Install specific update possible? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone,
I just ordered me a Z1 and it comes with Android 4.2 included. Not there is already an update possible to 4.4 (Kitkat). But what I want is to go to Version 4.3 of android because of the permission manager. Is there any way to install the specific update? In Version 4.4 the permission manager was removed again. Probably it will never come back
Thanks!!
Best,
Fresh

Yes, use flashtool.net
But what do you mean "Permission manager"

gregbradley said:
But what do you mean "Permission manager"
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I think he is referring about SD Permission...

no, I have read about the (hidden) possibility in 4.3 to manage apps permissions like disallow GPS for apps and so on like on iOS.

Fresh0razoR said:
no, I have read about the (hidden) possibility in 4.3 to manage apps permissions like disallow GPS for apps and so on like on iOS.
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Still unsure what you mean. I have not read anything like that specific for 4.3, can you share a link as to where you read it.

Fresh0razoR said:
no, I have read about the (hidden) possibility in 4.3 to manage apps permissions like disallow GPS for apps and so on like on iOS.
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App Ops are present in 4.4.2 too. You have to use an app like this AppOps to find the hidden feature

But in 4.4.2 you need to root your device. In the past versions it was possible without root access...

Fresh0razoR said:
But in 4.4.2 you need to root your device. In the past versions it was possible without root access...
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..anyway, your question was answered, you have to use latest flashtool and there is no way to update to 4.3 via PC Companion or OTA by selecting the FW as they always give the latest.
Still don't understand, if you have use Flashtool, why you don't want Rooted 4.4. Don't worry, your warranty will not be voided and you will have more fun.

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[Q] Unroot Cm10.1

been trying to figure out how to unroot cm10.1 the type where superuser is integrated into system config, not as apps. not sure if anyone have figure that out..some guidance would be great..
gotta use some application which will detect root and i rather use lightweight cm than the heavy tw rom...
*edit**sorry...description i gave wasnt detailed enough..its actually 4.2.2 version where super use is intergrated in settings...hence there is not icon on apps...
foochuangyeh said:
been trying to figure out how to unroot cm10.1 the type where superuser is integrated into system config, not as apps. not sure if anyone have figure that out..some guidance would be great..
gotta use some application which will detect root and i rather use lightweight cm than the heavy tw rom...
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Go To superSU app And in the menu choose To unroot. You will have no root And no app at all..
Whats the point of unroot in CM10.1 rom ? why u want to unroot. ?
anoopva said:
Whats the point of unroot in CM10.1 rom ? why u want to unroot. ?
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OP says he want to use an app that need an unrooted phone. use full unroot option in SU
nokiamodeln91 said:
OP says he want to use an app that need an unrooted phone. use full unroot option in SU
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okay, got it
Goto Settings-> developer options -> Root Access -> Disable.
foochuangyeh said:
been trying to figure out how to unroot cm10.1 the type where superuser is integrated into system config, not as apps. not sure if anyone have figure that out..some guidance would be great..
gotta use some application which will detect root and i rather use lightweight cm than the heavy tw rom...
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madhugk said:
Goto Settings-> developer options -> Root Access -> Disable.
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thanks. the app still detects root...
foochuangyeh said:
thanks. the app still detects root...
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Go to SuperSU / Supersuser menu and from there choose full unroot. Then, reboot the device and check root access.
glevitan said:
Go to SuperSU / Supersuser menu and from there choose full unroot. Then, reboot the device and check root access.
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sorry...description i gave wasnt detailed enough..its actually 4.2.2 version where super use is intergrated in settings...hence there is not icon on apps...
foochuangyeh said:
sorry...description i gave wasnt detailed enough..its actually 4.2.2 version where super use is intergrated in settings...hence there is not icon on apps...
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I am not sure about this, but you can try to install the SuperSU.apk from the play store and then see if it works...
Looking for this too
I recently upgraded to CM10.1 and am faced with the same challenge, rooting/unrooting with CM9 and superuser.apk was easy. How can I go about this now?

Is My phone rooted?

Hi. I just download and install recovery software call: Dr.Fone for android.
After prepared my phone to works with this software it was restart.
Software is relay good as I could recover my sms but! All apps related to banks stops working and give me msg: You phone is rooted.
Apps : check my root - says: - phone is not rooted... so, any idea what happen?
did you root it?
did you unlock the bootloader?
how can I check if bootloader is unlocking?
OK, I open Service menu and under Configuration it says: Rooting status: Bootloader unlock allowed: No
So is not rooted, but why banking apps stop working and says: apps not working on rooted devices - before I install dr.Fone banking apps works with no problem.
goralpm said:
how can I check if bootloader is unlocking?
OK, I open Service menu and under Configuration it says: Rooting status: Bootloader unlock allowed: No
So is not rooted, but why banking apps stop working and says: apps not working on rooted devices - before I install dr.Fone banking apps works with no problem.
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Then it is not unlocked because it says you cannot do it..
I think the app you istalled is the problem, uninstall it
Unless you have been through a process to root the phone will not maigically root itself.
Maybe you should repair the software with pccompanion just to be sure and not install dr.Fone app (Of which I have never heard of before..)
gregbradley said:
Then it is not unlocked because it says you cannot do it..
I think the app you istalled is the problem, uninstall it
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I uninstall it, but is no change, still banking apps says phone is rooted.
Is any options to show what was change? Like log file or similar?
Unless you have been through a process to root the phone will not maigically root itself.
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So, my hone is definitely not rooted?
Maybe you should repair the software with pccompanion just to be sure and not install dr.Fone app (Of which I have never heard of before..)
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How can I repair with pccompanion?
I
goralpm said:
How can I repair with pccompanion?
I
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Download pccompanion and run it.
choose software update and then click on repair my phone
goralpm said:
So, my hone is definitely not rooted?
I
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Try it yourself:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck&hl=en
Im guessing you were taken for a ride with this app. Ill try to help you out a bit. That app (dr.whatever) left files on your phone that are probably the problem. Use your file explorer to navigate to your internal storage, find the folder named Android. Inside you will see two folders named data and obb. Inside you will find all the data for your applications (each located within thier own folder). Look through these for a folder with the name or developers name (sometimes this can be tricky because there are no spaces in the file name, as well its usually initials or abbreviations.) Locate the folder and delete it, then reboot. Since your not rooted, you cant wipe your caches and data as we do so just try this out.
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mstickland said:
Im guessing you were taken for a ride with this app. Ill try to help you out a bit. That app (dr.whatever) left files on your phone that are probably the problem. Use your file explorer to navigate to your internal storage, find the folder named Android. Inside you will see two folders named data and obb. Inside you will find all the data for your applications (each located within thier own folder). Look through these for a folder with the name or developers name (sometimes this can be tricky because there are no spaces in the file name, as well its usually initials or abbreviations.) Locate the folder and delete it, then reboot. Since your not rooted, you cant wipe your caches and data as we do so just try this out.
Sent from my SGH-I317M using xda premium
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there is no obb folder, just data.
OK I made same research i I find this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7b1QXxWk-g
When I connect phone with dr.fone it was this same way....
That means my Phone is rooted?
Root Checker Pro:
Result:
Root Access is not properly configured or was not granted.
Detailed:
Super User Application Status:
Superuser application - version 3.1.3 -is installed
SuperSU application - is NOT installed.
System File Properties for Root Access:
Standard Location
Check Command: Is -l/system/bin/su:
Result: /system/bin/su: No such file or directory
Analysis: File /system/bin/su does not exist.
Can anybody explain me what this mean and is my phone rooted or not?
why don't you just try and root again with either doomlords easy root or bin4rys root kit.
That way you will definitely be rooted
gregbradley said:
why don't you just try and root again with either doomlords easy root or bin4rys root kit.
That way you will definitely be rooted
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OK, but is any chance to unroot?
goralpm said:
OK, but is any chance to unroot?
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what do you want? To be rooted or not to be rooted?
gregbradley said:
what do you want? To be rooted or not to be rooted?
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To be not rooted. Cos I cant use some apps, witch I use on regular basis.
If I take factory reset - it will be after unrooted?
I don't think that you are rooted at all, that Dr Fone app sounds fishy and bogus to me (as others have stated as well).
Best bet is imho to repair with PC Companion as greg has also mentioned. You could also try removing any superuser app that apparently is somewhere on you device, it might be that your banking app checks for this.
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That Dr Fone app is not even in my Play Store - I would probably opt for a factory reset, rather than repair. Sounds like malware to me. If you want to backup something from your device, stay with the regular, known and trusted apps!
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goralpm said:
To be not rooted. Cos I cant use some apps, witch I use on regular basis.
If I take factory reset - it will be after unrooted?
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Which apps can not be used on a rooted phone? I never came across anything I can't use on my rooted phone, as opposed to an unrooted one. Just the opposite is true. There are many apps and functions that do work on a rooted phone, which I would be missing a lot if I was not rooted.
Dr.Fone seems to have manipulated with your system. My suggestion is first using the Doomlord easy rooting kit. It works like a charm, and also allows unrooting later in case you do not need to be rooted. Then uninstall that Dr. Fone thing (and everything else you don't need).
Like some of the others I do have suspicions regarding Dr. Fone software. There are so many useful tools and apps from reputable sources you can use on a rooted phone, it is almost overwhelming. What made you grab such a dubious app?
Now it is already on the second page for a relatively simple issue which basically comes down to one point: Get rid of that Dr.Fone. Action required.
No offence intended.
Flash a stock ftf you definitely not be rooted anymore.
There are several apps that don't work on rooted phones, sky go being one of them.
It is generally done by apps that have copy right laws to enforce or subscription issues.
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OK, I finally rooted my phone properly. Now I can use TitaniumBackup for full bacup - and restore phone to factory setting...
I used this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46373469#post46373469
goralpm said:
OK, I finally rooted my phone properly. Now I can use TitaniumBackup for full bacup - and restore phone to factory setting...
I used this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46373469#post46373469
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I really don't understand you, in your last post you wanted NOT to be rooted...
Yea, confusing.

[Q] Does 4.3 OTA kill Geohot's Active Root?

That's the question. Update downloaded ok but I did not install it as I did not want to lose Root access. I have not seen anyone who used Geohot's Active Root to root their phone get the OTA installed.
I have a ton of stuff quarantined (what happens to them? Do they get released/un-quarantined?)
I have other programs that only work with root access such as Ti Backup and AdAway. Will they just cease to function?
APeter001 said:
That's the question. Update downloaded ok but I did not install it as I did not want to lose Root access. I have not seen anyone who used Geohot's Active Root to root their phone get the OTA installed.
I have a ton of stuff quarantined (what happens to them? Do they get released/un-quarantined?)
I have other programs that only work with root access such as Ti Backup and AdAway. Will they just cease to function?
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It don't work, we have known that since the test 4.3 came out
popfan said:
It don't work, we have known that since the test 4.3 came out
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Well I guess it will just sit there uninstalled until we get a simple root then that works. Thanks
APeter001 said:
Well I guess it will just sit there uninstalled until we get a simple root then that works. Thanks
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You might want to be careful with that. From what I've read in the S4 forums after some unknown amount of time the update will install itself. The only known way to prevent it it to freeze wssync with Titanium Backup. If it never prompts you to install the update you're probably fine, but if it does I'd look into the TiBu option.

[Q] Diable 5.1 update on rooted Pure?

I have a rooted stock ROM Pure and I want to avoid the 5.1 update for a couple of reasons.
Does anyone know how to disable the update process on these devices?
TIA
FoneWatcher said:
I have a rooted stock ROM Pure and I want to avoid the 5.1 update for a couple of reasons.
Does anyone know how to disable the update process on these devices?
TIA
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Disable MotorolaOTA in the system apps in settings. If you're rooted, you can freeze it in the /system folder using Titanium or whatever else you use. Safest thing to do is to rename it with a .bak at the end, then when you're ready to update you just remove it and reboot.
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Disable MotorolaOTA in the system apps in settings. If you're rooted, you can freeze it in the /system folder using Titanium or whatever else you use. Safest thing to do is to rename it with a .bak at the end, then when you're ready to update you just remove it and reboot.
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Thanks for the reply. I froze it with Ti Backup, but I'm still able to check for updates manually and it reports normally.
Shouldn't that function be disabled if the OTA apparatus is truly disabled?
I do see in firewall a process called 'Device Management that I thought I could block MotorolaOTA from communicating, but there are other functions bundled, so I don;t want to do that.
Ideas, anyone?
FoneWatcher said:
Thanks for the reply. I froze it with Ti Backup, but I'm still able to check for updates manually and it reports normally.
Shouldn't that function be disabled if the OTA apparatus is truly disabled?
I do see in firewall a process called 'Device Management that I thought I could block MotorolaOTA from communicating, but there are other functions bundled, so I don;t want to do that.
Ideas, anyone?
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Motorola will still be able to be communicated to, but the OTA function will be disabled, eg. no OTA will be detected. It is my understanding that blocking MororolaOTA just keeps the notification from appearing and prevents OTA downloads.
sivarticus85 said:
Motorola will still be able to be communicated to, but the OTA function will be disabled, eg. no OTA will be detected. It is my understanding that blocking MororolaOTA just keeps the notification from appearing and prevents OTA downloads.
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Thanks again - that makes sense. I'll see the rollout on my stock Pure (if I still have it and decide not to sell it) and be able to compare in real-time if it does the trick.

Problems after rooting, Help!

2 days ago i rooted my G800F with CF-auto-root through ODIN. (Used the latest CF-auto-root from here , with ODIN v3.10.6)
But after that my device is too laggy!
Much slower as it had 512 RAM. Root success was confirmed with Root Checker
SuperSU was also installed but sometimes i get a message that SU binary isn't installed.
I 've tried with "ROM toolbox" and "System App Remover" to unistall some system apps but i got the message "Failed to Unistall xxxxxxx app". But if i entered again "ROM toolbox" i found out that the xxxxxx app wasn't there. It has been unistalled!
Once Play Store didn't let me upgrade some apps, because it said that i must logged in to my account (which i was already logged in), and others problems like that!
What shall i do now?
Root again the device? Unroot the device and root again? Unistall Knox? (i've read somewhere that Knox is responsible for problems after rooting). Find another version for CF- auto-root? (the latest is for Build ID LMY47X.G800FXXU1BPB2 but mine is LMY47X.G800FXXU1BPC4 if it matters)
Please help!
Yes, if you have root you must disable Knox. If it doesn't help, you can try go back to stock to see if it's a hardware issue (it will still lag), then root again if everything is fine for a day or two...
lfom said:
Yes, if you have root you must disable Knox. If it doesn't help, you can try go back to stock to see if it's a hardware issue (it will still lag), then root again if everything is fine for a day or two...
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I have this device for about 2 years. These problems have begun just after rooting. So, i believe it is not a hardware problem.
By saying disable Knox you mean delete/unistall or freeze?
And how can i do that?
billphone said:
I have this device for about 2 years. These problems have begun just after rooting. So, i believe it is not a hardware problem.
By saying disable Knox you mean delete/unistall or freeze?
And how can i do that?
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I would first use Link2SD to freeze all related to Knox and Security log first. If everything went right, backup and delete files.
lfom said:
I would first use Link2SD to freeze all related to Knox and Security log first. If everything went right, backup and delete files.
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I freezed all apps and having the word Knox in their names. The phone isn't so laggy now but if i open some apps for rooted devices such as Busybox or Rom Toolbox they can't operate and got a message that my device isn't rooted. After that, no others apps for rooted devices are working! The SU doesn't open at all! All will work again after restart (except ofcourse Busy box Rom toolbox)
So what shall i do?
Unroot and root again? Root again over the previous root? What else?
billphone said:
I freezed all apps and having the word Knox in their names. The phone isn't so laggy now but if i open some apps for rooted devices such as Busybox or Rom Toolbox they can't operate and got a message that my device isn't rooted. After that, no others apps for rooted devices are working! The SU doesn't open at all! All will work again after restart (except ofcourse Busy box Rom toolbox)
So what shall i do?
Unroot and root again? Root again over the previous root? What else?
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I thought that CF-Auto-Root disabled Knox protection when used, but maybe not... I think there is an option in SuperSU to disable it, you must use it as soon as you open it after using CF-Auto-Root and booting again to Android. If it doesn't have this option, it's not only Knox that makes the security system that prevents root, there is SecurityLog too (and on MM I think I've seen Rootpd that probably is a root protection daemon). Probably it removed su when you were disabling Knox. If you can root again over the current state, probably you can try disabling security system completely this time. Check other threads about rooting G800F, probably there is a list of apps you must disable.
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I thought that CF-Auto-Root disabled Knox protection when used, but maybe not... I think there is an option in SuperSU to disable it, you must use it as soon as you open it after using CF-Auto-Root and booting again to Android. If it doesn't have this option, it's not only Knox that makes the security system that prevents root, there is SecurityLog too (and on MM I think I've seen Rootpd that probably is a root protection daemon). Probably it removed su when you were disabling Knox. If you can root again over the current state, probably you can try disabling security system completely this time. Check other threads about rooting G800F, probably there is a list of apps you must disable.
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Thanks for your anwser.
The SU isn't permanently removed but only temporarily, because after restart it is working again
I 'll try to unroot and root again and we 'll see what happens
billphone said:
Thanks for your anwser.
The SU isn't permanently removed but only temporarily, because after restart it is working again
I 'll try to unroot and root again and we 'll see what happens
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SuperSU is the app, su is the superuser daemon. Good luck.
billphone said:
Thanks for your anwser.
The SU isn't permanently removed but only temporarily, because after restart it is working again
I 'll try to unroot and root again and we 'll see what happens
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So finally the problems are still here. The device is no longer laggy, but the root sometimes works sometimes doesn't.
I root again over the previous root, again the same. I unroot and again root, the same. I install a custom recovery and flash the SuperSU, the same results.
Initially working fine, giving rights to the applications but later sometime does not. With restart reverts briefly again.
What on earth has gone wrong? I have root many devices and all of them were working perfect!
I would like to avoid factory reset because i don't know how to restore my backup without problems.
Is there another solution?
Knox disables root, it can even revert custom recovery. Did you disable it, as well as Security Log (disable its updates in settings first), as suggested previously?
lfom said:
Knox disables root, it can even revert custom recovery. Did you disable it, as well as Security Log (disable its updates in settings first), as suggested previously?
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Yes, i disable some apps with the word Knox in them. I don't know if is still a Knox app with a different name. Is there a list with Knox apps?
I didn't disable the Security Log neither its updates. Where can i find them?
So, finally i have a rooted device which randomly unroot itself!
And nothing can be done!

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