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Anyone heard anything about an official car dock?
First Sony phone for ages and I'm not sure if Sony tend to sell phone car docks. Suspect the magnetic charging pins are for power only - my old Galaxy Nexus had 3 pins, one of which is for data.
Sony has actually produced a fair few accessories this time around (some being universal, which is also a good thing).
However the car holder is just that - a holder. To me that seems rather stupid, as if you were going to use it as a SatNav (with the screen on) then you're going to either kill the battery while driving, or soon after.
Why couldn't Sony produce a holder that could charge via the pogo pins? Imagine how good that would be! Then include a smart tag (NFC) so that once you put the phone in the dock, it would connect to your car radio via Bluetooth and/or load up your SatNav software/Spotify or whatever.
And charging £40 is also a bit of a liberty if you ask me!
I hope we get a third party holder that does the above, and costs a bit less too.
jonmorris said:
Sony has actually produced a fair few accessories this time around (some being universal, which is also a good thing).
However the car holder is just that - a holder. To me that seems rather stupid, as if you were going to use it as a SatNav (with the screen on) then you're going to either kill the battery while driving, or soon after.
Why couldn't Sony produce a holder that could charge via the pogo pins? Imagine how good that would be! Then include a smart tag (NFC) so that once you put the phone in the dock, it would connect to your car radio via Bluetooth and/or load up your SatNav software/Spotify or whatever.
And charging £40 is also a bit of a liberty if you ask me!
I hope we get a third party holder that does the above, and costs a bit less too.
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agree thats a bit expensive for a holder, I just bought one on amazon for £14, which I'll modify to charge as well
Brodit
a couple of days ago I've contacted brodit if they could tell me a date when the holder for the Z1 would be available.
They told me it would take a couple of days.
gstadt said:
Anyone heard anything about an official car dock?
First Sony phone for ages and I'm not sure if Sony tend to sell phone car docks. Suspect the magnetic charging pins are for power only - my old Galaxy Nexus had 3 pins, one of which is for data.
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There is the official one...but it just holds it. I really want one that has a charge attached, I can deal with a cable down for the headphone jack, but I can't live without power. Sony really missed a trick on that one.
Especially with the magnetic charger port, and the fact they're even selling the cable separate to the dock in some regions. How hard to rig up this very lead to a car holder?
well I did not find any sony manufactured genuine car dock for Z1 at Amazon..there are some on ebay but not find one for Z1 and they are bit expensive too....and also found some from other vendors at Fommy...they have variety of docks with reasonable prices...
ilovemyZ1 said:
I found this genuine Sony car dock for the Z1. Looks pretty basic and personally I don't think it's worth the premium in price. Plenty of other generic ones out there unless you really must get the Sony one. Link
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That's the one I was talking about earlier. It doesn't charge, which seems rather silly as I've regularly driven for 6-7 hours in a day (albeit with breaks) using satellite navigation, and there's no way the Z1 would cope with that and not die part way through.
I really did expect it would have been a dock with an integral magentic charger. Of course, you can presumably rig up a separate cable of your own - but you'd expect to buy something that looks sleek and designed for the phone.
Of all the Sony accessories, this has to be the worst.
Just ordered on if these: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/ultra-desktop-dock-for-sony-xperia-z1-p41456.htm
Will use some sticky tape and stick it on my dash. Been using a Galaxy Nexus the same way with the desktop dock, works great, just drop the phone in the dock when you get in the car.
Any hard breaking and your phone will fall out of the dock and either smash into your windshield or in your face. I'd not use those dock type of holders.
It's not perfect, but I plan on using my iBolt I have had for several phones now, and just ordered a couple magnetic usb cables from EBay. I'll just attach it to the back and leave it dangling. Then I can simply flick it in place when required. Should work! I just wish the Z1 had the analogue USB audio with charging the S4 has......only thing I miss so far!
How many phones do carry audio via USB? The Motorola Atrix did (very nice car kit) but I've not found a phone since.
I like the dock but price is a bit steep. The only problem I have with my universal dock is that since all buttons are locked on one side its very hard to place without hitting the volume of camera button. I'm sure soon we will see some aftermarket copy cats that sell it a at a reasonable cost .
Brodit has a Car holder ready! Not sure if it's a 2a or 1a charger and if there will be a passive charger.
http://brodit.se/productList.html?brand=Sony&model=Xperia+Z1&pn=prod
I got answer from Brodit.
The charger on the active dock is a 2a charger.
There will be an passive holder.
RobbieTr said:
Brodit has a Car holder ready! Not sure if it's a 2a or 1a charger and if there will be a passive charger.
I got answer from Brodit.
The charger on the active dock is a 2a charger.
There will be an passive holder.
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Brodit always look so tacky though.
Considering there is a charge point on the bottom someone could design a nice looking dock.
The deskdock would work if it had a slightly higher back and then a clip that could fold up and hold onto the top of the phone.
It needs to be a design that doesn't look like it has been made in metal shop by a 7 year old when the phone is not in there.
Yeah I believe this is definitely something Sony need to wake up about, because these sort of things will hold them back. Sony need to ask themselves a question what is going to be the thing that is going to piss people off the most. Obviously opening and closing flaps every day. Love the headphones jack with no opening and closing flaps .
For a flagship phone people expect lots of accessories for the phone, extra battery life, protective cases, docks, car kits... I purchased the Xperia Z outright, and then expecting some accessories for the phone to be released after, and finally pretty much nothing, what seriously hoping for a car kit to utilise the charge pins. As a consumer I feel abandoned by Sony .
They have made come some way with the Xperia Z1 offering quite a few accessories at launch date, but note most if not almost all of them are generic. It shouldn't be 100% other companies responsibility to provide accessories for a flagship phone, it is Sony's and who cares if other Companies may manufacturer accessories.
I now have the Xperia Z1 and happy with the phone, and now in the same situation as everyone in thread looking for a car kit again, a little bit better this time because there is a possibility that I don't have to keep on opening a flaps any more.
Due to this I am sure a lot of people are not buying Sony phones regardless of how good they are. Come on Sony I really think you will find that a huge percentage of people require car kits, as they use phones for an in car gps, in addition most countries will fine you if you are not using your phone hands free.
Check out this one at ebay....It luks nice one....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dedicated-A...5392?pt=US_Mounts_Holders&hash=item3a7b6e6460
RobbieTr said:
Brodit has a Car holder ready! Not sure if it's a 2a or 1a charger and if there will be a passive charger.
http://brodit.se/productList.html?brand=Sony&model=Xperia+Z1&pn=prod
I got answer from Brodit.
The charger on the active dock is a 2a charger.
There will be an passive holder.
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I'm using the passive holder from Brodit/ProClip. It makes sense for me since I already had the car mount from a previous phone. It works quite well but it is overpriced for a simple piece of plastic. I don't like their powered options so am just using a magnetic charging cable with it.
Jimmy2u said:
Check out this one at ebay....It luks nice one....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dedicated-A...5392?pt=US_Mounts_Holders&hash=item3a7b6e6460
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Had something similar before not nice in my hot climate blocking the aircon.
Z1 case and car holder 2in1 (DIY)
Hi , I found solution which works for me so I decided to share with you.
Bought Wallet Stand Case for 4.95 on ebay and adapt my old, unused car mount for nokia 5800.
I cut off some corners of holder cradle to get flat surface and glued it to the back of the case. There are some pics..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395943&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395944&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395945&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395946&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395949&stc=1&d=1384627645
What I like in it is when I want to use my Z1 as sat nav the phone is still safe in its case with access to any buttons and no need to shift between case and car holder. Also you can use magnet charging cable as it easy access to magnet socket.
Does any one know if this DOCK will fit my phone with a case on
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400532980746
the case is a simple cheap one here - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310734558203
Thanks in advance, got a LG G2 coming on thursday.
Did you buy the dock yet? It looks nice, but honestly I wouldn't trust putting the weight of the phone on this dock, also it may damage the port if it is not installed properly, I prefer to hold both the phone and my charging cable when connecting. My biggest complaint is that AT&T version is not compatible with wireless charging...
hydeah said:
Did you buy the dock yet? It looks nice, but honestly I wouldn't trust putting the weight of the phone on this dock, also it may damage the port if it is not installed properly, I prefer to hold both the phone and my charging cable when connecting. My biggest complaint is that AT&T version is not compatible with wireless charging...
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Hey, no I haven't, most versions aren't wireless charging compatible
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With the weight of this phone, I wouldn't trust a dock unless it was specifically made to fit the phone.
I'd be worried about the charger port breaking or getting excessive wear.
i just ordered this cover : http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00IJ3NS8G/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and this case : http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B005HI46BO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and this usb magnetic plug : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/331180968083?var=540378912758&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
the cover will be on it all the time. i liked how slim it looked and that it was red. should receive it in a few weeks...
the case will only be used when i bring my tablet with me at work or anywhere. it looks slim and sturdy, i hope i wont be too heavy ! delivery in a few weeks too.
what do you think ? :fingers-crossed:
Magnetic connector is worthless... the Sony official magnetic cable works way better.
I bought a magnetic plug and although it works fine the magnet is much too weak: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52164482&postcount=7
the magnet on the adapter is weak and it is very hard to align to get to charge, and falls off if moved at all. The OEM sony cable fits well, alings instantly and you can pick up the tablet with it attached and it wont fall off. Well worth the money and obviously you get what you pay for......
NotAPirate said:
and this usb magnetic plug : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/331180968083?var=540378912758&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Hi !
If you've got the chance to cancel that order: Give the DK39 a thought.
I know, I know... It's just a cheap piece of plastic, and the price is an affront...
BUT: You can hook up any USB power supply (like Samsung's real nice and inexpensive 2 A charger) and recharge with all the amperes the power supply has to offer.
This does NOT work via USB because power supplies need a special hardware coding to allow real quick charging of the Z2.
Just an idea.
thanks for the comments but i've already paid for the magnetic adapter. i guess i'll get it in a few weeks and see what it is really worth. its only 3$ anyway.
i dont think the DK39 will work with a case of the tablet, no ?
NotAPirate said:
thanks for the comments but i've already paid for the magnetic adapter. i guess i'll get it in a few weeks and see what it is really worth. its only 3$ anyway.
i dont think the DK39 will work with a case of the tablet, no ?
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works with a case, not unless your case is like more than an inch thick
the hardcase http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B005HI46BO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is perfect, its not too thick and the Z2 fits perfectly inside. if you want more pictures, just ask.
Some time ago I purchased this for my G4 as well as this. It works just fine but when I put my case on it does not charge. The LED on the charger blinks like its misaligned or just out of range to charge. My case is a Ballistic brand case with the rubber then an external hard shell so its thicker than your average case. I also have a Verizon G2 that has wireless charging capability and with a thinner Diztronic case and it charges no problem.
So now I have a G4 with the power patch installed but cant use. Are there any other wireless charges that might be stronger? I don't want to have to buy a bunch of them to test. I've seen Samsung has a pretty large wireless charger available but I wonder if that would get through the case.
Anyone else out there with any charger that works through their case? By the way I use the QI wireless charging standard.
rustypie said:
Some time ago I purchased this for my G4 as well as this. It works just fine but when I put my case on it does not charge. The LED on the charger blinks like its misaligned or just out of range to charge. My case is a Ballistic brand case with the rubber then an external hard shell so its thicker than your average case. I also have a Verizon G2 that has wireless charging capability and with a thinner Diztronic case and it charges no problem.
So now I have a G4 with the power patch installed but cant use. Are there any other wireless charges that might be stronger? I don't want to have to buy a bunch of them to test. I've seen Samsung has a pretty large wireless charger available but I wonder if that would get through the case.
Anyone else out there with any charger that works through their case? By the way I use the QI wireless charging standard.
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Hey Rusty, I use the other version of the Yootech charger (the triangle one) with a Spigen Slim Armor case and it works fine through the case. Of course it is a thinner case, so probably not much help to you.
Just a shot in the dark, but have you tried a higher amperage power block? I use a Motorola Turbo block with these similar items and it works fine. (I can't post external links yet, so edit and make it work for your use to amazon dot com.)
Sticker: /gp/product/B010GQ2JRE
Charger: /gp/product/B00F6SPYJS
Case: /gp/product/B00UN6Y1Z6
I got the Turbo block on Groupon for about $10 back in June. Unfortunately that's no longer available.
I've also used a Samsung 2A charger from a tablet. That also worked fine.
I am considering buying an Xperia X because of the Wet finger tracking. My current Samsung doesn't support that, and since I do a bit of lobster and crab fishing, and I use an app (Fishing Points) to note what I get and where I put the pots, I am rather annoied with the Samsung since any drop of water on it will mess up my usage. And trying to dry out a phone in a small boat is kind of annoying. But then I see that the X doesn't support Qi wireless charging, and I have that in my home office, my car, on my motorcycle and next to my bed. Going back to where I have to actually plug in a cable seems so incredibly stone age. So are there any solutions for Qi compatible wireless charging that works on this, and that doesn't compromise waterproofing?
Mastiff said:
I am considering buying an Xperia X because of the Wet finger tracking. My current Samsung doesn't support that, and since I do a bit of lobster and crab fishing, and I use an app (Fishing Points) to note what I get and where I put the pots, I am rather annoied with the Samsung since any drop of water on it will mess up my usage. And trying to dry out a phone in a small boat is kind of annoying. But then I see that the X doesn't support Qi wireless charging, and I have that in my home office, my car, on my motorcycle and next to my bed. Going back to where I have to actually plug in a cable seems so incredibly stone age. So are there any solutions for Qi compatible wireless charging that works on this, and that doesn't compromise waterproofing?
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Yes, add a USB receiver.
Thanks, I see that you have that phone! You mean with the flat cable going into the battery bay? I did look into that, but found that it will compromise the waterproof seal. Or is there a way to do it that doesn't?
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Thanks, I see that you have that phone! You mean with the flat cable going into the battery bay? I did look into that, but found that it will compromise the waterproof seal. Or is there a way to do it that doesn't?
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It's a receiver that connects through the USB port of the phone, it do e's not affect any waterproof seal, although you probably need to dry the usb port before charging, this is the same with all phone if it just came out of water.
Thanks! But do you mean that I have to plug that in every time I need to charge the phone and then put it in the Qi charger, or that it's stuck to the outside of the phone? In the first case it's really just another way of plugging in a regular charger...
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Thanks! But do you mean that I have to plug that in every time I need to charge the phone and then put it in the Qi charger, or that it's stuck to the outside of the phone? In the first case it's really just another way of plugging in a regular charger...
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Go to ebay and search for qi receiver, there are many available, although depending which one you get will vary in quality.
Yeah, I've seen those. I'm afraid they will be ripped off in my pocket, I think. So maybe the best bet is two phones and a twin SIM, so I have one for regular use and one for fishing. Or wait until spring and see if Sony gets their act together and actually deliver an expensive phone with the most common wireless charging option.
Just use a case with the receiver, sony knows about qi, they have a offcial qi case for the Z5, but decided not to use qi, and opt for fast charging instead.
Good point, a thin case with the receiver inside would probably be a good solution! Thanks! And Sony didn't think that one through. It makes it less likely that Samsung people, who often have a bunch of QI stuff from their phones, will convert. Fast charging is OK, but I prefer to put the phone into the car holder or on the bedside table and start charging without having to plug anything.
This one could be the right type:
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Mastiff said:
This one could be the right type:
http://d3rmje198d1rhf.cloudfront.net/graphics/450pixelp/58836.jpg
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nillkin has the best receiver so far if you are in for a USB receiver, unlike the one's sold on ebay, they just use a thin sticker with the circuit in between, the nillkin uses thin plasic, and is very stable, I have the nillkin one for my XP and V20. USB is availabl;e in two version, A and B.
The offcial sony one is pretty thick, not worth buying, but that is for the Z5 only.
Thanks! I'll get that when I change phone, then. But the picture is of a case I can use on the phone, not a receiver.
In case anybody else wants to try this, it works. But not with the pictured case, that creates pressure on the back of the phone which gives color blotches on the screen. So I found my solution in a so called "Slim Rubber Gel Case Cover" and the Nillkin receiver. Problem solved, and it works quite nicely. I rarely need to to connect my phone with the USB, but it's quite easy to pop off the case and remove the receiver.