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Should I make the Switch? HTC One to X

So I'm trying to decide. Should I make the switch from my Verizon HTC One to the Moto X? I really like the look and sound output on the HTC One. But I like the "close to stock" the Moto X has. Is the sound output on the Moto X decent? I use my phone for music in the car a lot.
I'm having some weird data/reception issues on the HTC One, and battery life isn't the greatest. Plus I really like the idea of active notifications!!
Do you think root will come quicker on the Moto X than on the HTC One? Remember, I'm on Verizon.
Thanks for any input!

I switched from the one. Very happy. Sound isn't quite as good but it's not something I can't deal with

I agree. Other than the entire facing speakers there isn't a signal thing that I thought the one did better.

Did you notice a big difference in screen quality?
I'm thinking either the moto x or the g2.

dmbfan13 said:
Did you notice a big difference in screen quality?
I'm thinking either the moto x or the g2.
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I honestly noticed no difference in quality, but there was a few days between the two. I like the screen. My favorite part about it is I can use the phone as a clock at night...there's no glowing black screen, just the time and the rest is 100% dark. I guess they had to do that for the active notifications, but it's a pretty nice lil' side effect.
I wouldn't touch a g2 with a stick. I hate overlays (sense, touchwiz, etc) and that one looks particularly terrible.

OK cool, thanks for the reply!! That's really the only thing making me hesitate on the G2, is the overlay. Does look pretty bad!! But I like the bigger screen and high specs...
Decisions, decisions...

i dumped my htc one for the motox.
my hands are happy. the htc shape and button placement was terrible.

See, I think the One is a fine phone...many consider it the best of the best...and it's pretty nice. But, I do like the stock experience, the better reception and the active notifications.

Personal choice of course, but I think the Moto X feels much better in hand. Also, I hate the One's custom software. It was just weird and super fugly

I went from the HT Cone (my funny name for it) to the Moto X.
I personally find the Moto X screen quite inferior compared to the One. Note however that the X screen is very good, but it's not as good at the One. There is major discoloration if I'm not looking at the phone dead-on. So, viewing angle is very limited.
Since few others are complaining about this, I wonder if there's a problem with my actual device.
But, to answer your actual question, yes you should switch.
A few reasons I prefer the X over the One:
- better size
- better call quality
- better reception
- stock rom is 8,000,000,000 times better than the stock Sense rom
- better battery life for almost everyone (not me yet, though)
- active notifications better than the stupid tiny LED (I hated that 1 atom-sized LED that would flash once every 17 minutes)
- for me, already most photos are better on the X versus the One (and I think camera improvements are soon coming)
- normal android navigation buttons (goodbye stupid One back and home only)

I've got both, they're both pretty great.
One:
Pros:
* Aluminum is great, so is the curved body
* Front speakers are phenomenal
* Display looks terrific
* There is a google play edition!
* Camer works great in low light and elsewhere
Cons:
* The buttons are the dumbest decision ever
* Sense is pretty bad for the non google play edition
* Camera has low resolution
Moto X:
Pros:
* Feels absolutely terrific in hand
* SOFTWARE BUTTONS!!!!
* Customization
* Loud Speaker
* Dimple in the back!
* Touchless control and camera gesture
Cons:
* AT&T logo and AT&T Address book.......
* Locked down tighter than fort knox on AT&T
* Camera is not good
* Pricing is a bit iffy
* Moto Support is clueless
It's hard to go wrong.

Anyone feel like the X is growing long in the tooth?

I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
MOTO X

Sorry, can't agree less...AOSP is the best, I will never go back to anything else. Everyone else spends so much time packing in all of these other apps and features that are worthless to 95% of their users. As a result, updates are slower and in most cases never even happen. Our little guy here will always be up to date with the latest and greatest that Google can whip up.
I will admit that the display size (and resolution) leaves a bit to be desired, coming from one of the most beautiful displays I've ever seen on a phone (DNA). Not a deal breaker for me.
At any rate, the truth is that every single person on this forum has a different "ideal" device from everyone else. If you feel like you want something else that's OK...it's the inevitable reality considering there is always something newer and better out there.
I love this phone and will happily wear it out until I'm due for an upgrade next June.
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OK that's fine. I'm not one to shout down a person who doesn't agree with me. Its not that I love the bloat of other OS but the colors of say the LG G3 or maybe a white version of our current vanilla
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i don't want a bigger screen and android can be customized to look and perform as you like.
moto x is not aging and i won't feel bad about keeping mine if moto comes out with a bigger one for the x+1.

I'm actually really surprised. My last 4 android phones have been rooted and customized. I love my moto X with stock 4.4.2. I would like to root it and use XPOSED but I'm very happy with it as is.
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Oh and I am still really impressed with the speed of the Moto X. I was a little worried after seeing the specs but this thing flies and I get virtually no lag.

I don't know what it is. I'm intrigued by the lg g3 but who knows I probably won't make the switch. I have to actually see it and use it
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Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.

a yes and no
well, i come from a sony device in which i used to change roms every week (i know what u r thinking, but yes i had a lot of free time)
that is one of the things i am missing in Moto X (i haven't rooted it yet)
yes the stock rom is not that exciting with a lot of features but that makes the X fly..
i am ok with the stock rom..

If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.

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If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.
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+1 I was using HKThemeManager and you can find different themes if you look hard enough. I had my drop down notification look like the gs5 with its color scheme and various other themes. But I decided to go back to stock.
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someguyatx said:
Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.
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Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
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For my use and preference the Moto X is the absolute best phone on the market. I have the opportunity to buy the latest and greatest if I choose to do so and yet I am completely unimpressed by:
-what is on the market today
-the fact that no OEM is focusing on reducing bezel size drastically or improving ergonomics in any meaningful way except Moto with their X line.
-Screen
I've already decided for my eyesight, viewing distance and hand size the 4.7 inch screen is perfect. Anything bigger and I find it harder to use Swype keyboard (I tend to be humble about most things but I'm a very fast Swyper). The max I would go with is 5 inch screen ONLY IF bezels are RIDICULOUSLY small, even smaller than Moto X. Theoretically you could fit a 5 inch screen on a phone the size of the Moto X. But nobody is focusing on this. There still isn't a phone on the market with thinner side bezels than Moto X.
-Active notifications.
Could I live without it? Probably. Do I want to? Nop.
-Touchless controls
I could live without it.
Moto X is the perfect form factor and because vertical scrolling fluidity and frame drops are a problem with Android OS and not the hardware, I don't find that Galaxy S5, HTC M8 are any smoother or faster than my debloated X. At all. I've done side by side comparisons.
For me Moto X is the perfect form factor/weight/feature set. If the next Moto X model to be released is a lot bigger, I will just buy another Moto X as a spare. I like iphone as well (I switch back and forth a lot, the customizability via jailbreak tends to put Android to it's knees but that's a tough pill to swallow for most people here) but I wasn't impressed by the iphone 6 leaks (bezels are not thinner than the 5/4s wth!) AND the fact that iphone doesn't have an official swype (still doable via touchpal and jailbreak but not nearly as good) is kind of a deal breaker for me. Swype is how I learned how to use smartphones. You would probably drool over my speed typing with swype or laugh at my clumsiness with two finger tapping. I feel like an idiot tap typing one handed on an iphone it's SOOO bloody slow

With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
Sent from my Nexus 10

rocketsaucev2 said:
With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
Sent from my Nexus 10
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There are already software systems in place to avoid this in ipad air due to it's small(er) bezels. It's just an algorithm that takes things like current orientation and digitizer inputs to decide whether it will ignore that input or not.
All it does is ignores your thumb inputs while you hold the device with let's say your right hand. 4 fingers are supporting the back of the device and the thumb is clamping the screen. The thumb input is ignored by the OS which then turns it's attention to the hand that you are intending on navigating the OS with (left hand in this case).
Given a very small bottom bezel the size of Moto X's would avoid that issue. And Moto X's bottom bezel is friggin tiny! :laugh:

AndreaCristiano said:
Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
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Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.

AndreaCristiano said:
I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
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Could not disagree more.
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kj2112 said:
Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.
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My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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AndreaCristiano said:
My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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Link?

kj2112 said:
Link?
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To the app?
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AndreaCristiano said:
To the app?
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I'd use an app like that that doesn't drain battery. Honestly, never heard of one. ?

Ok- So I am not getting the advantage of the MOTO X

Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,

aaronc_98 said:
Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
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I can't say about the new one yet. But I know by the old one. I left my nexus 5 for dead once I started using this phone made me go from a nexus 5 32gb to a 16gb motox I still won't switch back and I have one gig of storage left.
I haven't felt the new one yet. But this phone just feels right in your hand. But I've heard the m8 is sort of like that too.
Might sound stupid but the touch less control is something that becomes the way it should be. Would be weird to not have it but I see Google doing this eventually in all phones.
The one thing that I would really go crazy with is ..this phone wakes up when you pull it out a your pocket. I haven't touched the power button to wake in 8 months. I grab my wife's Iphone expecting to wake.
Really I think how apple amazes millions with some great features, design with low specs and great feel and usability of hardware and software is what the moto x has that maybe other androids do not. You just have to use it for a while and you will see. I hope th new one isn't to large for the feel factor or that will be negated and the software will not be worth it. It is the whole package combined that makes this phone great. Only the voice recognition is the best of any phone otherwise it does nothing the best but everything combined it is the best overall.....oh yeah in my op lol

the X is about just "refining" Android.
I also had a Nexus 5 and once I played with an X I bought one and put my Nexus 5 up for sale. I just got a new 2014 and software wise find it more refined. The only issue I have is that the 2013 was already so good and smooth the 2014 does not really add much, if anything, to it.
The X is for those that want Nexus experience, flagship specs, and great hands free controls. I get by with an 8GB device, if i could but 16 is as small as you can get. I feel that ANYONE that uses an SD card is just poor with data management. Odds are most of your music you load up you don't actually listen to regularly. if you are keeping FULL TV seasons on your phone to watch unless you are traveling thats pointless, you can just load a few eps to get through that day. Same with multiple movies with high bitrates.
I have all the apps I need, and I still have 10GB left. I have 3GB Data, that I pay $64/mo for and I NEVER go over it and I stream Google Music and Pandora in my car when driving to clients all the time. I also get company email and Gmail. I update apps over Mobile Data, and download Podcasts. My photos auto upload to g+. I tether my laptop on occasion. I can not see how anyone can go over 3GB unless you are also torrenting or doing a LOT of social media videos and photos. The closest I have come is 2.7GB in the last 18 months.
People say they need storage because they don't have Unlimited Data. You don't need unlimited data. You just need to not be stupid with your data. I know people that pay more than I do (by like $25-30) and don't get the same amount of data I do just because they refuse to show around carriers.
/rant

I agree with that too about storage. I've felt the M8 and it does feel very nice in my hands but I hate HTC Sense. It ruins the Android experience for me.

aaronc_98 said:
Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
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how is the One M8 faster than the Moto X? both use the same chipset. i feel the Moto X is just as fast or faster than most of the skinned Android phones. for the screens, both are using different technologies. each will have their pitfalls
Moto X is mainly for those who want some added (useful) functionality on top of stock Android. if you like Sense, then stick with the One. if you want stock with some added things, Moto X. if you want just stock, then Nexus is the way to go. choices are good :good:

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how is the One M8 faster than the Moto X? both use the same chipset. i feel the Moto X is just as fast or faster than most of the skinned Android phones. for the screens, both are using different technologies. each will have their pitfalls
Moto X is mainly for those who want some added (useful) functionality on top of stock Android. if you like Sense, then stick with the One. if you want stock with some added things, Moto X. if you want just stock, then Nexus is the way to go. choices are good :good:
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I do like Sense- it has gotten so much better. I also love Nexus because of the all the development, so maybe I will give it a few more days to make a decision. I have the bootloader unlocked and root, so I know some good thing will be coming from the talented devs.

As someone who has owned both my opinions differ.
I find the Moto X 2014 much much faster and smoother than the M8. Even with the M8 running AOSP. ActiveDisplay is just awesome, its a little thing but it really is useful. The Moto X 2014 is easier to hold/use, and doesn't have a ridiculous power button located in a ridiculous spot. (My biggest dislike of the M8). While the M8 structure is beautiful and feels great, I didn't find it comfortable to hold/use. Sense 6 is beautiful but I didn't find it offered any actual value or features that I cared about or ever actually used.
Not that it takes much but the Moto X camera, while still lagging behind, is still far better than that crap 4up camera that HTC loves so much.
The Moto X does not really shine in any one way, it doesn't leap out in the crowd, its just a great phone to use.

Motorola seems to be the only Android manufacturer who actually cares about user experience. I downgraded from a Nexus 5 to the 2013 Moto X last year because it offered a much better experience. I upgraded to the 2014 Moto X this year and am not waiting for the Nexus. If you've never owned a Moto before you won't realize everything you are missing.
Moto X offers the following improvements for me:
-Active Display - HUGE plus if you've never used it
-Touchless Controls - I use this constantly in the car and at home when I'm working
-Moto Assist - great for when I am in meetings all day to silence my phone and auto reply
-Shake to activate camera - very underrated feature but if you're trying to take photos in a snap it's extremely handy
-Wave to wake phone to check notifications and silence calls - again underrated but works beautifully
-Bluetooth unlock when my 360 is connected so I don't have to type in my PIN
-Moto Migrate to keep all of my existing data seamlessly
-As close to stock as possible with these helpful additions
Also other considerations:
-Exceptional build quality - although M8 also has extremely good build quality
-Motorola is one of the only companies that actually pays attention to cell signal and reception and is superior, my Moto X 2013 hands down had better signal than my N5, 2014 is great for signal too, HTC Notoriously bad for signal
-Audio noise cancellation - the sound quality when recording and on a call is much better than other phones I have used. Moto X 2013 was FAR superior to N5 in this regard, I don't have a M8 to compare but consider it
-FAST upgrade time, we will be one of the first to get Android L - This is huge for me

I suppose a good answer will be when android L comes out, X should have it quick (of course lenovo taking over and Soni gone could change that) whereas HTC will probably be 6+ months behind because they have to retro fit the junkwear onto the new OS.

Who the hell wants skinned android L????! Not me!

Previous phone: Nexus 5
Current phone: Pure version Moto X on T-Mobile network
Comparison:
Con: touch sensitivity does not seem as good. Using swipe gestures in Nova Launcher I never had to repeat a swipe on the Nexus 5, but I occasionally do on the Moto X. I noticed there seems to be more of a lag when scrolling the screen on the Moto X. I set the phone to use ART instead of Dalvic and it seemed to help some, but the touch response still has a perceptible delay.
Pro: Voice command works well, even in noisy environments
Reception is improved
Speaker phone loudness and clarity is multiple times better. It is good and plenty loud.
IR sensors and software work great.
Screen is a little bigger, which I like.
Voice command to toggle silent mode is handy.
Battery life seems the same, or maybe slightly better.
UPDATE: I switched from Nova launcher to the Google Now Launcher, and the touch lag I mentioned in the Cons section above is no longer noticeable.
Con: I think the handoff from WiFi to cellular is not a smooth transition. The phone tries to hang on a weak WiFi signal to long before it switches to cellular, and I do have 'avoid poor connections' selected in the WiFi advanced options.
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Thanks for all the comments. I had not given the X a real chance so I did, and I do love the active display and voice commands- very unique, good expereince, but HOW could Moto put a 2,300mah battery in this? The battery was flat by 2:30 under moderate use. I guess we need a UV kernel and some good battery tweaks ASAP.
I do really like the screen too, the blacks are so black, and the colors pop, almost too much... And it does just feel good in your hand.
I will give it a few more days to see how battery life occurs...
thanks,

I just picked up the new x an I also have the m8. I'm really liking the x so far never had anything besides HTC I still have my m8 tho.
Edit I been on mine all day now it has not got hot at all. Running real smooth

To comment on the battery life. Yes it's not AMAZING, probably my only complaint with the device, but it works as advertised. With fairly heavy use my first full day of charge, everything turned on, here was my usage pattern:
-Bluetooth, Wifi, and Location On
-Approx 11 hours connected to Wifi and about 8 hours using 4G
-Google Now On
-Brightness Auto
-Streaming music for approx. 1.5 hours
-GPS in use for approx. 20 min
-Screen on time just over 3 hours
-Total time until battery died almost 19 hours
That for me is much better than my original X. I have to charge the phone once a day anyway. That type of usage pattern is moderate to heavy and lasted from when I woke up to when I went to bed.

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To comment on the battery life. Yes it's not AMAZING, probably my only complaint with the device, but it works as advertised. With fairly heavy use my first full day of charge, everything turned on, here was my usage pattern:
-Bluetooth, Wifi, and Location On
-Approx 11 hours connected to Wifi and about 8 hours using 4G
-Google Now On
-Brightness Auto
-Streaming music for approx. 1.5 hours
-GPS in use for approx. 20 min
-Screen on time just over 3 hours
-Total time until battery died almost 19 hours
That for me is much better than my original X. I have to charge the phone once a day anyway. That type of usage pattern is moderate to heavy and lasted from when I woke up to when I went to bed.
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This is promising to me. I have been only htc flagship phones since day 1. On my m8 I can got 26 hours heavy use from full to dead. An I was worried bout battery on this phone but everything else I read made me jump ship an try the new moto. I'm really liking the phone since I picked one up yesterday...

[Q] Switching to Moto X 2014?

Is there anyone who made this move already, dumping the Razr i for a 2014 Moto X? I'm considering this step heavily at the moment but I'm really worrying about switching to a much larger phone.. I love the dimensions of the XT890 really.
I would love to hear about the experience of anyone who already switched, or the openion of anyone who is considering it currently like me..

I don't have moto x and wish Motorola would release a best competitor for Xperia 3 Compact. Moto X was very good but 2nd Generation it's just too big for me

Now that you mention, a couple of months ago it was claimed that Motorola will release maybe eight phones till the end of this year? I'm not sure about the actual number but it was something like that.. and yeah, a thin phone about 12.5-13cm height would be just perfect.
Still,I feel the new X quite tempting, I think I could get used to its size. I did not yet see it in person though..

my brother have moto x , and my voice can activate moto x, and the face unlock is unlocked by my face.. lol
so voice chip of moto x sucks

i just switched to Galaxy S5 with 5.1 inch FullHD.
After one day of usage i will never go back to Razri because of the screensize and resolution.
ManoBros said:
my brother have moto x , and my voice can activate moto x, and the face unlock is unlocked by my face.. lol
so voice chip of moto x sucks
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maybe you and your brother are twins

Did the jump to Moto X(2014).
It's BIG and I have small hands. Nearly sent it back after two days.
But now after a week I am getting used to it and don't want to go back.
It's fast, smooth, the voice commands are great (taking a call while being in the shower).
The build quality feels awesome.
Try it for your self but beware it takes a while to get used to it.

ZhaLinth said:
Did the jump to Moto X(2014).
It's BIG and I have small hands. Nearly sent it back after two days.
But now after a week I am getting used to it and don't want to go back.
It's fast, smooth, the voice commands are great (taking a call while being in the shower).
The build quality feels awesome.
Try it for your self but beware it takes a while to get used to it.
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oh, Motorola UK made the decision easier for me. I placed the order for the new X on Cyber Monday and they cancelled it because it was paid by a non-UK debit card. No hard feelings, "their country, their rules.." as I learnt in Switzerland
I'll keep the Razr i for now (I have small hands too and I love its form factor) and I might get a Sony Z3 Compact one day (or its successor), we'll see..

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oh, Motorola UK made the decision easier for me. I placed the order for the new X on Cyber Monday and they cancelled it because it was paid by a non-UK debit card. No hard feelings, "their country, their rules.." as I learnt in Switzerland
I'll keep the Razr i for now (I have small hands too and I love its form factor) and I might get a Sony Z3 Compact one day (or its successor), we'll see..
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I just jumped from the RAZR I to the z1 compact. As I did get a moto g but sold that and went back to the RAZR I. But at the start of this month a was feed up with the RAZR I but like its size so ended up getting the Sony z1c and so glad I did its the same size as the RAZR I just a bit thicker.
And to be honest there is such a difference. Ie RAZR I 2ghz 1 core Sony z1c 2.2ghz 4 core.
Also the entire Sony Z range is awaiting a aosp 5.0 update starting early 2015.
Don't get me wrong there are down side's to the z1 z1c z2 z3 and z3c. Main one for me being the glass back. As a result it well only stay still on a flat surface even on a slight angle it just slides. (Meaning I can't lean my phone agents things on a table/side board as it just slips over.
IMO although a 20.7 mp camera I think the RAZR I camera is better don't get me wrong on the z1c the picture is very crisp BUT when zoomed they become blurred more so then on the RAZR I which is only 8mp. This said the Sony camera stock app has so many features such as AR shot, motion shot, time shift and so on.
Every day use is so much faster and smoother on the z1c apart from again the camera which loads faster on the RAZR I although using time shift on the z1c is as fast as burst on the RAZR I. But 20 shots on z1c and 10 on the RAZR I again IMO the razr I burst gives better images.
Look and feel.
Apart from the glass back there really is no difference between the RAZR I and the z1c. ( I know the z3c is slightly bigger)
And IMHO for a device the same size be it the z1c or the slightly bigger z3c when it comes to mini phone's there is no other mini phone that comes close the the z1c/z3c in spec. lG G3s and Samsung galaxy s4 mini are half the spec. Where the z1c and z3c are the same spec as the full size z1 and z3.
Overall
I think if you are OK with the glass back (I got a case)
Then you can't at the moment you can't get a better replacement then the z1/3c in the same size as the RAZR I
This is just my opinion!!!
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I doubt I'll ever buy another Motorola phone after being a fan over 10 years. Starting with the locking of the bootloader on my OG RAZR, and the dismal lack of updates on the entire RAZR line, I'm done. If I ever come back to Android, it will probably be to a company that both promises and delivers upgrades and support. Maybe Sony, maybe Nexus.
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Not to mention disabling the FM radio. Total BS.

kjozsa said:
oh, Motorola UK made the decision easier for me. I placed the order for the new X on Cyber Monday and they cancelled it because it was paid by a non-UK debit card. No hard feelings, "their country, their rules.." as I learnt in Switzerland
I'll keep the Razr i for now (I have small hands too and I love its form factor) and I might get a Sony Z3 Compact one day (or its successor), we'll see..
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For the record, I'll receive my Z3C on Monday. See you Motorola, maybe I'll be back one day.

kjozsa said:
For the record, I'll receive my Z3C on Monday. See you Motorola, maybe I'll be back one day.
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You will not be disappointed. And your z3c will get aosp 5.0 b4 RAZR I gets 4.4.2
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ZhaLinth said:
Did the jump to Moto X(2014).
It's BIG and I have small hands. Nearly sent it back after two days.
But now after a week I am getting used to it and don't want to go back.
It's fast, smooth, the voice commands are great (taking a call while being in the shower).
The build quality feels awesome.
Try it for your self but beware it takes a while to get used to it.
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Did the same jump (Razr i --> Moto X 2014). I have big hands and love the bigger screen ; ) Voice commands are not for me.
What persuaded me never to go back is the Active Display! It is really superior to a notification LED even though it took a while to get used to the missing LED. Just hold your hands in the proximity of the phone and the notification/clock screen will light up. And if there are notifications, the screen will actually pulse on and off unless the phone is in your pocket ...

sideawake said:
Did the same jump (Razr i --> Moto X 2014). I have big hands and love the bigger screen ; ) Voice commands are not for me.
What persuaded me never to go back is the Active Display! It is really superior to a notification LED even though it took a while to get used to the missing LED. Just hold your hands in the proximity of the phone and the notification/clock screen will light up. And if there are notifications, the screen will actually pulse on and off unless the phone is in your pocket ...
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I made the jump to the Sony Z3 Compact (orange one). I love it's size, performance, battery and the incredible build quality of the product a lot, and I really do miss the AMOLED display. Regardless, I consider it to be an excellent decision.

I made the jump to OnePlus One, I don't regret a single thing about it but what happened to me today made me love my razr i, you've gotta read this, although most of you won't believe it but still it is worth telling.
It ocurred to me that the battery wasn't working well in the razr so I fired Antutu and started a stability test as I was relaxing at the pool. I left my phone under a little space that the table has (by the pool). My mother who is 70% blind moved the table to the otherside of the pool while she was cleaning it. The phone fell into the almost empty pool while running the stability test and it WENT INTO THE FILTER (THE ONE USED TO CLEAN THE POOL, SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH). Luckily the filter has a previous filter without entering the water bomb that saved the phone. One hour later I come by the pool again to pick the phone and it just wasn't there, I saw the table had been moved so I asked my mom and she said she didn't know where the phone was. It ocurred to me it might be over the side of the pool, by the grass or the trees so I searched for it and I saw the light through one of the filter holes that is supposed to show the moment that you have to clean it, YES, THE PHONE WAS RUNNING THE STABILITY TEST AT 93% COMPLETION, I WAS SHOCKED....
The camera doesn't work, neither does the volume up button, one hour of water, absoultely incredible.
MOTOROLA, MAKE MORE OF THIS DAMN GOOD PHONES PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASEEEEEEE.
I just wished I had bought the Moto X or the Droid MAXX.....

Anything I should know?

Work is supplying me with this phone on Monday, I am relatively sure they will update it before giving it to me. So no root for now.... Even if it isn't I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the current root methods.
Anything I should know about the phone?
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It's pretty fast and powerful.

Root situation:
I'm an owner of this phone for about two months now, coming from the Droid Razr Maxx HD and the Droid Razr before that. As someone who has owned those phones and has used, rooted, and ROMed other phones for friends, I can tell you that the root and bootloader unlock situation situation is terrible. The short answer is there will likely never be a rock solid root method (Mofo is lame) and certainly no ROMs coming this way. My previous phones have had amazing ROM support over the years and a reliable root method as well as an amazing bootloader unlock on the HD. Using the Turbo, initially I craved having root but that feeling subsided after some time (stock ROM is somewhat nice on this). When I finally realized I wanted to use Tasker and Titanium Backup to remove the bloatware, I felt high and dry by Verizon and now let's say I'm super pissed at the situation and really want root.
Verizon bloatware and updates:
Originally, I didn't care considering I love Motorola's implementation of Android but it wasn't long until I realized this isn't just a Moto phone, but a Droid one as well. The bloatware is unreal and needs to be disabled ASAP. The Command Center widget that some people have been going nuts over is actually really bad and uses a little fortune of your battery reserves. The Circle widget from the previous Droids is actually way superior; it is more attractive, just as useful, and is smooth unlike Command Center (4FPS animations). Let's just say I wished I had a Moto X 2014 over this strictly because of the Verizon situation on this phone. This doesn't just include bloatware, but updates as well. This was a struggle for me to wait for Lollipop on this thing because I've used Cyanogenmod 12.1 on my Razr Maxx HD. When Lollipop actually came, I was bored of it instantly because I've already used it in the past. When Android M comes out, I'm scared to see the wait for this phone. The Moto X 2014 will probably get it in a week or two and we will be waiting until at least March. Also, it is worth noting that some features are completely absent on this phone like User profiles. Thanks Verizon.
Moto software:
The custom Moto stuff on this phone is another story though. It is the reason to use a Motorola phone. Touchless control is handy, camera and flashlight gestures even handier, and being able to text and drive without looking at the phone is a nice touch. Moto Display is probably the crowned jewel of the software though. As a design critic, the interface is actually kind of ugly, but it is so damn useful and battery friendly. I seldom ever hit the power button. It was the only reason I could deal with Kitkat on this phone, it was the stuff that kept me intrigued coming from my Razr Maxx HD which never got the same Moto love.
Build quality/hardware:
The build of the phone is disappointing, even on the ballistic nylon variant. I doubt there is any metal on the outside of the phone, if so it is just metallic paint over plastic. The ballistic nylon is fun for a week but then you wish you still had a kevlar back. Don't get me wrong, I prefer this ballistic nylon WAY more than plastic and about as much as metal construction, but I have never enjoyed a material like I have kevlar. Kevlar is smooth and provides the perfect grip, as well as surprisingly good protectiveness. I doubt this phone will withstand many drops like my Razr Maxx HD, that phone took multiple screen-first asphalt drops. This was due to it's front edges that extended slightly over the screen. This is ALMOST absent on the Turbo, the screen edges extend only very slightly to protect the screen. Speaking of the screen, the screen is quite good. It is very clear and colorful although not as color accurate as I would have liked. AMOLED burn is present on this phone but only barely. Also, I MISS ONSCREEN BUTTONS SO MUCH. The camera is really excellent at taking pictures of still moments in good lighting. In low light, it is slightly above average and takes pretty grainy shots. The weak point of the camera is the speed of it; not the wait after you take the picture but the speed it can handle. It cannot take a moving picture to save its life. As a final point, the speaker is absolutely terrible. It is front-facing but it is so damn quiet. I digress with MKBHD, "It's not the best front-facing speaker but I'd take it over any rear-facing speaker". I'd take the extremely loud rear-facing speaker on my Razr HD Maxx over this quiet one any day. I've never realized how important speakers are to me on a phone until now. The only redeeming quality is that because it is so quiet, it has decent nuance and hardly ever distorts.
Performance:
I think this is easily the fastest phone I have ever used. It was pretty fast on Kitkat but I'm pretty damn sure it's even faster on Lollipop. This thing is a speed beast and it really shows. I thought nothing could ever be faster than the G2 on Cyanogenmod but this phone proves that notion wrong. It puts every other phone to shame, even the Galaxy S6 and the iPhone 6. Maybe this phone is on par with the S6 in performance or slightly worse, but this phone still came out way earlier. It also scores 54,000 on Antutu in case you were wondering. It was 50,000 on Kitkat.
Battery Life:
This is a mixed bag. It's better than other phones but I've been spoiled by some other phones that I've used. I got anywhere between 2-5 hours of screen-on-time with Kitkat. With Lollipop, I'm getting 4-5 and it's been somewhat consistent. Most people on forums have been posting battery stats of this phone and they have been getting 5-7 consistently. It doesn't help that this phone has terrible standby time. I can go to sleep with 15% left and it will be dead when I wake up. My case may be irregular so take this with a grain of salt. I may perform a factory reset in the future and see how that fares. However, the Turbo charger is truly glorious and charges this phone really fast. It has been a life saver countless time and I'm happy it came in the box. It also supports wireless charging. I've used it a few times but I prefer the faster Turbo charger.
Overall:
I've mentioned the Razr HD Maxx many times, I know I know, but in my experience with the Turbo...it hasn't been that good when compared to my old phone. The reason I don't go back is because of the speed, fantastic camera (in good lighting only), "actual" AMOLED screen that is also much clearer (the older Droid phones don't seem to be true AMOLED), and added Moto features. And also because I gave the old phone to my girlfriend...
Recommendation:
If your work phone is going to also be your daily driver, I might suggest getting a personal phone as well. The Moto X 2014 is really appealing to me. Strangely enough, owning the Turbo has made me crave the Nexus 6 like something fierce, and I have small hands which is strange. The Nexus 6 has better build quality, better software and updates (excluding Moto goodies) , much better speakers, possibly better battery life, and most of all ONSCREEN BUTTONS; it's just a matter of adjusting to size and having a slightly worse camera albeit kind of faster camera. If you actually do enjoy the Turbo with its awesome speed, nice camera, great Moto additions, pretty screen, above average battery life, mediocre build quality, slow updates, lack of root, and lame speakers then I have another recommendation. Install Google Now Launcher and activate it as your default launcher. The latest Google Play Music update added free music stations so I would use that as a music player. Use Google Keyboard (should be default keyboard already) and set the appearance to Material Dark. Activate Hangouts as your default SMS app. Go into settings and configure the Moto software. Deactivate the lock screen (set it to none) because you don't want to unlock your phone twice. Activate developer options and set transition animation scale to .5x. Finally deactivate the Verizon bloatware: Amazon, Amazon app suite, Amazon Kindle, Amazon Music, Appstore, Audible, Caller Name ID, Cloud, Command Center, Droid Zap, Email, Family Base Companion, IMDb, Message+ (actually not a bad app), Mobile Hotspot, Motorola Flip Case, My InfoZone, NFL Mobile, Quickoffice, Slacker Radio, Support & Protection, Verizon Location Agent, and VZ Navigator.
Now I think that is all you possibly need to know about the Droid Turbo.

Thanks, the turbo was my pick, I had very few higher end options. Basically just the turbo, s5 and the note 3. I've been a Samsung fan boy for a while now, but I owned the razrm and enjoyed the experience. Mind you I waited over a year for root. But the happiness of boot loader unlock came with it.
Root seems to be rare in all phones these days. And my next phone may have to be bought out of pocket. But for now this one looked like it deserved a try. From the razrm to this will be an amazing speed increase and from 700 megs to 3000 megsnof ram Motorola has room to grow. My razrm could barely handle kitkat. Could not handle lollipop.
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mrkhigh said:
Thanks, the turbo was my pick, I had very few higher end options. Basically just the turbo, s5 and the note 3. I've been a Samsung fan boy for a while now, but I owned the razrm and enjoyed the experience. Mind you I waited over a year for root. But the happiness of boot loader unlock came with it.
Root seems to be rare in all phones these days. And my next phone may have to be bought out of pocket. But for now this one looked like it deserved a try. From the razrm to this will be an amazing speed increase and from 700 megs to 3000 megsnof ram Motorola has room to grow. My razrm could barely handle kitkat. Could not handle lollipop.
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I don't think you'll be disappointed. Although LOLLIPOP does have some glitches that people are a little upset about, this phone is the top of the line by far. My friend has the note 4 and we both ran benchmark tests. My turbo was on kitkat and his on lollipop and still this phone won by about 7,000 . I would definitely recommend this phone to anyone, even with the glitches of lollipop which will hopefully be addressed soon.