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Seriously thinking to come back to One,need your advices

Hello!
So I switched from One to S4 last month because of the purple issue in camera,my French warranty didn't work here in Lebanon.
The S4 is a very nice phone but I missed ViperX roms and most of all the HTC Car app as no available apps in Play are so stable and practical.
And yes I use my phone all the time for music streaming in my car so I need a nice car app UI to prevent me to do an accident.
Also the Amoled screen of S4 is fantastic but I can't let say use GPS maps on it as it could make burnins (amoled thingy)
SD card memory even at class10 is way slower than the 32gb internal memory of the One.
So yes I am very tempted to go back to the One but this time with a local waranty.
I am just afraid to loose the 13mp post-zoom madness.
How many of you switched to another phone and switched back to the One??
Did you regret it?
No nor G2 nor Nexus 5 are interesting for me as both have lot of problems (g2 lack of roms and N5 poor hardwares)

Vote one ....quietly brilliant
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I switched to s4 after I bought the htc one...but it took only 8hours to realize that the one is much better)
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I used to have a Samsung Galaxy S3. Then it fell into the WC...:laugh:
When the S4 came out, I immediately bought it, just to find out that I spent so much money for a phone which did not feel as a real upgrade to me.
When the KNOX thing came to the S4 it felt much worse. Samsung was dead for me.
As a replacement I bought the HTC one and was very satisfied. Apart from the specs, it overtops the S4 in most situations.
Just little examples:
* No XXXXX MP camera. 4 MP with a better sensor. I'm no camera expert, but I cannot complain. Better photos on the One for me
* IR Remote has also learning capabilities, the S4 has just an IR sender, no receiver
* I love the way Sense looks. Touchwiz is soo standard that every launcher from PlayStore does better
* Aluminium body - that feels much more expensive than a plastic bomb
* S4 was also too big in a way. 5 inches should be the above limit for a smartphone. The One's 4,7'', however don't feel too small
* It has an FM radio. The S4 does not!
So these are just some points of my view.

Mmm now that you mentioned it, it will be slightly hard for me to return to a ''small ''4,7'' as my eyes are not perfect for close range.
Though if I remember well the One's screen is sharper so better looking wallpapers.
Sense 5.0 and 5.5 are so well build that you feel it's the perfect marriage between ios and Android while TW has not changed since SGS2.
I tried my ski gloves with the S4 screen + boosted sensitivity (glove mode) and it doesn't really work,you have to crush your finger on the screen to use it with gloves.
The only good thing on S4 is the smart stay though I am pretty sure we can clone it on the One.
Kernels were more advanced on the One when I left it that what we have now on S4.
Can you do the G2 knock knock thingy on the One with a custom kernel?

[Q] Moto X Dev vs. S4?

I currently have a Verizon Galaxy S4 on Mk2 build. That basically means it's a worthless piece of locked down crap. Sure I can use safestrap and stuff but in the end it just doesn't compare to having the ability to flash normally and have a unlocked phone. I'm thinking of buying a Moto X dev edition and selling my S4. Is there any reason I should abandon this idea? Is there anything you would recommend other than the Moto X for Verizon? Is there anything you have to say about the S4 or the Moto X? Thanks
The main reason I want to switch is A. touchwiz is terrible in my opinion, B. modded touchwiz is still bad, and C. I like that the Moto X is really close to stock android and even if I flash on the dev edition, it is covered by warranty.

No brained. X dev. Edition.
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I recently made the switch from an S4 I got at launch... my opinions as follows:
-The S4 has a beautiful screen, hands down. However, it's dimmer than the X and I've found that the S4 had a blue tint to the screen with whites. My X doesn't have the yellowing, so it's pretty close to an actual white. The X's screen is awesome for only 720p, no doubt.
-Form factor... definitely have to go with the X. It got annoying all the time trying to use the S4 single-handed, you'd have to reach for the moon in order to pull down the notifications. The X with a Speck Candyshell case fits in my hand perfectly and can operate with one hand.
-Call quality is much better with the X, the S4 wasn't bad though.
-The X has a louder earpiece and rear speaker, sounds much cleaner and clearer than the S4's rear speaker, which was oddly placed to begin with.
-Speed... no comparison. The X absolutely runs circles around the S4 stock-for-stock. The S4 was a little faster with a ROM like Hyperdrive, but the janking and lags made it a pain especially when you're in a hurry. My debloated X has ZERO lag or hesitation. Opens apps instantly, connects to calls quickly, no delaying when waking the phone.
-The camera is a little better on the S4, I will admit. However, the S3's camera trumps both the S4 and X. Not to say the X has a bad camera, but don't expect super "beautiful instagram" quality or whatever. If you want to take pics, go buy a digital camera, that's what it's made for.
-Battery life is a toss up right now because I haven't had the X activated for a full week yet, so the battery is still "breaking in", if you will. However it's getting better day by day. The S4's battery was a little bigger, but the phone wasn't optimized for power-efficiency like the X. I would imagine once the battery gets settled in, I'll get better life than I did with the S4.
-The X has the on-screen nav keys, so it takes some time to get used to. I still subconsciously go to hit the physical home button to wake the phone, only to realize I don't have one anymore... lol. I had the same issue when I transitioned from the Droid X to the Thunderbolt, physical keys to soft capacitive keys.
Last but not least... the Dev X is open for modding how YOU want, unlike the S4. I too was stuck on the MK2 base and hated life for the last couple of months. I honestly don't think that the damage Samsung caused in the recent updates will be reversed, and if it does, everyone will have moved on to the latest and greatest anyhow. So, go get yourself a Dev X, it's worth it.

triton302 said:
I recently made the switch from an S4 I got at launch... my opinions as follows:
-The S4 has a beautiful screen, hands down. However, it's dimmer than the X and I've found that the S4 had a blue tint to the screen with whites. My X doesn't have the yellowing, so it's pretty close to an actual white. The X's screen is awesome for only 720p, no doubt.
-Form factor... definitely have to go with the X. It got annoying all the time trying to use the S4 single-handed, you'd have to reach for the moon in order to pull down the notifications. The X with a Speck Candyshell case fits in my hand perfectly and can operate with one hand.
-Call quality is much better with the X, the S4 wasn't bad though.
-The X has a louder earpiece and rear speaker, sounds much cleaner and clearer than the S4's rear speaker, which was oddly placed to begin with.
-Speed... no comparison. The X absolutely runs circles around the S4 stock-for-stock. The S4 was a little faster with a ROM like Hyperdrive, but the janking and lags made it a pain especially when you're in a hurry. My debloated X has ZERO lag or hesitation. Opens apps instantly, connects to calls quickly, no delaying when waking the phone.
-The camera is a little better on the S4, I will admit. However, the S3's camera trumps both the S4 and X. Not to say the X has a bad camera, but don't expect super "beautiful instagram" quality or whatever. If you want to take pics, go buy a digital camera, that's what it's made for.
-Battery life is a toss up right now because I haven't had the X activated for a full week yet, so the battery is still "breaking in", if you will. However it's getting better day by day. The S4's battery was a little bigger, but the phone wasn't optimized for power-efficiency like the X. I would imagine once the battery gets settled in, I'll get better life than I did with the S4.
-The X has the on-screen nav keys, so it takes some time to get used to. I still subconsciously go to hit the physical home button to wake the phone, only to realize I don't have one anymore... lol. I had the same issue when I transitioned from the Droid X to the Thunderbolt, physical keys to soft capacitive keys.
Last but not least... the Dev X is open for modding how YOU want, unlike the S4. I too was stuck on the MK2 base and hated life for the last couple of months. I honestly don't think that the damage Samsung caused in the recent updates will be reversed, and if it does, everyone will have moved on to the latest and greatest anyhow. So, go get yourself a Dev X, it's worth it.
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Alright. Also I understand the X is close to stock android, but there wouldn't happen to be any stable AOSP roms for jellybean? I don't really like kitkat that much

SwiftLeeO said:
Alright. Also I understand the X is close to stock android, but there wouldn't happen to be any stable AOSP roms for jellybean? I don't really like kitkat that much
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Kitkit in my opinion is better then jellybean but if you don't like it you can still revert back to 4.2.2.
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Kitkit in my opinion is better then jellybean but if you don't like it you can still revert back to 4.2.2.
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Honestly i just hate the white battery. Reason I dont like my s4 is because of touchwiz...but mainly the green battery.

SwiftLeeO said:
Honestly i just hate the white battery. Reason I dont like my s4 is because of touchwiz...but mainly the green battery.
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Root and change battery icon with xbattery problem solved...
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Anyone feel like the X is growing long in the tooth?

I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
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Sorry, can't agree less...AOSP is the best, I will never go back to anything else. Everyone else spends so much time packing in all of these other apps and features that are worthless to 95% of their users. As a result, updates are slower and in most cases never even happen. Our little guy here will always be up to date with the latest and greatest that Google can whip up.
I will admit that the display size (and resolution) leaves a bit to be desired, coming from one of the most beautiful displays I've ever seen on a phone (DNA). Not a deal breaker for me.
At any rate, the truth is that every single person on this forum has a different "ideal" device from everyone else. If you feel like you want something else that's OK...it's the inevitable reality considering there is always something newer and better out there.
I love this phone and will happily wear it out until I'm due for an upgrade next June.
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OK that's fine. I'm not one to shout down a person who doesn't agree with me. Its not that I love the bloat of other OS but the colors of say the LG G3 or maybe a white version of our current vanilla
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i don't want a bigger screen and android can be customized to look and perform as you like.
moto x is not aging and i won't feel bad about keeping mine if moto comes out with a bigger one for the x+1.

I'm actually really surprised. My last 4 android phones have been rooted and customized. I love my moto X with stock 4.4.2. I would like to root it and use XPOSED but I'm very happy with it as is.
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Oh and I am still really impressed with the speed of the Moto X. I was a little worried after seeing the specs but this thing flies and I get virtually no lag.

I don't know what it is. I'm intrigued by the lg g3 but who knows I probably won't make the switch. I have to actually see it and use it
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Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.

a yes and no
well, i come from a sony device in which i used to change roms every week (i know what u r thinking, but yes i had a lot of free time)
that is one of the things i am missing in Moto X (i haven't rooted it yet)
yes the stock rom is not that exciting with a lot of features but that makes the X fly..
i am ok with the stock rom..

If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.

FSRBIKER said:
If your bored root it and install Xposed, Gravity box has almost every feature roms have ever had. There are Xposed modules to use themes also or install a rom that has the Theme Chooser built in if you want to change the look.
For me this is the first phone that killed my Rom Flashing addiction, with Xposed & Gravity Box I have everything I need and only use the Gravity Box features I need. Gone are the days of waiting/wiping/flashing/setting up my phone when a new nightly has been released. Now I have more time to find and use apps I really like and when I want a small change I buy a new Icon Pack.
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+1 I was using HKThemeManager and you can find different themes if you look hard enough. I had my drop down notification look like the gs5 with its color scheme and various other themes. But I decided to go back to stock.
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someguyatx said:
Yes I agree with you. While I am perfectly happy with the overall function of the X I am bored and ready to try something new. I used to be a flashaholic and going thru withdrawals. Also the camera sometimes pisses me off. I would miss active notifications and voice control though.
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Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
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For my use and preference the Moto X is the absolute best phone on the market. I have the opportunity to buy the latest and greatest if I choose to do so and yet I am completely unimpressed by:
-what is on the market today
-the fact that no OEM is focusing on reducing bezel size drastically or improving ergonomics in any meaningful way except Moto with their X line.
-Screen
I've already decided for my eyesight, viewing distance and hand size the 4.7 inch screen is perfect. Anything bigger and I find it harder to use Swype keyboard (I tend to be humble about most things but I'm a very fast Swyper). The max I would go with is 5 inch screen ONLY IF bezels are RIDICULOUSLY small, even smaller than Moto X. Theoretically you could fit a 5 inch screen on a phone the size of the Moto X. But nobody is focusing on this. There still isn't a phone on the market with thinner side bezels than Moto X.
-Active notifications.
Could I live without it? Probably. Do I want to? Nop.
-Touchless controls
I could live without it.
Moto X is the perfect form factor and because vertical scrolling fluidity and frame drops are a problem with Android OS and not the hardware, I don't find that Galaxy S5, HTC M8 are any smoother or faster than my debloated X. At all. I've done side by side comparisons.
For me Moto X is the perfect form factor/weight/feature set. If the next Moto X model to be released is a lot bigger, I will just buy another Moto X as a spare. I like iphone as well (I switch back and forth a lot, the customizability via jailbreak tends to put Android to it's knees but that's a tough pill to swallow for most people here) but I wasn't impressed by the iphone 6 leaks (bezels are not thinner than the 5/4s wth!) AND the fact that iphone doesn't have an official swype (still doable via touchpal and jailbreak but not nearly as good) is kind of a deal breaker for me. Swype is how I learned how to use smartphones. You would probably drool over my speed typing with swype or laugh at my clumsiness with two finger tapping. I feel like an idiot tap typing one handed on an iphone it's SOOO bloody slow

With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
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With smaller bezels you will just inadvertently bump the screen with your hand when reaching with your thumb
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There are already software systems in place to avoid this in ipad air due to it's small(er) bezels. It's just an algorithm that takes things like current orientation and digitizer inputs to decide whether it will ignore that input or not.
All it does is ignores your thumb inputs while you hold the device with let's say your right hand. 4 fingers are supporting the back of the device and the thumb is clamping the screen. The thumb input is ignored by the OS which then turns it's attention to the hand that you are intending on navigating the OS with (left hand in this case).
Given a very small bottom bezel the size of Moto X's would avoid that issue. And Moto X's bottom bezel is friggin tiny! :laugh:

AndreaCristiano said:
Well active notifications can be replicated by both peek and other apps. The voice control is the only thing I would miss
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Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.

AndreaCristiano said:
I love my Moto X and it's features this is actually my second. Although I'm starting to feel like its aging rapidly. Vanilla android is dull in its black color scheme and its starting to wear. Also the form factor is great but I am itching for a bigger screen. Oh and I really miss Qi charging ! Anyone else starting to feel like this?
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Could not disagree more.
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kj2112 said:
Peek is nothing like active display. You have 10 seconds after the notification to see it.
And full time active display apps will burn up the battery on a non moto x device.
Just for the record.
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My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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AndreaCristiano said:
My full active display app on my nexus 5 had no battery issues
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Link?

kj2112 said:
Link?
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To the app?
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AndreaCristiano said:
To the app?
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I'd use an app like that that doesn't drain battery. Honestly, never heard of one. ?

What DON'T you like about the 2014?

For those that now have their devices what do you not like?
For me there are 2 things..
1) I wish the screen was a little smaller. 5.0 would have been better IMO. I am just so used to using one hand to do everything on the screen that I now on occasion have to use two.
2) Changing DPI makes the stock Camera app crash and you can't make the Twist feature open the Google Camera instead.
I haven't found anything else yet that strikes me as a draw back.

that it doesnt have stereo sound, double sim card and sd card slot like the moto g 2014

i wish it had bigger storage capacity or an sd card slot. wireless charging would be appreciated as well. I don't have any problems with what the phone has but with what it doesn't have

Would have liked to have seen stereo speakers and a slightly larger battery, but neither is a huge concern. I'll still be getting this or maybe wait to see what the Nexus 6 brings.

No IR BLASTER. Conflicting reports on mhl out. Seems like a downgrade from my Note 3, but yet I still want it cuz it's new/different. Tough decision.

Leather had some dents in it on the back when I got it, speaker grills sticking up from the screen is a small agitation (it doesn't effect useage I just don't like it), Icons seem huge on this phone compared to any others I've had. Seems like the UI could've used a little more tweaking. Hoping for DPI adjustment in the future via root. Screen is "ok". Size is great, but the brightness/colors are meh.
Minimal things I don't like compared to what I do like, Overall I like it better than any other phone I have had this year (iPhone 6 plus, LG G3, m8, Lumia 930 to name a few). Hands down fastest real world usage of any phone I have used with or without Roms/kernels/etc..

Screen is a bit saturated.
Whites are a bit too warm.
Brightness at 100% is terrible in direct sunlight or a bright day.
Camera still needs some work.

The cheap vibration setup! There is no actual vibration to it, just a high pitched whine that sounds like something tearing itself up everytime it goes off. I also do not like how the grills stand up above the screen as someone else mentioned.

So far my only complaint is that the moto g is a fraction of the price and not that far off.
Also the camera does need work. A lot of work. Why can't we have a closer to iPhone 6 quality camera these days?
The moto voice is great. Just needs to be a little snappier.

No text that said Assembled in USA on the phone like the previous one.
Also so far the camera seems underwhelming for a flagship.
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krichek said:
The cheap vibration setup! There is no actual vibration to it, just a high pitched whine that sounds like something tearing itself up everytime it goes off. I also do not like how the grills stand up above the screen as someone else mentioned.
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This is a very intelligent design because like the last year Moto X it have protrusions to raise the screen off the surface, but this will only help in specific drop scenarios, it won't help all the time. And it prevents scratch when you put the phone face down.

knitler said:
For those that now have their devices what do you not like?
For me there are 2 things..
1) I wish the screen was a little smaller. 5.0 would have been better IMO. I am just so used to using one hand to do everything on the screen that I now on occasion have to use two.
2) Changing DPI makes the stock Camera app crash and you can't make the Twist feature open the Google Camera instead.
I haven't found anything else yet that strikes me as a draw back.
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For number 2, if you install xposed and app settings, you can change the DPI for the camera back to 480. I also noticed that the Active Display is off too. So you'll want to chance com.motorola.motodisplay back to 480 too.

Few more pet peeves, but not deal killer.
No Moto Skip (nfc unlock) support, at least not yet.
Micro USB jack doesn't have a satisfying click when you insert a connector.
Lowest brightness is not dim enough, stops dimmingat 8/100.
Still can't control my music or see weather updates via Active (Moto) Display.

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Few more pet peeves, but not deal killer.
No Moto Skip (nfc unlock) support, at least not yet.
Micro USB jack doesn't have a satisfying click when you insert a connector.
Lowest brightness is not dim enough, stops dimmingat 8/100.
Still can't control my music or see weather updates via Active (Moto) Display.
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i agree with music controls. at least have the play/pause, next and previous track symbols there. it won't take up that much more battery imo

Display - love the new high res dpi, but the saturation and yellow-ish white is so annoying.
Other stuff...are to some degree, hard to complain about. Yes, it's Motorola's flagship, but the cost is significantly lower than the other flagships. Does that justify the weaker camera and less future proof specs...I'm still debating.

For those who have both the 2013 and 2014 Moto X - how does the 2014 screen brightness compare to the 2013 when using outdoors?
All of the test data I have seen says that the 2014 X is dimmer than the 2013 X, which was barely bright enough for me. I use my phone outside a lot.

It's no longer quad band.

My main complaints are size is big (I like cases), lack of storage options or SDcard, lack of removable battery and lack of wireless charging, but I guess I can't complain too much coming from the galaxy nexus

Size is my biggest gripe.
Don't care about SD card storage as I think it's old tech now. Cloud streaming is the way forward.
Probably the poor camera.
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I wish Moto Maker came with metal backs.

The camera, although I think I've had better results with FV-5 and the stock Android camera app. Is it just me? Otherwise it seems way too grainy.
Also, Moto Voice doesn't seem to work in my car's bluetooth while the phone's in my pocket, as I have to bring the phone closer so it hears me. It'd be nice to use Moto X with bluetooth microphones.
Music control from the Moto Display would be awesome. And I think it would be neat to play playlists or artists from Google Play Music with Moto Voice, too, although I think that doesn't work because I'm on pt-BR)

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It'd be nice to use Moto X with bluetooth microphones.
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Settings>Language & Input>Voice Search>Bluetooth Headset - Records audio through Bluetooth headset if available.
My only complaints with mine so far are:
No date on Active Display, only on Lockscreen.
Camera can't focus on anything closer than 6", so no macro shots.
Camera FV-5 can't set ISO in camera but it can in video, while both were possible on the 2013.
I'm not a fan of the raised speaker grills, though they're there to help protect a face-down device's screen from scratches.
Moto Voice background is now a battery-eating blue instead of the black it was on 2013.

Ok- So I am not getting the advantage of the MOTO X

Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,

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Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
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I can't say about the new one yet. But I know by the old one. I left my nexus 5 for dead once I started using this phone made me go from a nexus 5 32gb to a 16gb motox I still won't switch back and I have one gig of storage left.
I haven't felt the new one yet. But this phone just feels right in your hand. But I've heard the m8 is sort of like that too.
Might sound stupid but the touch less control is something that becomes the way it should be. Would be weird to not have it but I see Google doing this eventually in all phones.
The one thing that I would really go crazy with is ..this phone wakes up when you pull it out a your pocket. I haven't touched the power button to wake in 8 months. I grab my wife's Iphone expecting to wake.
Really I think how apple amazes millions with some great features, design with low specs and great feel and usability of hardware and software is what the moto x has that maybe other androids do not. You just have to use it for a while and you will see. I hope th new one isn't to large for the feel factor or that will be negated and the software will not be worth it. It is the whole package combined that makes this phone great. Only the voice recognition is the best of any phone otherwise it does nothing the best but everything combined it is the best overall.....oh yeah in my op lol

the X is about just "refining" Android.
I also had a Nexus 5 and once I played with an X I bought one and put my Nexus 5 up for sale. I just got a new 2014 and software wise find it more refined. The only issue I have is that the 2013 was already so good and smooth the 2014 does not really add much, if anything, to it.
The X is for those that want Nexus experience, flagship specs, and great hands free controls. I get by with an 8GB device, if i could but 16 is as small as you can get. I feel that ANYONE that uses an SD card is just poor with data management. Odds are most of your music you load up you don't actually listen to regularly. if you are keeping FULL TV seasons on your phone to watch unless you are traveling thats pointless, you can just load a few eps to get through that day. Same with multiple movies with high bitrates.
I have all the apps I need, and I still have 10GB left. I have 3GB Data, that I pay $64/mo for and I NEVER go over it and I stream Google Music and Pandora in my car when driving to clients all the time. I also get company email and Gmail. I update apps over Mobile Data, and download Podcasts. My photos auto upload to g+. I tether my laptop on occasion. I can not see how anyone can go over 3GB unless you are also torrenting or doing a LOT of social media videos and photos. The closest I have come is 2.7GB in the last 18 months.
People say they need storage because they don't have Unlimited Data. You don't need unlimited data. You just need to not be stupid with your data. I know people that pay more than I do (by like $25-30) and don't get the same amount of data I do just because they refuse to show around carriers.
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I agree with that too about storage. I've felt the M8 and it does feel very nice in my hands but I hate HTC Sense. It ruins the Android experience for me.

aaronc_98 said:
Hello,
I have the HTC One M8 and a MOTO X. I know the X provides the Nexus like experience, but the One seems to be faster and better constructed and generally faster. From what I can tell the screens are about equal thought the X is warmer. They both have 32 GB storage but the One has Micro SD. I did not have the original X but I am not blown away by the user expereince of the X, what am I not understanding about how great this phone is supposed to be?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
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how is the One M8 faster than the Moto X? both use the same chipset. i feel the Moto X is just as fast or faster than most of the skinned Android phones. for the screens, both are using different technologies. each will have their pitfalls
Moto X is mainly for those who want some added (useful) functionality on top of stock Android. if you like Sense, then stick with the One. if you want stock with some added things, Moto X. if you want just stock, then Nexus is the way to go. choices are good :good:

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how is the One M8 faster than the Moto X? both use the same chipset. i feel the Moto X is just as fast or faster than most of the skinned Android phones. for the screens, both are using different technologies. each will have their pitfalls
Moto X is mainly for those who want some added (useful) functionality on top of stock Android. if you like Sense, then stick with the One. if you want stock with some added things, Moto X. if you want just stock, then Nexus is the way to go. choices are good :good:
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I do like Sense- it has gotten so much better. I also love Nexus because of the all the development, so maybe I will give it a few more days to make a decision. I have the bootloader unlocked and root, so I know some good thing will be coming from the talented devs.

As someone who has owned both my opinions differ.
I find the Moto X 2014 much much faster and smoother than the M8. Even with the M8 running AOSP. ActiveDisplay is just awesome, its a little thing but it really is useful. The Moto X 2014 is easier to hold/use, and doesn't have a ridiculous power button located in a ridiculous spot. (My biggest dislike of the M8). While the M8 structure is beautiful and feels great, I didn't find it comfortable to hold/use. Sense 6 is beautiful but I didn't find it offered any actual value or features that I cared about or ever actually used.
Not that it takes much but the Moto X camera, while still lagging behind, is still far better than that crap 4up camera that HTC loves so much.
The Moto X does not really shine in any one way, it doesn't leap out in the crowd, its just a great phone to use.

Motorola seems to be the only Android manufacturer who actually cares about user experience. I downgraded from a Nexus 5 to the 2013 Moto X last year because it offered a much better experience. I upgraded to the 2014 Moto X this year and am not waiting for the Nexus. If you've never owned a Moto before you won't realize everything you are missing.
Moto X offers the following improvements for me:
-Active Display - HUGE plus if you've never used it
-Touchless Controls - I use this constantly in the car and at home when I'm working
-Moto Assist - great for when I am in meetings all day to silence my phone and auto reply
-Shake to activate camera - very underrated feature but if you're trying to take photos in a snap it's extremely handy
-Wave to wake phone to check notifications and silence calls - again underrated but works beautifully
-Bluetooth unlock when my 360 is connected so I don't have to type in my PIN
-Moto Migrate to keep all of my existing data seamlessly
-As close to stock as possible with these helpful additions
Also other considerations:
-Exceptional build quality - although M8 also has extremely good build quality
-Motorola is one of the only companies that actually pays attention to cell signal and reception and is superior, my Moto X 2013 hands down had better signal than my N5, 2014 is great for signal too, HTC Notoriously bad for signal
-Audio noise cancellation - the sound quality when recording and on a call is much better than other phones I have used. Moto X 2013 was FAR superior to N5 in this regard, I don't have a M8 to compare but consider it
-FAST upgrade time, we will be one of the first to get Android L - This is huge for me

I suppose a good answer will be when android L comes out, X should have it quick (of course lenovo taking over and Soni gone could change that) whereas HTC will probably be 6+ months behind because they have to retro fit the junkwear onto the new OS.

Who the hell wants skinned android L????! Not me!

Previous phone: Nexus 5
Current phone: Pure version Moto X on T-Mobile network
Comparison:
Con: touch sensitivity does not seem as good. Using swipe gestures in Nova Launcher I never had to repeat a swipe on the Nexus 5, but I occasionally do on the Moto X. I noticed there seems to be more of a lag when scrolling the screen on the Moto X. I set the phone to use ART instead of Dalvic and it seemed to help some, but the touch response still has a perceptible delay.
Pro: Voice command works well, even in noisy environments
Reception is improved
Speaker phone loudness and clarity is multiple times better. It is good and plenty loud.
IR sensors and software work great.
Screen is a little bigger, which I like.
Voice command to toggle silent mode is handy.
Battery life seems the same, or maybe slightly better.
UPDATE: I switched from Nova launcher to the Google Now Launcher, and the touch lag I mentioned in the Cons section above is no longer noticeable.
Con: I think the handoff from WiFi to cellular is not a smooth transition. The phone tries to hang on a weak WiFi signal to long before it switches to cellular, and I do have 'avoid poor connections' selected in the WiFi advanced options.
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Thanks for all the comments. I had not given the X a real chance so I did, and I do love the active display and voice commands- very unique, good expereince, but HOW could Moto put a 2,300mah battery in this? The battery was flat by 2:30 under moderate use. I guess we need a UV kernel and some good battery tweaks ASAP.
I do really like the screen too, the blacks are so black, and the colors pop, almost too much... And it does just feel good in your hand.
I will give it a few more days to see how battery life occurs...
thanks,

I just picked up the new x an I also have the m8. I'm really liking the x so far never had anything besides HTC I still have my m8 tho.
Edit I been on mine all day now it has not got hot at all. Running real smooth

To comment on the battery life. Yes it's not AMAZING, probably my only complaint with the device, but it works as advertised. With fairly heavy use my first full day of charge, everything turned on, here was my usage pattern:
-Bluetooth, Wifi, and Location On
-Approx 11 hours connected to Wifi and about 8 hours using 4G
-Google Now On
-Brightness Auto
-Streaming music for approx. 1.5 hours
-GPS in use for approx. 20 min
-Screen on time just over 3 hours
-Total time until battery died almost 19 hours
That for me is much better than my original X. I have to charge the phone once a day anyway. That type of usage pattern is moderate to heavy and lasted from when I woke up to when I went to bed.

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To comment on the battery life. Yes it's not AMAZING, probably my only complaint with the device, but it works as advertised. With fairly heavy use my first full day of charge, everything turned on, here was my usage pattern:
-Bluetooth, Wifi, and Location On
-Approx 11 hours connected to Wifi and about 8 hours using 4G
-Google Now On
-Brightness Auto
-Streaming music for approx. 1.5 hours
-GPS in use for approx. 20 min
-Screen on time just over 3 hours
-Total time until battery died almost 19 hours
That for me is much better than my original X. I have to charge the phone once a day anyway. That type of usage pattern is moderate to heavy and lasted from when I woke up to when I went to bed.
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This is promising to me. I have been only htc flagship phones since day 1. On my m8 I can got 26 hours heavy use from full to dead. An I was worried bout battery on this phone but everything else I read made me jump ship an try the new moto. I'm really liking the phone since I picked one up yesterday...