Upgrading To Moro X? - Moto X Q&A

I'm in the market for a new phone but am picky when it comes to choosing one. I made the thread in the Moto X forum because it's one of my go to choices. Here's what I'm looking for:
I have a lot of music (8GB) and little data so no cloud storage, must be on the device or SD card. 16GB or under will not work with ~8GB of music and some apps I'm looking at 2 free GB for future use.
I'm going to use this phone for the next 2-3 years
Must be usable with one hand - I hate huge phones and am really disappointed with manufacturers not providing any devices for the niche market that want high end specs in a mid size device. I'm forced to look at mid range phones or flagship phones from years back when they were smaller. The Moto X feels great in the hand however and works good with one handed usage.
I'd like a good camera and this is where the Moto X starts to worry me. I'm not printing any shots or making posters but if I can get a phone that has a better camera compared to the Moto X for the same price, I'd like that more.
1) Has the camera update really helped?
2) Has Kit Kat really helped?
3) What about using Google Camera app instead of the Motorola Camera app?
My budget is around $300 so if I choose the Moto X it would need to be the 32GB version and I'd need to wait a little bit for the price to get down to what I can afford, possibly when the X+1 comes out.
I'm thinking about either the Moto X or the S3. The S3 is the absolute biggest size I'm willing to hold with one hand, the N5 is too big. Before you say the S3 is 2 years old and is nearing the end of its life I will mention that I do not need a current flagship device. I text, make calls, listen to music, and browse the web on a smart phone. No videos, no games, nothing high tech. To this I say, why do I need anything more modern than an S3? Sure there's 1080p screens today and quad core CPUs and 3GB of RAM but I'm merely texting. My Galaxy Ace can text if I need it to.
The reason I'm liking the sound of the S3 is because of its superior camera compared to the Moto X. If anyone can convince me otherwise though, I'm open for other phone suggestions or if the camera on the X is better than I think it is I'm willing to wait for the price to go down. I will not be using the Moto X for its features 'ok Google Now' or driving mode or anything else.
Most important: size, memory, camera.

I can do some comparison pictures for my step father's s3 and my Moto X. I'll try and remember.
32GB Moto X meets all your needs albeit I suspect the S3 has a better camera indeed. I was the original owner of that s3 so I have some experience with it.
It's fast.
It's the perfect size.
Active notifications is godly.
Screen is great if you enjoy amoled screens.
Also, I do some hi-fi listening and own audiphone grade digital audio players like Fiio X5 and Hifiman HM700, Theorem 720 DAC/Amp and corresponding higher end headphones in the $300 to $1k range. The Moto X sounds decent to be honest. I even prefer it to my iphone 5 which as per technical specifications should be superior to the Moto X (flat frequency response and lower THD supposedly).

scorpion667 said:
I can do some comparison pictures for my step father's s3 and my Moto X. I'll try and remember.
32GB Moto X meets all your needs albeit I suspect the S3 has a better camera indeed. I was the original owner of that s3 so I have some experience with it.
It's fast.
It's the perfect size.
Active notifications is godly.
Screen is great if you enjoy amoled screens.
Also, I do some hi-fi listening and own audiphone grade digital audio players like Fiio X5 and Hifiman HM700, Theorem 720 DAC/Amp and corresponding higher end headphones in the $300 to $1k range. The Moto X sounds decent to be honest. I even prefer it to my iphone 5 which as per technical specifications should be superior to the Moto X (flat frequency response and lower THD supposedly).
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It's a great phone but the camera is a bummer from what I've seen. Do you mind posting some photos comparing the S3 and the Moto X when you get the chance? I'd appreciate it.

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[Q] Hesitant between s4 mini and moto x?

hi, so to introduce myself, I've been a nexus s user for quite some time.
I've now decided that it is time to change phones, and having been with the small nexus s form factor I find it difficult to continue in the nexus line since I would be getting into 5" phones (nexus 5)... even the nexus 4 seems a bit too big for my taste.
That's why I've been on the fence concerning a couple of phones, notably the s4 mini, the one mini, and of course, the moto x.
The reason I post this in the moto x forum is because I am leaning favorably towards the moto x, so I'd like to know what you all think.
here are my very general pros/cons for each phone:
one mini: pros - very aesthetically pleasing design
cons - there seems to be poor development
s4 mini: pros - very small form factor!! bigger screen for the same size as my old nexus s
- also extremely light!
- there seems to be some development
cons - moto x seems better (its lacking the moto x pros, haha)
moto x: pros - its the closest phone to a 'nexus phone', without being one
- its getting 4.4 soon, so I feel like it will probably get more timely updates
- all of its cool gimmicks (customization, touchless control, active notifications, double twist camera)
- i've read about great battery life and perfomance
- i probably wouldn't even want a custom rom if i get Xposed
cons - it may be a bit big? 4.7 seems like a stretch for me
Overall I don't think the one mini is really a true contestant, I just keep it there because I love the design. However between the s4 mini and the moto x I find myself really doubting. I've held an s4 mini and it is really, really light and very very comfortable in the hand. I haven't (and won't have) the chance to hold a moto x so I won't have an element of comparison for the form factor. Care to help me out?
I'd like to hear about your opinions on this! Thanks!
It's not even a competition. CMON MAN!!! S4 mini really?
Buy the Moto X ... you should not even consider that s4 mini thing.
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4.7 is a good size for many people and it feels great in the hand. The X is a very friendly and familiar feeling phone to come to from the Nexus devices in terms of a stock Android experience.
To me, it comes down to the following question -- "Do I want the unique features of the Moto X enough to pick it over Y Phone?" It seems like you value a smaller form factor phone and 4.3" screen more than many of us here would (in fact, I personally wouldn't mind if the X were slightly bigger). The Active Notifications, Always On Voice Command, MotoMaker customizations, and so on are truly what set the X apart from anything else.
I think you really should find a way to get an X in your hand before you commit to it. Do you have a Walmart or Best Buy nearby to demo one? You also have a 14 day (30 in California) trial period at least if you buy it from Motorola. If you find it is too big, simply contact customer support and return it, no questions asked.
If you buy the S4 mini, you get:
cruddy cpu and overall laggy and stuttery performance
cruddy gpu and overall laggy and stuttery performance
cruddy 540p display and bad viewing angles and colors
a small and light phone
extremely slow updates
If you buy the moto x, you get:
decent cpu with exceptional performance
great gpu with exceptional performance
mediocre 720p display with very good color reproduction
a very solid feeling phone that fits in your hand
updates almost as fast as GPE phones
I don't know if this even needs any thinking...it looks like a no-brainer to me
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additionally, moto x has (in order from most useful to least useful):
active notifications
dual antennae LTE (MIMO)
fast wifi (support for ac bands)
touchless controls
really good battery life
a cool dimple that makes the phone super comfortable to hold
that's no S4 mini.. tha'ts a Samsung Victory 2 in disguise.. do the moto x
8_8 said:
4.7 is a good size for many people and it feels great in the hand. The X is a very friendly and familiar feeling phone to come to from the Nexus devices in terms of a stock Android experience.
To me, it comes down to the following question -- "Do I want the unique features of the Moto X enough to pick it over Y Phone?" It seems like you value a smaller form factor phone and 4.3" screen more than many of us here would (in fact, I personally wouldn't mind if the X were slightly bigger). The Active Notifications, Always On Voice Command, MotoMaker customizations, and so on are truly what set the X apart from anything else.
I think you really should find a way to get an X in your hand before you commit to it. Do you have a Walmart or Best Buy nearby to demo one? You also have a 14 day (30 in California) trial period at least if you buy it from Motorola. If you find it is too big, simply contact customer support and return it, no questions asked.
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You are probably the only one who understood that the actual dilemma for me is the size. I wont be able to hold one because I live in france. Im planning on ordering it, having it shipped to France and then sim-unlocking it.
Anyway thanks for everyone's unanimous point of views. I think im going to take the leap in size barrier and go with ghe moto x!
Its going to be soo nice to have a new great phone!! I can't tell you how sluggish, laggy and poor in battery life my nexus s is...

Moto X 4.4.3 "Improved Camera Quality" Claims True?

So can anyone confirm or deny this?
I don't believe I have any images to take a picture of now and compare with side by side.
If anyone has any to provide, please do so. :good:
i was wondering the exact same thing
Low light pictures have definitely improved in my opinion.
Groid said:
Low light pictures have definitely improved in my opinion.
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Same opinion here. The camera update is a good one.
rupterr said:
Same opinion here. The camera update is a good one.
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SO is the camera of the Moto X now at par with the competition like Nexus 5 or Galaxy S4 etc?
aadi007 said:
SO is the camera of the Moto X now at par with the competition like Nexus 5 or Galaxy S4 etc?
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LOL that escalated quickly. I don't think it can get as good as that of s4 with just an S/W update. S4's hardware is also better.
DaRkRhiNe said:
LOL that escalated quickly. I don't think it can get as good as that of s4 with just an S/W update. S4's hardware is also better.
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Ok, what abt N5 then?
aadi007 said:
Ok, what abt N5 then?
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S4.....no way !!!! S4 camera is amazing
But moto x camera update can fight with Nexus 5 camera for sure.
Btw...the moto x flash led is really really really enhanced.
^ Thanks guys..
I have experience with Nexus 5 but have never used a Moto X.
I am not looking for the best camera smartphone but Nexus 5 camera is good enuff for me.... I use my DSLR when I need better performance or quality.
So, its reassuring to know what Moto X camera is at par with N5..
I was confused whether to get a N5 or MotoX ,, I m more inclined towards the Moto
Hold on, isn't Nexus 5's camera pretty awful? After using the S4 for pretty long I can say it has an okay camera, a very good for a mobile phone's perspective though. S4 is leaps and bounds ahead of N5 right?
I think the Moto X sits in between them?
Looks like now we are close to N5. Neither Moto X or N5 are good in the camera department in my opinion, but then again both had to keep costs down not like the S4.
It looks to me like this update claims are valid. It doesn't make the camera a brand new one (for instance the moto x still has trouble with white balance, and two quick pictures of the same subject can have two different color temperatures), but it definitely shows improvements.
aadi007 said:
^ Thanks guys..
I have experience with Nexus 5 but have never used a Moto X.
I am not looking for the best camera smartphone but Nexus 5 camera is good enuff for me.... I use my DSLR when I need better performance or quality.
So, its reassuring to know what Moto X camera is at par with N5..
I was confused whether to get a N5 or MotoX ,, I m more inclined towards the Moto
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Having had both the Nexus5 and MotoX at the same time I have been asked to compare the two many times. The best way to describe them in comparison I've found is this:
The MotoX is a great value phone with minimal lag and amazing features that truly make a smartphone smart.
The Nexus5 is the smallest computer I've ever had with no lag whatsoever, very nice vibrant screen and when necessary it makes phone calls too.
Camera wise, I took multiple pictures with both phones back to back and in low light the Nexus always won. This was a few updates ago and now I only have the MotoX so I can't compare with 4.4.3... but like I said I only have the MotoX.
P.S. with the limited information we have on the X+1 it seems as though we might be getting the best of both worlds. Might be worth the wait.
DBBGBA said:
Looks like now we are close to N5. Neither Moto X or N5 are good in the camera department in my opinion, but then again both had to keep costs down not like the S4.
It looks to me like this update claims are valid. It doesn't make the camera a brand new one (for instance the moto x still has trouble with white balance, and two quick pictures of the same subject can have two different color temperatures), but it definitely shows improvements.
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Don't know about other places but in India, the N5 costs as much as the S4.
Moto X costs around 15-20% less.
About the camera of N5, I find it adequate for the purpose...it's not that good but will serve me fine.
I haven't seen the Moto X..And here in India, Motorola has a unique sales strategy where all their phones are available thru only one online retailer. SO, you can't go to a retail shop and try it.
I am inclined to buy the Moto X as long as the camera is decent .. I mean if it matches N5 in camera, that 'll be fine for me.
As per earlier reviews, it seems N5 camera is better than Moto X. So, I wanted to find out if the Moto X has improved after the updates and it now matches the N5 in camera.
Cheers.
aadi007 said:
Don't know about other places but in India, the N5 costs as much as the S4.
Moto X costs around 15-20% less.
About the camera of N5, I find it adequate for the purpose...it's not that good but will serve me fine.
I haven't seen the Moto X..And here in India, Motorola has a unique sales strategy where all their phones are available thru only one online retailer. SO, you can't go to a retail shop and try it.
I am inclined to buy the Moto X as long as the camera is decent .. I mean if it matches N5 in camera, that 'll be fine for me.
As per earlier reviews, it seems N5 camera is better than Moto X. So, I wanted to find out if the Moto X has improved after the updates and it now matches the N5 in camera.
Cheers.
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Go for it!! You will not regret. It truly lives up to the word "Smartphone"
SymbioticGenius said:
The Nexus5 is the smallest computer I've ever had with no lag whatsoever, very nice vibrant screen and when necessary it makes phone calls too.
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I disagree about the N5 being able to make phone calls. I went through 11 Nexus 5's due to major issues with call quality. Build quality was poor too as 2 of my replacements had dead pixels. Also the SIM tray on some of them didn't sit flush against the body.
It's the main reason why I replaced it with the Moto X.
Camera wasn't great but neither is the one in the Moto X. They're both average.
Didn't have any build quality issues on my Nexus and I was day 1 order (most of whom did have issues). If I went through 11 phones for call quality I'd look into a different carrier cause the strength of the Motorola radios might be masking the fact that your carrier sucks.
Your post however did remind me that the screen on the Nexus was incredibly bright and didn't produce an actual black but more of a gray and the speaker was horrid... Still, smallest PC I've ever had and better that most tablets I've seen for my usage
Ordered the Moto X finally... waiting for it impatiently now
aadi007 said:
Don't know about other places but in India, the N5 costs as much as the S4.
Moto X costs around 15-20% less.
About the camera of N5, I find it adequate for the purpose...it's not that good but will serve me fine.
I haven't seen the Moto X..And here in India, Motorola has a unique sales strategy where all their phones are available thru only one online retailer. SO, you can't go to a retail shop and try it.
I am inclined to buy the Moto X as long as the camera is decent .. I mean if it matches N5 in camera, that 'll be fine for me.
As per earlier reviews, it seems N5 camera is better than Moto X. So, I wanted to find out if the Moto X has improved after the updates and it now matches the N5 in camera.
Cheers.
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Well when it came out the S4 was way more expensive than the N5. I'm not surprised the price went down since the new S5 is out (plus in the US the S4 has a slower processor compared to the N5).
I'm checking right now on Amazon:
Samsung Galaxy S4 unlocked seems to average $425
Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Play edition (from the play store) $649
Nexus 5 straight from Google Play is $349
Moto X unlocked from amazon ~$315 while from the motorola website $400
The camera is decent on the Moto X. I'm a visual artist so I can tell you it's not gonna replace real cameras, but it's great for those family photos, events, outside landscapes. It takes a bit of time for it to adjust the colors to the correct light around you. You can wait a bit and snap a good pic or do it quickly and color correct it later. My roommate took amazing pictures of landscapes in Ecuador and she's technologically inept and knows nothing about waiting for the right picture. So I can assume with sunlight the camera works great.
It doesn't have any of the Samsung or LG gimmicks and auto functions. Which is fine for me since I like to shoot normal pic and edit them later.
I was thorn too because of the camera, but then I decided to get the moto X and I can tell you that there's so much more this phone does for me that I can definitely overlook the camera aspect. Plus I never really use my phone as my main camera, more like a backup in a pinch or to remember things so it worked out quite nicely.
omias said:
S4.....no way !!!! S4 camera is amazing
But moto x camera update can fight with Nexus 5 camera for sure.
Btw...the moto x flash led is really really really enhanced.
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You people are wrong, yet the galaxy s4 uses a 13mpx SONY RS sensor, lacks in low light conditions even further than moto X would, the omnivision sensor placed on moto x it's capable of shooting 2k-4k real videos, I think moto x camera need heavy efforts in development by lenovo in this case, they can achieve wide benefits from the clear pixel technology, some algorithms an improved camera app and a better image processing would put the moto X in the top of g
High end phones with great and no regrets cameras.
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You people are wrong, yet the galaxy s4 uses a 13mpx SONY RS sensor, lacks in low light conditions even further than moto X would, the omnivision sensor placed on moto x it's capable of shooting 2k-4k real videos, I think moto x camera need heavy efforts in development by lenovo in this case, they can achieve wide benefits from the clear pixel technology, some algorithms an improved camera app and a better image processing would put the moto X in the top of g
High end phones with great and no regrets cameras.
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Good info

Should i Buy the Moto x?

Hi guys, i'm not sure what to do. I Bought a Galaxy S4 four months ago and while it is quite a good phone, i broke the screen (it's pretty fragile) and after i changed the digitalizer, It's not the same anymore. Colors aren't as good as before, and also i got "ghost touches". I'm going to sell the S4 too because i want something more compact. While the 5 inch screen is great for use, i'm going to buy a 10" tablet so i would like something more compact as my primary phone, and for everything else i would have the tablet.
Now, i'm not sure what phone should replace my S4. I was wondering if the Moto G because i love how bright the LCD screen is, but the camera is a bit on the low (compared to S4), and G is a little bit chunky. The biggest pro is its price, just 200$ for 16GB version.
Another option for me was the Moto X. Is more compact, more refined and upscale than Moto G, 4.7" is the "sweet spot" for many, and have nice features like the active notifications, and touchless control. Moto X is at 300$ on Amazon right now. Supposedly both G and X are going to receive Android L update.
I used my S4 mainly for web-browsing. I can trow 20 tabs at once in Chrome and the Snapdragon 600 handles it pretty good. Also i occasionally use it for photos, mainly for documents from college. I love the contrast in AMOLED screens but i don't like how dim they are compared to LCD (Although newer AMOLED such as S5 features the best from both worlds).
Also I was wondering if this phone are too old, maybe there's a new Moto G coming, or what about Moto X.
What can you recommend me?
elestudiante said:
Hi guys, i'm not sure what to do. I Bought a Galaxy S4 four months ago and while it is quite a good phone, i broke the screen (it's pretty fragile) and after i changed the digitalizer, It's not the same anymore. Colors aren't as good as before, and also i got "ghost touches". I'm going to sell the S4 too because i want something more compact. While the 5 inch screen is great for use, i'm going to buy a 10" tablet so i would like something more compact as my primary phone, and for everything else i would have the tablet.
Now, i'm not sure what phone should replace my S4. I was wondering if the Moto G because i love how bright the LCD screen is, but the camera is a bit on the low (compared to S4), and G is a little bit chunky. The biggest pro is its price, just 200$ for 16GB version.
Another option for me was the Moto X. Is more compact, more refined and upscale than Moto G, 4.7" is the "sweet spot" for many, and have nice features like the active notifications, and touchless control. Moto X is at 300$ on Amazon right now. Supposedly both G and X are going to receive Android L update.
I used my S4 mainly for web-browsing. I can trow 20 tabs at once in Chrome and the Snapdragon 600 handles it pretty good. Also i occasionally use it for photos, mainly for documents from college. I love the contrast in AMOLED screens but i don't like how dim they are compared to LCD (Although newer AMOLED such as S5 features the best from both worlds).
Also I was wondering if this phone are too old, maybe there's a new Moto G coming, or what about Moto X.
What can you recommend me?
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Soon there will be successor to Moto X, every year theres a new model. Its running old processor though(S4 pro) but its very smooth
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The X and the G are both great phones! If you can afford the X, obviously its the better choice. But the G is nice too. Lacks the X features tho.
honestly u should def go with the moto x will will just be more satisfied I just got mines a few days ago I lucked up and got the dev model also unlock and I am loving it
and I both iPhone and android user believe me when I say I leave the 5s in the car many times this phone gets it done
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Soon there will be successor to Moto X, every year theres a new model. Its running old processor though(S4 pro) but its very smooth
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This is very true. The S4 Pro is the name that many chipsets from 2012 used, but the CPU and GPU are very much 2013 technology. The CPU is an S4 Pro (similar to N4), but it's got Krait 300 cores (same cores used in Snapdragon 600, N4's S4 used Krait 200 -- N5 uses Krait 400). GPU is Adreno 320 (same as used by N4 and GS4, N5 uses Adreno 330 -- for comparison). I think also worth noting is that the 720p screen will age better on these specs than a phone with a 1080p screen (in terms of how much HW muscle is required to push info to the display).
You probably know this info -- just trying to give the OP as much info as possible on their decision.
I use a Moto X and really appreciate it (again -- very smooth). It might be worth it to see if concrete info on the X+1 comes out soon, but if rumors are true it will be bigger, and will obviously cost a lot more (which certainly makes a difference if you are planning to purchase outright).
Where I live, you can get the Moto X 16GB for the same price for the Moto G 16GB, but the phone is really worth it. I bought my Moto X less than a week ago and I'm totally loving it, it's quick, feels great in the hand and never lags.
If you take too many pictures though, you might feel disappointed. The camera ain't bad, it just is not good (or not as good). The pohne will most likely get updated to Android L, since Moto is currently part of Lenovo, but I don't know if they'll keep it updated after Lenovo starts to taking control over Motorola.
TL;DR: If you find it for a good price, get the Moto X, if you can get anything with a Snapdragon 800, get that.

[Q] Moto X 2014 or Z3 Compact?

Hi, i'm planning to buy a new phone. Currently i've a Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100) and want something faster and updated.
After consider various options (phones features, prices, availability in my country) i reduced the list to the Motorola Moto X 2014 and the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact.
The things that interest me are:
Good audio quality and volume with headphones. I own a Sennheiser HD 429s headphones, wich have 32 ohm of impedance, so with the S2 i must use headphone amplifier (FiiO E6) for get more volume and "definition". My idea with a new phone is use the headphones without the amplifier (because the HD 429s have mic, and with the amplifier i cannot use)
Good Android support and fast updates. I think the Moto X is best on this point compared to the Z3C (pure Android & updates), but also know the Sony AOSP project and the efforts of Sony to bring Lollipop quickly.
Good community support and ROMs. I love to install ROMS and get the best of my device. Currently have CM10.2 on my S2. I think the Moto X will be better on this point
Powerful performance. Both devices have Snapdragon 801 @2.5 Ghz, so i think the performance is guaranteed. But ¿the customized UI on the Z3C affects the performance of the phone? ¿is best to performance getting pure Android, as on Moto X?
Good battery life and construction quality. I want to escape from all-plastic Samsung devices. Also, i don't want a big phone. The 5.2" screen and phone size of the Moto X is the maximum size that i can bear
So, what phone you recommend to buy guys? Someone have tested the phones with 32 ohm headphones?
Thanks.:good:
xsam123 said:
Hi, i'm planning to buy a new phone. Currently i've a Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100) and want something faster and updated.
After consider various options (phones features, prices, availability in my country) i reduced the list to the Motorola Moto X 2014 and the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact.
The things that interest me are:
Good audio quality and volume with headphones. I own a Sennheiser HD 429s headphones, wich have 32 ohm of impedance, so with the S2 i must use headphone amplifier (FiiO E6) for get more volume and "definition". My idea with a new phone is use the headphones without the amplifier (because the HD 429s have mic, and with the amplifier i cannot use)
Good Android support and fast updates. I think the Moto X is best on this point compared to the Z3C (pure Android & updates), but also know the Sony AOSP project and the efforts of Sony to bring Lollipop quickly.
Good community support and ROMs. I love to install ROMS and get the best of my device. Currently have CM10.2 on my S2. I think the Moto X will be better on this point
Powerful performance. Both devices have Snapdragon 801 @2.5 Ghz, so i think the performance is guaranteed. But ¿the customized UI on the Z3C affects the performance of the phone? ¿is best to performance getting pure Android, as on Moto X?
Good battery life and construction quality. I want to escape from all-plastic Samsung devices. Also, i don't want a big phone. The 5.2" screen and phone size of the Moto X is the maximum size that i can bear
So, what phone you recommend to buy guys? Someone have tested the phones with 32 ohm headphones?
Thanks.:good:
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Both are great devices. My brother in law bought a Z3 Compact just a month ago and I bought my Moto X 2 weeks ago, so I have tasted both devices .
A few points:
- Build quality: the Z3 Compact is nice, but by far the Moto X has a more premium build. The look and grip of the Moto X, for me, is the best in the Android market right now.
- Performance: the Moto X has the most fluid and best performance in the Android market, you can check that in every forum.
- Updates support: Motorola has been great in this. To be honest when I bought the phone (Moto X) I thought I would get the OTA in a couple days...its been 2 weeks and nothing. And for what I've read, Lollipop is quiet buggy yet, so better to wait a little bit hehehehehe
- Camera: in here i think the Z3 Compact wins. The Moto X camera is good enough, but not great.
- Battery life: to be honest I haven's asked my brother in law regarding his battery life with the Z3 Compatc. Regarding the Moto X, I've read that some people think is average-bad. In my case, I think is OK. I can make the whole day and plug it at night with 30-20% remaining, depending in how much time I play with Angry Birds Transformers hahahahahah
Overall my friend, both great phones! going from a Samsung S2 to any of this 2 phones will be a BIG BIG update for you, so you will enjoy both!
Cheers and congratz for your purchase (whichever you chose )
xsam123 said:
Hi, i'm planning to buy a new phone. Currently i've a Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100) and want something faster and updated.
After consider various options (phones features, prices, availability in my country) i reduced the list to the Motorola Moto X 2014 and the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact.
The things that interest me are:
Good audio quality and volume with headphones. I own a Sennheiser HD 429s headphones, wich have 32 ohm of impedance, so with the S2 i must use headphone amplifier (FiiO E6) for get more volume and "definition". My idea with a new phone is use the headphones without the amplifier (because the HD 429s have mic, and with the amplifier i cannot use)
Good Android support and fast updates. I think the Moto X is best on this point compared to the Z3C (pure Android & updates), but also know the Sony AOSP project and the efforts of Sony to bring Lollipop quickly.
Good community support and ROMs. I love to install ROMS and get the best of my device. Currently have CM10.2 on my S2. I think the Moto X will be better on this point
Powerful performance. Both devices have Snapdragon 801 @2.5 Ghz, so i think the performance is guaranteed. But ¿the customized UI on the Z3C affects the performance of the phone? ¿is best to performance getting pure Android, as on Moto X?
Good battery life and construction quality. I want to escape from all-plastic Samsung devices. Also, i don't want a big phone. The 5.2" screen and phone size of the Moto X is the maximum size that i can bear
So, what phone you recommend to buy guys? Someone have tested the phones with 32 ohm headphones?
Thanks.:good:
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Hi fellow chilean,
I have a moto x, I don't know about the audio output but my cons against the phone:
- Below average battery life (I have to plug it during the day to make it)
- Regular camera
The pros about z3:
-Is waterproof.
Good audio quality and volume with headphones: Neither is spectacular here, but both should do better than the Galaxy S2. The GS2 had pretty low output power so it struggled with headphones but was great if you were using an external amplifier. Both the Z3C and Moto X can output more power on their own. The Moto X has less noise, but has a strange drop-off in the bass frequency response around 100MHz.
Good Android support and fast updates: Moto X wins here at least based on historical data.
Good community support and ROMs: Right now, neither is particularly good for development. The Moto X 2013 didn't really get much ROM support until 4-6 months after release. I don't know much about the support history of Sony devices.
Powerful performance: Performance should be about the same. The Z3C's skin is not particularly heavy.
Good battery life and construction quality: Both the Z3C and the Moto X are well made. The Moto X might have the slight edge on construction quality, but the Z3C has the advantage of being waterproof. The Z3C is by far the winner on battery life. In PhoneArena's tests it actually got the best battery life of any current smartphone, while the Moto X is on the bottom as far as current phones go.
I have both devices. Audio is much better on the X (I'm a musician as well) camera is much better on the z3c. Battery life is FAR superior on the z3c. Honestly it's the best battery life I've seen on any device I've owned and I've owned countless devices. The only one I've owned that had battery life comparable was the OnePlus One.
The Moto X is much more snappy and fluid. I love the size of the z3c and it fits my hand perfectly and it's refreshing to have that much power in a "normal" size phone. But the X feels more natural in the hand and hugs it better..
When both were on 4.4.4 I was using my z3c as my daily driver then when lollipop dropped I switched to using the X again. I'm sure I'll go back to the z3c when 5.0 drops for it and am actually using it now because I shattered the screen on mine and have to send it for repair
Is size important to you? The z3c is similar size to last years X. The size difference between last year and this is noticeable, in both good and bad ways. Are you at all bought into the SONY environment? Have a playstation 4? The z3c has a sony media environment tie-in if that is a factor for you. I considered the z3c, but the more pure android environment and design of the X won for me.
Today I buyed the Moto X 2nd Gen. What a beast in performance! I'm really impressed with the speed and features of the phone. Sadly, can't play 24-bit flacs (despite the SD 801), but overall I'm very satisfied with my choice I choosed the X over the Z3 Compact because the Z3C have a quiet audio output with headphones compared to the X, and I read great reviews about Active Display and Moto Voice. Thanks to all!
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Today I buyed the Moto X 2nd Gen. What a beast in performance! I'm really impressed with the speed and features of the phone. Sadly, can't play 24-bit flacs (despite the SD 801), but overall I'm very satisfied with my choice I choosed the X over the Z3 Compact because the Z3C have a quiet audio output with headphones compared to the X, and I read great reviews about Active Display and Moto Voice. Thanks to all!
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Wellcome to the club man! great choice! enjoy.
PD: Im from Chile too and I have a tutorial to update it to Android 5. I didn't want to wait for Claro to release it (easily it will take them 2-3 more months). Anyways...let me know and I send you the tutorial via private message.

Moto X 2014 or Moto Play

Hey guys,
After a year of exploring Windows Phone i am coming back to android.
I just love the looks of Moto X 2014 bamboo edition and I am skeptical wether it would be a wise move, or just buy Moto Play.
The size and the bamboo, just make me love this phone, buy would you say is a good buy or just buy the Play which should be better in many aspects, although no bamboo and bigger size, that I don't like.
I have both. Honestly it's a hard call for me. Bouncing back and forth between devices, they both have their strong points. If size is your concern, then go with the 2014. Battery? XPlay. Premium feel? 2014. Camera? XPlay. Speed? They are around the same, though the XPlay has micro lags time to time. Expansion? XPlay. IR sensors? 2014. In some regards, the 3rd generation G performs better than the XPlay. Really it all boils down to what your explicit needs are.
Ok thanks. Do you really feel that camera improved that much?
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Ok thanks. Do you really feel that camera improved that much?
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Low light it still isn't as good as the g4, and s6, but overall, I find it worlds better. I'm not doing anything crazy, but overall I find it to be a marked improvement over the 2014.
The phone overall doesn't have that same feel of speed, but I'm not sure if that's something that will be fixed with kernel optimizations. Why exactly is it that you want a Moto device vs from another manufacturer?
great thanks,
i always liked Moto, from my Moto MIlestone.
LG: i tried LG G2 but i had a horrible experience with their customer service and sold all devices i had at home (tv, soundbar etc). Samsung and Sony, i dont like their interface. Huawei, i hate their interface. I love Stock Android, but Nexus is way too big...
This is my story, and that is why i tried Windows for about a year now, cause i wanted someting different...
Fekish said:
Hey guys,
After a year of exploring Windows Phone i am coming back to android.
I just love the looks of Moto X 2014 bamboo edition and I am skeptical wether it would be a wise move, or just buy Moto Play.
The size and the bamboo, just make me love this phone, buy would you say is a good buy or just buy the Play which should be better in many aspects, although no bamboo and bigger size, that I don't like.
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Hi,
I tested both and ended sending back the play and keeping the x 2014, here are the reasons:
- got the x 2014 32 gb on an amazon deal for 299 euros against the 350 for the play
- the play was just too big for me, 5,2 inches is the biggest I can deal with
- the play's buttons felt way too cheap, they were loose and rattled all the time, for me that was not acceptable
- the play hasn't got gyroscope (no photosphere pictures) or IR sensors, and waving at the phone to turn it on is really comfortable
- the x 2014 feels much sturdier
- the x 2014 is snappier, I could notice the microlags on the play
Battery life is much better on the play, but now I carry an external battery with me just in case. The camera is also better, but the one from the x 2014 isn't that bad. The play has a SD card slot but 32 GB is enough for my use. The play display is fine, but so is the x 2014's.
If storage, battery life and camera is important for you and you are OK with the size go for the play.
So there it is, hope it helped!
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so after playing with both phones, i am feeling that Moto X Play is way to big for me, and i dont feel that i have a special phone in my hand, whereas i had this feeling with Moto X 2014.
i just wish there was a phone like Moto X 2014 out there in the market, with a better camera, external sd card, and slightly better battery.
Now i am searching for another brand, and maybe i will leave Motorola because of this.
Fekish said:
so after playing with both phones, i am feeling that Moto X Play is way to big for me, and i dont feel that i have a special phone in my hand, whereas i had this feeling with Moto X 2014.
i just wish there was a phone like Moto X 2014 out there in the market, with a better camera, external sd card, and slightly better battery.
Now i am searching for another brand, and maybe i will leave Motorola because of this.
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HTC One m8 or M9.
In terms of speed, HTC M8 and Moto X are tie as far as I can tell. HTC One M8 is way prettier than Moto and feels better in hand than moto.
So I would say M8 > Moto X 2014.
M9 is almost identical to m8 except chips and camera.
Lots of people say M9> M8 . But considering the price, I love m8 better.
From my hands on experience with all major Android phones, the overall best one in 2014 is M8.
2015 best phone hands down to S6/S6 edge. It blows everything else away. And yes, the new touchwiz is NOT slow at all.

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