently sold my Note 3 to pick up a Moto X. I ended up getting a white TMO 16GB Moto X on Cyber Monday that I've had since last Wed. The primary reason that I wanted to get rid of the Note 3 was the overall size. I'm a pretty big dude (6'5 280) so I've got pretty large hands and it still was too much phone to deal with on a daily basis. My hand would literally start hurting/cramping and having a burning sensation all through my knuckles and that gradually worked it's way down my arm. So I got fed up and decided to get rid of it on Craigslist. I will say that the screen quality, expandable storage and battery life on the N3 are the primary things that I missed initially. What I don't miss is the fire burning in my hand and forearm that I felt everyday using it.
So now that I've had my Moto X for a few days now I can say without any doubt that I made the right decision to switch. The ice storm here in Dallas has afforded me the opportunity to have three solid days of quality time with this awesome phone.
Here are some specific points:
The in hand feel is fantastic and I haven't experienced any discomfort at all. The build quality and fit and finish are top notch as well. The N3 just feels cheap and fragile compared to it. It also has a great weight to it that makes it feel very solid. I'm not scared to drop this phone and have it shatter into a million pieces. Even still I ended up ordering a case for it to preserve its pristine condition.
I will definitely say that the difference in screen resolution isn't nearly as noticeable as I thought that it was going to be. The screen on the Moto X is very sharp an vibrant while being extremely responsive. Very deep blacks and somewhat warm whites. The colors absolutely pop with vivid contrast. I can't complain at all about the screen.
The battery life on the N3 was simply insane. The best screen on time that I ever got was right at 8hrs. It was a beast when it came to battery life. That being said I can pull down 5:30-6hrs screen on time with my Moto X. So I can definitely notice a difference but it's not a deal breaker for me. I can live with the battery life that I'm getting with the Moto X. Plus it charges crazy fast.
Expandable memory is probably the biggest issue that I've had. I opted for the 16GB version with the intent of utilizing the 200GBs of cloud storage that I have at my disposal. I've also stopped keeping music stored on my device and use streaming services like Play Music All Access, Spotify and Google Drive via the Beat app. It's been mostly painless but there was some adjusting initially. I had a 32GB N3 with a 64GB SD which is a ton of local storage. Believe it or not I just had to slightly adjust what apps and games to install instead of just installing everything. It has actually had the added bonus of streamlining and focusing my gaming attention. Now I'm having to play a game and beat it to get to the next one. I tend to try and look at the positive side of things.
Now lets get to the best aspect of the Moto X and that's the Motorola software tweaks onboard. I don't know how I ever lived without Active Notifications. It's such an elegant and logical way to handle notifications that it should just be baked into Android. I love that I can just glance over to see quickly what it is without touching my device. Then if I want to get more info I can just press the icon and it displays more detail. Then if I want to address it just swipe up to jump directly respond to it. Simply fantastic! I also like that if I just want to see the time or use my device it knows that I've picked it up and lights up the Active Notifications screen.
I've only recently started using Moto Assist so I can't comment in depth but I can say that its been very useful thus far.
Always listening is also insanely awesome and more useful than I'd imagined. I've never really used voice controls on a phone before simply because they've never been very intuitive or useful. What the Moto X has to offer is completely different beast all together. I've started using it more lately and its really amazing software to have at your disposal. I love that if I want to do a Google search or play some music or respond to a text I can hands free with there simple words... Ok Google Now.
I know... I know, TL; DR.
Bottom Line:
The Moto X is an amazing device out the box and only continually gets better and more useful the more you use it. I don't miss my Note 3 at all. Not even a little bit and now look back on it and think how I ever went without these features. I highly recommend this device and love that I've already got Kit Kat running on it. It makes me excited to see what's next as far as updates and tweaks are concerned.
I hope this somewhat helps someone who is on the fence.
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I moved to the Moto X from the Note 3, no regrets at all. I hated Touchwiz. I do miss the SD slot a bit, but I'll live. The active notifications make up for it though, I freaking love them.
tnt118 said:
My wife has a note and I have an X. My first inclination is to say they are vastly different phones. I assume you are looking at the overall experience and not so much the cost of the phone.
If the losing the larger screen isn't a deal-breaker for you, then it's not a bad move as long as you are OK with what you are giving up. For multimedia, streaming and all the S-pen "jazz" it's a great device, it really is. I tend to think of the X a little more like a workhorse. Day in and day out it just keeps knocking it out of the park for normal, everyday tasks. Lesser specs, yes, but with all the optimizations it is smooth as butter across the board. In all the years I've had smartphones, I've *never* had one I trust to get me through the day until now (I work until midnight some times and don't always have convenient access to a charger).
I think you'll love the notifications on the X. They keep going as long as you have unaddressed notifications. From that screen you can dismiss them, jump straight into the app the notification is from or just unlock the phone. It's fantastic for dealing with a multitude of work emails, or other things like that.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback! It's funny because the active notifications are the #1 thing that I'm most excited about.
For some reason I'm a notification junkie. I really rely on them to the point where I won't even consider a phone without at least an led notification light. As a matter of fact, I passed on the HTC One because you simply can barely see that tiny pinhole light that it has.
calmlydefyinglogic said:
I recently sold my Note 3 to pick up a Moto X. I ended up getting a white TMO 16GB Moto X on Cyber Monday that I've had since last Wed. The primary reason that I wanted to get rid of the Note 3 was the overall size. I'm a pretty big dude (6'5 280) so I've got pretty large hands and it still was too much phone to deal with on a daily basis. My hand would literally start hurting/cramping and having a burning sensation all through my knuckles and that gradually worked it's way down my arm. So I got fed up and decided to get rid of it on Craigslist. I will say that the screen quality, expandable storage and battery life on the N3 are the primary things that I missed initially. What I don't miss is the fire burning in my hand and forearm that I felt everyday using it.
So now that I've had my Moto X for a few days now I can say without any doubt that I made the right decision to switch. The ice storm here in Dallas has afforded me the opportunity to have three solid days of quality time with this awesome phone.
Here are some specific points:
The in hand feel is fantastic and I haven't experienced any discomfort at all. The build quality and fit and finish are top notch as well. The N3 just feels cheap and fragile compared to it. It also has a great weight to it that makes it feel very solid. I'm not scared to drop this phone and have it shatter into a million pieces. Even still I ended up ordering a case for it to preserve its pristine condition.
I will definitely say that the difference in screen resolution isn't nearly as noticeable as I thought that it was going to be. The screen on the Moto X is very sharp an vibrant while being extremely responsive. Very deep blacks and somewhat warm whites. The colors absolutely pop with vivid contrast. I can't complain at all about the screen.
The battery life on the N3 was simply insane. The best screen on time that I ever got was right at 8hrs. It was a beast when it came to battery life. That being said I can pull down 5:30-6hrs screen on time with my Moto X. So I can definitely notice a difference but it's not a deal breaker for me. I can live with the battery life that I'm getting with the Moto X. Plus it charges crazy fast.
Expandable memory is probably the biggest issue that I've had. I opted for the 16GB version with the intent of utilizing the 200GBs of cloud storage that I have at my disposal. I've also stopped keeping music stored on my device and use streaming services like Play Music All Access, Spotify and Google Drive via the Beat app. It's been mostly painless but there was some adjusting initially. I had a 32GB N3 with a 64GB SD which is a ton of local storage. Believe it or not I just had to slightly adjust what apps and games to install instead of just installing everything. It has actually had the added bonus of streamlining and focusing my gaming attention. Now I'm having to play a game and beat it to get to the next one. I tend to try and look at the positive side of things.
Now lets get to the best aspect of the Moto X and that's the Motorola software tweaks onboard. I don't know how I ever lived without Active Notifications. It's such an elegant and logical way to handle notifications that it should just be baked into Android. I love that I can just glance over to see quickly what it is without touching my device. Then if I want to get more info I can just press the icon and it displays more detail. Then if I want to address it just swipe up to jump directly respond to it. Simply fantastic! I also like that if I just want to see the time or use my device it knows that I've picked it up and lights up the Active Notifications screen.
I've only recently started using Moto Assist so I can't comment in depth but I can say that its been very useful thus far.
Always listening is also insanely awesome and more useful than I'd imagined. I've never really used voice controls on a phone before simply because they've never been very intuitive or useful. What the Moto X has to offer is completely different beast all together. I've started using it more lately and its really amazing software to have at your disposal. I love that if I want to do a Google search or play some music or respond to a text I can hands free with there simple words... Ok Google Now.
I know... I know, TL; DR.
Bottom Line:
The Moto X is an amazing device out the box and only continually gets better and more useful the more you use it. I don't miss my Note 3 at all. Not even a little bit and now look back on it and think how I ever went without these features. I highly recommend this device and love that I've already got Kit Kat running on it. It makes me excited to see what's next as far as updates and tweaks are concerned.
I hope this somewhat helps someone who is on the fence.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed info! It was very helpful. Yeah I think I'm really ready for a smaller phone that I can use one handed and feels comfortable in the hand.
Like you said, I'm sure I'll miss the battery life of the Note 3, but I will be ok if I can get 4-5 hours of screen on time.
I'm very curious to see if I will miss any of the Touchwiz features or stock apps. I've owned mostly Samsung phones in the past so it will be interesting to see how well or if I will want to adjust.
I am honestly keeping my expectations very realistic and subdued. I am thinking of this as a 30 day test and rental at worst. I checked and I guess California gets a 30 day return policy rather than the normal 14 day policy which is odd, but I will take it lol.
I see 3 possible conclusions here:
1. I love the phone enough to make it a daily driver and dump my Note 3 and probably make a little money in the process since I got the Moto X for $350.
2. I like the phone enough to keep it but I still prefer my Note 3 as my daily driver and keep the Moto X as a backup phone.
3. I like the phone or just think it's ok but can't find a reason to even keep it as a backup and I return it for a full refund.
As you can see it's no risk for me and a win-win situation.
Thanks again for the input!
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I currently have a Verizon Galaxy S4 on Mk2 build. That basically means it's a worthless piece of locked down crap. Sure I can use safestrap and stuff but in the end it just doesn't compare to having the ability to flash normally and have a unlocked phone. I'm thinking of buying a Moto X dev edition and selling my S4. Is there any reason I should abandon this idea? Is there anything you would recommend other than the Moto X for Verizon? Is there anything you have to say about the S4 or the Moto X? Thanks
The main reason I want to switch is A. touchwiz is terrible in my opinion, B. modded touchwiz is still bad, and C. I like that the Moto X is really close to stock android and even if I flash on the dev edition, it is covered by warranty.
No brained. X dev. Edition.
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I recently made the switch from an S4 I got at launch... my opinions as follows:
-The S4 has a beautiful screen, hands down. However, it's dimmer than the X and I've found that the S4 had a blue tint to the screen with whites. My X doesn't have the yellowing, so it's pretty close to an actual white. The X's screen is awesome for only 720p, no doubt.
-Form factor... definitely have to go with the X. It got annoying all the time trying to use the S4 single-handed, you'd have to reach for the moon in order to pull down the notifications. The X with a Speck Candyshell case fits in my hand perfectly and can operate with one hand.
-Call quality is much better with the X, the S4 wasn't bad though.
-The X has a louder earpiece and rear speaker, sounds much cleaner and clearer than the S4's rear speaker, which was oddly placed to begin with.
-Speed... no comparison. The X absolutely runs circles around the S4 stock-for-stock. The S4 was a little faster with a ROM like Hyperdrive, but the janking and lags made it a pain especially when you're in a hurry. My debloated X has ZERO lag or hesitation. Opens apps instantly, connects to calls quickly, no delaying when waking the phone.
-The camera is a little better on the S4, I will admit. However, the S3's camera trumps both the S4 and X. Not to say the X has a bad camera, but don't expect super "beautiful instagram" quality or whatever. If you want to take pics, go buy a digital camera, that's what it's made for.
-Battery life is a toss up right now because I haven't had the X activated for a full week yet, so the battery is still "breaking in", if you will. However it's getting better day by day. The S4's battery was a little bigger, but the phone wasn't optimized for power-efficiency like the X. I would imagine once the battery gets settled in, I'll get better life than I did with the S4.
-The X has the on-screen nav keys, so it takes some time to get used to. I still subconsciously go to hit the physical home button to wake the phone, only to realize I don't have one anymore... lol. I had the same issue when I transitioned from the Droid X to the Thunderbolt, physical keys to soft capacitive keys.
Last but not least... the Dev X is open for modding how YOU want, unlike the S4. I too was stuck on the MK2 base and hated life for the last couple of months. I honestly don't think that the damage Samsung caused in the recent updates will be reversed, and if it does, everyone will have moved on to the latest and greatest anyhow. So, go get yourself a Dev X, it's worth it.
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I recently made the switch from an S4 I got at launch... my opinions as follows:
-The S4 has a beautiful screen, hands down. However, it's dimmer than the X and I've found that the S4 had a blue tint to the screen with whites. My X doesn't have the yellowing, so it's pretty close to an actual white. The X's screen is awesome for only 720p, no doubt.
-Form factor... definitely have to go with the X. It got annoying all the time trying to use the S4 single-handed, you'd have to reach for the moon in order to pull down the notifications. The X with a Speck Candyshell case fits in my hand perfectly and can operate with one hand.
-Call quality is much better with the X, the S4 wasn't bad though.
-The X has a louder earpiece and rear speaker, sounds much cleaner and clearer than the S4's rear speaker, which was oddly placed to begin with.
-Speed... no comparison. The X absolutely runs circles around the S4 stock-for-stock. The S4 was a little faster with a ROM like Hyperdrive, but the janking and lags made it a pain especially when you're in a hurry. My debloated X has ZERO lag or hesitation. Opens apps instantly, connects to calls quickly, no delaying when waking the phone.
-The camera is a little better on the S4, I will admit. However, the S3's camera trumps both the S4 and X. Not to say the X has a bad camera, but don't expect super "beautiful instagram" quality or whatever. If you want to take pics, go buy a digital camera, that's what it's made for.
-Battery life is a toss up right now because I haven't had the X activated for a full week yet, so the battery is still "breaking in", if you will. However it's getting better day by day. The S4's battery was a little bigger, but the phone wasn't optimized for power-efficiency like the X. I would imagine once the battery gets settled in, I'll get better life than I did with the S4.
-The X has the on-screen nav keys, so it takes some time to get used to. I still subconsciously go to hit the physical home button to wake the phone, only to realize I don't have one anymore... lol. I had the same issue when I transitioned from the Droid X to the Thunderbolt, physical keys to soft capacitive keys.
Last but not least... the Dev X is open for modding how YOU want, unlike the S4. I too was stuck on the MK2 base and hated life for the last couple of months. I honestly don't think that the damage Samsung caused in the recent updates will be reversed, and if it does, everyone will have moved on to the latest and greatest anyhow. So, go get yourself a Dev X, it's worth it.
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Alright. Also I understand the X is close to stock android, but there wouldn't happen to be any stable AOSP roms for jellybean? I don't really like kitkat that much
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Alright. Also I understand the X is close to stock android, but there wouldn't happen to be any stable AOSP roms for jellybean? I don't really like kitkat that much
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Kitkit in my opinion is better then jellybean but if you don't like it you can still revert back to 4.2.2.
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Kitkit in my opinion is better then jellybean but if you don't like it you can still revert back to 4.2.2.
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Honestly i just hate the white battery. Reason I dont like my s4 is because of touchwiz...but mainly the green battery.
SwiftLeeO said:
Honestly i just hate the white battery. Reason I dont like my s4 is because of touchwiz...but mainly the green battery.
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Root and change battery icon with xbattery problem solved...
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Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
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Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
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I can't say about the new one yet. But I know by the old one. I left my nexus 5 for dead once I started using this phone made me go from a nexus 5 32gb to a 16gb motox I still won't switch back and I have one gig of storage left.
I haven't felt the new one yet. But this phone just feels right in your hand. But I've heard the m8 is sort of like that too.
Might sound stupid but the touch less control is something that becomes the way it should be. Would be weird to not have it but I see Google doing this eventually in all phones.
The one thing that I would really go crazy with is ..this phone wakes up when you pull it out a your pocket. I haven't touched the power button to wake in 8 months. I grab my wife's Iphone expecting to wake.
Really I think how apple amazes millions with some great features, design with low specs and great feel and usability of hardware and software is what the moto x has that maybe other androids do not. You just have to use it for a while and you will see. I hope th new one isn't to large for the feel factor or that will be negated and the software will not be worth it. It is the whole package combined that makes this phone great. Only the voice recognition is the best of any phone otherwise it does nothing the best but everything combined it is the best overall.....oh yeah in my op lol
the X is about just "refining" Android.
I also had a Nexus 5 and once I played with an X I bought one and put my Nexus 5 up for sale. I just got a new 2014 and software wise find it more refined. The only issue I have is that the 2013 was already so good and smooth the 2014 does not really add much, if anything, to it.
The X is for those that want Nexus experience, flagship specs, and great hands free controls. I get by with an 8GB device, if i could but 16 is as small as you can get. I feel that ANYONE that uses an SD card is just poor with data management. Odds are most of your music you load up you don't actually listen to regularly. if you are keeping FULL TV seasons on your phone to watch unless you are traveling thats pointless, you can just load a few eps to get through that day. Same with multiple movies with high bitrates.
I have all the apps I need, and I still have 10GB left. I have 3GB Data, that I pay $64/mo for and I NEVER go over it and I stream Google Music and Pandora in my car when driving to clients all the time. I also get company email and Gmail. I update apps over Mobile Data, and download Podcasts. My photos auto upload to g+. I tether my laptop on occasion. I can not see how anyone can go over 3GB unless you are also torrenting or doing a LOT of social media videos and photos. The closest I have come is 2.7GB in the last 18 months.
People say they need storage because they don't have Unlimited Data. You don't need unlimited data. You just need to not be stupid with your data. I know people that pay more than I do (by like $25-30) and don't get the same amount of data I do just because they refuse to show around carriers.
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I agree with that too about storage. I've felt the M8 and it does feel very nice in my hands but I hate HTC Sense. It ruins the Android experience for me.
aaronc_98 said:
Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
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how is the One M8 faster than the Moto X? both use the same chipset. i feel the Moto X is just as fast or faster than most of the skinned Android phones. for the screens, both are using different technologies. each will have their pitfalls
Moto X is mainly for those who want some added (useful) functionality on top of stock Android. if you like Sense, then stick with the One. if you want stock with some added things, Moto X. if you want just stock, then Nexus is the way to go. choices are good :good:
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how is the One M8 faster than the Moto X? both use the same chipset. i feel the Moto X is just as fast or faster than most of the skinned Android phones. for the screens, both are using different technologies. each will have their pitfalls
Moto X is mainly for those who want some added (useful) functionality on top of stock Android. if you like Sense, then stick with the One. if you want stock with some added things, Moto X. if you want just stock, then Nexus is the way to go. choices are good :good:
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I do like Sense- it has gotten so much better. I also love Nexus because of the all the development, so maybe I will give it a few more days to make a decision. I have the bootloader unlocked and root, so I know some good thing will be coming from the talented devs.
As someone who has owned both my opinions differ.
I find the Moto X 2014 much much faster and smoother than the M8. Even with the M8 running AOSP. ActiveDisplay is just awesome, its a little thing but it really is useful. The Moto X 2014 is easier to hold/use, and doesn't have a ridiculous power button located in a ridiculous spot. (My biggest dislike of the M8). While the M8 structure is beautiful and feels great, I didn't find it comfortable to hold/use. Sense 6 is beautiful but I didn't find it offered any actual value or features that I cared about or ever actually used.
Not that it takes much but the Moto X camera, while still lagging behind, is still far better than that crap 4up camera that HTC loves so much.
The Moto X does not really shine in any one way, it doesn't leap out in the crowd, its just a great phone to use.
Motorola seems to be the only Android manufacturer who actually cares about user experience. I downgraded from a Nexus 5 to the 2013 Moto X last year because it offered a much better experience. I upgraded to the 2014 Moto X this year and am not waiting for the Nexus. If you've never owned a Moto before you won't realize everything you are missing.
Moto X offers the following improvements for me:
-Active Display - HUGE plus if you've never used it
-Touchless Controls - I use this constantly in the car and at home when I'm working
-Moto Assist - great for when I am in meetings all day to silence my phone and auto reply
-Shake to activate camera - very underrated feature but if you're trying to take photos in a snap it's extremely handy
-Wave to wake phone to check notifications and silence calls - again underrated but works beautifully
-Bluetooth unlock when my 360 is connected so I don't have to type in my PIN
-Moto Migrate to keep all of my existing data seamlessly
-As close to stock as possible with these helpful additions
Also other considerations:
-Exceptional build quality - although M8 also has extremely good build quality
-Motorola is one of the only companies that actually pays attention to cell signal and reception and is superior, my Moto X 2013 hands down had better signal than my N5, 2014 is great for signal too, HTC Notoriously bad for signal
-Audio noise cancellation - the sound quality when recording and on a call is much better than other phones I have used. Moto X 2013 was FAR superior to N5 in this regard, I don't have a M8 to compare but consider it
-FAST upgrade time, we will be one of the first to get Android L - This is huge for me
I suppose a good answer will be when android L comes out, X should have it quick (of course lenovo taking over and Soni gone could change that) whereas HTC will probably be 6+ months behind because they have to retro fit the junkwear onto the new OS.
Who the hell wants skinned android L????! Not me!
Previous phone: Nexus 5
Current phone: Pure version Moto X on T-Mobile network
Comparison:
Con: touch sensitivity does not seem as good. Using swipe gestures in Nova Launcher I never had to repeat a swipe on the Nexus 5, but I occasionally do on the Moto X. I noticed there seems to be more of a lag when scrolling the screen on the Moto X. I set the phone to use ART instead of Dalvic and it seemed to help some, but the touch response still has a perceptible delay.
Pro: Voice command works well, even in noisy environments
Reception is improved
Speaker phone loudness and clarity is multiple times better. It is good and plenty loud.
IR sensors and software work great.
Screen is a little bigger, which I like.
Voice command to toggle silent mode is handy.
Battery life seems the same, or maybe slightly better.
UPDATE: I switched from Nova launcher to the Google Now Launcher, and the touch lag I mentioned in the Cons section above is no longer noticeable.
Con: I think the handoff from WiFi to cellular is not a smooth transition. The phone tries to hang on a weak WiFi signal to long before it switches to cellular, and I do have 'avoid poor connections' selected in the WiFi advanced options.
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Thanks for all the comments. I had not given the X a real chance so I did, and I do love the active display and voice commands- very unique, good expereince, but HOW could Moto put a 2,300mah battery in this? The battery was flat by 2:30 under moderate use. I guess we need a UV kernel and some good battery tweaks ASAP.
I do really like the screen too, the blacks are so black, and the colors pop, almost too much... And it does just feel good in your hand.
I will give it a few more days to see how battery life occurs...
thanks,
I just picked up the new x an I also have the m8. I'm really liking the x so far never had anything besides HTC I still have my m8 tho.
Edit I been on mine all day now it has not got hot at all. Running real smooth
To comment on the battery life. Yes it's not AMAZING, probably my only complaint with the device, but it works as advertised. With fairly heavy use my first full day of charge, everything turned on, here was my usage pattern:
-Bluetooth, Wifi, and Location On
-Approx 11 hours connected to Wifi and about 8 hours using 4G
-Google Now On
-Brightness Auto
-Streaming music for approx. 1.5 hours
-GPS in use for approx. 20 min
-Screen on time just over 3 hours
-Total time until battery died almost 19 hours
That for me is much better than my original X. I have to charge the phone once a day anyway. That type of usage pattern is moderate to heavy and lasted from when I woke up to when I went to bed.
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To comment on the battery life. Yes it's not AMAZING, probably my only complaint with the device, but it works as advertised. With fairly heavy use my first full day of charge, everything turned on, here was my usage pattern:
-Bluetooth, Wifi, and Location On
-Approx 11 hours connected to Wifi and about 8 hours using 4G
-Google Now On
-Brightness Auto
-Streaming music for approx. 1.5 hours
-GPS in use for approx. 20 min
-Screen on time just over 3 hours
-Total time until battery died almost 19 hours
That for me is much better than my original X. I have to charge the phone once a day anyway. That type of usage pattern is moderate to heavy and lasted from when I woke up to when I went to bed.
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This is promising to me. I have been only htc flagship phones since day 1. On my m8 I can got 26 hours heavy use from full to dead. An I was worried bout battery on this phone but everything else I read made me jump ship an try the new moto. I'm really liking the phone since I picked one up yesterday...
I first wanted to see if anyone else was annoyed with this phone as I am. If that was the case, then I wanted to have a mass complaint to Motorola because I honestly feel cheated by this phone. Since upgrading to 5.0 I really feel like this phone has just been incomplete. The software has been so buggy that I have found myself hating my phone, something I have never experience with an Android phone ever. I would have liked to have sold this phone and gone with something else, but I happened to drop it soon after getting it and I fell like nobody would buy it with the cosmetic damage done to it. My complaints honestly deal with just 5.0 in general and the memory leak issue, but I feel like Motorola should have done something about it much sooner. Considering the 5.0 update has been out for quite a few months now and my phone is the slowest and laggiest phone I have used since the OG Droid.
Does anybody else feel this strongly about this? I have the XT1096 by the way (Verizon model). I paid like 600$ for an incomplete phone. The hardware is great, albeit a small battery, but the software has been so terrible to me.
No complaints here
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Yeah no complaints here. Wipe your phone.
There is other threads dedicated to the memory leak issue, you guys aren't experiencing it?
Man the 5.0 update bugs is not moto's fault it is google's they rushed with its release the 5.0 deteriorates performance on all phones
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Man the 5.0 update bugs is not moto's fault it is google's they rushed with its release the 5.0 deteriorates performance on all phones
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I love blaming Google for stuff just as much as the next guy, but I'm having far more trouble on my Moto X. I used 5.0 on my Nexus 5 for a couple weeks before I got my Moto X and the only real issue I had was battery life. On my Moto X I am getting frequent issues with apps force closing (including built-in apps), data connection issues, bluetooth problems, etc... And yes, I performed a factory reset and saw the same issues with a "clean" phone.
I'm having none of these issues. The only problem I am having is Smart Lock not working, but I am about 99% sure it is because my firm's AirWatch policies are overriding my Smart Lock settings and preventing it from remaining unlocked while connected to my home WiFi. I occasionally have the problem where when someone calls, my phone vibrates like someone is calling, but it does not show up on the display or give me the option to answer until I lock my phone. I've narrowed this down to only happening in my apartment, so I again think this is related to AirWatch vs Smart Lock conflicts. No other problems on my end; I'm happy I purchased this phone (used, pure edition, for only $340 instead of full price). And I hated the Moto X 2013, so I'm definitely not a fanboy or anything.
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I first wanted to see if anyone else was annoyed with this phone
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Yup. But I was annoyed at the orig. Moto X as well. Moto makes great hardware (why I'm a fan), but their software has always sucked. It took until 4.4.4 for them to get all of their advertised features to work properly on the orig X.
IIRC, the new Moto X was flawless on 4.4.4. It was a mistake to update to 5.0, but I did it anyway (my bad). Missing Attentive Display (a main reason I bought the new model). Moto Voice can't be heard on BT, and numerous nagging little issues.
I assume they will get it right on the 2014 model on lollipop, most likely several months before the next new model ships, if the original Moto X timeline is any indicator.
IMHO, less attention to detail is the part of the price of admission to Android, but it has yet to become so inconvenient as to consider going back to iOS.
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I first wanted to see if anyone else was annoyed with this phone as I am. If that was the case, then I wanted to have a mass complaint to Motorola because I honestly feel cheated by this phone. Since upgrading to 5.0 I really feel like this phone has just been incomplete. The software has been so buggy that I have found myself hating my phone, something I have never experience with an Android phone ever. I would have liked to have sold this phone and gone with something else, but I happened to drop it soon after getting it and I fell like nobody would buy it with the cosmetic damage done to it. My complaints honestly deal with just 5.0 in general and the memory leak issue, but I feel like Motorola should have done something about it much sooner. Considering the 5.0 update has been out for quite a few months now and my phone is the slowest and laggiest phone I have used since the OG Droid.
Does anybody else feel this strongly about this? I have the XT1096 by the way (Verizon model). I paid like 600$ for an incomplete phone. The hardware is great, albeit a small battery, but the software has been so terrible to me.
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I'm annoyed with the phone, but for very different reasons than you are. I've got a short list:
The feel is very slippery, and like you, I've dropped my phone several times as a result. I also now have chipped glass at the corner. Yes, I could put a case on it. But... why customize, then cover it? Why buy a thin phone, then have it be thicker? I've come to find out now that the original black back is nice and grippy, but the colored backs are slippery as a... yeah, those are the words.
One flagship to rule them all. I'd love to see a smaller version of this phone. I know the Moto G exists, I know the Moto E exists. Obviously neither of those fit the bill based on the lack of an AMOLED screen.
Repeat Notifications on Moto Display. Repeat Notifications on Moto Display. Repeat....
Unlocking from Moto Display gives the lock screen. Bogus.
It's not a long list, and it is one that Moto could take care of fairly easily with some good customer service (exchanging slippery backs for grippy ones, even if you are past your return date), and a few software fixes. I don't know that the one flagship issue is fixable, or at least not easily. I don't *really* expect Moto to put all the latest and greatest features into a non-flagship style phone, I just wish they would.
I haven't really seen a memory leak problem, but I haven't done a whole lot of research. I'm a 17 year veteran of the IT trenches, and while rebooting isn't a 'fix' -- it damn well gets rid of a lot of problems. When my phone gets slow, I reboot. Takes about 30 seconds. ;; shrug ;; Maybe that doesn't help with the memory issue, but as I haven't run into it, maybe it does. Should it be necessary? No. Definitely not. Is it something I can live with? Definitely.
Regarding the software problems, however I will say (and I'm guessing it won't get me lots of compliments) that the 'WHERE IS MY UPGRADE' faction does have something to do with why we often see buggy software. The phone was pretty great on KitKat, and while I do love some of the features of Lollipop, I am not sure that getting the upgrade in such a hurry was worth the bugs listed above.
I don't want to see manufacturers using "bugs" as an excuse for delaying software upgrades excessively (like coming out with the KitKat upgrade now, after Lollipop is released, yuck) but I would like to see upgrades held until problems can be fixed, while being 100% open and honest about what is delaying things. I'd love to see specific dialogs, such as "We've noticed a huge memory leak issue in Lollipop with our custom software, so we're going to sort that out first before releasing the upgrade."
For those whom an upgrade is important, I would love to see a larger scale, opt-in, beta testing opportunity where someone could actually visit a webpage or app, sign off on the fact that they know that they could lose connectivity, battery life, features, convenience, etc --- and then has access to download the latest and greatest update. Users who want the upgrades then, could have them... but without the 'right' to complain overly much if problems did arise.
Just my thoughts. Let the dispute of the validity thereof now begin.
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There is other threads dedicated to the memory leak issue, you guys aren't experiencing it?
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I do: Nova Launcher keeps restarting after one or two days of phone uptime. Happens with Tasker too (but not so often than launcher to be honest).
It's easy to detect since going back to home screen leads to full screen redraw.
By using a task manager (like 3C Toolbox) one can check the "Time since start" of Nova process when the last restart happened (when set up as default, a launcher it should never restart).
Rebooting the phone solve the problem for a moment then it gets back again
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Does anybody else feel this strongly about this? I have the XT1096 by the way (Verizon model). I paid like 600$ for an incomplete phone. The hardware is great, albeit a small battery, but the software has been so terrible to me.
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Have you checked out the MoFo thread? We have root now, it is great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/mofo-xt1096-running-4-4-4-t3088438
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theideaweb said:
The feel is very slippery, and like you, I've dropped my phone several times as a result. I also now have chipped glass at the corner. Yes, I could put a case on it. But... why customize, then cover it? Why buy a thin phone, then have it be thicker?
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Have you checked out the slickwraps, dbrand and bestskinsever skins? I have a carbon fiber one on my Nexus 6 and it is grippy.
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I've come to find out now that the original black back is nice and grippy, but the colored backs are slippery as a... yeah, those are the words.
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Yeah the black is soft touch. The leather ones are fantastic and not slippery at all! I love the feel of my black leather and it was only $25 more - well worth it.
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Have you checked out the slickwraps, dbrand and bestskinsever skins? I have a carbon fiber one on my Nexus 6 and it is grippy.
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Yeah, I had the carbon fiber one on my original 2nd gen Moto X; still slipped out of my hand often enough to chip the glass. It's funny, because the instant I described the slippery problem, Motorola offered a no-charge replacement (but only of the same exact design)
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Yeah the black is soft touch. The leather ones are fantastic and not slippery at all! I love the feel of my black leather and it was only $25 more - well worth it.
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Which Moto finally, after about 5+ hours of phone calls, numerous long chats, and various e-mail exchanges... stated clearly to me as well. Prior to that, they were swearing up and down that the soft touch was ONLY available from AT&T and Verizon, as well as regional carriers.
I tried the blue leather since they were stating that the black was plastic resin (rather than the soft touch). It was actually really smooth as well, at least to me.
After 6 total exchanges, I've got a black soft-touch back Moto X on the way from the factory. We'll see if that does the trick. If not, I'll end up downgrading to the Moto G.. or now that I've discovered the Agent app.. perhaps the Galaxy S4 Google Play edition with the Agent app and Peek/ACDisplay/Ambient Display.
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If not, I'll end up downgrading to the Moto G.. or now that I've discovered the Agent app.. perhaps the Galaxy S4 Google Play edition with the Agent app and Peek/ACDisplay/Ambient Display.
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Samsung's radios/antennas on the S4 are absolutely horrible. They are as bad as the GNex and Note3.
theideaweb said:
Yeah, I had the carbon fiber one on my original 2nd gen Moto X; still slipped out of my hand often enough to chip the glass. It's funny, because the instant I described the slippery problem, Motorola offered a no-charge replacement (but only of the same exact design)
Which Moto finally, after about 5+ hours of phone calls, numerous long chats, and various e-mail exchanges... stated clearly to me as well. Prior to that, they were swearing up and down that the soft touch was ONLY available from AT&T and Verizon, as well as regional carriers.
I tried the blue leather since they were stating that the black was plastic resin (rather than the soft touch). It was actually really smooth as well, at least to me.
After 6 total exchanges, I've got a black soft-touch back Moto X on the way from the factory. We'll see if that does the trick. If not, I'll end up downgrading to the Moto G.. or now that I've discovered the Agent app.. perhaps the Galaxy S4 Google Play edition with the Agent app and Peek/ACDisplay/Ambient Display.
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I know this is about the backs and their feel but i have found that whule the navy blue is smooth and hard just like most of the rest with a hula case (aka bumper around it) slippage is minimized
While I don't think I'm quite as upset over the phone as you are I do agree that I am disappointed with 5.0 and can't believe it has taken this long for a bugfix. When my Moto X 2013 started to die I wanted another one but Moto couldn't replace it (32 meg units just weren't available) so they "upgraded" me to a 2014. Now keep in mind I loved the 2013, best phone I had ever had. Completely stock and no complaints. Then along comes the 2014 and 5.0. Not major issues just a bunch of minor issues that keep me from loving this phone. I guess I'd be happy to sign on to a complaint petition but then I'd be wondering if I should be yelling at Moto or Verizon?
Work is supplying me with this phone on Monday, I am relatively sure they will update it before giving it to me. So no root for now.... Even if it isn't I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the current root methods.
Anything I should know about the phone?
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It's pretty fast and powerful.
Root situation:
I'm an owner of this phone for about two months now, coming from the Droid Razr Maxx HD and the Droid Razr before that. As someone who has owned those phones and has used, rooted, and ROMed other phones for friends, I can tell you that the root and bootloader unlock situation situation is terrible. The short answer is there will likely never be a rock solid root method (Mofo is lame) and certainly no ROMs coming this way. My previous phones have had amazing ROM support over the years and a reliable root method as well as an amazing bootloader unlock on the HD. Using the Turbo, initially I craved having root but that feeling subsided after some time (stock ROM is somewhat nice on this). When I finally realized I wanted to use Tasker and Titanium Backup to remove the bloatware, I felt high and dry by Verizon and now let's say I'm super pissed at the situation and really want root.
Verizon bloatware and updates:
Originally, I didn't care considering I love Motorola's implementation of Android but it wasn't long until I realized this isn't just a Moto phone, but a Droid one as well. The bloatware is unreal and needs to be disabled ASAP. The Command Center widget that some people have been going nuts over is actually really bad and uses a little fortune of your battery reserves. The Circle widget from the previous Droids is actually way superior; it is more attractive, just as useful, and is smooth unlike Command Center (4FPS animations). Let's just say I wished I had a Moto X 2014 over this strictly because of the Verizon situation on this phone. This doesn't just include bloatware, but updates as well. This was a struggle for me to wait for Lollipop on this thing because I've used Cyanogenmod 12.1 on my Razr Maxx HD. When Lollipop actually came, I was bored of it instantly because I've already used it in the past. When Android M comes out, I'm scared to see the wait for this phone. The Moto X 2014 will probably get it in a week or two and we will be waiting until at least March. Also, it is worth noting that some features are completely absent on this phone like User profiles. Thanks Verizon.
Moto software:
The custom Moto stuff on this phone is another story though. It is the reason to use a Motorola phone. Touchless control is handy, camera and flashlight gestures even handier, and being able to text and drive without looking at the phone is a nice touch. Moto Display is probably the crowned jewel of the software though. As a design critic, the interface is actually kind of ugly, but it is so damn useful and battery friendly. I seldom ever hit the power button. It was the only reason I could deal with Kitkat on this phone, it was the stuff that kept me intrigued coming from my Razr Maxx HD which never got the same Moto love.
Build quality/hardware:
The build of the phone is disappointing, even on the ballistic nylon variant. I doubt there is any metal on the outside of the phone, if so it is just metallic paint over plastic. The ballistic nylon is fun for a week but then you wish you still had a kevlar back. Don't get me wrong, I prefer this ballistic nylon WAY more than plastic and about as much as metal construction, but I have never enjoyed a material like I have kevlar. Kevlar is smooth and provides the perfect grip, as well as surprisingly good protectiveness. I doubt this phone will withstand many drops like my Razr Maxx HD, that phone took multiple screen-first asphalt drops. This was due to it's front edges that extended slightly over the screen. This is ALMOST absent on the Turbo, the screen edges extend only very slightly to protect the screen. Speaking of the screen, the screen is quite good. It is very clear and colorful although not as color accurate as I would have liked. AMOLED burn is present on this phone but only barely. Also, I MISS ONSCREEN BUTTONS SO MUCH. The camera is really excellent at taking pictures of still moments in good lighting. In low light, it is slightly above average and takes pretty grainy shots. The weak point of the camera is the speed of it; not the wait after you take the picture but the speed it can handle. It cannot take a moving picture to save its life. As a final point, the speaker is absolutely terrible. It is front-facing but it is so damn quiet. I digress with MKBHD, "It's not the best front-facing speaker but I'd take it over any rear-facing speaker". I'd take the extremely loud rear-facing speaker on my Razr HD Maxx over this quiet one any day. I've never realized how important speakers are to me on a phone until now. The only redeeming quality is that because it is so quiet, it has decent nuance and hardly ever distorts.
Performance:
I think this is easily the fastest phone I have ever used. It was pretty fast on Kitkat but I'm pretty damn sure it's even faster on Lollipop. This thing is a speed beast and it really shows. I thought nothing could ever be faster than the G2 on Cyanogenmod but this phone proves that notion wrong. It puts every other phone to shame, even the Galaxy S6 and the iPhone 6. Maybe this phone is on par with the S6 in performance or slightly worse, but this phone still came out way earlier. It also scores 54,000 on Antutu in case you were wondering. It was 50,000 on Kitkat.
Battery Life:
This is a mixed bag. It's better than other phones but I've been spoiled by some other phones that I've used. I got anywhere between 2-5 hours of screen-on-time with Kitkat. With Lollipop, I'm getting 4-5 and it's been somewhat consistent. Most people on forums have been posting battery stats of this phone and they have been getting 5-7 consistently. It doesn't help that this phone has terrible standby time. I can go to sleep with 15% left and it will be dead when I wake up. My case may be irregular so take this with a grain of salt. I may perform a factory reset in the future and see how that fares. However, the Turbo charger is truly glorious and charges this phone really fast. It has been a life saver countless time and I'm happy it came in the box. It also supports wireless charging. I've used it a few times but I prefer the faster Turbo charger.
Overall:
I've mentioned the Razr HD Maxx many times, I know I know, but in my experience with the Turbo...it hasn't been that good when compared to my old phone. The reason I don't go back is because of the speed, fantastic camera (in good lighting only), "actual" AMOLED screen that is also much clearer (the older Droid phones don't seem to be true AMOLED), and added Moto features. And also because I gave the old phone to my girlfriend...
Recommendation:
If your work phone is going to also be your daily driver, I might suggest getting a personal phone as well. The Moto X 2014 is really appealing to me. Strangely enough, owning the Turbo has made me crave the Nexus 6 like something fierce, and I have small hands which is strange. The Nexus 6 has better build quality, better software and updates (excluding Moto goodies) , much better speakers, possibly better battery life, and most of all ONSCREEN BUTTONS; it's just a matter of adjusting to size and having a slightly worse camera albeit kind of faster camera. If you actually do enjoy the Turbo with its awesome speed, nice camera, great Moto additions, pretty screen, above average battery life, mediocre build quality, slow updates, lack of root, and lame speakers then I have another recommendation. Install Google Now Launcher and activate it as your default launcher. The latest Google Play Music update added free music stations so I would use that as a music player. Use Google Keyboard (should be default keyboard already) and set the appearance to Material Dark. Activate Hangouts as your default SMS app. Go into settings and configure the Moto software. Deactivate the lock screen (set it to none) because you don't want to unlock your phone twice. Activate developer options and set transition animation scale to .5x. Finally deactivate the Verizon bloatware: Amazon, Amazon app suite, Amazon Kindle, Amazon Music, Appstore, Audible, Caller Name ID, Cloud, Command Center, Droid Zap, Email, Family Base Companion, IMDb, Message+ (actually not a bad app), Mobile Hotspot, Motorola Flip Case, My InfoZone, NFL Mobile, Quickoffice, Slacker Radio, Support & Protection, Verizon Location Agent, and VZ Navigator.
Now I think that is all you possibly need to know about the Droid Turbo.
Thanks, the turbo was my pick, I had very few higher end options. Basically just the turbo, s5 and the note 3. I've been a Samsung fan boy for a while now, but I owned the razrm and enjoyed the experience. Mind you I waited over a year for root. But the happiness of boot loader unlock came with it.
Root seems to be rare in all phones these days. And my next phone may have to be bought out of pocket. But for now this one looked like it deserved a try. From the razrm to this will be an amazing speed increase and from 700 megs to 3000 megsnof ram Motorola has room to grow. My razrm could barely handle kitkat. Could not handle lollipop.
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Thanks, the turbo was my pick, I had very few higher end options. Basically just the turbo, s5 and the note 3. I've been a Samsung fan boy for a while now, but I owned the razrm and enjoyed the experience. Mind you I waited over a year for root. But the happiness of boot loader unlock came with it.
Root seems to be rare in all phones these days. And my next phone may have to be bought out of pocket. But for now this one looked like it deserved a try. From the razrm to this will be an amazing speed increase and from 700 megs to 3000 megsnof ram Motorola has room to grow. My razrm could barely handle kitkat. Could not handle lollipop.
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I don't think you'll be disappointed. Although LOLLIPOP does have some glitches that people are a little upset about, this phone is the top of the line by far. My friend has the note 4 and we both ran benchmark tests. My turbo was on kitkat and his on lollipop and still this phone won by about 7,000 . I would definitely recommend this phone to anyone, even with the glitches of lollipop which will hopefully be addressed soon.