Is it possible to get 4g or 3g data with this device in the US ? Which operator to choose ?
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The only possibility is AT&T. However, during my trip to the states last week, I only got h+ in DC. Maybe it was just a problem of coverage. The frequency should be alright. So I'm not sure what to tell you. If you check the specs, it matches the LTE band of AT&T.
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C5503 will most likely get nothing above EDGE - which is E+. No carriers over there are set for 2100 MHz, and only few and scattered use 850 MHz. You might get lucky if you hit 850 MHz 3G coverage by AT&T.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies#United_States_Carrier_Frequency_Use
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No, you'll need to go with a carrier like T-Mobile who support the same frequencies as the international version (I assume, I haven't checked them recently).
T-Mobile has a 2100 MHz band but it's paired with 1700 MHz for AWS so I'm not sure if that would actually work.
The 1900 MHz band would get reception from AT&T, although only in areas where they're using 1900, probably in the city.
That's just for 3G though. If you don't need 3G then T-Mobile and AT&T are both GSM carriers.
you will have 2g coverage with at&t and tmobile, and some 3g with at&t, when you have wcdma 1900 coverage... that's about it
I suck at knowing these radios. But, if you are visiting friends, what you can try to do is borrow their sims from different carriers for 5 minutes and see what works in the area(s) you visit. Just an out of the box thought.
AT&T is using 850/1900MHz 3G/UMTS bands (if i'm not mistaken),
i9000 international version supports 3G/UMTS 900/1900/2100 MHz, 850MHz not included.
so I think you are not able to use the 3G network, but the GSM should be working find although it's much slower.
Yup
That's why us USA folks have to wait for either a USA or Australian Variant of the device.
Thanks a lot for all your replies! I was hoping Samsung would be lazy and build the same radio in all of it's devices. Guess I was wrong. Still, thanks a lot, I'll see how well it works with 2G.
Is there still no way to change the UMTS band on European Galaxies so they work in the US?
Nope. You would have to hardware mod the phone.
They already do on 1900 att and thats that
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Is there still no way to change the UMTS band on European Galaxies so they work in the US?
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I know this is an old thread, but I was looking for information about what modems are for what phones and came across it and thought that as an AT&T customer, I should clarify some information.
Most of AT&T 3G network uses 1900 MHz. AT&T is also "overlaying" 850 MHz over their existing 1900 MHz to increase capacity. There may be some 850 MHz only locations, but I am not aware of any. For the most part, if your phone supports UMTS1900, you should be able to get 3G anywhere that AT&T's map shows 3G availability.
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I know this is an old thread, but I was looking for information about what modems are for what phones and came across it and thought that as an AT&T customer, I should clarify some information.
Most of AT&T 3G network uses 1900 MHz. AT&T is also "overlaying" 850 MHz over their existing 1900 MHz to increase capacity. There may be some 850 MHz only locations, but I am not aware of any. For the most part, if your phone supports UMTS1900, you should be able to get 3G anywhere that AT&T's map shows 3G availability.
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if you bought a i9000m from canada. you can use UGKC1 or UGJL2 modem to enable 850
im currently on at&t using i9000m with ZSJPG modem with 850mhz enabled
Just 1900Mhz isn't all that great, kinda slow and spotty. Don't get me wrong, it's usable, but 850 is significantly faster/better at least where I live.
I have an I9000M but occasionally use a modem without 850, and it's not as good.
While there are roundabout ways to get 850 on other modems, I usually use one of the Bell ones like JL2 or KC1.
I am using jl2. kc1 did not work reliably with my microcell and would instead keep trying to pull in weak signal thus sucking battery. As for 850mhz only.. most of the I93 corridor on new England is 850mhz only.
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T-Mobile has a 2100 MHz band but it's paired with 1700 MHz for AWS so I'm not sure if that would actually work.
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It's not paired. It's a single band that uses 1700 MHz for upload and 2100 MHz for download. Just like the international 2100 Mhz band uses 2100 MHz for download and 1900 MHz for upload.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
So just to clarify, my stock i9000m, running 2.3.3 and UGKG3 will get 3G in southern California on both the 850 and 1900 bands? UGKG3 can use both bands?
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I'm only getting EDGE connection /speeds from t-mobile. However according to a press release a couple months back, my area was supported (goleta/Santa Barbara area) for HSPA+). How can I enable this network or why am I only getting edge? I am using a Criskelo rom.
Correct me if I am wrong but international note can ONLY be used at edge with US T-Mobile. The note doesn't have the radios for the Baseband of T-Mobile frequencies. As I have read in the forums in the past only at at&t can connect the note for 3g, not 100% sure for the last.
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I'm only getting EDGE connection /speeds from t-mobile. However according to a press release a couple months back, my area was supported (goleta/Santa Barbara area) for HSPA). How can I enable this network or why am I only getting edge. I am using a Criskelo rom.
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if you are on GSM network .. switch to WCDMA only network in your network settings
3G/4G of T-Mobile USA uses a relatively rare frequency 1700/2100 UMTS Band IV (aka AWS). The Note can't support it. You choice is either stick at the EDGE speed or switch to AT&T(or its MVNO).
TMOUS is starting to refarm their 3G/4G frequency to which the Note will support. But I think it might takes years to get the work done.
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Correct me if I am wrong but international note can ONLY be used at edge with US T-Mobile. The note doesn't have the radios for the Baseband of T-Mobile frequencies. As I have read in the forums in the past only at at&t can connect the note for 3g, not 100% sure for the last.
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tmous is rolling out 1900 frequencies so it will be able to get 3g and possibly 4g depending on where you are... currently there are members on here from the northwest that have confirmed this working...
as for the question at hand i would contact tmo and ask if the towers are running and where in your area to make sure... the auto gsm/wcdma mode should work fine because if you leave the area where there is 1900 and are on wcdma only you will get no svc...
Well here's the press release: newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/new-4g-markets-nov2011
Hmm...I'm a total noob at this stuff and guess I was assuming I was gonna get HSPA+ due to it listing 1900 mhz in Santa Barbara on the Wirelessadvisor website in a zipcode search.
Am I wrong to assume that if the network is 1900 mhz band? Changing the gsm/wcdma didn't do anything. Guess I should contact t-mobile to make sure?
Hi all
I bought the Xperia Z C6603 in UK will it get 3g or 4g or let in NY, USA?
i been reading in the blogs that it wont support you will only get GPRS or EDGE based on this t-mobile thread http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/40671?start=0&tstart=0
but can the Devs do something to make it work on 3g/4g with current hardware in the phone? or should I return and buy the phone when it comes in the USA?
all help is appreciated
I'm not sure about 3g, but I've heard that the 4g bands that the phone uses are different then being used in the States. So that won't work.
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Hi all
I bought the Xperia Z C6603 in UK will it get 3g or 4g or let in NY, USA?
i been reading in the blogs that it wont support you will only get GPRS or EDGE based on this t-mobile thread http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/40671?start=0&tstart=0
but can the Devs do something to make it work on 3g/4g with current hardware in the phone? or should I return and buy the phone when it comes in the USA?
all help is appreciated
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As I posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2231009&page=2
The reason is, according to T mobile
Depending on where a tower is at in the 4G life cycle, theoretical maximum download speeds range from 21 Mbps – 42 Mbps.
T-Mobile's HSPA+ network operates on the same band as our 3G network, Band IV, which uses 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies to transmit voice and data services. The 1700 MHz frequency sends information to cell sites and the 2100 MHz frequency receives information.
As with our 3G network, both 1700 MHz frequency and 2100 MHz frequency are required for a device to function. If a device only has one of these frequencies, it cannot use T-Mobile’s 3G and 4G networks.
T-Mobile is switching some 1900 MHz frequency from EDGE to HSPA+. This will allow devices that work on 1900 MHz, such as AT&T devices, to use our 4G network.
and yes,the Xperia z uses UMTS HSPA+ Bands 1, 3, 5, 8 which are
1 for 2100, 3 for 1800, 5 for 850 and 8 for 900
the HSDPA in T mobile are in the bands 1700 and 2100, just like the 3G, and the Xperia Z model c6603 uses bands 850/900/1700 only!!! the C6602 model uses the same bands plus /1900/2100 so, if you miss one band in T mobile you will never have the HSDPA speed, no matter the firmware,because is hardware
This info is according to Sony Official Page www.sonymobile.com, so as you can see you are missing one band, the 1700
Resuming, is hardware issue, and I dont think that the developers will be able to get 4G speeds or even HSDPA if the chip required is missing iin the c6603
c6602 is the only choice
Im currently have c6602 on tmobile and I can get h+ speed on it I did order c6603 and only get EDGE. You will have to set APN manually se the phone canlog into the network. Or u will have to get ZL since I heard that Xperia Z wont be distributed through any US carriers.
I cant find any way to get 3g, i only get GSM, which sucks. these are the frequencies in my country for 3g 850 900 2100
any chance i can get it?
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I cant find any way to get 3g, i only get GSM, which sucks. these are the frequencies in my country for 3g 850 900 2100
any chance i can get it?
thanks in mind for helpers
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The Sprint model can connect to the following frequencies (link):
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA: 800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE: Sprint: 1900 MHz
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I'm assuming that when you say "3G," you're referring to HSPA and when you say "GSM," you mean 2G/EDGE. This means that the Sprint model can only connect to the 2100 MHz frequency in your country for 3G. I don't know how it works in your country, but in the US, some carriers only transmit on certain frequencies in some markets (areas). It may be that your carrier is not transmitting 2100 MHz in your area.
For example, in the US, T-Mobile transmits 3G on 1900 and 1700/2100 MHz. However, it doesn't do this everywhere in the country. In some areas, it will transmit 3G on all of those frequencies, but in other areas, it might only transmit on 1900 MHz because it doesn't have the license to transmit on 1700/2100 MHz in that specific area.
Basically, you need to find out if your carrier is actually transmitting 3G on 2100 MHz in your area. What country are you in and what carrier are you using, just out of curiosity?
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The Sprint model can connect to the following frequencies
I'm assuming that when you say "3G," you're referring to HSPA and when you say "GSM," you mean 2G/EDGE. This means that the Sprint model can only connect to the 2100 MHz frequency in your country for 3G. I don't know how it works in your country, but in the US, some carriers only transmit on certain frequencies in some markets (areas). It may be that your carrier is not transmitting 2100 MHz in your area.
For example, in the US, T-Mobile transmits 3G on 1900 and 1700/2100 MHz. However, it doesn't do this everywhere in the country. In some areas, it will transmit 3G on all of those frequencies, but in other areas, it might only transmit on 1900 MHz because it doesn't have the license to transmit on 1700/2100 MHz in that specific area.
Basically, you need to find out if your carrier is actually transmitting 3G on 2100 MHz in your area. What country are you in and what carrier are you using, just out of curiosity?
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thank you for ur response, and no i figured out what the frequencies are in my country, and they are listed above,
but either way i live in israel and my carrier is youphone which works on orange network.
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I cant find any way to get 3g, i only get GSM, which sucks. these are the frequencies in my country for 3g 850 900 2100
any chance i can get it?
thanks in mind for helpers
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I thought it was only indicator man. Mine even show Gsm icon but I got Hsdpa speed here in my country speed download about 800KB/s to 950KB/s
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I thought it was only indicator man. Mine even show Gsm icon but I got Hsdpa speed here in my country speed download about 800KB/s to 950KB/s
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thats odd, ive seen youtube videos with sprint htc one showing the H and 3G Icon
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thats odd, ive seen youtube videos with sprint htc one showing the H and 3G Icon
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if yiu use GSM sim, indicator show GSM.. maybe on youtube use another cdma carriers. mine if use gsm sim show GSM, when use CDMA show 3G
I live in Sacramento, CA and it's supposedly a refarmed city, meaning it uses 1900Mhz spectrum on T-Mobile for 3G. So I bought a C5306 for my wife, however the 3G isn't working, all we get is EDGE. Naturally I thought I'd at least get LTE, since it's advertised as an LTE phone but I'm not getting that either, even though we have LTE in my area. What's the deal? Has anyone else had this issue? In the phone settings I have it setup to receive LTE/GSM/WCDMA in that order but it doesn't seem to help.
The 5306 claims to have the right bands...
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
LTE 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
I'm calling lies on either Sony or T-Mobile...
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I live in Sacramento, CA and it's supposedly a refarmed city, meaning it uses 1900Mhz spectrum on T-Mobile for 3G. So I bought a C5306 for my wife, however the 3G isn't working, all we get is EDGE. Naturally I thought I'd at least get LTE, since it's advertised as an LTE phone but I'm not getting that either, even though we have LTE in my area. What's the deal? Has anyone else had this issue? In the phone settings I have it setup to receive LTE/GSM/WCDMA in that order but it doesn't seem to help.
The 5306 claims to have the right bands...
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
LTE 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
I'm calling lies on either Sony or T-Mobile...
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Maybe you accidently got a c5303 i'm in the us for vacation and i bought tmobile prepaid but i only got edge on my 5303 because of the baseband
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noahvt said:
Maybe you accidently got a c5303 i'm in the us for vacation and i bought tmobile prepaid but i only got edge on my 5303 because of the baseband
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It's a 5306. Otherwise it wouldn't have LTE listed in the baseband options when you type *#*#4636#*#*
EDIT - I take that back, I guess the 5303 does also have LTE, but different bands. God I hope it's not a 5303, how can you tell? Different ROMs come from different bases and depending on the ROM you install it'll say 5306 or 5303. The stock ROM that came installed on it said 5306, but I installed another custom one and it now says 5303, ugh.
Holy ****, not only do I have the wrong phone, I think I was defrauded in the process. This is a 5303 that was sold as a 5306. The seller just flashed 5306 firmware on top to make it look like a 5306. The picture below shows that it has the 5303 bands (1,3,5,7,8,20) and not the 5306 ones (1,2,4,5).
Does it say C5303 at Model Info? Or on the Box? If yes get your bud to the store
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Does it say C5303 at Model Info? Or on the Box? If yes get your bud to the store
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It says whatever firmware you put on it. The C5303 and C5306 firmware are interchangeable. Hence why I think they can sell them as "C5306" phones. This was on ebay, by the way. The only way you can tell is to look at what bands the phone supports, which I did above, you do that by typing *#*#7378423#*#* in the dialer and then going to Configuration in the Service Menu.
i have a c5306 i checked the bands. Anyways i am using it on att and i get h+ but no lte any ideas?