Hey everyone, I am about to pay full retail price for the S5 through AT&T which means it will be unlocked.
Question is...any root method or exploits that work for the international version also apply to the AT&T model?
Nope, paying full price for an "Unlocked AT&T" model, means it's carrier unlocked, bootloader is still locked down on all AT&T branded S5's. If your paying full price and want root, you should just buy an unlocked T-Mobile version from somewhere like swappa.com, supports AT&T frequencies and the bootloader comes unlocked.
It would be nice if XDA had a "Glossary of Terms" in the wiki that explained terms that are used often like"bootloader unlocked" and "carrier unlocked". Maybe, it wouldn't make much difference, but the some words and terms are often confused and are explained again. It might be easier to just link to the glossary.
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Keep in mind the phones aren't usually unlocked (carrier unlocked) at the point of sale and you'll have to submit an unlock request once you've bought it.. As a side note, I highly recommend buying the T-Mobile version, as it's compatible with at&t and DOES have the bootloader unlocked by default. There's really no reason to buy the at&t version if you're buying at full price.
kevinco1 said:
Hey everyone, I am about to pay full retail price for the S5 through AT&T which means it will be unlocked.
Question is...any root method or exploits that work for the international version also apply to the AT&T model?
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If you are going to pay full price, just go to T-Mobile store and by the T-Mo version which comes with an unlocked bootloader and supports all AT&T frequencies, then just replace your back cover for an unbranded or at&T branded one.
the AT&T one will not get Root anytime soon.
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I am contemplating purchasing a new unlocked TyTnII for $830 CDN to be used on Rogers Network...who currently do not offer the phone yet. What I don't know, is the difference between an upcoming 'locked' phone from Rogers, and the unlocked version I am thinking of purchasing.
There is quite a difference between the subsidized Rogers price, and the unlocked version, and I am trying to decide if the cost difference is worth the added features one might get from the unlocked model.
Thank you for your help.
locked phone can only be used within the network, like Rogers. Unlocked, means you can just insert any SIM, from any carriers worldwide, and the phone will work.
as far as the TyTN, there are already ways to SIM unlock it. So wait for the subsidized.
read the kaiser wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Verizon has a Developer Edition Note 3 available with an unlocked bootloader. Is there another Note 3 variant available with unlocked bootloader that will work with AT&T (including LTE)?
Please look up the T-Mobile version of the phone. Works 100% with AT&T and is easy to unlock for use on AT&T. It has been posted about here dozens of times, should have all the info.
defectiveleader said:
Please look up the T-Mobile version of the phone. Works 100% with AT&T and is easy to unlock for use on AT&T. It has been posted about here dozens of times, should have all the info.
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Unlocked bootloader, not carrier unlocked.
I have both T-Mobile and AT&T. I bought the T-Mobile full price, got a $10.00 SIM Card to activate, then paid 34.00 to have it unlocked. All less than 6 hours. Or you can wait 40 days and have it unlocked for free. I was in a hurry, so I paid. This was so that I can connect to my Gear watch. Now with SafeStrap, I loaded x-note7 and have Bluetooth tethering natively. So now I have a T-Mobile I plan to sell off.
Once again for clarity: I'm looking for a phone with a factory-unlocked BOOTLOADER, not unlocked carrier. Like the Verizon Developer Edition phone, except not for Verizon.
GoremanX said:
Once again for clarity: I'm looking for a phone with a factory-unlocked BOOTLOADER, not unlocked carrier. Like the Verizon Developer Edition phone, except not for Verizon.
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The T-Mobile variant has an unlocked bootloader.
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Verizon has a Developer Edition Note 3 available with an unlocked bootloader. Is there another Note 3 variant available with unlocked bootloader that will work with AT&T (including LTE)?
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There is a big thread in the general section. A search should have found it.
[Guide] Tmobile N3 on AT&T's Network the Unofficial Developer Edition, CM11/KitKat
OMG... does no-one know the difference between an unlocked carrier and an unlocked BOOTLOADER?
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OMG... does no-one know the difference between an unlocked carrier and an unlocked BOOTLOADER?
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The T-Mobile variant has an unlocked bootloader. It is however carrier locked. So you will have to carrier unlock it in order to use it on an AT&T network. So you will have to get it and pay to get it unlocked from the T-mobile network. It is supposed to have an unlocked bootloader and I am pretty sure that is what everyone is trying to tell you, but not in such a clear way.
From what I understand it is only AT&T that had Samsung lock the bootloader because their plan was/is with using KNOX to create a secure network for business customers and make it so the phones could not be easily compromised.
There is not a developer version or unlocked bootloader AT&T phone. If you want to use a phone that is bootloader unlocked on the AT&T network, buy a TMobile phone.
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I'm going to take advantage of the Note 7 promotion. I'm currently on Sprint. From what I understand, there are no hardware differences between the carrier unlocked version and the Sprint version (per Samsung chat). The only major differences are in carrier software, I think? Also, it looks like software updates may be extremely slow? I would have expected the opposite since it's coming straight from Samsung.
From what I can tell, I can always flash the carrier ROM on the unlocked version, but I think this would trip Knox and I would lose Samsung Pay, right? Conversely, if I go with the carrier version, I can unlock it because I'll own it outright, correct?
I'm really stuck on which one to preorder. I always figured carrier unlocked was better, but perhaps not? Any guiding thoughts for me?
Wonder about this too.
Is the cellular bands listed on this site accurate?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
If it is, the unlocked may not have all the bands for, for example, T-mobile. So if sticking with one carrier and not planning to change, will getting the carrier one, though with more bloatware, be better for coverage?
Here is a screen capture for the Carrier Unlocked Note 8 from Best Buys Website.
just take this with a pinch of salt but carrier lock is way better than the other.
I have about 40 minutes left to purchase the Note 8 on samsung.com before their trade in promo expires.
I'd like to know whether there's any actual difference between the two versions. I know that the unlocked version will not have any carrier bloatware, and apparently, it will receive updates slower.
I am concerned about wifi calling/calling plus and volte. Would I only have access to that on the Sprint variant?
What about international use? Would I be able to travel around the world and pop in a local SIM if I have the Sprint version? Or would the phone be locked for international use?
I intend on buying from samsung.com, so I would expect that if I were to get the Sprint version, that Sprint unlock the device after 50 days on their network.
I do know that resale value should be higher on the unlocked version, but I figure I would get the device unlocked by Sprint before I would sell it.
Anything else I should know about?
Is there something called an "ISIM" and would I need to get that for the unlocked version?
Thanks!
I have about 40 minutes left to purchase the Note 8 on samsung.com before their trade in promo expires.
I'd like to know whether there's any actual difference between the two versions. I know that the unlocked version will not have any carrier bloatware, and apparently, it will receive updates slower.
Updates are on different schedules. prolly a bit slower, but you are not gonna have all the extra bloatware
I am concerned about wifi calling/calling plus and volte. Would I only have access to that on the Sprint variant?
I have wifi calling and volte with some adjustments to the settings on the unlocked version
What about international use? Would I be able to travel around the world and pop in a local SIM if I have the Sprint version? Or would the phone be locked for international use?
Sprint variant would be locked to sprint only until they unlock it for you. Which prolly requires it being paid off or after a time limit.
I intend on buying from samsung.com, so I would expect that if I were to get the Sprint version, that Sprint unlock the device after 50 days on their network.
I do know that resale value should be higher on the unlocked version, but I figure I would get the device unlocked by Sprint before I would sell it.
Anything else I should know about?
Is there something called an "ISIM" and would I need to get that for the unlocked version?
Thanks!
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If I get a Verizon note 9 can I just pop an Att sim into it and it will work. I know there may be differences between voice and data but Basically is the Verizon NOTE9 GSM unlocked like past Galaxy phones were?
I read a Verizon forum where the Verizon rep said that the note 9 is GSM unlocked but she said AFTER it has been activated on Verizon.
To make matters more confusing she linked to a Verizon page that basically said all Verizon's post pay phones are GSM 4G unlocked (nothing about activation first).
Anyone can help me here? Thinking of getting a cheap one of eBay to use mainly overseas and ATT or wherever else.
Yes. The Verizon models are unlocked. And it's the same exact hardware as the ATT version. My recommendation is to flash either the U1 or the ATT firmware though. Otherwise you'll get the Verizon boot animation and Verizon bloatware.
The ATT firmware will allow you to use WiFi calling and VOLTE.
The unlocked U1 firmware will be clean and have no carrier bloat.
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Yes. The Verizon models are unlocked. And it's the same exact hardware as the ATT version. My recommendation is to flash either the U1 or the ATT firmware though. Otherwise you'll get the Verizon boot animation and Verizon bloatware.
The ATT firmware will allow you to use WiFi calling and VOLTE.
The unlocked U1 firmware will be clean and have no carrier bloat.
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Thanks for your answer. I will have to read up more on the Flashing and U1 firmware!
I see now that on ebay that some say verizon unlocked and some say verizon locked and some of the verizons up for sale dont specify (but in the item detail it says locked or contract)... This makes things more confusing.
I have always bought verizon phones for the unlocked gsm. I did read that verizon was going to stop having them unlocked....this is my main fear.
So what you're saying, is that the verizon note 9 is 100% gsm unlocked? sorry to ask again.
Henhen59 said:
Thanks for your answer. I will have to read up more on the Flashing and U1 firmware!
I see now that on ebay that some say verizon unlocked and some say verizon locked and some of the verizons up for sale dont specify (but in the item detail it says locked or contract)... This makes things more confusing.
I have always bought verizon phones for the unlocked gsm. I did read that verizon was going to stop having them unlocked....this is my main fear.
So what you're saying, is that the verizon note 9 is 100% gsm unlocked? sorry to ask again.
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I'm also looking for that definitive answer as I want to get the Verizon Note 9 for overseas use. I read that it will be unlocked after activation as they were having armed robberies at stores and other inventory locations. I was going to buy the Sprint model but it cost almost $150 to unlock.
Henhen59 said:
Thanks for your answer. I will have to read up more on the Flashing and U1 firmware!
I see now that on ebay that some say verizon unlocked and some say verizon locked and some of the verizons up for sale dont specify (but in the item detail it says locked or contract)... This makes things more confusing.
I have always bought verizon phones for the unlocked gsm. I did read that verizon was going to stop having them unlocked....this is my main fear.
So what you're saying, is that the verizon note 9 is 100% gsm unlocked? sorry to ask again.
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djohne said:
I'm also looking for that definitive answer as I want to get the Verizon Note 9 for overseas use. I read that it will be unlocked after activation as they were having armed robberies at stores and other inventory locations. I was going to buy the Sprint model but it cost almost $150 to unlock.
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Verizon started that with the Pixel 3, after the Note 9. The Note 9's from Verizon are unlocked. Even with the Pixel 3, once it was activated with a Verizon SIM, it was then automatically carrier unlocked. So if you buy a used VZW Note 9 from eBay, its already been activated on Verizon, so no worries.
Just be careful buying off eBay. If its still under contract and the seller stops making payments, it will be blacklisted.
Why buy a Verizon version to use on AT&T?
What is the advantage over getting an AT&T or carrier unlocked version?
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Why buy a Verizon version to use on AT&T?
What is the advantage over getting an AT&T or carrier unlocked version?
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They buy on Verizon because Verizon offers better deals. Then they want to use the devices on other networks. But since Note only has A firmware, not B, it's an annoying process for those who haven't flashed before.
AS to your second question: ATT doesn't allow Wi-Fi Calling nor voice over LTE on unlocked devices. So many ending putting up with their bloat in order to get those features.
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They buy on Verizon because Verizon offers better deals. Then they want to use the devices on other networks. But since Note only has A firmware, not B, it's an annoying process for those who haven't flashed before.
AS to your second question: ATT doesn't allow Wi-Fi Calling nor voice over LTE on unlocked devices. So many ending putting up with their bloat in order to get those features.
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Huh, I would think any Verizon deal would require using Verizon service.
Thanks!
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, I would think any Verizon deal would require using Verizon service.
Thanks!
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Oh, they do require service. But people either don't read or think they've found some way around it.
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Oh, they do require service. But people either don't read or think they've found some way around it.
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oh ha! Hard to outsmart big red.
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oh ha! Hard to outsmart big red.
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It used to be easier. Verizon would often offer buy one get one free on Samsung and LG devices. You had to sign up for new service and put the phones on a payment plan. But the second phone uses to actually be free, not just bill credits. And you could pay off the first one and cancel your service.
I one time bought four Galaxy S7s when they were brand new, started four lines of service with Verizon, then paid off the phones and cancelled the service. Then I sold all four phones and netted about a thousand dollar profit off the deal.
Did the same thing with the LG G4 with Verizon when they offered $600 prepaid gift cards for each phone you bought.
Now Verizon, like all other carriers, lock you in with bill credits.
As they say, all good things must come to an end.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Verizon started that with the Pixel 3, after the Note 9. The Note 9's from Verizon are unlocked. Even with the Pixel 3, once it was activated with a Verizon SIM, it was then automatically carrier unlocked. So if you buy a used VZW Note 9 from eBay, its already been activated on Verizon, so no worries.
Just be careful buying off eBay. If its still under contract and the seller stops making payments, it will be blacklisted.
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I wanted them for overseas use, actually ended up getting a great deal on 2 ATT note 9s, under $500 each n paid $18 to unlock
Verizon note 9 on AT&T
I'm using an unlocked Verizon note 9 512gb 8gb ram on AT&T and amazingly everything works. Wifi calling, video calling, volte. Even went to UbreakIfix and they installed Android 10 onto the phone. When I put the Sim card into the phone it loaded all the AT&T software on the phone and I was good. The great thing about Verizon unlocked phones are that they have the full CDMA and GSM capabilities so you can use them on any carrier. It wasn't a hassle at all to do.